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Ron Madden
08-23-2019, 02:07 PM
Reds
VanMeter LF
Galvis 2B
Suarez 3B
Aquino RF
Barnhart C
Iglesias SS
Dietrich 1B
Senzel CF
DeSclafani P

Pirates
Newman SS
Reynolds LF
Marte CF
Bell 1B
Moran 3B
Osuna RF
Frazier 2B
Stallings C
Keller P

WrongVerb
08-23-2019, 02:22 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ECrKOHYXkAATSIm?format=jpg&name=small

I really wanted Aquino to be The Punisher. I was ready to buy a replica jersey.

cumberlandreds
08-23-2019, 02:30 PM
Good to see Dietrich in there. Hopefully he can hit a HR into the Allegheny and gaze into the night at it.

Chip R
08-23-2019, 02:37 PM
Bell has no chill. He's putting DD in there 1st game and trolling Hurdle. :laugh:

Rolando
08-23-2019, 02:39 PM
VanMeter LF
Galvis 2B
Suarez 3B
Aquino RF
Barnhart C
Iglesias SS
Dietrich 1B
Senzel CF
DeSclafani P
That's an interesting lineup :-)

Ron Madden
08-23-2019, 02:42 PM
The Pittsburgh lineup has been added to the original post

Ron Madden
08-23-2019, 02:48 PM
Bell has no chill. He's putting DD in there 1st game and trolling Hurdle. :laugh:

The way Dietrich has been hitting let's hope Hurdle doesn't get the last laugh.

GADawg
08-23-2019, 02:51 PM
Bell has no chill. He's putting DD in there 1st game and trolling Hurdle. :laugh:

I was thinking the same thing! I don’t want anything to happen tonight....or do I? I definitely won’t be looking away

Ron Madden
08-23-2019, 02:55 PM
For Players Weekend this will be the first MLB event with a league-wide batting helmet. The Rawlings helmets will be decorated in matte black or matte white to further accentuate the uniforms.

They are ugly.

DocRed
08-23-2019, 04:46 PM
Cubs getting pounded...yay!

Kc61
08-23-2019, 05:05 PM
The way Dietrich has been hitting let's hope Hurdle doesn't get the last laugh.

That was pre-layoff. I doubt DD was out a few weeks without working on his approach. Let’s see if he looks better now.

JaxRed
08-23-2019, 05:42 PM
That was pre-layoff. I doubt DD was out a few weeks without working on his approach. Let’s see if he looks better now.

Wow, I thought I was all sunshine and rainbows..... DD hit .182 for Louisville. I'm hoping for the best but not really expectng it.

KeefeCato
08-23-2019, 06:14 PM
Tucker in the 5 hole again. Bell loves him some Tucker.

Kc61
08-23-2019, 06:15 PM
Wow, I thought I was all sunshine and rainbows..... DD hit .182 for Louisville. I'm hoping for the best but not really expectng it.

I think that was 3 games. Yeah, 11 at bats.

KeefeCato
08-23-2019, 06:16 PM
Aquino probably gets drilled first time up for pointing his bat at Hurdles pitcher.

Rantly
08-23-2019, 06:55 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ECrKOHYXkAATSIm?format=jpg&name=small

I really wanted Aquino to be The Punisher. I was ready to buy a replica jersey.
Noticed last weekend they already have a line of Punisher t-shirts at the gift stores.

North
08-23-2019, 07:06 PM
Heh - Yin vs Yang. :p

Big Klu
08-23-2019, 07:09 PM
With the great affection between these two clubs, these two should have been the mascots for this weekend:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DkrFbI8UcAATCeg.jpg

RustyJ
08-23-2019, 07:15 PM
Good thing we made all these fun nicknames no one can read

Big Klu
08-23-2019, 07:19 PM
The Reds wore white caps with the 1902, 1912, 1919, 1935, 1936, and 1961 throwback uniforms, and will wear white caps with the 1995 throwbacks -- and the league didn't have a problem with the pitcher wearing a white cap.

Ron Madden
08-23-2019, 07:22 PM
The Amazing Aquino!!!

North
08-23-2019, 07:22 PM
Well ok.

Big Klu
08-23-2019, 07:28 PM
Aquino is now 212th on the Reds' all-time home run list -- tied with 13 other players:

Ethan Allen
Dann Bilardello
Bob Borkowski
Tony Cuccinello
Lenny Harris
Roberto Kelly
Wayne Krenchicki
Hobie Landrith
Hans Lobert
Denis Menke
Bill Plummer
Johnny Pramesa
Frank Thomas

Ron Madden
08-23-2019, 07:30 PM
The Reds wore white caps with the 1902, 1912, 1919, 1935, 1936, and 1961 throwback uniforms, and will wear white caps with the 1995 throwbacks -- and the league didn't have a problem with the pitcher wearing a white cap.

I was thinking the same thing. And I can't understand why the league won't let the Reds wear red caps the Cubs wore blue caps with these white uniforms this afternoon.

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Nice DP!

Big Klu
08-23-2019, 07:32 PM
Aquino has tied Roberto Kelly for 26th place place among Hispanic players on the Reds' all-time home run list.

1. Tony Perez (Cuba) - 287
2. Eugenio Suarez (Venezuela) - 128
3. Dave Concepcion (Venezuela) - 101
4. Leo Cardenas (Cuba) - 72
5. Edwin Encarnacion (Dom. Rep.) - 71
6. Wily Mo PeŮa (Dom. Rep.) - 54
7. Cesar Geronimo (Dom. Rep.) - 44
8. Felipe Lopez (Puerto Rico) - 41
9. Bo Diaz (Venezuela) - 39
10. Javier Valentin (Puerto Rico) - 34
11. Cesar CedeŮo (Dom. Rep.) - 30
12. Mariano Duncan (Dom. Rep.) - 28
12. Jose Peraza (Venezuela) - 28
14. Jose Guillen (Dom. Rep.) - 27
15. Juan Castro (Mexico) - 25
16. Ramon Hernandez (Venezuela) - 24
17. Eduardo Perez (USA/Puerto Rico) - 23
18. Yasiel Puig (Cuba) - 22
19. Alex Ochoa (USA/Cuba) - 20
20. Luis QuiŮones (Puerto Rico) - 19
20. Benito Santiago (Puerto Rico) - 19
20. D'Angelo Jimenez (Dom. Rep.) - 19
20. Alex Gonzalez (Venezuela) - 19
24. Juan Encarnacion (Dom. Rep.) - 16
25. Miguel Cairo (Venezuela) - 13
26. Roberto Kelly (Panama) - 12
26. Aristides Aquino (Dom. Rep.) - 12
28. Ruben Rivera (Panama) - 10

Big Klu
08-23-2019, 07:34 PM
3-6-yessiree-3!

Big Klu
08-23-2019, 07:38 PM
These are the worst baseball uniforms I have ever seen.

ScotlandRed
08-23-2019, 07:45 PM
These uniforms and helmets are so so bad.

Big Klu
08-23-2019, 07:46 PM
I was thinking the same thing. And I can't understand why the league won't let the Reds wear red caps the Cubs wore blue caps with these white uniforms this afternoon.

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Nice DP!

So the Reds players wanted to wear red caps with this abomination of a uniform, but since it is Players' Weekend, MLB told them no -- they had to wear the white caps.

SomeCallMeTim
08-23-2019, 07:46 PM
These are the worst baseball uniforms I have ever seen.

Looks like the milkmen vs. the Johnny Cash 9.

SomeCallMeTim
08-23-2019, 07:48 PM
Must score runs, I cannot accept defeat against this scum and villany.

mbgrayson
08-23-2019, 07:48 PM
Disco throws a three pitch third inning. Nice.

JaxRed
08-23-2019, 07:49 PM
Looks like the milkmen vs. the Johnny Cash 9.

I thought it was the Will Smith Men in Black

Ron Madden
08-23-2019, 07:49 PM
So the Reds players wanted to wear red caps with this abomination of a uniform, but since it is Players' Weekend, MLB told them no -- they had to wear the white caps.

Yes, according to Jim Day.

Big Klu
08-23-2019, 07:54 PM
Looks like the milkmen vs. the Johnny Cash 9.

The Reds look like Stormtroopers.

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/f/fc/Stormtrooper_Corps.png/revision/latest?cb=20130318061027

SomeCallMeTim
08-23-2019, 07:55 PM
I thought it was the Will Smith Men in Black

Also good...

SomeCallMeTim
08-23-2019, 07:56 PM
The Reds look like Stormtroopers.

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/f/fc/Stormtrooper_Corps.png/revision/latest?cb=20130318061027

These arenít the uniforms youíre looking for....

https://images.app.goo.gl/T1mEkomiqeQtnJQC9

757690
08-23-2019, 08:00 PM
Jim also reporting Aquino wanted “Punisher” as his nickname but the league said no. So he went with PJ, which stands for “Punisher Junior”

Big Klu
08-23-2019, 08:02 PM
Jim also reporting Aquino wanted “Punisher” as his nickname but the league said no. So he went with PJ, which stands for “Punisher Junior”

Why not? Possible trademark violation with Marvel?

https://images.imgbox.com/06/e9/8oqJBRk4_o.jpg

757690
08-23-2019, 08:04 PM
So the Reds players wanted to wear red caps with this abomination of a uniform, but since it is Players' Weekend, MLB told them no -- they had to wear the white caps.

Cubs wore blue hats today. MLB is full of it.

Big Klu
08-23-2019, 08:06 PM
Cubs wore blue hats today. MLB is full of it.

MLB is really playing up the "Spy vs. Spy" dynamic between the Reds and Pirates this weekend.

The Operator
08-23-2019, 08:07 PM
Got him!

Disco works out of the jam. I was a little scared there considering his trouble this year with 2 outs.

Norm Chortleton
08-23-2019, 08:08 PM
Wish we could get this cf camera angle every game. Why the home teams love them some left center field camera, I'll never know

Tom Servo
08-23-2019, 08:08 PM
That was a smart walk by Disco to Moran, much rather face the RH hitter than give anything to Moran. And it works out perfectly.

The Operator
08-23-2019, 08:09 PM
Cubs wore blue hats today. MLB is full of it.

Just goes to show that players weekend is 100% a marketing strategy in the eyes of MLB and not really at all for the players. Which isn't surprising unfortunately.

Ron Madden
08-23-2019, 08:14 PM
Per #Reds
Since his 8/1 promotion, rookie Aquino leads all ML batters in HR (12), RBI (24) and slugging percentage.

gagliano
08-23-2019, 08:17 PM
For Players Weekend this will be the first MLB event with a league-wide batting helmet. The Rawlings helmets will be decorated in matte black or matte white to further accentuate the uniforms.

They are ugly.

what in god's name? i feel like i'm watching "spy v. spy." not watching this one

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For Players Weekend this will be the first MLB event with a league-wide batting helmet. The Rawlings helmets will be decorated in matte black or matte white to further accentuate the uniforms.

They are ugly.
looks like someone tried to paint over the reds uni and didnt add a second coat. hideous. waste of $$

gagliano
08-23-2019, 08:21 PM
For Players Weekend this will be the first MLB event with a league-wide batting helmet. The Rawlings helmets will be decorated in matte black or matte white to further accentuate the uniforms.

They are ugly.

hell, shirts and skins would make more sense

Big Klu
08-23-2019, 08:23 PM
Dietrich should have gotten a white first baseman's mitt.

JaxRed
08-23-2019, 08:24 PM
hell, shirts and skins would make more sense

Derek Dietrich chooses skins...

JaxRed
08-23-2019, 08:27 PM
Galvis singles and gets first hit by non- rookie.

Tom Servo
08-23-2019, 08:28 PM
To echo the announcers, Suarez's strikeouts are becoming a concern

WVRedsFan
08-23-2019, 08:28 PM
Geno may set the record for least pitches taken to strike out.

Big Klu
08-23-2019, 08:29 PM
Surez may set the record for least pitches taken to strike out.

Two?

WVRedsFan
08-23-2019, 08:30 PM
Three in 4AB's

50YrRedsFan
08-23-2019, 08:32 PM
Reds with 4 hits and 1 run through 6 innings off Cy Keller who started the game with over an 8.00 ERA.

WVRedsFan
08-23-2019, 08:33 PM
Reds with 4 hits and 1 run through 6 innings off Cy Keller who started the game with over an 8.00 ERA.Yes. Not a good omen.

Wonderful Monds
08-23-2019, 08:35 PM
Whatís the 45 patch on the Reds jerseys there?

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Wait why is Disco wearing a black hat? I’m so damn confused.

JaxRed
08-23-2019, 08:37 PM
When you know Bell is looking for a reason to pull you, you need to throw strikes.

The Operator
08-23-2019, 08:37 PM
Well this isn't good.

First two runners reach in the 6th

Tadasimha
08-23-2019, 08:38 PM
Cubs wore blue hats today. MLB is full of it.

Rangers have the white uniforms in Chicago but Lance Lynn, their pitcher has the players weekend blackhat on.

I like the white batting helmets

redsrule2500
08-23-2019, 08:38 PM
It looks like the pitchers have to for some reason?!

Wonderful Monds
08-23-2019, 08:39 PM
Rangers have the white uniforms in Chicago but Lance Lynn, their pitcher has the players weekend blackhat on

That’s what Disco is doing in this game. No idea why. This whole thing is so stupid lol

50YrRedsFan
08-23-2019, 08:40 PM
To echo the announcers, Suarez's strikeouts are becoming a concern

Suarez now #2 (148) in K's in MLB

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These white uni's make it feel like we're at a polo match.

redsrule2500
08-23-2019, 08:41 PM
That’s what Disco is doing in this game. No idea why. This whole thing is so stupid lol
All pitchers have black hats. Not sure why.

sdm24
08-23-2019, 08:41 PM
They talked about it before the game. They said MLB was making him wear a black hat because they thought batters might lose the ball because of his hat.
I watched the cub game earlier today and I am pretty sure that Lester had a white hat but I could be wrong.

The Operator
08-23-2019, 08:41 PM
Looooong fly ball from kosh bell asvances both runners

1 out

Tadasimha
08-23-2019, 08:42 PM
It looks like the pitchers have to for some reason?!

Ah, maybe they're worried about the ball being hidden from the batter, blending in with the hat?

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They talked about it before the game. They said MLB was making him wear a black hat because they thought batters might lose the ball because of his hat.
I watched the cub game earlier today and I am pretty sure that Lester had a white hat but I could be wrong.

He had the regular blue cub hat

Ironman92
08-23-2019, 08:42 PM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190824/6dd54a68a84a6f79a04da4ed9a633b19.jpg

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The Operator
08-23-2019, 08:43 PM
Ground ball ties the game

1-1

2 outs

Big Klu
08-23-2019, 08:43 PM
All pitchers have black hats. Not sure why.

Because they are bad guys.

RR1971
08-23-2019, 08:44 PM
The 6th inning has just killed us this year. I dread it every game.

Wonderful Monds
08-23-2019, 08:44 PM
They talked about it before the game. They said MLB was making him wear a black hat because they thought batters might lose the ball because of his hat.
I watched the cub game earlier today and I am pretty sure that Lester had a white hat but I could be wrong.

Huh, that makes sense I guess in context. But only underscores how stupid these unis are in the first place.

The Operator
08-23-2019, 08:45 PM
Inning over but the Hurdle turdles tie it up

1-1

sdm24
08-23-2019, 08:46 PM
They also said the reds wanted to wear the same hats so they wanted to all wear red hats and MLB said NO!

adkindo
08-23-2019, 08:46 PM
garbage hit by Marte is what caused the problem

Tadasimha
08-23-2019, 08:46 PM
All right, that could have gone a lot worse. Get a few more, guys!

Ron Madden
08-23-2019, 08:47 PM
They talked about it before the game. They said MLB was making him wear a black hat because they thought batters might lose the ball because of his hat.
I watched the cub game earlier today and I am pretty sure that Lester had a white hat but I could be wrong.

I watched the game today, all the Cubs wore their blue hats

Tadasimha
08-23-2019, 08:48 PM
Suarez now #2 (148) in K's in MLB

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These white uni's make it feel like we're at a polo match.

It's cricket, ol' chap! We're on the 3rd Test! Cheers!

50YrRedsFan
08-23-2019, 08:50 PM
It's cricket, ol' chap! We're on the 3rd Test! Cheers!

Cricket, grasshopper, or whatever. :laugh:

adkindo
08-23-2019, 08:50 PM
Disco may snag a win after all

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why are we pulling Disco after 80 pitches?

JaxRed
08-23-2019, 08:53 PM
I would sub out Ervin for DD here

davereds24
08-23-2019, 08:55 PM
Should have sent Tucker on that single and hoped the LF would throw the ball in the dugout.

JaxRed
08-23-2019, 08:57 PM
Not yanking DD there was bad managing

adkindo
08-23-2019, 08:57 PM
Dietrich and Senzel should be embarrassed

50YrRedsFan
08-23-2019, 08:58 PM
Disco may snag a win after all

You might have spoken too soon


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why are we pulling Disco after 80 pitches?

Bell's way or the highway.

Big Klu
08-23-2019, 08:58 PM
Not yanking DD there was bad managing

Why? The Pirates brought in another right-handed pitcher. Who were you replacing him with?

757690
08-23-2019, 08:58 PM
Can any remember the last base hit Dietrich got?

RR1971
08-23-2019, 08:58 PM
Runner on third with no outs and two Ks. Thatís just pitiful and has been an issue all year. To make it worse the Pirates executed it last inning.

50YrRedsFan
08-23-2019, 08:59 PM
Can any remember the last base hit Dietrich got?

I think it was March 29

davereds24
08-23-2019, 08:59 PM
I put those types of ABs on Turner Ward. How do they not have an approach to make contact and go the other way.

The Operator
08-23-2019, 09:00 PM
Well that was one hell of a wasted opportunity.

Damn

adkindo
08-23-2019, 09:00 PM
he had no chance....could tell when he stepped in the box

RR1971
08-23-2019, 09:00 PM
That was awful.

The Operator
08-23-2019, 09:01 PM
Aquino and Van Meter are both holding their own but O'Grady has looked pretty overmatched

adkindo
08-23-2019, 09:01 PM
who else did we have on the bench to pinch hit? I would send Lorenzen up there before O'Grady

WVRedsFan
08-23-2019, 09:01 PM
Why in the name of all that's holy would you pinch O'Grady, who is batting.091 in that situation?

mamell
08-23-2019, 09:01 PM
Turrible turrible turrible.. Jeeez Louise..

50YrRedsFan
08-23-2019, 09:02 PM
That was a tutorial on how not to get a runner in from 3rd. Embarrassing to say the least.

Redeye fly
08-23-2019, 09:03 PM
Sometimes you can only laugh.

RR1971
08-23-2019, 09:03 PM
People can talk about all our one run losses and bad luck but it isn’t bad luck. It’s a lack of execution in those types of situations.

757690
08-23-2019, 09:03 PM
I feel like I’m watching a baseball game being played on an Atari arcade in 1988.

mamell
08-23-2019, 09:03 PM
I'm ok letting O'Grady hit.. He did the exact same thing the two previous batters did. He won't hit .083 forever..

The Operator
08-23-2019, 09:04 PM
Oh Jesus Geno

Rolando
08-23-2019, 09:04 PM
Nick senzel is becoming a bad hitter

Ironman92
08-23-2019, 09:04 PM
Embarrassing.

Ridiculous

Senzel looks like a lost puppy


Ervin must have broken off a wedding with a Bell daughter or something

Dietrich is a great dude....will he ever get another hit?

Sorry Disco

Tadasimha
08-23-2019, 09:05 PM
I put those types of ABs on Turner Ward. How do they not have an approach to make contact and go the other way.

I would rather they bring back JR House than Ward next year

adkindo
08-23-2019, 09:05 PM
I'm ok letting O'Grady hit.. He did the exact same thing the two previous batters did. He won't hit .083 forever..

no, he will probably be around .075 after his next at bat

RR1971
08-23-2019, 09:06 PM
Did he come off the bag? I just caught the end of the replay.

Big Klu
08-23-2019, 09:07 PM
Barnhart should have all-white catching gear.

mamell
08-23-2019, 09:07 PM
Slid right off the base and not challenged.. They deserve to lose this one.

Wonderful Monds
08-23-2019, 09:07 PM
Hate to be a kneejerk guy, but after a good start, Senzel hasn’t exactly had the most inspiring rookie season.

mamell
08-23-2019, 09:08 PM
Indeed he did and Iglesias or Galvis knew it and yet not challenged. :angry:...meant to quote you there RR

Ironman92
08-23-2019, 09:08 PM
Suarez since that lead off HR a few games ago feels like Edwin Encarnacion during his aloof and hard to watch spells

mamell
08-23-2019, 09:08 PM
Did he come off the bag? I just caught the end of the replay.

Indeed he did and Iglesias or Galvis knew it and yet not challenged.

RR1971
08-23-2019, 09:09 PM
He needs more power. I’m not down on him yet. Winker is the one who I’ve about given up on.

The Operator
08-23-2019, 09:09 PM
Melky Roids Cabrera pinch hits

RR1971
08-23-2019, 09:10 PM
Indeed he did and Iglesias or Galvis knew it and yet not challenged.

Looked obvious to me but I caught it out of the corner of my eye so I thought I may have missed something

Wonderful Monds
08-23-2019, 09:10 PM
He needs more power. I’m not down on him yet. Winker is the one who I’ve about given up on.

Winker has an .830 OPS right now

adkindo
08-23-2019, 09:12 PM
I know it is a little "get off my lawn"....but it aggravates me to see Geno over there goofing off with Frazier after the inexcusable error he just made

RR1971
08-23-2019, 09:12 PM
He is a platoon player that can’t hit LH pitching. He was supposed to be the future of the franchise. That’s disappointing.

The Operator
08-23-2019, 09:12 PM
Hell of a job by Bob to work around Geno's error

Sure could use some offense

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He is a platoon player that can’t hit LH pitching. He was supposed to be the future of the franchise. That’s disappointing.

Jesse Winker has never once been billed as the future of this franchise

Mutaman
08-23-2019, 09:13 PM
If only we would get rid of Turner Ward (whoever he is) I believe everything would be all right.

Big Klu
08-23-2019, 09:13 PM
Stephenson says "I got this," and picks up his teammates. Good job.

ScotlandRed
08-23-2019, 09:14 PM
Bob has looked good recently

Rolando
08-23-2019, 09:14 PM
I know it is a little "get off my lawn"....but it aggravates me to see Geno over there goofing off with Frazier after the inexcusable error he just made
I agree and I'm not usually like that but when you drop a ball a six-year-old could catch then you shouldn't be laughing

RR1971
08-23-2019, 09:15 PM
Hell of a job by Bob to work around Geno's error

Sure could use some offense

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Jesse Winker has never once been billed as the future of this franchise

He was the guy everybody was waiting on. Top 30 MLb prospect. Three years later he’s a platoon player. Those are facts.

The Operator
08-23-2019, 09:15 PM
I'd like to see a 600 for homer off Kela this inning.

Screw him

Ironman92
08-23-2019, 09:17 PM
Sucking for two months > a good OPS for the season

Rolando
08-23-2019, 09:17 PM
He was the guy everybody was waiting on. Top 30 MLb prospect. Three years later he’s a platoon player. Those are facts.

What in the world could Winker have done wrong tonight?

Redeye fly
08-23-2019, 09:17 PM
I don't like that kind of thing either but when it's the batter who hit it and the fielder who should have caught it I can understand them laughing a little as both were probably wondering what the odds were of something like that happening.It's a game in late August between one team hoping things go a bit better next year while holding some faint hope of something happening this year and the other team probably wondering who's managing them next year.

The Operator
08-23-2019, 09:17 PM
He was the guy everybody was waiting on. Top 30 MLb prospect. Three years later he’s a platoon player. Those are facts.

No, he wasn't. People have been dumping on him his entire way through the minor leagues.


He's in his second full year and Bell barely gives him a chance to hit against lefties. Declaring him s platoon player already as super premature.

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Come on Geno make up for that error in a big way

RR1971
08-23-2019, 09:18 PM
What in the world could Winker have done wrong tonight?
Maybe you should go back and read the post.

The Operator
08-23-2019, 09:19 PM
Lol Geno calls a late timeout

I hate that usually but against Kela I'm okay with it

RR1971
08-23-2019, 09:20 PM
No, he wasn't. People have been dumping on him his entire way through the minor leagues.


He's in his second full year and Bell barely gives him a chance to hit against lefties. Declaring him s platoon player already as super premature.

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Come on Geno make up for that error in a big way
He was the top player in the franchise and a top 30 prospect. There were expectations. The Reds have made him a platoon player so if you want to argue give them a call.

The Operator
08-23-2019, 09:21 PM
Geno with the sombrero


Man he's scuffling right now

adkindo
08-23-2019, 09:21 PM
is Geno high or something?

The Operator
08-23-2019, 09:22 PM
He was the top player in the franchise and a top 30 prospect. There were expectations. The Reds have made him a platoon player so if you want to argue give them a call.

I could be way wrong here but I don't remember Jesse Winker ever making a top 30 prospect list in MLB.


Could you be referring to The Reds top 30 list? Cause that's way different.

Tony Cloninger
08-23-2019, 09:22 PM
Lack of patience continues to amaze and delight me. Please look at your own Reds history for hitters who have struggled or looked to be unable to amount to anything. Let alone MLB history for just the last 40 years.

mamell
08-23-2019, 09:23 PM
Suarez is dead in the water. I know a lot of people love him, but the Reds could do better. I could see it if he hit 45 HRs, but he hasn't hit enough to make up for these endless strikeouts. He's not even close right now.

RR1971
08-23-2019, 09:24 PM
I could be way wrong here but I don't remember Jesse Winker ever making a top 30 prospect list in MLB.


Could you be referring to The Reds top 30 list? Cause that's way different.
There’s a thing called google.

The Operator
08-23-2019, 09:24 PM
Suarez is dead in the water. I know a lot of people love him, but the Reds could do better. I could see it if he hit 45 HRs, but he hasn't hit enough to make up for these endless strikeouts. He's not even close right now.
He's on pace for 40 homers and 100 RBI


He's ina slump. He'll be okayz

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Aquino!!!

2-1 Reds!!!!


Suck it, Kela!!

adkindo
08-23-2019, 09:25 PM
Aquino is just a stud

Tadasimha
08-23-2019, 09:26 PM
Aquino Bambino!

adkindo
08-23-2019, 09:26 PM
Aquino needs a triple!

mamell
08-23-2019, 09:27 PM
Well, I'll be darned.. Didn't expect that..

The Operator
08-23-2019, 09:27 PM
There’s a thing called google.

Couldn't care less, you really aren't worth the effort.


Either way, people on this very site have been crapping on Winker since long before he ever even reach the big leagues. Was he viewed as a *part* of the future? Sure. But I've never read anyone on here referring to him as *the* future or as any kind of savior.


I know this is all a part of your schtick though, so we can just let it go.

Kingspoint
08-23-2019, 09:28 PM
Just returning from vacationing all week in Colorado and this is pretty nice to get back to.

mamell
08-23-2019, 09:28 PM
He's on pace for 40 homers and 100 RBI


He's ina slump. He'll be okayz

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Ehhh..probably right, but it's frustrating.

North
08-23-2019, 09:28 PM
Tuck...everlasting.

malcontent
08-23-2019, 09:29 PM
Whoever thought we'd be intently watching each Aristedes Aquino plate appearance in 2019?

RR1971
08-23-2019, 09:29 PM
Couldn't care less, you really aren't worth the effort.


Either way, people on this very site have been crapping on Winker since long before he ever even reach the big leagues. Was he viewed as a *part* of the future? Sure. But I've never read anyone on here referring to him as *the* future or as any kind of savior.


I know this is all a part of your schtick though, so we can just let it go.

You’re just wrong. He was a top 30 prospect and the reds consider him as a platoon player.

The Operator
08-23-2019, 09:30 PM
Ehhh..probably right, but it's frustrating.

That's for sure. He'll bounce back though.

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You’re just wrong. He was a top 30 prospect and the reds consider him as a platoon player.

Then maybe that's more of an indictment on the people making the prospect lists than it is Jesse Winker.


I don't know why I keep feeding you, lol.

The Operator
08-23-2019, 09:32 PM
Whoever thought we'd be intently watching each Aristedes Aquino plate appearance in 2019?

Things like that are what I love about baseball.


The whole "out of nowhere" aspect can be a lot of fun.

mamell
08-23-2019, 09:33 PM
Barny trying to run? That's scary..

adkindo
08-23-2019, 09:33 PM
is Bob Steve coming back out for 8th?

Wonderful Monds
08-23-2019, 09:33 PM
He was the guy everybody was waiting on. Top 30 MLb prospect. Three years later heís a platoon player. Those are facts.

He was never a top 30 prospect. I think he was at most in the 90s.

Rolando
08-23-2019, 09:34 PM
He was never a top 30 prospect. I think he was at most in the 90s.

That doesn't fit the narrative :-)

The Operator
08-23-2019, 09:35 PM
He was never a top 30 prospect. I think he was at most in the 90s.

That's what I'm remembering too.

I posed the question but I was told I had to do the research and he's not worth that kind of effort.


I'd be shocked if he's not remembering Winker being a Reds top 30 prospect, not an MLB top 30 guy.

RR1971
08-23-2019, 09:35 PM
That's for sure. He'll bounce back though.

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I posted facts and you’re just posting what this board said five years ago. He was a top 30 prospect ahead of Gleyber Torres, Ozzie Albies, Blake Snell, Tim Anderson and many others.


Then maybe that's more of an indictment on the people making the prospect lists than it is Jesse Winker.


I don't know why I keep feeding you, lol.

mamell
08-23-2019, 09:35 PM
Kind of glad Pirates took Feliz out of the game after K'ing the side like they were all 9 year olds up to bat..

RR1971
08-23-2019, 09:36 PM
That's what I'm remembering too.

I posed the question but I was told I had to do the research and he's not worth that kind of effort.


I'd be shocked if he's not remembering Winker being a Reds top 30 prospect, not an MLB top 30 guy.

The Operator
08-23-2019, 09:36 PM
That doesn't fit the narrative :-)

That's really what it boils down to.

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Hell of a play by Iglesias!

2 down

Wonderful Monds
08-23-2019, 09:37 PM
That's what I'm remembering too.

I posed the question but I was told I had to do the research and he's not worth that kind of effort.


I'd be shocked if he's not remembering Winker being a Reds top 30 prospect, not an MLB top 30 guy.

Same. I like Jesse as a player, but he was never viewed as a franchise savior. If anyone had him ranked top 30, they were the outlier, he was never a consensus anything more than like lower top 100 guy.

Tadasimha
08-23-2019, 09:37 PM
Be like that some more, Amir

Big Klu
08-23-2019, 09:37 PM
Good dig by Dietrich.

RR1971
08-23-2019, 09:37 PM
I just googled it. Pretty easy to find on MLb.com. He was 27 In 2015. You just don’t want to look because you’re wrong.

mamell
08-23-2019, 09:37 PM
Apparently Garrett's forgotten where the strike zone is...Of course he gets an out as I type this..

adkindo
08-23-2019, 09:38 PM
That's what I'm remembering too.

I posed the question but I was told I had to do the research and he's not worth that kind of effort.


I'd be shocked if he's not remembering Winker being a Reds top 30 prospect, not an MLB top 30 guy.

he was #27 in MLB in 2015

http://m.mlb.com/prospects/2015?list=prospects

Tony Cloninger
08-23-2019, 09:39 PM
Winker May have been close to that prior to his numerous injuries in the minors. But he was always lacking the defense side of his game. Let alone speed. To be a Top 30. Now Kajagoogoo. That’s Top 30 material right there.

The Operator
08-23-2019, 09:40 PM
Hell of a job by Garrett!


Mlove seeig him now down their hitters while Kela is in line for the loss.

North
08-23-2019, 09:40 PM
No essays from the announcing team tonight. :D

Wonderful Monds
08-23-2019, 09:40 PM
I just googled it. Pretty easy to find on MLb.com. He was 27 In 2015. You just don’t want to look because you’re wrong.

Ok, so one list by a site that’s pretty bad at ranking prospects had him ranked that high. That still doesn’t challenge the notion that he wasn’t ever a consensus top 30 guy.

Which - that might have even been a good ranking for him, because a guy hitting .830 in his second full season is pretty good all things considered.

RR1971
08-23-2019, 09:41 PM
he was #27 in MLB in 2015

http://m.mlb.com/prospects/2015?list=prospects
These people just don’t want facts. He was a top 30 guy and the broadcast team talked him up for years. He was on the reds caravan when he was in single A.

Wonderful Monds
08-23-2019, 09:42 PM
These people just don’t want facts. He was a top 30 guy and the broadcast team talked him up for years. He was on the reds caravan when he was in single A.

ah well damn if the Reds broadcast geniuses had him pegged as the future of the organization who am I to dispute them

The Operator
08-23-2019, 09:42 PM
he was #27 in MLB in 2015

http://m.mlb.com/prospects/2015?list=prospects

Jose Peraza being #24 on that list tells me all I need to know about it.


I still maintain that no knowledgeable Reds fans were crossing him as any sort of savior. People have been bagging on the guy around here for years.

adkindo
08-23-2019, 09:42 PM
These people just don’t want facts. He was a top 30 guy and the broadcast team talked him up for years. He was on the reds caravan when he was in single A.

I do not know anything about how he was viewed on RZ, but I recall a few years ago when I was getting back into watching the Reds on a daily basis......many of my friends that are fans of other teams mentioned him often.

RR1971
08-23-2019, 09:43 PM
Ok, so one list by a site that’s pretty bad at ranking prospects had him ranked that high. That still doesn’t challenge the notion that he wasn’t ever a consensus top 30 guy.

Which - that might have even been a good ranking for him, because a guy hitting .830 in his second full season is pretty good all things considered.

His OPs is 443 vs LH pitching.

The Operator
08-23-2019, 09:43 PM
These people just don’t want facts. He was a top 30 guy and the broadcast team talked him up for years. He was on the reds caravan when he was in single A.

That's 1 list, and it had Jose Peraza even further ahead of him.


You're neat.

Wonderful Monds
08-23-2019, 09:44 PM
His OPs is 443 vs LH pitching.

Don’t care. It’s 50 PA’s and they never give him a chance to hit against them.

adkindo
08-23-2019, 09:44 PM
damnit....thought Ervin got that

Rolando
08-23-2019, 09:44 PM
These people just don’t want facts. He was a top 30 guy and the broadcast team talked him up for years. He was on the reds caravan when he was in single A.

What the flip does this have to do with the game being played right now

ScotlandRed
08-23-2019, 09:44 PM
Iím pretty sure Stephenson and Winker were consensus top 40/50 guys at one point.

The Operator
08-23-2019, 09:45 PM
Donít care. Itís 50 PAís and they never give him a chance to hit against them.

They're basically turning it into a self fulfilling prophecy.

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What the flip does this have to do with the game being played right now

Literally nothing.


But that's how this guy operates. If The Reds aren't losing and he doesn't have the ability to troll in that manner, he'll find something else like this.

RR1971
08-23-2019, 09:47 PM
Jose Peraza being #24 on that list tells me all I need to know about it.


I still maintain that no knowledgeable Reds fans were crossing him as any sort of savior. People have been bagging on the guy around here for years.
It doesn’t matter who was on the list and I’ve never said the lists were good. My post said he was billed as a franchise player and the reds have decided he’s a platoon player. My post was also in response to a post about someone being disappointed in Senzel. I understand my ID says Alabama and Ohio State sucks and Alabama is the GOAT but come on, I’m right on this one.

The Operator
08-23-2019, 09:48 PM
Please be good Raisel tonight


Pleeeeaaassseee be good Raisel

adkindo
08-23-2019, 09:48 PM
time for Oliver to bring the heat

Roy Tucker
08-23-2019, 09:48 PM
Feel like I’m watching a black and white TV.

Wonderful Monds
08-23-2019, 09:48 PM
I’m pretty sure Stephenson and Winker were consensus top 40/50 guys at one point.

This is closer to being right than calling him a “top 30” guy. BA and BP had him ranked 47 and 44 in 2015 and then 51 and 50 in 2016. He then dropped down to 98/91 after that. And he’s now playing pretty much in line with those projections.

RR1971
08-23-2019, 09:49 PM
Donít care. Itís 50 PAís and they never give him a chance to hit against them.

And that what professional baseball people who made that decision.

Rolando
08-23-2019, 09:49 PM
It doesn’t matter who was on the list and I’ve never said the lists were good. My post said he was billed as a franchise player and the reds have decided he’s a platoon player. My post was also in response to a post about someone being disappointed in Senzel. I understand my ID says Alabama and Ohio State sucks and Alabama is the GOAT but come on, I’m right on this one.
College football sucks so I could care less

adkindo
08-23-2019, 09:52 PM
College football sucks so I could care less

it is going to be hard to not view your posts with skepticism after that statement

The Operator
08-23-2019, 09:52 PM
It doesn’t matter who was on the list and I’ve never said the lists were good. My post said he was billed as a franchise player and the reds have decided he’s a platoon player. My post was also in response to a post about someone being disappointed in Senzel. I understand my ID says Alabama and Ohio State sucks and Alabama is the GOAT but come on, I’m right on this one.

Being on a prospect list and being viewed as a franchise player are two very different things.


But I digress, there's a game going on.

JaxRed
08-23-2019, 09:52 PM
Why? The Pirates brought in another right-handed pitcher. Who were you replacing him with?

Was monitoring game on phone. Just assumed they brought in a lefty. Nevermind.......

Roy Tucker
08-23-2019, 09:52 PM
Iglesias gives up a lot of 0-2 hits.

The Operator
08-23-2019, 09:52 PM
Leadoff single to Colin Moran



Come on Iggy

RR1971
08-23-2019, 09:52 PM
ah well damn if the Reds broadcast geniuses had him pegged as the future of the organization who am I to dispute them

It was Mlb.com and the broadcast team doesnít send people out on the caravan. He was billed as a top player. Heíll be was a first round pick.

The Operator
08-23-2019, 09:53 PM
And another hit. Crap.

adkindo
08-23-2019, 09:53 PM
need a couple K's now

Tom Servo
08-23-2019, 09:53 PM
It was Mlb.com and the broadcast team doesn’t send people out on the caravan. He was billed as a top player. He’ll be was a first round pick.
I used to think you had a little more integrity than Alabama but you’re really as dumb of a troll as he is.

Tadasimha
08-23-2019, 09:54 PM
Cmon, Raisel - shut them down!

gagliano
08-23-2019, 09:54 PM
Thatís what Disco is doing in this game. No idea why. This whole thing is so stupid lol

the rule is: pitcher wears black hat on friday during waning moon phase. pitcher wears white hat M-th unless left handed, in which they have their choice. if pitcher chooses white hat, opposing manager has option to use "paint it black" for all walkup music. unless it's cloudy.

RR1971
08-23-2019, 09:55 PM
Being on a prospect list and being viewed as a franchise player are two very different things.


But I digress, there's a game going on.
In other words youíre wrong but now you want to watch the game.

Redsfan6272
08-23-2019, 09:56 PM
We have to lead tge leauge at giving up 0-2 hits!!!. Why not call the next pitch in the dirt or out of the strike zone??

gagliano
08-23-2019, 09:56 PM
They talked about it before the game. They said MLB was making him wear a black hat because they thought batters might lose the ball because of his hat.
I watched the cub game earlier today and I am pretty sure that Lester had a white hat but I could be wrong.

it didnt do him any good

The Operator
08-23-2019, 09:56 PM
Jesus H


Third batter in a row reaches. Tie game.


Bad Raisel in the house

Tom Servo
08-23-2019, 09:56 PM
This sucks man

adkindo
08-23-2019, 09:56 PM
bring in MiLo

Redsfan6272
08-23-2019, 09:56 PM
Hamilton catches that

PuffyPig
08-23-2019, 09:56 PM
Jesus H


Third batter in a row reaches. Tie game.


Bad Raisel in the house

Really zero well hit balls though.


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Roy Tucker
08-23-2019, 09:57 PM
Ugh. Pirates luckier than ****.

Tadasimha
08-23-2019, 09:57 PM
Dang it!

757690
08-23-2019, 09:57 PM
Bad Raisel was due.

The Operator
08-23-2019, 09:57 PM
I guess the guys didn't get Iglesias' memo that in addition to tie games, he also doesn't do 1 run leads.

Need 2-3 runs.

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Really zero well hit balls though.


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Ironman92
08-23-2019, 09:58 PM
To not striking out...

Redsfan6272
08-23-2019, 09:58 PM
Watch the bunt!!!

The Operator
08-23-2019, 09:58 PM
God I hate Clint Hurdle's smirky face.

Jomama
08-23-2019, 09:59 PM
More bad luck for the Reds.

The Operator
08-23-2019, 10:00 PM
Welp


Pirates walk it off


That sucked. That really sucked.


Another loss for Iglesias

Powel Crosley
08-23-2019, 10:00 PM
Was almost expecting this. Watch us get swept.

Roy Tucker
08-23-2019, 10:00 PM
Well that blows.

North
08-23-2019, 10:00 PM
Iggy...

Oh well there is tomorrow.

Redsfan6272
08-23-2019, 10:00 PM
Yep shows the Reds are not yet close to being a contending team. Cant put away bad teams and offense is inconsistent

Tom Servo
08-23-2019, 10:01 PM
More bad luck for the Reds.
Thanks for dropping in man, I’m sure this made your night.

The Operator
08-23-2019, 10:01 PM
The only out recorded by Iglesias was on a sacrifice bunt

50YrRedsFan
08-23-2019, 10:01 PM
Just a very poor team. Clean house (except for a very few) and try again.

adkindo
08-23-2019, 10:02 PM
if there was ever one we did not deserve to win....this would be it.....should have hung 5-7 runs on them tonight

SomeCallMeTim
08-23-2019, 10:03 PM
9 losses by our closer. 9.

adkindo
08-23-2019, 10:03 PM
Just a very poor team. Clean house (except for a very few) and try again.

there is a near 0% chance they will be cleaning house :confused:

Rolando
08-23-2019, 10:03 PM
Another horribly managed game

50YrRedsFan
08-23-2019, 10:04 PM
9 losses by our closer. 9.

Hoover was 1-10 a few years ago. Maybe Raisel can eclipse that mark.

WVRedsFan
08-23-2019, 10:05 PM
This is what I feared. Told the wife that the Pirates would come out trying to prove a point and our guys would be cocky. I also said they had to go into the night with at least a 3-run lead. They didn't and thus the result. The Reds didn't have the killer attitude tonight. Suarez flailing away. Everyone was killings this team and we fell flat. Hope they wake up tomorrow.

Tom Servo
08-23-2019, 10:05 PM
Another horribly managed game
The strikeouts in scoring positions and Iglesias blowing a save don’t strike me as managerial issues but alright

Wheelhouse
08-23-2019, 10:06 PM
The game was lost in the seventh with neither Dietrich, Senzel or O'Grady able to put the bat on the ball. It was like a bad inning on a video game. Also, Geno needs a break. Flat offense.

Alabama
08-23-2019, 10:06 PM
Bunch of losers

M2
08-23-2019, 10:07 PM
We will no longer speak of this game. It never happened.

The Operator
08-23-2019, 10:07 PM
Pretty alarming when your closer is approaching 10 losses.

Some of it is on the offense early making every game excruciatingly close and leaving no margin for error, but still. He's just been at the center of so many losin games.

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Bunch of losers

Oh good, we got Alabama's take on the game.

Norm Chortleton
08-23-2019, 10:08 PM
9 losses by our closer. 9.7 more to tie Gene Garber

Rolando
08-23-2019, 10:10 PM
The strikeouts in scoring positions and Iglesias blowing a save don’t strike me as managerial issues but alright

Aren't there things he could have done differently

WVRedsFan
08-23-2019, 10:11 PM
Bunch of losers

Hardly. The Reds have done well compared to the previous 5 years. A team just short of .500? Maybe, but no way they are a bunchof losers.

The Operator
08-23-2019, 10:11 PM
Hoover was 1-10 a few years ago. Maybe Raisel can eclipse that mark.

At least they didn't sign Hoover to a 3-year contract extension for over 20 million the year before he put that line up.



They've gotta fix the offense and bullpen this winter.

Tony Cloninger
08-23-2019, 10:12 PM
This is the managers fault?

Ron Madden
08-23-2019, 10:13 PM
Box Score

https://www.mlb.com/gameday/reds-vs-pirates/2019/08/23/566243#game_state=final,lock_state=final,game_tab= box,game=566243

DocRed
08-23-2019, 10:13 PM
Start playing for draft picks

texasdave
08-23-2019, 10:14 PM
The Reds have scored 95 runs in the month of August, and the Punisher has been responsible for 30 of them. :eek:

DocRed
08-23-2019, 10:14 PM
Putrid offense

Rolando
08-23-2019, 10:14 PM
This is the managers fault?
Yes it is you can't keep losing one run games and letting the Clint hurdle own you

Tony Cloninger
08-23-2019, 10:17 PM
Hardly. The Reds have done well compared to the previous 5 years. A team just short of .500? Maybe, but no way they are a bunchof losers.


Alabama has spoken! Dare not say nay on what Alabama states.

WVRedsFan
08-23-2019, 10:19 PM
This is the managers fault?

No. This was a case of inspiration vs. making bad decisions by the offense. Some of the pitches Senzel and Suarez swung at were totally out of the zone. Keller's ERA now 7.24. Everyone was beating him to death.

North
08-23-2019, 10:23 PM
The strikeouts in scoring positions and Iglesias blowing a save donít strike me as managerial issues but alright

Yes, but pinch hitting with BOG at an important time was a head-scratcher.