Phillies @ Reds 9-3-19

[Ron Madden]

Reds
VanMeter LF
Votto 1B
Galvis 2B
Aquino RF
Barnhart C
Senzel CF
Iglesias SS
Farmer 3B
Sims P

Phillies
Dickerson LF
Realmuto C
Harper RF
Hoskins 1B
Miller 3B
Hernandez 2B
Kingery SS
Haseley CF
Velasquez P

First Pitch 6:40 PM

[Ironman92]

Losing doesn’t seem possible with this bunch

[texasdave]

The OPS+ for this lineup is:

100
94
90
179
94
90
88
79

One of these numbers does not belong.

[Ron Madden]

The Phillies lineup has been added to the original post

[Kc61]

Reds lineup still missing Winker, Suarez, and two hitters to be named later.

[JaxRed]

Might have been a good day to see O'Grady in CF.

[Kc61]

Might have been a good day to see O'Grady in CF.

O'Grady has played 1424 minor league innings in CF. The Reds have seen him already.

The fans might want to see him in CF, but the Reds seem more interested in giving Senzel those reps.

[Big Klu]

Early start time tonight? Just got in and turned on the game, and the top of the 1st inning is already over.

[JaxRed]

Sims auditioning for 2020 rotation. Strikes out first batter but gives up solid double to Realmuto. Harper and Hoskins fly out.

[Ron Madden]

Early start time tonight? Just got in and turned on the game, and the top of the 1st inning is already over.

Yes, tonight and tomorrow 6:40 starts Thursdays game starts @ 12:35

[RedseatHR]

Two on nobody out. Let’s get a nice cushion early

[Big Klu]

Yes, tonight and tomorrow 6:40 starts Thursdays game starts @ 12:35

Are they starting that 6:40 game time now? I hate that -- I never have time to get all my chores done after work before the game starts. (And forget about ever actually going to a game! I wouldn't be able to get there in time, even if I left directly from work!)

[JaxRed]

Galvis is 1 for last 28. So Bell bats him third. Now 1 for 29.

[Ron Madden]

They'll start @ 6:40 tonight, tomorrow and the 24TH and 25TH vs the Brewers.

[RedseatHR]

Aquino gettin it done. 1-0

[JaxRed]

Aquino singles to drive in VanMeter.

[gagliano]

marty says aquino first player to win rookie of the month and player of the month since aaron judge in 2017. all those years ago in the foggy mists of the past. modern records have no meaning.

[Alabama]

Oh Nicholas

[gagliano]

freddy galvis first player since september 2 to go 0 for 4 in a game. stunning stat!

[JaxRed]

Tucker and Senzel k to end inning.

Miller flies out to warning track. Sims dodging trouble. Gets next two easily.

[RedseatHR]

Nice work Sims.

[The Operator]

Farmer with a 1 out double

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Sims took ball 4, ump calls it strike 2

[The Operator]

Van Meter walks

[The Operator]

This umps strike zone is bad

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Joey hit it hard but right into the shift

[The Operator]

Haseley doubles to start the 3rd

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Velasquez bunts the runner to 3rd

[RedseatHR]

Cowboy doesn’t like Cadillac guys

[The Operator]

Cowboy doesn’t like Cadillac guys

If Alex Bregman was a Red and made that "I could hit .330 I just don't want to, I'm swinging for the fence" comment that he made at the All-Star break, Thom Marty and Cowboy would be all over him.

Instead, he's an Astro and they love him. "Just a real nice player" as Thom likes to say.

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Corey Dickerson infield hit, runner held at 3rd

1 out for Realmuto

[The Operator]

Realmuto makes it a tie game by somehow getting to a ball up, outside and at eye level for the sac fly.

Holy crap

[Wonderful Monds]

Not sure I understand ever hitting Galvis 3rd.

[The Operator]

That's all for Sims, @CountOnAG coming in

[Jomama]

Going to the bullpen in the 3rd inning...what could possibly go wrong?

[RedseatHR]

That's all for Sims, @CountOnAG coming in

Was this a planned bullpen day?

[The Operator]

Was this a planned bullpen day?

I guess so with Sims not being stretched out


Thank god for September callups

[Kingspoint]

As long as we're doing this they should have had R.I. start the game, or bring him in to face one batter, Harper.

[The Operator]

Amir K's Harper!

Tie game at 1-1 middle of the 3rd

[Ron Madden]

Was this a planned bullpen day?

Yes, Sims pitching on 2 days rest in an emergency start filling in for Alex Wood.

[texasdave]

Garrett threw the exact same pitch 5 times. Nice.

[JaxRed]

According to web site none of them were strikes.

[The Operator]

Aquino just missed a hanger

Damn

[Kc61]

Galvis swings weakly at ball four. He’s 1 for 30 and I’m not sure he’s such a lock to return. Has a few weeks to get going again.

[The Operator]

Punisher K's

[Kingspoint]

Maybe there could be an Aquino Pirate Day.

"Aaaaar"-istedes, "Aaaaa"-quino. "Thar blows another one into the Ohio waters!"

[Kc61]

Man this Reds offense is tough to watch.

I think they’re only two hitters away from being good: Babe Ruth and Willie Mays.

[Tom Servo]

Not sure I understand ever hitting Galvis 3rd.
A week ago others on here were pounding the table asking why he wasn't hitting 3rd.

I don't think he should be batting 3rd but Bell has mostly been good at avoiding small sample noise with lineups, this does feel like a misfire there.

[RedseatHR]

I know complaining about Thom is something anyone could do about anything. I hate to pile on but I could live without the college football talk. He seems to do it a lot. I watch a fair amount of other teams broadcasts on mlb.tv and that doesn’t seem to be common with any other announcers

[Kc61]

Team has Tucker Barnhart hitting fifth, it’s hard to complain about the order.

The problem is without Winker and Suarez the lineup goes from mediocre to lousy. Don’t have the hitters.

[Tom Servo]

Team has Tucker Barnhart hitting fifth, it’s hard to complain about the order.

The problem is without Winker and Suarez the lineup goes from mediocre to lousy.
Senzel's slow motion collapse hasn't helped, though I'm not too worried about him long term. And then there is the Joey Question.

Winker's effectiveness was definitely underrated around these parts.

[Kc61]

Senzel's slow motion collapse hasn't helped, though I'm not too worried about him long term. And then there is the Joey Question.

Winker's effectiveness was definitely underrated around these parts.

Problem with Winker is he’s injury prone. A platoon guy who misses injury time doesn’t have much oppty to contribute.

But his offensive ability against RHP shouldn’t be underrated, he’s a solid hitter against them.

[Big Klu]

That was poorly played in CF. I blame Votto.

[Kc61]

I’ve been pretty down on Garrett of late, but he’s had some bad luck (and defense) this outing.

[The Operator]

Problem with Winker is he’s injury prone. A platoon guy who misses injury time doesn’t have much oppty to contribute.

But his offensive ability against RHP shouldn’t be underrated, he’s a solid hitter against them.

I don't even like that he's being labeled a platoon guy already.

Not every left handed hitter comes to the bigs and immediately mashes lefties. He'll never learn to do it if you decide he's a platoon bat in his 2nd full year, both of which he's missed significant time.

[RR1971]

Amir hasn’t had a good 2nd half.

[The Operator]

Garrett is the tale of two pitchers for sure.

[RR1971]

I don't even like that he's being labeled a platoon guy already.

Not every left handed hitter comes to the bigs and immediately mashes lefties. He'll never learn to do it if you decide he's a platoon bat in his 2nd full year, both of which he's missed significant time.
Well what is everyone supposed to think when the Reds have apparently decided he’s a platoon player?

[The Operator]

Amir walks the bases loaded

[Kc61]

I don't even like that he's being labeled a platoon guy already.

Not every left handed hitter comes to the bigs and immediately mashes lefties. He'll never learn to do it if you decide he's a platoon bat in his 2nd full year, both of which he's missed significant time.

Not sure any manager trying to win would use Winker instead of Ervin against lefties.

So he’s a platoon hitter.

[JCM11]

Garrett shouldn't get to pitch in a close game until he shows something different.

[The Operator]

Well what is everyone supposed to think when the Reds have apparently decided he’s a platoon player?

The Reds haven't had a winning season since 2013 and only 3 total winning seasons since I was a teenager.


You'll have to excuse me if I don't always just accept their judgment on things.

[RR1971]

The Reds haven't had a winning season since 2013 and only 3 total winning seasons since I was a teenager.


You'll have to excuse me if I don't always just accept their judgment on things.

Maybe you should write them a strongly worded letter.

[The Operator]

Maybe you should write them a strongly worded letter.

Or maybe I'll just defect to being a Braves fan. How's that been working for you? :)

[The Operator]

Not sure any manager trying to win would use Winker instead of Ervin against lefties.

So he’s a platoon hitter.

Bell's "trying to win" cred went out the window when he continued to run David Hernandez out there in high leverage situations when The Reds were still in the race, in addition to refusing to demote Iglesias.

I heard more than once he was "showing confidence in his guys", etc etc

Either Winker is a player you think you can build around or not

[RedseatHR]

I don't even like that he's being labeled a platoon guy already.

Not every left handed hitter comes to the bigs and immediately mashes lefties. He'll never learn to do it if you decide he's a platoon bat in his 2nd full year, both of which he's missed significant time.

It doesn’t seem that the FO+Bell see this team as a “here’s our starting 8” kind of team. I think that’s why Galvis is here. JVM is playing all over the field. Senzel can play infield and outfield. Winker has been discussed already. So the idea that a player is a platoon isn’t really what it used to be

[Kc61]

Bell's "trying to win" cred went out the window when he continued to run David Hernandez out there in high leverage situations when The Reds were still in the race, in addition to refusing to demote Iglesias.

I heard more than once he was "showing confidence in his guys", etc etc

Either Winker is a player you think you can build around or not

Winker isn’t a player to “build around” in the sense of a star who does everything well. Winker simply hits RHP very well. That’s his role, it has value. But it doesn’t mean you have to play him against lefties.

Thankfully Reds have Ervin who does hit lefties.

Bell wasn’t so lucky in the bullpen. He used Hernandez because he didn’t think he had enough good late inning guys. Which he didn’t. And still doesn’t.

[Wonderful Monds]

We’re already in the “discuss the Cowboy’s eating habits” portion of the game


also Montgomery Inn sucks

[The Operator]

Not the time to be walking people, RJ

[Kc61]

Maybe Harper will sacrifice. That’s my best shot at looking on the bright side of this situation.

[The Operator]

Welp

3-1


This ain't going so well. Thom drools over Harper's 100th RBI

[Kc61]

As a fan, I have the following ultimatum for the Reds.

Get this pitcher out or I’m shutting off the game.

You have one more batter.

[The Operator]

Awfully tight strike zone suddenly

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Sac fly

4-1 bad guys

[Redsfan6272]

If we didnt have Aquino or Suarez, this team might get shut out every night. Sigh

[Big Klu]

Winker isn’t a player to “build around” in the sense of a star who does everything well. Winker simply hits RHP very well. That’s his role, it has value. But it doesn’t mean you have to play him against lefties.

Thankfully Reds have Ervin who does hit lefties.

Bell wasn’t so lucky in the bullpen. He used Hernandez because he didn’t think he had enough good late inning guys. Which he didn’t. And still doesn’t.

Jesse Winker = John Lowenstein
Phillip Ervin = Gary Roenicke

[RedseatHR]

Good news everyone. Bauer pitches tomorrow night

[Ironman92]

I got cocky when Iglesias touched .300 and .750 OPS....now he can spend the final month slumping down to his normal numbers.

[emoji2371]

[Ironman92]

Ervin continues of late to look way better vs righties than lefties.

[RedseatHR]

Oh good. I was beginning to think I was watching this game alone
Also where is the hitting ?

[Mutaman]

On the bright side 2 of the Yankees 5 Home runs tonight have been hit by ex Reds.

[RedseatHR]

Ok maybe there’s some life in these guys

[Ironman92]

On the bright side 2 of the Yankees 5 Home runs tonight have been hit by ex Reds.

Iglesias needs a day or two off

[RedseatHR]

Scott Kingery....cmon

[Ironman92]

Peralta [emoji2359]

Why?

Had a chance

[Fil3232]

This is borderline unwatchable baseball. Woof.

[DocRed]

Whats left to know about Peralta? The guy sucks

[adkindo]

Wandy is just bad. He is not a major league pitcher.

[Tom Servo]

No more Wandy.

[Coachforyears]

Anyone see the look Votto shot towards Bell after the last hit off of Peralta

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Definitely "WTF"

[RedseatHR]

This is borderline unwatchable baseball. Woof.

The woos are coming out. Now it’s definitely unwatchable

[BCubb2003]

Big Sal had a good night.

[Ironman92]

Again, why Peralta? Ever?

If it’s 9-2, sure pitch him in the 8th or 9th....don’t pitch him when it’s 4-2 because he’ll make it 9-2

[Alabama]

A team who has been as bad as Cincinnati for the last 5 years should have wayyyyy more talent and depth than this. Or at least a loaded farm system. I think it’s safe to say the rebuild completely failed.

[ochoa30]

Truly a slap in the face to the few remaining fans still following along to run this dude out here at this point. I get it doesnt matter that much but he should have been released a long time ago. Cant imagine a single other team sticking with someone like the Reds have done with Peralta. Just makes no sense to me at all.

[Ironman92]

Lucky only 6-2

[Redsfan6272]

Just like Hernandez, Bell will keep going with Peralta. Just like Iglasseis has 11 losses, he will cpntinue to go with him. ACCOUNTABILITY never plays a part in any decision !!

[Kc61]

Peralta was routed yesterday. I’m baffled by the decision to use him there in a two run game.

They had Stephenson warming.

Strange decision.

[Redsfan6272]

Pirates came back leading marlins. Last place is headed the Reds way if they keep Not showing up to play the rest of this month

[Umkubas]

LOSS 75

[Redsfan6272]

Marlins tied with 2 outs i jumped the gun. 4-4

[REDREAD]

they keep replaying all of Aquino's HRs on the postgame, because that's all they have to hold on to now...

[JCM11]

I would like to hear the argument for bringing Bell and Ward back next season.

[CincyDave]

Looks like we've entered and are pretty much set to stay in the 7-8 pages-of-posts-per-game stage of the season. Long gone are the 30-40 page posts.

Guess this happens every year around this time when disgust turns to indifference.

[WVRedsFan]

No more Wandy.

And yet, Bell trots him out nearly every game (or so it seems) to allow HR's and stink up the show. Dick Williams needs to do the right thing and just get him off the team or we will see him early and often. David's toys need to be taken away from him.

[Big Klu]

The woos are coming out. Now it’s definitely unwatchable

I felt bad for the dogs in the ballpark. That has got to be unsettling for them.

[gagliano]

Maybe there could be an Aquino Pirate Day.

"Aaaaar"-istedes, "Aaaaa"-quino. "Thar blows another one into the Ohio waters!"

LOL! brilliant!

[gagliano]

I know complaining about Thom is something anyone could do about anything. I hate to pile on but I could live without the college football talk. He seems to do it a lot. I watch a fair amount of other teams broadcasts on mlb.tv and that doesn’t seem to be common with any other announcers

it guts me. so obvious his head is in college football all through baseball season. you never hear of a college football announcer yammer on about baseball. i guess thom has to do something to amuse himself during those boring old baseball games.

[gagliano]

Again, why Peralta? Ever?

If it’s 9-2, sure pitch him in the 8th or 9th....don’t pitch him when it’s 4-2 because he’ll make it 9-2

and the you can bring him in lol

[Ron Madden]

Box Score

https://www.mlb.com/gameday/phillies-vs-reds/2019/09/03/565289#game_state=final,lock_state=final,game_tab= box,game=565289

[muethibp]

A team who has been as bad as Cincinnati for the last 5 years should have wayyyyy more talent and depth than this. Or at least a loaded farm system. I think it’s safe to say the rebuild completely failed.

This is the most distressing thing. It's looking like we may have literally nothing to come out of the epic terribleness we suffered through.

[cumberlandreds]

Box Score

https://www.mlb.com/gameday/phillies-vs-reds/2019/09/03/565289#game_state=final,lock_state=final,game_tab= box,game=565289

Attendance is listed at 11,452. Judging by what I could see on TeeVee there couldn't have been more than 5,000 at the park. Maybe they were counting the dogs?

[muethibp]

Attendance is listed at 11,452. Judging by what I could see on TeeVee there couldn't have been more than 5,000 at the park. Maybe they were counting the dogs?

Dogs need a ticket and they count tickets sold. So...yeah...they count the dogs. Let's not pretend they're inviting the dogs to the park for any other reason.

[REDREAD]

This is the most distressing thing. It's looking like we may have literally nothing to come out of the epic terribleness we suffered through.

Well, I guess next season will be interesting. The one year rental of Bauer hopefully motivates the front office to some more big moves. But your point is solid.. Not much fruit came out of that long rebuild -- Gray, Castillo, Suarez and some role players.