2019 NFL Season Part 2

[Boss-Hog]

We were well over 1,000 posts in the previous thread, so please use this for continued discussion.

[Sea Ray]

Additionally is the whisper we've heard that maybe Lewis is a Dallas target not as the Cowboys' head coach, but rather as a defensive coordinator who would serve as the right-hand man - maybe even as the "assistant head coach'' of a new Dallas head coach who would benefit from the 61-year-old Lewis' vast experience.

This doesn't sound like much to me. I seriously doubt Jerry was shopping coordinators before he had his head coach. If it's true then it means Marvin wasn't even interviewed for the Dallas Head coach job.

[Tom Servo]

Panthers hiring Matt Rhule. Of the names listed in their search he was the one I was most interested in, so I'm glad they got it done.

[Boston Red]

Poor Baylor. Wait, no....actually, screw them. Only better if it had been Penn State losing their coach.

[WVRed]

I just wonder if Clappy goes to the Giants now.

[Sea Ray]

Panthers hiring Matt Rhule. Of the names listed in their search he was the one I was most interested in, so I'm glad they got it done.

What happened with the Giants? Any word on why he didn't go there?

[WVRed]

Joe Judge to the Giants

Sucks for Mississippi State. Have to think the Browns will go with McDaniels.

Judge is also looking at Clappy as OC. Kinda thought Garrett would have gotten the head gig.

[Tom Servo]

What happened with the Giants? Any word on why he didn't go there?
Panthers ownership didn't let him let him get on the plane to New York, they wanted him and got him.

[Assembly Hall]

Panthers hiring Matt Rhule. Of the names listed in their search he was the one I was most interested in, so I'm glad they got it done.

Was Fitzgerald on their list?

[Tom Servo]

Was Fitzgerald on their list?
Not that I saw. It was Rhule, Mike McCarthy, Josh McDaniels, Eric Bieniemy, Kevin Stefanski, and Perry Fewell.

[Sea Ray]

Joe Judge to the Giants

Sucks for Mississippi State. Have to think the Browns will go with McDaniels.

Judge is also looking at Clappy as OC. Kinda thought Garrett would have gotten the head gig.

Clappy as OC? I'd think he'd be DC if anything

[WVRed]

Clappy as OC? I'd think he'd be DC if anything

Jason Garrett was offensive coordinator and QB coach for Dallas before getting the head coaching job.

[Boston Red]

Jason Garrett is Clappy? Just trying to figure out the code.

[WVRed]

Jason Garrett is Clappy? Just trying to figure out the code.

I figured the constant clapping on the sideline would be a dead giveaway. [emoji846]

[Sea Ray]

Jason Garrett is Clappy? Just trying to figure out the code.

My confusion as well. I thought it was code for Marvin Lewis

[redsfanmia]

My confusion as well. I thought it was code for Marvin Lewis

I thought he was talking about Tom Crean, was wondering why he would switch sports.

[Bob Sheed]

My confusion as well. I thought it was code for Marvin Lewis

I thought people here were making it up when I read that Marvin Lewis was insisting that Hue Jackson was a package deal if anyone planned on hiring him as a HC.

But sure enough... he actually said that.

So yeah, pretty sure you can cross off Marvin Lewis from ever being a HC again, at any level.

And as a sidenote, how dumb is that? I mean, just say "I need to pick my own staff." :rolleyes:

[WVRed]

I thought people here were making it up when I read that Marvin Lewis was insisting that Hue Jackson was a package deal if anyone planned on hiring him as a HC.

But sure enough... he actually said that.

So yeah, pretty sure you can cross off Marvin Lewis from ever being a HC again, at any level.

And as a sidenote, how dumb is that? I mean, just say "I need to pick my own staff." :rolleyes:

According to Screamin A Smith, Marvin probably won’t get another job but for a completely different reason.

The Rooney Rule is essentially treated by the NFL the same as the iTunes terms and conditions.

[Bob Sheed]

According to Screamin A Smith, Marvin probably won’t get another job but for a completely different reason.

The Rooney Rule is essentially treated by the NFL the same as the iTunes terms and conditions.

Perhaps, but chaining himself to Hue Jackson is not how to make an NFL comeback.

[JaxRed]

Panthers just kept throwing money/years at Rhule till he said yes. Heck of a contract. Hope for them it works.

[RichRed]

The Redskins hired an old Bengals fan favorite, Ken Zampese, to be QB coach.

[KoryMac5]

Interesting article from a Saints blog...disclaimer the article is hypothetical.

https://www.canalstreetchronicles.com/2020/1/3/21048567/joe-burrow-trade-for-saints-could-be-costly-in-multiple-ways

Would you take 10 picks for Burrow?

[Sea Ray]

Interesting article from a Saints blog...disclaimer the article is hypothetical.

https://www.canalstreetchronicles.com/2020/1/3/21048567/joe-burrow-trade-for-saints-could-be-costly-in-multiple-ways

Would you take 10 picks for Burrow?

Clueless writer who's probably never even stepped foot in Ohio. He can;t even spell Cincinnati right:


...is there any way that the Saints, who hail from Joe Burrow’s new-home by adoption, steal the talented young prospect from the grip of the Cincinatti Bengals who hail from his original home of Ohio?

If we already had our QB, sure but seeing as how our need for QB is as great as anyone's the answer is no. This is our chance to get the QB of the next 15 yrs here in Cincinnati.

Actually the team I picture that'd be drooling for Joe Burrow is the NE Patriots. I'd think Belichick would move mountains for Burrow

[KoryMac5]

Clueless writer who's probably never even stepped foot in Ohio. He can;t even spell Cincinnati right:



If we already had our QB, sure but seeing as how our need for QB is as great as anyone's the answer is no. This is our chance to get the QB of the next 15 yrs here in Cincinnati.

Actually the team I picture that'd be drooling for Joe Burrow is the NE Patriots. I'd think Belichick would move mountains for Burrow

#1 he's not a writer it's a fan post on a blog...but I do think the Bengals will get offers for the #1 pick at some point which they should entertain.

Interesting you brought Belichick up Peter King think they may take a shot at Andy Dalton...

Read more at: https://nesn.com/2020/01/peter-king-believes-bill-belichick-would-like-to-work-with-this-veteran-qb/

[WrongVerb]

Interesting article from a Saints blog...disclaimer the article is hypothetical.

https://www.canalstreetchronicles.com/2020/1/3/21048567/joe-burrow-trade-for-saints-could-be-costly-in-multiple-ways

Would you take 10 picks for Burrow?

Drafttek website's trade values chart (https://www.drafttek.com/NFL-Trade-Value-Chart.asp?RequestTeam=no)

Not sure if this is the exact chart teams use on draft day, but it's probably a great approximation. According to this chart, the proposal for NO to trade up to get 1-1 from CIN is ridiculously low.

In no way should the Bengals trade out of the pick. Burrow is the franchise QB they've needed for a decade or more now. But going by the chart linked above, a fair deal would be if Miami offered 1-5, 1-18, 2-56, and 3-70 for the Bengals 1-1 and 4-97 picks.

If the Bengals ever considered that, they should draft Burrow and if Herbert is there at 5, only then make that deal. But again, they're morons if they don't draft and keep Burrow.

[Sea Ray]

#1 he's not a writer it's a fan post on a blog...but I do think the Bengals will get offers for the #1 pick at some point which they should entertain.

Interesting you brought Belichick up Peter King think they may take a shot at Andy Dalton...

Read more at: https://nesn.com/2020/01/peter-king-believes-bill-belichick-would-like-to-work-with-this-veteran-qb/

Why quibble on whether he's a writer? He's the writer of that blog and my point stands: he's clueless

[Sea Ray]

Drafttek website's trade values chart (https://www.drafttek.com/NFL-Trade-Value-Chart.asp?RequestTeam=no)

Not sure if this is the exact chart teams use on draft day, but it's probably a great approximation. According to this chart, the proposal for NO to trade up to get 1-1 from CIN is ridiculously low.

In no way should the Bengals trade out of the pick. Burrow is the franchise QB they've needed for a decade or more now. But going by the chart linked above, a fair deal would be if Miami offered 1-5, 1-18, 2-56, and 3-70 for the Bengals 1-1 and 4-97 picks.

If the Bengals ever considered that, they should draft Burrow and if Herbert is there at 5, only then make that deal. But again, they're morons if they don't draft and keep Burrow.

So in other words, NO doesn't have the draft capital to trade up that far. If they really want Burrow they'd have to include players

[North]

Andre Smith gets yet another gig...

https://www.al.com/sports/2020/01/andre-smith-returns-to-nfl-with-playoff-team.html

[Kingspoint]

Cannot think of better NFC Divisional matchups than what we got.

[KoryMac5]

Andre Smith gets yet another gig...

https://www.al.com/sports/2020/01/andre-smith-returns-to-nfl-with-playoff-team.html

Smith has had himself a nice 10 yr career and could possibly get a ring out of his latest deal...

[KoryMac5]

Why quibble on whether he's a writer? He's the writer of that blog and my point stands: he's clueless

You're not getting it...

The person writing the post is not a professional writer...he is not even the owner of the blog he is a fan. Some blogs allow fans to make posts and obviously they are not proofed. He wrote the post and Bengals twitter picked it up. I found it interesting so I posted it here. Sorry it did not meet your literary standards.

[Sea Ray]

Cannot think of better NFC Divisional matchups than what we got.

I think we'd have had better matchups if NO had won last week. I think Sea vs SF and GB vs NO would be much better than what we've got.

It does look like we've got a couple yawners in the AFC but hey, it is the NFL so we'll see

[Sea Ray]

You're not getting it...

The person writing the post is not a professional writer...he is not even the owner of the blog he is a fan. Some blogs allow fans to make posts and obviously they are not proofed. He wrote the post and Bengals twitter picked it up. I found it interesting so I posted it here. Sorry it did not meet your literary standards.

My standards? You apparently have standards for being a writer that I don't share. You and I are writers of a sort as this fan is. Sorry he doesn't meet your standards

[Kingspoint]

I think we'd have had better matchups if NO had won last week. I think Sea vs SF and GB vs NO would be much better than what we've got.

It does look like we've got a couple yawners in the AFC but hey, it is the NFL so we'll see

I like all four teams much better than NO. They are my four favorite in the NFC the last four-plus years. But, as a quality game, NO is good, too. I've been rooting for the Vikings to win the Super Bowl since Zimmer took over. Still am.

[North]

I like all four teams much better than NO. They are my four favorite in the NFC the last four-plus years. But, as a quality game, NO is good, too. I've been rooting for the Vikings to win the Super Bowl since Zimmer took over. Still am.

I'm with you regarding Zimmer.

[Sea Ray]

My guess is Minnesota goes down decisively this weekend

[Boston Red]

This is about as bad a start as possible for the Ravens. Will be interesting to see if they have the intestinal fortitude to come back.

[North]

BAL shoulda gone for the FG at the 10 minute mark in the 3rd...made it 14 - 9,but noooo.

[Hillsdale87]

BAL shoulda gone for the FG at the 10 minute mark in the 3rd...made it 14 - 9,but noooo.

Going for it was the right decision. Not sure about the play call though. They only needed 6 inches.




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[Hillsdale87]

That fumble from Lamar was a shockingly bad play. Casey grabbed him, Lamar stepped away from him, and then Lamar just took his time as if he completely forgot about Casey. Really bizarre


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[Boston Red]

The Ravens seemed to have hit the panic button when Lamar threw an INT on the first possession. Couldn't handle adversity.

[North]

Going for it was the right decision. Not sure about the play call though. They only needed 6 inches.




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No it wasn't. There was plenty of time left, and the fg would have made it a one - possession game.

[RedsBaron]

Stunning game.

[Todd Gack]

What are everyone’s thoughts on tomorrow’s games?

[Hillsdale87]

No it wasn't. There was plenty of time left, and the fg would have made it a one - possession game.

It was already a 1 possession game. They were down 8.

The odds of gaining 6 inches on that play are probably over 90%, especially with Lamar, and a TD is much more valuable than a FG. Going for it in situations like that is what the Ravens have done all year, and it's obviously gone well for them. Just hasn't worked today. Titans made a great play on the first one. I think Lamar screwed up the last one.


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[Boston Red]

If the Ravens can get a three and out here, never know...

[Todd Gack]

That was a FANTASTIC QB sneak by Tannehill. Textbook.

[kaldaniels]

Derrick Henry could attain legend status this postseason.

I’ve always said I don’t know why Alabama went away from him in that OSU-Bama playoff game.

[Todd Gack]

Did you guys see Lamar Jackson account for over 500 yards? Unbelievable!

[GAC]

Did you guys see Lamar Jackson account for over 500 yards? Unbelievable!

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/28467215/lamar-jackson-struggles-top-seeded-ravens-shocked-titans ...


Jackson wasn't sharp in throwing high and behind receivers against a Titans defense that rarely blitzed him.

He finished 21/59 passing for 365 yards with one touchdown and two interceptions. He threw the ball almost 60 times for an average of 6 yds/attempt, and completing only 1/3 of them. For the most part, that has been their passing game (attack) during the regular season. Not saying Jackson can't (and hasn't) thrown the ball downfield, but his accuracy dips, and that has been the knock on him.

Plus, Ingram was hurt, and they abandoned the run game in the second half, became pretty one dimensional. Uncharacteristic when you look at this team during the regular season.

And this morning everyone is now talking how this makes him 0-2 in the post-season, both first round exits, and that he has five turnovers. What could this mean? IMO, not much. Not at this stage of his young career. He's been in the league two years - and led his team to the post-season in both. A lot of QBs in the league would like to be in his shoes.

Jackson's a talent. And IMO, it's all about having the right offensive scheme (players) for him to excel, maximize his talents (while minimizing any weaknesses). The only concern most have with run-option QBs (other then in some areas of the passing game) is health/injury and beating they will take each and every week.

But when it comes to the AFC North, Cin/Clev are facing up against two organizations that, even if they go through some "regression" (aging players, etc), or fall short, their organizations will aggressively address those weaknesses not simply because they want to win - but know how to win. They don't "sit on their hands".

Could be interesting with three Heisman QBs in the AFC North.

[RedsBaron]

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/28467215/lamar-jackson-struggles-top-seeded-ravens-shocked-titans ...



He finished 21/59 passing for 365 yards with one touchdown and two interceptions. He threw the ball almost 60 times for an average of 6 yds/attempt, and completing only 1/3 of them. For the most part, that has been their passing game (attack) during the regular season. Not saying Jackson can't (and hasn't) thrown the ball downfield, but his accuracy dips, and that has been the knock on him.

Plus, Ingram was hurt, and they abandoned the run game in the second half, became pretty one dimensional. Uncharacteristic when you look at this team during the regular season.

And this morning everyone is now talking how this makes him 0-2 in the post-season, both first round exits, and that he has five turnovers. What could this mean? IMO, not much. Not at this stage of his young career. He's been in the league two years - and led his team to the post-season in both. A lot of QBs in the league would like to be in his shoes.



Could be interesting with three Heisman QBs in the AFC North.
Jackson actually completed 31 of his 59 passing attempts, which still isn't very good, and while watching the game it felt as if his passing percentage was less than that. Almost every time the Ravens threatened to get in the endzone, the Titans stopped them. Jackson had more than 500 combined yards, yet the Ravens only scored 12 points.
Jackson is still a remarkable QB, and I expect he will have many more chances.
Assuming the Bengals draft Burrow and RGIII remains a backup at Baltimore, there will be four Heisman QBs in the AFC North.

[Bob Sheed]

So, Jackson is basically Andy Dalton at this point.

[Todd Gack]

Pretty much everyone on the offensive side of the ball crapped the bed tonight for Baltimore and Tennessee executed their game plan. The puzzle pieces will start to come together next year in the NFL with this offense.

As for the game on Jackson's first INT, everyone wants to talk about how the receiver dropped it (it wasn't a perfect pass but prolly should've been caught), Jackson commits just a really, really dumb personal foul and you could see his night was going to be long. It was in his head from the beginning. Then on their first 4th and 1, Jackson, instead of following the guard, runs right into the back of the guard and gets stuffed. I don't even know what he was thinking. Just another dumb play.

And then, after the Titans go up 14-0, it was the possession of the night for Baltimore. They pass 3 times and go 3 and out! Inexcusable. Pretty much set the tone for the rest of the night with their play calling. Roman had a terrible night. Of course, Ingram was injured and so was Andrews. But then again, I TALKED ABOUT THIS ALL YEAR. Everything was perfectly lined up for Lamar this season with everyone healthy. And then they're not and Lamar has to pass more to win.

You can talk about the receivers dropping passes and rightfully so, but man how many wobbly ducks were thrown up too? Just awful, awful passes. Jackson was shook after that initial interception. And then the dumbest play of the night was his 4th and 1 "QB Sneak." Just incredibly stupid. His lack of intelligence really showed up tonight.

The real issue tonight was that Jackson passed 56 times. If that happens, Baltimore is always going to be toast, as will most teams.

[Todd Gack]

Interesting tweet.

NFL Research
@NFLResearch
Lamar Jackson in 5 NFL playoff or college bowl games:

• 1-4 record
• 10 touchdowns
• 10 giveaways

#TENvsBAL

[North]

It was already a 1 possession game. They were down 8.

The odds of gaining 6 inches on that play are probably over 90%, especially with Lamar, and a TD is much more valuable than a FG. Going for it in situations like that is what the Ravens have done all year, and it's obviously gone well for them. Just hasn't worked today. Titans made a great play on the first one. I think Lamar screwed up the last one.


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It certainly was an odd play...what was Jackson looking for with all that dancing? I think he wanted to score instead of just getting the conversion.

Yes, it would be one score with a two point conversion. But I think the two point try is being used too early in recent years. I am going to get points out of my drive - being behind 14 to 9 with 25 minutes left in the game isn't a terrible spot. Just a philosophical matter, I suppose. Tough for BAL that Henry took it for 60+ yards.

Congrats to TEN. Great year for BAL, too.

[BuckeyeRed27]

Holy crap this game!

[North]

Dee- fense! Dee - fense! :laugh:

[Todd Gack]

It certainly was an odd play...what was Jackson looking for with all that dancing? I think he wanted to score instead of just getting the conversion.

Yes, it would be one score with a two point conversion. But I think the two point try is being used too early in recent years. I am going to get points out of my drive - being behind 14 to 9 with 25 minutes left in the game isn't a terrible spot. Just a philosophical matter, I suppose. Tough for BAL that Henry took it for 60+ yards.

Congrats to TEN. Great year for BAL, too.

1) His sneak was just awful. Did he ever learn that the shortest distance between 2 points is a straight line?

2) I was screaming at the TV when they went for 2 instead of kicking the XP. YOU DON'T NEED A 2PT CONVERSION RIGHT NOW! Lengthen the game out as long as possible!

3) You're right. Tennessee deserves more credit. Great game plan.

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Holy crap this game!

The NFL is drunk this weekend.

[Boston Red]

I think the 2 point conversion call was the right one. If they got it, great. 2 TD game. Since they missed it, they were still two TDs and two 2 pointers away from tying. So if they scored three TDs, they had to miss 2 two pointers not to tie instead of just one.

[Assembly Hall]

Damn what a game between the Chefs and Oilers.

[Hillsdale87]

I think the 2 point conversion call was the right one. If they got it, great. 2 TD game. Since they missed it, they were still two TDs and two 2 pointers away from tying. So if they scored three TDs, they had to miss 2 two pointers not to tie instead of just one.

Right. If they had waited until the next TD and not converted, they would have been down 2 scores. As it ended up, it didn't matter since they didn't score again


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[Todd Gack]

Right. If they had waited until the next TD and not converted, they would have been down 2 scores. As it ended up, it didn't matter since they didn't score again


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Either way, they still only needed 1 2-point conversion. If you go for it that early, you risk turning it into a 4 possession game and not even giving yourself a chance at the end. Wait until your 3rd score to go for 2 that way you guarantee you only need 1 2-pt conversion.

[Todd Gack]

Can we also discuss how Michael Thomas is a buffoon? Not a good look for the guy.

[BuckeyeRed27]

Can we also discuss how Michael Thomas is a buffoon? Not a good look for the guy.

Yeah no reason for him to be doing that. The reporter was fairly respectful too.

[Hillsdale87]

I thought having to sign RBs off the street would force the Seahawks to focus the offense on their elite QB. But nope, focus on establishing Marshawn Lynch... It makes no sense


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[Hillsdale87]

Seahawks decision to leave Adams unguarded seems unwise, but we'll see how it works out


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[Hillsdale87]

And another huge, costly officiating mistake...


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[North]

I didn't think 12 men on the field was a pre-snap penalty...

[RedsBaron]

And another huge, costly officiating mistake...


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The referees blew a call early in the game when Seattle's tight end John Hollister fumbled and the refs missed the fumble and then replay review didn't fully correct the missed call.

[Hillsdale87]

What an awesome play by Rodgers and Adams


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[North]

I wonder if for money reasons, the NFL would prefer a Kansas City vs Green Bay Super Bowl? Stram, Dawson, Garrett, Taylor, Culp, Robinson vs. Lombardi, Starr, Gregg, Taylor, Adderley etc.

[adkindo]

Can we also discuss how Michael Thomas is a buffoon? Not a good look for the guy.

I need to know why he did not go with @Cantcovermike instead of @Cantguardmike? I have never heard a receiver claim you can't "guard" me? A little research suggests it was available when he joined in 2013, although it was taken in 2018 by a high school receiver. I thought maybe he was a big time basketball player in high school, but he was at Ohio State when he joined twitter. Just does not make sense to me....it would be like Chase Young selecting his twitter name to be @cantscreenme.

[adkindo]

Is there a reason that I am unaware of that got Jimmy Johnson into the Pro Football HOF with a career record of 84-60?

[kaldaniels]

Is there a reason that I am unaware of that got Jimmy Johnson into the Pro Football HOF with a career record of 84-60?

Well his 1-15 start to his career makes that record look less than stellar.

But the rule seems to be that if you are majorly involved in 2 Super Bowl wins in this era, you will at least be on the cusp of the HOF.

Heck, Pete Carroll has won one Super Bowl and I’d say he is close.

[adkindo]

Well his 1-15 start to his career makes that record look less than stellar.

But the rule seems to be that if you are majorly involved in 2 Super Bowl wins in this era, you will at least be on the cusp of the HOF.

Heck, Pete Carroll has won one Super Bowl and I’d say he is close.

seems very light to me

[Sea Ray]

Bill Cowher only has one Super Bowl win and he just got in

[Mutaman]

I wonder if for money reasons, the NFL would prefer a Kansas City vs Green Bay Super Bowl? Stram, Dawson, Garrett, Taylor, Culp, Robinson vs. Lombardi, Starr, Gregg, Taylor, Adderley etc.

Have already seen that game- it was not competitive. Chiefs were much bigger than GB in both lines but Packers had these really big, really athletic linebackers and a wonderful defensive backfield. Pack also had this incredible QB who kept throwing passes to this old man who had been out drinking the night before.

[Todd Gack]

Well his 1-15 start to his career makes that record look less than stellar.

But the rule seems to be that if you are majorly involved in 2 Super Bowl wins in this era, you will at least be on the cusp of the HOF.

Heck, Pete Carroll has won one Super Bowl and I’d say he is close.

Yup. Eli will unfortunately get in as well.

[GAC]

Jackson actually completed 31 of his 59 passing attempts, which still isn't very good

That was a typo I didn't catch. Thanks Randy LOL

The Ravens offensively are a young team. They'll be sticking around in a division where two of the four teams are fighting for relevancy and over how is going to finish last (LOL). Still the cockeyed optimist when it comes to the Browns (have talent, can they put it together?), and even the Bengals.... get key players healthy on the offensive side, have an A+ draft, and, IMO, you'll get a better view of whether Taylor is the guy to lead this team forward or not.

Big Ben will be healthy, says he will be better then ever. We'll see. It will definitely be a step up from the Steeler team I grew to know and love in '19 (LOL).

[GAC]

So, Jackson is basically Andy Dalton at this point.

I look at it this way ..... in his first two years in the league he TIED Andy Dalton (LOL)

[RedsBaron]

I wonder if for money reasons, the NFL would prefer a Kansas City vs Green Bay Super Bowl? Stram, Dawson, Garrett, Taylor, Culp, Robinson vs. Lombardi, Starr, Gregg, Taylor, Adderley etc.
I expect that State Farm would love a Chiefs-Packers Super Bowl. State Farm commercials already feature Patrick Mahomes and Aaron Rodgers.
Unfortunately, next Sunday the 49ers, whom I loathe, will probably defeat the Packers, whom I like.

[Sea Ray]

ESPN is considering offering Tony Romo upwards of $10mill/yr to leave CBS

https://sports.yahoo.com/report-espn-to-make-cbs-tony-romo-a-historic-offer-to-join-its-nfl-coverage-033157777.html

Who knew that there was more money in broadcasting than playing QB ? Romo's highest base salary for the Cowboys was $8mill

[dubc47834]

ESPN is considering offering Tony Romo upwards of $10mill/yr to leave CBS

https://sports.yahoo.com/report-espn-to-make-cbs-tony-romo-a-historic-offer-to-join-its-nfl-coverage-033157777.html

Who knew that there was more money in broadcasting than playing QB ? Romo's highest base salary for the Cowboys was $8mill

Romo is that damn good!

[texasdave]

Do sports fans tune into a game because of the announcers? For me, it has never been a consideration.

[kaldaniels]

Do sports fans tune into a game because of the announcers? For me, it has never been a consideration.

I would say no. But to the flip side MNF has been so bad (games and announcers) I rarely watch.

[North]

ESPN is considering offering Tony Romo upwards of $10mill/yr to leave CBS

https://sports.yahoo.com/report-espn-to-make-cbs-tony-romo-a-historic-offer-to-join-its-nfl-coverage-033157777.html

Who knew that there was more money in broadcasting than playing QB ? Romo's highest base salary for the Cowboys was $8mill

Well, the NFL and sports yakking are both show business.

[Sea Ray]

Do sports fans tune into a game because of the announcers? For me, it has never been a consideration.

I'm with you there

[Chip R]

Do sports fans tune into a game because of the announcers? For me, it has never been a consideration.

They may not but they may tune out of a game because of them.

[Bob Sheed]

If you have surround sound and disconnect the middle speaker, the announcers go away.

[North]

They may not but they may tune out of a game because of them.

In response to viewer disatisfaction with the palaver, NBC broadcast a game without it, in the '60’s

It was a Jets game. No banter, no jawbowning. And NO play-by-play.

No "8 yard run by Snell. No 12 yard gain by Maynard. No It's a 45 yard field goal!"


Just. Dead. Air.


Well, nobody expected that. So NBC said "See? We did it and nobody liked it." They declared victory and the rest is history.

[Mutaman]

Do sports fans tune into a game because of the announcers? For me, it has never been a consideration.

Two exceptions: Bob Prince ("The great Roberto") and Harry. Jack Brickhouse too ("Hey hey Hey")

[GAC]

I expect that State Farm would love a Chiefs-Packers Super Bowl. State Farm commercials already feature Patrick Mahomes and Aaron Rodgers.
Unfortunately, next Sunday the 49ers, whom I loathe, will probably defeat the Packers, whom I like.

In between this commercial (LOL)

https://instagram.frix8-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t51.2885-15/e35/40784458_381059439098615_8126621832963047699_n.jpg ?_nc_ht=instagram.frix8-1.fna.fbcdn.net&_nc_cat=111&oh=6c54873d29a3e324c652454dfa55efd4&oe=5E9295EC

I don't know whose mug I hate seeing on the screen worse? Flo's or Peyton's!

[Chip R]

In response to viewer disatisfaction with the palaver, NBC broadcast a game without it, in the '60’s

It was a Jets game. No banter, no jawbowning. And NO play-by-play.

No "8 yard run by Snell. No 12 yard gain by Maynard. No It's a 45 yard field goal!"


Just. Dead. Air.


Well, nobody expected that. So NBC said "See? We did it and nobody liked it." They declared victory and the rest is history.

You're a couple of decades off. It was in the 80s. It was a gimmick and they were not ever going to have more games without announcers. But it was the Jets and Dolphins.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Announcerless_game

[North]

You're a couple of decades off. It was in the 80s. It was a gimmick and they were not ever going to have more games without announcers. But it was the Jets and Dolphins.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Announcerless_game

Time sure flies! :D. Did you see the game?

[Chip R]

Time sure flies! :D. Did you see the game?

Yeah. I'm a Dolphins fan and I was curious so I watched it.

[North]

Yeah. I'm a Dolphins fan and I was curious so I watched it.

I'm originally from western NY, so I watched the Bills. I do remember the '70’s decade...the 'Fins won 20 straight against Bflo.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bills%E2%80%93Dolphins_rivalry

[reds77]

Joe Brady going to the Panthers as the OC. Missed opportunity by the Bengals.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/panthers/2020/01/14/joe-brady-lsu-carolina-panthers-take-job/4470679002/

[North]

Joe Brady going to the Panthers as the OC. Missed opportunity by the Bengals.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/panthers/2020/01/14/joe-brady-lsu-carolina-panthers-take-job/4470679002/

That's alright we have Zac Taylor. :)

[WVRed]

Joe Brady going to the Panthers as the OC. Missed opportunity by the Bengals.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/panthers/2020/01/14/joe-brady-lsu-carolina-panthers-take-job/4470679002/

That’s not even the biggest news out of Carolina.

Luke Keuchly retiring.

[CTA513]

Panthers LB Luke Kuechly is retiring:

https://twitter.com/Panthers/status/1217257977352204294
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001096753/article/panthers-lb-luke-kuechly-retiring-after-eight-seasons

[redsfandan]

Panthers LB Luke Kuechly is retiring:

https://twitter.com/Panthers/status/1217257977352204294
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001096753/article/panthers-lb-luke-kuechly-retiring-after-eight-seasons

A little surprising considering he's only 28. Pretty impressive career, though:

7× Pro Bowl (2013–2019)
5× First-team All-Pro (2013–2015, 2017, 2018)
2× Second-team All-Pro (2016, 2019)
Art Rooney Award (2017)
3× Butkus Award (pro) (2014, 2015, 2017)
NFL Defensive Player of the Year (2013)
2× NFL Tackles leader (2012, 2014)
NFL Defensive Rookie of the Year (2012)
PFWA All-Rookie Team (2012)

[RedTeamGo!]

Not surprising to us Panthers fans. He has had multiple really bad concussions. The last one had him sobbing uncontrollably on the field.

[North]

Panthers LB Luke Kuechly is retiring:

https://twitter.com/Panthers/status/1217257977352204294
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001096753/article/panthers-lb-luke-kuechly-retiring-after-eight-seasons

I remember the Bengals hoping he would fall to them in the draft...local kid to boot. The Bengals of course wouldn't move up, and plucked Dre Kirkpatrick.

[Sea Ray]

Joe Brady going to the Panthers as the OC. Missed opportunity by the Bengals.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/panthers/2020/01/14/joe-brady-lsu-carolina-panthers-take-job/4470679002/

I doubt the Bengals even considered it, unfortunately. Too bad for the Bengals but it really sucks for LSU

[Rojo Rijo]

Not surprising to us Panthers fans. He has had multiple really bad concussions. The last one had him sobbing uncontrollably on the field.

As a non-Panthers fan who lives in NC he goes down as one of my favorite guys (probably second to Smitty) to play for the local team. I heard a story this season about Coach Rivera having to stop by the facility on Christmas day one year to grab something and he found Luke in the video room watching tape. Kid was on another level in terms of commitment to his craft and the game. Panthers fans are reeling right now but also seem very supportive and thankful for him.

[Chip R]

The HOF Centennial Class has been announced.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/28488678/paul-tagliabue-steve-sabol-selected-pro-football-hall-fame-centennial-class

[Tuff Nut]

The HOF Centennial Class has been announced.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/28488678/paul-tagliabue-steve-sabol-selected-pro-football-hall-fame-centennial-class

Longtime Chiefs fan and a die hard Raider Hater, but Cliff Branch's ommission is inexcusable. His career stats are on par with Charmichael's, plus he played in 22 playoff games and has 3 rings.

[Kingspoint]

Longtime Chiefs fan and a die hard Raider Hater, but Cliff Branch's ommission is inexcusable. His career stats are on par with Charmichael's, plus he played in 22 playoff games and has 3 rings.

In an era when there weren't field stretchers, he was the perfect field stretcher.

[WrongVerb]

RB Travis Etienne Jr returning to Clemson for his senior year.

[Boston Red]

rb travis etienne jr returning to clemson for his senior year.

nooooooooooooo

[Kingspoint]

Love how the Ravens were supposed to be this great team and they were destroyed where it counts, on the scoreboard, in their own stadium by Ryan Tannehill and the Titans. I'm not surprised as I predicted here that the Titans would make the playoffs because of Tannehill after seeing the difference he made for them after his first game taking over for Mariota.

[Todd Gack]

Love how the Ravens were supposed to be this great team and they were destroyed where it counts, on the scoreboard, in their own stadium by Ryan Tannehill and the Titans. I'm not surprised as I predicted here that the Titans would make the playoffs because of Tannehill after seeing the difference he made for them after his first game taking over for Mariota.

Who could have seen it coming?

As for Tannehill, I think you'll see more teams sign backup QB's like Tannehill. QB's who used to be good but, for whatever reason, have declined and aren't quite starting QB's. Teams would be more willing to spend close to 10 mil on a backup QB on 1-2 year deals.

[Kingspoint]

Who could have seen it coming?

Me.

[Kingspoint]

Who could have seen it coming?

As for Tannehill, I think you'll see more teams sign backup QB's like Tannehill. QB's who used to be good but, for whatever reason, have declined and aren't quite starting QB's. Teams would be more willing to spend close to 10 mil on a backup QB on 1-2 year deals.

It bodes well for a potential Dalton trade, especially if the Titans pull out another playoff win on the road this weekend.

[Todd Gack]

It bodes well for a potential Dalton trade, especially if the Titans pull out another playoff win on the road this weekend.

Never made sense to me that the Steelers didn't do something like this with Ben being so old and fragile.

[texasdave]

Andy Reid is 0-5 in Conference Championship Games, and is down 10-0 early against the Titans.

[Hillsdale87]

Andy Reid is 0-5 in Conference Championship Games, and is down 10-0 early against the Titans.

This can't be right. He went to the Super Bowl with Philly


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[BuckeyeRed27]

This can't be right. He went to the Super Bowl with Philly


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Right. He’s 1-5 in Championship games. 1-4 will Philly and 0-1 with KC before today.

[Todd Gack]

This KC offense is just really hard to stop. Too many weapons and a QB that is actually good at throwing the football downfield and can read defenses. It’s going to be a fun Super Bowl no matter who wins the NFC.

[Hillsdale87]

Right. He’s 1-5 in Championship games. 1-4 will Philly and 0-1 with KC before today.

About to be 1-1 with KC. Healthy Mahomes is amazing


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[Todd Gack]

Right. He’s 1-5 in Championship games. 1-4 will Philly and 0-1 with KC before today.
Reid has been riding coat tails of talented teams his entire career. He’s an awful in-game coach and now he’s getting another shot with a rare talent at QB. I mean, they’re still going to win this game but small things like not expecting a fake punt and just letting your defense on the field and kicks he ball is why he’s such a terrible coach.

[BuckeyeRed27]

Reid has been riding coat tails of talented teams his entire career. He’s an awful in-game coach and now he’s getting another shot with a rare talent at QB. I mean, they’re still going to win this game but small things like not expecting a fake punt and just letting your defense on the field and kicks he ball is why he’s such a terrible coach.

Yeah the other side of that coin is his teams are almost always relevant and have been for like 20 seasons. He has had some pretty egregious time management issues before for sure, but I still think he’s a top 5 coach in the league. I like this KC team a lot and I’m rooting for him.

[Hillsdale87]

Reid has been riding coat tails of talented teams his entire career. He’s an awful in-game coach and now he’s getting another shot with a rare talent at QB. I mean, they’re still going to win this game but small things like not expecting a fake punt and just letting your defense on the field and kicks he ball is why he’s such a terrible coach.

Andy Reid is a bad coach is some kind of hot take. He's now made 7 conference championship games and 2 Super Bowls. He would have made it last year too but for a terrible offsides on 4th down on Dee Ford. He made the Chiefs into an explosive offense with Alex Smith. He's not perfect, and his biggest flaw is clock management, but he's one of the best offensive coaches of all time.

This team is talented like a Belichick team. Mahomes is obviously incredible, but there's no skill position first round picks besides Watkins (who has been a disappointment), but he finds the skills he's looking for and designs an offense around them.


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[westofyou]

The last time the Chiefs were in the Super Bowl I was in second grade

[North]

The last time the Chiefs were in the Super Bowl I was in second grade


1st year of college for me. :yikes:

[Todd Gack]

Andy Reid is a bad coach is some kind of hot take. He's now made 7 conference championship games and 2 Super Bowls. He would have made it last year too but for a terrible offsides on 4th down on Dee Ford. He made the Chiefs into an explosive offense with Alex Smith. He's not perfect, and his biggest flaw is clock management, but he's one of the best offensive coaches of all time.

This team is talented like a Belichick team. Mahomes is obviously incredible, but there's no skill position first round picks besides Watkins (who has been a disappointment), but he finds the skills he's looking for and designs an offense around them.


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I get it. I know how successful his teams have been and I know it's considered a 'hot take' by saying he's terrible, but look around the league in terms of NFL head coaches. If I had to pick someone to start my team/franchise, he's definitely not in my Top 10.

As for Smith, he had arguably his best year his last year with the 49ers before going to KC.

[WrongVerb]

The last time the Chiefs were in the Super Bowl I was in second grade


1st year of college for me. :yikes:

I wasn't born yet.

[Betterread]

After Mostert’s fourth TD, making it 34-7, Troy Aikman just said the Niners took the Packers manhood.

[KronoRed]

Looks like they are taking it back, total choke job in progress now.

[Todd Gack]

Welp, the biggest question of the Super Bowl is whether or not KC can force JG to win the game. If they can, they’ll win.

[Todd Gack]

I’d also like to point out that had GB not tried to idiotically try to chase points with their 2pt conversion, it’d still be a 2 possession game. The game is all but over anyway, but I thought the decision to go for two was dumb. I don’t know what NFL HC’s obsessions are with going for two way too early. Just wait until you absolutely have to.

[Betterread]

The two best teams I saw this year play each other for the title. The team speed of KC on offense and S.F. on defense were elite for the NFL this year. I think the Packers showed one way to attack that worked - short quick passes.

[Roy Tucker]

The last time the Chiefs were in the Super Bowl I was in second grade

Lol. I was in 11th grade. Workin' on mysteries without any clues.

Otis Taylor has a big play IIRC. Joe Kapp got beat to crap by the KC defense.

[GAC]

Lol. I was in 11th grade. Workin' on mysteries without any clues.

Otis Taylor has a big play IIRC. Joe Kapp got beat to crap by the KC defense.

I was a freshman. The Reds being dominated by the Orioles (Robinson) in the World Series kinda overshadowed that Super Bowl memory for me (LOL).

[GAC]

One of the things that impressed me with Lamar Jackson's blazing speed was that it enabled him to beat the opposition to the outside edge (either side). It was like a race to see who was going to get there first. Because once Jackson turned that outside corner - look out.

IMO, Mahomes may be #2 after watching his TD run yesterday. A thing of beauty. To not only have that kind of speed, but the quick "mind-set" that enables you to adjust (agility) with moves that are so smooth it almost look like you're toying with the opposition (lol).

These types of QBs have really forced some changes, re-thinking, on the role of the LBer in the NFL.

[dubc47834]

Do sports fans tune into a game because of the announcers? For me, it has never been a consideration.

I don't tune in because of an announcer, but I will definitely tune one out! If Cowboy is calling a Reds game I won't watch it.

[Chip R]

Antonio Brown in trouble again.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/28532490/antonio-brown-suspect-battery-probe?

[GAC]

Antonio Brown in trouble again.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/28532490/antonio-brown-suspect-battery-probe?

The guy needs help (counseling). Don't see any NFL team wanting anything to do with him.

[Sea Ray]

The guy needs help (counseling). Don't see any NFL team wanting anything to do with him.

That's what I thought and then NE signed him...

[Chip R]

The guy needs help (counseling). Don't see any NFL team wanting anything to do with him.


That's what I thought and then NE signed him...

There have been a few incidents since NE signed him that would definitely be a red light for NFL teams.

However, if he were to get counseling and his name were cleared from the sexual assault case, I think there would be some teams that would be very interested in signing him. But if they did and he started with the shenanigans again, he would probably get cut.

[Kingspoint]

From Rotoworld:

Antonio Brown has locked himself inside his own house in response to his Hollywood, Florida battery investigation.
Brown is a suspect in a battery investigation involving a moving truck worker. His trainer has been taken into custody and charged with battery already, and the police are looking to speak with Brown to gather more information. That's been difficult. Public information officer Christian Lata told reporters that attempts to contact Brown have been unsuccessful because Brown has "locked himself in his house." Lata said the investigation is ongoing and more information will surface. This latest antic further increases the odds that Brown has already played his final NFL snap.

SOURCE: USA Today

[Chip R]

Eli's retiring.

Https://es.pn/30JtSFQ

[Kingspoint]

Are there any other QB's with two Super Bowl victories and a .500 or less career victory total? 117-117 for Eli.

[JaxRed]

Raiders officially changed their name....... Las Vegas Raiders

[GAC]

Raiders officially changed their name....... Las Vegas Raiders

Quite appropriate. LOL

[RedsBaron]

Are there any other QB's with two Super Bowl victories and a .500 or less career victory total? 117-117 for Eli.
Jim Plunkett. His teams went 72-72 in NFL games he started and Plunkett was the QB on two Super Bowl winning teams.

[Kingspoint]

Jim Plunkett. His teams went 72-72 in NFL games he started and Plunkett was the QB on two Super Bowl winning teams.

Two very special players.

What a strange coincidence that he and Eli were exactly .500.

[Todd Gack]

Two very special players.

What a strange coincidence that he and Eli were exactly .500.

Eli is soooooo overated it's not even funny. His career stats are incredibly average but we want to put him in because he beat the 18-0 Patriots. His team scored 17 points in that game too. 17! And he needed a miraculous catch by a receiver to boot. He is simply in the HOF because of that. That's it. If Tyree doesn't make that catch, we're not debating whether he's deserving. But because he won 2 Super Bowls, he's a HOFer.

I just believe the NFL is putting too much emphasis on winning a Super Bowl for whether you're worthy or not. His career stats, no matter which one you choose, it screams someone like Joe Flacco.

[Kingspoint]

Eli is soooooo overated it's not even funny. His career stats are incredibly average but we want to put him in because he beat the 18-0 Patriots. His team scored 17 points in that game too. 17! And he needed a miraculous catch by a receiver to boot. He is simply in the HOF because of that. That's it. If Tyree doesn't make that catch, we're not debating whether he's deserving. But because he won 2 Super Bowls, he's a HOFer.

I just believe the NFL is putting too much emphasis on winning a Super Bowl for whether you're worthy or not. His career stats, no matter which one you choose, it screams someone like Joe Flacco.

Joe Flacco was never going to win twice.

[Chip R]

Eli is soooooo overated it's not even funny. His career stats are incredibly average but we want to put him in because he beat the 18-0 Patriots. His team scored 17 points in that game too. 17! And he needed a miraculous catch by a receiver to boot. He is simply in the HOF because of that. That's it. If Tyree doesn't make that catch, we're not debating whether he's deserving. But because he won 2 Super Bowls, he's a HOFer.

I just believe the NFL is putting too much emphasis on winning a Super Bowl for whether you're worthy or not. His career stats, no matter which one you choose, it screams someone like Joe Flacco.

He's not overrated just because of that. He's overrated because of that and he played for the Giants and his last name is Manning. And it's the writers that vote on the HOFers. Which means he'll probably get in for sure.

[Kingspoint]

He's not overrated just because of that. He's overrated because of that and he played for the Giants and his last name is Manning. And it's the writers that vote on the HOFers. Which means he'll probably get in for sure.

Most...99%...of all Quarterbacks wilt under the pressure of the New York media. Eli never blinked an eye. He won Two Super Bowls. Not One. He's a shoo-in, easy 1st Time Hall-of-Fame inductee.

[Sea Ray]

Joe Flacco was never going to win twice.

I do think the hype on Eli is putting way too much emphasis on wins/losses for a QB. QBs don't control wins/losses like pitchers do in baseball and that stat is even controversial there. To me he's a no for the HoF and it's not even particularly close...but he will get in

[Sea Ray]

Most...99%...of all Quarterbacks wilt under the pressure of the New York media. Eli never blinked an eye. He won Two Super Bowls. Not One. He's a shoo-in, easy 1st Time Hall-of-Fame inductee.

I'd put in Phil Simms before Eli

[North]

He's not overrated just because of that. He's overrated because of that and he played for the Giants and his last name is Manning. And it's the writers that vote on the HOFers. Which means he'll probably get in for sure.

Yep...the NFL is an entertainment biz, and name recognition usually triumphs.

[phatknuckle]

Two very special players.

What a strange coincidence that he and Eli were exactly .500.

Plunkett was special, but not HOF special. Eli would also be a no for me, but I suspect he will make it.

[Chip R]

Antonio Brown has turned himself into police.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/28550533/antonio-brown-turns-police-arrest-warrant

[Chip R]

The New Orleans Saints are going to court to keep emails from going public about the local Catholic Archdiocese's sexual abuse crisis.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/28554352/saints-seek-prevent-release-emails-related-work-catholic-abuse-crisis?

[savafan]

The New Orleans Saints are going to court to keep emails from going public about the local Catholic Archdiocese's sexual abuse crisis.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/28554352/saints-seek-prevent-release-emails-related-work-catholic-abuse-crisis?

As I read through that, all I could think was that the innocent never have anything to hide.

[Boston Red]

As I read through that, all I could think was that the innocent never have anything to hide.

A true statement that makes for horrible policy!

[WrongVerb]

A true statement that makes for horrible policy!

I would disagree. Being honest and up front in all dealings is, in the long run, far more effective than being secretive and deceptive.

[Todd Gack]

Anyone watch Lamar Jackson tear up the passing skills challenge?

[Chip R]

Anyone watch Lamar Jackson tear up the passing skills challenge?

I saw him hit the crossbar from at least 50 yards out. :eek:

[Bob Sheed]

I would disagree. Being honest and up front in all dealings is, in the long run, far more effective than being secretive and deceptive.

Being honest and upfront has nothing to do with privacy.

[Ohayou]

https://twitter.com/TomBrady/status/1223027359256862720

Hmm...

[Mutaman]

On two different occasions Eli went into Lambeau in the post season and beat two good Packer teams in freezing temperatures. Beat two different HOF QBs and then went on to win the SB both times.

[Todd Gack]

3rd and 15 and and letting Hill get free was turning point. Just too many weapons on this KC team. Hard to contain them all game.

Congrats to Andy Reid. Well deserved after everything he's been through.

[ScotlandRed]

Damien Williams deserves MVP. He made the 2 plays that won them the game. QB love far too obvious again.

[kaldaniels]

There was a twitter remark that Jimmy had the throw of his career (that overthrow trailing in the 4th) and he missed.

Sad but true.

[WVRed]

Not to get political but this happened:

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200203/d98a75ab4605624abc8e915cbae44301.jpg

[GAC]

KC (Reid) simply wore the 49ers defense out (75 plays). The 49ers ran out of steam in the 4th.

[15fan]

So a Kyle Shannahan unit melted down in the 4th quarter of another Super Bowl? The D was gassed because even though the 49ers were up late, Shannahan refused to run the football to grind the clock and shorten the game for his defense?

(Checks box score - Mostert and Coleman combined for 86 yards on 17 carries, or just over 5 yards per carry last night.)

Sounds eerily similar to SB LI.

[reds77]

As a Bengals fan, I never want to see the 49'ers win. Montana ruined the '88 - '89 season for me. Nice to see Reid get the W, he seems like a genuinely good dude.

[Tuff Nut]

SUPER BOWL CHAMPS... WOOT WOOT..
Don't wake me from this dream...WOW

[adkindo]

As a Bengals fan, I never want to see the 49'ers win. Montana ruined the '88 - '89 season for me. Nice to see Reid get the W, he seems like a genuinely good dude.

and it was not even Rice....but John Taylor (very underrated in history)....broke my heart that night.

[adkindo]

Not to get political but this happened:

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200203/d98a75ab4605624abc8e915cbae44301.jpg

not partisan political.....but I saw he was asked before the game who would win, and he basically said he had an opinion but would not say....assume to not make any voters mad. I was thinking....just say Kansas City....you have a chance in Missouri and zero chance at winning California. Like I said, not being partisan...I would give Obama the same advice if he was choosing between WV and Iowa....just pick Iowa, because WV is not voting for him.

[adkindo]

my last thoughts on the Superbowl....I did not know Shakira was 43 years old! I knew JLo was a genetic anomaly....but Shakira definitely must be also. That is a not a normal 43 year old female body!

[WVRed]

my last thoughts on the Superbowl....I did not know Shakira was 43 years old! I knew JLo was a genetic anomaly....but Shakira definitely must be also. That is a not a normal 43 year old female body!

I can now say I’ve seen a 50 year old pole dance for the first time.

[WVRed]

I’m kinda surprised Andy Reid didn’t retire after the game. He’s been coaching forever and finally won a ring and likely locked up a trip to Canton in the process. Plus a likely head coach in waiting as OC ready to take over.

[GAC]

I can now say I’ve seen a 50 year old pole dance for the first time.

Yep. Football, pole dancing, and consuming mass quantities.

I've never been into those SB Halftime "extravaganzas". To each his own. LOL

[WVRed]

Just realized something.

IF Brady does decide to go to Vegas, the rotation has the Patriots and Raiders playing in Foxboro this season.

That would be a pretty sweet prime time game.

[adkindo]

Just realized something.

IF Brady does decide to go to Vegas, the rotation has the Patriots and Raiders playing in Foxboro this season.

That would be a pretty sweet prime time game.

I will not believe he leaves New England until it happens....it just makes zero sense to me.

[Tuff Nut]

Just realized something.

IF Brady does decide to go to Vegas, the rotation has the Patriots and Raiders playing in Foxboro this season.

That would be a pretty sweet prime time game.

He isn't leaving Bill hanging. Tommy just loves the drama and being center of attention.

[Todd Gack]

He isn't leaving Bill hanging. Tommy just loves the drama and being center of attention.

When he has a Prime Time special to announce where he's bringing his talents, then we can say he loves the drama. But for now, I don't know why you think that.

[Tuff Nut]

When he has a Prime Time special to announce where he's bringing his talents, then we can say he loves the drama. But for now, I don't know why you think that.

Did he not have a Hulu commercial announcing such, during the Super Bowl? Anything to make it about him.

[Bob Sheed]

Brady probably got more for that commercial than he made all last season.

Can't fault him there, he was definitely clocked in.

[Kingspoint]

Phillip Rivers is officially a Free Agent. Elway's history as a G.M. says that he's all-in at trying to bring him to Denver.

[Sea Ray]

Phillip Rivers is officially a Free Agent. Elway's history as a G.M. says that he's all-in at trying to bring him to Denver.

Add the Chargers to the list of possible Andy Dalton suitors

[Boston Red]

Teddy Bridgewater would look good in SD.

[WrongVerb]

Teddy Bridgewater would look good in SD.

LA

I keep making the same mistake as well.

[Boston Red]

Ha, that's pretty bad. I wonder how long I'll keep referring to the Oakland Raiders!

[Bob Sheed]

I still keep referring to the Baltimore Ravens as the Cleveland Browns. Super confusing during the season.

[Spanky]

Ha, that's pretty bad. I wonder how long I'll keep referring to the Oakland Raiders!

probably the rest of your life haha.