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Ron Madden
08-05-2020, 02:47 PM
Indians
Mike Clevinger (R)
1. Cesar Hernandez (S) 2B
2. Jose Ramirez (S) 3B
3. Francisco Lindor (S) SS
4. Carlos Santana (S) 1B
5. Franmil Reyes (R) DH
6. Bradley Zimmer (L) RF
7. Jordan Luplow (R) LF
8. Sandy Leon (S) C
9. Oscar Mercado (R) CF

Reds
SP Tejay Antone (R)
1. Shogo Akiyama (L) LF
2. Nick Castellanos (R) RF
3. Joey Votto (L) 1B
4. Eugenio Suarez (R) 3B
5. Jesse Winker (L) DH
6. Nick Senzel (R) CF
7. Josh VanMeter (L) 2B
8. Freddy Galvis (S) SS
9. Tucker Barnhart (L) C

Ron Madden
08-05-2020, 03:29 PM
Teams can name different players to the taxi squad for each road trip.




C. トレント・ローズクランズ
@ctrent
From #Reds: The Reds today assigned to the Taxi Squad RHP Josť De Leůn (#87) and non-roster C Francisco PeŮa (#4).

Coopdaddy67
08-05-2020, 03:34 PM
Don't hate it.

I'm hesitant to move Senzel to leadoff because he seems comfortable and is hitting the ball hard. With that said, his performance compared to what the Reds have gotten in the leadoff spot thus far makes it really hard. Hopefully Shogo gets going tonight.

NebraskaRed
08-05-2020, 03:46 PM
Hoping Moustaskas isn't going on the IL.

DocRed
08-05-2020, 03:54 PM
I have a bad feeling Antone is gonna get lit up today...

Ironman92
08-05-2020, 04:13 PM
Donít like Winker above 7th right now. Van Meter really needs some decent at bats...I prefer Galvis higher but Iím ok with the lineup considering no Moose

Would love to see Senzel 5th....I think his confidence is getting real close to where it needs to be to be a hitter pitchers just donít wanna face.

RedlegJ
08-05-2020, 04:14 PM
I have a bad feeling Antone is gonna get lit up today...

You've seen the indians numbers right?

Ironman92
08-05-2020, 04:42 PM
Votto #1 in strikeout rate

Votto 247th in hard hit%

RichRed
08-05-2020, 04:42 PM
Alternating L-R-L all the way through the batting order. Makes a fella nostalgic for ol' Dusty.

DocRed
08-05-2020, 05:00 PM
You've seen the indians numbers right?

Ya but every dog has it's day

RedsBrick
08-05-2020, 05:38 PM
Alternating L-R-L all the way through the batting order. Makes a fella nostalgic for ol' Dusty.

(Double-checks line-up, looking for Patterson)

Ironman92
08-05-2020, 05:42 PM
(Double-checks line-up, looking for Patterson)

CF bats 1st

RedTeamGo!
08-05-2020, 05:48 PM
I would rather see Farmer sub for Moose than JVM.

Ironman92
08-05-2020, 06:03 PM
I would rather see Farmer sub for Moose than JVM.

Agree...Iíll give JVM a few more opportunities before I write him off

goreds2
08-05-2020, 06:04 PM
Alternating L-R-L all the way through the batting order. Makes a fella nostalgic for ol' Dusty. I think most teams are doing this via the 3 batter min. For pitchers.

malcontent
08-05-2020, 06:09 PM
Reds should try to get DD back from the Cubs. Would that have to involve a trade, or could he opt out if the Reds offered him a contract?

JaxRed
08-05-2020, 06:14 PM
Dietrich can't be added to Reds roster this year because was on the 60 then cut.

Ron Madden
08-05-2020, 06:28 PM
Hoping Moustaskas isn't going on the IL.


C. トレント・ローズクランズ
@ctrent
#Reds David Bell said Mike Moustakas could be in the lineup either tomorrow or Friday. "It could be a lot worse"

DocRed
08-05-2020, 06:36 PM
I'm shocked Scooter hasn't been signed with teams like the Marlins scrambling for warm bodies.

Ron Madden
08-05-2020, 06:37 PM
Just in case anyone missed it.



Cincinnati Reds
@Reds
The #Reds and Cubs will make up last Thursday's rainout as part of a traditional doubleheader at GABP with two 7-inning games on Saturday, August 29 at 4:10 p.m. ET.

malcontent
08-05-2020, 06:54 PM
Dietrich can't be added to Reds roster this year because was on the 60 then cut.
Thanks. Didn't know that. It was only a fantasy anyways. The Beekeeper is gone forever.

JFLegal
08-05-2020, 07:02 PM
Just in case anyone missed it.

lol, did they really say that was a "traditional" doubleheader?

Ron Madden
08-05-2020, 07:04 PM
lol, did they really say that was a "traditional" doubleheader?

LOL, Yeah they mean it won't be a day-night doubleheader

reds77
08-05-2020, 07:10 PM
VanMeter belongs in AAA, wish we could do better.

JFLegal
08-05-2020, 07:12 PM
still glad they signed him, but shogo has been a mild disappointment thus far.

757690
08-05-2020, 07:12 PM
A bunch of complaints about JVM means only one thing. Two homers for him tonight.

paulishuku
08-05-2020, 07:13 PM
Guys can we all agree if Winker fails to hit a dang ball tonight we riot?


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JFLegal
08-05-2020, 07:14 PM
LOL, Yeah they mean it won't be a day-night doubleheader

yeah, they need to clarify their english. lol. nothing "traditional" about 7-inning doubleheaders. lmao.

malcontent
08-05-2020, 07:14 PM
Akiyama seems like a groundout machine, to this point.

JFLegal
08-05-2020, 07:15 PM
pretty weak top of the first for the reds.

TheBigLebowski
08-05-2020, 07:15 PM
Watching Clevinger pitch gives me anxiety

JFLegal
08-05-2020, 07:15 PM
Akiyama seems like a groundout machine, to this point.

and pulls the ball too much, which is a surprise given the scouting reports that he used all fields. teams are even using the shift against him. wtf? scouting reports seem way off on him.

Wheelhouse
08-05-2020, 07:16 PM
How long do we do the Winker/.115 thing?

JFLegal
08-05-2020, 07:17 PM
How long do we do the Winker/.115 thing?

winker is a headcase. can't ever see him being a consistently good major league player.

TheBigLebowski
08-05-2020, 07:17 PM
Antone has to be nails tonight

Jomama
08-05-2020, 07:18 PM
Wanted to hurry up and post before the Reds fall behind lest I be accused of being a troll. Go Reds!

JFLegal
08-05-2020, 07:19 PM
one down, nice work antone (even if hernandez did swing at ball 4).

TheBigLebowski
08-05-2020, 07:19 PM
Antone really looks good. If he has a dependable 3rd pitch he’s going to be very successful

JFLegal
08-05-2020, 07:20 PM
thom should be punched in the kidney every time he overpronounces fran-MEEEEL reyes.

JFLegal
08-05-2020, 07:21 PM
antone is looking good.

NC-Red
08-05-2020, 07:21 PM
This offense cannot hit for ish. Just hard to watch, not enough blame is going towards the offense for the Reds struggles.

JFLegal
08-05-2020, 07:22 PM
1-2-3 inning for tejay.

NebraskaRed
08-05-2020, 07:26 PM
Reds seem to think it's best to swing at the first pitch tonight.

Ron Madden
08-05-2020, 07:27 PM
#Reds batting average on balls in play (BABIP) .233.
ML average .283.
#ToughLuck

JFLegal
08-05-2020, 07:27 PM
da wink with a bloop hit.

Coopdaddy67
08-05-2020, 07:28 PM
Reds seem to think it's best to swing at the first pitch tonight.

Can't really blame them if they get a fastball early. Might be the only one they'll see.

kaldaniels
08-05-2020, 07:28 PM
What I would do to go back to simpler times in 2019 where the topic of the day was a poster on here claiming to have seen a video of Clevinger partaking in some quite illegal activity.

JFLegal
08-05-2020, 07:29 PM
catchers interference! first and second, one out.

NebraskaRed
08-05-2020, 07:29 PM
Good ol catcher's interference

Mitri
08-05-2020, 07:30 PM
Dude needs to BTFU TBH

Tom Servo
08-05-2020, 07:30 PM
I heard the catchers interference but I didn’t see it. Not complaining.

kaldaniels
08-05-2020, 07:31 PM
What was Welsh taking about Leon calling that on himself as in it relates to golf?

mth123
08-05-2020, 07:31 PM
First and Second:)

Van Meter is up:mooner:

JFLegal
08-05-2020, 07:31 PM
van meter lets a meatball go right by him on the first pitch. why is this AAA player on a MLB team?

Coopdaddy67
08-05-2020, 07:31 PM
I don't understand why someone like Van Meter is letting a fastball like that go, only to swing at an offspeed junk out of the zone on the very next pitch.

kaldaniels
08-05-2020, 07:32 PM
I don't understand why someone like Van Meter is letting a fastball like that go, only to swinging at offspeed junk out of the zone on the very next pitch.

He heard Redszone was complaining about first pitch swinging tonight.

JFLegal
08-05-2020, 07:33 PM
He heard Redszone was complaining about first pitch swinging tonight.

thom radioed down to him.

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what the FUG is senzel doing?

TheBigLebowski
08-05-2020, 07:33 PM
Freaking TOOTBLANS

JFLegal
08-05-2020, 07:34 PM
this team is already bad enough. can't be beating yourself.

Mitri
08-05-2020, 07:34 PM
Senzel needs to pick a lane on the basepaths. 2nd mistake in 2 games.

Stray
08-05-2020, 07:34 PM
yikes

NC-Red
08-05-2020, 07:34 PM
Senzel should be pinch run for every time. Dude is dumb as a bunch of rocks out there

JFLegal
08-05-2020, 07:35 PM
van AAA meter strikes out, strands a runner at third.

NebraskaRed
08-05-2020, 07:35 PM
Senzel should be pinch run for every time. Dude is dumb as a bunch of rocks out there

lol

Stray
08-05-2020, 07:35 PM
JVM has been pretty awful so far this year

TheBigLebowski
08-05-2020, 07:35 PM
Enough Josh VanMeter. He’s awful.

Kilgore_Trout
08-05-2020, 07:35 PM
Ouch. Terrible way to end the inning.

JP321
08-05-2020, 07:35 PM
The JVM experiment needs to be over

JFLegal
08-05-2020, 07:35 PM
it's almost as if this is a poorly coached/managed team. tend to shoot themselves in the foot and underachieve.

mth123
08-05-2020, 07:36 PM
Unless you have an elite baserunner who is successful 80% of the time, just forget about the running game.

JP321
08-05-2020, 07:37 PM
Too many Reds hitters like to take that first strike... which is often the best pitch they see

NebraskaRed
08-05-2020, 07:37 PM
Does Thom realize how few games the Cardinals have played?

JFLegal
08-05-2020, 07:38 PM
Does Thom realize how few games the Cardinals have played?

probably not.

NebraskaRed
08-05-2020, 07:39 PM
1st K for Antone as a starter.

JFLegal
08-05-2020, 07:40 PM
antone looks as good as the reds' offense looks bad.

NebraskaRed
08-05-2020, 07:41 PM
And now the 2nd K

ZakkW
08-05-2020, 07:41 PM
Thanks for the college football history lesson, Thom

JP321
08-05-2020, 07:41 PM
Granted he struck out Reyes... but why you would even throw him a fastball even to show it is insane. He cant hit a breaking ball, and I dont care how obvious it is, keep it on him

podgejeff_
08-05-2020, 07:41 PM
That breaking ball DROPS.

malcontent
08-05-2020, 07:43 PM
I got a total of two posts on my VanMeter over Dietrich? thread. Two.

It's as if RZ has been hypnotized en masse to forget how glorious DD was for those two months.

reds77
08-05-2020, 07:44 PM
Thom creating make believe to promote the Welsh site.

sdm24
08-05-2020, 07:44 PM
who had bottom of 2nd for first time baseballrulesacademy.com was mentioned?

reds77
08-05-2020, 07:44 PM
who had bottom of 2nd for first time baseballrulesacademy.com was mentioned?
Hey, it's free!

Ron Madden
08-05-2020, 07:45 PM
3 Ks

TheBigLebowski
08-05-2020, 07:46 PM
I’m sold on Antone.

Falls City Beer
08-05-2020, 07:46 PM
What happened to our actual starter or is this because of the DH?

sdm24
08-05-2020, 07:47 PM
I’m sold on Antone.

His fastball moves a lot and he has a great curve/slider. I just hope he can pitch like this out of the pen

wolfboy
08-05-2020, 07:47 PM
I’m sold on Antone.

I certainly like what I've seen so far. His pitches move all over the zone.

Ron Madden
08-05-2020, 07:48 PM
What happened to our actual starter or is this because of the DH?

It's because of the rain out and doubleheader on Detroit

TheBigLebowski
08-05-2020, 07:48 PM
His fastball moves a lot and he has a great curve/slider. I just hope he can pitch like this out of the pen

I’m not sure he belongs in the pen

podgejeff_
08-05-2020, 07:49 PM
So does every pitcher Cleveland have not bother stopping before their windup balk free?

RedForLife
08-05-2020, 07:49 PM
Iím not sure he belongs in the pen

Me either. It's cursed or something out there.

Ron Madden
08-05-2020, 07:50 PM
Freddy BB

EnglishRed
08-05-2020, 07:50 PM
Galvis works a leadoff walk.. Feels like the first time I've said that in a while.

Ironman92
08-05-2020, 07:51 PM
Thank you Hulu [emoji122][emoji122][emoji122]

sdm24
08-05-2020, 07:52 PM
Do you trade someone to make a spot? You have 6 starters without Antone that have shown that they are good MLB starters.

JFLegal
08-05-2020, 07:53 PM
there's shogo going oppo! that's more like it. double. second and third, one down.

Ron Madden
08-05-2020, 07:53 PM
Double for Shogo!

Mitri
08-05-2020, 07:53 PM
Shogo! ALMOST hit the warning track.

Rantly
08-05-2020, 07:54 PM
nm

sdm24
08-05-2020, 07:54 PM
Granted Miley hasn't shown anything this year but he is a proven commodity. From what I have seen this year I am fine with Disco and Mahle at the back end of the rotation.

Kc61
08-05-2020, 07:55 PM
Galvis works a leadoff walk.. Feels like the first time I've said that in a while.

Galvis has a good walk rate this year, actually. Whole team does. Small sample, obviously.

JFLegal
08-05-2020, 07:59 PM
piss poor at bats from both castellanos and votto there.

i love 2020.

Umkubas
08-05-2020, 07:59 PM
Go Canada Go

NC-Red
08-05-2020, 08:00 PM
This offense is just atrocious. Nothing else to be said, if anything they are just as bad if not worse than last season

wolfboy
08-05-2020, 08:00 PM
piss poor at bats from both castellanos and votto there.

i love 2020.

I'm sure you would have done better. I mean, everyone looks great against Clevinger.

Kc61
08-05-2020, 08:01 PM
piss poor at bats from both castellanos and votto there.

i love 2020.

Reds had some pretty miserable at bats in 2019 as well.

They’re facing some tough pitching now, have to find a way to ground out some wins.

JFLegal
08-05-2020, 08:01 PM
I'm sure you would have done better. I mean, everyone looks great against Clevinger.

yes, posters on redszone would likely do better. solid post.

RedsfaninMT
08-05-2020, 08:02 PM
This offense is just atrocious. Nothing else to be said, if anything they are just as bad if not worse than last season

Please stop! You're making the game threads unbearable. And with that, I'm outta here.

JFLegal
08-05-2020, 08:02 PM
4 pitch walk to start the inning (and to a garbage hitter no less). here we go.

wolfboy
08-05-2020, 08:04 PM
yes, posters on redszone would likely do better. solid post.

Votto's at-bat was actually great. He laid off the junk that Clevinger so often throws and worked a 3-1 count. He got a good pitch up in the zone and got under it. It happens. Hardly a terrible at-bat.

JFLegal
08-05-2020, 08:05 PM
strike 3 ... if robots are calling balls/strikes.

what a joke.

when is MLB going to learn? it's inevitable it will happen. needs to happen yesterday.

podgejeff_
08-05-2020, 08:05 PM
We want robots.

JFLegal
08-05-2020, 08:06 PM
poetic justice. pop out. no harm on that dreadful call.

JFLegal
08-05-2020, 08:09 PM
JFC. bloop hit. we can't catch a break.

reds77
08-05-2020, 08:11 PM
DP!

Coopdaddy67
08-05-2020, 08:11 PM
Hell yeah!

kaldaniels
08-05-2020, 08:11 PM
JFC. bloop hit. we can't catch a break.

Sure we can.

JFLegal
08-05-2020, 08:11 PM
double play! there's a break!

#reversepsychology

Ron Madden
08-05-2020, 08:11 PM
4-6-3 DP!!!

NebraskaRed
08-05-2020, 08:11 PM
Did Thom just have an orgasm?

JFLegal
08-05-2020, 08:11 PM
Sure we can.

"winning!"

(ok, tied, but trying to get into that charlie sheen vibe)

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Did Thom just have an orgasm?

my TV is all cloudy ... now i know why.

Kilgore_Trout
08-05-2020, 08:12 PM
Heck of a job by Antone. Been so impressed with our starters’ ability to get out of jams.

Ironman92
08-05-2020, 08:12 PM
Leave this kid in and let him battle.

So far heís been great. Easily couldíve gotten rattled that inning

EnglishRed
08-05-2020, 08:12 PM
Nice double play to get out of that.

OldRightHander
08-05-2020, 08:12 PM
yes, posters on redszone would likely do better. solid post.

I couldn't, but I can make outs for half their pay. Where do I sign up?

wolfboy
08-05-2020, 08:12 PM
Impressed with Antone there. I love his enthusiasm (not to mention his pitching).

kaldaniels
08-05-2020, 08:12 PM
Did Thom just have an orgasm?

Teeeeeeeeeeeeejay!

JFLegal
08-05-2020, 08:13 PM
yes, antone is very easy to like. good stuff. good mound presence. everything.

kaldaniels
08-05-2020, 08:14 PM
Enough about Costas.

JFLegal
08-05-2020, 08:15 PM
geno with a great AB to work a walk.

Ironman92
08-05-2020, 08:15 PM
Why are people expecting a bunch of 2 for 3ís vs Clevinger who is one of THE hardest pitchers to hit?

Some of you need to watch around the league more....or at least glance up and down the stat leaders

Ron Madden
08-05-2020, 08:15 PM
Geno with a BB

JFLegal
08-05-2020, 08:16 PM
Why are people expecting a bunch of 2 for 3’s vs Clevinger who is one of THE hardest pitchers to hit?

Some of you need to watch around the league more....or at least glance up and down the star leaders

jeez, what a strawman. who expects that? what some might expect is when you have second and third with one out, you should get a run in. that's all. no one is saying a reds' player should hit 5 home runs tonight.

Umkubas
08-05-2020, 08:18 PM
Geno with a BB

A plate appearance

TheBigLebowski
08-05-2020, 08:18 PM
I’ve had about all I can take of Winker & VanMeter.

wolfboy
08-05-2020, 08:18 PM
jeez, what a strawman. who expects that? what some might expect is when you have second and third with one out, you should get a run in. that's all. no one is saying a reds' player should hit 5 home runs tonight.

I don't think you understand what a strawman is.

JFLegal
08-05-2020, 08:19 PM
I don't think you understand what a strawman is.

i'm absolutely sure i do. now i'm certain you do not.

a "straw man" argument would be saying something like "why does everyone expect a bunch of reds' hitters to go 2-for-3 against clevenger" when no one said that or expects that.

you understand now?

Ron Madden
08-05-2020, 08:19 PM
jeez, what a strawman. who expects that? what some might expect is when you have second and third with one out, you should get a run in. that's all.
Nothing in Baseball is automatic

wolfboy
08-05-2020, 08:20 PM
i'm absolutely sure i do. now i'm certain you do not.

You don't. But that's okay.

kaldaniels
08-05-2020, 08:20 PM
Thom will be interviewing Brian Lefevre?

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/845/817/dcf

wolfboy
08-05-2020, 08:20 PM
Nothing in Baseball is automatic

It's as if even the best batters fail far more often than they succeed.

JFLegal
08-05-2020, 08:20 PM
Nothing in Baseball is automatic

"should" does not = automatic.

words matter.

but nice try.

NebraskaRed
08-05-2020, 08:21 PM
That sign has only been hit once, right? And it was questionable whether it was actually hit or not?

podgejeff_
08-05-2020, 08:21 PM
jeez, what a strawman. who expects that? what some might expect is when you have second and third with one out, you should get a run in.

And when Francisco Lindor has bases loaded with 1 out he should at least bring in one run.

But that's baseball.

JFLegal
08-05-2020, 08:21 PM
You don't. But that's okay.

you obviously don't.

well, maybe you do now that i explained it to you. but that would depend on your reading comprehension. so, basicially a toss-up. good luck.

Ironman92
08-05-2020, 08:22 PM
jeez, what a strawman. who expects that? what some might expect is when you have second and third with one out, you should get a run in. that's all. no one is saying a reds' player should hit 5 home runs tonight.

Also remember the top pitchers have electric stuff and buckle down and are competing as well. Itís not BP. Sometimes the pitcher wins. Best hitters in baseball get out 65% of the time on at bats.

Ron Madden
08-05-2020, 08:22 PM
Thom will be interviewing Brian Lefevre?

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/845/817/dcf

Why not the goofball interviewed a bleepin' bird

JFLegal
08-05-2020, 08:23 PM
vAAAn meter.

what a joke.

NebraskaRed
08-05-2020, 08:23 PM
JVM has done nothing at all to warrant being on the roster this year.

reds77
08-05-2020, 08:23 PM
Why why why is VanMeter on the roster?

Ironman92
08-05-2020, 08:24 PM
And when Francisco Lindor has bases loaded with 1 out he should at least bring in one run.

But that's baseball.

Stop being logical...people are trying to hate watching the game

mgbrown66
08-05-2020, 08:24 PM
Good God, the Indians can pitch.

Kc61
08-05-2020, 08:24 PM
Van Meter had a great July 2019 but didn’t hit in August or September.

Aquino had a great August 2019 but didn’t hit in September.

Some fans concluded that Van Meter was ready but Aquino wasn’t.

Much worse, the Reds concluded that Van Meter was ready but Aquino wasn’t.

Still don’t get that.

TheBigLebowski
08-05-2020, 08:24 PM
Black hole. Punt that guy to the taxi squad or the uber squad, Lyft..whatever keeps him far away from this lineup.

JFLegal
08-05-2020, 08:24 PM
van meter sucks and i taught some confused individual what "straw man" means.

that's the cliff's notes version of this game so far.

oh, and antone is good.

Ron Madden
08-05-2020, 08:25 PM
"should" does not = automatic.

words matter.

but nice try.

Then why get your panties in a wad when it doesn't happen?

wolfboy
08-05-2020, 08:25 PM
i'm absolutely sure i do. now i'm certain you do not.

a "straw man" argument would be saying something like "why does everyone expect a bunch of reds' hitters to go 2-for-3 against clevenger" when no one said that or expects that.

you understand now?

This is the last I'll say on the matter. But your argument was that Reds batters should do better against Clevinger. When someone brings up that your expectations are unreasonable, that is not a strawman. If you keep levying personal attacks at me I'll grab the mods. Now are you prepared to act like a reasonable adult here?

Ironman92
08-05-2020, 08:25 PM
Good God, the Indians can pitch.

Yes...one of the best starting rotations in MLB, struggle offensively though

WVRedsFan
08-05-2020, 08:25 PM
Bell needs to end his love for JVM and sit him in school to study pitch recognition. Twice he took third strikes on pitches "right down the middle," as Thom would say.

Kilgore_Trout
08-05-2020, 08:25 PM
I can’t get my head around VanMeter. I just can’t. These games matter too much to keep giving him at-bats.

Not a lot of options, good versatility, left-handed bat. I know, I know. But my goodness he’s been putrid.

KeefeCato
08-05-2020, 08:26 PM
JVM,Had what a couple of good weeks last summer when he first came up?
Since nothing.

Banshee
08-05-2020, 08:26 PM
Antone's running out of gas.

JFLegal
08-05-2020, 08:26 PM
Then why get your panties in a wad when it doesn't happen?

"panties in a bunch"? your 1980s putdowns are hurtful.

now focus on the game and stop being soft.

Coopdaddy67
08-05-2020, 08:27 PM
Why why why is VanMeter on the roster?

Position flexibility. Colon is the only other guy on the roster that can realistically play 2B/3B right now.

podgejeff_
08-05-2020, 08:28 PM
Never...ever throw that man a fastball again.

He clearly has no idea what to do with a breaking ball.

JFLegal
08-05-2020, 08:28 PM
This is the last I'll say on the matter. But your argument was that Reds batters should do better against Clevinger. When someone brings up that your expectations are unreasonable, that is not a strawman. If you keep levying personal attacks at me I'll grab the mods. Now are you prepared to act like a reasonable adult here?

listen man, you were coming at me pretty hard. now you are saying that me asking you if you "understand what a strawman is" is a personal attack? get over yourself. if anyone was "attacking" anyone, you were attacking me. but i'm not gonna cry about it.

TheBigLebowski
08-05-2020, 08:29 PM
Never...ever throw that man a fastball again.

He clearly has no idea what to do with a breaking ball.

JOBU

Ron Madden
08-05-2020, 08:29 PM
Another twin killin

podgejeff_
08-05-2020, 08:29 PM
Loving these double plays.

adkindo
08-05-2020, 08:29 PM
Antone setting fools down

Ironman92
08-05-2020, 08:29 PM
Let him go 1 more

wolfboy
08-05-2020, 08:30 PM
listen man, you were coming at me pretty hard. now you are saying that me asking you if you "understand what a strawman is" is a personal attack? get over yourself. if anyone was "attacking" anyone, you were attacking me. but i'm not gonna cry about it.

Your posts speak for themselves, both as they relate to me and to others.

JFLegal
08-05-2020, 08:30 PM
hell yes antone. very impressed with him.

reds77
08-05-2020, 08:30 PM
Position flexibility. Colon is the only other guy on the roster that can realistically play 2B/3B right now.

Not a good enough reason if he can't play ball. He isn't a big league hitter.

Kilgore_Trout
08-05-2020, 08:30 PM
Position flexibility. Colon is the only other guy on the roster that can realistically play 2B/3B right now.

I keep seeing this mentioned, and I’m not even saying you’re wrong. But VanMeter has been completely overmatched literally every single time he’s in the batters box. I can’t recall a single at-bat this year that didn’t make me roll my eyes. Games matter too much in this shortened season. We have to try something else.

JFLegal
08-05-2020, 08:30 PM
Your posts speak for themselves, both as they relate to me and to others.

cool. you have a good one, man. cheers!

adkindo
08-05-2020, 08:30 PM
Let him go 1 more

especially if we score in this inning....let him try to get the win....bottom of their lineup

Cursh14
08-05-2020, 08:30 PM
I couldn't, but I can make outs for half their pay. Where do I sign up?

I would make Aaron Harang look like Hank Aaron.

reds77
08-05-2020, 08:31 PM
Antone is fun to watch.

JFLegal
08-05-2020, 08:31 PM
Antone is fun to watch.

he sure is!

Coopdaddy67
08-05-2020, 08:32 PM
The best thing we've seen from Antone is that he doesn't get rattled easily. Gets himself into tough situations, but then works himself out of it with some really good pitches.

Ron Madden
08-05-2020, 08:32 PM
"panties in a bunch"? your 1980s putdowns are hurtful.

now focus on the game and stop being soft.

Try taking your own advice and you might be able to enjoy the game of baseball a little bit more.

I'm done with the conversation

mgbrown66
08-05-2020, 08:32 PM
Antone seems to be a huge, bulging, brute of a man on the mound, and then they showed his giggling interview talking about Shogo.

It was like hearing Tyson talk for the first time. :)

KeefeCato
08-05-2020, 08:33 PM
Might have just found Disco and or Bauer's replacement next season in Antone.

Mitri
08-05-2020, 08:34 PM
Antone should go straight to late inning relief.

adkindo
08-05-2020, 08:34 PM
the whole pee pee dance thing Clevinger does on the mound gets on my nerves

JFLegal
08-05-2020, 08:34 PM
Antone seems to be a huge, bulging, brute of a man on the mound, and then they showed his giggling interview talking about Shogo.

It was like hearing Tyson talk for the first time. :)

lmao!

Mitri
08-05-2020, 08:35 PM
the whole pee pee dance thing Clevinger does on the mound gets on my nerves

Yeah, half the league balks every pitch now. It's awful.

reds77
08-05-2020, 08:36 PM
Might have just found Disco and or Bauer's replacement next season in Antone.

Don't do that, I want Bauer back!

Ironman92
08-05-2020, 08:36 PM
especially if we score in this inning....let him try to get the win....bottom of their lineup

I just want to see him keep battling...Iím in no hurry to see him yanked because heís starting to show signs of getting tired and then just bring in the bullpen to give up instant runs.

He has shown good composure and making big pitches when it matters.....heís not raring back when he gets into trouble, heís taking a little off a.k.a pitching. Pitchers are more apt to battle successfully when they get into some trouble.

JFLegal
08-05-2020, 08:37 PM
Don't do that, I want Bauer back!

we need castellanos and bauer back next year or i will be very sad.

- - - Updated - - -

shogo swings at a ball over his head for strike 3, but clevenger comes up gimpy. sprained ankle or something like that.

Stray
08-05-2020, 08:38 PM
Outside of a few guys, there's been very few balls squared up by by any of our hitters all year.

kaldaniels
08-05-2020, 08:38 PM
Don't do that, I want Bauer back!

Don’t forget T-Bone!

KeefeCato
08-05-2020, 08:38 PM
Don't do that, I want Bauer back!

Me to but no guarentee he will be back. Disco gone IMO and he should be. Too big of a health risk to ink to a big deal.

Kc61
08-05-2020, 08:38 PM
Not a good enough reason if he can't play ball. He isn't a big league hitter.

Van Meter plays several positions but I’ve never heard he is a gifted fielder. I’ve heard he’s a solid offensive player.

If he was the last guy on the bench I could see it, but he can’t be the top LH bench bat. They need someone better.

Stray
08-05-2020, 08:38 PM
They mentioned a knee surgery not too long ago. He definitely didn't look right after that pitch.

Kc61
08-05-2020, 08:40 PM
I wonder if Reds will drop Antone tomorrow to get down to 28. Oh, not for long. But he’ll need several days rest, so option him and bring him back. Possible I guess.

JFLegal
08-05-2020, 08:40 PM
Van Meter plays several positions but I’ve never heard he is a gifted fielder. I’ve heard he’s a solid offensive player.

If he was the last guy on the bench I could see it, but he can’t be the top LH bench bat. They need someone better.

van meter was nothing more than a bum (baseball lingo) heading into 2019. then the reds got all enamored by the fact he mashed at AAA with a juiced ball for a month or two.

van meter was never good at baseball. he just tricked the reds into thinking he was.

adkindo
08-05-2020, 08:41 PM
If Bauer really is up for a 1 or 2 year deal, I can see the Reds being in the mix

JFLegal
08-05-2020, 08:41 PM
and antone walks the leadoff hitter.

reds77
08-05-2020, 08:41 PM
Van Meter plays several positions but I’ve never heard he is a gifted fielder. I’ve heard he’s a solid offensive player.

If he was the last guy on the bench I could see it, but he can’t be the top LH bench bat. They need someone better.

My beef is he becomes the defacto starting 1B or 2B when the starter can't play.

Ironman92
08-05-2020, 08:42 PM
Heís starting to wear down and heís not giving in for rockets off the bat. Watch closely though

Kc61
08-05-2020, 08:42 PM
van meter was nothing more than a bum (baseball lingo) heading into 2019. then the reds got all enamored by the fact he mashed at AAA with a juiced ball for a month or two.

van meter was never good at baseball. he just tricked the reds into thinking he was.

I like that, he tricked them. Interesting take.

reds77
08-05-2020, 08:42 PM
van meter was nothing more than a bum (baseball lingo) heading into 2019. then the reds got all enamored by the fact he mashed at AAA with a juiced ball for a month or two.

van meter was never good at baseball. he just tricked the reds into thinking he was.

For sure, he got hot at AAA for a bit and then became a Bell favorite.

JFLegal
08-05-2020, 08:43 PM
I like that, he tricked them. Interesting take.

do you disagree?

Kc61
08-05-2020, 08:44 PM
My beef is he becomes the defacto starting 1B or 2B when the starter can't play.


Against RHP Reds use their LHH as starters.

So only VM and Jankowski are lefties off the bench normally. So VM gets the call.

They simply need a better LHH off the bench.

JFLegal
08-05-2020, 08:45 PM
antone needs to get out of the habit of showing up the ump when a ball is clearly a ball.

JFLegal
08-05-2020, 08:46 PM
nice outing for antone. goes 4.1 innings again.

Kc61
08-05-2020, 08:46 PM
do you disagree?

I agree Reds became too enamored with JVM. Not sure if he tricked them, though, he did play and do well in July. Not sure it was a trick.

mgbrown66
08-05-2020, 08:47 PM
Well, this game is over.

JFLegal
08-05-2020, 08:47 PM
I agree Reds became too enamored with JVM. Not sure if he tricked them, though, he did play and do well in July. Not sure it was a trick.

pretty small sample size there! (i think you secretly agree with me, lol)

Ironman92
08-05-2020, 08:47 PM
I disagree but am ok with the move. Heís allowed 2 hits.

Hope bullpen looks like 2 nights ago

reds77
08-05-2020, 08:47 PM
Against RHP Reds use their LHH as starters.

So only VM and Jankowski are lefties off the bench normally. So VM gets the call.

They simply need a better LHH off the bench.

I understand why he plays for matchup, etc, but I don't understand why the front office is content with him being on the roster. Better talent needed.

EnglishRed
08-05-2020, 08:48 PM
Looks like they're all asking Votto why he didn't throw to 2nd.

Cursh14
08-05-2020, 08:48 PM
I mean, let's not discount the Indians ineptitude to score. Battle of some of the worst in baseball: Reds' bullpen vs Indians' offense.

reds77
08-05-2020, 08:49 PM
I agree Reds became too enamored with JVM. Not sure if he tricked them, though, he did play and do well in July. Not sure it was a trick.

It was shenanigans!

Stray
08-05-2020, 08:49 PM
About all we could hope for from Antone tonight. Pitched really well and outta some tough jams.

Jomama
08-05-2020, 08:50 PM
Antone just got "Belled".

reds77
08-05-2020, 08:50 PM
Lorenzen stresses me out.

JFLegal
08-05-2020, 08:51 PM
LOLorenzen

podgejeff_
08-05-2020, 08:51 PM
WTF was that?

reds77
08-05-2020, 08:51 PM
Bell isn't the greatest, but he has a dumpster fire of relievers to pick from.

Kilgore_Trout
08-05-2020, 08:51 PM
Man oh man.

reds77
08-05-2020, 08:52 PM
6 balls in a row.

50YrRedsFan
08-05-2020, 08:52 PM
Bell depending on the bullpen to stay in this game. The way this bp has performed, I wouldn't get my hopes too high.
And Lorenzen walks the first hitter...the end could be near.

WVRedsFan
08-05-2020, 08:52 PM
Michael not throwing strikes. Here we go!

Kingspoint
08-05-2020, 08:52 PM
Everyone needs to take a shot whenever a REDS Reliever holds a team scoreless during his stint AND whenever the REDS' hitters take the lead after a REDS' Starter has left the game.

...and whenever a REDS' Reliever gets a Save, no matter how excruciating.

Banshee
08-05-2020, 08:52 PM
Lorenzen's mechanics are stiff as steel.

podgejeff_
08-05-2020, 08:52 PM
Finally.

Red Raindog
08-05-2020, 08:52 PM
This bullpen


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Strikes Out Looking
08-05-2020, 08:52 PM
Does Michael Lorenzen understand that he's supposed to try to pitch it somewhere near the plate?

reds77
08-05-2020, 08:53 PM
Lorenzen failed at his job, again. But hey, he can play OF OmG!!

TheBigLebowski
08-05-2020, 08:53 PM
This bullpen...Dear Lord

JFLegal
08-05-2020, 08:53 PM
what a horrible throw from shogo. not sure he would have got him anyway, but wow was that weak.

reds continue to find ways to fall behind in games. can't do that during a 60-game season.

Ironman92
08-05-2020, 08:53 PM
Also on my thought of leaving pitcher in....relief guys warm up on a mound that always feels different on the road....

Lead gone

podgejeff_
08-05-2020, 08:53 PM
I...don't think Shogo has much of an arm.

JFLegal
08-05-2020, 08:54 PM
safe at home. 2-0 indians. reds are a trainwreck. nice work, van meter.

adkindo
08-05-2020, 08:54 PM
bad throw home

JFLegal
08-05-2020, 08:55 PM
van meter can't hit. but he makes up for it by being bad defensively.

TheBigLebowski
08-05-2020, 08:55 PM
This team is pitiful.

adkindo
08-05-2020, 08:55 PM
bad setup by Tucker

podgejeff_
08-05-2020, 08:55 PM
van meter can't hit. but he makes up for it by being bad defensively.

I can't help it, I chuckled.

JP321
08-05-2020, 08:55 PM
I like Welsh, but that was NOT a heads up good play by JVM

JFLegal
08-05-2020, 08:56 PM
it would be one thing if the reds lost a lot, but were entertaining to watch. they are painful to watch and they lose a lot.

NC-Red
08-05-2020, 08:56 PM
This team SUCKS. Tribe should get the brooms out

podgejeff_
08-05-2020, 08:56 PM
I'm beginning to think Lorenzen doesn't have it tonight.

ochoa30
08-05-2020, 08:56 PM
Lorenzen is horrible. What happened to this guy?

Patrick Bateman
08-05-2020, 08:56 PM
Lorenzen sure loves to come in and immediately put gas on the fire.


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reds77
08-05-2020, 08:56 PM
This squad still needs work and roster churning.