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Ron Madden
08-20-2020, 02:25 PM
First Pitch 8:15PM

Reds
1. Joey Votto (L) 1B
2. Nick Castellanos (R) RF
3. Jesse Winker (L) LF
4. Eugenio Suarez (R) 3B
5. Mike Moustakas (L) 2B
6. Shogo Akiyama (L) CF
7. Josh VanMeter (L) DH
8. Freddy Galvis (S) SS
9. Tucker Barnhart (L) C
SP Sonny Gray (R)

Cards
1. Kolten Wong (L) 2B
2. Tommy Edman (S) SS
3. Paul Goldschmidt (R) 1B
4. Matt Carpenter (L) DH
5. Brad Miller (L) 3B
6. Tyler O'Neill (R) LF
7. Dexter Fowler (S) RF
8. Yadier Molina (R) C
9. Dylan Carlson (S) CF
SP Adam Wainwright (R)

Jomama
08-20-2020, 03:25 PM
There has to be a better option than Josh Van Meter somewhere in the Reds organization. I can think of several.

DocRed
08-20-2020, 03:30 PM
I'd option JVM and give Robel Garcia a shot

Rolando
08-20-2020, 03:38 PM
I'm not a fan of jankowski at all but if this is your options I would have put him in center field and Shogo in left and let winker at DH. At least you improve the defense why would you ever let Van meter DH

DocRed
08-20-2020, 03:39 PM
Shogo needs to pick up his game. Aside from generally playing good D he really has done nothing at the plate this year. A .611 OPS ain't gonna cut it.

Alabama Red
08-20-2020, 03:42 PM
Righty vs lefty doesn’t work if the batter can’t hit. JVM has not proven himself to be a major leaguer and I would play a RH hitter against RH pitchers before I put him in the game. Now he will go 3-4 tonight and win the game for us.

JFLegal
08-20-2020, 03:44 PM
There has to be a better option than Josh Van Meter somewhere in the Reds organization. I can think of several.

ask bruce if he thinks aquino would be a better option. :evil:

Alabama Red
08-20-2020, 03:44 PM
Shogo needs to pick up his game. Aside from generally playing good D he really has done nothing at the plate this year. A .611 OPS ain't gonna cut it.
He may turn it around but at this point he looks like a replacement level player.

REDREAD
08-20-2020, 03:55 PM
This part of the schedule is going to make or break us, 15 straight games against the Cards, Cubs and Brewers.

Alabama Red
08-20-2020, 04:11 PM
This part of the schedule is going to make or break us, 15 straight games against the Cards, Cubs and Brewers.
At 2 games under it we don’t pick it up we may be out if it when this 15 game stretch is over.

Mitri
08-20-2020, 04:25 PM
I'm not a fan of jankowski at all but if this is your options I would have put him in center field and Shogo in left and let winker at DH. At least you improve the defense why would you ever let Van meter DH

Rolando for manager.

Tony Cloninger
08-20-2020, 04:29 PM
I am glad there is baseball but you just cannot take this situation seriously when they have played what is just a full month of games. Bad teams get out to great starts a lot as do good teams being the opposite. JVM proved that he was a good bench/role player last year. He’s been overplayed and bad now for what is not even a first month of a season.

Brutus23
08-20-2020, 05:19 PM
As long as we put an ass whooping on the sh*tbirds, I will fall asleep a happy man. Shortened season or not.

Kc61
08-20-2020, 05:25 PM
Righty vs lefty doesn’t work if the batter can’t hit. JVM has not proven himself to be a major leaguer and I would play a RH hitter against RH pitchers before I put him in the game. Now he will go 3-4 tonight and win the game for us.

I feel the same way. I’d probably give Phil Ervin the shot. But as you say, JVM will probably prove us wrong.

Ron Madden
08-20-2020, 05:30 PM
Disco comments on Thom


Anthony DeSclafani: "There's really no place for stuff like that anywhere. I'm sure the Reds will have to do what they have to do. ... We don't need that and it might be a better thing that's he's gone, to be honest." #Reds

DocRed
08-20-2020, 05:41 PM
Cards lineup is up...Molina is in the lineup figures.

Ron Madden
08-20-2020, 05:46 PM
The St. Louis lineup has been added to the original post

Kc61
08-20-2020, 07:01 PM
I'm not a fan of jankowski at all but if this is your options I would have put him in center field and Shogo in left and let winker at DH. At least you improve the defense why would you ever let Van meter DH

Not sure I’d opt for Jankowski to start tonight, but the Reds’ defense has been a big minus this season. All the unearned runs allowed, sixth highest NL ERA as compared to league leading FIP. It’s not just a nuisance, it’s been a problem.

JaxRed
08-20-2020, 07:06 PM
You can swap Robel and Van Meter without repercussions. I'd have liked to seen it.

PuffyPig
08-20-2020, 07:09 PM
The Reds bullpen is on a streak of 15.1 scoreless innings.


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UPRedsFan
08-20-2020, 07:52 PM
Ervin, Farmer, Davidson might feel like better options to DH over JVM. But that Wainwright curveball could have all 3 of them swinging and missing all night. I think if Senzel was available we'd see Winker at DH. JVM may be the best option in the end.

davereds24
08-20-2020, 07:53 PM
I wonder if JVM would be an upgrade to Votto in the field?

JFLegal
08-20-2020, 07:56 PM
This part of the schedule is going to make or break us, 15 straight games against the Cards, Cubs and Brewers.

yes, we left ourselves very little wiggle room after basically crapping the bed against bad teams like the tigers and royals (need to do better than 5-5 against those scrub teams). but regardless, this is exciting. let's get a W tonight!

JFLegal
08-20-2020, 07:57 PM
when sonny gray was a middle-school pitcher in the nashville area, his nickname was "sunshine." i did not know that.

JFLegal
08-20-2020, 08:00 PM
welsh's hair scares me.

reds77
08-20-2020, 08:02 PM
Go Reds!

reds77
08-20-2020, 08:03 PM
JVM must have the goods on management.

JFLegal
08-20-2020, 08:11 PM
a plumped-up pic has his job back thanks to thom!

adkindo
08-20-2020, 08:12 PM
This part of the schedule is going to make or break us, 15 straight games against the Cards, Cubs and Brewers.

odds are we do what we do....tread water, maybe slip a game or two...

Kc61
08-20-2020, 08:15 PM
odds are we do what we do....tread water, maybe slip a game or two...

Ten game road trip, game 3 tonight, Reds need to split the ten or better. Split would be acceptable, play .500 on the road.

reds77
08-20-2020, 08:21 PM
Winker with a hit.

TheBigLebowski
08-20-2020, 08:22 PM
Winker is as zoned-in as anyone I can recall.

adkindo
08-20-2020, 08:22 PM
big night for Geno?

Coopdaddy67
08-20-2020, 08:22 PM
All three batters thus far have hit the ball hard. Time for Suarez to do some damage.

EnglishRed
08-20-2020, 08:23 PM
Winker is just ridiculous at the moment.

reds77
08-20-2020, 08:23 PM
Cards errors helping the cause.

adkindo
08-20-2020, 08:24 PM
Cardinals look like the Bad News Bears

TheBigLebowski
08-20-2020, 08:24 PM
Cards are bumbling

EnglishRed
08-20-2020, 08:25 PM
Their fielding is worse than ours.

adkindo
08-20-2020, 08:25 PM
why is Geno not on 2nd?

757690
08-20-2020, 08:25 PM
The Cardinal Way

klw
08-20-2020, 08:26 PM
Their fielding is worse than ours.

Reds say "here hold my beer"

JFLegal
08-20-2020, 08:26 PM
love that D from the cardinals.

Coopdaddy67
08-20-2020, 08:26 PM
why is Geno not on 2nd?

Had to go half way in case it drops in so he isn't thrown out at 2nd.

The Operator
08-20-2020, 08:27 PM
That was some interesting Cardinal defense that inning.


I could get used to that

TheBigLebowski
08-20-2020, 08:27 PM
Every time I watch Shogo I lose more confidence that heís just in an adjustment phase. It may be that heís just not that good.

klw
08-20-2020, 08:29 PM
That was some interesting Cardinal defense that inning.


I could get used to that

It was the disruptive effect of Votto's speed on the basepaths.

JFLegal
08-20-2020, 08:30 PM
sunshine!

The Operator
08-20-2020, 08:30 PM
K to start the bottom of the first for Sonny

JFLegal
08-20-2020, 08:31 PM
another K for sonny

757690
08-20-2020, 08:32 PM
Jim Day is even cockier than normal tonight, for obvious reasons, and it’s super annoying.

Alabama Red
08-20-2020, 08:32 PM
Every time I watch Shogo I lose more confidence that he’s just in an adjustment phase. It may be that he’s just not that good.
He just has too much weal contact. I’m surprised if he hits the ball out of the infield. Not sure what the Reds saw in him. Hopefully I’m wrong.

JFLegal
08-20-2020, 08:33 PM
12-pitch inning for sunshine. 2-0 reds.

The Operator
08-20-2020, 08:33 PM
It was the disruptive effect of Votto's speed on the basepaths.

https://media3.giphy.com/media/GJOCVDPYA4Cze/giphy.gif

RanRulzU
08-20-2020, 08:34 PM
Jim Day is very cocky in person. Not at all like his on air persona.

JFLegal
08-20-2020, 08:34 PM
Jim Day is even cockier than normal tonight, for obvious reasons, and it’s super annoying.

ha, i noticed the same thing. it's obvious they are glad thom is gone. giving shout-outs to everyone on their "team" like lecure, pic, etc. lmao. they are not hiding their disdain for thom very well.

EnglishRed
08-20-2020, 08:34 PM
Nice catch Joey. down in order for Gray

RedsBrick
08-20-2020, 08:35 PM
Well Sonny, I guess you don't need a couple innings to get in a groove...

JFLegal
08-20-2020, 08:35 PM
why is van meter swinging at a ball that almost hit him

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awful at bat. should have walked.

The Operator
08-20-2020, 08:36 PM
To be fair, Chris, Wainwright has had Tommy John Surgery.


So yes, his arm hasn’t fallen off, but to say he’s thrown the curveball for 16 years with no adverse effects might be a stretch.

JFLegal
08-20-2020, 08:37 PM
5.25 ERA for wainwright in his career against the reds. hello.

EnglishRed
08-20-2020, 08:38 PM
I'm going to try and be fair to JVM tonight. He's decent at working the count to get a hit-able ball......... ...... .......

JFLegal
08-20-2020, 08:38 PM
galvis big fly!!!!

Ron Madden
08-20-2020, 08:38 PM
Freddy!!!

The Operator
08-20-2020, 08:38 PM
Galvis!

3-0 Reds!

Tom Servo
08-20-2020, 08:39 PM
Freddy! :jump:

continues to be solid this season at the dish

RedsBrick
08-20-2020, 08:39 PM
Adjust to that...

RedForLife
08-20-2020, 08:39 PM
He just has too much weal contact. Iím surprised if he hits the ball out of the infield. Not sure what the Reds saw in him. Hopefully Iím wrong.

He has played very well defensively and considering he's seeing all of the MLB pitchers he's going to face for the first time ever, I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. Especially with this Covid shortened season. The important thing tonight though, is the pleasant broadcast.

TheBigLebowski
08-20-2020, 08:39 PM
Freddy Boom Boom

EnglishRed
08-20-2020, 08:39 PM
Galvis 5th HR of the season....

RedForLife
08-20-2020, 08:39 PM
Gone, Freddy, gone!

Ironman92
08-20-2020, 08:40 PM
Good start...letís win

757690
08-20-2020, 08:40 PM
Jim Day just as good at calling HR as Thom, lol

The Operator
08-20-2020, 08:41 PM
Jim Day is even cockier than normal tonight, for obvious reasons, and it’s super annoying.

The conspiracy theorist in me wonders if some people got together after Marty retired and said “Alright, daddy’s gone. Let’s finally show this clown for what he is”.


The most likely explanation is it was Thom being Thom and mlb.tv brought the mic hot naturally. But it makes you wonder.

RedsBrick
08-20-2020, 08:41 PM
Wainwright's 5+ era against the Reds is definitely showing up tonight.

EnglishRed
08-20-2020, 08:41 PM
Tucker with a nice single off the end of his bat.

The Operator
08-20-2020, 08:41 PM
Reds having no trouble with Wainwright ah the moment.


2 more hits after the Galvis long ball. 1 out

Tom Servo
08-20-2020, 08:41 PM
Jim Day just as good at calling HR as Thom, lol
lol yeah I get that it's not as easy watching it on TV but I think it was clear from contact that that one at least had a chance to get out but JD seemed to think it was routine

EnglishRed
08-20-2020, 08:42 PM
And now Joey singles. 3rd straight hit off Wainwright.

Ron Madden
08-20-2020, 08:43 PM
Jim Day just as good at calling HR as Thom, lol

He'll get better with time

The Operator
08-20-2020, 08:43 PM
Barnhart advances to third on Castellanos’ fly out.

2 outs for Winker. Runners first and third

RedsBrick
08-20-2020, 08:43 PM
Let's go Wink. 2-out ribbie.

NCReds
08-20-2020, 08:44 PM
Seem to be firing on all cylinders tonight... so far

The Operator
08-20-2020, 08:44 PM
Winker grounds out, 2 runners stranded

3-0 good guys after 1.5

EnglishRed
08-20-2020, 08:44 PM
lol yeah I get that it's not as easy watching it on TV but I think it was clear from contact that that one at least had a chance to get out but JD seemed to think it was routine

Have to say Fowler made it look like it wasn't making the warning track at first.

RedsBrick
08-20-2020, 08:45 PM
Hey, another run.

EnglishRed
08-20-2020, 08:47 PM
Think we'd always have taken 3-0 after 2 innings, Wainwright having to throw 30 odd pitches, Galvis and Votto finding hits again.. Only complaint is that we didn't push Wainwright into throwing a few more pitches.

Big Klu
08-20-2020, 08:49 PM
Hello all. I commented on the Thom thread that I would stop by tonight. I had made the decision before the season started to take a step back from the Reds this year, though I still periodically read the threads on RedsZone. I have also noticed that a few people were concerned about my absence -- rest assured, I am still alive and currently healthy. (Hopefully that continues when school resumes this fall!)

Anyway, my absence is not due to any friction or dissatisfaction with the Reds or this site. When the apocalypse started back in March, I was focused on the day-to-day struggle of getting by, and also keeping tabs on my parents. Baseball took a back seat in my life. By the end of April, I realized that I didn't even miss baseball, as I was spending my time working on household projects I had neglected.

When baseball finally made plans to resume, I just didn't have an interest. The short season seems too much like an exhibition season or Spring Training season to me, and I just couldn't get emotionally invested in it, especially when where was the possibility that the season could be suspended or cancelled at any time.

I also had reservations about the rule changes. I was OK with the expanded rosters, but I was strongly opposed to the DH. (if I wanted to follow AL baseball, I would have become a Red Sox, Indians, or Tigers fan years ago.) I was even more strongly opposed to the 10th inning rule -- I would prefer ties over that rec league BS. I understood -- but still disliked -- the 7-inning doubleheaders, though my biggest fear was that all of these "temporary" 2020 rule changes will become permanent. So I decided that -- rather than get emotionally worked up over all of it -- I would just take a couple of steps back and not get involved with the 2020 season.

I still try to read RedsZone regularly, though. It has become a habit over the years, and I enjoy the interaction. Anyway, I'm still alive and kicking, and though I'm not around as often, I will still pop in now and then!

The Operator
08-20-2020, 08:49 PM
Back to back hits against Sonny to start the second

Wuh oh

JFLegal
08-20-2020, 08:50 PM
we're up 3-0 and klu is in the house.

it's a good night.

The Operator
08-20-2020, 08:51 PM
Klu, so great go to hear from you!


I’m with you on the 10th inning rule. It’s absolute garbage.

Bruce Berenyi
08-20-2020, 08:51 PM
hi big klu I miss you

JFLegal
08-20-2020, 08:51 PM
one down

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hi big klu I miss you

he doesn't think aquino is very good.

JFLegal
08-20-2020, 08:54 PM
jeez. walked a washed-up guy fowler on 4 pitches.

The Operator
08-20-2020, 08:54 PM
Four pitch walk to Fowler loads the bases with 1 out

Sonny playing with fire


Molina up

JFLegal
08-20-2020, 08:54 PM
let's get a DP

The Operator
08-20-2020, 08:56 PM
Ugh I hate Molina so bad

3-2 ballgame

JFLegal
08-20-2020, 08:56 PM
ouch, hung a curve to a washed-up molina.

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we just can't have nice things.

Tom Servo
08-20-2020, 08:57 PM
Ah crap. Knew Molina wasn't gonna hammer one but feared he would find green with a little hit, and he did.

EnglishRed
08-20-2020, 08:58 PM
annoying that. should have had the 2nd runner. not the best throw to home.

Ironman92
08-20-2020, 08:58 PM
All cylinders eh? [emoji2359]

JFLegal
08-20-2020, 08:58 PM
also, this is why you can't start 10-12 against the easiest schedule in all of MLB. no room for error in a 60-game schedule.

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why is sonny nibbling with these scrubs?

Ironman92
08-20-2020, 08:58 PM
Carlson looks like Mark Teixeira

ZakkW
08-20-2020, 08:58 PM
That was predictable enough...Molina hasn't played in 3 weeks but that doesn't stop him from immediately hurting the Reds

ScotlandRed
08-20-2020, 08:59 PM
The corpse of Yadier Molina still haunting the Reds

ochoa30
08-20-2020, 08:59 PM
Sonny had such great command in the first and then poof. Sucks.

TheBigLebowski
08-20-2020, 08:59 PM
The Reds way. Lights out pitching & can’t hit a lick. Bats start working and the pitchers start tossing grapefruits. Never fails.

RedlegsFanatic
08-20-2020, 08:59 PM
Why on earth would u call for that breaking ball like that and speed up molinaís bat with the bases loaded?
Pathetic. Those 2 runs are on Tucker or whoever called for that pitch. Gray can strike out Molina these days with his eyes closed if the right pitches are called.

JFLegal
08-20-2020, 08:59 PM
two down.

Falls City Beer
08-20-2020, 08:59 PM
The number of bad swings a Cardinals’ offense—any Cardinals’ offense—takes in a game is guaranteed to be countable on one hand. It’s got to be organizational philosophy. The Reds’ approach is so vastly different. The Cardinals never ever beat themselves.

The Operator
08-20-2020, 09:00 PM
9 hitter flies out


2 down

JFLegal
08-20-2020, 09:00 PM
Why on earth would u call for that breaking ball like that and speed up molina’s bat with the bases loaded?
Pathetic. Those 2 runs are on Tucker or whoever called for that pitch. Gray can strike out Molina these days with his eyes closed if the right pitches are called.

i agree, what the hell was that pitch? keep the fastball on him, or throw it in the dirt.

Ironman92
08-20-2020, 09:00 PM
also, this is why you can't start 10-12 against the easiest schedule in all of MLB. no room for error in a 60-game schedule.

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why is sonny nibbling with these scrubs?

Because you donít give in often or HR are had....he doesnít have his best stuff and Cardinals hitters have been having good at bats for 15 year.

JFLegal
08-20-2020, 09:01 PM
nice work sonny G. only 2 score. 3-2 reds.

The Operator
08-20-2020, 09:01 PM
Sonny avoids further damage

3-2 Reds after 2

ochoa30
08-20-2020, 09:01 PM
i agree, what the hell was that pitch? keep the fastball on him, or throw it in the dirt.

He obviously didn’t execute it where he wanted it. At least they still have the lead.

Tom Servo
08-20-2020, 09:01 PM
well, could have been worse. Hopefully just a blip for Sonny, and a reminder that the Reds can't step off the gas pedal.

JFLegal
08-20-2020, 09:01 PM
Because you don’t give in often or HR are had....he doesn’t have his best stuff and Cardinals hitters have been having good at bats for 15 year.

nah man, not against the bottom of the lineup. need to be aggressive there.

RedsBrick
08-20-2020, 09:02 PM
Sonny proved mortal there.

paulishuku
08-20-2020, 09:02 PM
Honestly itís nice having an announcer actually calling the game for once. Jim Day is doing a good job.


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JFLegal
08-20-2020, 09:03 PM
Honestly it’s nice having an announcer actually calling the game for once. Jim Day is doing a good job.


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oooohhhh doctor!

Falls City Beer
08-20-2020, 09:03 PM
No matter what happens, Sonny won’t pitch past the 5th. Odds of winning cratered that inning.

JFLegal
08-20-2020, 09:05 PM
geno infield hit.

The Operator
08-20-2020, 09:05 PM
Hey guys, FCB doesn’t think The Reds will beat the Cardinals... one of us needs to alert the media! :laugh:

RedsBrick
08-20-2020, 09:06 PM
Scrap...

TheBigLebowski
08-20-2020, 09:06 PM
Looks like a line drive in the scoresheet

The Operator
08-20-2020, 09:06 PM
Infield hit for Geno to lead things off

Ironman92
08-20-2020, 09:06 PM
nah man, not against the bottom of the lineup. need to be aggressive there.

Ok

NCReds
08-20-2020, 09:07 PM
All cylinders eh? [emoji2359]

Spoke way too soon. Knew better than that

The Operator
08-20-2020, 09:07 PM
Moose!!!!

4-2 Reds!!

JFLegal
08-20-2020, 09:08 PM
moose smokes one to the gap! 4-2 reds!

RedsBrick
08-20-2020, 09:08 PM
Atta baby, Moose.

Ron Madden
08-20-2020, 09:08 PM
RBI Double for Moose!!!

TheBigLebowski
08-20-2020, 09:08 PM
Beautiful stroke Mous

Tom Servo
08-20-2020, 09:08 PM
Mooooooose

Coopdaddy67
08-20-2020, 09:08 PM
That was a laser from Moustakas.

The Operator
08-20-2020, 09:08 PM
Dang Shogo lol

1 out, Moose moves to third

JFLegal
08-20-2020, 09:09 PM
jeez shogo, can you at least put a good AB together?

EnglishRed
08-20-2020, 09:09 PM
Moose!!

NCReds
08-20-2020, 09:09 PM
Moooooose

TheBigLebowski
08-20-2020, 09:09 PM
Akiyama looks like a marionette at the plate. Just a lot of clumsy, uncoordinated motion.

Tom Servo
08-20-2020, 09:09 PM
please JVM just bring the run in

RedForLife
08-20-2020, 09:09 PM
Honestly itís nice having an announcer actually calling the game for once. Jim Day is doing a good job.


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And no constant pontificating about how great some opposing player is over and over, on and on, forever and ever, blah blah blah.

JFLegal
08-20-2020, 09:10 PM
terrible. van meter never comes through.

Alabama Red
08-20-2020, 09:10 PM
JVM has to produce here.

The Operator
08-20-2020, 09:10 PM
JVM lines out

2 outs

Big Klu
08-20-2020, 09:10 PM
FYI, earlier tonight Freddy Galvis tied Ruben Rivera for 29th place among Hispanic players on the Reds all-time HR list.

1. Tony Perez [🇨🇺] - 287
2. Eugenio Suarez [🇻🇪] - 146
3. Dave Concepcion [🇻🇪] - 101
4. Leo Cardenas [🇨🇺] - 72
5. Edwin Encarnacion [🇩🇴] - 71
6. Wily Mo PeŮa [🇩🇴] - 54
7. Cesar Geronimo [🇩🇴] - 44
8. Felipe Lopez [🇵🇷] - 41
9. Bo Diaz [🇻🇪] - 39
10. Javier Valentin [🇵🇷] - 34
11. Cesar CedeŮo [🇩🇴] - 30
12. Mariano Duncan [🇩🇴] - 28
12. Jose Peraza [🇻🇪] - 28
14. Jose Guillen [🇩🇴] - 27
15. Juan Castro [🇲🇽] - 25
16. Ramon Hernandez [🇻🇪] - 24
17. Eduardo Perez [🇺🇸/🇵🇷] - 23
18. Yasiel Puig [🇨🇺] - 22
19. Alex Ochoa [🇺🇸/🇨🇺] - 20
20. Luis QuiŮones [🇵🇷] - 19
20. Benito Santiago [🇵🇷] - 19
20. D'Angelo Jimenez [🇩🇴] - 19
20. Alex Gonzalez [🇻🇪] - 19
20. Aristides Aquino [🇩🇴] - 19
25. Juan Encarnacion [🇩🇴] - 16
26. Miguel Cairo [🇻🇪] - 13
27. Roberto Kelly [🇵🇦] - 12
28. Jose Iglesias [🇨🇺] - 11
29. Ruben Rivera [🇵🇦] - 10
29. Freddy Galvis [🇻🇪] - 10

Tom Servo
08-20-2020, 09:10 PM
Cardinals devil magic

JFLegal
08-20-2020, 09:10 PM
Akiyama looks like a marionette at the plate. Just a lot of clumsy, uncoordinated motion.

yes, a lot of japanese players come over very overrated. i fear this is the case with shogo.

The Operator
08-20-2020, 09:11 PM
Enough with the Molina love, Jim

reds77
08-20-2020, 09:11 PM
I don't care that he can play multiple positions. I don't care about other stats that might justify his roster spot. JVM is hitting .067. He should not be playing.

Big Klu
08-20-2020, 09:11 PM
nm

JFLegal
08-20-2020, 09:12 PM
disappointing to not get an extra run there. oh well, reds lead 4-2.

The Operator
08-20-2020, 09:12 PM
Galvis strikes out

Bummer

Tom Servo
08-20-2020, 09:12 PM
that fizzled out fast

Stray
08-20-2020, 09:13 PM
Yea at this point I've seen just about all the JVM I care to see. That he's DH'ing tonight is absurd.

Falls City Beer
08-20-2020, 09:14 PM
The fact that the Reds trot out VM as the DH points up how totally threadbare this organization is. They can’t find *anyone* in their minors who could do better?

JFLegal
08-20-2020, 09:15 PM
Yea at this point I've seen just about all the JVM I care to see. That he's DH'ing tonight is absurd.

i think aquino would have been a better choice

@bruce

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one down.

Coopdaddy67
08-20-2020, 09:16 PM
Yea at this point I've seen just about all the JVM I care to see. That he's DH'ing tonight is absurd.

I'm not exactly a JVM fan or want him DHing, but that ball had an xba of .570.

Just keep hitting the ball hard and it'll eventually even out.

Big Klu
08-20-2020, 09:17 PM
nm

RedsBrick
08-20-2020, 09:18 PM
Man, after a dominant 1st, Sonny isn't feeling it.

Ironman92
08-20-2020, 09:18 PM
Sonny having trouble with the mound...not comfortable landing and itís pretty obvious

EnglishRed
08-20-2020, 09:19 PM
Yea at this point I've seen just about all the JVM I care to see. That he's DH'ing tonight is absurd.

Think Bell has done that to spite me because i said his fielding is decent.

Big Klu
08-20-2020, 09:19 PM
nm

Kc61
08-20-2020, 09:19 PM
Van Meter is the first lefty off the bench. He tends to start games against RHP when somebody is out. It’s a meaningful role and he just isn’t hitting at all. They need to look for a replacement if things don’t change very fast.

Falls City Beer
08-20-2020, 09:19 PM
Man, after a dominant 1st, Sonny isn't feeling it.

Other teams beat themselves against Sonny. His control is pretty erratic. Cards will take the walk.

JFLegal
08-20-2020, 09:19 PM
Van Meter is the first lefty off the bench. He tends to start games against RHP when somebody is out. Itís a meaningful role and he just isnít hitting at all. They need to look for a replacement if things donít change very fast.

#captainobvious

reds77
08-20-2020, 09:20 PM
I'm not exactly a JVM fan or want him DHing, but that ball had an xba of .570.

Just keep hitting the ball hard and it'll eventually even out.

He's got a lot of evening out to do. Eventually, they just have to accept he isn't a big leaguer.

The Operator
08-20-2020, 09:20 PM
“Held up.... but not enough”


Good save, Jim


Lol

JFLegal
08-20-2020, 09:20 PM
sunshine blows carpenter away with the fastball. two down.

klw
08-20-2020, 09:20 PM
Hello all. I commented on the Thom thread that I would stop by tonight. I had made the decision before the season started to take a step back from the Reds this year, though I still periodically read the threads on RedsZone. I have also noticed that a few people were concerned about my absence -- rest assured, I am still alive and currently healthy. (Hopefully that continues when school resumes this fall!)

Anyway, my absence is not due to any friction or dissatisfaction with the Reds or this site. When the apocalypse started back in March, I was focused on the day-to-day struggle of getting by, and also keeping tabs on my parents. Baseball took a back seat in my life. By the end of April, I realized that I didn't even miss baseball, as I was spending my time working on household projects I had neglected.

When baseball finally made plans to resume, I just didn't have an interest. The short season seems too much like an exhibition season or Spring Training season to me, and I just couldn't get emotionally invested in it, especially when where was the possibility that the season could be suspended or cancelled at any time.

I also had reservations about the rule changes. I was OK with the expanded rosters, but I was strongly opposed to the DH. (if I wanted to follow AL baseball, I would have become a Red Sox, Indians, or Tigers fan years ago.) I was even more strongly opposed to the 10th inning rule -- I would prefer ties over that rec league BS. I understood -- but still disliked -- the 7-inning doubleheaders, though my biggest fear was that all of these "temporary" 2020 rule changes will become permanent. So I decided that -- rather than get emotionally worked up over all of it -- I would just take a couple of steps back and not get involved with the 2020 season.

I still try to read RedsZone regularly, though. It has become a habit over the years, and I enjoy the interaction. Anyway, I'm still alive and kicking, and though I'm not around as often, I will still pop in now and then!

As this post is in a game thread it does not effect Big Klu's post total. As a result the top 12 posters by post totals remain:


KronoRed 61,235
westofyou 49,903
dougdirt 49,230
Chip R 40,261
M2 39,374
OnBaseMachine 38,001
Tom Servo 32,555
Puig Your Red 29,196
Big Klu 28,344
GAC 28,313
Kc61 28,100
Falls City Beer 27,205

JFLegal
08-20-2020, 09:22 PM
steeeeeerike 3!

The Operator
08-20-2020, 09:23 PM
CB Bucknor helps us out haha


Nice bounce back for Sonny

RedsBrick
08-20-2020, 09:23 PM
Other teams beat themselves against Sonny. His control is pretty erratic. Cards will take the walk.

They do look at a pitch.

JFLegal
08-20-2020, 09:23 PM
CB Bucknor helps is out haha


Nice bounce back for Sonny

nah, that was definitely a strike.

Ironman92
08-20-2020, 09:23 PM
CB Bucknor helps us out haha


Nice bounce back for Sonny

It was in the k zone

JFLegal
08-20-2020, 09:26 PM
lol, did votto think he got that one? routine fly to center.

The Operator
08-20-2020, 09:26 PM
nah, that was definitely a strike.

Fair enough, didn’t get a great look at it. Just knew the hitter was arguing and, well, it is CB Bucknor


I had a 50% chance of being right, mich like CB on most of his calls haha

Tom Servo
08-20-2020, 09:26 PM
lol, did votto think he got that one? routine fly to center.
No.

mhs95_06
08-20-2020, 09:27 PM
CB seems to be on a little hot streak with calling balls and strikes!

RedsBrick
08-20-2020, 09:27 PM
lol, did votto think he got that one? routine fly to center.

No, Votto didn't think he got that one.

JFLegal
08-20-2020, 09:27 PM
No.

he kinda posed like he thought he crushed it.

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reds piss down their leg that inning.

JFLegal
08-20-2020, 09:29 PM
No, Votto didn't think he got that one.

yeah he did

Wonderful Monds
08-20-2020, 09:29 PM
Other teams beat themselves against Sonny. His control is pretty erratic. Cards will take the walk.

I will not accept this Sonny Gray slander

Coopdaddy67
08-20-2020, 09:29 PM
He's got a lot of evening out to do. Eventually, they just have to accept he isn't a big leaguer.

Like I said, I'm not suggesting JVM should be the DH, but that AB wasn't the issue.

He hit it hard. Goldschmidt was just there and made a solid play.

RedsBrick
08-20-2020, 09:31 PM
yeah he did

You want to believe he posed like he think he got it...but no, he didn't.

RedTeamGo!
08-20-2020, 09:32 PM
Other teams beat themselves against Sonny. His control is pretty erratic. Cards will take the walk.

What a silly take

JFLegal
08-20-2020, 09:32 PM
the rapper nelly keeps looking at me.

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two down.

The Operator
08-20-2020, 09:33 PM
What a silly take

“It’s not that Sonny is good, it’s that everyone other than The Cardinals is bad. Sonny will face his comeuppance tonight against the only elite organization in baseball”.

RedTeamGo!
08-20-2020, 09:34 PM
Sonny Gray has a 45 to 9 K to BB ratio because everyone gets themselves out against him. Has nothing to do with Gray being good.

Goodness.

JFLegal
08-20-2020, 09:34 PM
You want to believe he posed like he think he got it...but no, he didn't.

i don't want to believe it, i just know what i saw. he thought he tagged it. and it was a routine fly to center.

Umkubas
08-20-2020, 09:34 PM
I don't care that he can play multiple positions. I don't care about other stats that might justify his roster spot. JVM is hitting .067. He should not be playing.

JFLegal
08-20-2020, 09:34 PM
molina lazy fly to left. 1-2-3 inning for sunshine.

RedsBrick
08-20-2020, 09:35 PM
i don't want to believe it, i just know what i saw. he thought he tagged it. and it was a routine fly to center.

I should never have engaged. My bad.

JFLegal
08-20-2020, 09:36 PM
I should never have engaged. My bad.

it's ok.

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kevin st. clair is currently trying to speak english!

RedsBrick
08-20-2020, 09:36 PM
it's ok.

Trust me, won't happen again.

JFLegal
08-20-2020, 09:37 PM
Trust me, won't happen again.

cool, no one cares.

Umkubas
08-20-2020, 09:37 PM
Yea at this point I've seen just about all the JVM I care to see. That he's DH'ing tonight is absurd.

Umkubas
08-20-2020, 09:38 PM
The fact that the Reds trot out VM as the DH points up how totally threadbare this organization is. They canít find *anyone* in their minors who could do better?

Rantly
08-20-2020, 09:39 PM
As this post is in a game thread it does not effect Big Klu's post total. As a result the top 12 posters by post totals remain:


KronoRed 61,235
westofyou 49,903
dougdirt 49,230
Chip R 40,261
M2 39,374
OnBaseMachine 38,001
Tom Servo 32,555
Puig Your Red 29,196
Big Klu 28,344
GAC 28,313
Kc61 28,100
Falls City Beer 27,205

Ok, we heard from Klu, you out there Chip?

JFLegal
08-20-2020, 09:39 PM
pretty awful AB there from suarez. need to do better than just throwing your bat at the ball.

Bourgeois Zee
08-20-2020, 09:40 PM
Welp, that's all the game thread I can stand...

There are a couple of you who make this truly painful.

Umkubas
08-20-2020, 09:40 PM
He's got a lot of evening out to do. Eventually, they just have to accept he isn't a big leaguer.

JFLegal
08-20-2020, 09:40 PM
4-2 reds headed to the bottom of 5.

JFLegal
08-20-2020, 09:42 PM
piccoro!

anyone think he reached out to thom to tell him thanks? no?

Coopdaddy67
08-20-2020, 09:43 PM
yeah he did

No he didn't. Stop making a fool of yourself.

reds77
08-20-2020, 09:43 PM
It's good to see Sonny has recovered from the tough inning. I'd like to see him get the win.

Red Raindog
08-20-2020, 09:43 PM
Trust me, won't happen again.

Thereís an ignore block option


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

JFLegal
08-20-2020, 09:43 PM
No he didn't. Stop making a fool of yourself.

watch it again as i did. he definitely did.

and chill with personal attacks.

JFLegal
08-20-2020, 09:45 PM
sonny fans wong with a wicked curve. two down!

RedsBrick
08-20-2020, 09:46 PM
Can't hit that pitch.

JFLegal
08-20-2020, 09:46 PM
sonny's curve is on point right now.

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wow, that 0-1 pitch was a strike.

The Operator
08-20-2020, 09:47 PM
Well that stunk

JFLegal
08-20-2020, 09:47 PM
suarez with a half-assed effort for the 2-base error. horrible.

is welsh drunk? he thinks that should be a double? lmao.

DocRed
08-20-2020, 09:47 PM
Man...Suarez D has been awful this year.

Bruce Berenyi
08-20-2020, 09:47 PM
.067 amazing

JFLegal
08-20-2020, 09:48 PM
my god, any high school third baseman would have caught that, and welsh is making excuses for suarez. routine play.

WVRedsFan
08-20-2020, 09:48 PM
I've about had it here.

podgejeff_
08-20-2020, 09:48 PM
How was that not a strike?

DocRed
08-20-2020, 09:48 PM
Our corner D is without looking probably the worst in all of baseball this year.

JFLegal
08-20-2020, 09:48 PM
making an error is one thing. going half-assed is another. suarez was the latter.

EnglishRed
08-20-2020, 09:49 PM
Should stop making excuses for geno. I'd be disappointed not catching that without a glove.

JFLegal
08-20-2020, 09:50 PM
Should stop making excuses for geno. I'd be disappointed not catching that without a glove.

hahah exactly

NCReds
08-20-2020, 09:50 PM
How was that not a strike?

Barnhart did a terrible job at catching it. Looked like he didnít even attempt to frame.

JFLegal
08-20-2020, 09:50 PM
nice work suarez, what should have been an easy 1-2-3 inning is now getting "interesting."

NCReds
08-20-2020, 09:51 PM
Barnhart did a terrible job at catching it. Looked like he didnít even attempt to frame.

Should be in between innings now

Kc61
08-20-2020, 09:51 PM
Suarez error leads to a walk, lots more pitches, a Cards threat.

JFLegal
08-20-2020, 09:51 PM
yes, better get lucas sims warming up. suarez will catch pop-ups better if he's pitching.

mgbrown66
08-20-2020, 09:52 PM
Our bullpen is going to blow this.

Mark it down.

JFLegal
08-20-2020, 09:52 PM
way to go sonny!!!

The Operator
08-20-2020, 09:52 PM
Sonny wiggles off the hook

TheBigLebowski
08-20-2020, 09:52 PM
Phew

The Operator
08-20-2020, 09:54 PM
Ah, the Griffey inside the park walkoff


That was so awesome. I was 14 at the time.

Tom Servo
08-20-2020, 09:54 PM
need more runs

TheBigLebowski
08-20-2020, 09:56 PM
Shogo with another softly hit grounder.

mgbrown66
08-20-2020, 09:56 PM
ShoGo is a bum.

Big Klu
08-20-2020, 09:57 PM
I wish the coaches would wear their uniforms instead of pullovers, so we could tell who was who.

Or maybe wear masks with their uniform numbers on them.

Ironman92
08-20-2020, 09:57 PM
Van Meter batting average vs Bauer ERA...tight

JFLegal
08-20-2020, 09:57 PM
let's go! get an add-on run here somehow.

mgbrown66
08-20-2020, 09:58 PM
VanMeter is a bigger bum than ShoGo.

JFLegal
08-20-2020, 09:58 PM
galvis tries to bunt for a hit, unsucessfully.

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klu ... a laura's lean commercial!

adkindo
08-20-2020, 09:59 PM
not sure I get that....you hit one 400 feet on this guy tonight...why bunt with 2 outs and nobody on?

ochoa30
08-20-2020, 09:59 PM
Ugh, just poor quality AB’s the last 4 innings by pretty much everyone

JFLegal
08-20-2020, 09:59 PM
sooooooo corny lmao

Kc61
08-20-2020, 10:00 PM
not sure I get that....you hit one 400 feet on this guy tonight...why bunt with 2 outs and nobody on?

Because the left side is open due to the shift.

But you have to make a good bunt.

Bruce Berenyi
08-20-2020, 10:00 PM
its going to take a lot of outs to dip below .067 mathematics is helping jvm

RedTeamGo!
08-20-2020, 10:01 PM
I hate to pile on a guy, but there is no reason JVM should be on this team tomorrow morning. None. Sure he’s a nice guy, but he’s completely overmatched at the big league level. Time to bring someone else up and give them a chance. Time to see Aquino. Why is every reds reporter not asking the Reds every single day “where is Aquino?”

JFLegal
08-20-2020, 10:01 PM
its going to take a lot of outs to dip below .067 mathematics is helping jvm

do you think aquino would do better? ;)

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steeeeeerike 3!

adkindo
08-20-2020, 10:02 PM
Because the left side is open due to the shift.

But you have to make a good bunt.

ok....slightly higher chance than normal which is very low that you get on....and Tucker is up next? Like I said, you hit one 400 Feet on this guy an hour ago....I would prefer he try to duplicate that act.

Rantly
08-20-2020, 10:02 PM
Barnhart did a terrible job at catching it. Looked like he didnít even attempt to frame.

Fooled JB, Tucker set up way inside and had to reach to the outside of the strike zone to catch it