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Ron Madden
07-27-2020, 01:05 PM
Reds
1. Phillip Ervin (R) CF
2. Joey Votto (L) 1B
3. Eugenio Suarez (R) 3B
4. Nick Castellanos (R) RF
5. Aristides Aquino (R) LF
6. Christian Colon (R) DH
7. Kyle Farmer (R) 2B
8. Freddy Galvis (S) SS
9. Curt Casali (R) C
SP Wade Miley (L)

Cubs
1. Kris Bryant (R) LF
2. Anthony Rizzo (L) 1B
3. Javier Baez (R) SS
4. Kyle Schwarber (L) DH
5. Willson Contreras (R) C
6. Steven Souza Jr. (R) RF
7. David Bote (R) 3B
8. Nico Hoerner (R) 2B
9. Albert Almora Jr. (R) CF
SP Jon Lester (L)

sdwagers
07-27-2020, 01:30 PM
Reds
1. Phillip Ervin (R) CF
2. Joey Votto (L) 1B
3. Eugenio Suarez (R) 3B
4. Nick Castellanos (R) RF
5. Aristides Aquino (R) LF
6. Christian Colon (R) DH
7. Kyle Farmer (R) 2B
8. Freddy Galvis (S) SS
9. Curt Casali (R) C
SP Wade Miley (L)

Shogo and Winker out with LHP Lester.

NachoMan
07-27-2020, 01:35 PM
i don't get the Shogo platoon thing -- he hit lefties pretty well in Japan. And I'm certain he's better in CF than Ervin.

UPRedsFan
07-27-2020, 01:36 PM
No word on Senzel? Kind of like Colon and Farmer getting starts here. Insert Shogo at top of the lineup when Lester's done.

UPRedsFan
07-27-2020, 01:39 PM
i don't get the Shogo platoon thing -- he hit lefties pretty well in Japan. And I'm certain he's better in CF than Ervin.

Ervin hit .349 and had 1.038 OPS against left handers last year. Can't leave that on the bench. Maybe he DH's instead of Colon. But Bell wants to start with a right handed lineup and bring Shogo in when Lester leaves.

Reds Freak
07-27-2020, 01:41 PM
In Japan, Shogo hit .308/.392/.494 against RHP and .294/.393/.426 against LHP. He needs to be playing every day, especially with Senzel out. Let him hit against LHP until he proves he can't do it. I think Bell is getting too cute here.

NachoMan
07-27-2020, 01:58 PM
Ervin hit .349 and had 1.038 OPS against left handers last year. Can't leave that on the bench. Maybe he DH's instead of Colon. But Bell wants to start with a right handed lineup and bring Shogo in when Lester leaves.

Oh for sure, yeah I meant to DH Ervin or Castellanos.

Ron Madden
07-27-2020, 02:46 PM
The Cubs lineup has been added to the original post

CaiGuy
07-27-2020, 02:52 PM
Lineup sure looks thin without Shogo and Moustakas.

And, please, you have to play Shogo over Colon. For real.

Otherwise, the Reds have beat Lester around before. They can do it again tonight.

CaiGuy
07-27-2020, 02:53 PM
In Japan, Shogo hit .308/.392/.494 against RHP and .294/.393/.426 against LHP. He needs to be playing every day, especially with Senzel out. Let him hit against LHP until he proves he can't do it. I think Bell is getting too cute here.

Yep, I like that he plays the matchups and platoons...but when your other option is Colon, you gotta go with the better player.

adkindo
07-27-2020, 03:29 PM
Cubs slightly favored tonight.

adkindo
07-27-2020, 03:32 PM
Has Aquino ever played LF in a game? I do think I would go with Ervin in LF, Shogo in CF and Aquino/Castellanos in RH/DH (or vice versa)....

Ron Madden
07-27-2020, 03:41 PM
C. トレント・ローズクランズ
@ctrent
#Reds David Bell said "we're hoping to have (an update) here shortly" on Moustakas, Senzel and Davidson

JaxRed
07-27-2020, 03:47 PM
Has Aquino ever played LF in a game? I do think I would go with Ervin in LF, Shogo in CF and Aquino/Castellanos in RH/DH (or vice versa)....

He played there briefly yesterday. I got no problem stacking the box with righties.

Ron Madden
07-27-2020, 03:47 PM
Bobby Nightengale
@nightengalejr
It's just a day off from the starting lineup for Shogo Akiyama. He's available off the bench. Phillip Ervin (CF) and Aristides Aquino (LF) hit well vs. lefties. #Reds

Ron Madden
07-27-2020, 04:09 PM
What about Christian Colon? Does he hit lefties well?
Bobby Nightengale
@nightengalejr
He hit .331/.406/.493 vs. LHP at AAA last year, so I'd say yes.

TheBigLebowski
07-27-2020, 04:15 PM
Beginning to think it was silly to pay all that money for Shogo as he's clearly going to be caught in the middle of David Bell's Perpetual Tinkerin' Machine. There are plenty of lineup permutations that would have allowed him to play today.

Mitri
07-27-2020, 04:22 PM
Shogo should be starting every game.

JFLegal
07-27-2020, 04:32 PM
Beginning to think it was silly to pay all that money for Shogo as he's clearly going to be caught in the middle of David Bell's Perpetual Tinkerin' Machine. There are plenty of lineup permutations that would have allowed him to play today.

it wasn't a mistake. we'll still have shogo after bell is gone next year. i bet the new manager will love shogo.

Ironman92
07-27-2020, 04:43 PM
Letís win!

Ironman92
07-27-2020, 04:44 PM
I would like Shogo in the lineup every night.

And quit batting Freddy 12th

Ron Madden
07-27-2020, 05:19 PM
David Bell said Shogo Akiyama will not be a platoon player: "We are aware of Shogo’s ability to hit left-handed pitching. But allowing him to have some success in a new country and new league the best we can too, initially here, is worth consideration also.”


"He stays in there really tough on the left-handers so no, I would not say that. Where we are right now is we have other players we’re looking to get into the lineup that really their strength is hitting off left-handed pitching. I think it’s all going to work out."

Kc61
07-27-2020, 05:27 PM
Ervin hit .349 and had 1.038 OPS against left handers last year. Can't leave that on the bench. Maybe he DH's instead of Colon. But Bell wants to start with a right handed lineup and bring Shogo in when Lester leaves.

This Ervin 2019 stat against LHP is being overrated on here.

It was 95 PAs last season. In 2018, in 73 PAs, he hit .749 OPS against lefties with a .301 OBP.

I don’t mind the platoon, and Ervin is a pretty good bench player. I would have traded Phil to make room for Aquino myself. I see more upside with AA.

Ironman92
07-27-2020, 05:42 PM
I donít mind Ervin in there...BUT Iím not being super patient with him if heís not striking the ball hard.

I prefer Shogo, Votto, Moose, Castellanos, Suarez, Freddy in there most every day. With the others Iím going with the hot hand. If Aquino go 3-4 with 2 doubles....heís in there the next night and someoneís gonna have to sit. Winker is allowed to face a lefty and Ervin is allowed to face a righty. Everything doesnít have to be so calculated.

JFLegal
07-27-2020, 05:46 PM
radar is not looking good.

DocRed
07-27-2020, 05:50 PM
In Japan, Shogo hit .308/.392/.494 against RHP and .294/.393/.426 against LHP. He needs to be playing every day, especially with Senzel out. Let him hit against LHP until he proves he can't do it. I think Bell is getting too cute here.

I've looked everywhere for Japan splits. Where are you seeing this?

Ironman92
07-27-2020, 05:50 PM
radar is not looking good.

Itís ugly now but should move out with a little delay

DocRed
07-27-2020, 05:50 PM
radar is not looking good.

A rainout with 2 of our starters out isn't necessarily a bad thing.

Ron Gant
07-27-2020, 05:52 PM
Watching WCPO right now. Raleigh said rain/storms thru about 10 pm.

JFLegal
07-27-2020, 05:54 PM
A rainout with 2 of our starters out isn't necessarily a bad thing.

i just want to watch reds baseball.

DocRed
07-27-2020, 05:55 PM
Christian Colon career .683 OPS vs LHP....got it Bell

Ron Madden
07-27-2020, 05:59 PM
It’s ugly now but should move out with a little delay

I hope so

reds77
07-27-2020, 06:00 PM
I wonder how being a platoon player affects Shogo, I'd assume he's disappointed.

Ron Madden
07-27-2020, 06:00 PM
I've looked everywhere for Japan splits. Where are you seeing this?

https://mobile.twitter.com/ctrent/status/1287804519145971712/photo/1

Ron Madden
07-27-2020, 06:09 PM
Cincinnati Reds
@Reds
Tonight's game will not start on time due to inclement weather. Umbrella with rain drops

The trusty folks behind AtReds will keep you updated when we know more. (You don't even have to ask!)

JFLegal
07-27-2020, 06:11 PM
this year is like crapping the bed while sitting in a dumpster fire.

PuffyPig
07-27-2020, 06:13 PM
Lester historically has been real good vs. lefties, but he hasn't been the last 2 seasons.

I would also have Akiyama in playing CF with Ervin being then DH.

JFLegal
07-27-2020, 06:15 PM
rain should stop just before 9 pm, per the radar.

Kc61
07-27-2020, 06:19 PM
Lester historically has been real good vs. lefties, but he hasn't been the last 2 seasons.

I would also have Akiyama in playing CF with Ervin being then DH.

Aquino should play against lefty pitching. They can also play Shogo or Ervin or whomever, but Aquino should be in there in OF or DH against LHP and probably some RHP.

WrongVerb
07-27-2020, 06:22 PM
So during a rain delay, are the players all in the clubhouse or are they out on the concourses to maintain distancing?

mth123
07-27-2020, 06:31 PM
Aquino should play against lefty pitching. They can also play Shogo or Ervin or whomever, but Aquino should be in there in OF or DH against LHP and probably some RHP.

If I were grand poobah of the Reds:

Vs RHP

Shogo RF
Votto 1B
Suarez 3B
Moose 2B
Castellanos LF
Winker DH
Senzel CF
Barnhart C
Galvis SS

Against LHP

Senzel DH
Votto 1B
Suarez 3B
Castellanos LF
Moose 2B
Shogo CF
Aquino RF
Casali C
Galvis (Sometimes Farmer) SS

VanMeter and Ervin are the primary PH. Nobody else need play much. That's still 14 guys with defined roles. Probably still too many.

Boston Red
07-27-2020, 06:34 PM
rain should stop just before 9 pm, per the radar.

Play two tomorrow, then.

JFLegal
07-27-2020, 06:41 PM
Play two tomorrow, then.

nah, there's room to get it in tonight it looks like.

DocRed
07-27-2020, 06:41 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/ctrent/status/1287804519145971712/photo/1

Thanks although that only like 1 season's worth.

Reds
07-27-2020, 06:43 PM
I wonder how being a platoon player affects Shogo, I'd assume he's disappointed.

He's probably confused too. I used to watch the Nippon league and from what I remember platoons were rare. I want to see him play daily.

DocRed
07-27-2020, 06:43 PM
I vote for making this game up in 13 days or whenever Moustakas and Senzel are healthy.

PuffyPig
07-27-2020, 06:46 PM
If I were grand poobah of the Reds:

Vs RHP

Shogo RF
Votto 1B
Suarez 3B
Moose 2B
Castellanos LF
Winker DH
Senzel CF
Barnhart C
Galvis SS

Against LHP

Senzel DH
Votto 1B
Suarez 3B
Castellanos LF
Moose 2B
Shogo CF
Aquino RF
Casali C
Galvis (Sometimes Farmer) SS

VanMeter and Ervin are the primary PH. Nobody else need play much. That's still 14 guys with defined roles. Probably still too many.

The only question I have is Senzel at DH.

Heís likely your best fielding regular OF, and having him at DH means you canít use him in the field.


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Reds
07-27-2020, 06:48 PM
I vote for making this game up in 13 days or whenever Moustakas and Senzel are healthy.



Problem is we might have several more players out in two weeks than we do now. :cry:

malcontent
07-27-2020, 07:11 PM
it wasn't a mistake. we'll still have shogo after bell is gone next year. i bet the new manager will love shogo.
I admire the optimism. It's just that I remember Bryan Price flailing away for most of a decade or two.

JFLegal
07-27-2020, 07:16 PM
I admire the optimism. It's just that I remember Bryan Price flailing away for most of a decade or two.

even if bell is back in 2021, no way he will be here in 2022, imo. and if he is still here in 2022, that would mean the reds would have had a good 2021 season, so i wouldn't be broken up about it.

the reds knew they had no chance to win from 2015-18. that's why they gave price so much rope imo. bell has the reds team with by far the biggest payroll in club history. if he doesn't win by next year, he's gone.

JFLegal
07-27-2020, 07:17 PM
heavy stuff has already gone through and rain should stop before 9. LFG.

mth123
07-27-2020, 07:21 PM
The only question I have is Senzel at DH.

He’s likely your best fielding regular OF, and having him at DH means you can’t use him in the field.


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That's because Castellanos seems determined to improve his defense and I give him the chance to see if it boosts his whole game. Otherwise, Senzel in CF, Shogo in LF and Castellanos at DH.

adkindo
07-27-2020, 07:25 PM
heavy stuff has already gone through and rain should stop before 9. LFG.

any announced expectation on the broadcast? Do not get anything on MLB TV until game actually starts.

JFLegal
07-27-2020, 07:36 PM
any announced expectation on the broadcast? Do not get anything on MLB TV until game actually starts.

they have not announced anything.

PuffyPig
07-27-2020, 07:36 PM
That's because Castellanos seems determined to improve his defense and I give him the chance to see if it boosts his whole game. Otherwise, Senzel in CF, Shogo in LF and Castellanos at DH.

My point was that Senzel is the last guy I would use as DH, as heís likely needed in the field at some stage.


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mth123
07-27-2020, 07:37 PM
My point was that Senzel is the last guy I would use as DH, as he’s likely needed in the field at some stage.


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Nah. They got Jankowski. What else could you ask for.

RedTeamGo!
07-27-2020, 07:44 PM
I admire the optimism. It's just that I remember Bryan Price flailing away for most of a decade or two.

Most of a decade or two? Wasn’t Price Manager 3.5 years?

DocRed
07-27-2020, 07:48 PM
Most of a decade or two? Wasn’t Price Manager 3.5 years?

Dog years

Ron Madden
07-27-2020, 07:49 PM
C. トレント・ローズクランズ
@ctrent
Tarp coming off at GABP #Reds #Cubs

Stray
07-27-2020, 07:52 PM
8:25 start per Fay on Twitter

UKFlounder
07-27-2020, 07:53 PM
Game starts at 8:25 per Reds on Twitter

Kingspoint
07-27-2020, 08:02 PM
What's the point of watching the first six innings? The REDS' ability to win will occur during innings 7 through 9.

PuffyPig
07-27-2020, 08:04 PM
What's the point of watching the first six innings? The REDS' ability to win will occur during innings 7 through 9.

Except in the only game they won, they scored enough runs to do so in the first inning.


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Kingspoint
07-27-2020, 08:08 PM
Except in the only game they won, they scored enough runs to do so in the first inning.


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Kingspoint
07-27-2020, 08:09 PM
Healthiest thing to do is to watch for six innings and then go do something else.

RedTeamGo!
07-27-2020, 08:10 PM
What's the point of watching the first six innings? The REDS' ability to win will occur during innings 7 through 9.

It’s 2 games, folks.

The bullpen has been brutal, but goodness, it’s 2 games.

Ron Madden
07-27-2020, 08:18 PM
Joe Danneman
@FOX19Joe
The #Reds talked internally of selling 1,000-1,500 fan cutouts.
They sold more than 900 in the first 8 hours.

Ironman92
07-27-2020, 08:25 PM
Sit back and enjoy everyone....some negative things are going to happen. Stay chill and enjoy the win. Fun thread night.

Go Reds

adkindo
07-27-2020, 08:28 PM
It’s 2 games, folks.

The bullpen has been brutal, but goodness, it’s 2 games.

one positive note on Lorenzen's 2 outings and Iglesias's 1 outing is they all started off really bad, but once they gave up the HR, they were in full control the rest of the outing.....still sucks, but it could just be getting over those initial nerves early in the season?

Kc61
07-27-2020, 08:29 PM
one positive note on Lorenzen's 2 outings and Iglesias's 1 outing is they all started off really bad, but once they gave up the HR, they were in full control the rest of the outing.....still sucks, but it could just be getting over those initial nerves early in the season?

Now THIS is optimism. Good for you, adkindo.

JFLegal
07-27-2020, 08:30 PM
what a great start. ugh.

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wade miley is afraid to throw anything over the plate.

DocRed
07-27-2020, 08:30 PM
Are those idiot Cubs cheering after every ball??

RedTeamGo!
07-27-2020, 08:30 PM
one positive note on Lorenzen's 2 outings and Iglesias's 1 outing is they all started off really bad, but once they gave up the HR, they were in full control the rest of the outing.....still sucks, but it could just be getting over those initial nerves early in the season?

Personally, I’ve never been sold on Lorenzen, and I think Iglesias is over the hill, but yeah, I doubt they are that bad all the time. Just rolling with Iglesias at closer after assembling the rest of this roster was really boneheaded by Williams IMHO.

JFLegal
07-27-2020, 08:31 PM
big out there. let's go.

Ironman92
07-27-2020, 08:31 PM
what a great start. ugh.

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wade miley is afraid to throw anything over the plate.

Good....those are home runs

JFLegal
07-27-2020, 08:31 PM
Are those idiot Cubs cheering after every ball??

lol, fake crowd noise

BluegrassRedleg
07-27-2020, 08:31 PM
Good....those are honeruns

Right. If Meat Lorenzen understood that, they might be 3-0.

adkindo
07-27-2020, 08:32 PM
where is Kyle Schwarber from? I can never recall....

JFLegal
07-27-2020, 08:33 PM
nice play nick!

Reds Fanatic
07-27-2020, 08:33 PM
Nice catch

adkindo
07-27-2020, 08:33 PM
Nick with the gold glove play

malcontent
07-27-2020, 08:33 PM
Most of a decade or two? Wasnít Price Manager 3.5 years?
4+ seasons. 666 games. That's right, 666!

BluegrassRedleg
07-27-2020, 08:33 PM
Extra fielding practice pays off. :laugh:

Ironman92
07-27-2020, 08:33 PM
Thanks to MLB Network Iíve watched several teams and most every player seems to be in better than their typical shape....except Schwarber

JFLegal
07-27-2020, 08:34 PM
JFC

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very close, but looked foul

DocRed
07-27-2020, 08:35 PM
Boy I dunno that looked foul to me

Reds
07-27-2020, 08:35 PM
looked fair to me

BluegrassRedleg
07-27-2020, 08:35 PM
Best thing about tonight is not hearing the bandwagon jagoffs in the stands.

HammerTime
07-27-2020, 08:35 PM
Is Mileyís fastball usually 87ish?

Reds Fanatic
07-27-2020, 08:36 PM
Cubs are being obnoxious from the dugout

JFLegal
07-27-2020, 08:36 PM
lol, fake crowd noise

welp, i was wrong. that is the cubs' dugout. they're like an 8th-grade girls softball team it seems.

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this one is over early.

Reds
07-27-2020, 08:37 PM
bad start:thumbdown:

JFLegal
07-27-2020, 08:37 PM
miley comes out pitching like he's scared ... and this is what happens.

JFLegal
07-27-2020, 08:37 PM
slow-pitch softball miley.

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man, i hope the season gets canceled now. would save me some heartache. this team is a joke.

Reds Fanatic
07-27-2020, 08:38 PM
Best thing about tonight is not hearing the bandwagon jagoffs in the stands.

Cubs are being extra annoying to make up for their fans not being there

Ron Madden
07-27-2020, 08:38 PM
Is Miley’s fastball usually 87ish?

Yes, he's what we used to call a kickball pitcher.He changes speeds and moves the ball around.

DocRed
07-27-2020, 08:38 PM
God I hate the Cubs

Reds
07-27-2020, 08:38 PM
Is Miley’s fastball usually 87ish?

90ish

ochoa30
07-27-2020, 08:39 PM
Man, I really liked all the signings this offseason but Miley had me scratching my head a bit. I know he was decent for the last couple years buts he’s just so meh. Hope he proves me wrong going forward.

BluegrassRedleg
07-27-2020, 08:39 PM
They'll score runs tonight because the SP sucks. Not sure if they'll win, but they'll swing the bats.

JFLegal
07-27-2020, 08:39 PM
one team is fired up. the other one is managed by david bell.

JFLegal
07-27-2020, 08:39 PM
4-0

Reds Fanatic
07-27-2020, 08:39 PM
Can we get the rain back

RedsBrick
07-27-2020, 08:39 PM
Ole Wade not missing many bats...

JFLegal
07-27-2020, 08:39 PM
how terrible is wade miley?

Reds
07-27-2020, 08:39 PM
get a long reliever up

Red in Chicago
07-27-2020, 08:39 PM
Miley’s got nothin’

DocRed
07-27-2020, 08:40 PM
Geezus Miley

Ron Madden
07-27-2020, 08:40 PM
slow-pitch softball miley.

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man, i hope the season gets canceled now. would save me some heartache. this team is a joke.

Then don't torture yourself by watching the game. ;)

wolfboy
07-27-2020, 08:40 PM
Miley’s got nothin’

He looks pretty terrible. They're teeing off on him.

adkindo
07-27-2020, 08:40 PM
Miley gave up more runs in 0.2 innings that our 3 other starters did in 18.1 innings

JFLegal
07-27-2020, 08:40 PM
you know it's bad when a covid outbreak for the reds -- that would have canceled this game -- would have been much better news than actually playing this game.

Ironman92
07-27-2020, 08:41 PM
Didnít think Bryant got hit....the 2 out double was fair by an inch and a half. Miley not looking good but luck not going the way of the good guys

Kc61
07-27-2020, 08:41 PM
Then don't torture yourself by watching the game. ;)

The other alternative would be for the Reds to field a winning team one of these years.

Norm Chortleton
07-27-2020, 08:41 PM
one team is fired up. the other one is managed by david bell.They're kicking ace, but they sound like a girl's softball team. Embarrassing

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DocRed
07-27-2020, 08:42 PM
Good God that was awful

Tom Servo
07-27-2020, 08:42 PM
That was all with two outs. Brutal.

JFLegal
07-27-2020, 08:42 PM
Didn’t think Bryant got hit....the 2 out double was fair by an inch and a half. Miley not looking good but luck not going the way of the good guys

he got hit, barely. i do think MLB should make a rule that if you get grazed by a ball due to you wearing body armour that extends out, it doesn't count as a HBP.

DocRed
07-27-2020, 08:43 PM
The only good news is Lester is pitching...course he is gonna prol channel Cy Young now.

ochoa30
07-27-2020, 08:43 PM
Well let’s hope for a slugfest for both teams I guess.

Stray
07-27-2020, 08:43 PM
Losing 2 outta 3 to Detroit with the starting pitching we got hurts even more when I see the 4th guy pitch.

JFLegal
07-27-2020, 08:43 PM
this team has no fire. they are listless.

BluegrassRedleg
07-27-2020, 08:43 PM
The only good news is Lester is pitching...course he is gonna prol channel Cy Young now.

Gotta jump on him early. Always the MO with him. He's been terrible against the Reds early in games.

Tom Servo
07-27-2020, 08:44 PM
The Royals have scored 10 runs in 4 innings against the Tigers. Can’t make this stuff up.

DocRed
07-27-2020, 08:45 PM
Bryant with that stupid smirk....

TheBigLebowski
07-27-2020, 08:45 PM
I actually hope the season gets canceled. I can’t force myself to stop watching this filth.

HammerTime
07-27-2020, 08:45 PM
Yes, he's what we used to call a kickball pitcher.He changes speeds and moves the ball around.

I know that I just thought he sat in the low 90s. 86-87 isnít gonna get it done.

adkindo
07-27-2020, 08:46 PM
Geno took Lester deep last year

JFLegal
07-27-2020, 08:46 PM
I actually hope the season gets canceled. I can’t force myself to stop watching this filth.

i'm seriously with you. i can't watch these underachievers and their beta manager without getting ticked off. i thought reds baseball would be an escape from everything going on. instead, it pisses me off even more.

Reds
07-27-2020, 08:47 PM
i thought there was a no bubble gum rule this season

JFLegal
07-27-2020, 08:48 PM
washed-up jon lester out here looking like a cy young candidate. which shouldn't come as a surprise after the reds made medicore tigers pitchers look great.

reds77
07-27-2020, 08:48 PM
The offseason hype of new players & here we are, Ervin batting leading off. That is worth an online lol.

RedTeamGo!
07-27-2020, 08:49 PM
i'm seriously with you. i can't watch these underachievers and their beta manager without getting ticked off. i thought reds baseball would be an escape from everything going on. instead, it pisses me off even more.

Lol “beta manager”

RedsBrick
07-27-2020, 08:49 PM
Good AB, Suarez.

Rantly
07-27-2020, 08:51 PM
i'm seriously with you. i can't watch these underachievers and their beta manager without getting ticked off. i thought reds baseball would be an escape from everything going on. instead, it pisses me off even more.
I thought reading the game thread while watching the Reds would be a nice escape but with dudes like you on here it pisses me off.

JFLegal
07-27-2020, 08:51 PM
Lol “beta manager”

david bell definitely isn't an alpha. he's not leader of men. beta for sure.

RedsBrick
07-27-2020, 08:51 PM
The offseason hype of new players & here we are, Ervin batting leading off. That is worth an online lol.

Yeah, I just don't get it. I'm slotting Shogo there until he proves he can't do it.

DocRed
07-27-2020, 08:51 PM
i thought there was a no bubble gum rule this season

No chew, seeds. Gum OK

TheBigLebowski
07-27-2020, 08:51 PM
I love this team!!!

JFLegal
07-27-2020, 08:52 PM
this is great! no worries! buy me some peanuts and cracker jack!

reds will be fine.

DocRed
07-27-2020, 08:52 PM
The offseason hype of new players & here we are, Ervin batting leading off. That is worth an online lol.

Ervin crushed that ball and he hit over 1.000 OPS vs LHP last year.

BCubb2003
07-27-2020, 08:53 PM
Does Lester still have an issue with throwing to first?

Kc61
07-27-2020, 08:53 PM
1. You can’t lose games when you get great starting pitching. Because those starts won’t happen that often.

2. You can’t lose too often to bad teams. Because your NL Central competitors will probably beat those teams up.

3. You can’t get off to a bad start every year. Because it adds pressure that often makes the losing continue.

JFLegal
07-27-2020, 08:53 PM
Does Lester still have an issue with throwing to first?

yes

Strikes Out Looking
07-27-2020, 08:53 PM
Reds are playing with the fire of 2018.

Ironman92
07-27-2020, 08:54 PM
washed-up jon lester out here looking like a cy young candidate. which shouldn't come as a surprise after the reds made medicore tigers pitchers look great.

Uh....Lester won like 18 games last year. Jon Lester knows how to PITCH

DocRed
07-27-2020, 08:54 PM
I don't wish C-19 on anyone but I just might make an exception for da Cubs....

Ironman92
07-27-2020, 08:55 PM
The offseason hype of new players & here we are, Ervin batting leading off. That is worth an online lol.

Ervin smoked a shot right at the left fielder....heís not the problem tonight just yet

Reds
07-27-2020, 08:55 PM
to be fair to miley some pitchers don't handle a 2 hour delay very well.

NC-Red
07-27-2020, 08:55 PM
At what point do we cheer for the Reds to lose every game to secure a high draft pick? Feel like it should be very soon, too many scrubs on this team

DocRed
07-27-2020, 08:55 PM
Uh....Lester won like 18 games last year. Jon Lester knows how to PITCH

13-10

JFLegal
07-27-2020, 08:55 PM
Uh....Lester won like 18 games last year. Jon Lester knows how to PITCH

lmao. first of all, he won 13 games (not 18). huge difference.

second, win-loss record is not a good indicator for how well a pitcher performed.

third, his stats were terrible last year. 1.50 WHIP. he's washed up. against good teams, at least.

DocRed
07-27-2020, 08:56 PM
Does Lester still have an issue with throwing to first?

Does a Bear * in the woods?

JFLegal
07-27-2020, 08:56 PM
made wiley.

adkindo
07-27-2020, 08:57 PM
wow....

Roy Tucker
07-27-2020, 08:57 PM
Rizzo looks like he’s lost weight.

Reds Fanatic
07-27-2020, 08:57 PM
This is just ugly

DocRed
07-27-2020, 08:57 PM
WTF Miley????

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Rizzo looks like he’s lost weight.

Schwarber gained what he lost

HammerTime
07-27-2020, 08:58 PM
At what point do we cheer for the Reds to lose every game to secure a high draft pick? Feel like it should be very soon, too many scrubs on this team

You guys are ridiculous. Good lord. Why do you even watch? It clearly makes you miserable.

Kc61
07-27-2020, 08:58 PM
Ervin crushed that ball and he hit over 1.000 OPS vs LHP last year.

Over his whole career, majors and minors, Ervin is nothing special against LHP.

JFLegal
07-27-2020, 08:58 PM
do they have the run-rule in effect during this shortened season?

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david ross has his guys fired up.

also, david bell is "managing" a team.

Tom Servo
07-27-2020, 08:58 PM
1. You canít lose games when you get great starting pitching. Because those starts wonít happen that often.

2. You canít lose too often to bad teams. Because your NL Central competitors will probably beat those teams up.

3. You canít get off to a bad start every year. Because it adds pressure that often makes the losing continue.
This dude spittiní

Rantly
07-27-2020, 08:59 PM
At what point do we cheer for the Reds to lose every game to secure a high draft pick? Feel like it should be very soon, too many scrubs on this team
Here we go already, baseball high draft picks can’t be compared to NBA or NFL.

Ironman92
07-27-2020, 08:59 PM
Cmon Ervin!!!!!! Make Miley pitch better !!!!!

JFLegal
07-27-2020, 08:59 PM
Over his whole career, majors and minors, Ervin is nothing special against LHP.

fans got enamored with that short sample size last year.

wait, not just fans. david bell too!

now it's 5-0. this team is a joke.

Reds
07-27-2020, 08:59 PM
pull wade he aint got it

Kc61
07-27-2020, 08:59 PM
Hope we’re not paying this Miley guy too much.

wolfboy
07-27-2020, 09:00 PM
This is painful.

Reds
07-27-2020, 09:00 PM
bell said you manage like the playoffs so yank him. rain delay didnt help him but you have to send him to the showers

KYExtemper
07-27-2020, 09:00 PM
Championship contender, eh?

I know it's only 4 games in and our starters did really well in the first three games, but this is really frustrating to watch.

TheBigLebowski
07-27-2020, 09:00 PM
Holy Pancake Grits. Cut Miley. NOW.

Ironman92
07-27-2020, 09:00 PM
13-10

2 years ago, my bad

Washed up is silly though.

JFLegal
07-27-2020, 09:00 PM
let's get a covid outbreak and cancel this season!

Tom Servo
07-27-2020, 09:00 PM
Miley will probably be okay, heís a guy always on the fine line between success and failure and he had some bad bounces. Not sure why heís even still in though, Iíd have yanked him before Baez came up.

JFLegal
07-27-2020, 09:01 PM
6-0. bad news reds.

Big Red Smokey
07-27-2020, 09:01 PM
Any chance more rain coming through?

RedTeamGo!
07-27-2020, 09:01 PM
Honestly, if they get the whole season in and the reds don’t make the playoffs, Dick has to resign, right?

Right??

Kc61
07-27-2020, 09:01 PM
fans got enamored with that short sample size last year.

wait, not just fans. david bell too!

now it's 5-0. this team is a joke.

Yeah, he gave Ervin the leadoff spot against lefties. He sent Aquino down. Analytics!

adkindo
07-27-2020, 09:01 PM
our team looks like they do not even want to be out there.....

JFLegal
07-27-2020, 09:01 PM
what is barnhart doing? wasn't his kid born 3 nights ago?

Reds
07-27-2020, 09:01 PM
gonna be a long night man i planned my entire day around this game lol

Ironman92
07-27-2020, 09:01 PM
lmao. first of all, he won 13 games (not 18). huge difference.

second, win-loss record is not a good indicator for how well a pitcher performed.

third, his stats were terrible last year. 1.50 WHIP. he's washed up. against good teams, at least.

Sorry about your ass

ďWashed upĒ is idiotic..just berate Miley for sucking

JFLegal
07-27-2020, 09:02 PM
hey, 1.2 innings! nice debut, wade!

Edskin
07-27-2020, 09:02 PM
My son walked in, saw the score, and asked if we could watch wrestling instead. Yes son, good idea.

Roy Tucker
07-27-2020, 09:02 PM
They may have different players but I still really don’t like the Cubs.

Miley gets yanked.

Ironman92
07-27-2020, 09:02 PM
Over his whole career, majors and minors, Ervin is nothing special against LHP.

Over that at bat he hit the ball very hard

Red Raindog
07-27-2020, 09:02 PM
Maybe Bell is just a 1 win and 8 loss start kind of guy


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adkindo
07-27-2020, 09:03 PM
Disco should be #4

JFLegal
07-27-2020, 09:03 PM
Sorry about your ass

“Washed up” is idiotic..just berate Miley for sucking

don't be a salty ass because YOU got your facts wrong. lmao. jerky.

lester is washed up. all the projections for him this year are complete garbage.

TheBigLebowski
07-27-2020, 09:03 PM
Disco should be #4

He’s injured

Kc61
07-27-2020, 09:04 PM
gonna be a long night man i planned my entire day around this game lol

I’ve seen this game before. Reds will come back. Then they’ll lose. And the announcers and loyalists will marvel at the great comeback.

TheBigLebowski
07-27-2020, 09:04 PM
Keep walking, Wade. Don’t care where you go, but you can’t come back here.

foster15
07-27-2020, 09:04 PM
let's get a covid outbreak and cancel this season!

Been thinking about this and the fear I have is they will throw away the small data this season and come back with the same bullpen for the 3rd year in a row with their "we only needed to score more runs in 2019".

RedsBrick
07-27-2020, 09:04 PM
Disco should be #4

I suspect he will be upon his return.

DocRed
07-27-2020, 09:04 PM
The Cubs are a bunch of insufferable pricks. It definitely is a culture that they promote and it starts with that giant prick Rizzo

TheBigLebowski
07-27-2020, 09:05 PM
The Cubs are a bunch of insufferable pricks. It definitely is a culture that they promote and it starts with that giant prick Rizzo

I’d love for the Reds to be as insufferable as the Cubs.

Ironman92
07-27-2020, 09:05 PM
don't be a salty ass because YOU got your facts wrong. lmao. jerky.

lester is washed up. all the projections for him this year are complete garbage.

Noted

JFLegal
07-27-2020, 09:05 PM
another hit batter. holy wow.

klw
07-27-2020, 09:06 PM
Any chance more rain coming through?

Even if it does, the game would simply be restarted and completed on a future date. New rule for COVID, the played portion of an unofficial game no longer goes away. Play is just suspended.

Kc61
07-27-2020, 09:06 PM
Hey, no worries, it’s only April.

Reds new analytics still of pitching resulting in 3 HBPs so far in two innings.

KYExtemper
07-27-2020, 09:06 PM
I'd rather us forfeit the game due to COVID than have to endure this.

JFLegal
07-27-2020, 09:06 PM
david bell will get the guys fired up. no worries.

Phoenix2
07-27-2020, 09:07 PM
Bell is secretly happy. He wants that starter out as soon as possible. And Miley had a great low pitch count. whoo hoo!

JFLegal
07-27-2020, 09:07 PM
this team is so bad there hasn't even been one negative comment about thom tonight. that is ... incredible.

TheBigLebowski
07-27-2020, 09:07 PM
COVID = Completely Overrated, Verifiable In Data.

wolfboy
07-27-2020, 09:08 PM
Hey, no worries, it’s only April.

Reds new analytics still of pitching resulting in 3 HBPs so far in two innings.

Yes it's clearly analytics that are the problem. Pretty low energy take right there.

RedsBrick
07-27-2020, 09:08 PM
The crowd is dead tonight

Kc61
07-27-2020, 09:08 PM
Over that at bat he hit the ball very hard

To no avail.

JFLegal
07-27-2020, 09:08 PM
The Cubs are a bunch of insufferable pricks. It definitely is a culture that they promote and it starts with that giant prick Rizzo

meh, give me their culture over whatever non-culture david bell has installed over 166 games so far.

Roy Tucker
07-27-2020, 09:09 PM
Cubs seem to have mastered leaning into a pitch.

I guess I can’t complain though. Winker did the same thing yesterday.

TheBigLebowski
07-27-2020, 09:09 PM
Claimed One Victory, Insert Defeats.

JFLegal
07-27-2020, 09:09 PM
Yes it's clearly analytics that are the problem. Pretty low energy take right there.

he has a point though. it's not like ervin had a long history of hitting lefties well. he did it for a very short time last year.

so let's start him over a guy we got for $7 per season who looks like a great handler of the bat!

Reds
07-27-2020, 09:09 PM
rookie looks to have good velocity give him some innings here. sucks for him though. you play baseball for years only to debut in front of no fans down by 6

mbgrayson
07-27-2020, 09:10 PM
All three HBPs are BS. All three hit the Cubs guys padded arm protection, at worst. The first one actually looked like it missed. The Cubs guys made no effort to move, and on the last one, he dropped his arm down right into the pitch. Garbage HBPs.

Can HBPs be looked at on replay?

Ironman92
07-27-2020, 09:10 PM
The Cubs are a bunch of insufferable pricks. It definitely is a culture that they promote and it starts with that giant prick Rizzo

Iíd guess weíd like most of their players if they were on the Reds

JFLegal
07-27-2020, 09:10 PM
aquino swings at the first pitch. one out.

Boston Red
07-27-2020, 09:11 PM
This is depressing. I hate the Cubs.

Tom Servo
07-27-2020, 09:11 PM
he has a point though. it's not like ervin had a long history of hitting lefties well. he did it for a very short time last year.

so let's start him over a guy we got for $7 per season who looks like a great handler of the bat!
Yeah that's why we're losing this game.

JFLegal
07-27-2020, 09:11 PM
lol, forgot that colon was actually starting tonight.

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Yeah that's why we're losing this game.

no one said that, but good strawman.

adkindo
07-27-2020, 09:11 PM
added to the opening day roster before opening day......?

BluegrassRedleg
07-27-2020, 09:11 PM
LOL. What a clown show.

wolfboy
07-27-2020, 09:11 PM
he has a point though. it's not like ervin had a long history of hitting lefties well. he did it for a very short time last year.

so let's start him over a guy we got for $7 per season who looks like a great handler of the bat!

He was talking about pitching.

westofyou
07-27-2020, 09:12 PM
Yeah that's why we're losing this game.

Dead horse meet stick

JFLegal
07-27-2020, 09:12 PM
gotta get colon starts in a 60-game season, with shogo on the bench.

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He was talking about pitching.

he was talking about ervin's hitting against lefties.

Big Red Smokey
07-27-2020, 09:13 PM
So loss tonight is the equivalent of a 2.7-8.1 start.

So first 9 games of David Bell's 2 seasons, combined record of....

3.7-16.1

Awesome

Darren35
07-27-2020, 09:14 PM
Iíve seen this game before. Reds will come back. Then theyíll lose. And the announcers and loyalists will marvel at the great comeback.

That was exactly what I was thinking - Cubs 9 Reds 7. That might be optimistic this year though.

wolfboy
07-27-2020, 09:14 PM
gotta get colon starts in a 60-game season, with shogo on the bench.

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he was talking about ervin's hitting against lefties.

Dude. No he was not. I quoted a post that was him talking about how analytics caused 3 HBP by Reds pitchers. Why are you even arguing with me about this?

NCReds
07-27-2020, 09:15 PM
Farmer just under that one


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joshua
07-27-2020, 09:15 PM
I thought Bell's lineup would be the ugliest part of this game, but it was Wade Miley.

What a joke.

Ron Madden
07-27-2020, 09:16 PM
Some folks just aren't cut out to be baseball fans.

Spazzin out on just about every play

wolfboy
07-27-2020, 09:16 PM
I thought Bell's lineup would be the ugliest part of this game, but it was Wade Miley.

What a joke.

Who doesn't love a good surprise?

JFLegal
07-27-2020, 09:16 PM
Dude. No he was not. I quoted a post that was him talking about how analytics caused 3 HBP by Reds pitchers. Why are you even arguing with me about this?

ok, fair enough.

Roy Tucker
07-27-2020, 09:17 PM
Antone throws 98?

Wonderful Monds
07-27-2020, 09:17 PM
Each game is basically important as a whole series in the short season. So uh, we’re off to a pretty bad start.

Reds
07-27-2020, 09:17 PM
antone :beerme:

Ironman92
07-27-2020, 09:18 PM
Will Bryant get 3 plate appearances before Freddy gets his first?

JFLegal
07-27-2020, 09:18 PM
tonight's game should have been called off. don't we technically have a covid "breakout"?

Falls City Beer
07-27-2020, 09:19 PM
The Reds’ consistent awfulness amid the turbulence of the various crises affecting our nation is somehow quaint and almost comforting.

JFLegal
07-27-2020, 09:20 PM
hey, if you had "walking the 9th hitter" ... BINGO!

Wonderful Monds
07-27-2020, 09:20 PM
The Reds’ consistent awfulness amid the turbulence of the various crises affecting our nation is somehow quaint and almost comforting.

At least something is still normal am I right

JFLegal
07-27-2020, 09:20 PM
Will Bryant get 3 plate appearances before Freddy gets his first?

si senor

BluegrassRedleg
07-27-2020, 09:20 PM
That's why they tell you "Hold on now," Creeper and Thom.

wolfboy
07-27-2020, 09:20 PM
The Reds’ consistent awfulness amid the turbulence of the various crises affecting our nation is somehow quaint and almost comforting.

I turned to my wife a little while ago and asked her if I really missed being a miserable sports fan. :lol:

JFLegal
07-27-2020, 09:21 PM
reds showing zero life. david bell should be embarrassed. but betas kind of expect this. he's probably fine with it.

malcontent
07-27-2020, 09:21 PM
All three HBPs are BS. All three hit the Cubs guys padded arm protection, at worst. The first one actually looked like it missed. The Cubs guys made no effort to move, and on the last one, he dropped his arm down right into the pitch. Garbage HBPs.

Can HBPs be looked at on replay?
And now we've handed them Dietrich.

:(

wolfboy
07-27-2020, 09:21 PM
Antone looked pretty good there. This bullpen could sure use some help.

Kilgore_Trout
07-27-2020, 09:22 PM
It’s been worth sticking around— Antone has looked solid for the most part. Better fastball than I was anticipating.

DocRed
07-27-2020, 09:22 PM
OK lets get a couple here

wolfboy
07-27-2020, 09:23 PM
It’s been worth sticking around— Antone has looked solid for the most part. Better fastball than I was anticipating.

I really like the movement on his fastball.

Roy Tucker
07-27-2020, 09:23 PM
With the state of the Reds bullpen, Antone is showing some stuff. I had no idea he threw so hard. I figured he’d be a soft tosser.