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Ironman92
09-01-2019, 12:52 PM
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Red Raindog
09-01-2019, 12:54 PM
I donít sense an element of excitement built for the games today


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North
09-01-2019, 12:59 PM
I don’t sense an element of excitement built for the games today


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:D

Dat dude BP
09-01-2019, 01:01 PM
Ready to go for today’s huge embarrassing failure! Let’s hope Iglesias gets a lot of practice today!

North
09-01-2019, 01:11 PM
Good hit, Geno.

JohnnyRed
09-01-2019, 01:13 PM
Gonna be a good baseball game!

Dat dude BP
09-01-2019, 01:23 PM
Mahle looked good in the first, hopefully we can score some runs

Rolando
09-01-2019, 01:26 PM
Mahle looked good in the first, hopefully we can score some runs

North
09-01-2019, 01:26 PM
No runs in the first so there is hope.

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There's a highlight-reel catch

Rolando
09-01-2019, 01:31 PM
Is the game on Fox sports Ohio? Right now all I get is some BMX crap

Dat dude BP
09-01-2019, 01:31 PM
Of course they both made sports center catches. I hate all things Pittsburgh, but I really hate St. Louis every damn year they beat us. I’m fed up with losing to them

North
09-01-2019, 01:44 PM
Is the game on Fox sports Ohio? Right now all I get is some BMX crap

Perhaps you are tuned to Fox FS Ohio Alt, not Fox Sports Ohio (FS1)?

Dat dude BP
09-01-2019, 01:44 PM
Another brutal play. Nice job mahle

Ironman92
09-01-2019, 01:46 PM
Itís Mahleís fault but I hate that set up! I do not see how it adds any range or increases chance for outs. The long underhand toss and pitcher going full from mound against a fast runner....it is not nearly as routine as the first baseman playing normal and covering first.

No way do I believe it has been a positive outcome set up when itís been done.

adkindo
09-01-2019, 01:57 PM
Joey strikes out twice, and then hits a sac fly RBI all in one bat

North
09-01-2019, 01:58 PM
#7 wham!

adkindo
09-01-2019, 01:58 PM
Geno #40!

Big Klu
09-01-2019, 02:00 PM
Congratulations to Eugenio Suarez, who has passed Dan Driessen for 19th place on the Reds' all-time home run list.


Updated Reds HR list (players in italics are active):

Reds 100-Home Run Club
1. Johnny Bench - 389
2. Frank Robinson - 324
3. Tony Perez - 287
4. Joey Votto - 282
5. Adam Dunn - 270
6. Ted Kluszewski - 251
7. George Foster - 244
8. Jay Bruce - 233
9. Ken Griffey, Jr. - 210
10. Eric Davis - 203
11. Barry Larkin - 198
12. Brandon Phillips - 191
13. Vada Pinson - 186
14. Wally Post - 172
15. Gus Bell - 160
16. Joe Morgan - 152
16. Pete Rose - 152
18. Lee May - 147
19. Eugenio Suarez - 134
20. Dan Driessen - 133
21. Reggie Sanders - 125
22. Ernie Lombardi - 120
23. Sean Casey - 118
24. Frank McCormick - 110
25. Todd Frazier - 108
26. Dave Parker - 107
27. Chris Sabo - 104
28. Dave Concepcion - 101

adkindo
09-01-2019, 02:01 PM
Geno is only 1 behind Yelich and 2 behind Bellinger and Alonso for the NL lead

Dat dude BP
09-01-2019, 02:03 PM
Geno is such a beast. We need to get him some help bad

adkindo
09-01-2019, 02:05 PM
Andrťs Galarraga....have not heard that name in as minute

kaldaniels
09-01-2019, 02:08 PM
Geno is only 1 behind Yelich and 2 behind Bellinger and Alonso for the NL lead

Hell let’s throw in 3 behind Trout for the MLB lead while we are at it...

North
09-01-2019, 02:13 PM
Hey hey you you get off of my mound! :D

Big Klu
09-01-2019, 02:15 PM
Suarez becomes the ninth player in Reds history to hit 40 HR's in a season:

Ted Kluszewski (40 in 1953, 49 in 1954, 47 in 1955)
Wally Post (40 in 1955)
Johnny Bench (45 in 1970, 40 in 1972)
Tony Perez (40 in 1970)
George Foster (52 in 1977, 40 in 1978)
Greg Vaughn (45 in 1999)
Ken Griffey, Jr. (40 in 2000)
Adam Dunn (46 in 2004, 40 in 2005, 40 in 2006, 40 in 2007)
Eugenio Suarez (40 in 2019)

Ironman92
09-01-2019, 02:15 PM
Screw you stupid porn stache

Oh he touched the dirt around my mound on way to dugout

Rolando
09-01-2019, 02:21 PM
Screw you stupid porn stache

Oh he touched the dirt around my mound on way to dugout

I agree what a clown. If nothing else that play made me get into the game again now I really want to beat them today and tonight

adkindo
09-01-2019, 02:25 PM
Screw you stupid porn stache

Oh he touched the dirt around my mound on way to dugout

think it was mostly a case of coming off a year where almost every bounce went his way, he is having a year where the exact opposite is happening.....then he finds himself giving up 3 runs in 3 innings to one of the worst teams in the division......so he is likely pointing his frustrations all over the place

DocRed
09-01-2019, 02:29 PM
Seems like every game is a the Keystone Cops....

adkindo
09-01-2019, 02:37 PM
Mahle thinks that Bauer could help in the bullpen :)

adkindo
09-01-2019, 02:44 PM
Geno and Aquino both come up a little short

adkindo
09-01-2019, 02:46 PM
feels like after last night, much of RZ is taking a day off

Fil3232
09-01-2019, 02:50 PM
The final numbers this year might not look great but Iím a long way from giving up on Mahle. Heís got a lot of compete and seems to possess a bit of Ďit.í The K/BB ratio is sterling and I trust him to keep adjusting and honing his craft. Heís pitched a great game today.

adkindo
09-01-2019, 02:54 PM
Galvis gets payback

North
09-01-2019, 02:54 PM
Galvis dbl.

Ironman92
09-01-2019, 02:55 PM
Freddy focused

JohnnyRed
09-01-2019, 02:56 PM
Listening the Jays Fans complain about Galvis is a win in itself!

JaxRed
09-01-2019, 02:56 PM
Martinez not much of an outfielder...

REDREAD
09-01-2019, 02:57 PM
Reds up 3-1 in the 7th inning, and only 3 pages of game thread... I can tell it's near the end of the season...

RiverRat13
09-01-2019, 02:58 PM
The final numbers this year might not look great but I’m a long way from giving up on Mahle. He’s got a lot of compete and seems to possess a bit of ‘it.’ The K/BB ratio is sterling and I trust him to keep adjusting and honing his craft. He’s pitched a great game today.

I'm a big Mahle fan as well. He has to find a way to limit HRs, especially against LHH. I'd still advocate for him to have a lefty opener next year to punish teams who try to stack lefties against him.

Ironman92
09-01-2019, 03:01 PM
Geesh. Not a strike but also can be driven to RF

Ironman92
09-01-2019, 03:02 PM
Iglesias down 0-2 for 300th time

Ironman92
09-01-2019, 03:06 PM
People just waiting for negative happenings to post probably

adkindo
09-01-2019, 03:06 PM
that dude is the biggest clown in MLB

Ironman92
09-01-2019, 03:07 PM
Oh, he mad

adkindo
09-01-2019, 03:07 PM
there is a 0% chance Mahle meant to do that

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I actually agree with Bell here....Mahle threw a gem...been away for a while. Get him out of there on a high note to build that confidence.

Ironman92
09-01-2019, 03:09 PM
5 games in 50 hours

I disagree with removing Mahle here

RED VAN HOT
09-01-2019, 03:09 PM
We all know that the Reds need to add to the lead in order to win.

JaxRed
09-01-2019, 03:09 PM
Verlander into 8th with no-hitter

woodyjoe
09-01-2019, 03:10 PM
Martinez is a crybaby!

JaxRed
09-01-2019, 03:11 PM
Wow, weak swing by Molina.

ochoa30
09-01-2019, 03:19 PM
You just know that's going to be a huge run. That's a run the Reds would never get. Gotta give them credit. Nobody thought Martinez would go there. Hopefully they will add on.

Dat dude BP
09-01-2019, 03:19 PM
Our fabulous bullpen is gearing up to let us down again

North
09-01-2019, 03:21 PM
Verlander into 8th with no-hitter

Just switched over to MLB Tonight show. 8th inning over.

JaxRed
09-01-2019, 03:21 PM
Just switched over to MLB Tonight show. 8th inning over.

Yep but game is 0-0

JaxRed
09-01-2019, 03:29 PM
Now it's 2-0 heading to bottom of the 9th.

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You know we're going to see Raisel in the 9th.....

Ironman92
09-01-2019, 03:30 PM
Sorry Reds, watching Verlander

JCM11
09-01-2019, 03:31 PM
Another ball 4 for Amir on a slider.

Now he air mails a pickoff throw into the 10th row. good grief

JaxRed
09-01-2019, 03:34 PM
I wonder if he tweaked something.... Stupid throwovers...

BluegrassRedleg
09-01-2019, 03:36 PM
Daily embarrassment.

adkindo
09-01-2019, 03:36 PM
Sorry Reds, watching Verlander

lucky you

Fil3232
09-01-2019, 03:36 PM
2020: need bullpen arms

The Operator
09-01-2019, 03:36 PM
Turned the game on just in time to see Amir throw a ball into the stands and give up a single to make it 1st and 3rd with nobody out.

1990 gave us "The Nasty Boys", 2019 gives us "The Chernobyl Boys", a meltdown waiting to happen.

REDREAD
09-01-2019, 03:36 PM
Garrett gives up a baserunner (forget how)
Throws the ball into the stands on a pickoff attempt. runner to 2b
Gives up a single 1st and 3rd , no out, Lorenzen coming in.

This seems like the right move, but I guess Lorenzen finishes the game or the Reds take a huge risk in the 9th.. If Lorenzen finishes the game, I guess Castillo needs to go really deep against Ponce Deleon in the 2nd game

woodyjoe
09-01-2019, 03:37 PM
Bell pushing all the wrong pitching buttons.

North
09-01-2019, 03:37 PM
No hitter!

BluegrassRedleg
09-01-2019, 03:38 PM
Three for Verlander. That's good stuff.

ochoa30
09-01-2019, 03:38 PM
Bell pushing all the wrong pitching buttons.

Theres not many good buttons to push if any. Tough job for anyone.

JaxRed
09-01-2019, 03:39 PM
Garrett gives up a baserunner (forget how)
Throws the ball into the stands on a pickoff attempt. runner to 2b
Gives up a single 1st and 3rd , no out, Lorenzen coming in.

This seems like the right move, but I guess Lorenzen finishes the game or the Reds take a huge risk in the 9th.. If Lorenzen finishes the game, I guess Castillo needs to go really deep against Ponce Deleon in the 2nd game

He walked leadoff guy. I'd have pulled him there.

The Operator
09-01-2019, 03:40 PM
Just like that, tie game.

REDREAD
09-01-2019, 03:40 PM
sac fly , tie game

ochoa30
09-01-2019, 03:40 PM
He walked leadoff guy. I'd have pulled him there.

Yep, sadly it's becoming his signature move. Hes been awful for quite a while.

Dat dude BP
09-01-2019, 03:41 PM
Another great pitching performance down the drain. We desperately need bullpen help. I don’t care for all the we need puig talk. It’s obvious we need pitching more than anything

REDREAD
09-01-2019, 03:42 PM
sigh, cards steal 2b

NebraskaRed
09-01-2019, 03:42 PM
Yep, sadly it's becoming his signature move. Hes been awful for quite a while.

He is intent on throwing his slider no matter what. More and more this season, "no matter what" means putting runners on base.

JaxRed
09-01-2019, 03:43 PM
Even if he didn't get him, that was nice play by Tucker....

Kc61
09-01-2019, 03:43 PM
Of late, Stephenson has been pretty good. Lorenzen has been very good.

Thatís about it for this bullpen.

Ironman92
09-01-2019, 03:43 PM
Now everyone is posting

Knowing what we know with limited pitching and Mahle only 2 hits.....no way I take out Mahle there. Save a a pitcher or two for the game

We have another game Dave, donít assume Castillo greatness

The Operator
09-01-2019, 03:43 PM
A huge problem I have with MLB scoring decisions is that Lorenzen will get dinged with a blown save here.


Amir pitches like crap and gets pulled before he coughs the run up. Lorenzen retires the first batter he faces but Amir's runner scores and Lorenzen gets hung with the blown save. Not cool.

REDREAD
09-01-2019, 03:43 PM
why is bell challenging the steal.. he clearly was safe

adkindo
09-01-2019, 03:43 PM
No hitter!

I think he was 1 Walk away from Perfect Game.....walked the 2nd batter on the game.

Dat dude BP
09-01-2019, 03:44 PM
This series has pissed me off to no ending. I hate the cardinals

The Operator
09-01-2019, 03:44 PM
Nice play Galvis!

Runner moves to 3rd. Need a big out here, Michael.

BluegrassRedleg
09-01-2019, 03:46 PM
Theres not many good buttons to push if any. Tough job for anyone.

Agree. Bell is incompetent, but I'm not sure the best manager of all-time could work with these guys. It's just a daily mystery grab bag of failure. You never know who it's going to be.

Kc61
09-01-2019, 03:46 PM
The bullpen has deteriorated as the year’s gone by.

But the Reds’ offense stinks and especially on the road.

It’s a deadly combination.

REDREAD
09-01-2019, 03:46 PM
great job of pitching by Lorenzen.. was put in a very hard situation.

adkindo
09-01-2019, 03:47 PM
great job by MiLo to get us to the 9th tied...

The Operator
09-01-2019, 03:47 PM
Good work Michael!

Way to save Amir from taking the loss even though you got unfairly hung with a blown save in the process.

Dat dude BP
09-01-2019, 03:48 PM
I’ll call it now. We get a run in the 9th and give Iglesias a chance to redeem himself. This time he gives up back to back homers

adkindo
09-01-2019, 03:48 PM
The bullpen has deteriorated as the year’s gone by.

But the Reds’ offense stinks and especially on the road.

It’s a deadly combination.

the bullpen (Except Iggy) had teams on lockdown in recent weeks....they had a very rough patch in the middle of the year and it was rough, but they have been solid since.

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I’ll call it now. We get a run in the 9th and give Iglesias a chance to redeem himself. This time he gives up back to back homers

it would be stupid for Bell to take the ball from Lorenzen going into the 9th in my opinion

Kc61
09-01-2019, 03:50 PM
the bullpen (Except Iggy) had teams on lockdown in recent weeks....they had a very rough patch in the middle of the year and it was rough, but they have been solid since.

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All depth has disappeared. Garrett’s having a bad second half. Iggy has blown up.

The pen is now Lorenzen, a decent Stephenson, and little else.

There were good spots this season but it’s now a a shoestring.

The Operator
09-01-2019, 03:50 PM
The bullpen has deteriorated as the year’s gone by.

But the Reds’ offense stinks and especially on the road.

It’s a deadly combination.
I'll give you credit, you've been singing this tune for a while and you've been dead on.


If The Reds are going to use their bullpen so heavily (and to be fair most of MLB is too), they've got to go out and get some more high quality arms.

You can't rely on the David Hernandez's and Jared Hughes' of the world to carry all of those high leverage innings.


They've gotta fix this pen in the offseason.

adkindo
09-01-2019, 03:51 PM
The Punisher is due...

Red Raindog
09-01-2019, 03:51 PM
I'll give you credit, you've been singing this tune for a while and you've been dead on.


If The Reds are going to use their bullpen so heavily (and to be fair most of MLB is too), they've got to go out and get some more high quality arms.

You can't rely on the David Hernandez's and Jared Hughes' of the world to carry all of those high leverage innings.


They've gotta fix this pen in the offseason.

The offense is not exactly top shelf either


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adkindo
09-01-2019, 03:52 PM
The Punisher is due...

for a strikeout

ochoa30
09-01-2019, 03:53 PM
Did he really swing both times? They looked like checked swings to me. Everything going the Cards way this series. Must be nice.

The Operator
09-01-2019, 03:53 PM
The offense is not exactly top shelf either


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For sure, that's a whole conversation all unto itself. Definitely need at least one major thumper this offseason.

Dat dude BP
09-01-2019, 03:53 PM
In a few weeks, we may refer to him as “the Pedro” in honor of Pedro soriano

The Operator
09-01-2019, 03:53 PM
Carlos Martinez has basically reinvented himself as Sergio Romo as a reliever.

All breaking balls all the time.

The Operator
09-01-2019, 03:56 PM
Lorenzen remains in the game.

REDREAD
09-01-2019, 03:56 PM
I like keeping lorenzen in.. let's try to win this one

Jomama
09-01-2019, 03:56 PM
Went to make a pot of chili at 3-1 Reds. Told my son that by the time I got back they wouldn't be ahead any more. Let me guess...he pulled Mahle too early? Was it, by chance, a double switch?

adkindo
09-01-2019, 03:56 PM
I'll give you credit, you've been singing this tune for a while and you've been dead on.


If The Reds are going to use their bullpen so heavily (and to be fair most of MLB is too), they've got to go out and get some more high quality arms.

You can't rely on the David Hernandez's and Jared Hughes' of the world to carry all of those high leverage innings.


They've gotta fix this pen in the offseason.

it is tough to get those arms.....every year it seems like there are a few teams that clearly invest in their bullpen, and every year (sure it is not true, but it seems this way) those arms that had 2.3 ERA's last year seem to pitch near a 7.2 ERA the next year. If am not sure how reasonable this method is, but I recently heard someone say that fresh arms is the best strategy.....so if you can have a good closer, some Left handed pitchers and a solid set up guy or two.....just make sure the other 3-4 guys are young and have 2-3 similar guys in AAA. Then move them up and down to keep them fresh.

The Operator
09-01-2019, 03:59 PM
Walks the leadoff runner.


A very "Reds bullpen" thing to do.

adkindo
09-01-2019, 03:59 PM
seems like Martinez has had 12 at bats today

Red Raindog
09-01-2019, 04:00 PM
Just hurry up and lose this game
Grrr


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adkindo
09-01-2019, 04:02 PM
nice try Aquino

ochoa30
09-01-2019, 04:02 PM
As hard as this is as a fan to go through. This team must be reeling. They just cant get it done and it's been this way pretty much all year. So many players struggling on and off. The team, especially the offense just never seemed to come together. Tough year all around.

The Operator
09-01-2019, 04:03 PM
Reds caught a break with a ground rule double but this bad boy is as good as over.


We'd need Chapman to keep this run from scoring with nobody out.

Dat dude BP
09-01-2019, 04:03 PM
That will do it. Gd I hate Molina more than anyone on their team. Put in Iglesias!

adkindo
09-01-2019, 04:03 PM
sooo, we basically need 3 strikeouts in a row

NebraskaRed
09-01-2019, 04:03 PM
Runners at 2nd and 3rd with no outs.

Let's hope for a miracle.

ZakkW
09-01-2019, 04:03 PM
Just concede the winning run and go to the dugout. Very infuriating and frustrating to continually do this v. StL

The Operator
09-01-2019, 04:04 PM
They're not loading the bases to get a force out? Really?

Okay

Dat dude BP
09-01-2019, 04:05 PM
Those that want puig back, take a look at exhibit A. Our pitching in general.

The Operator
09-01-2019, 04:05 PM
lol game over

Dat dude BP
09-01-2019, 04:05 PM
What a joke. I’m so tired of losing

Kc61
09-01-2019, 04:05 PM
it is tough to get those arms.....every year it seems like there are a few teams that clearly invest in their bullpen, and every year (sure it is not true, but it seems this way) those arms that had 2.3 ERA's last year seem to pitch near a 7.2 ERA the next year. If am not sure how reasonable this method is, but I recently heard someone say that fresh arms is the best strategy.....so if you can have a good closer, some Left handed pitchers and a solid set up guy or two.....just make sure the other 3-4 guys are young and have 2-3 similar guys in AAA. Then move them up and down to keep them fresh.

You need to put the pen together from many sources. The FA and trade markets are among those sources.

You can’t eliminate those sources because relievers can be volatile.

Just be analytical and smart about your purchases.

FAs, trades, organizational relievers, organizational starters, the waiver wire. Use them all, just recognize the importance of the pen and having enough good guys.

NebraskaRed
09-01-2019, 04:06 PM
Embarrassing

Jomama
09-01-2019, 04:06 PM
How about we just forfeit tonight's game?

mhs95_06
09-01-2019, 04:06 PM
This blown save and loss by Lorenzen isn't be as terrible as the one by Iggy yesterday, as there was a partner involved today in Garrett.

REDREAD
09-01-2019, 04:06 PM
welll, that sucked :(

Big Klu
09-01-2019, 04:06 PM
Reds fall to 6-17 on Sunday.

ochoa30
09-01-2019, 04:06 PM
How about we just forfeit tonight's game?

Pretty sure the Reds probably would if they could. Man, this is brutal.

UPRedsFan
09-01-2019, 04:08 PM
Those that want puig back, take a look at exhibit A. Our pitching in general.

And exhibit B is Puig OPSing well below.800

mhs95_06
09-01-2019, 04:08 PM
Reds caught a break with a ground rule double but this bad boy is as good as over.


We'd need Chapman to keep this run from scoring with nobody out.

He would have let loose a wild pitch before he got 3 strike outs!

gagliano
09-01-2019, 04:08 PM
Garrett gives up a baserunner (forget how)
Throws the ball into the stands on a pickoff attempt. runner to 2b
Gives up a single 1st and 3rd , no out, Lorenzen coming in.

This seems like the right move, but I guess Lorenzen finishes the game or the Reds take a huge risk in the 9th.. If Lorenzen finishes the game, I guess Castillo needs to go really deep against Ponce Deleon in the 2nd game

yes, and dont forget ponce de leon has that whole fountain of youth thing going for him, too.

The Operator
09-01-2019, 04:08 PM
Back to back double headers on the road is a daunting task but man, you'd like to not lose in such excruciating fashion.

Man, this season sucks.

JaxRed
09-01-2019, 04:09 PM
Both 8th and 9th we start out walking the first batter.

RR1971
09-01-2019, 04:09 PM
Back to back double headers on the road is a daunting task but man, you'd like to not lose in such excruciating fashion.

Man, this season sucks.
I had to listen to the game today but from memory one run scored on an error and the other three runs had gotten on base from a base on balls. Is that correct?

NebraskaRed
09-01-2019, 04:09 PM
I'll save some posters some time:


"LOL Told you that the Reds suck. I called it.

Go Auburn!"

mhs95_06
09-01-2019, 04:10 PM
Reds squander 2 great pitching starts in a row!

JCM11
09-01-2019, 04:11 PM
It looks like the Marlins are the only team in baseball we can beat on the road.

Umkubas
09-01-2019, 04:12 PM
LOSS 73

RR1971
09-01-2019, 04:12 PM
I'll save some posters some time:


"LOL Told you that the Reds suck. I called it.

Go Auburn!"
You're pretty much a ****** bag.

UPRedsFan
09-01-2019, 04:13 PM
Reds squander 2 great pitching starts in a row!
Let’s start a movement to change the rules to a 7 inning game next year

ochoa30
09-01-2019, 04:13 PM
I had to listen to the game today but from memory one run scored on an error and the other three runs had gotten on base from a base on balls. Is that correct?

One was a HBP but yeah. They pretty much stole 3 runs. Reds just not a good team overall and these kinds of games really drive that point home. Not enough offense, defensive mistakes, and bullpen breaking down. Pretty much the same story it's been all year. When and how do they change this losing culture? They changed a lot of the players and are getting similar results, what's next?

rob meehan
09-01-2019, 04:14 PM
its on bell again .he took out mahle at 90 pitches and only 2 hits with one out in the seventh when the bullpen is not getting it.

NebraskaRed
09-01-2019, 04:14 PM
You're pretty much a ****** bag.

What do you have against Auburn? That was an exciting win yesterday.

elrojo
09-01-2019, 04:20 PM
Apparently, he is uncoachable. If so, it's time for him to try his hand at basketball again.

elrojo
09-01-2019, 04:28 PM
Good idea. Indeed, why doesn't someone with nothing else to do figure how many games the Reds would
have won this year if all games ended after the eighth inning?

Ron Madden
09-01-2019, 05:35 PM
Box Score

https://www.mlb.com/gameday/reds-vs-cardinals/2019/09/01/566634#game_state=final,lock_state=final,game_tab= box,game=566634