Reds @ Cubs 9-16-19

[Ron Madden]

First Pitch 8:05 PM

Reds
1. Blandino 2B
2. Ervin LF
3. Suarez 3B
4. Aquino RF
5. Casali C
6. Lorenzen CF
7. Peraza SS
8. VanMeter 1B
9. Gausman P

Cubs
1. Zobrist 2B
2. Castellanos RF
3. Bryant 3B
4. Schwarber LF
5. Contreras C
6. Caratini 1B
7. Heyward CF
8. Hoerner SS
9. Hamels P

[Redsfan6272]

Sure like to see Lorenzen start to get some hits.. Hate to see him blow this opportunity and go back to only pitching and pinch hitting

[cumberlandreds]

This is the free game of the day on MLBTV.

[Ron Madden]

The lineup for the Baby Bears has been added to the original post.

[Kinsm]

Sure like to see Lorenzen start to get some hits.. Hate to see him blow this opportunity and go back to only pitching and pinch hitting

Why? That's exactly where he should be. With this bullpen we don't need Lorenzen getting hurt playing in some carnival game in CF.

It's simply unrealistic for us fans to think he can hit well over a large sample size with so little time actually given to the act.

[NebraskaRed]

Votto out and Van Meter in his place. No explanation given yet.

[Ron Madden]

Votto out and Van Meter in his place. No explanation given yet.

Thanks, Reds lineup has been corrected in original post

[DocRed]

First Pitch 8:05 PM

Reds
1. Blandino 2B
2. Ervin LF
3. Suarez 3B
4. Aquino RF
5. Casali C
6. Lorenzen CF
7. Peraza SS
8. VanMeter CF
9. Gausman P

Cubs
1. Zobrist 2B
2. Castellanos RF
3. Bryant 3B
4. Schwarber LF
5. Contreras C
6. Caratini 1B
7. Heyward CF
8. Hoerner SS
9. Hamels P

I believe VanMeter is playing 1B, at least I hope so for the pitchers sake!

[texasdave]

No Rizzo is alright by me.

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Votto out and Van Meter in his place. No explanation given yet.

Votto was scratched from the lineup Monday against the Cubs due to illness, Bobby Nightengale of The Cincinnati Enquirer reports.

[WVRedsFan]

Me, OTOH, would prefer Lorenzen pitch and pitch well. He was a surprise before and now they have a book on him.

[adkindo]

No Rizzo is alright by me.

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Votto was scratched from the lineup Monday against the Cubs due to illness, Bobby Nightengale of The Cincinnati Enquirer reports.

he should be out the entire series

[adkindo]

I am not sure why Lorenzen pitching well and playing the field is spoke about as being mutually exclusive.

[DocRed]

Keep in mind Gausman is a reverse split pitcher and the Cubs have 4 players who will likely hit left handed today.

[Ron Madden]

Thom is back

[North]

Thom is back

...for the big city exposure. :D

[Tracy Jones]

First Pitch 8:05 PM

Reds
1. Blandino 2B
2. Ervin LF
3. Suarez 3B
4. Aquino RF
5. Casali C
6. Lorenzen CF
7. Peraza SS
8. VanMeter 1B
9. Gausman P

That is a Reds lineup I never thought I’d see.

[BluegrassRedleg]

Thom's "What in the world has happened to Cole Hamels...?" diatribe all but guarantees the Reds are getting shut down tonight. Thanks, Thom.

[Ironman92]

Good steal on first move by Ervin....dangerous slide

[NebraskaRed]

Thom can tell just by looking at Cole Hamels that his confidence isn't very high.

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Also, when the two people in front of you get walked, maybe don't swing at the first pitch.

[Tracy Jones]

Thom's "What in the world has happened to Cole Hamels...?" diatribe all but guarantees the Reds are getting shut down tonight. Thanks, Thom.

I think his 2.21 career ERA vs the Reds will be the more likely culprit

[adkindo]

Also, when the two people in front of you get walked, maybe don't swing at the first pitch.

I would.....be thinking after 2 walks, I am likely getting a fastball across the plate on the 1st pitch, and I am swinging

[NebraskaRed]

I would.....be thinking after 2 walks, I am likely getting a fastball across the plate on the 1st pitch, and I am swinging

Sure, but not when it's as inside as that pitch was.

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"Casali never even swung the bat!"

Fact Check: Casali did indeed swing the bat

[Tracy Jones]

I would.....be thinking after 2 walks, I am likely getting a fastball across the plate on the 1st pitch, and I am swinging

One pitch. One spot. If neither are there, you don’t swing.

[NebraskaRed]

nice K of Castellanos

[adkindo]

who would be in line to pitch today if not Gausman?

[Ron Madden]

who would be in line to pitch today if not Gausman?

Sonny Gray

[InsaneinthBrame]

Starting Gausman is a joke. The Reds should be ashamed of themselves. Should be putting to best team on the field against the Cubs

[NebraskaRed]

3-0 Chicago

[adkindo]

would have bet on this experiment going badly....there was a reason dude was waived as a starter

[BluegrassRedleg]

LOLcation.

[Bruce Berenyi]

at least they didnt start Ray Washburn

[klw]

Thom is back

Backstreets back

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6M6samPEMpM

[BluegrassRedleg]

I think his 2.21 career ERA vs the Reds will be the more likely culprit

According to Thom, that was July Cole Hamels. This Cole Hamels sucks.

[NebraskaRed]

Jim Day is not a great announcer, maybe he's not even a competent announcer, but boy is he better than Thom.

[TheBigLebowski]

We kicked the tires on a guy who had some upside after we were eliminated from the race. No harm done.

[Rantly]

Starting Gausman is a joke. The Reds should be ashamed of themselves. Should be putting to best team on the field against the Cubs
Yea, I missed the news, I thought I saw that Sonny was pitching tonight? Why are they giving this dude a start?

[BCubb2003]

They’re dancing in the streets of Centerville tonight.

[klw]

Yea, I missed the news, I thought I saw that Sonny was pitching tonight? Why are they giving this dude a start?

Votto got him sick #notelite

[50YrRedsFan]

Reds lineup doesn't look like much of a run producer.

[Big Klu]

Jim Day is not a great announcer, maybe he's not even a competent announcer, but boy is he better than Thom.

Jim Day actually enjoys being at the game. It's like he realizes he's the luckiest guy in the world that he actually gets paid to hang out at the ballpark. And being a generally positive person makes it much easier and more enjoyable for fans to watch the broadcast.

[NebraskaRed]

Heyward doing quite the backwards shuffle but still catches the ball.

[Big Klu]

They’re dancing in the streets of Centerville tonight.

Why? Kirk Herbstreit didn't do anything tonight.

[BCubb2003]

Why? Kirk Herbstreit didn't do anything tonight.

Isn’t Schwarber from there?

[Big Klu]

Isn’t Schwarber from there?

Middletown.

(Which could easily be mistaken for Centerville.)

[NebraskaRed]

Thom practically begging for a job with the Cubs

[Tracy Jones]

Starting Gausman is a joke. The Reds should be ashamed of themselves. Should be putting to best team on the field against the Cubs

Meh. Better now than in a meaningful game. I’d rather not see any of Bauer, Castillo, Sonny, or AD again until March.

[BCubb2003]

Middletown.

(Which could easily be mistaken for Centerville.)

My bad. Well, they’re probably dancing about something else then. They like to dance.

[Tracy Jones]

Middletown.

(Which could easily be mistaken for Centerville.)

Aside from the property values and the amount of meth, sure.

[NebraskaRed]

Colon hit by a pitch in his Reds debut.

[Big Klu]

Who's this guy?

[NebraskaRed]

I say if you lose control of your bat, you should have to go get it yourself.

[JaxRed]

Were Reds employing an opener?

[NebraskaRed]

Hamels was scared of Geno

[Tadasimha]

Suarez pitched around again.

Need good contact, AA

[Big Klu]

Thom, how can Suarez see 10 pitches in two plate appearances and only see one strike?

#mathishard

[NebraskaRed]

Thom, he did swing the bat!

[gagliano]

First Pitch 8:05 PM

Reds
1. Blandino 2B
2. Ervin LF
3. Suarez 3B
4. Aquino RF
5. Casali C
6. Lorenzen CF
7. Peraza SS
8. VanMeter 1B
9. Gausman P

Cubs
1. Zobrist 2B
2. Castellanos RF
3. Bryant 3B
4. Schwarber LF
5. Contreras C
6. Caratini 1B
7. Heyward CF
8. Hoerner SS
9. Hamels P

this may be the worst lineup of all time.

[BluegrassRedleg]

Remember back when the baseball gods let us think we had a feel-good development story with Aquino? Those were good times.

[Tracy Jones]

this may be the worst lineup of all time.

Oh I bet I could find a 1982 box score and give you a far worse lineup

[NebraskaRed]

and Colon scores a run in his Reds debut.

[gagliano]

Thom practically begging for a job with the Cubs

take him, please!

[NebraskaRed]

very Reds ending to that inning.

[BluegrassRedleg]

Oh I bet I could find a 1982 box score and give you a far worse lineup

:laugh:

No doubt.

[gagliano]

Oh I bet I could find a 1982 box score and give you a far worse lineup

so much for trying to play spoiler

[BluegrassRedleg]

I'll pick a random 1982 and see what you come up with, Tracy J.

June 1, 1982

[Tracy Jones]

so much for trying to play spoiler

As bad as things may get in the present, you can always go back to 1982 and feel better about the state of the current team.

[Ironman92]

Whew our offense SUCKS lol

[Tracy Jones]

I'll pick a random 1982 and see what you come up with, Tracy J.

June 1, 1982

Look at Sept. 17. (They were off on the 16th) Yikes!

[NebraskaRed]

i think the Reds win this one.

[Ron Madden]

Thom loves Schwarber

[Ironman92]

Good play by Schwarber

[NebraskaRed]

Van Meter has left the game due to a "family medical issue"

[Ironman92]

Van Meter has left the game due to a "family medical issue"

Hope all is ok

[NebraskaRed]

Lucas "Single" Sims

[Rantly]

Good play by Schwarber

Much to Thom’s glee

[Ron Madden]

This Ump sucks

[Kingspoint]

How in the Devil's name are those called strikes to Blandino?

[NebraskaRed]

pitch #4 wasn't a strike but pitch #2 was?

[Rantly]

7 ball walk by Blandino

[Tracy Jones]

September 17, 1982. A 5-4 loss to the Giants

Gary Redus LF
Duane Walker RF
Dave Concepcion SS
Dan Driessen 1B
Paul Householder CF
Wayne Kenchicki 3B
Ron Oester 2B
Alex Trevino C
Bob Shirley P

Also making appearances were Johnny Bench at 1st, Mike Vail and Cesar Cedeno as PH’s, and Tom Lawless as a PR

Oester hit HR number 6, and Driessen hit his team leading 14th.

[Rantly]

Thom truly is dejected by Hammels ineffective outing.

[Kingspoint]

Opposing pitcher received a 5-ft wide strike zone that inning.

[NebraskaRed]

Honestly, I don't see any NL central team going very far into the playoffs.

But you never know.

[UPRedsFan]

September 17, 1982. A 5-4 loss to the Giants

Gary Redus LF
Duane Walker RF
Dave Concepcion SS
Dan Driessen 1B
Paul Householder CF
Wayne Kenchicki 3B
Ron Oester 2B
Alex Trevino C
Bob Shirley P

.
Oh those were the days. My 14 yr old self kept thinking and hoping that Redus and Householder would become superstars.

[BluegrassRedleg]

September 17, 1982. A 5-4 loss to the Giants

Gary Redus LF
Duane Walker RF
Dave Concepcion SS
Dan Driessen 1B
Paul Householder CF
Wayne Kenchicki 3B
Ron Oester 2B
Alex Trevino C
Bob Shirley P

Also making appearances were Johnny Bench at 1st, Mike Vail and Cesar Cedeno as PH’s, and Tom Lawless as a PR

Oester hit HR number 6, and Driessen hit his team leading 14th.

Punisher hit as many HRs in August as Driessen's team lead on Sept. 17. :laugh:

I dunno, though. Driessen may have hit 30 with these balls, smaller parks, and expansion.

[Rantly]

Oh those were the days. My 14 yr old self kept thinking and hoping that Redus and Householder would become superstars.

Haha, me too, but not Duane Walker who I despised.

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Punisher hit as many HRs in August as Driessen's team lead on Sept. 17. :laugh:

I dunno, though. Driessen may have hit 30 with these balls, smaller parks, and expansion.

For sure

[Tracy Jones]

Oh those were the days. My 14 yr old self kept thinking and hoping that Redus and Householder would become superstars.

Yeah. I used to listen to the radio and keep score in an official scorebook I had. Why I did that for the 1982 team I had no idea. I was 8. My dad kept telling me that Householder in particular was no good. I refused to believe him. My dad was a smart guy. I should have listened to him more often.

[BluegrassRedleg]

Yeah. I used to listen to the radio and keep score in an official scorebook I had. Why I did that for the 1982 team I had no idea. I was 8. My dad kept telling me that Householder in particular was no good. I refused to believe him. My dad was a smart guy. I should have listened to him more often.

Same here. I'd lay down in my bed and keep the scorebook listening to Marty and Joe. I wish I still had some of those. I scored Browning's perfect game. Would love to have that now.

[Ron Madden]

Major League Baseball should be ashamed to employ the Umpires they pay to call balls and strikes in 2019.

[Tracy Jones]

Same here. I'd lay down in my bed and keep the scorebook listening to Marty and Joe. I wish I still had some of those. I scored Browning's perfect game. Would love to have that now.

Yeah it was fun. I did it occasionally for the 83 and 84 teams as well, until my book ran out of room. I always jumped on the Sunday DaytonDaily too first thing to checkout the league leaders page they put out every Sunday. By 85, I was busy playing traveling baseball in the summer and often missed the first few innings.

[redswin]

What's the score?

[Tracy Jones]

What's the score?

3-2 bad guys

[Ron Madden]

What's the score?

3-2 Cubs

[Big Klu]

Thom is complaining about the length of the game.

[NebraskaRed]

Thom complaining about how long the game is taking is as expected as me complaining about everything Thom says.

[Ron Madden]

This Ump Is Bad!

[DocRed]

Blind a** mother f*cing umpires!!!

[Kingspoint]

Blind a** mother f*cing umpires!!!

More egocentric than anything.

[NebraskaRed]

Garrett comes in and immediately gives up a single and HBP

[DocRed]

Stupid as* mother f**king umpires!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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You're an idiot if you think the league doesn't need robot umpires...

[Rantly]

Blind a** mother f*cing umpires!!!

Are we allowed masked profanity now moderators?

[NebraskaRed]

Garrett's second half has been horrible.

[BluegrassRedleg]

Talk about a guy who has fallen off a cliff.

[DocRed]

Garrett has been ****IN*G garbage since the Brawl.....FACT

[Ironman92]

Not good Amir

[Ironman92]

Barnhart saved a nightmare inning. Peraza a bad throw

[Tracy Jones]

That was poor Peraza. Barnhart saved your ...

[BluegrassRedleg]

Holy cow. They retired Ian F. Happ.

[BluegrassRedleg]

And Zobrist follows with an accidental hit. Geez. Exit velo 17 mph.

[Tracy Jones]

Holy cow. They retired Ian F. Happ.

But not Zobrist

[DocRed]

Barnhart saved a nightmare inning. Peraza a bad throw

Peraza lazy throw...bye bye

[Ironman92]

Why so far in with 2 outs?

[DocRed]

**** offense..game over

[Ironman92]

Lol at the ump [emoji23]

[DocRed]

Jeff Nelson should be tarred and feathered

[Ironman92]

Suarez called that pitch a strike and 4 inches lower was Ervin’s that he called a ball

[Kc61]

Was a winnable game until the Garrett outing.

Amir has struggled for awhile now. Not sure why he needed to pitch there.

[Ironman92]

Welsh fooled

[Ron Madden]

Was a winnable game until the Garrett outing.

Amir has struggled for awhile now. Not sure why he needed to pitch there.

It's still a winnable game.

[BluegrassRedleg]

* oops. posted that about 20 minutes ago on the Suarez AB. it just now showed up. *:p

[Kc61]

It's still a winnable game.

I meant by the Reds.

[Fil3232]

Pitching change has Thom defeated. Lol. Hope Bell makes 10 more.

[50YrRedsFan]

This one is over.

[Redsfan6272]

Just sucks that this team this month is playing with zero to prove, zero chip on their shoulder, zero focus to win. And that is somehow going to change in the off season??? No accountability, and a Manager that thinks his team is close to getting over the hump of losing!!! Im rolling my eyes and not drinking the kool-aid. Like to see the beat writers question the heart of this team that has no leadership that is sick of the losing!!

[texasdave]

With 3 more Reds outs, Cincinnati will officially be eliminated from the playoffs.

[50YrRedsFan]

With 3 more Reds outs, Cincinnati will officially be eliminated from the playoffs.

Reds were done by April 10.

[BCubb2003]

This is autumn training. Which is not the same as fall ball.

[Redsfan6272]

Reds were done by April 10.

Done since 2013!! And another year with no playoffs.

[50YrRedsFan]

If they play the final games like this, they may hit 90 losses.

[Redsfan6272]

If they loose the remaing 11 games, how can they say with a straight face Bell is still thier guy to lead them after 6 years above .500?????

[50YrRedsFan]

If they loose the remaing 11 games, how can they say with a straight face Bell is still thier guy to lead them after 6 years above .500?????

you mean below .500

[Fil3232]

Another pitching change! Yes! Thom has to do his job a bit longer.

[Redsfan6272]

you mean below .500

I meant to say after 6 years to get them above .500

[50YrRedsFan]

Reds with 11 left on base. Efficiency

[Ron Madden]

Box Score

https://www.mlb.com/gameday/reds-vs-cubs/2019/09/16/565198#game_state=final,lock_state=final,game_tab= box,game=565198

[Kinsm]

With 3 more Reds outs, Cincinnati will officially be eliminated from the playoffs.

With one more loss the city of Cincinnati will have officially endured yet another losing season by our lovable mlb club.

That will make 17 losing seasons in the last 22 years (since MLB expanded to 30 clubs in 1998).

[Redsfan6272]

With one more loss the city of Cincinnati will have officially endured yet another losing season by our lovable mlb club.

That will make 17 losing seasons in the last 22 years (since MLB expanded to 30 clubs in 1998).

And an ownership that is okay with it untill nobody shows up at the stadium

[Umkubas]

Thanks to Rogers Sportsnet for showing the NBC Sportsnet broadcast of the Cubs game last night.

Rare to see the Cincinnati Reds in Eastern Canada.

Made it through 5 and 1/2 innings before “Sleepy Time Time” came calling.

Great to see Blandino.

GO STANFORD CARDINAL BASEBALL

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LOSS 81

[REDREAD]

Why? That's exactly where he should be. With this bullpen we don't need Lorenzen getting hurt playing in some carnival game in CF.

It's simply unrealistic for us fans to think he can hit well over a large sample size with so little time actually given to the act.

Agreed, I love the Reds, but I hope Lorenzen never gets a hit again.
A worst case scenario is that Lorenzen hits well over the last 2 weeks and the Reds are deluded into thinking he's a solid OF.
This is one of the dumbest "experiments" I have ever seen.
Sure, in a pinch, put him in the OF, just like Farmer can be used to catch in a pinch.
But it's dumb to give Lorenzen starts. Both Ervin and O'Grady are likely going to be better hitters than he is.. Give them the playing time.