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NC-Red
07-26-2020, 04:05 PM
no they are not. this was just a choke show by the reds.

How is it a choke?? The tigers have out hit and outpitched the Reds. Now if the Reds had left a whole bunch of runners on base then yes i could see but the offense never once challenged Detroit outside of game 1

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JFLegal
07-26-2020, 04:06 PM
Bell is such a moron. He never learns from mistakes. No reason to pull Strop for Gas Can Lorenzen, in addition to all his other nonsense.

bell is proving that his record as a minor league manager was no fluke.

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How is it a choke?? The tigers have out hit and outpitched the Reds. Now if the Reds had left a whole bunch of runners on base then yes i could see but the offense never once challenged Detroit outside of game 1

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because the reds have clearly the better roster.

JFLegal
07-26-2020, 04:07 PM
bell is also a nervous-nelly. the best managers are cool cats.

NC-Red
07-26-2020, 04:07 PM
bell is proving that his record as a minor league manager was no fluke.

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because the reds have clearly the better roster.

They do? You wouldn't know it watching this series. To lose 2/3 at home in an imperative series to win the Tigers looked much better. Until the Reds start to beat and resemble an AL team then they will never win a dang thing

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JFLegal
07-26-2020, 04:08 PM
this scrub closer is on my fantasy team. the reds are going to be responsible for my team getting cheap saves this week.

TheBigLebowski
07-26-2020, 04:08 PM
bell is proving that his record as a minor league manager was no fluke.

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He is who we thought he was.
because the reds have clearly the better roster.

WVRedsFan
07-26-2020, 04:08 PM
I have always thought Lorenzen was not a good reliever. I'm on the road, but two games in two days?

OneEyedJack
07-26-2020, 04:08 PM
So far this team looks pretty much like last year's team. Good starting pitching. A bullpen that gives up big hits. And hitting that is really inconsistent.

JFLegal
07-26-2020, 04:08 PM
They do? You wouldn't know it watching this series. To lose 2/3 at home in an imperative series to win the Tigers looked much better. Until the Reds start to beat and resemble an AL team then they will never win a dang thing

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yes, they do, everyone in baseball would agree the reds have a better roster than the tigers.

Ron Madden
07-26-2020, 04:09 PM
Ground Rule Double Galvis!!!

Reds Fanatic
07-26-2020, 04:09 PM
Leadoff double for Galvis

adkindo
07-26-2020, 04:09 PM
ok....here we go....

RedsBrick
07-26-2020, 04:09 PM
Bell is such a moron. He never learns from mistakes. No reason to pull Strop for Gas Can Lorenzen, in addition to all his other nonsense.

Lorenzen is nothing but a hard thrower. He’s not a pitcher. His flat, 100 mph pitches simply get out of the park quicker.

chicoruiz
07-26-2020, 04:09 PM
Wait... I think the corpse just moved...

podgejeff_
07-26-2020, 04:09 PM
Bat Galvis third lol.

CaiGuy
07-26-2020, 04:09 PM
Get out the rally caps

JFLegal
07-26-2020, 04:09 PM
I have always thought Lorenzen was not a good reliever. I'm on the road, but two games in two days?

he's so overrated by ... well ... maybe not fans. but certainly by bell and the reds' front office.

Ron Madden
07-26-2020, 04:10 PM
RBI Double Aquino!!!

Reds Fanatic
07-26-2020, 04:10 PM
Aquino doubles! 3-2 Tigers

adkindo
07-26-2020, 04:10 PM
Aquino with the RBI double!

Stray
07-26-2020, 04:10 PM
Here we go

Reds
07-26-2020, 04:10 PM
Nice start

podgejeff_
07-26-2020, 04:10 PM
Aquino just muscled that one.

TheBigLebowski
07-26-2020, 04:11 PM
Punisher delivers.

Roy Tucker
07-26-2020, 04:11 PM
Nice base running by Aquino.

JFLegal
07-26-2020, 04:11 PM
c'mon stinker.

adkindo
07-26-2020, 04:11 PM
Aquino with the wheels!

Reds Fanatic
07-26-2020, 04:11 PM
Fly out to center. Aquino to 3rd

Ron Madden
07-26-2020, 04:11 PM
AQUINO to third

NC-Red
07-26-2020, 04:11 PM
If anybody is choking right now it’s the Tigers. They had this series well in hand

podgejeff_
07-26-2020, 04:12 PM
Good baserunning by Aquino.

M2
07-26-2020, 04:12 PM
Behold the TRUTH of Aquino!

BluegrassRedleg
07-26-2020, 04:12 PM
Here comes some epic fail.


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JFLegal
07-26-2020, 04:12 PM
yes! jesse was hit.

Reds Fanatic
07-26-2020, 04:12 PM
Hit by pitch. Joey can end this

JaxRed
07-26-2020, 04:12 PM
I'd take a wild pitch....

podgejeff_
07-26-2020, 04:12 PM
Thankfully he was wearing armor.

adkindo
07-26-2020, 04:13 PM
just get it in the outfield Joey....Winker and Votto is a double play problem

CaiGuy
07-26-2020, 04:13 PM
Winker leaned into that one...I'm ok with it.

BluegrassRedleg
07-26-2020, 04:13 PM
Line drive smash for a double play here will cap the series off appropriately.


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Reds
07-26-2020, 04:13 PM
I swear if they batted out of order lol

Reds Fanatic
07-26-2020, 04:13 PM
Something weird going on with the lineup

mth123
07-26-2020, 04:13 PM
Stage set for Joey/

TheBigLebowski
07-26-2020, 04:14 PM
Line drive smash for a double play here will cap the series off appropriately.


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Reds Fanatic
07-26-2020, 04:14 PM
Lorenzen pinch running for Winker. Which essentially takes the dh out of this game for the Reds

Roy Tucker
07-26-2020, 04:14 PM
I don’t get this move by Bell.

Reds
07-26-2020, 04:14 PM
Only an NL team would choose to take the dh away lol

T Harper
07-26-2020, 04:14 PM
Nice Biggio, Winker...

mth123
07-26-2020, 04:14 PM
Bell needs to stop trying to be the smartest guy in the room.

podgejeff_
07-26-2020, 04:14 PM
And we've lost the DH.

We're just too NL for the rest of baseball.

TheBigLebowski
07-26-2020, 04:15 PM
Oh, Bell...

Bruce Berenyi
07-26-2020, 04:15 PM
bullpen- strong and deep??????

Ron Madden
07-26-2020, 04:15 PM
Damn

Reds
07-26-2020, 04:15 PM
Damn damn damn

Reds Fanatic
07-26-2020, 04:15 PM
Ugly start to the season

Roy Tucker
07-26-2020, 04:16 PM
Poo.

Stray
07-26-2020, 04:16 PM
Not good

BluegrassRedleg
07-26-2020, 04:16 PM
Yep.


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Kc61
07-26-2020, 04:16 PM
Damn

Seems like every year somebody raises an issue with the bullpen.

podgejeff_
07-26-2020, 04:16 PM
How many times has Votto hit a rocket right at an infielder?

JaxRed
07-26-2020, 04:16 PM
That was a letdown....

adkindo
07-26-2020, 04:16 PM
just terrible....Geno and Votto at bat with a chance in back to back games....lose both

NC-Red
07-26-2020, 04:16 PM
Better team won. Detroit controlled this series and this game. Reds have a long way to go, rather them lose early and not have to worry about them anyway honestly.

T Harper
07-26-2020, 04:16 PM
Joey clutch

REDREAD
07-26-2020, 04:16 PM
we suck

KYExtemper
07-26-2020, 04:16 PM
I hate to say I saw that coming, but I saw that coming......

M2
07-26-2020, 04:16 PM
People say strikeouts are bad, but then you hit into a DP and suddenly a strikeout doesn't seem so bad.

Reds
07-26-2020, 04:17 PM
Suarez can't have a worse series and hopefully moose comes back is what I'm looking forward to.

TheBigLebowski
07-26-2020, 04:17 PM
Well, they ruined all my desire to watch in one crappy weekend.

I despise Bell. And this team reeks.

JFLegal
07-26-2020, 04:17 PM
absolutely pathetic

adkindo
07-26-2020, 04:18 PM
People say strikeouts are bad, but then you hit into a DP and suddenly a strikeout doesn't seem so bad.

strikeouts are the worst....besides hitting into a double play :cool:

JFLegal
07-26-2020, 04:18 PM
Better team won. Detroit controlled this series and this game. Reds have a long way to go, rather them lose early and not have to worry about them anyway honestly.

better team? are you new to rosters? reds are the better team and choked this series away.

Reds
07-26-2020, 04:18 PM
Better team won. Detroit controlled this series and this game. Reds have a long way to go, rather them lose early and not have to worry about them anyway honestly.

Bro I listen to every game regardless of record so don't wish this on me ��

Ron Gant
07-26-2020, 04:18 PM
We peaked on Opening Day. Sounds about right.

Bruce Berenyi
07-26-2020, 04:19 PM
aquino would have won the game if strop were l eft in to pitch the ninth

JFLegal
07-26-2020, 04:19 PM
how about bell using the pinch-runner, and then not running him?

CmdrCody
07-26-2020, 04:19 PM
David Bell reminds me of an idiot who was from a great football coaches family who was the laughing stock of NFL coaches in the 1990ís. What was his name David something.......oh yea David Shula!


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adkindo
07-26-2020, 04:19 PM
this team does not suck....bullpen is struggling out if the gate, and the offense has had 2 bad games....we will split with Chicago at a minimum....win the series in Detroit and be right back on track

Tom Servo
07-26-2020, 04:19 PM
Pretty pathetic. The season is not over and the team is not awful, but truly good teams take care of business at home against teams like this. You have two or three times the talent they have, there’s no good excuse. The early returns say this is still a team that lacks killer instinct and an ability to play up to their talent. Have to be better, or else you’re just hype.

jup
07-26-2020, 04:20 PM
You let the pitch away go that you can easily drive through the open left side they are giving you to swing at a pitch you can't do anything with except pull into the teeth of the shift for a double play.

Votto hits for his own stats by pulling the ball, but when it counts, with the game on the line - HE SUCKS

bigfoot52
07-26-2020, 04:20 PM
If this is what we've got, I would be very nervous if I were Bell and Krall.

Roy Tucker
07-26-2020, 04:21 PM
Helluva start by Bauer. Glad to see that.

Bullpen giving up 2 run homers on consecutive days is not conducive to winning.

adkindo
07-26-2020, 04:21 PM
I still think Aquino should be on the roster....he may not hit .300, but his bat can change a game.....he is a 4 tool player and I think the more at bats he can get, the better he will be

LexRedsFan
07-26-2020, 04:21 PM
this team does not suck....bullpen is struggling out if the gate, and the offense has had 2 bad games....we will split with Chicago at a minimum....win the series in Detroit and be right back on track

Im not sure I call that back on track. Most of us were thinking “sweep Detroit at home and get 2/3 on the road” as the ideal start.

Tom Servo
07-26-2020, 04:21 PM
You let the pitch away go that you can easily drive through the open left side they are giving you to swing at a pitch you can't do anything with except pull into the teeth of the shift for a double play.

Votto hits for his own stats by pulling the ball, but when it counts, with the game on the line - HE SUCKS
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Ron Gant
07-26-2020, 04:22 PM
Thanks alot Matt Davidson...

RedsBrick
07-26-2020, 04:22 PM
Three games in and Bell has already triggered me.

Coopdaddy67
07-26-2020, 04:23 PM
You let the pitch away go that you can easily drive through the open left side they are giving you to swing at a pitch you can't do anything with except pull into the teeth of the shift for a double play.

Votto hits for his own stats by pulling the ball, but when it counts, with the game on the line - HE SUCKS

There's a reason you're sitting here posting on Redszone and Votto is going to the HOF.

adkindo
07-26-2020, 04:23 PM
we will likely be 1 game out of 1st place at the end of today....with probably the best 3 starting pitching performances in baseball to start the season as a group

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Im not sure I call that back on track. Most of us were thinking “sweep Detroit at home and get 2/3 on the road” as the ideal start.

I hear you....but even the good teams in baseball lose 40% of their games

Ron Gant
07-26-2020, 04:25 PM
There's a reason you're sitting here posting on Redszone and Votto is going to the HOF.

Dang man, that zinger really crossed the line.

adkindo
07-26-2020, 04:27 PM
the MArlins will take 2 of 3 from the Phillies at home....the Blue Jays will take 2 of 3 from the Rays at home...the Orioles will take 2 of 3 from the Red Sox at home...it happens

Tony Cloninger
07-26-2020, 04:27 PM
This series was no fluke, Tigers are the better team. I expect them to sweep or at least take 2/3 again next weekend and hopefully end this miserable season before it even began

I know talking to you is like speaking to a brick wall enclosed by a glass case of emotion but the Tigers were the 2nd worse team in 2019 and did pretty much nothing to get better. The Reds looked bad the last 2 days but they were not a 100 loss team coming into the season like The Tigers.

Ron Madden
07-26-2020, 04:29 PM
Box Score

https://www.mlb.com/gameday/tigers-vs-reds/2020/07/26/631591#game_state=final,lock_state=final,game_tab= box,game=631591

Wonderful Monds
07-26-2020, 04:32 PM
I’m not a big Bell hater, but if they keep having a handful of games/series like this for the rest of this season, I think he’s gotta go. They’ve brought in a lot of talent and the early signs still don’t look good, and he’s the common denominator.

NC-Red
07-26-2020, 04:33 PM
People keep mentioned the “talent” this team has. Outside of Starting pitching I don’t see it

M2
07-26-2020, 04:33 PM
You let the pitch away go that you can easily drive through the open left side they are giving you to swing at a pitch you can't do anything with except pull into the teeth of the shift for a double play.

Votto hits for his own stats by pulling the ball, but when it counts, with the game on the line - HE SUCKS

This is a low quality post.

UPRedsFan
07-26-2020, 04:33 PM
Is it knee jerk to say Bell should go to Jones in the 7th Garrett the 8th and Strop the 9th until those 3 are gassed or until Lorenzen and Iglesias prove theyíve improved their command?

Wonderful Monds
07-26-2020, 04:34 PM
People keep mentioned the “talent” this team has. Outside of Starting pitching I don’t see it

The lineup is pretty talented when a couple key members haven’t been hit with the plague

jup
07-26-2020, 04:34 PM
Dang man, that zinger really crossed the line.

Doesn't bother me, don't post here to feed my ego.

jup
07-26-2020, 04:36 PM
This is a low quality post.

Say what you like M2. That last at bat was inexcusable.

Tom Servo
07-26-2020, 04:36 PM
I’m not a big Bell hater, but if they keep having a handful of games/series like this for the rest of this season, I think he’s gotta go. They’ve brought in a lot of talent and the early signs still don’t look good, and he’s the common denominator.
That’s fair. I think one can question the teams motivation or lack of results. The stuff about getting on his decision making is what confuses me, it’s been pretty solid to good as Reds manager. But results are results.

Wonderful Monds
07-26-2020, 04:41 PM
That’s fair. I think one can question the teams motivation or lack of results. The stuff about getting on his decision making is what confuses me, it’s been pretty solid to good as Reds manager. But results are results.

Right that’s where I’m coming from mostly, they still look pretty flat and he’s the leader, the buck’s gotta stop with him on that end.


I also do think there is starting to be something with some of the moves that seem too clever for their own good too, like his continuing insistence on using Iglesias in situations we know pretty definitively he sucks in, or playing Jankowski over Aquino basically ever.

Coopdaddy67
07-26-2020, 04:44 PM
Iím not a big Bell hater, but if they keep having a handful of games/series like this for the rest of this season, I think heís gotta go. Theyíve brought in a lot of talent and the early signs still donít look good, and heís the common denominator.

I don't really have a problem with anything he did this weekend. I don't blame him for pulling Bauer and Castillo, it made sense given it was their first start and they didn't have the normal spring training build up.

At the end of the day, it's up to the bullpen to perform when they get the ball. You can't walk guys and give up long balls.

RedTeamGo!
07-26-2020, 04:45 PM
It’s not Bell’s fault the bullpen is horrible. That is on Williams.

Wonderful Monds
07-26-2020, 04:46 PM
I don't really have a problem with anything he did this weekend. I don't blame him for pulling Bauer and Castillo, it made sense given it was their first start and they didn't have the normal spring training build up.

At the end of the day, it's up to the bullpen to perform when they get the ball. You can't walk guys and give up long balls.

I don’t really care about the pulling the starter stuff either, I don’t think either dude was on so much that you’d leave them in for a super extended start, but there’s other stuff he does that is beginning to get at me.

Falls City Beer
07-26-2020, 04:52 PM
It’s not Bell’s fault the bullpen is horrible. That is on Williams.

Yep. Every year we’re treated to “it’s the manager’s fault” but the players themselves never seem to bear that accountability—nor the front office that acquires them.

UPRedsFan
07-26-2020, 04:56 PM
Yep. Every year we’re treated to “it’s the manager’s fault” but the players themselves never seem to bear that accountability—nor the front office that acquires them.

He got Strop and Nate Jones. Bell has to prove he’s gonna use the hot hand. Lorenzen and Iglesias have to prove they can settle down with their command.

Coopdaddy67
07-26-2020, 05:07 PM
He got Strop and Nate Jones. Bell has to prove he’s gonna use the hot hand. Lorenzen and Iglesias have to prove they can settle down with their command.

I can't blame him for counting on Lorenzen early in the year. He had a very good 2019, unlike most others to choose from.

Garrett's start is positive. Here's to hoping he's back on track after a rough 2nd half last year.

If Strop is back to pre-2019 form, that would be huge.

RedsBrick
07-26-2020, 05:21 PM
this team does not suck....bullpen is struggling out if the gate, and the offense has had 2 bad games....we will split with Chicago at a minimum....win the series in Detroit and be right back on track

I truly agree, this team does not suck. On the other hand, I'm not so sure about the manager.

Ron Madden
07-26-2020, 05:33 PM
Joel Luckhaupt
@jluckhaupt
Trevor Bauer's 13 K matches Jim Maloney in 1966 for the most strikeouts by a Reds pitcher in his season debut.

Ironman92
07-26-2020, 05:35 PM
Guess I wonít be posting too much this year.

We arenít out of it QUITE yet. 1 game out and every team in baseball has a loss in their first 3 games.

Baseball is hard. The Debbie Downers on here after all this time without baseball...wow. They get to 6-15 and Iíll join in a lot more. I doubt one of the best hitters in baseball will bat .000 this year.

JFLegal
07-26-2020, 05:43 PM
in a season where every game counts almost as much as 3x the usual game, you cannot afford trainwrecks against a very bad team like we saw the last two days. doesn't mean the reds are out of it -- far from it -- but what an incredibly disappointing start.

Kc61
07-26-2020, 05:53 PM
in a season where every game counts almost as much as 3x the usual game, you cannot afford trainwrecks against a very bad team like we saw the last two days. doesn't mean the reds are out of it -- far from it -- but what an incredibly disappointing start.

Also, Reds wasted two sensational starting performances.

How many outings like that do you get in a 60-game season?

You can’t assume that will happen regularly, even with excellent starters.

I could live with today’s loss, they battled in a close well pitched game.

Yesterday, Saturday, the bullpen just simply gave the game away

REDREAD
07-26-2020, 06:07 PM
If this is what we've got, I would be very nervous if I were Bell and Krall.

It's a shame that Dick Williams has lifetime job security.
Wasn't he the guy that said all winter that the bullpen was not a problem, that the team needed more offense instead?
The extra offense is certainly welcome, but he was really sticking his head in the sand by only adding Strop.
On the plus side though, the shorter season probably means the better bullpenners won't be worn out from overuse as they were last year.

Ron Madden
07-26-2020, 06:12 PM
It's a shame that Dick Williams has lifetime job security.
Wasn't he the guy that said all winter that the bullpen was not a problem, that the team needed more offense instead?
The extra offense is certainly welcome, but he was really sticking his head in the sand by only adding Strop.
On the plus side though, the shorter season probably means the better bullpenners won't be worn out from overuse as they were last year.

Where is the link that has Williams saying that?

Shenanigans

Ironman92
07-26-2020, 06:12 PM
The incredibly disappointing Reds are now tied for the #8 seed and right now would be paired up with the spectacular San Diego Dads in a 3 game series.

Tomorrow is July 27th and Reds are in this thing! Go Reds

Roy Tucker
07-26-2020, 07:03 PM
The MO for any team and any manager is that you go to the guys that are supposed to be you main guys first. That’s Inglesias and Lorenzen. Every team does this. They are earmarked for these roles.

In a normal 162 game season, you’ll give them the first 4-6 weeks of the season to settle in. But the trouble is, we don’t have that much time. The really tricky part is how many opportunities do they get in the new weird world.

Ron Madden
07-26-2020, 07:06 PM
Bobby Nightengale
@nightengalejr

18m
Trevor Bauer on pretending to throw the ball to CF when he was being taken out of Sunday's game: "I get worn out about it a lot. ... I figured I’d give the trolls something to chew on." #Reds

Ron Madden
07-26-2020, 07:33 PM
Bobby Nightengale
@nightengalejr

Michael Lorenzen after today's 3-2 loss to Tigers: "Mentally, I feel like I'm there. I'm attacking guys. It's just the execution parts, they're not as clean. It's sloppy right now." #Reds

REDREAD
07-26-2020, 08:16 PM
Either Williams or Krall.. I am pretty sure it was Williams said that the bullpen was
not the problem in 2019. He said if the Reds had a better offense last year, they
would not have been in as many close games.
I am not going to google the article for you.
I have stopped doing that on Redszone, because when I do, the person that
calls "Shenigans" either vanishes or continues the argument on something
unrelated to not lose face. He said it. I am pretty sure the link was posted
on Redszone. Look for it.

If you don't believe Williams' words, look at his actions.
He loaded up on offense, and really the only significant bullpen move was Strop (which
is looking good so far, but not nearly enough)

Kingspoint
07-27-2020, 01:17 AM
It was 100 degrees here. Spent the day at the river with the Spouse, getting there right after the game, so was able to quickly forget about it...until I left the river and our little moment of paradise.

Ron Madden
07-27-2020, 09:06 AM
Either Williams or Krall.. I am pretty sure it was Williams said that the bullpen was
not the problem in 2019. He said if the Reds had a better offense last year, they
would not have been in as many close games.
I am not going to google the article for you.
I have stopped doing that on Redszone, because when I do, the person that
calls "Shenigans" either vanishes or continues the argument on something
unrelated to not lose face. He said it. I am pretty sure the link was posted
on Redszone. Look for it.

If you don't believe Williams' words, look at his actions.
He loaded up on offense, and really the only significant bullpen move was Strop (which
is looking good so far, but not nearly enough)

:rolleyes:

REDREAD
07-27-2020, 09:50 AM
:rolleyes:

Thanks for the well thought out response. :lol:

Ron Madden
07-27-2020, 09:57 AM
Thanks for the well thought out response. :lol:

I still believe it's shenanigans

REDREAD
07-28-2020, 03:41 PM
I still believe it's shenanigans

Guess what? I don't care.
Like I said, if I spent the time posting the link, you would vanish.
I'll let you get the last word in.

khunter2
07-28-2020, 04:19 PM
Guess what? I don't care.
Like I said, if I spent the time posting the link, you would vanish.
I'll let you get the last word in.

Since I'm bored and waiting on the lineup so we can resume our bashing of Bell's logic (not saying it's not deserved), I took the liberty of looking this up-


https://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/mlb/reds/2019/10/11/cincinnati-reds-remain-confident-their-bullpen-options-major-league-baseball-mlb-david-bell-iglesias/3937012002/

REDREAD
07-29-2020, 01:49 PM
Since I'm bored and waiting on the lineup so we can resume our bashing of Bell's logic (not saying it's not deserved), I took the liberty of looking this up-


https://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/mlb/reds/2019/10/11/cincinnati-reds-remain-confident-their-bullpen-options-major-league-baseball-mlb-david-bell-iglesias/3937012002/

Thanks for finding that. I hope that makes Ron happy. Most likely he will conveniently forget to come back to this thread.

Ron Madden
07-29-2020, 01:58 PM
Thanks for finding that. I hope that makes Ron happy. Most likely he will conveniently forget to come back to this thread.

I'm back. I'm on Redszone everyday.

REDREAD
07-29-2020, 05:13 PM
I'm back. I'm on Redszone everyday.

Looks like you forgot to acknowledge that your hero Dick Williams did actually say the bullpen was good last year.



“You’re talking about almost 90 games that the last three or four innings, one swing of the bat can change the outcome,” said Dick Williams, the Reds’ president of baseball operations. “Every decision was scrutinized and that’s just the nature of baseball in close games. I think a lot of attention was starting to be paid to our bullpen. They were so good and such a strength, but because we were in every game and fighting in close battles, we did put a lot of pressure on those guys.”

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Williams says the bullpen deserved more credit than it received.

“When they did let things get away, I think they were, at times, unfairly scrutinized because I really think when the offense had chances to provide separating runs, get big leads, jump out, we just didn’t get quite enough of that, taking pressure off the pitching at times,” Williams said. “I felt like, I’m generalizing, more often than not, the offense ended up being a culprit.

Ron Madden
07-29-2020, 05:23 PM
My Apologies

REDREAD
07-30-2020, 11:28 PM
Thanks Ron.

RedTeamGo!
07-31-2020, 12:23 AM
Looks like you forgot to acknowledge that your hero Dick Williams did actually say the bullpen was good last year.

The offense was a bigger problem than the bullpen last year, though. Dick was right about how thin the margins were for the bullpen in 2019.