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Ron Madden
09-25-2019, 12:02 PM
Reds
1. VanMeter LF
2. Votto 1B
3. Suarez 3B
4. Aquino RF
5. Barnhart C
6. Iglesias SS
7. Ervin CF
8. Peraza 2B
9. Mahle P

Brewers
1. Grisham Rf
2. Grandal C
3. Moustakas 3B
4. Hiura 2B
5. Braun LF
6. Thames 1B
7. Cain CF
8. Spangenberg SS
9. Lyles P

Fil3232
09-25-2019, 01:06 PM
I hate complaining about lineups but I also hate the Barnhart/Iglesias 5-6 combo, so I'm sort of stuck here...

Sea Ray
09-25-2019, 03:41 PM
Barnhart actually does very well hitting 8th and the challenges that go along with that. I wish David Bell saw it that way

Ron Madden
09-25-2019, 03:42 PM
The Brewers lineup has been added to the original post.

Ron Madden
09-25-2019, 04:00 PM
Mark Sheldon
@m_sheldon

12m
Sonny Gray had arthroscopic right elbow surgery today to remove loose bodies that he’s pitched with all season. It’s not expected to affect his off-season routine. #reds

Sea Ray
09-25-2019, 04:06 PM
Mark Sheldon
@m_sheldon

12m
Sonny Gray had arthroscopic right elbow surgery today to remove loose bodies that he’s pitched with all season. It’s not expected to affect his off-season routine. #reds

Wow. That didn't take long.

mhs95_06
09-25-2019, 05:19 PM
Mark Sheldon
@m_sheldon

12m
Sonny Gray had arthroscopic right elbow surgery today to remove loose bodies that heís pitched with all season. Itís not expected to affect his off-season routine. #reds

Is that why he was scheduled not to start Sunday? To not cut into the off-season for either the player or the surgeon! If he didn't get his 200th K last night, were they going to postpone the surgery until after he pitched Sunday?

Kc61
09-25-2019, 05:23 PM
Barnhart actually does very well hitting 8th and the challenges that go along with that. I wish David Bell saw it that way

The current group including injuries, illnesses, etc. has a number of eighth place hitters.

Tonight’s order with Ervin/Peraza hitting 7 and 8 is among the better lineups of late. But still a number of eighth place hitters.

They just have a weak lineup, which is now depleted, once you get beyond the top few guys.

Ron Madden
09-25-2019, 05:26 PM
Is that why he was scheduled not to start Sunday? To not cut into the off-season for either the player or the surgeon! If he didn't get his 200th K last night, were they going to postpone the surgery until after he pitched Sunday?

No, David Bell announced before last nights game that it would be Sonnys last start this season

Kc61
09-25-2019, 05:26 PM
Is that why he was scheduled not to start Sunday? To not cut into the off-season for either the player or the surgeon! If he didn't get his 200th K last night, were they going to postpone the surgery until after he pitched Sunday?

During the game Reds’ announcers said Gray would not pitch Sunday. It’ll be a bullpen day. That was already set. I don’t recall the surgery being mentioned, however.

mhs95_06
09-25-2019, 06:13 PM
No, David Bell announced before last nights game that it would be Sonnys last start this season

I'm sure Bell knew last night that the surgery was scheduled for today. Those "loose bodies" didn't just show up last night!

JaxRed
09-25-2019, 06:31 PM
Really intrigued by the Mahle start tonight. Welsh seemed to indicate that he was pitching differently (not just better) last time out. He turned in his best start of the year. The Wild Eyed Optimist in me is thinking that Derek Johnson cooked up a strategy for him. It could turn out to be just a random good start. That's why I want to see a good performance to close out the year for Mahle.

NebraskaRed
09-25-2019, 06:49 PM
listening to Marty and Thom broadcast together. That's nice that they get to do this.

redswin
09-25-2019, 06:51 PM
Yikes

JaxRed
09-25-2019, 06:52 PM
Really intrigued by the Mahle start tonight. Welsh seemed to indicate that he was pitching differently (not just better) last time out. He turned in his best start of the year. The Wild Eyed Optimist in me is thinking that Derek Johnson cooked up a strategy for him. It could turn out to be just a random good start. That's why I want to see a good performance to close out the year for Mahle.

Oh well.....

NebraskaRed
09-25-2019, 06:52 PM
Thom not-so-subtle about slamming Votto. Pointing out that Braun is about the same age as Votto and then says "but he still has a lot of life in that bat"

757690
09-25-2019, 06:52 PM
Cards are losing 9-5 in Arizona currently.

I can see the Brewers coming back and winning the NL Central title.

JaxRed
09-25-2019, 06:53 PM
Oh well..... (Part 2)

RedseatHR
09-25-2019, 06:53 PM
Thom just took a jab at Votto saying that Braun started as the same time as him but it doesn’t look it. I guess Thom ignores PEDs

Ron Madden
09-25-2019, 06:54 PM
Thom not-so-subtle about slamming Votto. Pointing out that Braun is about the same age as Votto and then says "but he still has a lot of life in that bat"

I heard that too, sounded a little bitter

Big Klu
09-25-2019, 06:54 PM
Game over.

NebraskaRed
09-25-2019, 06:55 PM
100% support also saying bye to Thom as soon as the game ends tomorrow. Let them both leave together.

RedseatHR
09-25-2019, 06:59 PM
Got a bad feeling we’ve already heard the last “this one belongs to the Reds”

NebraskaRed
09-25-2019, 07:01 PM
Thom just took a jab at Votto saying that Braun started as the same time as him but it doesn’t look it. I guess Thom ignores PEDs

Thom only cares about what someone is doing right this second in front of him. Ignore career numbers. Ignore PEDs. "Braun hit a home run. Braun is better than Votto"

adkindo
09-25-2019, 07:05 PM
how many innings will Peraza pitch tonight?

North
09-25-2019, 07:05 PM
Wheel...of...Fortune.

Ron Madden
09-25-2019, 07:06 PM
The Great BamGeno!!!

NebraskaRed
09-25-2019, 07:07 PM
Geno!!

adkindo
09-25-2019, 07:07 PM
as soon as he said 2 off the lead, I just knew what was about to happen

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with the George Michael earring

Big Klu
09-25-2019, 07:08 PM
Updated Reds HR list (players in italics are active):

Reds 100-Home Run Club
1. Johnny Bench - 389
2. Frank Robinson - 324
3. Tony Perez - 287
4. Joey Votto - 284
5. Adam Dunn - 270
6. Ted Kluszewski - 251
7. George Foster - 244
8. Jay Bruce - 233
9. Ken Griffey, Jr. - 210
10. Eric Davis - 203
11. Barry Larkin - 198
12. Brandon Phillips - 191
13. Vada Pinson - 186
14. Wally Post - 172
15. Gus Bell - 160
16. Joe Morgan - 152
16. Pete Rose - 152
18. Lee May - 147
19. Eugenio Suarez - 143
20. Dan Driessen - 133
21. Reggie Sanders - 125
22. Ernie Lombardi - 120
23. Sean Casey - 118
24. Frank McCormick - 110
25. Todd Frazier - 108
26. Dave Parker - 107
27. Chris Sabo - 104
28. Dave Concepcion - 101

Kc61
09-25-2019, 07:10 PM
Hope Suarez gets number 50 and then Reds walk off the field into the sunset.

The end of this season canít get here fast enough.

It was entertaining for awhile, they improved, but enough of this.

RedseatHR
09-25-2019, 07:10 PM
Thom only cares about what someone is doing right this second in front of him. Ignore career numbers. Ignore PEDs. "Braun hit a home run. Braun is better than Votto"

(Laughing......crying......thinking Thom is here for decades)

BluegrassRedleg
09-25-2019, 07:14 PM
Nice location, bro.

NebraskaRed
09-25-2019, 07:14 PM
I'm starting to think that Mahle isn't having a good night

JaxRed
09-25-2019, 07:15 PM
Oh well (Part 3)

HokieRed
09-25-2019, 07:19 PM
Can't take 2020 seriously if Mahle is to be part of the rotation. Sorry to say that. I had great hope for him. Just not going to happen.

NebraskaRed
09-25-2019, 07:19 PM
Reporter: "Why leave Mahle in for a second inning after giving up 6 runs in the first?"

Bell: "[inaudible] develop [inaudible] kid [inaudible] bleak...pointless [inaudible] but Geno [inaudible]"

Jomama
09-25-2019, 07:20 PM
The dumpster fire continues...next year will be no different.

DocRed
09-25-2019, 07:21 PM
I've never thought Mahle was a lock for the rotation next year....let's hope the Reds realize that and go into the FA market to get a better SP because there a ton of them available next year.

BluegrassRedleg
09-25-2019, 07:24 PM
He's off the bag. Not even close.

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Ridiculous. Such a fail, MLB replay.

JaxRed
09-25-2019, 07:26 PM
Thought it was too close

NebraskaRed
09-25-2019, 07:28 PM
According to Thom, you don't hear much about Moustakas, a player who has gone to the ASG 3 of the past 5 years.

NebraskaRed
09-25-2019, 07:33 PM
I don't think that Jose Iglesias is a Red next year.

Coopdaddy67
09-25-2019, 07:38 PM
I don't think that Jose Iglesias is a Red next year.

If it's in a bench role, I'd be fine with him returning. If he's resigned and penciled in as the starting SS, that's a big problem.

DocRed
09-25-2019, 07:39 PM
You know you stink when you get pulled for Keury Mella....

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If it's in a bench role, I'd be fine with him returning. If he's resigned and penciled in as the starting SS, that's a big problem.

$4M for a bench player? No thanks...

NebraskaRed
09-25-2019, 07:46 PM
To the surprise of everyone, Mella did not git a hit.

Coopdaddy67
09-25-2019, 07:47 PM
$4M for a bench player? No thanks...

$4 million is nothing in the grand scheme of things and they should have significant payroll flexibility.

Non-tendering Peraza can account for that alone.

Ron Madden
09-25-2019, 07:55 PM
My daughter just brought our tickets for tomorrows game for my wife and I, section 111 row K.

Rantly
09-25-2019, 08:04 PM
Marty looks darn good for 77.

WVRedsFan
09-25-2019, 08:05 PM
I'm starting to think that Mahle isn't having a good night

It mystifies me why they keep trotting him out he has been horrible since he came up. ERA mow 5.34. I'm shocked it's not higher.

Rantly
09-25-2019, 08:08 PM
It mystifies me why they keep trotting him out he has been horrible since he came up. ERA mow 5.34. I'm shocked it's not higher.
His ERA was in the 4s before game I think, sadly in this day not a horrible ERA for 5th starter.

malcontent
09-25-2019, 08:12 PM
It mystifies me why they keep trotting him out he has been horrible since he came up. ERA mow 5.34. I'm shocked it's not higher.
Remember when we had such high hopes for the kid? But look, Keury Mella is here to win the Reds the Mike Leake trade.

Ron Madden
09-25-2019, 08:14 PM
Mahle is still young, I don't think I'd write him off just yet.

WVRedsFan
09-25-2019, 08:20 PM
Mahle is still young, I don't think I'd write him off just yet.

He is only24, so there is hope. He was so good in 2017. Something has happened to him.

Ron Madden
09-25-2019, 08:22 PM
Brewers 8
Reds 2
After 5 innings

Coopdaddy67
09-25-2019, 08:24 PM
Mahle is still young, I don't think I'd write him off just yet.

I look toward moving him to the bullpen next Spring. He's got decent stuff and his fastball should only get better if he's used in that role.

Ron Madden
09-25-2019, 08:26 PM
Alonso has hit #51 for the Mets.

malcontent
09-25-2019, 08:27 PM
Reds should re-sign Scooter Gennett to start at 2B. His market value couldn't be any lower, and he's loads better than anyone they've been running out there.

Plus, I think the clubhouse misses him. But of course they won't.

Big Klu
09-25-2019, 08:28 PM
1-4-yessiree-3!

Ron Madden
09-25-2019, 08:28 PM
1-4-3 double play

Strikes Out Looking
09-25-2019, 08:36 PM
While I didn't expect the Reds to make the playoffs this year, I also didn't think they'd curl up and die.

Coopdaddy67
09-25-2019, 08:44 PM
Reds should re-sign Scooter Gennett to start at 2B. His market value couldn't be any lower, and he's loads better than anyone they've been running out there.

Plus, I think the clubhouse misses him. But of course they won't.

He can't stay healthy and he was terrible when he was on the field this season.

50YrRedsFan
09-25-2019, 08:51 PM
Reds with 3 hits through 6. Offense in high gear. And they call this a major league team.

malcontent
09-25-2019, 08:51 PM
He can't stay healthy and he was terrible when he was on the field this season.
He hasn't missed much time during his career. And he might have come back too soon this year.

If he gets 100% healthy, he's a good bet to be the player he was the previous two years, IMO.

RedseatHR
09-25-2019, 08:55 PM
Marty’s speaking the truth on Mahle.

malcontent
09-25-2019, 09:05 PM
Marty’s speaking the truth on Mahle.
What's that?

Mutaman
09-25-2019, 09:07 PM
It was entertaining for awhile, they improved, but enough of this.

Put an amen to it. 15310

Tony Cloninger
09-25-2019, 09:09 PM
While I didn't expect the Reds to make the playoffs this year, I also didn't think they'd curl up and die.

I’ve been told I have gaslighted people here who have been overly or over the top critical of the team this year.
Since I’m not a BBQ man or griller of much repute I disagree with that. However I can agree now that in these last few weeks or about a month. They look like they are just mentally worn out or just have packed it In. Or they really do suck this bad.

WVRedsFan
09-25-2019, 09:12 PM
I’ve been told I have gaslighted people here who have been overly or over the top critical of the team this year.
Since I’m not a BBQ man or griller of much repute I disagree with that. However I can agree now that in these last few weeks or about a month. They look like they are just mentally worn out or just have packed it In. Or they really do suck this bad.I agree. They look spent. No life at all.

adkindo
09-25-2019, 09:13 PM
they should have more respect for the uniform they wear that to just go through the motions the way they clearly have recently

RedseatHR
09-25-2019, 09:13 PM
What's that?

Just that he’s going to need to show more next season to justify the talk that he should be penciled in for the fifth spot in the rotation. Never said he couldn’t just said we need more

Big Klu
09-25-2019, 09:13 PM
Put an amen to it. 15310

"Shall we gather at the river..."

Big Klu
09-25-2019, 09:17 PM
6-4-yessiree-3!

malcontent
09-25-2019, 09:19 PM
Or they really do suck this bad.
I still think they could have given the Clippers fits in the IL playoffs.

adkindo
09-25-2019, 09:25 PM
thinking we are probably going to need to find a right fielder next year

WVRedsFan
09-25-2019, 09:42 PM
Lorenzen ends the season (unless he plays tomorrow) at .195.

Mutaman
09-25-2019, 09:43 PM
"Shall we gather at the river..."

Ford played that song in 7 of his movies.
Also was being sung by the Temperance Society while Pike and the boys were robbing the bank at the beginning of The Wild bunch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Quu4ZB25LCg

Ron Madden
09-25-2019, 09:44 PM
Box Score

https://www.mlb.com/gameday/brewers-vs-reds/2019/09/25/565299#game_state=live,game_tab=,game=565299

Rantly
09-25-2019, 10:04 PM
thinking we are probably going to need to find a right fielder next year

Yea, Aquino seems to be a mystery at this point. Iíd like to think heís done enough to at least earn the nod as a starter next year but might be good to have a backup plan.

JohnnyRed
09-25-2019, 10:15 PM
Couldn't play upset, it is what it is. Good for the Crew

Big Klu
09-25-2019, 10:54 PM
Ford played that song in 7 of his movies.
Also was being sung by the Temperance Society while Pike and the boys were robbing the bank at the beginning of The Wild bunch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Quu4ZB25LCg

It was John Ford's favorite hymn.

North
09-26-2019, 12:35 AM
It was John Ford's favorite hymn.

Tennessee Ernie Ford. :thumbup:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIfu2A0ezq0

Umkubas
09-26-2019, 02:23 AM
LOSS 85

cumberlandreds
09-26-2019, 08:18 AM
I listened to the first couple of innings last night. I caught Thom's rip on Votto after Braun's HR. I really hope Thom goes out with is dad. He is just isn't a good baseball broadcaster and think way too much of his own opinions. Just go away and do football or maybe pick up some college broadcasting job elsewhere.

I'm afraid the Reds have just mailed in the rest of the season. With Brewers still very much alive for the NL Central they are still going to give a big effort today despite clinching a playoff berth last night. Probably everyone associated with the Reds will just walk through the games this weekend in Pittsburgh and be ready to jump on that plane out of town Sunday evening. Just a bad ending to a season that looked like it might lead into something good next year. Now I'm not so sure.