Reds vs Cubs 7-27-20 6:40PM

[Ron Madden]

Reds
1. Phillip Ervin (R) CF
2. Joey Votto (L) 1B
3. Eugenio Suarez (R) 3B
4. Nick Castellanos (R) RF
5. Aristides Aquino (R) LF
6. Christian Colon (R) DH
7. Kyle Farmer (R) 2B
8. Freddy Galvis (S) SS
9. Curt Casali (R) C
SP Wade Miley (L)

Cubs
1. Kris Bryant (R) LF
2. Anthony Rizzo (L) 1B
3. Javier Baez (R) SS
4. Kyle Schwarber (L) DH
5. Willson Contreras (R) C
6. Steven Souza Jr. (R) RF
7. David Bote (R) 3B
8. Nico Hoerner (R) 2B
9. Albert Almora Jr. (R) CF
SP Jon Lester (L)

[sdwagers]

Reds
1. Phillip Ervin (R) CF
2. Joey Votto (L) 1B
3. Eugenio Suarez (R) 3B
4. Nick Castellanos (R) RF
5. Aristides Aquino (R) LF
6. Christian Colon (R) DH
7. Kyle Farmer (R) 2B
8. Freddy Galvis (S) SS
9. Curt Casali (R) C
SP Wade Miley (L)

Shogo and Winker out with LHP Lester.

[NachoMan]

i don't get the Shogo platoon thing -- he hit lefties pretty well in Japan. And I'm certain he's better in CF than Ervin.

[UPRedsFan]

No word on Senzel? Kind of like Colon and Farmer getting starts here. Insert Shogo at top of the lineup when Lester's done.

[UPRedsFan]

i don't get the Shogo platoon thing -- he hit lefties pretty well in Japan. And I'm certain he's better in CF than Ervin.

Ervin hit .349 and had 1.038 OPS against left handers last year. Can't leave that on the bench. Maybe he DH's instead of Colon. But Bell wants to start with a right handed lineup and bring Shogo in when Lester leaves.

[Reds Freak]

In Japan, Shogo hit .308/.392/.494 against RHP and .294/.393/.426 against LHP. He needs to be playing every day, especially with Senzel out. Let him hit against LHP until he proves he can't do it. I think Bell is getting too cute here.

[NachoMan]

Ervin hit .349 and had 1.038 OPS against left handers last year. Can't leave that on the bench. Maybe he DH's instead of Colon. But Bell wants to start with a right handed lineup and bring Shogo in when Lester leaves.

Oh for sure, yeah I meant to DH Ervin or Castellanos.

[Ron Madden]

The Cubs lineup has been added to the original post

[CaiGuy]

Lineup sure looks thin without Shogo and Moustakas.

And, please, you have to play Shogo over Colon. For real.

Otherwise, the Reds have beat Lester around before. They can do it again tonight.

[CaiGuy]

In Japan, Shogo hit .308/.392/.494 against RHP and .294/.393/.426 against LHP. He needs to be playing every day, especially with Senzel out. Let him hit against LHP until he proves he can't do it. I think Bell is getting too cute here.

Yep, I like that he plays the matchups and platoons...but when your other option is Colon, you gotta go with the better player.

[adkindo]

Cubs slightly favored tonight.

[adkindo]

Has Aquino ever played LF in a game? I do think I would go with Ervin in LF, Shogo in CF and Aquino/Castellanos in RH/DH (or vice versa)....

[Ron Madden]

C. トレント・ローズクランズ
@ctrent
#Reds David Bell said "we're hoping to have (an update) here shortly" on Moustakas, Senzel and Davidson

[JaxRed]

Has Aquino ever played LF in a game? I do think I would go with Ervin in LF, Shogo in CF and Aquino/Castellanos in RH/DH (or vice versa)....

He played there briefly yesterday. I got no problem stacking the box with righties.

[Ron Madden]

Bobby Nightengale
@nightengalejr
It's just a day off from the starting lineup for Shogo Akiyama. He's available off the bench. Phillip Ervin (CF) and Aristides Aquino (LF) hit well vs. lefties. #Reds

[Ron Madden]

What about Christian Colon? Does he hit lefties well?
Bobby Nightengale
@nightengalejr
He hit .331/.406/.493 vs. LHP at AAA last year, so I'd say yes.

[TheBigLebowski]

Beginning to think it was silly to pay all that money for Shogo as he's clearly going to be caught in the middle of David Bell's Perpetual Tinkerin' Machine. There are plenty of lineup permutations that would have allowed him to play today.

[Mitri]

Shogo should be starting every game.

[JFLegal]

Beginning to think it was silly to pay all that money for Shogo as he's clearly going to be caught in the middle of David Bell's Perpetual Tinkerin' Machine. There are plenty of lineup permutations that would have allowed him to play today.

it wasn't a mistake. we'll still have shogo after bell is gone next year. i bet the new manager will love shogo.

[Ironman92]

Let’s win!

[Ironman92]

I would like Shogo in the lineup every night.

And quit batting Freddy 12th

[Ron Madden]

David Bell said Shogo Akiyama will not be a platoon player: "We are aware of Shogo’s ability to hit left-handed pitching. But allowing him to have some success in a new country and new league the best we can too, initially here, is worth consideration also.”


"He stays in there really tough on the left-handers so no, I would not say that. Where we are right now is we have other players we’re looking to get into the lineup that really their strength is hitting off left-handed pitching. I think it’s all going to work out."

[Kc61]

Ervin hit .349 and had 1.038 OPS against left handers last year. Can't leave that on the bench. Maybe he DH's instead of Colon. But Bell wants to start with a right handed lineup and bring Shogo in when Lester leaves.

This Ervin 2019 stat against LHP is being overrated on here.

It was 95 PAs last season. In 2018, in 73 PAs, he hit .749 OPS against lefties with a .301 OBP.

I don’t mind the platoon, and Ervin is a pretty good bench player. I would have traded Phil to make room for Aquino myself. I see more upside with AA.

[Ironman92]

I don’t mind Ervin in there...BUT I’m not being super patient with him if he’s not striking the ball hard.

I prefer Shogo, Votto, Moose, Castellanos, Suarez, Freddy in there most every day. With the others I’m going with the hot hand. If Aquino go 3-4 with 2 doubles....he’s in there the next night and someone’s gonna have to sit. Winker is allowed to face a lefty and Ervin is allowed to face a righty. Everything doesn’t have to be so calculated.

[JFLegal]

radar is not looking good.

[DocRed]

In Japan, Shogo hit .308/.392/.494 against RHP and .294/.393/.426 against LHP. He needs to be playing every day, especially with Senzel out. Let him hit against LHP until he proves he can't do it. I think Bell is getting too cute here.

I've looked everywhere for Japan splits. Where are you seeing this?

[Ironman92]

radar is not looking good.

It’s ugly now but should move out with a little delay

[DocRed]

radar is not looking good.

A rainout with 2 of our starters out isn't necessarily a bad thing.

[Ron Gant]

Watching WCPO right now. Raleigh said rain/storms thru about 10 pm.

[JFLegal]

A rainout with 2 of our starters out isn't necessarily a bad thing.

i just want to watch reds baseball.

[DocRed]

Christian Colon career .683 OPS vs LHP....got it Bell

[Ron Madden]

It’s ugly now but should move out with a little delay

I hope so

[reds77]

I wonder how being a platoon player affects Shogo, I'd assume he's disappointed.

[Ron Madden]

I've looked everywhere for Japan splits. Where are you seeing this?

https://mobile.twitter.com/ctrent/status/1287804519145971712/photo/1

[Ron Madden]

Cincinnati Reds
@Reds
Tonight's game will not start on time due to inclement weather. Umbrella with rain drops

The trusty folks behind AtReds will keep you updated when we know more. (You don't even have to ask!)

[JFLegal]

this year is like crapping the bed while sitting in a dumpster fire.

[PuffyPig]

Lester historically has been real good vs. lefties, but he hasn't been the last 2 seasons.

I would also have Akiyama in playing CF with Ervin being then DH.

[JFLegal]

rain should stop just before 9 pm, per the radar.

[Kc61]

Lester historically has been real good vs. lefties, but he hasn't been the last 2 seasons.

I would also have Akiyama in playing CF with Ervin being then DH.

Aquino should play against lefty pitching. They can also play Shogo or Ervin or whomever, but Aquino should be in there in OF or DH against LHP and probably some RHP.

[WrongVerb]

So during a rain delay, are the players all in the clubhouse or are they out on the concourses to maintain distancing?

[mth123]

Aquino should play against lefty pitching. They can also play Shogo or Ervin or whomever, but Aquino should be in there in OF or DH against LHP and probably some RHP.

If I were grand poobah of the Reds:

Vs RHP

Shogo RF
Votto 1B
Suarez 3B
Moose 2B
Castellanos LF
Winker DH
Senzel CF
Barnhart C
Galvis SS

Against LHP

Senzel DH
Votto 1B
Suarez 3B
Castellanos LF
Moose 2B
Shogo CF
Aquino RF
Casali C
Galvis (Sometimes Farmer) SS

VanMeter and Ervin are the primary PH. Nobody else need play much. That's still 14 guys with defined roles. Probably still too many.

[Boston Red]

rain should stop just before 9 pm, per the radar.

Play two tomorrow, then.

[JFLegal]

Play two tomorrow, then.

nah, there's room to get it in tonight it looks like.

[DocRed]

https://mobile.twitter.com/ctrent/status/1287804519145971712/photo/1

Thanks although that only like 1 season's worth.

[Reds]

I wonder how being a platoon player affects Shogo, I'd assume he's disappointed.

He's probably confused too. I used to watch the Nippon league and from what I remember platoons were rare. I want to see him play daily.

[DocRed]

I vote for making this game up in 13 days or whenever Moustakas and Senzel are healthy.

[PuffyPig]

If I were grand poobah of the Reds:

Vs RHP

Shogo RF
Votto 1B
Suarez 3B
Moose 2B
Castellanos LF
Winker DH
Senzel CF
Barnhart C
Galvis SS

Against LHP

Senzel DH
Votto 1B
Suarez 3B
Castellanos LF
Moose 2B
Shogo CF
Aquino RF
Casali C
Galvis (Sometimes Farmer) SS

VanMeter and Ervin are the primary PH. Nobody else need play much. That's still 14 guys with defined roles. Probably still too many.

The only question I have is Senzel at DH.

He’s likely your best fielding regular OF, and having him at DH means you can’t use him in the field.


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[Reds]

I vote for making this game up in 13 days or whenever Moustakas and Senzel are healthy.



Problem is we might have several more players out in two weeks than we do now. :cry:

[malcontent]

it wasn't a mistake. we'll still have shogo after bell is gone next year. i bet the new manager will love shogo.
I admire the optimism. It's just that I remember Bryan Price flailing away for most of a decade or two.

[JFLegal]

I admire the optimism. It's just that I remember Bryan Price flailing away for most of a decade or two.

even if bell is back in 2021, no way he will be here in 2022, imo. and if he is still here in 2022, that would mean the reds would have had a good 2021 season, so i wouldn't be broken up about it.

the reds knew they had no chance to win from 2015-18. that's why they gave price so much rope imo. bell has the reds team with by far the biggest payroll in club history. if he doesn't win by next year, he's gone.

[JFLegal]

heavy stuff has already gone through and rain should stop before 9. LFG.

[mth123]

The only question I have is Senzel at DH.

He’s likely your best fielding regular OF, and having him at DH means you can’t use him in the field.


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That's because Castellanos seems determined to improve his defense and I give him the chance to see if it boosts his whole game. Otherwise, Senzel in CF, Shogo in LF and Castellanos at DH.

[adkindo]

heavy stuff has already gone through and rain should stop before 9. LFG.

any announced expectation on the broadcast? Do not get anything on MLB TV until game actually starts.

[JFLegal]

any announced expectation on the broadcast? Do not get anything on MLB TV until game actually starts.

they have not announced anything.

[PuffyPig]

That's because Castellanos seems determined to improve his defense and I give him the chance to see if it boosts his whole game. Otherwise, Senzel in CF, Shogo in LF and Castellanos at DH.

My point was that Senzel is the last guy I would use as DH, as he’s likely needed in the field at some stage.


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[mth123]

My point was that Senzel is the last guy I would use as DH, as he’s likely needed in the field at some stage.


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Nah. They got Jankowski. What else could you ask for.

[RedTeamGo!]

I admire the optimism. It's just that I remember Bryan Price flailing away for most of a decade or two.

Most of a decade or two? Wasn’t Price Manager 3.5 years?

[DocRed]

Most of a decade or two? Wasn’t Price Manager 3.5 years?

Dog years

[Ron Madden]

C. トレント・ローズクランズ
@ctrent
Tarp coming off at GABP #Reds #Cubs

[Stray]

8:25 start per Fay on Twitter

[UKFlounder]

Game starts at 8:25 per Reds on Twitter

[Kingspoint]

What's the point of watching the first six innings? The REDS' ability to win will occur during innings 7 through 9.

[PuffyPig]

What's the point of watching the first six innings? The REDS' ability to win will occur during innings 7 through 9.

Except in the only game they won, they scored enough runs to do so in the first inning.


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[Kingspoint]

Except in the only game they won, they scored enough runs to do so in the first inning.


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[Kingspoint]

Healthiest thing to do is to watch for six innings and then go do something else.

[RedTeamGo!]

What's the point of watching the first six innings? The REDS' ability to win will occur during innings 7 through 9.

It’s 2 games, folks.

The bullpen has been brutal, but goodness, it’s 2 games.

[Ron Madden]

Joe Danneman
@FOX19Joe
The #Reds talked internally of selling 1,000-1,500 fan cutouts.
They sold more than 900 in the first 8 hours.

[Ironman92]

Sit back and enjoy everyone....some negative things are going to happen. Stay chill and enjoy the win. Fun thread night.

Go Reds

[adkindo]

It’s 2 games, folks.

The bullpen has been brutal, but goodness, it’s 2 games.

one positive note on Lorenzen's 2 outings and Iglesias's 1 outing is they all started off really bad, but once they gave up the HR, they were in full control the rest of the outing.....still sucks, but it could just be getting over those initial nerves early in the season?

[Kc61]

one positive note on Lorenzen's 2 outings and Iglesias's 1 outing is they all started off really bad, but once they gave up the HR, they were in full control the rest of the outing.....still sucks, but it could just be getting over those initial nerves early in the season?

Now THIS is optimism. Good for you, adkindo.

[JFLegal]

what a great start. ugh.

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wade miley is afraid to throw anything over the plate.

[DocRed]

Are those idiot Cubs cheering after every ball??

[RedTeamGo!]

one positive note on Lorenzen's 2 outings and Iglesias's 1 outing is they all started off really bad, but once they gave up the HR, they were in full control the rest of the outing.....still sucks, but it could just be getting over those initial nerves early in the season?

Personally, I’ve never been sold on Lorenzen, and I think Iglesias is over the hill, but yeah, I doubt they are that bad all the time. Just rolling with Iglesias at closer after assembling the rest of this roster was really boneheaded by Williams IMHO.

[JFLegal]

big out there. let's go.

[Ironman92]

what a great start. ugh.

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wade miley is afraid to throw anything over the plate.

Good....those are home runs

[JFLegal]

Are those idiot Cubs cheering after every ball??

lol, fake crowd noise

[BluegrassRedleg]

Good....those are honeruns

Right. If Meat Lorenzen understood that, they might be 3-0.

[adkindo]

where is Kyle Schwarber from? I can never recall....

[JFLegal]

nice play nick!

[Reds Fanatic]

Nice catch

[adkindo]

Nick with the gold glove play

[malcontent]

Most of a decade or two? Wasn’t Price Manager 3.5 years?
4+ seasons. 666 games. That's right, 666!

[BluegrassRedleg]

Extra fielding practice pays off. :laugh:

[Ironman92]

Thanks to MLB Network I’ve watched several teams and most every player seems to be in better than their typical shape....except Schwarber

[JFLegal]

JFC

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very close, but looked foul

[DocRed]

Boy I dunno that looked foul to me

[Reds]

looked fair to me

[BluegrassRedleg]

Best thing about tonight is not hearing the bandwagon jagoffs in the stands.

[HammerTime]

Is Miley’s fastball usually 87ish?

[Reds Fanatic]

Cubs are being obnoxious from the dugout

[JFLegal]

lol, fake crowd noise

welp, i was wrong. that is the cubs' dugout. they're like an 8th-grade girls softball team it seems.

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this one is over early.

[Reds]

bad start:thumbdown:

[JFLegal]

miley comes out pitching like he's scared ... and this is what happens.

[JFLegal]

slow-pitch softball miley.

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man, i hope the season gets canceled now. would save me some heartache. this team is a joke.

[Reds Fanatic]

Best thing about tonight is not hearing the bandwagon jagoffs in the stands.

Cubs are being extra annoying to make up for their fans not being there

[Ron Madden]

Is Miley’s fastball usually 87ish?

Yes, he's what we used to call a kickball pitcher.He changes speeds and moves the ball around.

[DocRed]

God I hate the Cubs

[Reds]

Is Miley’s fastball usually 87ish?

90ish

[ochoa30]

Man, I really liked all the signings this offseason but Miley had me scratching my head a bit. I know he was decent for the last couple years buts he’s just so meh. Hope he proves me wrong going forward.

[BluegrassRedleg]

They'll score runs tonight because the SP sucks. Not sure if they'll win, but they'll swing the bats.

[JFLegal]

one team is fired up. the other one is managed by david bell.

[JFLegal]

4-0

[Reds Fanatic]

Can we get the rain back

[RedsBrick]

Ole Wade not missing many bats...

[JFLegal]

how terrible is wade miley?

[Reds]

get a long reliever up

[Red in Chicago]

Miley’s got nothin’

[DocRed]

Geezus Miley

[Ron Madden]

slow-pitch softball miley.

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man, i hope the season gets canceled now. would save me some heartache. this team is a joke.

Then don't torture yourself by watching the game. ;)

[wolfboy]

Miley’s got nothin’

He looks pretty terrible. They're teeing off on him.

[adkindo]

Miley gave up more runs in 0.2 innings that our 3 other starters did in 18.1 innings

[JFLegal]

you know it's bad when a covid outbreak for the reds -- that would have canceled this game -- would have been much better news than actually playing this game.

[Ironman92]

Didn’t think Bryant got hit....the 2 out double was fair by an inch and a half. Miley not looking good but luck not going the way of the good guys

[Kc61]

Then don't torture yourself by watching the game. ;)

The other alternative would be for the Reds to field a winning team one of these years.

[Norm Chortleton]

one team is fired up. the other one is managed by david bell.They're kicking ace, but they sound like a girl's softball team. Embarrassing

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[DocRed]

Good God that was awful

[Tom Servo]

That was all with two outs. Brutal.

[JFLegal]

Didn’t think Bryant got hit....the 2 out double was fair by an inch and a half. Miley not looking good but luck not going the way of the good guys

he got hit, barely. i do think MLB should make a rule that if you get grazed by a ball due to you wearing body armour that extends out, it doesn't count as a HBP.

[DocRed]

The only good news is Lester is pitching...course he is gonna prol channel Cy Young now.

[ochoa30]

Well let’s hope for a slugfest for both teams I guess.

[Stray]

Losing 2 outta 3 to Detroit with the starting pitching we got hurts even more when I see the 4th guy pitch.

[JFLegal]

this team has no fire. they are listless.

[BluegrassRedleg]

The only good news is Lester is pitching...course he is gonna prol channel Cy Young now.

Gotta jump on him early. Always the MO with him. He's been terrible against the Reds early in games.

[Tom Servo]

The Royals have scored 10 runs in 4 innings against the Tigers. Can’t make this stuff up.

[DocRed]

Bryant with that stupid smirk....

[TheBigLebowski]

I actually hope the season gets canceled. I can’t force myself to stop watching this filth.

[HammerTime]

Yes, he's what we used to call a kickball pitcher.He changes speeds and moves the ball around.

I know that I just thought he sat in the low 90s. 86-87 isn’t gonna get it done.

[adkindo]

Geno took Lester deep last year

[JFLegal]

I actually hope the season gets canceled. I can’t force myself to stop watching this filth.

i'm seriously with you. i can't watch these underachievers and their beta manager without getting ticked off. i thought reds baseball would be an escape from everything going on. instead, it pisses me off even more.

[Reds]

i thought there was a no bubble gum rule this season

[JFLegal]

washed-up jon lester out here looking like a cy young candidate. which shouldn't come as a surprise after the reds made medicore tigers pitchers look great.

[reds77]

The offseason hype of new players & here we are, Ervin batting leading off. That is worth an online lol.

[RedTeamGo!]

i'm seriously with you. i can't watch these underachievers and their beta manager without getting ticked off. i thought reds baseball would be an escape from everything going on. instead, it pisses me off even more.

Lol “beta manager”

[RedsBrick]

Good AB, Suarez.

[Rantly]

i'm seriously with you. i can't watch these underachievers and their beta manager without getting ticked off. i thought reds baseball would be an escape from everything going on. instead, it pisses me off even more.
I thought reading the game thread while watching the Reds would be a nice escape but with dudes like you on here it pisses me off.

[JFLegal]

Lol “beta manager”

david bell definitely isn't an alpha. he's not leader of men. beta for sure.

[RedsBrick]

The offseason hype of new players & here we are, Ervin batting leading off. That is worth an online lol.

Yeah, I just don't get it. I'm slotting Shogo there until he proves he can't do it.

[DocRed]

i thought there was a no bubble gum rule this season

No chew, seeds. Gum OK

[TheBigLebowski]

I love this team!!!

[JFLegal]

this is great! no worries! buy me some peanuts and cracker jack!

reds will be fine.

[DocRed]

The offseason hype of new players & here we are, Ervin batting leading off. That is worth an online lol.

Ervin crushed that ball and he hit over 1.000 OPS vs LHP last year.

[BCubb2003]

Does Lester still have an issue with throwing to first?

[Kc61]

1. You can’t lose games when you get great starting pitching. Because those starts won’t happen that often.

2. You can’t lose too often to bad teams. Because your NL Central competitors will probably beat those teams up.

3. You can’t get off to a bad start every year. Because it adds pressure that often makes the losing continue.

[JFLegal]

Does Lester still have an issue with throwing to first?

yes

[Strikes Out Looking]

Reds are playing with the fire of 2018.

[Ironman92]

washed-up jon lester out here looking like a cy young candidate. which shouldn't come as a surprise after the reds made medicore tigers pitchers look great.

Uh....Lester won like 18 games last year. Jon Lester knows how to PITCH

[DocRed]

I don't wish C-19 on anyone but I just might make an exception for da Cubs....

[Ironman92]

The offseason hype of new players & here we are, Ervin batting leading off. That is worth an online lol.

Ervin smoked a shot right at the left fielder....he’s not the problem tonight just yet

[Reds]

to be fair to miley some pitchers don't handle a 2 hour delay very well.

[NC-Red]

At what point do we cheer for the Reds to lose every game to secure a high draft pick? Feel like it should be very soon, too many scrubs on this team

[DocRed]

Uh....Lester won like 18 games last year. Jon Lester knows how to PITCH

13-10

[JFLegal]

Uh....Lester won like 18 games last year. Jon Lester knows how to PITCH

lmao. first of all, he won 13 games (not 18). huge difference.

second, win-loss record is not a good indicator for how well a pitcher performed.

third, his stats were terrible last year. 1.50 WHIP. he's washed up. against good teams, at least.

[DocRed]

Does Lester still have an issue with throwing to first?

Does a Bear * in the woods?

[JFLegal]

made wiley.

[adkindo]

wow....

[Roy Tucker]

Rizzo looks like he’s lost weight.

[Reds Fanatic]

This is just ugly

[DocRed]

WTF Miley????

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Rizzo looks like he’s lost weight.

Schwarber gained what he lost

[HammerTime]

At what point do we cheer for the Reds to lose every game to secure a high draft pick? Feel like it should be very soon, too many scrubs on this team

You guys are ridiculous. Good lord. Why do you even watch? It clearly makes you miserable.

[Kc61]

Ervin crushed that ball and he hit over 1.000 OPS vs LHP last year.

Over his whole career, majors and minors, Ervin is nothing special against LHP.

[JFLegal]

do they have the run-rule in effect during this shortened season?

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david ross has his guys fired up.

also, david bell is "managing" a team.

[Tom Servo]

1. You can’t lose games when you get great starting pitching. Because those starts won’t happen that often.

2. You can’t lose too often to bad teams. Because your NL Central competitors will probably beat those teams up.

3. You can’t get off to a bad start every year. Because it adds pressure that often makes the losing continue.
This dude spittin’

[Rantly]

At what point do we cheer for the Reds to lose every game to secure a high draft pick? Feel like it should be very soon, too many scrubs on this team
Here we go already, baseball high draft picks can’t be compared to NBA or NFL.

[Ironman92]

Cmon Ervin!!!!!! Make Miley pitch better !!!!!

[JFLegal]

Over his whole career, majors and minors, Ervin is nothing special against LHP.

fans got enamored with that short sample size last year.

wait, not just fans. david bell too!

now it's 5-0. this team is a joke.

[Reds]

pull wade he aint got it

[Kc61]

Hope we’re not paying this Miley guy too much.

[wolfboy]

This is painful.

[Reds]

bell said you manage like the playoffs so yank him. rain delay didnt help him but you have to send him to the showers

[KYExtemper]

Championship contender, eh?

I know it's only 4 games in and our starters did really well in the first three games, but this is really frustrating to watch.

[TheBigLebowski]

Holy Pancake Grits. Cut Miley. NOW.

[Ironman92]

13-10

2 years ago, my bad

Washed up is silly though.

[JFLegal]

let's get a covid outbreak and cancel this season!

[Tom Servo]

Miley will probably be okay, he’s a guy always on the fine line between success and failure and he had some bad bounces. Not sure why he’s even still in though, I’d have yanked him before Baez came up.

[JFLegal]

6-0. bad news reds.

[Big Red Smokey]

Any chance more rain coming through?

[RedTeamGo!]

Honestly, if they get the whole season in and the reds don’t make the playoffs, Dick has to resign, right?

Right??

[Kc61]

fans got enamored with that short sample size last year.

wait, not just fans. david bell too!

now it's 5-0. this team is a joke.

Yeah, he gave Ervin the leadoff spot against lefties. He sent Aquino down. Analytics!

[adkindo]

our team looks like they do not even want to be out there.....

[JFLegal]

what is barnhart doing? wasn't his kid born 3 nights ago?

[Reds]

gonna be a long night man i planned my entire day around this game lol

[Ironman92]

lmao. first of all, he won 13 games (not 18). huge difference.

second, win-loss record is not a good indicator for how well a pitcher performed.

third, his stats were terrible last year. 1.50 WHIP. he's washed up. against good teams, at least.

Sorry about your ass

“Washed up” is idiotic..just berate Miley for sucking

[JFLegal]

hey, 1.2 innings! nice debut, wade!

[Edskin]

My son walked in, saw the score, and asked if we could watch wrestling instead. Yes son, good idea.

[Roy Tucker]

They may have different players but I still really don’t like the Cubs.

Miley gets yanked.

[Ironman92]

Over his whole career, majors and minors, Ervin is nothing special against LHP.

Over that at bat he hit the ball very hard

[Red Raindog]

Maybe Bell is just a 1 win and 8 loss start kind of guy


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[adkindo]

Disco should be #4

[JFLegal]

Sorry about your ass

“Washed up” is idiotic..just berate Miley for sucking

don't be a salty ass because YOU got your facts wrong. lmao. jerky.

lester is washed up. all the projections for him this year are complete garbage.

[TheBigLebowski]

Disco should be #4

He’s injured

[Kc61]

gonna be a long night man i planned my entire day around this game lol

I’ve seen this game before. Reds will come back. Then they’ll lose. And the announcers and loyalists will marvel at the great comeback.

[TheBigLebowski]

Keep walking, Wade. Don’t care where you go, but you can’t come back here.

[foster15]

let's get a covid outbreak and cancel this season!

Been thinking about this and the fear I have is they will throw away the small data this season and come back with the same bullpen for the 3rd year in a row with their "we only needed to score more runs in 2019".

[RedsBrick]

Disco should be #4

I suspect he will be upon his return.

[DocRed]

The Cubs are a bunch of insufferable pricks. It definitely is a culture that they promote and it starts with that giant prick Rizzo

[TheBigLebowski]

The Cubs are a bunch of insufferable pricks. It definitely is a culture that they promote and it starts with that giant prick Rizzo

I’d love for the Reds to be as insufferable as the Cubs.

[Ironman92]

don't be a salty ass because YOU got your facts wrong. lmao. jerky.

lester is washed up. all the projections for him this year are complete garbage.

Noted

[JFLegal]

another hit batter. holy wow.

[klw]

Any chance more rain coming through?

Even if it does, the game would simply be restarted and completed on a future date. New rule for COVID, the played portion of an unofficial game no longer goes away. Play is just suspended.

[Kc61]

Hey, no worries, it’s only April.

Reds new analytics still of pitching resulting in 3 HBPs so far in two innings.

[KYExtemper]

I'd rather us forfeit the game due to COVID than have to endure this.

[JFLegal]

david bell will get the guys fired up. no worries.

[Phoenix2]

Bell is secretly happy. He wants that starter out as soon as possible. And Miley had a great low pitch count. whoo hoo!

[JFLegal]

this team is so bad there hasn't even been one negative comment about thom tonight. that is ... incredible.

[TheBigLebowski]

COVID = Completely Overrated, Verifiable In Data.

[wolfboy]

Hey, no worries, it’s only April.

Reds new analytics still of pitching resulting in 3 HBPs so far in two innings.

Yes it's clearly analytics that are the problem. Pretty low energy take right there.

[RedsBrick]

The crowd is dead tonight

[Kc61]

Over that at bat he hit the ball very hard

To no avail.

[JFLegal]

The Cubs are a bunch of insufferable pricks. It definitely is a culture that they promote and it starts with that giant prick Rizzo

meh, give me their culture over whatever non-culture david bell has installed over 166 games so far.

[Roy Tucker]

Cubs seem to have mastered leaning into a pitch.

I guess I can’t complain though. Winker did the same thing yesterday.

[TheBigLebowski]

Claimed One Victory, Insert Defeats.

[JFLegal]

Yes it's clearly analytics that are the problem. Pretty low energy take right there.

he has a point though. it's not like ervin had a long history of hitting lefties well. he did it for a very short time last year.

so let's start him over a guy we got for $7 per season who looks like a great handler of the bat!

[Reds]

rookie looks to have good velocity give him some innings here. sucks for him though. you play baseball for years only to debut in front of no fans down by 6

[mbgrayson]

All three HBPs are BS. All three hit the Cubs guys padded arm protection, at worst. The first one actually looked like it missed. The Cubs guys made no effort to move, and on the last one, he dropped his arm down right into the pitch. Garbage HBPs.

Can HBPs be looked at on replay?

[Ironman92]

The Cubs are a bunch of insufferable pricks. It definitely is a culture that they promote and it starts with that giant prick Rizzo

I’d guess we’d like most of their players if they were on the Reds

[JFLegal]

aquino swings at the first pitch. one out.

[Boston Red]

This is depressing. I hate the Cubs.

[Tom Servo]

he has a point though. it's not like ervin had a long history of hitting lefties well. he did it for a very short time last year.

so let's start him over a guy we got for $7 per season who looks like a great handler of the bat!
Yeah that's why we're losing this game.

[JFLegal]

lol, forgot that colon was actually starting tonight.

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Yeah that's why we're losing this game.

no one said that, but good strawman.

[adkindo]

added to the opening day roster before opening day......?

[BluegrassRedleg]

LOL. What a clown show.

[wolfboy]

he has a point though. it's not like ervin had a long history of hitting lefties well. he did it for a very short time last year.

so let's start him over a guy we got for $7 per season who looks like a great handler of the bat!

He was talking about pitching.

[westofyou]

Yeah that's why we're losing this game.

Dead horse meet stick

[JFLegal]

gotta get colon starts in a 60-game season, with shogo on the bench.

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He was talking about pitching.

he was talking about ervin's hitting against lefties.

[Big Red Smokey]

So loss tonight is the equivalent of a 2.7-8.1 start.

So first 9 games of David Bell's 2 seasons, combined record of....

3.7-16.1

Awesome

[Darren35]

I’ve seen this game before. Reds will come back. Then they’ll lose. And the announcers and loyalists will marvel at the great comeback.

That was exactly what I was thinking - Cubs 9 Reds 7. That might be optimistic this year though.

[wolfboy]

gotta get colon starts in a 60-game season, with shogo on the bench.

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he was talking about ervin's hitting against lefties.

Dude. No he was not. I quoted a post that was him talking about how analytics caused 3 HBP by Reds pitchers. Why are you even arguing with me about this?

[NCReds]

Farmer just under that one


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[joshua]

I thought Bell's lineup would be the ugliest part of this game, but it was Wade Miley.

What a joke.

[Ron Madden]

Some folks just aren't cut out to be baseball fans.

Spazzin out on just about every play

[wolfboy]

I thought Bell's lineup would be the ugliest part of this game, but it was Wade Miley.

What a joke.

Who doesn't love a good surprise?

[JFLegal]

Dude. No he was not. I quoted a post that was him talking about how analytics caused 3 HBP by Reds pitchers. Why are you even arguing with me about this?

ok, fair enough.

[Roy Tucker]

Antone throws 98?

[Wonderful Monds]

Each game is basically important as a whole series in the short season. So uh, we’re off to a pretty bad start.

[Reds]

antone :beerme:

[Ironman92]

Will Bryant get 3 plate appearances before Freddy gets his first?

[JFLegal]

tonight's game should have been called off. don't we technically have a covid "breakout"?

[Falls City Beer]

The Reds’ consistent awfulness amid the turbulence of the various crises affecting our nation is somehow quaint and almost comforting.

[JFLegal]

hey, if you had "walking the 9th hitter" ... BINGO!

[Wonderful Monds]

The Reds’ consistent awfulness amid the turbulence of the various crises affecting our nation is somehow quaint and almost comforting.

At least something is still normal am I right

[JFLegal]

Will Bryant get 3 plate appearances before Freddy gets his first?

si senor

[BluegrassRedleg]

That's why they tell you "Hold on now," Creeper and Thom.

[wolfboy]

The Reds’ consistent awfulness amid the turbulence of the various crises affecting our nation is somehow quaint and almost comforting.

I turned to my wife a little while ago and asked her if I really missed being a miserable sports fan. :lol:

[JFLegal]

reds showing zero life. david bell should be embarrassed. but betas kind of expect this. he's probably fine with it.

[malcontent]

All three HBPs are BS. All three hit the Cubs guys padded arm protection, at worst. The first one actually looked like it missed. The Cubs guys made no effort to move, and on the last one, he dropped his arm down right into the pitch. Garbage HBPs.

Can HBPs be looked at on replay?
And now we've handed them Dietrich.

:(

[wolfboy]

Antone looked pretty good there. This bullpen could sure use some help.

[Kilgore_Trout]

It’s been worth sticking around— Antone has looked solid for the most part. Better fastball than I was anticipating.

[DocRed]

OK lets get a couple here

[wolfboy]

It’s been worth sticking around— Antone has looked solid for the most part. Better fastball than I was anticipating.

I really like the movement on his fastball.

[Roy Tucker]

With the state of the Reds bullpen, Antone is showing some stuff. I had no idea he threw so hard. I figured he’d be a soft tosser.