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Ron Madden
09-04-2020, 10:32 AM
First Pitch 4:05PM


Reds
1. Joey Votto (L) 1B
2. Nick Castellanos (R) RF
3. Matt Davidson (R) DH
4. Eugenio Suarez (R) 3B
5. Jesse Winker (L) LF
6. Aristides Aquino (R) CF
7. Curt Casali (R) C
8. Jose Garcia (R) SS
9. Kyle Farmer (R) 2B
SP Luis Castillo (R)


Pirates
1. Erik Gonzalez (R) SS
2. Kevin Newman (R) 2B
3. Bryan Reynolds (S) LF
4. Colin Moran (L) DH
5. Gregory Polanco (L) RF
6. Josh Bell (S) 1B
7. Ke'Bryan Hayes (R) 3B
8. Cole Tucker (S) CF
9. Jacob Stallings (R) C
SP Steven Brault (L)

Wonderful Monds
09-04-2020, 11:10 AM
Woooo man that outfield defense

Shoeless Jeff
09-04-2020, 11:21 AM
Woooo man that outfield defense

Is offensive!

CaiGuy
09-04-2020, 11:22 AM
Is offensive!

I hope so! ;)

thatcoolguy_22
09-04-2020, 11:43 AM
Who is pitching game 2?

Ron Madden
09-04-2020, 11:44 AM
Who is pitching game 2?

Trevor Bauer

NebraskaRed
09-04-2020, 12:12 PM
Every game is pretty much a "must win" from here on out.

So, these two games today are games that Reds really need to win.

Ron Madden
09-04-2020, 12:12 PM
The Pirates lineup has been added to the original post

Ron Madden
09-04-2020, 12:39 PM
C. トレント・ローズクランズ
@ctrent
RHP José De León is the #Reds 29th player for today's doubleheader. Taxi squad is: IF Alex
Blandino (#0), RHP José De León (#87), OF Travis Jankowski (#31), nonroster RHP Sal Romano (#47) and C Tyler Stephenson (#37)

KeefeCato
09-04-2020, 12:50 PM
Woooo man that outfield defense

And Pitt has a lot of ground to cover in that OF.

JaxRed
09-04-2020, 01:03 PM
DeLeon added as 29th man. All Bell asks is an ERA below 30.00 and DeLeon (barely) qualifies.

thatcoolguy_22
09-04-2020, 01:32 PM
Trevor Bauer

Today could be an excellent day! Castillo and Bauer in 7 inning games? Sign me up!

Ron Madden
09-04-2020, 01:34 PM
Bobby Nightengale
@nightengalejr
Sonny Gray will not start Sunday vs. Pirates, pushed back to the Chicago series. Sunday's starter is TBA. #Reds

mth123
09-04-2020, 01:35 PM
Woooo man that outfield defense

I think Aquino will be fine in CF.

TexasRedsFan
09-04-2020, 01:36 PM
Has Aquino ever started in CF for the Reds?

Again I don't understand batting Farmer 9th. He usually gives quality at-bats. Garcia is the pitcher of this lineup for now.

forfreelin04
09-04-2020, 01:39 PM
Has Aquino ever started in CF for the Reds?

Again I don't understand batting Farmer 9th. He usually gives quality at-bats. Garcia is the pitcher of this lineup for now.

They probably should have taught the kid to hit a slider and a curve before they brought him up. He's not exactly impressed at the plate.

Ron Madden
09-04-2020, 01:41 PM
C. トレント・ローズクランズ
@ctrent
Willie Harris will coach 1st base for the #reds this weekend. Delino DeShields has a personal matter

Alabama Red
09-04-2020, 01:58 PM
Has Moustakas been relegated to a platoon role? I assume he isn’t hurt again.

forfreelin04
09-04-2020, 02:10 PM
Has Moustakas been relegated to a platoon role? I assume he isn’t hurt again.

Dude is getting ate up by the shift recently. I can remember at least 4-5 balls fielded on the ground in shallow right field that were hit on the nose. He needs to learn to hit the other way or it's gonna a long year.

RedlegsFanatic
09-04-2020, 02:23 PM
If you are like me, you probably found yourself making out what you thought would be the upcoming Reds lineup this off season after they signed Castellanos, Moose, etc, while being super excited about the season.
I’m curious, how many of you had Matt Davidson and Kyle Farmer getting 30 starts between them? In a 60 game season?
I guess I shouldn’t be too upset... at least the record breaking Aquino is in the lineup.

Ron Madden
09-04-2020, 02:45 PM
John Fay
@johnfayman
Bell says there's no timetable on Senzel. Miley is pitching a simulated game today at Prasco he could join the team in Chicago

NebraskaRed
09-04-2020, 04:08 PM
Votto knew that was going to be a walk from the first pitch onward.

podgejeff_
09-04-2020, 04:08 PM
Votto walks to open this up.

NebraskaRed
09-04-2020, 04:08 PM
Votto gets a 4 pitch walk. Castellanos swings at the first pitch (which was a ball).

Kc61
09-04-2020, 04:09 PM
Looks very sunny there, hope Reds guys can see what they are doing.

Reds again hit right into the shift for a double play.

NebraskaRed
09-04-2020, 04:15 PM
Find someone who loves you the way the Reds love hitting into the shift.

Kc61
09-04-2020, 04:16 PM
They probably should have taught the kid to hit a slider and a curve before they brought him up. He's not exactly impressed at the plate.

Garcia has added some speed to the defensive infield, which needed it. So I’m not too worried about the move, although he has struggled at the plate. I would have him hitting ninth as well, for now.

mhs95_06
09-04-2020, 04:17 PM
Lead-off 4 pitch walk leads to an 013 inning! As opposed to a 123 inning!

NebraskaRed
09-04-2020, 04:17 PM
Good inning for Castillo.

mhs95_06
09-04-2020, 04:18 PM
Castillo with an 8 pitch, 123 inning with one K.

Kc61
09-04-2020, 04:18 PM
Last season Reds were terrible in Pittsburgh. Hope they can adjust to the stadium better this season. Can’t hit semi-deep fly balls in Pitt and expect them to be home runs. Line drives, line drives, line drives.

CaiGuy
09-04-2020, 04:19 PM
They should really look into trading Castillo for something good, like a pitcher who could gove them 190 innings of 130 ERA+ baseball next year. /sarcasm

NebraskaRed
09-04-2020, 04:20 PM
Reds Media Relations
@RedsPR

Leading off this afternoon's game, Joey Votto became only the second players in Reds history, since 1900, to record 1,200 career walks (Pete Rose, 1,210).

mhs95_06
09-04-2020, 04:23 PM
Ump steals a K out of the jaws of a walk to Geno on a low change-up! Try to be locked in and get penalized!

NebraskaRed
09-04-2020, 04:23 PM
Cy Brault, apparently.

mhs95_06
09-04-2020, 04:25 PM
Did someone else have 1199?

podgejeff_
09-04-2020, 04:26 PM
Even the piped in crowd noise sounds disappointed with the Pirates.

adkindo
09-04-2020, 04:27 PM
Garcia looked good with that swing

Kc61
09-04-2020, 04:27 PM
Garcia, nice hit for the kid!

NebraskaRed
09-04-2020, 04:27 PM
Garcia!

Mitri
09-04-2020, 04:27 PM
Nice poke by Garcia. First RBI?

ZakkW
09-04-2020, 04:27 PM
Garcia! Way to capitalize on the Pirates E

757690
09-04-2020, 04:28 PM
Gracia drives in Aquino

Viva El Futuro!

Tom Servo
09-04-2020, 04:28 PM
It is cool when you get a hit when there are runners on base imo

podgejeff_
09-04-2020, 04:28 PM
Nice poke by Garcia. First RBI?

Yes sir.

BluegrassRedleg
09-04-2020, 04:28 PM
DR + Cuba = 1-0

Norm Chortleton approves

CaiGuy
09-04-2020, 04:28 PM
It is cool when you get a hit when there are runners on base imo

Should be their new strategy.

podgejeff_
09-04-2020, 04:29 PM
Should be their new strategy.

But home runs?

Alabama Red
09-04-2020, 04:29 PM
These last 8 games against the Pirates are must win games if we want a chance of making the playoffs. Anything less than 6-2 is going to be difficult to overcome.

CaiGuy
09-04-2020, 04:30 PM
But home runs?

Can do that too if they want.

mhs95_06
09-04-2020, 04:30 PM
Farmer missed his pitch on the 1-2 slider that was middle, middle.

CaiGuy
09-04-2020, 04:31 PM
I think Farmer is the most overrated player on Redzone.

CaiGuy
09-04-2020, 04:32 PM
These last 8 games against the Pirates are must win games if we want a chance of making the playoffs. Anything less than 6-2 is going to be difficult to overcome.

Gotta win both series. Actually every series.

podgejeff_
09-04-2020, 04:32 PM
I think Farmer is the most overrated player on Redzone.

He gets hits every now and then. And he can play like every position.

He's alright.

Kc61
09-04-2020, 04:33 PM
These last 8 games against the Pirates are must win games if we want a chance of making the playoffs. Anything less than 6-2 is going to be difficult to overcome.

6-2 should be achievable. A fair goal.

mhs95_06
09-04-2020, 04:34 PM
Reds have scored 1 run in 2 tries getting the lead-off runner on(kind of like the power play in hockey). Let's see what the Pirates can do with their first attempt.

Alabama Red
09-04-2020, 04:35 PM
I think Farmer is the most overrated player on Redzone.
Last year he hit 9 HRs in less than 200 plays appearances and is yet to hit one this year. Without the home runs he doesn’t add much. He also drove in a good amount of runs last year.

CaiGuy
09-04-2020, 04:35 PM
He gets hits every now and then. And he can play like every position.

He's alright.

Eh, he's not a good hitter, and he plays the infield decent for a backup catcher.

I don't dislike him, but he always gets these comments. This guy is a ballplayer. This guy can give you a good AB.

Seems to have fans, and I don't really get it.

NebraskaRed
09-04-2020, 04:36 PM
Castellanos is now doing that about once a week.

Alabama Red
09-04-2020, 04:37 PM
Is it just me or does it seem like Castillo gives up runs the inning after we score every game.

CaiGuy
09-04-2020, 04:37 PM
Castillo must be a terrible teammate, because his team is always sabotaging him.

Strikes Out Looking
09-04-2020, 04:37 PM
How is that ruled a double?

NebraskaRed
09-04-2020, 04:37 PM
Is it just me or does it seem like Castillo gives up runs the inning after we score every game.

Castellanos should have caught that ball. That's not on Castillo.

Kc61
09-04-2020, 04:37 PM
Day is correctly noting that Castillo has not been well supported by his teammates this year.

Either offensively or defensively. Or bullpenly.

mhs95_06
09-04-2020, 04:37 PM
Isn't that at least the 4th time already this season that Castellanos has missed a fly ball off his glove?

Alabama Red
09-04-2020, 04:38 PM
Castellanos should have caught that ball. That's not on Castillo.
It was hit hard though.

NebraskaRed
09-04-2020, 04:38 PM
Lol Pirates.

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It was hit hard though.

Hard hit or not, it was a ball that should have been caught by a competent outfielder.

CaiGuy
09-04-2020, 04:39 PM
Is it just me or does it seem like Castillo gives up runs the inning after we score every game.

A weak grounder and then (IMO) and error. Now he might get out of it.

Seems like he has to get 4 outs an inning.

Red Raindog
09-04-2020, 04:39 PM
Al Kaline - Nick is not


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podgejeff_
09-04-2020, 04:39 PM
Eh, he's not a good hitter, and he plays the infield decent for a backup catcher.

I don't dislike him, but he always gets these comments. This guy is a ballplayer. This guy can give you a good AB.

Seems to have fans, and I don't really get it.

Somebody who can simultaneously act as both your backup catcher or shortstop is valuable.

Any offense he provides is secondary honestly.

BluegrassRedleg
09-04-2020, 04:40 PM
Al Kaline - Nick is not


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He's giving Dante Bichette a run for his money.

Red Raindog
09-04-2020, 04:41 PM
Tip of the cap to Luis for escaping


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adkindo
09-04-2020, 04:41 PM
Castellanos needs to thank Geno, Tucker and Castillo for saving him that inning

podgejeff_
09-04-2020, 04:42 PM
I think it's high time we re-evaluate the whole "Winker is DH, Castellanos is RF" strategy.

Especially with Aquino in the mix.

Phoenix2
09-04-2020, 04:42 PM
Great job getting out of that! In the rundown, Casali tagged the runner with his glove when the ball was in his other hand. He may have still been out because the runner left the baseline...but that could have been a disaster.

NebraskaRed
09-04-2020, 04:42 PM
Castellanos needs to thank Geno, Tucker and Castillo for saving him that inning

And the Pirates for stupidly trying to run home on that grounder.

Reds Freak
09-04-2020, 04:43 PM
It would really help if MLB added the ability to DH up to five guys at a time, because that's about how many they have on the field in any given night.

Kc61
09-04-2020, 04:43 PM
Castellanos needs to thank Geno, Tucker and Castillo for saving him that inning

I think you mean Casali.

And yes, Nick owes the club and fans two of his patented doubles this game.

CaiGuy
09-04-2020, 04:43 PM
I think it's high time we re-evaluate the whole "Winker is DH, Castellanos is RF" strategy.

Especially with Aquino in the mix.

Problem is, the Reds have a number of candidates for DH.

mhs95_06
09-04-2020, 04:44 PM
Casali didn't seem to be in any hurry to tag out the runner caught off, then when he did, he didn't even look for the runner that should have been going into 2nd, but the hitter didn't know what happened and ran thru 1B even though Votto had left 1B long before and missed his chance to get to 2B, thus bailing out Casali's less than stellar play. Reds get out of it giving up no runs in the 2nd!

NebraskaRed
09-04-2020, 04:44 PM
Votto on base for the second time this game.

adkindo
09-04-2020, 04:45 PM
love those hits....line drives one hoppers in the outfield....that is baseball

podgejeff_
09-04-2020, 04:47 PM
Lol Pirates.

NebraskaRed
09-04-2020, 04:47 PM
He's hurt.

Kc61
09-04-2020, 04:47 PM
Pirates play worse defense than the Reds.

Not a good fact for them.

podgejeff_
09-04-2020, 04:49 PM
Somehow that was a strike.

NebraskaRed
09-04-2020, 04:51 PM
LeCure isn't bad in the booth.

podgejeff_
09-04-2020, 04:52 PM
Suarez barely misses a roundtripper but gets Votto home.

2-0 good guys.

NebraskaRed
09-04-2020, 04:53 PM
Watching Votto run hard is always funny to me.

Tom Servo
09-04-2020, 04:53 PM
The Reds got em on over and in, is that allowed??

Kc61
09-04-2020, 04:53 PM
Reds playing a nice style of offense so far in this game.

mhs95_06
09-04-2020, 04:53 PM
Davidson with the right idea going toward RF.

Tom Servo
09-04-2020, 04:54 PM
the Pirates rock

NebraskaRed
09-04-2020, 04:54 PM
Lol Pirates again.

adkindo
09-04-2020, 04:54 PM
Watching Votto run hard is always funny to me.

he looked like a middle aged father running to the swing set after noticing his toddler fell off and is crying

mhs95_06
09-04-2020, 04:54 PM
Winker with a cheap 2 out RBI!

podgejeff_
09-04-2020, 04:55 PM
Winker hits the bloop to end all bloops on a horrible pitch and gets Castellanos home.

3-0 against the the fightin' Clint Hurdles.

BCubb2003
09-04-2020, 04:55 PM
Pirates going to Pirate.

Boston Red
09-04-2020, 04:55 PM
The Pirates are refreshingly awful.

podgejeff_
09-04-2020, 04:56 PM
Guess we're gonna do all of that BABIP correction today.

adkindo
09-04-2020, 04:56 PM
what is going on.....just these nice contact hits!

mhs95_06
09-04-2020, 04:56 PM
Watching Votto run hard is always funny to me.

Thats why Geno had to get it out to the warning track to safely get the RBI.

Mitri
09-04-2020, 04:57 PM
I would wait til Reds win 3 out of 4 until we declare the Pirates awful. Reds have the suck capacity to turn this ship around quickly.

Ron Madden
09-04-2020, 04:57 PM
Tommy Thrall and Danny Graves are a pretty good team

adkindo
09-04-2020, 04:59 PM
I would wait til Reds win 3 out of 4 until we declare the Pirates awful. Reds have the suck capacity to turn this ship around quickly.

that was the pre September 2nd Reds....

podgejeff_
09-04-2020, 04:59 PM
Casali is working a nice AB up there.

No joke, Casali for starter.

Boston Red
09-04-2020, 05:00 PM
I would wait til Reds win 3 out of 4 until we declare the Pirates awful. Reds have the suck capacity to turn this ship around quickly.

Oh, the Pirates are awful. An historically bad team. That certainly doesn't mean the Reds won't manage to find a way to split the series or worse.

adkindo
09-04-2020, 05:00 PM
ah, I wanted to see Garcia get another chance with guys on base

NebraskaRed
09-04-2020, 05:00 PM
Brault might only go one more inning, at this rate.

CaiGuy
09-04-2020, 05:01 PM
Hate to give any props to the Cards, but the difference between the Cards and Pirates is palatable regardless of the names on the roster.


Maybe it is the coaching.

adkindo
09-04-2020, 05:02 PM
Casali is working a nice AB up there.

No joke, Casali for starter.

I have always preferred him....but I saw him those last couple outings while Tucker was out....he was moving noticeably slower that last game or 2. I am not sure he can handle a primary role....or more than 50%.

podgejeff_
09-04-2020, 05:03 PM
The baseball gods love seeing Curt Casali in pain.

Ron Madden
09-04-2020, 05:03 PM
Casali has taken a beating behind the plate this week

Tom Servo
09-04-2020, 05:04 PM
Oh, the Pirates are awful. An historically bad team. That certainly doesn't mean the Reds won't manage to find a way to split the series or worse.
Even their hitters with a track record of success are not only struggling their slashlines are insanely horrendous, it’s like they collectively went all in on tanking together.

mhs95_06
09-04-2020, 05:04 PM
Castillo has to guard against losing concentration with his 3 run lead.

adkindo
09-04-2020, 05:04 PM
not sure the contact that was made....but it could not have been clean, or he would still be down trying to find a way to breathe....

podgejeff_
09-04-2020, 05:05 PM
I have always preferred him....but I saw him those last couple outings while Tucker was out....he was moving noticeably slower that last game or 2. I am not sure he can handle a primary role....or more than 50%.

Maybe so.

Ultimately I just want Tyler Stephenson up with the big league club.

At this point I feel like Bruce screaming for Aquino.

adkindo
09-04-2020, 05:06 PM
the day games seem to really highlight the lack of fans....this looks like a Saturday noon game between Rice and SMU

CaiGuy
09-04-2020, 05:07 PM
the day games seem to really highlight the lack of fans....this looks like a Saturday noon game between Rice and SMU

Or between the Reds and Pirates lol.

podgejeff_
09-04-2020, 05:07 PM
Or between the Reds and Pirates lol.

I was gonna say...

This seems like the typical September daytime game in Pittsburgh when the Reds come to town.

mhs95_06
09-04-2020, 05:09 PM
It would really help if MLB added the ability to DH up to five guys at a time, because that's about how many they have on the field in any given night.

I think they could cure the shift problem, and the HR, K, or walk problem with one move -- two DHs, a P, and just 7 other fielders!

CaiGuy
09-04-2020, 05:11 PM
Castillo getting nimbly all the sudden. Sigh.

adkindo
09-04-2020, 05:13 PM
come on....shut this down now Castillo...we have been feeling to good to this point to have to start biting our nails

TheBigLebowski
09-04-2020, 05:13 PM
Castillo ain’t it.

BluegrassRedleg
09-04-2020, 05:13 PM
Obligatory LC zone-out in progress.

mhs95_06
09-04-2020, 05:13 PM
Moran with a classic case of not trying to do too much with a pitch. Then a double, but the lead is still intact on the book rule.

Boston Red
09-04-2020, 05:13 PM
Castillo being bad this year is disappointing.

adkindo
09-04-2020, 05:13 PM
guess we are nail biting

davereds24
09-04-2020, 05:13 PM
Castillo is turning into Homer Bailey.

TheBigLebowski
09-04-2020, 05:16 PM
Castillo is turning into Homer Bailey.

Peak Homer is probably a better bet.

BluegrassRedleg
09-04-2020, 05:16 PM
It may be time for people to stop saying "If they could just get in, I'll take my chances with Gray, Bauer, and Castillo." The third guy does not really belong in that conversation.

JFLegal
09-04-2020, 05:17 PM
very glad he "only" gave up 2, but my goodness is castillo weak mentally. no killer instinct. he needs to believe in his stuff and let it fly.

podgejeff_
09-04-2020, 05:17 PM
Peak Homer is probably a better bet.

Agreed.

He gave up two runs. It's not like this is a lost cause yet.

Tom Servo
09-04-2020, 05:17 PM
Two outs and a runner on second and it’s walk, single, double against possibly the worst offense in baseball. You can’t let that that happen.

adkindo
09-04-2020, 05:17 PM
3 innings down....4 to go. Probably need a couple more runs.

adkindo
09-04-2020, 05:18 PM
liked Garcia's last at bat....looked comfortable, hoping for something big this at bat

JFLegal
09-04-2020, 05:19 PM
liked Garcia's last at bat....looked comfortable, hoping for something big this at bat

i absolutely love him. we have our shortstop of the future (and present).

TheBigLebowski
09-04-2020, 05:20 PM
3 innings down....4 to go. Probably need a couple more runs.

Probably at least 3

podgejeff_
09-04-2020, 05:21 PM
Someone should tell Farmer to not bother swinging for this guy.

adkindo
09-04-2020, 05:22 PM
Someone should tell Farmer to not bother swinging for this guy.

that almost did not age well :)

podgejeff_
09-04-2020, 05:22 PM
that almost did not age well :)

I'm very ok with being wrong.

Since I have a lot of practice.

adkindo
09-04-2020, 05:25 PM
Probably at least 3

so you are expecting Stephenson to pitch tonight ;)

TheBigLebowski
09-04-2020, 05:26 PM
so you are expecting Stephenson to pitch tonight ;)

Projection based on Shook Castillo and at least 2 innings from our bullpen

Alabama Red
09-04-2020, 05:27 PM
Castillo has given up runs in 5 of the 8 innings after the Reds have scored during his starts this year. Two of the those innings where he shut them down was in his first start of the season What’s more amazing is that in 41 innings the Reds have only scored in 8. Mixed in his starts are 2 shutouts and one game where they scored one run.

TheBigLebowski
09-04-2020, 05:27 PM
Ok, get him the hell out

JFLegal
09-04-2020, 05:28 PM
here we go again. castillo breaking down mentally, giving up hits to scrubs.

Boston Red
09-04-2020, 05:28 PM
This is a brewing nightmare.

podgejeff_
09-04-2020, 05:30 PM
It's entirely possible the Pirates forfeit out of fear of Amir Garrett.

So we've got that going for us.

Ron Madden
09-04-2020, 05:30 PM
6-4-3 DP!

Boston Red
09-04-2020, 05:30 PM
Nice!!!

JFLegal
09-04-2020, 05:30 PM
way to buckle down! if luis can do that more often, he'll be an ace.

adkindo
09-04-2020, 05:31 PM
no worries....Luis has got this

TheBigLebowski
09-04-2020, 05:31 PM
That’s the gift he had to have. But I’m still pulling him right now.

JFLegal
09-04-2020, 05:31 PM
even jerky!

(oh wait)

Kc61
09-04-2020, 05:31 PM
i absolutely love him. we have our shortstop of the future (and present).

Garcia’s a very young player, and promising. I’d leave it at that.

Nice job by Castillo getting out of that inning with the DP. Reds need to start adding to the one run lead.

adkindo
09-04-2020, 05:32 PM
Garcia’s a very young player, and promising. I’d leave it at that.

so you are saying Barry Larkin is an idiot? does not know how to evaluate a SS? wow...just wow.;)

CaiGuy
09-04-2020, 05:33 PM
That’s the gift he had to have. But I’m still pulling him right now.

He made the pitches, how is that a gift.

The 2 run inning was all on him and his poor performance, but credit due where it is due.

JFLegal
09-04-2020, 05:33 PM
castellanos big fly!

Tom Servo
09-04-2020, 05:34 PM
Cast! :jump:

Ron Madden
09-04-2020, 05:34 PM
Castellanos!!!

I still like HRs

TheBigLebowski
09-04-2020, 05:34 PM
Little nicky

yes

podgejeff_
09-04-2020, 05:34 PM
Castellanos plays catch with the Reds bullpen.

4-2 good guys.

adkindo
09-04-2020, 05:34 PM
I am not always agreeable to the excuses about this season not counting, etc. etc., but Castillo is one guy I kind of feel that way about....his pitches just are not moving like they did last season and I wonder if it has to do with the funky preparation to season

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so I guess someone in the booth does not have to resign every time Castellanos goes yard...

JFLegal
09-04-2020, 05:35 PM
Garcia’s a very young player, and promising. I’d leave it at that.

Nice job by Castillo getting out of that inning with the DP. Reds need to start adding to the one run lead.

you shouldn't leave it at that. jose garcia will be the reds' starting shortstop for the next decade.

mth123
09-04-2020, 05:36 PM
Anyone else think Davidson's 15 minutes are up?

Kc61
09-04-2020, 05:37 PM
so you are saying Barry Larkin is an idiot? does not know how to evaluate a SS? wow...just wow.;)

No, I’m saying Barry Larkin has no crystal ball into the future. Neither do you or I.

He’s a promising kid but has a long way to go. Pitchers will adjust to him. He’s not a generational prospect, few are, it all depends on how he develops against big league pitching.

Ron Madden
09-04-2020, 05:37 PM
Geno was robbed!

Phoenix2
09-04-2020, 05:37 PM
Anyone else think Davidson's 15 minutes are up?

Not me.

TheBigLebowski
09-04-2020, 05:38 PM
We’re still extremely unlucky regarding BABIP

757690
09-04-2020, 05:38 PM
Anyone else think Davidson's 15 minutes are up?

His last hit was the grand slam against the Cardinals.

CaiGuy
09-04-2020, 05:38 PM
Anyone else think Davidson's 15 minutes are up?

Yep, I think Ervin was a better bet than Davidson, not that he was great.

Honestly, he shouldn't ever play against RH, and its got to be hard to delever with sporadic play against random lefties

adkindo
09-04-2020, 05:38 PM
you shouldn't leave it at that. jose garcia will be the reds' starting shortstop for the next decade.

I tend to agree he likely will hold the position for a while....my guess is the question is more about will he be closer to a Pokey Reese level or on the Larkin side of the spectrum (no, I am not saying as good as Larkin)

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His last hit was the grand slam against the Cardinals.

but that was a really nice hit

TheBigLebowski
09-04-2020, 05:39 PM
Come on PUNISHER

adkindo
09-04-2020, 05:42 PM
Come on PUNISHER

he has not even had a deep fly out in his at bats this season that I recall....not many at bats, but still his hits have been more line drives and his outs have not been deep drives. Probably a good thing.

podgejeff_
09-04-2020, 05:43 PM
Come on PUNISHER

Nevermind.

CaiGuy
09-04-2020, 05:43 PM
he has not even had a deep fly out in his at bats this season that I recall....not many at bats, but still his hits have been more line drives and his outs have not been deep drives. Probably a good thing.

As an Aquino skeptic, it's been great to see.

mth123
09-04-2020, 05:47 PM
Yep, I think Ervin was a better bet than Davidson, not that he was great.

Honestly, he shouldn't ever play against RH, and its got to be hard to delever with sporadic play against random lefties

Davidson is the guy to send out when Senzel returns. His OBP was .262 before his 0 for 3 today. His OPS is below .700 now. Thanks for the dingers. See ya Matt.

Kc61
09-04-2020, 05:48 PM
Davidson is the guy to send out when Senzel returns. His OBP was .262 before his 0 for 3 today. His OPS is below .700 now. Thanks for the dingers. See ya Matt.

Yes, unless they go with 13 pitchers for awhile.

Against LHP I’d just as soon see Winker stay at DH.

Kc61
09-04-2020, 05:50 PM
I would remove Castillo. I have a quick hook so could turn out wrong.

But he had a high leverage fourth, got out of it

Protect the two run lead. Only need to hold lead through seven.

Nice K, proving me wrong, just win.

podgejeff_
09-04-2020, 05:51 PM
Not a strike, somehow.

BluegrassRedleg
09-04-2020, 05:51 PM
I would remove Castillo. I have a quick hook so could turn out wrong.

But he had a high leverage fourth, got out of it

Protect the two run lead. Nice K, proving me wrong, just win.

Would feel a lot better about 2 innings of pen than 3, especially with another game to play.

Kc61
09-04-2020, 05:52 PM
Would feel a lot better about 2 innings of pen than 3, especially with another game to play.

Good point.

JFLegal
09-04-2020, 05:52 PM
brantley is so damn good as a TV color analyst.

TheBigLebowski
09-04-2020, 05:53 PM
The shift.

podgejeff_
09-04-2020, 05:53 PM
brantley is so damn good as a TV color analyst.

I'm honestly kind of enjoying our TV commentary these days.

Kc61
09-04-2020, 05:53 PM
brantley is so damn good as a TV color analyst.

Lecure and Brantley on pitching are worth a listen.

JFLegal
09-04-2020, 05:54 PM
now that's being aggressive! nicely done, luis!

Phoenix2
09-04-2020, 05:54 PM
Nice. Way to go Luis!

Ron Madden
09-04-2020, 05:54 PM
Good Job Luis!

podgejeff_
09-04-2020, 05:54 PM
If he's gonna keep pitching like that then save the bullpen.

adkindo
09-04-2020, 05:54 PM
8 for 15....

Kc61
09-04-2020, 05:55 PM
Proved me wrong, nice pitching by Castillo.

TheBigLebowski
09-04-2020, 05:55 PM
I’d have taken him out to start the inning. Glad he made me look silly.

Red Raindog
09-04-2020, 05:55 PM
Davidson is the guy to send out when Senzel returns. His OBP was .262 before his 0 for 3 today. His OPS is below .700 now. Thanks for the dingers. See ya Matt.

But who mops up then?

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mth123
09-04-2020, 05:56 PM
But who mops up then?

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Jones, Lorenzen, Stephenson

PuffyPig
09-04-2020, 05:57 PM
I would remove Castillo. I have a quick hook so could turn out wrong.

But he had a high leverage fourth, got out of it

Protect the two run lead. Only need to hold lead through seven.

Nice K, proving me wrong, just win.

I don’t think your thought process was wrong, even if it turned out that way.

I would have had him on a one base runner leash, but only because I want to build his confidence as we need him to succeed this year.


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Kc61
09-04-2020, 05:59 PM
I don’t think your thought process was wrong, even if it turned out that way.

I would have had him on a one base runner leash, but only because I want to build his confidence as we need him to succeed this year.


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One factor is in a seven inning game Reds do have good bullpen alternatives to fill a few innings.

Garrett, Iglesias, Sims, and Bradley. But thankfully Luis had a good inning.

podgejeff_
09-04-2020, 06:00 PM
Casali turns an 0-2 into a walk.

Casali for president.

TheBigLebowski
09-04-2020, 06:00 PM
Quality AB

This should be the primary catcher

Ron Madden
09-04-2020, 06:00 PM
CC should be our everyday catcher till TySteve gets here

JaxRed
09-04-2020, 06:03 PM
CC should be our everyday catcher till TySteve gets here tomorrow

FIFY

podgejeff_
09-04-2020, 06:03 PM
The ump's terrible strikezone giveth and taketh away.

But sometimes it giveth.

Ron Madden
09-04-2020, 06:03 PM
That ball was scorched

TheBigLebowski
09-04-2020, 06:03 PM
Just more pure bad luck.

adkindo
09-04-2020, 06:03 PM
sucks...just hit to the wrong place

podgejeff_
09-04-2020, 06:04 PM
I've seen enough

GIVE THE KID A 10 YEAR CONTRACT

BluegrassRedleg
09-04-2020, 06:04 PM
CC should be our everyday catcher till TySteve gets here

I think they'd see a net gain out of that move.

CaiGuy
09-04-2020, 06:04 PM
Garcia is a Red, he might as well het used to bad BABIP luck.

podgejeff_
09-04-2020, 06:05 PM
I repeat, Kyle Farmer.

Do not swing the bat.

TheBigLebowski
09-04-2020, 06:05 PM
Casali is the fastest living thing in this universe

TheBigLebowski
09-04-2020, 06:07 PM
Geez he should have killed that

JFLegal
09-04-2020, 06:08 PM
what in the hell was votto doing there?

TheBigLebowski
09-04-2020, 06:09 PM
That’s not the AB he’ll feature in his HOF application

TheBigLebowski
09-04-2020, 06:13 PM
He really pulled himself together since that 4th inning meltdown. This is the moxie he’ll need to take the next step.

KeefeCato
09-04-2020, 06:14 PM
Billy Hamilton DFA by Mets. Is that 2 or 3 DFAs for him this year?

podgejeff_
09-04-2020, 06:15 PM
Billy Hamilton DFA by Mets. Is that 2 or 3 DFAs for him this year?

I'll say this: if we're determined to roll with a speedy defensive outfielder/pinch runner, he's elite at both of those things.

CaiGuy
09-04-2020, 06:15 PM
Ugh, go after that guy.

Phoenix2
09-04-2020, 06:16 PM
Luis!

Ron Madden
09-04-2020, 06:17 PM
Alright Luis Castillo!!!

PuffyPig
09-04-2020, 06:17 PM
Castillo has allowed a 7/16 BABIP (.438) today, but has pitched around some bad luck.


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CaiGuy
09-04-2020, 06:17 PM
I am guessing Iggy for the 9th?

mhs95_06
09-04-2020, 06:18 PM
I don’t think your thought process was wrong, even if it turned out that way.

I would have had him on a one base runner leash, but only because I want to build his confidence as we need him to succeed this year.


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Need a run in the top of the 7th so Castillo can have a one runner leash, and the reliever won't have the tying run at bat.

mhs95_06
09-04-2020, 06:20 PM
Casali turns an 0-2 into a walk.

Casali for president.

The Pirate announcers said they think the Pirates must lead the league in 0-2 walks!

CaiGuy
09-04-2020, 06:21 PM
Need a run in the top of the 7th so Castillo can have a one runner leash, and the reliever won't have the tying run at bat.

Yeah regardless of the final score, the addon run really changed the dynamic of the game. Allowed Castillo to stay in the game to this point, and who knows what the bullpen gives you today.

Ron Madden
09-04-2020, 06:22 PM
WTG Moose

adkindo
09-04-2020, 06:22 PM
wow....Moose needed that hit

mhs95_06
09-04-2020, 06:26 PM
Now Moose can score on any hit except a 20 footer up the 3B line.

Ron Madden
09-04-2020, 06:27 PM
That was not a strike

mhs95_06
09-04-2020, 06:27 PM
Winker robbed for the last out!

TheBigLebowski
09-04-2020, 06:27 PM
Awful call

podgejeff_
09-04-2020, 06:27 PM
I enjoy how blunt Cowboy is in calling out horrible pitch calls.

CaiGuy
09-04-2020, 06:27 PM
That was not a strike

Wasn't for Castillo.

adkindo
09-04-2020, 06:28 PM
be honest....how many of you tried the "come awn wit it" at least once when they were discussing

JaxRed
09-04-2020, 06:29 PM
I know Bell won't do this but I'd let Castillo pitch until a batter reached.

kendooo16
09-04-2020, 06:29 PM
[emoji1672]

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TheBigLebowski
09-04-2020, 06:29 PM
Hold on tight folks

podgejeff_
09-04-2020, 06:30 PM
be honest....how many of you tried the "come awn wit it" at least once when they were discussing

As a proud member of the southern part of Reds country, I had no problem wit it.

TheBigLebowski
09-04-2020, 06:30 PM
And so it begins

CaiGuy
09-04-2020, 06:30 PM
So it begins.

podgejeff_
09-04-2020, 06:31 PM
So it begins.

BluegrassRedleg
09-04-2020, 06:31 PM
/gulp

TheBigLebowski
09-04-2020, 06:31 PM
Bah..come on

podgejeff_
09-04-2020, 06:32 PM
That was on Votto.

JFLegal
09-04-2020, 06:32 PM
votto is bad at catching baseballs.

TheBigLebowski
09-04-2020, 06:32 PM
The heck is Votto doing?

davereds24
09-04-2020, 06:32 PM
wow

Red Raindog
09-04-2020, 06:32 PM
Votto

Sigh


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JFLegal
09-04-2020, 06:32 PM
That was on Votto.

for sure.

Bob Sheed
09-04-2020, 06:33 PM
Old Man Votto forgot his bifocals again

Red Raindog
09-04-2020, 06:33 PM
I wonder if he lost it in the white background


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