Reds @ St. Louis 8-23-20

[Ron Madden]

First Pitch 2:15

Reds
1. Joey Votto (L) 1B
2. Nick Castellanos (R) RF
3. Jesse Winker (L) DH
4. Eugenio Suarez (R) 3B
5. Mike Moustakas (L) 2B
6. Shogo Akiyama (L) CF
7. Mark Payton (L) LF
8. Freddy Galvis (S) SS
9. Tucker Barnhart (L) C
SP Tyler Mahle (R)

Cardinals
1. Kolten Wong (L) 2B
2. Brad Miller (L) 3B
3. Paul Goldschmidt (R) DH
4. Matt Carpenter (L) 1B
5. Tyler O'Neill (R) LF
6. Yadier Molina (R) C
7. Paul DeJong (R) SS
8. Dylan Carlson (S) RF
9. Harrison Bader (R) CF
SP Daniel Ponce de Leon (R)

[NebraskaRed]

Payton getting his first MLB start.

[WVRedsFan]

David has a new play toy. It's called Mark Peyton. Hope the kid does well, but any new player seems to start right away. Strange.

[Rolando]

First Pitch 2:15

Reds
1. Joey Votto (L) 1B
2. Nick Castellanos (R) RF
3. Jesse Winker (L) DH
4. Eugenio Suarez (R) 3B
5. Mike Moustakas (L) 2B
6. Shogo Akiyama (L) CF
7. Mark Payton (L) LF
8. Freddy Galvis (S) SS
9. Tucker Barnhart (L) C
SP Tyler Mahle (R)

Cardinals

SP Daniel Ponce de Leon (R)

I will post the Cardinals lineup when it becomes available

Looks like a winning lineup to me!

[JFLegal]

let's hope the reds 'discover' their offense against ponce de leon.

[Coopdaddy67]

Is today the day Eugenio Suarez remembers how to hit? One can hope.

[Ron Madden]

The St. Louis lineup has been added to the original post

[Umkubas]

Is today the day Eugenio Suarez remembers how to hit? One can hope.

$9,535,714

[Ron Madden]

Bobby Nightengale
@nightengalejr
David Bell said Robert Stephenson is with the #Reds and will be activated from IL soon.

[JFLegal]

$9,535,714

49 home runs in 2019. Second-most in Cincinnati Reds history.

[Wonderful Monds]

$9,535,714


https://youtu.be/W_FRPoJIrlI

[Tom Servo]

$9,535,714
Easily the worst bit on here.

[DocRed]

DeJong back..of course. Looks like their starting lineup is back to full strength.

[JaxRed]

My Tea Leaves (@tm) reading is that if Stephenson is back in next few days, Mahle goes down. And then comes back as 29th man next Saturday for DoubleHeader. Except I'm not sure if he'd be eligible to come back back. Is 29th man exempt from the 10 day rule?

[Kc61]

Not sure about Payton, but still prefer this lineup with Winker at DH and Payton in LF.

Should be much better defensively, and Payton can’t be worse against RHP than Van Meter was.

Hopeful this will work out.

[Kc61]

My Tea Leaves (@tm) reading is that if Stephenson is back in next few days, Mahle goes down. And then comes back as 29th man next Saturday for DoubleHeader. Except I'm not sure if he'd be eligible to come back back. Is 29th man exempt from the 10 day rule?

Under the 26th man rule, which was in place before this season, Mahle would be eligible for the doubleheader in that situation. I assume that same rule applies to the current “29th man” situation.

[Alabama Red]

Why keep putting an automatic out in the middle of the order? Geno should play every day but get him out of the middle of the lineup until he starts producing.

[Kc61]

Why keep putting an automatic out in the middle of the order? Geno should play every day but get him out of the middle of the lineup until he starts producing.

Who replaces Suarez in the 1-5 spots:

Shogo, Payton, Galvis, or Barnhart?

[mth123]

Who replaces Suarez in the 1-5 spots:

Shogo, Payton, Galvis, or Barnhart?

Probably Galvis. I'm still a skeptic, but he's been hitting this year. I'd probably flip flop them.

Winker
Castellanos
Moose
Galvis
Votto
Suarez
Payton
Barnhart
Akiyama

[JFLegal]

why is votto half-swinging there?

[JFLegal]

really nice AB from cast. walk.

[Kc61]

Without hits, I guess walks will have to do. Pile them on.

[TheBigLebowski]

What the heck was that?

[mhs95_06]

Winker past his peak of his latest hot streak.

[Big Klu]

So I tuned in to the game today (a rare occasion), and I notice that the Reds are wearing what looks like batting practice jerseys instead of their usual red jerseys? Or did they change their design this year?

At any rate, I don't like the script "Reds". I preferred the ones that were red/white negatives of the home jerseys.

[JFLegal]

suarez big fly!

but damn that contract.

[Tom Servo]

Geno! :jump:

[Coopdaddy67]

If that's the start of Suarez's season, it's very much appreciated.

[RedForLife]

A Geno bomb!

[TheBigLebowski]

THAT was a blast

[Kc61]

Just watching the first four batter, looks to me like Reds are trying to be more patient today.

They were earlier in the season.

Winker an exception. He was so hot maybe nobody told him.

[JFLegal]

moose draws a walk.

[Alabama Red]

Who replaces Suarez in the 1-5 spots:

Shogo, Payton, Galvis, or Barnhart?
Well, not a good time for my post. I’d move moustakis up a spot and put Galvis or Votto ahead of him. If Votto I’d move Galvis to the top.

[Tom Servo]

c'mon Shogo barrel one up

Had a pitch to hit and he just gets the end of the bat on it. Hopefully Zinter is working on this.

[Ron Madden]

c'mon Shogo barrel one up

I like Shogo but when was the last time he hit the ball hard?

[TheBigLebowski]

Shogo still cannot make solid contact

[Big Klu]

I understand that the populace has been demanding this, so here it is:

Congratulations to Eugenio Suarez, who has tied Lee May for 18th place on the Reds all-time home run list.


Updated Reds HR list (players in italics are active):

Reds 100-Home Run Club
1. Johnny Bench - 389
2. Frank Robinson - 324
3. Tony Perez - 287
3. Joey Votto - 287
5. Adam Dunn - 270
6. Ted Kluszewski - 251
7. George Foster - 244
8. Jay Bruce - 233
9. Ken Griffey, Jr. - 210
10. Eric Davis - 203
11. Barry Larkin - 198
12. Brandon Phillips - 191
13. Vada Pinson - 186
14. Wally Post - 172
15. Gus Bell - 160
16. Joe Morgan - 152
16. Pete Rose - 152
18. Lee May - 147
18. Eugenio Suarez - 147
20. Dan Driessen - 133
21. Reggie Sanders - 125
22. Ernie Lombardi - 120
23. Sean Casey - 118
24. Frank McCormick - 110
25. Todd Frazier - 108
26. Dave Parker - 107
27. Chris Sabo - 104
28. Dave Concepcion - 101

[Kc61]

Well, not a good time for my post. I’d move moustakis up a spot and put Galvis or Votto ahead of him. If Votto I’d move Galvis to the top.

Just don’t think they have enough guys hitting well to move Suarez down.

Hopefully Geno will now get going.

[Ron Madden]

I understand that the populace has been demanding this, so here it is:

Eugenio Suarez has tied Lee May for 18th place on the Reds all-time home run list.


Updated Reds HR list (players in italics are active):

Reds 100-Home Run Club
1. Johnny Bench - 389
2. Frank Robinson - 324
3. Tony Perez - 287
3. Joey Votto - 287
5. Adam Dunn - 270
6. Ted Kluszewski - 251
7. George Foster - 244
8. Jay Bruce - 233
9. Ken Griffey, Jr. - 210
10. Eric Davis - 203
11. Barry Larkin - 198
12. Brandon Phillips - 191
13. Vada Pinson - 186
14. Wally Post - 172
15. Gus Bell - 160
16. Joe Morgan - 152
16. Pete Rose - 152
18. Lee May - 147
18. Eugenio Suarez - 147
20. Dan Driessen - 133
21. Reggie Sanders - 125
22. Ernie Lombardi - 120
23. Sean Casey - 118
24. Frank McCormick - 110
25. Todd Frazier - 108
26. Dave Parker - 107
27. Chris Sabo - 104
28. Dave Concepcion - 101

Thanks Big Klu

[RedlegsFanatic]

Man that had to feel good for Suraez!
He really needed that, just wish he had done it yesterday when I drafted him lol.
We have a guy in our system that broke multiple rookie home run records last year that can’t even get a big league uniform. Meanwhile, players like Payton, Jokewiski, Ervin, etc, are getting starts.
This couldn’t be more ridiculous and needs to be addressed.

[Ron Madden]

We need Tyler to be pitch efficient

[RedsfaninMT]

Is today the day Eugenio Suarez remembers how to hit? One can hope.

One can hope!

[BCubb2003]

Wong’s bright yellow shoes with the red and white striped socks makes him look like Ronald McDonald.

[adkindo]

why not allow each player to have 4 family members allowed in the stadium.....set them 20-30 rows away from the field....that is a little more than 100 people that would not be close to the players.

[Ron Madden]

That was a strike

[AlaskaReds]

Reds batters had 3 or 4 questionable strikes called in the 1st inning and Mahle getting squeezed by this ump.

[Big Klu]

Wong’s bright yellow shoes with the red and white striped socks makes him look like Ronald McDonald.

Bah da bum bah bah...

[50YrRedsFan]

Mahle looking for trouble...missing his spots

[JFLegal]

mahle threw about 5 strikes to get the strikeout there lol

[Ron Madden]

A 4 strike K

[JFLegal]

Mahle looking for trouble...missing his spots

no he wasn't. two of the ''balls" were clearly strikes.

i think he intentionally pitched around goldschmidt before that.

[RedForLife]

Man that had to feel good for Suraez!
He really needed that, just wish he had done it yesterday when I drafted him lol.
We have a guy in our system that broke multiple rookie home run records last year that can’t even get a big league uniform. Meanwhile, players like Payton, Jokewiski, Ervin, etc, are getting starts.
This couldn’t be more ridiculous and needs to be addressed.

Must have something to do with that 'options' circus.

[adkindo]

if they ever go with robot umpires, I want there to actually be robots on the field....

https://i.gifer.com/qWq.gif

[AlaskaReds]

Mahle battles back and gets the K. This ump is completely lost though

[JFLegal]

great job my mahle. 2-0 reds headed to the second.

[Tom Servo]

if they ever go with robot umpires, I want there to actually be robots on the field....

https://i.gifer.com/qWq.gif
https://pcper.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/maxresdefault-1.jpg

"You have struck out. Please put down your bat. You have twenty seconds to comply."

[JaxRed]

28 pitches. Needs to have a few quick innings

[Kc61]

Mahle’s stuff seems improved this year. And it wasn’t bad last year.

With high pitch count, Reds may need to use all their best relievers. When you get to 3 under .500, games become do or die.

[Rotater Cuff]

Payton seems kind of small for an outfielder.

[Big Klu]

if they ever go with robot umpires, I want there to actually be robots on the field....

https://i.gifer.com/qWq.gif


https://pcper.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/maxresdefault-1.jpg

"You have struck out. Please put down your bat. You have twenty seconds to comply."

https://static3.srcdn.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/T800-in-Terminator-2-Judgement-Day-e1551905118715.jpg

[AlaskaReds]

https://static3.srcdn.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/T800-in-Terminator-2-Judgement-Day-e1551905118715.jpg

You guys are cracking me up lol

[Alabama Red]

Must have something to do with that 'options' circus.
He has already been up once this year so it’s already an option year. They can bring him up again and it’s still one option

[TheBigLebowski]

C’mon Joe.

[adkindo]

or we could go in a totally different direction...

https://wdef.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/sex-robots-1.jpg

[TheBigLebowski]

More of the same. Guys can’t get clutch hits to save their lives.

[adkindo]

I guess I just did not play enough baseball at a higher level because I will never understand the extreme hot and cold streaks some batters go through...

[Big Klu]

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/hanna-barbera/images/c/c1/J_uniblab.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/340?cb=20190705140133

[JaxRed]

Castellanos chases a ball out of strike zone on 2-0 pitch.

[50YrRedsFan]

A name from the past...Brandon Liebrandt, son of ex Red Charlie Liebrandt, making his MLB debut today with the Marlins.

[JFLegal]

dumb ump misses what should have been strike 3, then molina gets a single. fm.

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should at least be able to challenge balls/strikes. ridiculous.

[AlaskaReds]

Mahle paints the corner to K Molina, called a ball. Molina singles a few pitches later.

[JFLegal]

rookie ump no less. not that his veteran peers are any good at it either.

[Kc61]

Molina ran up Mahle’s pitch count then singled, tough at bat. Reds will need to get Sims up pretty early today. 39 pitches with no outs in the second.

One out, good K by Mahle.

[Ron Madden]

rookie ump no less. not that his veteran peers are any good at it either.

Cozarts donkey could do a better job. ;)

[JFLegal]

Cozarts donkey could do a better job. ;)

omg, i forgot about that. lmao.

[JFLegal]

nice play by barnhart. two out. runner on first.

[Ron Madden]

Nice play Barnhart

[TheBigLebowski]

Any news on Senzel?

[reds77]

Tie game.

[adkindo]

Bader again?!?!?

:bang:

[ZakkW]

Two-out HR aka the Tyler Mahle special

[TheBigLebowski]

These bozos can’t even keep Bader in the yard. He’s terrible.

[Tom Servo]

Brutal

[AlaskaReds]

Tie game, that one is on this ump and his inability to call consistent strikes.

[TheBigLebowski]

Mahle has thrown 53 pitches and the 2nd is still going.

[Kc61]

Terrible pitch by Mahle considering the kind of stuff he’s showing today.

Just a big mistake pitch, which often plagues him.

Reed had (hopefully in the past) the same problem.

[BluegrassRedleg]

Total meat.

[TheBigLebowski]

Now he’s balking. What a dork.

[Stray]

Man this game is taking forever

[adkindo]

Now he’s balking. What a dork.

"dork"....very popular when I was a kid, but I rarely ever hear today

[Kc61]

Suarez swings at ball four and is the second out.

[Umkubas]

Suarez swings at ball four and is the second out.

7 pitch out

[TheBigLebowski]

Mikey got all of that one, but the park held it.

[Kc61]

Reds now with 7 hits in their last 21 innings.

[adkindo]

this lineup needs something....1 hit again today. Just try anything.....put Winker back in the leadoff spot. Try something different to see if it can spark some hits.

[Kc61]

this lineup needs something....1 hit again today. Just try anything.....put Winker back in the leadoff spot. Try something different to see if it can spark some hits.

Most of the hitters are failing. You can put them in any order you want.

[ochoa30]

How can this team be hitting so poorly? I just don’t get it. Every single player besides Winker is underperforming. It’s wild.

[TheBigLebowski]

How can this team be hitting so poorly? I just don’t get it. Every single player besides Winker is underperforming. It’s wild.

It’s not their fault. It’s who we are. The suck enters the bloodstream the moment they put on the jersey.

[BluegrassRedleg]

How can this team be hitting so poorly? I just don’t get it. Every single player besides Winker is underperforming. It’s wild.

People have long debated leadership in baseball, but I don't sense any leadership or sense of urgency from this team's everyday players.

[Kc61]

How can this team be hitting so poorly? I just don’t get it. Every single player besides Winker is underperforming. It’s wild.

The usual pattern is that a team slumps, everybody starts to press, and the problem gets worse.

The unacceptable part is that Reds have folllowed that pattern to open each of the last three seasons.

And there year there isn’t time to recover.

[ZakkW]

Shocking... another 2-out run scoring basehit given up by Mahle

[Tom Servo]

You’d think it was still 2011 the way Molina is playing this series

[Kc61]

People have long debated leadership in baseball, but I don't sense any leadership or sense of urgency from this team's everyday players.

I don’t buy this one bit. There is absolutely no basis for it.

They are failing at the baseball skills, hitting, fielding, some pitching.

[BluegrassRedleg]

Meat. Again.

[Tom Servo]

I’d call it a day for Mahle, don’t think it’s gonna get any better from here.

[TheBigLebowski]

Mahle’s a potato.

[JFLegal]

let's go shogo, clap, clap, clap clap clap.

[Ron Madden]

Alright Shogo

[TheBigLebowski]

That one was barreled! First one of the year.

[TheBigLebowski]

Was Mark Payton the guy who played Tyrion Lannister?

[adkindo]

this feels like the longest game....

[Kc61]

Low ball umpire.

[Alabama Red]

Umpire gave two strikes to them on MP’s AB.

[BluegrassRedleg]

I don’t buy this one bit. There is absolutely no basis for it.

They are failing at the baseball skills, hitting, fielding, some pitching.

Normally, I'd concur. But the original question was how is it affecting almost every guy but one on the roster. That indicates to me that something is missing.

[JFLegal]

this offense could make any scrub pitcher look at least decent, or perhaps like cy young.

[adkindo]

maybe should have let Galvis go, and kept Iglesias

[TheBigLebowski]

And now freaking Barnhart is trying to bunt his way on.

[Ron Madden]

Bobby Nightengale
@nightengalejr
Trevor Bauer on the #Reds' roster with the trade deadline in a week: "I think that everyone here feels like we have the pieces we need to win and win a lot. ... We all feel that we have what we need. We just have to find a way to do it on a nightly basis."

[mhs95_06]

This rookie ump is paying too much attention to calling swing or no swing(let the down the line umps worry about that), and not enough attention to seeing if the pitch went thru the strike zone or not.

[Kc61]

Normally, I'd concur. But the original question was how is it affecting almost every guy but one on the roster. That indicates to me that something is missing.

There is absolutely nothing to indicate a lack of leadership or urgency. It is completely unfounded. It’s what fans say out of frustration when they see bad baseball.

Batting slumps become contagious and get magnified by pressing. That is the common reason for these kinds of team slumps.

[TheBigLebowski]

Good start Mikey boy

[mhs95_06]

maybe should have let Galvis go, and kept Iglesias

I would agree after Iggy signed for what he did, but the opportunity to get Galvis needed to be taken before they would know about Iggy. I think they made the prudent choice at the time.

[Tom Servo]

There is absolutely nothing to indicate a lack of leadership or urgency. It is completely unfounded. It’s what fans say out of frustration when they see bad baseball.

Batting slumps become contagious and get magnified by pressing. That is the common reason for these kinds of team slumps.
It's been like a three year slump though. I just don't understand on it's on face, this is a team with talent. So I do start to believe there's a problem with leadership or an internal flame that isn't being sparked, the kind of things that the Reds finally got when they traded for Rolen.

[Ron Madden]

Good Play!

[BluegrassRedleg]

There is absolutely nothing to indicate a lack of leadership or urgency. It is completely unfounded. It’s what fans say out of frustration when they see bad baseball.

Batting slumps become contagious and get magnified by pressing. That is the common reason for these kinds of team slumps.

Sometimes it is, sometimes it is not.

You're 26 games into a season. Not a week. Not two weeks. THOSE are team slumps for MLB teams. Something *might* be missing. It's not "completely unfounded" to suggest it as a mere possibility.

[adkindo]

nice play to save a run!

[TheBigLebowski]

Really nice play

[JFLegal]

i enjoyed the latter part of that half-inning. ;)

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lil momentum builder there, perhaps.

[mhs95_06]

I think Moose threw that in the dirt on purpose for some reason. And because of having to field it on the bounce with his glove going up, Tucker actually missed the tag and the Cards declined to challenge.

[ochoa30]

It's been like a three year slump though. I just don't understand on it's on face, this is a team with talent. So I do start to believe there's a problem with leadership or an internal flame that isn't being sparked, the kind of things that the Reds finally got when they traded for Rolen.

Exactly. Look around the league and even bad teams are hitting better with clearly less talent. It has to be the leadership. We see that the pitching is clearly getting it done or at least the starters yet the hitters are just stuck in a 3 year rut while we’ve changed personnel and coaching. It’s hard to wrap your head around.

[JFLegal]

nick the slick with a double.

[50YrRedsFan]

The shift has really affected Votto's offensive game.

[Ron Madden]

There you go Castellanos double!

[Ron Madden]

Da Wink with da walk

[adkindo]

it appeared the Reds clearly made the better choice with Castellanos ver Ozuna a couple weeks ago....but Ozuna has been very good recently and now is having a better season in many ways

[TheBigLebowski]

The shift has really affected Votto's offensive game.

Time and tide had a greater effect.

[BluegrassRedleg]

The Secret Card says: "Don't throw anything in the zone. This guy will get himself out."

[Ron Madden]

it appeared the Reds clearly made the better choice with Castellanos ver Ozuna a couple weeks ago....but Ozuna has been very good recently and now is having a better season in many ways

I'd much rather have Nick

[Big Klu]

The Secret Card says: "Don't throw anything in the zone. This guy will get himself out."

I thought it said, "Go to jail. Go directly to jail. Do not pass Go. Do not collect $200."

[Umkubas]

The Secret Card says: "Don't throw anything in the zone. This guy will get himself out."

5 pitch strikeout

[50YrRedsFan]

Suarez K's.

[Alabama Red]

Time and tide had a greater effect.
He went from 1 vote shy of the MVP to bad in one year. I think it’s just a combination of age, the shift, pitchers going after him more and he looks like he chopping at the ball. His swing just doesn’t look fluid. Either way, he’s not getting back to what he was and he needs to be at the end of the lineup.

[JaxRed]

Votto now below .700 OPS

[Tom Servo]

If only the Reds had hitters as good as Harrison Bader and Yadier Molina.

[TheBigLebowski]

Nice AB, Moosey.

[Big Klu]

The Secret Card says: "Don't throw anything in the zone. This guy will get himself out."


I thought it said, "Go to jail. Go directly to jail. Do not pass Go. Do not collect $200."

Turns out that it said, "Get out of jail free."

[TheBigLebowski]

Votto now below .700 OPS

That’s fantastic production from a premier offensive spot.

[adkindo]

That’s fantastic production from a premier offensive spot.

he said he would walk away if he could not play to his level of expectations.....I do not believe him.

[50YrRedsFan]

It must be the water in Ohio. The Reds and Indians are tied (before today's games) for the worst team batting average in MLB at .209.

[TheBigLebowski]

he said he would walk away if he could not play to his level of expectations.....I do not believe him.

He may consider it in the offseason. But he’s not leaving that kind of money on the table.

[Alabama Red]

He may consider it in the offseason. But he’s not leaving that kind of money on the table.
I think they may work out some type of deal. You know he has to be embarrassed and isn’t going to want to run out there the next 4 years looking like this.

[TheBigLebowski]

I think they may work out some type of deal. You know he has to be embarrassed and isn’t going to want to run out there the next 4 years looking like this.

I think he really believes he can get back to where he was if he keeps working at it and choking up more & more on the bat.

Hope I’m wrong, because he’s not helping this team do anything except lose.

[BluegrassRedleg]

Seem to be getting Lorenzen right. Or at least a lot less shaky.

[adkindo]

I think he really believes he can get back to where he was if he keeps working at it and choking up more & more on the bat.

Hope I’m wrong, because he’s not helping this team do anything except lose.

this year looks much worse to me at the plate compared to even last year.....he just looks overmatched at the plate

[Kc61]

Ervin out. Has a .107 BA.

[JaxRed]

He's toughed his way thru a couple innings without his best stuff. I kind of expect Jones next.

[RedlegsFanatic]

I had super high hopes for Shogo being a staple at the lead off spot for a few years.
But it looks like he was all hype and Cincinnati just wasted a bunch of money.
Here we are with Votto still leading off and popping up weakly to left field every other at bat just like the past 2 years.
It’s getting old.

[RedTeamGo!]

Votto is not going to give back any of his contract, folks. Even if he’s batting .100 over 4 months. Not happening. If it gets to that point the reds need to just use him a pinch hitter. It is what it is. It’s not his fault the reds decided to not for it from his age 32-36 seasons.

[Tom Servo]

:sleep:

[JaxRed]

Guess well see Jankowski now in cf

[Kc61]

Votto is not going to give back any of his contract, folks. Even if he’s batting .100 over 4 months. Not happening. If it gets to that point the reds need to just use him a pinch hitter. It is what it is. It’s not his fault the reds decided to not for it from his age 32-36 seasons.

The first step would be to move Votto down to sixth in the lineup. I always expected that would happen eventually. Down to seventh if necessary.

Joey will not accept this 60-game season as indicative of anything. He’ll be around next year.

[ochoa30]

:sleep:

There can’t be a more boring team to watch right now on offense

[50YrRedsFan]

Reds hitters really making the Cardinal pitchers work. 4 pitch inning for Cabrera.

[TheBigLebowski]

Freaking Janky is going to be a big part of this huge comeback.

This is the stuff that drives fans crazy.

We’re down a run in the 7th and we put in a defensive specialist.

[Kc61]

Reds now have 9 hits in the last 24 innings.

That’s one hit every 2 2/3 inning.

[Red Raindog]

Reds now have 9 hits in the last 24 innings.

That’s one hit every 2 2/3 inning.

You act like that is bad


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[Tom Servo]

Reds now have 9 hits in the last 24 innings.

That’s one hit every 2 2/3 inning.

Is that bad

[Kc61]

You act like that is bad


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It means that your second hit generally would come in the fifth inning of each game, assuming the hits were evenly spread out.

[TexasRedsFan]

I had super high hopes for Shogo being a staple at the lead off spot for a few years.
But it looks like he was all hype and Cincinnati just wasted a bunch of money.
Here we are with Votto still leading off and popping up weakly to left field every other at bat just like the past 2 years.
It’s getting old.

I had high hopes and have been disappointed also. But I still think he'll end up much better than this. He is facing pitchers he's never seen every single day, plus still getting adjusted to everyday baseball life in America. If it weren't such a short season and he had more time to get into a rhythm, I wouldn't be as concerned. He does seem to have good raw talent, especially on d. Hopefully we'll start to see a consistent bat soon.

[Tom Servo]

I had high hopes and have been disappointed also. But I still think he'll end up much better than this. He is facing pitchers he's never seen every single day, plus still getting adjusted to everyday baseball life in America. If it weren't such a short season and he had more time to get into a rhythm, I wouldn't be as concerned. He does seem to have good raw talent, especially on d. Hopefully we'll start to see a consistent bat soon.
He’s also not even reached 70 PAs yet. Yeah the early returns aren’t great but he certainly deserves some more rope.

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It’s so funny that the bullpen mostly stabilizes as soon as the offense truly goes into the toilet.

[Kc61]

Is that bad

It comes out to 3.375 hits per nine innings.

[adkindo]

Freaking Janky is going to be a big part of this huge comeback.

This is the stuff that drives fans crazy.

We’re down a run in the 7th and we put in a defensive specialist.

David Bell is worthless.

[malcontent]

I miss the old days of Bob C. and "the losing stops now".

[REDREAD]

I am not able to pay full attention to the game, but I noticed we are down a run , Jankowski did not start, but now
he's in the game.. WTF Bell.. Yes, I am sure there was a pinch hitter or something, but why not put Ervin or Shogo in CF (I can't remember which one started).

[ochoa30]

Will the offense got hot at some point is the only question that needs to be asked. If I’m answering I say no and I think the Reds should seriously considering selling in a year where there’s gonna be so many buyers. You may be able to get a game changer and that’s what this team truly needs.

[TheBigLebowski]

Good Lord. Votto is just a black hole.

[RedTeamGo!]

Oh Joey

[Red Raindog]

It means that your second hit generally would come in the fifth inning of each game, assuming the hits were evenly spread out.

You should not expect much more

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[adkindo]

If it gets to that point the reds need to just use him a pinch hitter. It is what it is.

I think we are there...

[Edskin]

Tough to see what has become of Votto. Father Time gets us all.

[Monster Man]

Does David Bell have a crush on Travis Jankowski? The guy can’t hit and shouldn’t be on a MLB team yet Aquino is a forgotten player. The team needs offense, not a defense/speed guy.

[RedTeamGo!]

Keep in mind Joey is a notorious slow starter. If this were a regular year we would be in like the first week May or something right now.

I know it sucks, but if that were the case people would not be freaking out as much right now.

[Kc61]

Does David Bell have a crush on Travis Jankowski? The guy can’t hit and shouldn’t be on a MLB team yet Aquino is a forgotten player. The team needs offense, not a defense/speed guy.

I guess you don’t watch when Reds are in the field. Like the bloopfest yesterday.

[50YrRedsFan]

I can't remember the last time the Reds scored without a HR

[ochoa30]

Tough to see what has become of Votto. Father Time gets us all.

At least he has an excuse. What’s the deal with the rest of these guys?

[TexasRedsFan]

Especially with the way he's hitting now, Votto is clearly not a fit at leadoff. Who else could they try there?

Winker's hit there before, but if his power stroke continues, he's probably better to have in an rbi spot. Galvis doesn't have high enough OBP for leadoff. Shogo fits the profile, but he's not consistent enough yet. Senzel works if he can ever stay healthy. So frustrating to watch this bunch continue to flounder.

[Monster Man]

They are struggling more offensively. For the most part, defense isn’t losing them games.

[adkindo]

I guess you don’t watch when Reds are in the field. Like the bloopfest yesterday.

defense does not matter if you can't score

[Rotater Cuff]

I can visualize Aquino as the DH. He would certainly have hit many home runs by now, although his average might be as low as a the top 3 of the batting order. What did he do to get on Bell's bad side?

[Kc61]

defense does not matter if you can't score

For weak hitting teams, run prevention is more important, not less important.

Pitching and defense always matters in baseball.

[BluegrassRedleg]

Just walk this SOB.


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[malcontent]

At least he has an excuse. What’s the deal with the rest of these guys?
I think it's obvious that there is no sense of urgency.

I also think this team will never win with Bell as manager, and cannot overcome a 0.700-ish OPS bat at 1B or DH....no matter where you try to hide it in the order.

[Monster Man]

For weak hitting teams, run prevention is more important, not less important.

Pitching and defense always matters.

Pitching and defense are important. You can’t win if you don’t hit, it’s that simple.

[BluegrassRedleg]

0-2 to Carpenter.

0-2 to Molina.

Idiot team.


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[Kc61]

Reds seem to love Nate Jones.

I don’t see it.

Thornburgh looks by far the best of the “bounce back” relievers.

[Ron Madden]

Nice Catch!

[Ironman92]

Not a Jones fan

[Tom Servo]

Likely gonna drop 3 of 4 because you couldn’t do enough against Wainwright, Ponce De Leon, and Kim and couldn’t contain Bader, Molina, and Carpenter.

Just awful stuff

[Ironman92]

What a catch!

[Rotater Cuff]

Keep in mind Joey is a notorious slow starter. If this were a regular year we would be in like the first week May or something right now.

I know it sucks, but if that were the case people would not be freaking out as much right now.

Was he as notorious of a slow starter the first 10 years of his career? Seems to be a narrative of his more recently

[adkindo]

I also think this team will never win with Bell as manager

[50YrRedsFan]

0-2 to Carpenter.

0-2 to Molina.

Idiot team.


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Not idiots, just below average major leaguers for the most part.

[BluegrassRedleg]

The Cardinals just have to laugh themselves to sleep every night before facing these guys.


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[Bunting Bad]

Molina is averaging 5.14 hits per nine innings in his last 4 at bats. Impressive.

[Ron Madden]

OUCH! That hurts

[Edskin]

Hilarious. Cards announcers predict his first ever HR... he falls behind 0-2 and then does it. Announcers just laugh.

The Reds, are quite literally, a joke.

[Ironman92]

Just don’t like Jones’s straight ball. Once used to the delivery his ball doesn’t move

[Kc61]

Reds have had some bad luck with hitters.

But some of these bullpen decisions are on them.

This is actual major league play, the games count. Not a tryout camp for relievers who once showed promise.

[Tom Servo]

Alright no more Nate Jones, he’s a pumpkin again

[BluegrassRedleg]

Just don’t like Jones’s straight ball. Once used to the delivery his ball doesn’t move

Ondrusek 2020

[RedlegsFanatic]

I’m done with Nate Jones.
Just like our entire coaching staff, he’s a joke that has no business in MLB.
The Cardinals could bring up their AA team into Buch and take 3 of 4 from the Reds in their sleep.
Can’t believe I drank the 2020 kool-aid.
I feel so foolish.
I mean.... it doesn’t take a baseball genius to know you absolutely CAN NOT give Yadi Molina anything up in the zone in that situation with a 1-2 count. And what exactly does he do? Lmao

[wally post]

Wong has Ronald McDonald shoes on

[Monster Man]

Send Nate Jones back to the garbage heap where they found him. This team is so painful to watch.

[TheBigLebowski]

Hilarious. Cards announcers predict his first ever HR... he falls behind 0-2 and then does it. Announcers just laugh.

The Reds, are quite literally, a joke.

They are a complete joke. I really hope they sell big time by the deadline. Team is full of clowns.

[50YrRedsFan]

This is a poorly constructed team. Poor defense, poor offense, absolutely no speed. Until the Reds brass changes how and who they give contracts to, it will remain as is.

[marcshoe]

I hate this new rule where a relief pitcher has to give up four runs before you can take him out.

[Kc61]

Alright no more Nate Jones, he’s a pumpkin again

Bring up R. Stephenson, send down Jones.

Then switch Mahle to the bullpen and use Antone as sixth starter required by doubleheaders.

Or just move on to next season.

[Ron Madden]

Jones will most likely be sent down when they activate BobSteve

[ochoa30]

Tyler Stephenson. Bring him up. Maybe Garcia too. Team has no youth and it shows.

[Edskin]

I just keep telling myself, thank God for the blessing of a 60 game season. I cannot imagine watching this team play an additional 100 games.

[BluegrassRedleg]

The bad part of this is STL sucks. And that will be made evident once they quit playing the inept dog and pony show from Cincinnati.

[Tom Servo]

This is a poorly constructed team. Poor defense, poor offense, absolutely no speed. Until the Reds brass changes how and who they give contracts to, it will remain as is.
Oh yeah speed was the real problem today.

[mhs95_06]

I hate this new rule where a relief pitcher has to give up four runs before you can take him out.

That apparently includes inherited runners on base, which actually could make it up to six total!

[RedlegsFanatic]

Does Caleb Cotham’s grandfather own a % of the Reds or something?
Dude couldn’t get my sister out and yet somehow the Reds have not only traded the best closet in the game at the time for him, but now hired him as assistant pitching coach and director of pitching. He not only couldn’t pitch his way out of a paper bag, he can’t teach it either. Unreal. This franchise makes moves that absolutely blow my mind.

[TheBigLebowski]

The bad part of this is STL sucks. And that will be made evident once they quit playing the inept dog and pony show from Cincinnati.

Just like the Royals, Tigers and Pirates. All of these teams had their best showings against the Deds. And Cleveland’s pitching staff will not look that good again this year. Carrasco has absolutely imploded since The Boys with Balsa Wood Bats & Blindfolds visited.

[EnglishRed]

The bad part of this is STL sucks. And that will be made evident once they quit playing the inept dog and pony show from Cincinnati.

This is the worrying thing for me. They were on the ropes with Covid and we've rolled over for them...

[RedlegsFanatic]

I hate this new rule where a relief pitcher has to give up four runs before you can take him out.

Making pitchers face 3 hitters is garbage also.
That’s not baseball.
If I want to carry an extra pitcher to use as a looguy, then I should be able to bring him in for 1 guy. You have to remember that makes my bench with 1 less guy.

[50YrRedsFan]

Oh yeah speed was the real problem today.

Lack of speed is a problem every day when the team has trouble scoring.

[Kc61]

Jones will most likely be sent down when they activate BobSteve

Now that the damage is done. Jones should never have pitched today. This was an important game, only down one run.

Sims was available he had yesterday off.

Jones has not pitched a full MLB season since 2016.

Reds seem fascinated with him, so they pay the price.

[RedlegsFanatic]

Actually a good call, but 1st time I’ve ever seen it called.

[Coopdaddy67]

Bell and the home plate umpire wearing masks without covering their nose while arguing amuses me.

[Rolando]

Now that the damage is done. Jones should never have pitched today. This was an important game, only down one run.

Sims was available he had yesterday off.

Jones has not pitched a full MLB season since 2016. Throwing important games away.
What a garbage call by the umpire. Sorry KC that had nothing to do with your post didn't mean to tag on

[RedlegsFanatic]

What if we had robotic strike zone?
Who makes that call on Winker?

[NebraskaRed]

9 hits total for the past 3 games.

[Jomama]

Molina has single-handedly out hit the Reds 4-3 today.

[mhs95_06]

Winker isn't as good at it as Rizzo and Deitrich! Neither is Votto!

[RedlegsFanatic]

What a garbage call by the umpire

Not really, per the rule book, it was the right call.
Umps just don’t call it.

[adkindo]

Actually a good call, but 1st time I’ve ever seen it called.

yeah, Winker clearly leaned into it.....I do not understand why the only guy that has been hitting for almost 2 weeks is trying to take a base by getting hit when we are down 4 runs in the 8th?

[Alabama Red]

This team is just not good. Starting pitching doesn’t matter when you can’t score runs and the bullpen gives up runs like ours does. I’d talked myself into thinking we would turn it around but after this series we’re done. We have about 10-11 players in the team that we should keep and deal the day at the deadline or dump them after the season. We need a rebuild.

[50YrRedsFan]

Only the Reds can do these kind of things.

[RedlegsFanatic]

Might as well get used to the idea of watching yet another post season that doesn’t include the Reds.
No chance they are winning anything with this coaching staff and GM.
Unfortunately.
Hope I’m wrong, but I’m not.

[Alabama Red]

Not really, per the rule book, it was the right call.
Umps just don’t call it.

I called it all the time in high school and every now and then they’ll call it in college. Never seen in in an MLB game.

[WVRedsFan]

Lord, this is a mess my team is in. Great starting pitching most of the time and then bringing in not ready for prime time players. This learning on big show time makes it hard to watch, though I will watch every night. Just frustrating

[Rolando]

Not really, per the rule book, it was the right call.
Umps just don’t call it.

Will you have to call it every it everytime not just what the pitcher complains

[RedlegsFanatic]

How is Cody reed STILL making money playing baseball? This is unreal.

[malcontent]

Ondrusek 2020
I had high hopes for that guy.

[50YrRedsFan]

How is Cody reed STILL making money playing baseball? This is unreal.

Because the Reds don't want to pay the money better players demand.

[RedlegsFanatic]

I’d rather have Brandon Phillips DHing or playing everyday than 1/3 of the guys David bell is running out there.

[Rolando]

How is Cody reed STILL making money playing baseball? This is unreal.
To be fair Joey votto is still making money playing baseball and that blows my mind

[mhs95_06]

What if we had robotic strike zone?
Who makes that call on Winker?

The human ump calls the HBP and the robot's buzzer in his pocket indicates the pitch was in the zone, and takes precedence. Human umps are responsible for HBPs, fouls or not, balks, baserunning outs at home, catchers interference, batters interference, etc.