2019-2020 Buckeye Basketball Thread - The Carton Way

[goreds2]

Nice win against #10 Villanova last night. Let the conversation begin!

[BuckeyeRed27]

Want to give Chris Holtmann his due. Guy has been note perfect from day 1 and got this team back to playing at a high level very very quickly.

As for this season I’ve watched the UC and Villanova games. Team plays very good defense and is very deep. The guard play with Carton and Walker has elite potential. There are four guys that can create their own shot and score. Wesson is going to cause problems for most college teams. I don’t know if they can make a meal out of it, but lots of tasty ingredients.

[Assembly Hall]

As of now I say that tOSU is the best team in the B1G.

[goreds2]

# 10th ranked Buckeyes still undefeated. Their next game against a ranked opponent is on 12/4/19 at #5 North Carolina.

ESPN on a Wednesday and of course at 9:30pm est.

[goreds2]

# 10th ranked Buckeyes still undefeated. Their next game against a ranked opponent is on 12/4/19 at #5 North Carolina.

ESPN on a Wednesday and of course at 9:30pm est. Hoping we can be in the game till the end and steal a win!

[oregonred]

Buckeye beat down of UNC in Chapel Hill :beerme:

[BuckeyeRed27]

That’s a couple blow outs of good names if not good teams so far.

[goreds2]

I just watched the last 5 minutes on DVR. Cool win or sure!! Bring on UK dec. 21st !

[Redsfaithful]

Have to feel really good about the defense so far. That'll play well in March.

[RiverRat13]

Ohio State is destroying a Penn State team that is in the KenPom top 25.

[BuckeyeRed27]

Ohio State is destroying a Penn State team that is in the KenPom top 25.

It was an 8 point game and I flipped it over to the Big 12 game. Flipped back about 8-10 minutes later and they were up 28!

[Redsfaithful]

So uh, how about a championship year in both football and basketball?

[goreds2]

Ohio State Basketball team now #3 in the nation. :beerme:

[Danny Serafini]

#2 in the coaches poll

[goreds2]

Buckeyes lose their first of the season tonight.

[BuckeyeRed27]

Buckeyes lose their first of the season tonight.

They didn’t look too bad, but that Carr kid from Minnesota played out of his mind and OSU couldn’t level him out.

[bucksfan2]

They didn’t look too bad, but that Carr kid from Minnesota played out of his mind and OSU couldn’t level him out.

Dude had a game where everything he threw up went in. Honestly it was just one of those nights you have throughout the season, where one player just goes off, and there isn't much you can do.

I thought there were some curious calls, but those tend to happen from time to time. It was a tough physical game in which Minnesota tended to get the breaks.

Oh well, OSU is good, I don't think they are #1 good.

[RiverRat13]

What a weak 5th foul call on Kaleb Wesson. Cal's constant whining paid off.

[RiverRat13]

Solid win for OSU.

[goreds2]

I cannot believe how quite this thread is as the BASKETBALL Buckeyes are in the top 5 and moving up. Oh well,

D.J. Carton got 15 points and five rebounds off the bench in Saturday's 71-65 victory over Kentucky. The Buckeyes own four wins over top-40 KenPom teams.

[bucksfan2]

OSU is far from the most talented team in the nation, but that doesn't mean they can't be the best.

Holtmann is a master when it comes to a game plan. He tends to give OSU an game plan advantage for every game.

They defend, hard, very hard. They make it difficult on the opposing team without fouling all that much.

I think their biggest flaw may be the lack of outside shooting. If Washington isn't on, they can struggle from deep, allowing teams to collapse around Wesson and make it difficult.

[adkindo]

I have been watching clips and looking at the numbers the last couple days to see how WVU matches up against Ohio State. They may be more similar than they are different. I actually might describe Ohio State as a little better version of WVU in that they are both deep, long and athletic....and in most games it gives them an advantage. Ohio State clearly is a better shooting team and relies a little more on the 3 pointer than WVU most nights. Both teams rebound well and turn the ball over too much. As I said, in most area's it feels like Ohio State is slightly to moderately better....and the only clear advantages I see for WVU is on the offensive boards and Ohio State does not seem to get many steals which I would not have expected. Just some initial thoughts.

[goreds2]

Tough loss to #22 West Virginia yesterday.

[oregonred]

Outhustled tonight by Wisconsin

Missing Kyle Young hurts especially vs. the Badgers but that is a bad conf loss at home by Holtmann

[RedTeamGo!]

Not good Bob

[BuckeyeRed27]

I haven’t been able to watch the last couple games, so hopefully it’s just been bad games and teams adjusting to OSU. Would be good to get healthy too.

[goreds2]

We have not won since beating Kentucky on 12/21/19

[RedTeamGo!]

OSU lacks an elite scorer.

[bucksfan2]

OSU lacks an elite scorer.

That may be true. Their shooting is rough right now. They just can't make a shot to save their lives. They will bounce back, but I do think a lot of it rides on Washington playing well again.

[adkindo]

That may be true. Their shooting is rough right now. They just can't make a shot to save their lives. They will bounce back, but I do think a lot of it rides on Washington playing well again.

an outsiders thoughts....their entire scheme seems built around Kaleb Wesson, but he is not the most talented player or at least much more talented than 3 or 4 guys. I think the offense would work better if it ran more through the perimeter talent and maybe more motion based in search of the best shot opportunity. Keleb Wesson is a good college player, but there is higher end next level talent on the roster that often appear almost forced to operate as a piece in his shadow.

[Assembly Hall]

https://www.thelantern.com/2020/01/ohio-state-mens-basketball-indiana-matchup-a-chance-to-stop-the-bleeding-for-no-11-ohio-state/

[goreds2]

Game currently FOX with 4 min remaining.

[Assembly Hall]

I love the "Carton Way", better luck next time Buckeye fans...

[Redsfaithful]

Oh no, we suck!

Hope they can get it turned around in the next two months, they've flashed at times so it's in there somewhere.

[Assembly Hall]

Carton has "regressed". The kid plays out of control.

[BuckeyeRed27]

Carton has "regressed". The kid plays out of control.

I think regressed is the wrong word, he’s definitely playing like a freshman though. Very inconsistent and obviously the turn overs are killer.

I’m not sure what Holtmann is trying to prove with what he did with Washington yesterday.

[Assembly Hall]

I think regressed is the wrong word, he’s definitely playing like a freshman though. Very inconsistent and obviously the turn overs are killer.

I’m not sure what Holtmann is trying to prove with what he did with Washington yesterday.

Yeah, what was the deal with Washington?

[bucksfan2]

Yeah, what was the deal with Washington?

Don't know. Washington hasn't been the same player since he missed a few games with a rib injury. I think he is their most important player right now. They need a consistent outside scorer. Washington, Walker, Andre Wesson, and Carton has shown the ability to, but now it seems like they are all in a slump.

Their schedule this year has been brutal, and right now they are mired in a terrible slump. They 'should' get things turned around, but in this stretch of games, the only game they shouldn't have lost was to Wisconsin. The B1G will be a bloodbath this season, lot of good talent, and lot of competitive teams in the middle of the pack. Heck Rutgers just knocked off MSU.

[Assembly Hall]

Don't know. Washington hasn't been the same player since he missed a few games with a rib injury. I think he is their most important player right now. They need a consistent outside scorer. Washington, Walker, Andre Wesson, and Carton has shown the ability to, but now it seems like they are all in a slump.

Their schedule this year has been brutal, and right now they are mired in a terrible slump. They 'should' get things turned around, but in this stretch of games, the only game they shouldn't have lost was to Wisconsin. The B1G will be a bloodbath this season, lot of good talent, and lot of competitive teams in the middle of the pack. Heck Rutgers just knocked off MSU.

TY...btw, Purdue is the one that just kicked Sparty's ass.

[bucksfan2]

TY...btw, Purdue is the one that just kicked Sparty's ass.

Rutgers beat PSU right?

[Assembly Hall]

Rutgers beat PSU right?

Yes, on the 7th I believe, but then turned around and got beat by Illinois.

Conference is stacked.

[Assembly Hall]

Any word on as to why the Bucks 2 players got suspended?

[Assembly Hall]

Surprised Buck fans haven't talked about Carton. Oh well, I guess spring football practice is more important.

P.S.---Hope D.J. pulls though this.

[adkindo]

Surprised Buck fans haven't talked about Carton. Oh well, I guess spring football practice is more important.

P.S.---Hope D.J. pulls though this.

Do you know anything specific he is going through.....or just general issues?

[Assembly Hall]

Do you know anything specific he is going through.....or just general issues?

I have not heard or seen anything. Lots of speculation is it.

[goreds2]

Bucks win at Michigan 61-58. Always Sweet in any sport!

[BuckeyeRed27]

Makes up for the home Wisconsin loss a bit.

Still was an ugly game offensively.

[Redsfaithful]

Real Jekyll & Hyde team, hopefully they can make the tournament because they can play with almost anyone. Could easily be a team that gets hot for a couple of weeks.

[Assembly Hall]

Looks like the Bucks have righted the ship.

[BuckeyeRed27]

Looks like the Bucks have righted the ship.

Kind of. They played a soft part of their schedule. They still have a lot of struggles of offense and can’t generate open shots well and miss a lot of the ones they do get.

[WVRed]

Just saw Carton is transferring. What’s going on there?

[Assembly Hall]

Just saw Carton is transferring. What’s going on there?

Good question and a head scratcher for sure. If he ends up at an Iowa school, I would say that he was homesick.