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TheBigLebowski
08-05-2020, 09:57 PM
Well, ballgame. Bad hitting and a horrible bullpen fell these dorks again.

Stray
08-05-2020, 09:57 PM
JVM's throw was offline enough that Tucker had to move off the plate and reach back. Great slide tho, but he's out on an accurate throw.

reds77
08-05-2020, 09:57 PM
Lorenzen is horrible. What happened to this guy?

Overrated by Reds fans because he hit a HR.

JFLegal
08-05-2020, 09:57 PM
This team SUCKS. Tribe should get the brooms out

would be tough to do. unless you're talking about a 2-game "series" which this really isn't. it's a four-game series.

Kilgore_Trout
08-05-2020, 09:57 PM
This team SUCKS. Tribe should get the brooms out

It’s 2-0. You have a total loser mentality. Not a good trait.

TheBigLebowski
08-05-2020, 09:57 PM
This team SUCKS. Tribe should get the brooms out

It would be the first sweep in history in which one team doesn’t win all the games.

podgejeff_
08-05-2020, 09:57 PM
Jesus guys it's 2 runs and there's half a ballgame left.

ochoa30
08-05-2020, 09:58 PM
Offense hasn’t delivered yet outside of 3 guys. Time to get that going. Pitchers aren’t gonna be perfect every night

adkindo
08-05-2020, 09:58 PM
This team SUCKS. Tribe should get the brooms out

brooms? We won Game 1?

Stray
08-05-2020, 09:58 PM
For the record I was fine with pulling Antone, you could see him wearing down over those last two innings. Lorenzen just needs to be better.

paulishuku
08-05-2020, 09:59 PM
Offense hasnít delivered yet outside of 3 guys. Time to get that going. Pitchers arenít gonna be perfect every night

Our bullpen is no where perfect any night. But I agree the offense needs to step the hell up right now.


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EnglishRed
08-05-2020, 10:00 PM
were they really saying that VanMeter faking to 1st rather than just throwing it to HP was 'good play'?

Joeyjection19
08-05-2020, 10:00 PM
That raised Lorenzen's ERA by only 0.19. Calling for him out of the pen right now is just waiving a white flag.

EnglishRed
08-05-2020, 10:01 PM
Lorenzen- debatable how good he is but he's better than that. Have a word son.

JFLegal
08-05-2020, 10:01 PM
cast works the leadoff walk

reds77
08-05-2020, 10:01 PM
were they really saying that VanMeter faking to 1st rather than just throwing it to HP was 'good play'?

Must be a company memo to praise him, VanMeter is beloved.

Ironman92
08-05-2020, 10:03 PM
Any league wide defensive stats yet? Reds cannot rank high defensively ....6-7 positions below average it seems. That inning was a cluster showing about 4 different positions

Ironman92
08-05-2020, 10:03 PM
Weird swing by Votto but I thought he got it

Billy_Bearcat
08-05-2020, 10:03 PM
This ump is real generous with the lower strike zone

TheBigLebowski
08-05-2020, 10:04 PM
Luckily Raley is throwing up in the bullpen.

JFLegal
08-05-2020, 10:04 PM
you gotta be effing kidding me. he's safe. how does that idiot right on the play miss that call?

NC-Red
08-05-2020, 10:04 PM
It would be the first sweep in history in which one team doesn’t win all the games.

2-0 in Cleveland

reds77
08-05-2020, 10:04 PM
What is that ump seeing?

JFLegal
08-05-2020, 10:05 PM
Luckily Raley is throwing up in the bullpen.

lmao

Ironman92
08-05-2020, 10:05 PM
Heís safe...letís move on. Good footwork by Santana though

TheBigLebowski
08-05-2020, 10:06 PM
Even though this should be overturned, this team is the worst I can recall at TOOTBLANning.

JFLegal
08-05-2020, 10:06 PM
WHAT???

podgejeff_
08-05-2020, 10:06 PM
HOW?!

JFLegal
08-05-2020, 10:06 PM
he was clearly safe. what the hell just happened?

Billy_Bearcat
08-05-2020, 10:06 PM
Why even have replay

Banshee
08-05-2020, 10:06 PM
Turrrible.

JFLegal
08-05-2020, 10:07 PM
i hate this world.

TheBigLebowski
08-05-2020, 10:07 PM
That’s disgusting

JP321
08-05-2020, 10:07 PM
Whether he is safe or out... you cant get picked off

reds77
08-05-2020, 10:07 PM
Bell should show some social distancing fire and argue.

757690
08-05-2020, 10:07 PM
Lol at Cast telling the umps that the replay guy is bad.

EnglishRed
08-05-2020, 10:07 PM
That's a shocking decision...Was safe even though he was being blocked.

Strikes Out Looking
08-05-2020, 10:07 PM
I'm not sure how they got that result?

Larry Schuler
08-05-2020, 10:07 PM
What a polite way to complain there by Castellanos. Lol.

podgejeff_
08-05-2020, 10:07 PM
Whether he is safe or out... you cant get picked off

I mean, he shouldn't have...

JP321
08-05-2020, 10:07 PM
We just arent playing good baseball.. no other way to put it. Gotta hope it changes soon

JFLegal
08-05-2020, 10:07 PM
so, instead of two on, one out. the reds have one on, two outs. because of two blown calls. one live. one by the replay idiots.

reds77
08-05-2020, 10:07 PM
Never mind. This sucks.

Kilgore_Trout
08-05-2020, 10:08 PM
Didn’t look like enough to overturn it honestly. An argument could be made Santana blocked his hand from the bag. That seems to have been the rationale on the field, and apparently NY didn’t see enough to dispute it.

kaldaniels
08-05-2020, 10:08 PM
Suprised Welsh defends bullpen roles.

Ironman92
08-05-2020, 10:08 PM
I just donít know what they were seeing. That sucked.

JFLegal
08-05-2020, 10:08 PM
Didn’t look like enough to overturn it honestly. An argument could be made Santana blocked his hand from the bag. That seems to have been the rationale on the field, and apparently NY didn’t see enough to dispute it.

what? he clearly got his hand in there well before the tag, and got by the shoe of santana. it wasn't even close.

757690
08-05-2020, 10:09 PM
Watching the Indians feed. They say that Santana’s foot blocked Cast’s fingers from reaching the bag. The replay was inconclusive on that issue, which is why the call wasn’t overturned. If he was called safe, the call also wouldn’t be overturned.

Kilgore_Trout
08-05-2020, 10:10 PM
what? he clearly got his hand in there well before the tag, and got by the shoe of santana. it wasn't even close.

Not clear enough, or he wouldn’t be out.

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Watching the Indians feed. They say that Santana’s foot blocked Cast’s fingers from reaching the bag. The replay was inconclusive on that issue, which is why the call wasn’t overturned. If he was called safe, the call also wouldn’t be overturned.

That’s how I figured it as well. Didn’t look like enough to overturn it to me.

JFLegal
08-05-2020, 10:11 PM
Not clear enough, or he wouldn’t be out.

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That’s how I figured it as well. Didn’t look like enough to overturn it to me.

no, just because some idiots in new york didn't see it doesn't mean it wasn't clear. they are just incompetent. i clearly saw castellanos' fingers touch the bag and stay there before the tag was on him. apparently my feed is better than the one in new york.

kaldaniels
08-05-2020, 10:11 PM
If he was called safe, the call also wouldn’t be overturned.

Speaking to the Indians crew, that’s what the “winning” side of a bad call always says.

JP321
08-05-2020, 10:11 PM
Reds cant let this opportunity slip away... need Senzel to come up with something here

JFLegal
08-05-2020, 10:12 PM
Watching the Indians feed. They say that Santana’s foot blocked Cast’s fingers from reaching the bag. The replay was inconclusive on that issue, which is why the call wasn’t overturned. If he was called safe, the call also wouldn’t be overturned.

those homers are wrong. i clearly saw it.

The Operator
08-05-2020, 10:12 PM
Just wanted to drop by and say MLB should scrap the replay system. When you continue to double down on obviously bad calls it’s really nothing but a tool to add time on to the game.

Good grief.


What a waste of something that should have enhanced the game.

Reds Freak
08-05-2020, 10:13 PM
I'm curious...anyone know the exact rule about blocking a base? I mean obviously there's no rule about feet blocking a bag, you see that all the time. But I can't imagine you're allowed to lay down on the ground parallel to the base. Is there a specific rule?

kaldaniels
08-05-2020, 10:13 PM
Thom’s all over that pickoff. (Not in the sense it was a bad call)

mgbrown66
08-05-2020, 10:14 PM
This team makes way too many mental baserunning errors.

Rantly
08-05-2020, 10:15 PM
Didn’t look like enough to overturn it honestly. An argument could be made Santana blocked his hand from the bag. That seems to have been the rationale on the field, and apparently NY didn’t see enough to dispute it.
Agree, couldn’t tell by replay. The fact Cast is so sure he got back means it was 1b umpire missed the call so it was in fact not NY’s fault but umpires.

JFLegal
08-05-2020, 10:16 PM
need to post a high-def frame-by-frame of castellanos clearly being safe.

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and the indians get a gift there because the umps want to go home early. and new york is more than willing to oblige.

JP321
08-05-2020, 10:17 PM
This is painful... this offense is just... literally all or nothing. Home run or bust.

reds77
08-05-2020, 10:17 PM
I'm curious...anyone know the exact rule about blocking a base? I mean obviously there's no rule about feet blocking a bag, you see that all the time. But I can't imagine you're allowed to lay down on the ground parallel to the base. Is there a specific rule?

Welsh has a website...

Ironman92
08-05-2020, 10:17 PM
Indians are doing the little things better than the Reds today

TheBigLebowski
08-05-2020, 10:17 PM
This just isn’t a good team.

Rolando
08-05-2020, 10:18 PM
I can't believe 12 games into the season this team's already quit

JFLegal
08-05-2020, 10:18 PM
the reds' offense is like the kevin st. clair of voices.

Billy_Bearcat
08-05-2020, 10:18 PM
The consistent year over year theme is way too many innings between runs. Fall behind early.

Kilgore_Trout
08-05-2020, 10:19 PM
Game isn’t over. Need a good inning from Sims.

Ironman92
08-05-2020, 10:20 PM
Welsh said no one but Bauer touches Sims spin rate but I thought Gray was 4th in spin rate?

JP321
08-05-2020, 10:21 PM
Game isn’t over. Need a good inning from Sims.

Agree... 2 runs does seem like 5 though with the offense struggling

EnglishRed
08-05-2020, 10:21 PM
We can criticise the bullpen, but tonight we have absolutely no offence and some of our decisions in the field have been awful (JVM i'm looking at you). Still there for us to come back but this feels like the entire team is playing without confidence.

JFLegal
08-05-2020, 10:22 PM
We can criticise the bullpen, but tonight we have absolutely no offence and some of our decisions in the field have been awful (JVM i'm looking at you). Still there for us to come back but this feels like the entire team is playing without confidence.

yeah, as shaky as the pen is, the offense has been by far the biggest disappointment.

Reds Freak
08-05-2020, 10:23 PM
I can't believe 12 games into the season this team's already quit

Where do you have evidence that they've "quit?"

Ron Madden
08-05-2020, 10:24 PM
Agree... 2 runs does seem like 5 though with the offense struggling

NM

Kc61
08-05-2020, 10:24 PM
At the nine game mark Reds had a solid team OPS. The batting average was low, but they were scoring runs, getting walks, hitting homers.

They faced two ace pitchers last night and this.

The offense should be ok especially if Moose is back healthy soon.

Nice inning for Sims, does a good job when he can find the plate.

adkindo
08-05-2020, 10:24 PM
I'm curious...anyone know the exact rule about blocking a base? I mean obviously there's no rule about feet blocking a bag, you see that all the time. But I can't imagine you're allowed to lay down on the ground parallel to the base. Is there a specific rule?

think the official rule is you can do a full split as long as your sack is not touching the dirt

JFLegal
08-05-2020, 10:24 PM
nice work there by sims.

texasdave
08-05-2020, 10:24 PM
Kudos to whomever saw the untapped potential in Tejay Antone.

Reds Freak
08-05-2020, 10:25 PM
yeah, as shaky as the pen is, the offense has been by far the biggest disappointment.

12th in MLB in runs, 29th in BABIP.

Ironman92
08-05-2020, 10:26 PM
Nice work by Sims

Ron Madden
08-05-2020, 10:26 PM
Welsh said no one but Bauer touches Sims spin rate but I thought Gray was 4th in spin rate?

Sims is 2nd to Bauer in fastball spin and 1st in spinning the curve ball

JFLegal
08-05-2020, 10:26 PM
12th in MLB in runs, 29th in BABIP.

let's hope that BABIP is accurate and it's just been bad luck.

Ironman92
08-05-2020, 10:27 PM
Sims is 2nd to Bauer in fastball spin and 1st in spinning the curve ball

But is Gray 4th?

JFLegal
08-05-2020, 10:27 PM
but lorenzen is going to throw his glove hard in the dugout! that has to count for something.

and he can bench a lot!

and he can hit! (well, not really)

Ironman92
08-05-2020, 10:28 PM
but lorenzen is going to throw his glove hard in the dugout! that has to count for something.

and he can bench a lot!

and he can hit! (well, not really)

Roid rage joke to follow

Ron Madden
08-05-2020, 10:29 PM
But is Gray 4th?

I think so but really can't remember right now

JFLegal
08-05-2020, 10:30 PM
yet another terrible night by an umpire attempting to call balls and strikes.

adkindo
08-05-2020, 10:30 PM
Perez's motion and stuff reminds me of another Indians great....Eddie Harris

JFLegal
08-05-2020, 10:31 PM
this is pathetic.

Ironman92
08-05-2020, 10:31 PM
Ball not flying great....I thought Galvis ball was hit well

Ironman92
08-05-2020, 10:33 PM
Perez maybe best at just one inning for the long run but heís plenty crafty to get through the 8th

Letís hold them and beat Hand in the 9th...Karinchak in the 8th I assume

NC-Red
08-05-2020, 10:33 PM
Our bullpen is no where perfect any night. But I agree the offense needs to step the hell up right now.
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The offense just sucks, they arenít going to get better. They donít have the talent

Rolando
08-05-2020, 10:34 PM
Where do you have evidence that they've "quit?"
Show me the evidence that they haven't quit and I'll be more than happy to change my opinion

Ironman92
08-05-2020, 10:40 PM
More walks....wild one too. Now give Ramirez a cream puff because you canít locate

Hope and pray

JFLegal
08-05-2020, 10:42 PM
let's go win this game ... somehow.

Cursh14
08-05-2020, 10:42 PM
Show me the evidence that they haven't quit and I'll be more than happy to change my opinion

I mean, what does this even mean? Do you think the team that wins is the one who "wants it more"? These are all professionals. I don't really buy into a lot of this nonsense. It's just lazy nothing "analysis".

Reds Freak
08-05-2020, 10:44 PM
I mean, what does this even mean? Do you think the team that wins is the one who "wants it more"? These are all professionals. I don't really buy into a lot of this nonsense. It's just lazy nothing "analysis".

Pretty easy. When the Reds are behind in a game, they've given up on the season. If they take a lead, they are playing with fire.

EnglishRed
08-05-2020, 10:44 PM
Probably a good job this umpire can't work out the zone because that would have been a 2nd walk. Good recovery though. Please god can the offence show up now.

Ironman92
08-05-2020, 10:45 PM
Good luck Phillip....a good AB here should vault you to the top of the crappy selection of righties vs lefties

JFLegal
08-05-2020, 10:47 PM
jim day just casually mentioning that charlie sheen texts him often

paulishuku
08-05-2020, 10:47 PM
They need to drug test Karinchak.


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Stray
08-05-2020, 10:47 PM
Good luck Phillip....a good AB here should vault you to the top of the crappy selection of righties vs lefties

heh

Rantly
08-05-2020, 10:48 PM
Yet another Indian pitcher that doesn’t get set before he pitches, when did the balk rules change?

DocRed
08-05-2020, 10:48 PM
This team is trash

JFLegal
08-05-2020, 10:48 PM
casellanos with an oppage single. let's go.

Ironman92
08-05-2020, 10:48 PM
Not sure he went but I KNOW it doesnít matter lol

JarrodOnVinyl
08-05-2020, 10:49 PM
Yet another Indian pitcher that doesn’t get set before he pitches, when did the balk rules change?

Nobody on base

KYRedsFan
08-05-2020, 10:49 PM
Joey gonna have a tough time here

JFLegal
08-05-2020, 10:50 PM
welp, this one is pretty much over.

Stray
08-05-2020, 10:50 PM
Our pitchers have a 4 hit 2 run outing going. And it feels like we're losing by 10 with the way we're hitting.

Kc61
08-05-2020, 10:51 PM
After the series Reds might ask Indians for some bullpen pointers.

JFLegal
08-05-2020, 10:51 PM
i would say i don't care. but the truth is, with this starting pitching staff (the best for the reds that i can remember) this team would be very dangerous in the playoffs. you don't want to be in a series facing sonny gray, trevor bauer and luis castillo.

reds need to get their collective heads removed from their rear ends and play better baseball. they might not be great, but they are better than what they have shown thus far.

Ironman92
08-05-2020, 10:52 PM
Difference in the game is defense and base running

JP321
08-05-2020, 10:53 PM
I think for me what is so frustrating, is the Reds seem to do this every year, no matter the roster. These long stretches of bad baseball. It's not like we dont have talent. Sometimes I wonder how serious they take batting practice and if they are trying to hit anything other than home runs

Ironman92
08-05-2020, 10:53 PM
i would say i don't care. but the truth is, with this starting pitching staff (the best for the reds that i can remember) this team would be very dangerous in the playoffs.

they need to get their collective heads removed from their rear ends and play better baseball. they might not be great, but they are better than what they have shown thus far.

Defensively and on the bases Iím not sure they have much potential, could certainly do better but even their best in those areas worries me

Rolando
08-05-2020, 10:53 PM
I mean, what does this even mean? Do you think the team that wins is the one who "wants it more"? These are all professionals. I don't really buy into a lot of this nonsense. It's just lazy nothing "analysis".

Okay let me ask you this what do you suggest to change it because right now they've been awful all season

DocRed
08-05-2020, 10:53 PM
Bell has given up bringing up Raley....cant blame him

Kc61
08-05-2020, 10:55 PM
Bell has given up bringing up Raley....cant blame him

Needs some bullpen for tomorrow.

50YrRedsFan
08-05-2020, 10:56 PM
Bell needs a FULL face mask so he can hide. :laugh:

JFLegal
08-05-2020, 10:58 PM
how do you block/mute posters on this board?

Ron Madden
08-05-2020, 10:58 PM
Good Job Raley

Kilgore_Trout
08-05-2020, 10:59 PM
Nice inning from Raley.

Rally caps!

Stray
08-05-2020, 10:59 PM
If you get 9ip 4H 2R baseball from your staff you need to win the game.

Cursh14
08-05-2020, 10:59 PM
Okay let me ask you this what do you suggest to change it because right now they've been awful all season

An improved bullpen (not sure what can really be done at this point), Moose in the lineup every day, and regression to the mean for many of our hitters. Sample size is absurdly small. I know we have a shortened season, but I don't think there is a ton of actionable information just yet. That said, I really don't claim to know the fix. I just don't think the problem is "them quitting" and other similar platitudes.

JFLegal
08-05-2020, 11:00 PM
this can be done! let's go!

Ironman92
08-05-2020, 11:00 PM
Thereís a chance...and FWIW I thought Ervin a much better choice for Hand who was definitely going to pitch the 9th. Maybe Davidson can win a few of us over.

Hand is susceptible....get first guy on

RedForLife
08-05-2020, 11:01 PM
I just wish we'd swing more at the first pitch strikes right down the pipe. That seems to be the best pitch they're going to see and mostly they just let it go by.

WVRedsFan
08-05-2020, 11:02 PM
If this is a loss, it should be on Lorenzen

Cursh14
08-05-2020, 11:02 PM
I just wish we'd swing more at the first pitch strikes right down the pipe. That seems to be the best pitch they're going to see and mostly they just let it go by.

I hear you, but people will similarly complain about those first pitch swings when they produce outs.

JFLegal
08-05-2020, 11:03 PM
If this is a loss, it should be on Lorenzen

yes, the offense scoring zero runs should get no blame.

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not a strike, but of course called strike 3.

robots, please.

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matt covidson the pinch hitter.

Ironman92
08-05-2020, 11:04 PM
Bad AB by Suarez...shouldíve been up 3-1

Hand is wild

JFLegal
08-05-2020, 11:04 PM
lol, thom thought it was a HR for a second. down to our final out. what a pathetic game all the way around (other than antone).

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Bad AB by Suarez...should’ve been up 3-1

Hand is wild

"strike 3" wasn't even a strike.

Ironman92
08-05-2020, 11:05 PM
Yeah. Ass a 9 Aquino isnít on this team

Ironman92
08-05-2020, 11:06 PM
lol, thom thought it was a HR for a second. down to our final out. what a pathetic game all the way around (other than antone).

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"strike 3" wasn't even a strike.

Iím aware...neither was the 1-1 he wailed at

JFLegal
08-05-2020, 11:06 PM
Yeah. Ass a 9 Aquino isn’t on this team

hey now, profanity. lol

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senzel works a walk! tying run coming to the plate.

Ron Madden
08-05-2020, 11:06 PM
Senzel walks

LeDoux
08-05-2020, 11:07 PM
I must be a bad fan. I just realized Aquino is not on the roster. I kept wonder why he isn't a regular PH. Is this due to service time issues?

RedForLife
08-05-2020, 11:07 PM
C'mon Curt. Blast one!

JFLegal
08-05-2020, 11:07 PM
I’m aware...neither was the 1-1 he wailed at

i just hate that umps get a free pass for missing tons of balls/strikes calls throughout a game. it's not like we're talking about 2-3 calls per game. it's more like 15-20.

Jomama
08-05-2020, 11:07 PM
16364

WVRedsFan
08-05-2020, 11:08 PM
Game over, Dang it.

JFLegal
08-05-2020, 11:08 PM
reds choke on a splinter. native americans win 2-0.

TheBigLebowski
08-05-2020, 11:08 PM
So, so bad. Horrible.

50YrRedsFan
08-05-2020, 11:09 PM
Reds live by the home run and die without them.

malcontent
08-05-2020, 11:09 PM
Imagine taking a called third down 0-2 in that situation.

DocRed
08-05-2020, 11:09 PM
Pathetic offense...HORRIBLE

Coopdaddy67
08-05-2020, 11:09 PM
Yeah. Ass a 9 Aquino isnít on this team

It depends on the version you're getting.

Aquino was terrible the last 1.5 months of the season and failed to adjust when pitchers adjusted to him.

Given Winker and Ervin's struggles, I'd probably lean toward letting Aquino walk up there and hope he runs into one.

It's definitely interesting why he's not on the active roster.

LeDoux
08-05-2020, 11:09 PM
Shutouts suck. That's all I got.

Stray
08-05-2020, 11:09 PM
Yeah We're 20% through the season now and I've seen enough from some of these bench guys. Get Aquino up here and get him at bats. Not like he can hit worse than these guys, and he at least has the ability to run into one.

Ironman92
08-05-2020, 11:09 PM
Reds didnít hit and combined it with poor defense and base running. Didnít deserve to win.

RedForLife
08-05-2020, 11:09 PM
I must be a bad fan. I just realized Aquino is not on the roster. I kept wonder why he isn't a regular PH. Is this due to service time issues?

Most likely our genius FO. I'd rather have Aquino here than Jankowski.

JFLegal
08-05-2020, 11:10 PM
i'm not at all sold on aquino.

that said, i am absolutely sold he would be a better bet than some of the scrubs the reds are running out there. aquino seems like one of those "when the lights come on, he shines" type of guys.

malcontent
08-05-2020, 11:11 PM
It depends on the version you're getting.

Aquino was terrible the last 1.5 months of the season and failed to adjust when pitchers adjusted to him.

Given Winker and Ervin's struggles, I'd probably lean toward letting Aquino walk up there and hope he runs into one.

It's definitely interesting why he's not on the active roster.
I suspect the likely culprit is Bell.

JFLegal
08-05-2020, 11:12 PM
yeah, pretty clear bell does not like aquino at all. jmo.

TheBigLebowski
08-05-2020, 11:12 PM
i'm not at all sold on aquino.

that said, i am absolutely sold he would be a better bet than some of the scrubs the reds are running out there. aquino seems like one of those "when the lights come on, he shines" type of guys.

He’s better than half the guys who get regular swings. That’s a lot like winning the tallest midget contest, but the point stands nonetheless.

JFLegal
08-05-2020, 11:12 PM
He’s better than half the guys who get regular swings. That’s a lot like winning the tallest midget contest, but the point stands nonetheless.

exactly.

paulishuku
08-05-2020, 11:12 PM
3 hits total tonight. 2 from guys that Iím wondering about even being on the roster.

If it wasnít for castellanos weíd be 2-10 right now.

WVRedsFan
08-05-2020, 11:13 PM
Most likely our genius FO. I'd rather have Aquino here than Jankowski.
Yes. Davidson and Jankowski should be on the taxi squad Add Lorenzen to that list.

RedsBrick
08-05-2020, 11:13 PM
Reds don't have trouble stacking up outs on offense. Can't afford them on the base paths, too.

Rolando
08-05-2020, 11:14 PM
An improved bullpen (not sure what can really be done at this point), Moose in the lineup every day, and regression to the mean for many of our hitters. Sample size is absurdly small. I know we have a shortened season, but I don't think there is a ton of actionable information just yet. That said, I really don't claim to know the fix. I just don't think the problem is "them quitting" and other similar platitudes.

Well hopefully they get it going soon. There already 20% into the season there's not a whole lot of time to worry about the law averages

Ron Madden
08-05-2020, 11:14 PM
Box Score

https://www.mlb.com/gameday/reds-vs-indians/2020/08/05/631570#game_state=final,lock_state=final,game_tab= box,game=631570

Rolando
08-05-2020, 11:15 PM
Yes. Davidson and Jankowski should be on the taxi squad Add Lorenzen to that list.
Also Van meter and Ervin should be gone. I really have no clue what they see in Van meter he wasn't good last year.

RedsBrick
08-05-2020, 11:15 PM
3 hits total tonight. 2 from guys that I’m wondering about even being on the roster.

If it wasn’t for castellanos we’d be 2-10 right now.

...and if not for Lorenzen they'd probably be over .500.

Ironman92
08-05-2020, 11:16 PM
i just hate that umps get a free pass for missing tons of balls/strikes calls throughout a game. it's not like we're talking about 2-3 calls per game. it's more like 15-20.

Iím NOT on the umpís side in any way but Iím not going to post every time he misses a call and 2 strikes and that pitch was in the zone mire then any other pitch Suarez saw and it cut just out at last spot....my belief is you need to protect there.

EnglishRed
08-05-2020, 11:18 PM
We scored 0 runs.

Votto going to 1st not throwing the lead runner out at 2nd.
JVM messing about and terrible throw to HP.

It's definitely not just on Lorenzen. He was bad, but we gave up 4 hits and 2 runs. Got to score runs to win games. Got to make those plays.

EnglishRed
08-05-2020, 11:22 PM
this can be done! let's go!

It's the hope that kills you.

JFLegal
08-05-2020, 11:23 PM
It's the hope that kills you.

yes, one day i will learn not to care.

ahh, probably not.

EnglishRed
08-05-2020, 11:28 PM
yes, one day i will learn not to care.

ahh, probably not.

I still actually thought something would happen, Davidson the unlikely hero or something. If only to be able to justify to my wife why I stayed up until 3:30 in the morning to watch the end and I'm too tired to go shopping.

JFLegal
08-06-2020, 12:13 AM
the indians are not good this year. yet, here is another american league team that reds will at best split the season series with.

RedTeamGo!
08-06-2020, 10:37 AM
the indians are not good this year. yet, here is another american league team that reds will at best split the season series with.

The Indians aren’t good? Their rotation is excellent, good bullpen, two perennial MVP candidates in the lineup, good defense, rock solid Carlos Santana, and a few intriguing up and coming position players. I would love their roster in Cincinnati.

JFLegal
08-06-2020, 11:12 AM
The Indians aren’t good? Their rotation is excellent, good bullpen, two perennial MVP candidates in the lineup, good defense, rock solid Carlos Santana, and a few intriguing up and coming position players. I would love their roster in Cincinnati.

that's correct. they have perhaps the worst offensive outfield in all of major league baseball. i didn't say they sucked. i said overall as a team they are not good. yes, their starting pitching staff is good. guess what, so is the reds' starting pitching staff. no one thinks the reds are "good."

they will finish in third place in the AL central imo, way behind the twins and even behind the white sox. only the terrible tigers and royals will be worse than them.

RedTeamGo!
08-06-2020, 11:14 AM
that's correct. they have perhaps the worst offensive outfield in all of major league baseball. i didn't say they sucked. i said overall as a team they are not good. yes, their starting pitching staff is good. guess what, so is the reds' starting pitching staff. no one thinks the reds are "good."

Oh, they have a bad offensive outfield. That makes them a bad team.

Nonsense, of course.

JFLegal
08-06-2020, 12:55 PM
Oh, they have a bad offensive outfield. That makes them a bad team.

Nonsense, of course.

again, i said they are "not good." you are the one who keeps using the word "bad." they are an average to perhaps above-average team. they are not "good" and will end up being middle of the pack in the AL central.

you realize every projection had the reds winning more games than the indians this season, right? oh, you didn't know that, did you? the reds were supposed to be borderline good and the indians were supposed to be average. turns out, both teams are average.

RedTeamGo!
08-06-2020, 02:26 PM
again, i said they are "not good." you are the one who keeps using the word "bad." they are an average to perhaps above-average team. they are not "good" and will end up being middle of the pack in the AL central.

you realize every projection had the reds winning more games than the indians this season, right? oh, you didn't know that, did you? the reds were supposed to be borderline good and the indians were supposed to be average. turns out, both teams are average.

I know what the projections said, I think they are BS and always have been.

Reds Fanatic
08-06-2020, 08:03 PM
Nm

JFLegal
08-06-2020, 08:13 PM
wrong game thread