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Ron Madden
09-02-2019, 09:35 AM
Reds
Senzel CF
Votto 1B
Ervin LF
Aquino RF
Iglesias SS
Casali C
Farmer 3B
DeSclafani P
Blandino 2B

Phillies
Dickerson LF
Miller 3B
Harper RF
Hoskins 1B
Hernandez 2B
Kingery SS
Haseley CF
Knapp C
Smyly P

Ironman92
09-02-2019, 10:04 AM
As a great man once said, ďletís score 12, itíll be funĒ

NebraskaRed
09-02-2019, 11:03 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EDd8jwcXUAACxow?format=jpg&name=small

Your...2020...CINCINNATI REDS!

757690
09-02-2019, 12:44 PM
Hoping Geno is just getting the cautious day off.

adkindo
09-02-2019, 01:02 PM
Hoping Geno is just getting the cautious day off.

no word on him? Last I heard he would get a MRI or evaluation this morning in Cincinnati.

JaxRed
09-02-2019, 01:41 PM
no word on him? Last I heard he would get a MRI or evaluation this morning in Cincinnati.

I interpret the "no news" as a bad thing.....

Kc61
09-02-2019, 02:12 PM
Goal for the Reds now is to avoid ninety losses and finish the season reasonably strong.

The Reds are just awful on the road, in particularly the offense. These home games are precious opportunities to win some games.

Go Reds.

Ironman92
09-02-2019, 02:13 PM
Phillies lineup and pitcher stink

So will we lose 15-12?

Kc61
09-02-2019, 02:14 PM
Happy to see Alex Blandino back on the field for Reds.

Good OBP man, versatile.

Suarez update - bruised left hand, day to day, no fracture.

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Votto with a poor defensive play, an error, although not the easiest chance.

Harper on second, two down for Phils.

Ron Madden
09-02-2019, 02:16 PM
No broken bones in Geno's hand.
Just a bad bruise should only miss a few games

Ironman92
09-02-2019, 02:16 PM
Sounds crazy but on the misplay by Votto....Ervin in LF had a really big back up lol

JaxRed
09-02-2019, 02:17 PM
Disco gets Dickerson to pop up to third, and next guy flies to CF on first pitch. Harper grounds to Votto on 1st pitch but Votto boots it. Could have been 5 pitch first inning. Harper gets to second.

Gets a slightly generous call to K Hoskins. 10 pitch inning.

Kc61
09-02-2019, 02:18 PM
Nice K by Disco, nothing doing in first for Phils.

Norm Chortleton
09-02-2019, 02:22 PM
Votto with a poor defensive play, an error, although not the easiest chance.

It is if you charge it and/or at least get in front of it. He did neither

JaxRed
09-02-2019, 02:23 PM
Senzel goes down swinging....and looking bad while doing so. Votto down on 1 pitch. Smyly throwing some junk....

Ervin succumbs to the junk... swinging,

SomeCallMeTim
09-02-2019, 02:29 PM
I think Jim Kaat could come out of retirement and shutdown the Reds. What is it about junkball lefties? It seems like its been this way for decades.

2.8 HR per 9 and Smyly will toss a 4 hitter.

Granted the Reds have to be exhausted...canít expect to much.

JaxRed
09-02-2019, 02:30 PM
Disco walks leadoff guy.

JCM11
09-02-2019, 02:32 PM
That was a joke of a juiced ball HR.

Ironman92
09-02-2019, 02:32 PM
Todd Frazier looking HR, fooled but still goes

757690
09-02-2019, 02:37 PM
I’m digging Blandino’s bushy 80’s haircut, with the curls sticking out the back of the cap.

Ron Madden
09-02-2019, 02:41 PM
Aquino Is Amazing!!!

Kc61
09-02-2019, 02:41 PM
He punished that.

Ironman92
09-02-2019, 02:41 PM
Aquino has to HR today...right?

Norm Chortleton
09-02-2019, 02:41 PM
[emoji88]

757690
09-02-2019, 02:41 PM
It’s poetic that Aquino’s 15th HR (Foster’s uni #) is an upper decker.

Ironman92
09-02-2019, 02:42 PM
Iím 1:30 behind on FOX sports GO

757690
09-02-2019, 02:42 PM
Fastest to 15.

Ironman92
09-02-2019, 02:45 PM
No talky

Big Klu
09-02-2019, 02:47 PM
Aquino is 189th on the Reds' all-time home run list -- tied with 11 other players:

Sam Bohne
Ruben Bressler
Bill Doran
Phillip Ervin
Arlie Latham (the Freshest Man on Earth)
Max Marshall
Kelly Stinnett
Johnny Temple
Farmer Vaughn
Gee Walker
Babe Young

Ironman92
09-02-2019, 02:47 PM
It it starts at the knees...LET IT GO

Ironman92
09-02-2019, 02:49 PM
4 strikeouts....none were close to being hit and all the exact same pitch

Better see adjustments by this guys the next go around

Tony Cloninger
09-02-2019, 02:53 PM
4 strikeouts....none were close to being hit and all the exact same pitch

Better see adjustments by this guys the next go around

If they don’t have a report on this guy that he’s a Jamie Moyer. Randy Jones type junker than fat chance they become more patient or just go oppo on him next time.

Ironman92
09-02-2019, 02:58 PM
That ball was hit

adkindo
09-02-2019, 02:59 PM
I thought Disco was declared "fixed" recently...

Ironman92
09-02-2019, 03:00 PM
If they donít have a report on this guy that heís a Jamie Moyer. Randy Jones type junker than fat chance they become more patient or just go oppo on him next time.

I might unnoticeably scoot up in the box and wait on it to be throw.

He throws in good and off plate with his fastball and uses fastball high and outside to get eyes up there.....then starts one thigh high that almost bounces and with 2 strikes itís working good

Ironman92
09-02-2019, 03:03 PM
Smyly hit 94 mph

Ironman92
09-02-2019, 03:03 PM
Smyly missing with his curve location now

Redeye fly
09-02-2019, 03:04 PM
I thought Disco was declared "fixed" recently...
He probably is. I am not going to overreact to today just yet. Castillo hasn't quite been on top of his game lately either including that bad outing against St. Louis. These days happen. If he says he feels the best mechanically that he has in years he probably does.

JCM11
09-02-2019, 03:05 PM
Senzel is completely lost at the plate.

Tony Cloninger
09-02-2019, 03:05 PM
Disco. As always. Very up and down. Never know what you’re going to get.
I prefer the early Disco of 74-76 to The everyone’s got a disco song and let’s just stick a beat behind these words 1978-79 Disco.

Ironman92
09-02-2019, 03:06 PM
5 strikeouts on that pitch

Redeye fly
09-02-2019, 03:06 PM
He looks out to me. He kept his glove down the whole time and his hand went right into the glove sitting there with the ball in it.

Ironman92
09-02-2019, 03:07 PM
Safe

mamell
09-02-2019, 03:08 PM
Safe

Sure looked safe by a little finger to me..except our opinions don't count.

Tony Cloninger
09-02-2019, 03:08 PM
I might unnoticeably scoot up in the box and wait on it to be throw.

He throws in good and off plate with his fastball and uses fastball high and outside to get eyes up there.....then starts one thigh high that almost bounces and with 2 strikes it’s working good


Great observations.

Randy Jones frustrated the Reds so bad in 75-76 that Rose quit switch hitting against him.

Ironman92
09-02-2019, 03:09 PM
I knew they wouldnít change it, but he was safe

Big Klu
09-02-2019, 03:09 PM
I never saw a tag. If that's the best we can do with replay, then the entire concept needs to be scrapped, and tossed in the trash can.

Kc61
09-02-2019, 03:10 PM
Reds fundamentals, defense, base running, have been weak of late.

Blandino is not a speedster, no reason for him to run on that play.

Reds giving away outs, running into outs. They don’t have the talent level to play that way.

mamell
09-02-2019, 03:13 PM
Well...I'd like to watch the rest of this season, but...I'm quickly losing interest. Other things also happening in my life as well. Oh well.. Enjoy the game folks and I hope we win by GOBS n GOBS.. :eek:

Tony Cloninger
09-02-2019, 03:16 PM
Reds fundamentals, defense, base running, have been weak of late.

Blandino is not a speedster, no reason for him to run on that play.

Reds giving away outs, running into outs. They don’t have the talent level to play that way.


They run into ours like they are the 76 Reds. Enough with this wanna be aggressive crap when you’re not successful barely half the time.

Ironman92
09-02-2019, 03:18 PM
Adjust Phillip

Ironman92
09-02-2019, 03:20 PM
Sometimes itís about pitcher/batter, not righty/lefty

757690
09-02-2019, 03:30 PM
The Phillies TV crew has a sideline reporter Gregg Abbott, who is even more Jim Day than Jim Day.

BCubb2003
09-02-2019, 03:32 PM
I never saw a tag. If that's the best we can do with replay, then the entire concept needs to be scrapped, and tossed in the trash can.

I wonder if the team and stadium or broadcaster decide how many and where the cameras are. The Reds could pioneer having the best replay angles in baseball.

Jomama
09-02-2019, 03:35 PM
Reds fundamentals, defense, base running, have been weak of late.

Blandino is not a speedster, no reason for him to run on that play.

Reds giving away outs, running into outs. They don’t have the talent level to play that way.

Fundamentals, defense and baserunning have been weak all year.

Ironman92
09-02-2019, 03:42 PM
Good first step, good angle and great catch

Thank You overspin

adkindo
09-02-2019, 03:48 PM
Reds get to bat against Jared Hughes

Ironman92
09-02-2019, 03:49 PM
Getting 1st guys on then being dumb

adkindo
09-02-2019, 03:50 PM
:bang:

JCM11
09-02-2019, 03:50 PM
Running ourselves into outs down by 3 runs. Is this team even trying anymore?

Ironman92
09-02-2019, 03:51 PM
Dumb as hell

Ironman92
09-02-2019, 03:52 PM
Damnit Senzel. So dumb

Meat of the order. Should be 1st and 2nd no outs

Ironman92
09-02-2019, 03:53 PM
Seriously, throw your analytics book out sometime.

Could Ervin had looked worse against Smyly? Seriously?

So they take him out as Ervin comes up. [emoji2359]

Redsfan6272
09-02-2019, 04:00 PM
Ervin as been swinging the bat. Why pinch hit fir him??

Kc61
09-02-2019, 04:03 PM
The Reds lately are just impossible to watch.

Pitcher can’t catch a flip from Votto. Wild pickoff throw. Weak offense loses baserunners with bizarre steal decisions. Bullpen consistently failing to hold leads.

Starting pitching remains solid, even Disco today not that bad.

But they lack offense, bullpen, and are weak fundamentally. Hate to say it, but Cards are better in part because they know how to play the game - as they showed this weekend.

Redsfan6272
09-02-2019, 04:06 PM
The Reds lately are just impossible to watch.

Pitcher can’t catch a flip from Votto. Wild pickoff throw. Weak offense loses baserunners with bizarre steal decisions. Bullpen consistently failing to hold leads.

Starting pitching remains solid, even Disco today not that bad.

But they lack offense, bullpen, and are weak fundamentally.

And to add they dont look focused as a team on what needs to be done to quit being a below .500 team!! The FO and Manager have to figure this out or sadly our fans will see the Reds as the second coming of the lousy past Cubs teams

JCM11
09-02-2019, 04:08 PM
Solid start from Disco today that first two run HR was a fluke swing on a pretty good pitch.

JaxRed
09-02-2019, 04:09 PM
I assume Disco is about done. I hope we see some relievers other than Garrett, Lorenzon, Stephenson and Iglesias. I'd like to see Kuhnel.

Kc61
09-02-2019, 04:09 PM
And to add they dont look focused as a team on what needs to be done to quit being a below .500 team!! The FO and Manager have to figure this out or sadly our fans will see the Reds as the second coming of the lousy past Cubs teams

I don’t think Reds aren’t trying or aren’t focused on improving. They look bad because they are playing badly. But I never assume it’s a lack of effort or focus by players or management.

They just aren’t that good yet - they need better players, and maybe still better coaching in certain aspects of the game.

Buffalo1979
09-02-2019, 04:11 PM
Jared Hughes making us look horrible

Big Klu
09-02-2019, 04:13 PM
Thom, the Reds' waiver claim on Galvis would supercede the Phillies -- had they made a claim.

JaxRed
09-02-2019, 04:17 PM
Change that rule. If you take the mound, you should face one hitter.

JCM11
09-02-2019, 04:26 PM
So nice to have Wandy back. Again I have to ask is this team even trying?

and another HR lol

BluegrassRedleg
09-02-2019, 04:26 PM
That guy would hit a billion HRs playing 81 games in Cincinnati.

gagliano
09-02-2019, 04:26 PM
Jared Hughes making us look horrible

best way to see a reds player improve: let another team have him. best way to kill a player's career: send him to the reds. the team is just snake bit with trades. sonny and freddy are the rare excepitions.

Red Raindog
09-02-2019, 04:27 PM
I see Wandy is back and in his normal form


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gagliano
09-02-2019, 04:29 PM
So nice to have Wandy back. Again I have to ask is this team even trying?

and another HR lol

i see HE'S improved lol

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Seriously, throw your analytics book out sometime.

Could Ervin had looked worse against Smyly? Seriously?

So they take him out as Ervin comes up. [emoji2359]

analytics killed the baseball game

BluegrassRedleg
09-02-2019, 04:30 PM
No, Thom, launch angle is not "swinging with an upper cut." People who swing with an upper cut don't typically hit the ball hard. Launch angle is how the ball comes off the bat, which is accomplished a different way.

Buffalo1979
09-02-2019, 04:31 PM
So proud to have Wandy back, seems like a great use of a 40 man Roster spot.

JaxRed
09-02-2019, 04:34 PM
I like to see Lorenzen pinch hitting. Please don't send him to mound when losing by 6...

Redeye fly
09-02-2019, 04:36 PM
best way to see a reds player improve: let another team have him. best way to kill a player's career: send him to the reds. the team is just snake bit with trades. sonny and freddy are the rare excepitions.
Not entirely. Actually every trade the Reds made in the offseason panned out in some way. Roark was solid, Puig took a while to get going but eventually did, and Farmer showed some usefulness. Plus we got Disco for Latos (not in baseball, at least MLB) and Castillo for Strailly. Heck... Aaron Harang for Jose Guillen... Bronson for Wily Mo. I think some of us just remember the disasters above everything else.

Big Klu
09-02-2019, 04:37 PM
Change that rule. If you take the mound, you should face one hitter.

OK, but then the batting team can't make a substitution for that first batter.

Alabama
09-02-2019, 04:39 PM
Just bad luck guys. Not like there’s a 5 year sample.

Big Klu
09-02-2019, 04:41 PM
Did Thom just call Joey, "Voto"?

JaxRed
09-02-2019, 04:41 PM
Kuhnel finally in a game. Got squeezed on one pitch

gagliano
09-02-2019, 04:43 PM
Did Thom just call Joey, "Voto"?

are we not men? we are voto!

JaxRed
09-02-2019, 04:47 PM
Kuhnel works around the error by striking out three. Chopped 2 1/2 runs off ERA.

757690
09-02-2019, 04:47 PM
Kuhnel does what he needs to and is the MVP of the game, according to anyone with a ticket stub to today’s game #freepizza

JaxRed
09-02-2019, 04:51 PM
Kuhnel in line for the win if Reds score 7.

Ironman92
09-02-2019, 04:51 PM
Aquino and Iglesias single oppo

Big Klu
09-02-2019, 04:54 PM
Kuhnel does what he needs to and is the MVP of the game, according to anyone with a ticket stub to today’s game #freepizza

Anyone with a ticket stub who is also going to be in the Cincinnati area starting tomorrow.

Alabama
09-02-2019, 04:58 PM
Great effort today.
10 games under which is where I figured they would finish. Probably end up a little worse now.

texasdave
09-02-2019, 05:08 PM
With a win today, the Cubs are on pace to win 88 games. The Reds will have to win their final 24 games of the season to reach that number.

15251

Ron Madden
09-02-2019, 05:25 PM
Box Score

https://www.mlb.com/gameday/phillies-vs-reds/2019/09/02/565288#game_state=final,lock_state=final,game_tab= box,game=565288

64red
09-02-2019, 05:47 PM
I have gone on game day, and LaRosa’s has honored the ticket. Is that not an option any more?

Redsfan6272
09-02-2019, 05:55 PM
I was always told next day after a free pizza game from the Larosas i visted

64red
09-02-2019, 06:00 PM
I was always told next day after a free pizza game from the Larosas i visted

It’s been a couple of years or more. Waiting until the next day certainly limits their risk. Their pizza is good, but I wouldn’t drive back the next day just to get a free one.

Redsfan6272
09-02-2019, 06:10 PM
Great effort today.
10 games under which is where I figured they would finish. Probably end up a little worse now.

Um i dont see any great effort today. Looked like they are in thier yearly October vacation planning mode!!

Roy Tucker
09-02-2019, 06:12 PM
It’s been a couple of years or more. Waiting until the next day certainly limits their risk. Their pizza is good, but I wouldn’t drive back the next day just to get a free one.

Pizza is like sex. Even when it’s bad, it’s still pretty good.

64red
09-02-2019, 06:19 PM
Pizza is like sex. Even when it’s bad, it’s still pretty good.

And, when it’s free, it’s even better.

Ironman92
09-02-2019, 06:37 PM
I have gone on game day, and LaRosaís has honored the ticket. Is that not an option any more?

It begins the next day and is good for 1 week

Tony Cloninger
09-02-2019, 06:56 PM
Um i dont see any great effort today. Looked like they are in thier yearly October vacation planning mode!!


Even with this team wins the whining continues. Itís become pretty much any new poster here who seems intent on taking whatever frustration they have and not just enjoy a freaking win.

Never mind they lost. Carry on.

Tony Cloninger
09-02-2019, 07:01 PM
Great effort today.
10 games under which is where I figured they would finish. Probably end up a little worse now.


Does your ******baggery know no bounds?

Is that were you figured they would finish? Who are you and where did you come from before this last year or so?

Did you get banned from Braves Zone for being the Kriskin of baseball.

Umkubas
09-02-2019, 07:50 PM
LOSS 74

Wheelhouse
09-02-2019, 08:21 PM
Even with this team wins the whining continues. Itís become pretty much any new poster here who seems intent on taking whatever frustration they have and not just enjoy a freaking win.

Never mind they lost. Carry on.

I don't get it. What do you mean "even with this team"? Are they good? And what difference does it make if the poster is new? Is his or her view less valid based on the number of posts? Isn't frustration with a losing team part of being a fan, and isn't the board for fans? I've been posting here for 20 years, and I get the feeling some people on here think Redszone is a math lab for a very narrow view of the game. Give this person a break, and cut the gaslighting.

Tony Cloninger
09-02-2019, 08:55 PM
I don't get it. What do you mean "even with this team"? Are they good? And what difference does it make if the poster is new? Is his or her view less valid based on the number of posts? Isn't frustration with a losing team part of being a fan, and isn't the board for fans? I've been posting here for 20 years, and I get the feeling some people on here think Redszone is a math lab for a very narrow view of the game. Give this person a break, and cut the gaslighting.

Redszone been around for 20 years? Iíve been here 18 so you win that battle.

I donít even know what gaslighting means. Is that a new way of grilling?

Hereís a term. Beating a dead horse. And it seems like a common theme with a lot of new posters.
Every game. Any time the Reds donít score. Leave a runner on. Give up a run to the other team.
It has been going on from Game 1. Complaining about why Hughes was even in the game from the first game. The game was over so many times that day I thought the Reds had opened up with a DH.

I complained about Bell removing starters way too fast. Even for this age of no starter must pass 6 innings less he be an ace. I stopped doing that at least after a couple of months.

Iím as mad as hell about the state of some affairs but the level of whiny. Complaining. Constant defeating attitude from the get go is even worse than 2016-18. When it was more warranted.

Maybe the rest of Cincinnati is tired of it too and will allow some carpetbagger from out of state to buy this team and say who cares if theyíre not local
Owners. As long as they spend money to get a better bullpen at the sane time you finally build a starting staff

Ron Madden
09-02-2019, 08:58 PM
I don't get it. What do you mean "even with this team"? Are they good? And what difference does it make if the poster is new? Is his or her view less valid based on the number of posts? Isn't frustration with a losing team part of being a fan, and isn't the board for fans? I've been posting here for 20 years, and I get the feeling some people on here think Redszone is a math lab for a very narrow view of the game. Give this person a break, and cut the gaslighting.

I think he's saying even when this team wins some people still whine and look for things to complain about.

gagliano
09-02-2019, 09:43 PM
I don't get it. What do you mean "even with this team"? Are they good? And what difference does it make if the poster is new? Is his or her view less valid based on the number of posts? Isn't frustration with a losing team part of being a fan, and isn't the board for fans? I've been posting here for 20 years, and I get the feeling some people on here think Redszone is a math lab for a very narrow view of the game. Give this person a break, and cut the gaslighting.

amen!!

Alabama
09-02-2019, 10:49 PM
Redszone been around for 20 years? I’ve been here 18 so you win that battle.

I don’t even know what gaslighting means. Is that a new way of grilling?

Here’s a term. Beating a dead horse. And it seems like a common theme with a lot of new posters.
Every game. Any time the Reds don’t score. Leave a runner on. Give up a run to the other team.
It has been going on from Game 1. Complaining about why Hughes was even in the game from the first game. The game was over so many times that day I thought the Reds had opened up with a DH.

I complained about Bell removing starters way too fast. Even for this age of no starter must pass 6 innings less he be an ace. I stopped doing that at least after a couple of months.

I’m as mad as hell about the state of some affairs but the level of whiny. Complaining. Constant defeating attitude from the get go is even worse than 2016-18. When it was more warranted.

Maybe the rest of Cincinnati is tired of it too and will allow some carpetbagger from out of state to buy this team and say who cares if they’re not local
Owners. As long as they spend money to get a better bullpen at the sane time you finally build a starting staff

Beating a dead horse..... like the constant tagging on Thom for being negative?

As for me, I’ve been around about 4 years, so not exactly the golden age. But I am a fan.
Yes, I predicted, in the predictions thread, twice, that we would win 75 games. You predicted 87. So just because you’ve been around for 18 years doesn’t mean jack sh’mt

Tony Cloninger
09-02-2019, 11:09 PM
Beating a dead horse..... like the constant tagging on Thom for being negative?

As for me, I’ve been around about 4 years, so not exactly the golden age. But I am a fan.
Yes, I predicted, in the predictions thread, twice, that we would win 75 games. You predicted 87. So just because you’ve been around for 18 years doesn’t mean jack sh’mt


You won’t find me beating the Thom Horse very much. That gets tiring too but he’s a terrible baseball announcer. He’s an oxymoron in that he’s called a baseball announcer.

Congratulations on winning the prediction derby. What’s your prize? Did you put money down?
Did I lose a bet with someone by predicting 87 wins? Being around for 4x longer means I put up with worst than this season or the last 3. I’ve been watching them since 1974. But of course you won the prediction derby therefore you are The Jack Ship.

Alabama
09-03-2019, 12:33 AM
You won’t find me beating the Thom Horse very much. That gets tiring too but he’s a terrible baseball announcer. He’s an oxymoron in that he’s called a baseball announcer.

Congratulations on winning the prediction derby. What’s your prize? Did you put money down?
Did I lose a bet with someone by predicting 87 wins? Being around for 4x longer means I put up with worst than this season or the last 3. I’ve been watching them since 1974. But of course you won the prediction derby therefore you are The Jack Ship.

You asked if that’s where I figured they would finish. I answered. I will be pretty close. You will not be

Sea Ray
09-03-2019, 10:00 AM
You asked if that’s where I figured they would finish. I answered. I will be pretty close. You will not be

I think you'll find that most of RZ predicted more wins than they'll end up with in the end. This is a group that views "their guys" with rose colored glasses.

Tony Cloninger
09-03-2019, 12:11 PM
You asked if thatís where I figured they would finish. I answered. I will be pretty close. You will not be


And I am really depressed that I will not win my set of stake knives for not winning the prediction derby.

I also wonít be as happy as you seem to be. More like overjoyed that you were right in yours. Like any fan of their team they always hope to win the prediction thread by predicting their team does not finish 500.

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I think you'll find that most of RZ predicted more wins than they'll end up with in the end. This is a group that views "their guys" with rose colored glasses.

They also did not predict Scooter and Wood being injured as bad as they were.
Please enjoy patting each other in the back in the coming off season.

Sea Ray
09-05-2019, 10:09 AM
And I am really depressed that I will not win my set of stake knives for not winning the prediction derby.

I also won’t be as happy as you seem to be. More like overjoyed that you were right in yours. Like any fan of their team they always hope to win the prediction thread by predicting their team does not finish 500.

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They also did not predict Scooter and Wood being injured as bad as they were.
Please enjoy patting each other in the back in the coming off season.

There was nothing in my post that pats RZers on the back. It's looking like my prediction is going to be overly rosey too. It's not about dissing or complimenting RZers. It's about this team continually falling short of expectations