Phillies @ Reds 9-2-19..2:10

[Ron Madden]

Reds
Senzel CF
Votto 1B
Ervin LF
Aquino RF
Iglesias SS
Casali C
Farmer 3B
DeSclafani P
Blandino 2B

Phillies
Dickerson LF
Miller 3B
Harper RF
Hoskins 1B
Hernandez 2B
Kingery SS
Haseley CF
Knapp C
Smyly P

[Ironman92]

As a great man once said, “let’s score 12, it’ll be fun”

[NebraskaRed]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EDd8jwcXUAACxow?format=jpg&name=small

Your...2020...CINCINNATI REDS!

[757690]

Hoping Geno is just getting the cautious day off.

[adkindo]

Hoping Geno is just getting the cautious day off.

no word on him? Last I heard he would get a MRI or evaluation this morning in Cincinnati.

[JaxRed]

no word on him? Last I heard he would get a MRI or evaluation this morning in Cincinnati.

I interpret the "no news" as a bad thing.....

[Kc61]

Goal for the Reds now is to avoid ninety losses and finish the season reasonably strong.

The Reds are just awful on the road, in particularly the offense. These home games are precious opportunities to win some games.

Go Reds.

[Ironman92]

Phillies lineup and pitcher stink

So will we lose 15-12?

[Kc61]

Happy to see Alex Blandino back on the field for Reds.

Good OBP man, versatile.

Suarez update - bruised left hand, day to day, no fracture.

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Votto with a poor defensive play, an error, although not the easiest chance.

Harper on second, two down for Phils.

[Ron Madden]

No broken bones in Geno's hand.
Just a bad bruise should only miss a few games

[Ironman92]

Sounds crazy but on the misplay by Votto....Ervin in LF had a really big back up lol

[JaxRed]

Disco gets Dickerson to pop up to third, and next guy flies to CF on first pitch. Harper grounds to Votto on 1st pitch but Votto boots it. Could have been 5 pitch first inning. Harper gets to second.

Gets a slightly generous call to K Hoskins. 10 pitch inning.

[Kc61]

Nice K by Disco, nothing doing in first for Phils.

[Norm Chortleton]

Votto with a poor defensive play, an error, although not the easiest chance.

It is if you charge it and/or at least get in front of it. He did neither

[JaxRed]

Senzel goes down swinging....and looking bad while doing so. Votto down on 1 pitch. Smyly throwing some junk....

Ervin succumbs to the junk... swinging,

[SomeCallMeTim]

I think Jim Kaat could come out of retirement and shutdown the Reds. What is it about junkball lefties? It seems like its been this way for decades.

2.8 HR per 9 and Smyly will toss a 4 hitter.

Granted the Reds have to be exhausted...can’t expect to much.

[JaxRed]

Disco walks leadoff guy.

[JCM11]

That was a joke of a juiced ball HR.

[Ironman92]

Todd Frazier looking HR, fooled but still goes

[757690]

I’m digging Blandino’s bushy 80’s haircut, with the curls sticking out the back of the cap.

[Ron Madden]

Aquino Is Amazing!!!

[Kc61]

He punished that.

[Ironman92]

Aquino has to HR today...right?

[Norm Chortleton]

[emoji88]

[757690]

It’s poetic that Aquino’s 15th HR (Foster’s uni #) is an upper decker.

[Ironman92]

I’m 1:30 behind on FOX sports GO

[757690]

Fastest to 15.

[Ironman92]

No talky

[Big Klu]

Aquino is 189th on the Reds' all-time home run list -- tied with 11 other players:

Sam Bohne
Ruben Bressler
Bill Doran
Phillip Ervin
Arlie Latham (the Freshest Man on Earth)
Max Marshall
Kelly Stinnett
Johnny Temple
Farmer Vaughn
Gee Walker
Babe Young

[Ironman92]

It it starts at the knees...LET IT GO

[Ironman92]

4 strikeouts....none were close to being hit and all the exact same pitch

Better see adjustments by this guys the next go around

[Tony Cloninger]

4 strikeouts....none were close to being hit and all the exact same pitch

Better see adjustments by this guys the next go around

If they don’t have a report on this guy that he’s a Jamie Moyer. Randy Jones type junker than fat chance they become more patient or just go oppo on him next time.

[Ironman92]

That ball was hit

[adkindo]

I thought Disco was declared "fixed" recently...

[Ironman92]

If they don’t have a report on this guy that he’s a Jamie Moyer. Randy Jones type junker than fat chance they become more patient or just go oppo on him next time.

I might unnoticeably scoot up in the box and wait on it to be throw.

He throws in good and off plate with his fastball and uses fastball high and outside to get eyes up there.....then starts one thigh high that almost bounces and with 2 strikes it’s working good

[Ironman92]

Smyly hit 94 mph

[Ironman92]

Smyly missing with his curve location now

[Redeye fly]

I thought Disco was declared "fixed" recently...
He probably is. I am not going to overreact to today just yet. Castillo hasn't quite been on top of his game lately either including that bad outing against St. Louis. These days happen. If he says he feels the best mechanically that he has in years he probably does.

[JCM11]

Senzel is completely lost at the plate.

[Tony Cloninger]

Disco. As always. Very up and down. Never know what you’re going to get.
I prefer the early Disco of 74-76 to The everyone’s got a disco song and let’s just stick a beat behind these words 1978-79 Disco.

[Ironman92]

5 strikeouts on that pitch

[Redeye fly]

He looks out to me. He kept his glove down the whole time and his hand went right into the glove sitting there with the ball in it.

[Ironman92]

Safe

[mamell]

Safe

Sure looked safe by a little finger to me..except our opinions don't count.

[Tony Cloninger]

I might unnoticeably scoot up in the box and wait on it to be throw.

He throws in good and off plate with his fastball and uses fastball high and outside to get eyes up there.....then starts one thigh high that almost bounces and with 2 strikes it’s working good


Great observations.

Randy Jones frustrated the Reds so bad in 75-76 that Rose quit switch hitting against him.

[Ironman92]

I knew they wouldn’t change it, but he was safe

[Big Klu]

I never saw a tag. If that's the best we can do with replay, then the entire concept needs to be scrapped, and tossed in the trash can.

[Kc61]

Reds fundamentals, defense, base running, have been weak of late.

Blandino is not a speedster, no reason for him to run on that play.

Reds giving away outs, running into outs. They don’t have the talent level to play that way.

[mamell]

Well...I'd like to watch the rest of this season, but...I'm quickly losing interest. Other things also happening in my life as well. Oh well.. Enjoy the game folks and I hope we win by GOBS n GOBS.. :eek:

[Tony Cloninger]

Reds fundamentals, defense, base running, have been weak of late.

Blandino is not a speedster, no reason for him to run on that play.

Reds giving away outs, running into outs. They don’t have the talent level to play that way.


They run into ours like they are the 76 Reds. Enough with this wanna be aggressive crap when you’re not successful barely half the time.

[Ironman92]

Adjust Phillip

[Ironman92]

Sometimes it’s about pitcher/batter, not righty/lefty

[757690]

The Phillies TV crew has a sideline reporter Gregg Abbott, who is even more Jim Day than Jim Day.

[BCubb2003]

I never saw a tag. If that's the best we can do with replay, then the entire concept needs to be scrapped, and tossed in the trash can.

I wonder if the team and stadium or broadcaster decide how many and where the cameras are. The Reds could pioneer having the best replay angles in baseball.

[Jomama]

Reds fundamentals, defense, base running, have been weak of late.

Blandino is not a speedster, no reason for him to run on that play.

Reds giving away outs, running into outs. They don’t have the talent level to play that way.

Fundamentals, defense and baserunning have been weak all year.

[Ironman92]

Good first step, good angle and great catch

Thank You overspin

[adkindo]

Reds get to bat against Jared Hughes

[Ironman92]

Getting 1st guys on then being dumb

[adkindo]

:bang:

[JCM11]

Running ourselves into outs down by 3 runs. Is this team even trying anymore?

[Ironman92]

Dumb as hell

[Ironman92]

Damnit Senzel. So dumb

Meat of the order. Should be 1st and 2nd no outs

[Ironman92]

Seriously, throw your analytics book out sometime.

Could Ervin had looked worse against Smyly? Seriously?

So they take him out as Ervin comes up. [emoji2359]

[Redsfan6272]

Ervin as been swinging the bat. Why pinch hit fir him??

[Kc61]

The Reds lately are just impossible to watch.

Pitcher can’t catch a flip from Votto. Wild pickoff throw. Weak offense loses baserunners with bizarre steal decisions. Bullpen consistently failing to hold leads.

Starting pitching remains solid, even Disco today not that bad.

But they lack offense, bullpen, and are weak fundamentally. Hate to say it, but Cards are better in part because they know how to play the game - as they showed this weekend.

[Redsfan6272]

The Reds lately are just impossible to watch.

Pitcher can’t catch a flip from Votto. Wild pickoff throw. Weak offense loses baserunners with bizarre steal decisions. Bullpen consistently failing to hold leads.

Starting pitching remains solid, even Disco today not that bad.

But they lack offense, bullpen, and are weak fundamentally.

And to add they dont look focused as a team on what needs to be done to quit being a below .500 team!! The FO and Manager have to figure this out or sadly our fans will see the Reds as the second coming of the lousy past Cubs teams

[JCM11]

Solid start from Disco today that first two run HR was a fluke swing on a pretty good pitch.

[JaxRed]

I assume Disco is about done. I hope we see some relievers other than Garrett, Lorenzon, Stephenson and Iglesias. I'd like to see Kuhnel.

[Kc61]

And to add they dont look focused as a team on what needs to be done to quit being a below .500 team!! The FO and Manager have to figure this out or sadly our fans will see the Reds as the second coming of the lousy past Cubs teams

I don’t think Reds aren’t trying or aren’t focused on improving. They look bad because they are playing badly. But I never assume it’s a lack of effort or focus by players or management.

They just aren’t that good yet - they need better players, and maybe still better coaching in certain aspects of the game.

[Buffalo1979]

Jared Hughes making us look horrible

[Big Klu]

Thom, the Reds' waiver claim on Galvis would supercede the Phillies -- had they made a claim.

[JaxRed]

Change that rule. If you take the mound, you should face one hitter.

[JCM11]

So nice to have Wandy back. Again I have to ask is this team even trying?

and another HR lol

[BluegrassRedleg]

That guy would hit a billion HRs playing 81 games in Cincinnati.

[gagliano]

Jared Hughes making us look horrible

best way to see a reds player improve: let another team have him. best way to kill a player's career: send him to the reds. the team is just snake bit with trades. sonny and freddy are the rare excepitions.

[Red Raindog]

I see Wandy is back and in his normal form


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[gagliano]

So nice to have Wandy back. Again I have to ask is this team even trying?

and another HR lol

i see HE'S improved lol

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Seriously, throw your analytics book out sometime.

Could Ervin had looked worse against Smyly? Seriously?

So they take him out as Ervin comes up. [emoji2359]

analytics killed the baseball game

[BluegrassRedleg]

No, Thom, launch angle is not "swinging with an upper cut." People who swing with an upper cut don't typically hit the ball hard. Launch angle is how the ball comes off the bat, which is accomplished a different way.

[Buffalo1979]

So proud to have Wandy back, seems like a great use of a 40 man Roster spot.

[JaxRed]

I like to see Lorenzen pinch hitting. Please don't send him to mound when losing by 6...

[Redeye fly]

best way to see a reds player improve: let another team have him. best way to kill a player's career: send him to the reds. the team is just snake bit with trades. sonny and freddy are the rare excepitions.
Not entirely. Actually every trade the Reds made in the offseason panned out in some way. Roark was solid, Puig took a while to get going but eventually did, and Farmer showed some usefulness. Plus we got Disco for Latos (not in baseball, at least MLB) and Castillo for Strailly. Heck... Aaron Harang for Jose Guillen... Bronson for Wily Mo. I think some of us just remember the disasters above everything else.

[Big Klu]

Change that rule. If you take the mound, you should face one hitter.

OK, but then the batting team can't make a substitution for that first batter.

[Alabama]

Just bad luck guys. Not like there’s a 5 year sample.

[Big Klu]

Did Thom just call Joey, "Voto"?

[JaxRed]

Kuhnel finally in a game. Got squeezed on one pitch

[gagliano]

Did Thom just call Joey, "Voto"?

are we not men? we are voto!

[JaxRed]

Kuhnel works around the error by striking out three. Chopped 2 1/2 runs off ERA.

[757690]

Kuhnel does what he needs to and is the MVP of the game, according to anyone with a ticket stub to today’s game #freepizza

[JaxRed]

Kuhnel in line for the win if Reds score 7.

[Ironman92]

Aquino and Iglesias single oppo

[Big Klu]

Kuhnel does what he needs to and is the MVP of the game, according to anyone with a ticket stub to today’s game #freepizza

Anyone with a ticket stub who is also going to be in the Cincinnati area starting tomorrow.

[Alabama]

Great effort today.
10 games under which is where I figured they would finish. Probably end up a little worse now.

[texasdave]

With a win today, the Cubs are on pace to win 88 games. The Reds will have to win their final 24 games of the season to reach that number.

15251

[Ron Madden]

Box Score

https://www.mlb.com/gameday/phillies-vs-reds/2019/09/02/565288#game_state=final,lock_state=final,game_tab= box,game=565288

[64red]

I have gone on game day, and LaRosa’s has honored the ticket. Is that not an option any more?

[Redsfan6272]

I was always told next day after a free pizza game from the Larosas i visted

[64red]

I was always told next day after a free pizza game from the Larosas i visted

It’s been a couple of years or more. Waiting until the next day certainly limits their risk. Their pizza is good, but I wouldn’t drive back the next day just to get a free one.

[Redsfan6272]

Great effort today.
10 games under which is where I figured they would finish. Probably end up a little worse now.

Um i dont see any great effort today. Looked like they are in thier yearly October vacation planning mode!!

[Roy Tucker]

It’s been a couple of years or more. Waiting until the next day certainly limits their risk. Their pizza is good, but I wouldn’t drive back the next day just to get a free one.

Pizza is like sex. Even when it’s bad, it’s still pretty good.

[64red]

Pizza is like sex. Even when it’s bad, it’s still pretty good.

And, when it’s free, it’s even better.

[Ironman92]

I have gone on game day, and LaRosa’s has honored the ticket. Is that not an option any more?

It begins the next day and is good for 1 week

[Tony Cloninger]

Um i dont see any great effort today. Looked like they are in thier yearly October vacation planning mode!!


Even with this team wins the whining continues. It’s become pretty much any new poster here who seems intent on taking whatever frustration they have and not just enjoy a freaking win.

Never mind they lost. Carry on.

[Tony Cloninger]

Great effort today.
10 games under which is where I figured they would finish. Probably end up a little worse now.


Does your ******baggery know no bounds?

Is that were you figured they would finish? Who are you and where did you come from before this last year or so?

Did you get banned from Braves Zone for being the Kriskin of baseball.

[Umkubas]

LOSS 74

[Wheelhouse]

Even with this team wins the whining continues. It’s become pretty much any new poster here who seems intent on taking whatever frustration they have and not just enjoy a freaking win.

Never mind they lost. Carry on.

I don't get it. What do you mean "even with this team"? Are they good? And what difference does it make if the poster is new? Is his or her view less valid based on the number of posts? Isn't frustration with a losing team part of being a fan, and isn't the board for fans? I've been posting here for 20 years, and I get the feeling some people on here think Redszone is a math lab for a very narrow view of the game. Give this person a break, and cut the gaslighting.

[Tony Cloninger]

I don't get it. What do you mean "even with this team"? Are they good? And what difference does it make if the poster is new? Is his or her view less valid based on the number of posts? Isn't frustration with a losing team part of being a fan, and isn't the board for fans? I've been posting here for 20 years, and I get the feeling some people on here think Redszone is a math lab for a very narrow view of the game. Give this person a break, and cut the gaslighting.

Redszone been around for 20 years? I’ve been here 18 so you win that battle.

I don’t even know what gaslighting means. Is that a new way of grilling?

Here’s a term. Beating a dead horse. And it seems like a common theme with a lot of new posters.
Every game. Any time the Reds don’t score. Leave a runner on. Give up a run to the other team.
It has been going on from Game 1. Complaining about why Hughes was even in the game from the first game. The game was over so many times that day I thought the Reds had opened up with a DH.

I complained about Bell removing starters way too fast. Even for this age of no starter must pass 6 innings less he be an ace. I stopped doing that at least after a couple of months.

I’m as mad as hell about the state of some affairs but the level of whiny. Complaining. Constant defeating attitude from the get go is even worse than 2016-18. When it was more warranted.

Maybe the rest of Cincinnati is tired of it too and will allow some carpetbagger from out of state to buy this team and say who cares if they’re not local
Owners. As long as they spend money to get a better bullpen at the sane time you finally build a starting staff

[Ron Madden]

I don't get it. What do you mean "even with this team"? Are they good? And what difference does it make if the poster is new? Is his or her view less valid based on the number of posts? Isn't frustration with a losing team part of being a fan, and isn't the board for fans? I've been posting here for 20 years, and I get the feeling some people on here think Redszone is a math lab for a very narrow view of the game. Give this person a break, and cut the gaslighting.

I think he's saying even when this team wins some people still whine and look for things to complain about.

[gagliano]

I don't get it. What do you mean "even with this team"? Are they good? And what difference does it make if the poster is new? Is his or her view less valid based on the number of posts? Isn't frustration with a losing team part of being a fan, and isn't the board for fans? I've been posting here for 20 years, and I get the feeling some people on here think Redszone is a math lab for a very narrow view of the game. Give this person a break, and cut the gaslighting.

amen!!

[Alabama]

Redszone been around for 20 years? I’ve been here 18 so you win that battle.

I don’t even know what gaslighting means. Is that a new way of grilling?

Here’s a term. Beating a dead horse. And it seems like a common theme with a lot of new posters.
Every game. Any time the Reds don’t score. Leave a runner on. Give up a run to the other team.
It has been going on from Game 1. Complaining about why Hughes was even in the game from the first game. The game was over so many times that day I thought the Reds had opened up with a DH.

I complained about Bell removing starters way too fast. Even for this age of no starter must pass 6 innings less he be an ace. I stopped doing that at least after a couple of months.

I’m as mad as hell about the state of some affairs but the level of whiny. Complaining. Constant defeating attitude from the get go is even worse than 2016-18. When it was more warranted.

Maybe the rest of Cincinnati is tired of it too and will allow some carpetbagger from out of state to buy this team and say who cares if they’re not local
Owners. As long as they spend money to get a better bullpen at the sane time you finally build a starting staff

Beating a dead horse..... like the constant tagging on Thom for being negative?

As for me, I’ve been around about 4 years, so not exactly the golden age. But I am a fan.
Yes, I predicted, in the predictions thread, twice, that we would win 75 games. You predicted 87. So just because you’ve been around for 18 years doesn’t mean jack sh’mt

[Tony Cloninger]

Beating a dead horse..... like the constant tagging on Thom for being negative?

As for me, I’ve been around about 4 years, so not exactly the golden age. But I am a fan.
Yes, I predicted, in the predictions thread, twice, that we would win 75 games. You predicted 87. So just because you’ve been around for 18 years doesn’t mean jack sh’mt


You won’t find me beating the Thom Horse very much. That gets tiring too but he’s a terrible baseball announcer. He’s an oxymoron in that he’s called a baseball announcer.

Congratulations on winning the prediction derby. What’s your prize? Did you put money down?
Did I lose a bet with someone by predicting 87 wins? Being around for 4x longer means I put up with worst than this season or the last 3. I’ve been watching them since 1974. But of course you won the prediction derby therefore you are The Jack Ship.

[Alabama]

You won’t find me beating the Thom Horse very much. That gets tiring too but he’s a terrible baseball announcer. He’s an oxymoron in that he’s called a baseball announcer.

Congratulations on winning the prediction derby. What’s your prize? Did you put money down?
Did I lose a bet with someone by predicting 87 wins? Being around for 4x longer means I put up with worst than this season or the last 3. I’ve been watching them since 1974. But of course you won the prediction derby therefore you are The Jack Ship.

You asked if that’s where I figured they would finish. I answered. I will be pretty close. You will not be

[Sea Ray]

You asked if that’s where I figured they would finish. I answered. I will be pretty close. You will not be

I think you'll find that most of RZ predicted more wins than they'll end up with in the end. This is a group that views "their guys" with rose colored glasses.

[Tony Cloninger]

You asked if that’s where I figured they would finish. I answered. I will be pretty close. You will not be


And I am really depressed that I will not win my set of stake knives for not winning the prediction derby.

I also won’t be as happy as you seem to be. More like overjoyed that you were right in yours. Like any fan of their team they always hope to win the prediction thread by predicting their team does not finish 500.

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I think you'll find that most of RZ predicted more wins than they'll end up with in the end. This is a group that views "their guys" with rose colored glasses.

They also did not predict Scooter and Wood being injured as bad as they were.
Please enjoy patting each other in the back in the coming off season.

[Sea Ray]

And I am really depressed that I will not win my set of stake knives for not winning the prediction derby.

I also won’t be as happy as you seem to be. More like overjoyed that you were right in yours. Like any fan of their team they always hope to win the prediction thread by predicting their team does not finish 500.

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They also did not predict Scooter and Wood being injured as bad as they were.
Please enjoy patting each other in the back in the coming off season.

There was nothing in my post that pats RZers on the back. It's looking like my prediction is going to be overly rosey too. It's not about dissing or complimenting RZers. It's about this team continually falling short of expectations