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Ron Madden
09-05-2020, 02:37 PM
First Pitch 7:05PM

Reds
1. Joey Votto (L) 1B
2. Nick Castellanos (R) RF
3. Jesse Winker (L) DH
4. Eugenio Suarez (R) 3B
5. Mike Moustakas (L) 2B
6. Brian Goodwin (L) CF
7. Shogo Akiyama (L) LF
8. Jose Garcia (R) SS
9. Tucker Barnhart (L) C
SP Anthony DeSclafani (R)


Pirates
1. Erik Gonzalez (R) 3B
2. Adam Frazier (L) 2B
3. Bryan Reynolds (S) LF
4. Colin Moran (L) DH
5. Gregory Polanco (L) RF
6. Josh Bell (S) 1B
7. Kevin Newman (R) SS
8. Anthony Alford (R) CF
9. Jacob Stallings (R) C
SP Trevor Williams (R)

NebraskaRed
09-05-2020, 02:49 PM
Bell's commitment to Brian Goodwin is certainly something.

Ron Madden
09-05-2020, 02:52 PM
It's a small sample size but Goodwin hasn't impressed me yet.

Redsfan6272
09-05-2020, 03:45 PM
His sticking with Barnhart erks me too

mth123
09-05-2020, 03:52 PM
This season, Goodwin has a 105 OPS+. Senzel is hurt. Other than Castellanos, he's the best OF they have. When Senzel returns, Goodwin should play LF - possibly platooning with Aquino.

texasdave
09-05-2020, 05:06 PM
What a difference a year does NOT make. After 39 games last season, the Reds were 17-22. This season, same record.

Here are some oddities: In 2019, the team had a +30 run differential. This compares to the -27 run differential that they are sporting in 2020. This team is a relative -57 runs worse than in 2019, and has the same record. Strange game this baseball.
2020 has seen the team score 8 fewer runs than in 2019. This in spite of the three major offensive additions over the winter. The pitching staff has given up 49 more runs compared to last year! Whoa!

2019's winning percentage after 39 games (.436), after 60 games (.467), and after 162 games (.463). Last year's squad finished 28-32 after playing 60 games. Would that be enough to make the expanded playoffs in 2020? Or would that be close but no cigar?

Stay tuned.

UPRedsFan
09-05-2020, 05:09 PM
Where’s Galvis been? Right handed starter on the mound. Are they playing for next year?

texasdave
09-05-2020, 05:19 PM
Dreaded double post.

texasdave
09-05-2020, 05:21 PM
Where’s Galvis been? Right handed starter on the mound. Are they playing for next year?

Jose Garcia must be Ozzie Smith with the glove, because he is OPSing under .400, and has an OPS+ of 7. Yes, 7.

Kc61
09-05-2020, 05:56 PM
It's a small sample size but Goodwin hasn't impressed me yet.

.779 OPS in five major league seasons as a pretty good defensive CF/LF. Impresses me.

That’s his record, not some snippets on a TV screen after a few days. With Bell pulling him in and out of games like a third down pass rusher.

Jomama
09-05-2020, 05:59 PM
It's a small sample size but Goodwin hasn't impressed me yet.

He has a lifetime batting average of 253. I wasn't expecting much from him or Bradley.

Kc61
09-05-2020, 06:00 PM
Jose Garcia must be Ozzie Smith with the glove, because he is OPSing under .400, and has an OPS+ of 7. Yes, 7.

Garcia has brought welcome speed to a slow infield. As far as the hitting, I sense Williams/Krall/Bell just decided he plays pretty much full time.

It’s kind of an odd decision in a desperate pennant chase. But that’s the sense I get. Even if Galvis is hurt, they still have Farmer if they wanted a more experienced player.

Kc61
09-05-2020, 06:10 PM
He has a lifetime batting average of 253. I wasn't expecting much from him or Bradley.

.253 would be the second highest BA on the Reds right now, excluding Tyler Stephenson’s few at bats.

No Red is hitting above .250 other than Winker. If you want to use BA as the correct metric. Team is hitting .215, last in the NL in BA.

Tom Servo
09-05-2020, 06:11 PM
No issue with Goodwin being in the lineup but I don't get why he plays CF and Shogo is in LF, I think it should be the other way around.

goreds2
09-05-2020, 06:25 PM
Shogo has been Gold Glovin’ it in left field this year.

Kc61
09-05-2020, 06:36 PM
When I just looked and saw Reds team hitting .215, it brought home how miserable things have been.

I mean, while BA isn’t considered that important, who can win a pennant hitting .215 as a team?

KeefeCato
09-05-2020, 06:38 PM
No issue with Goodwin being in the lineup but I don't get why he plays CF and Shogo is in LF, I think it should be the other way around.

On Goodwin's first day with the Reds. I believe it was Pic who said Bell asked Goodwin where in the OF he felt most comfortable at and he said CF.
I agree with you. Looks like Bell lets some of the players pick where they wanna play not where they need to play.
Remember when Castellanos was pulled late in a game for defense? Then he threw a fit and hasn't been pulled since. Anytime in the 9th inn. that this team has a lead Nick should be planted on the bench.

malcontent
09-05-2020, 06:41 PM
This team deserves to crash and burn going with Akiyama (.200/.292/.260/.552) over Aquino.

And I know bb will back me up on that.

Kc61
09-05-2020, 06:46 PM
On Goodwin's first day with the Reds. I believe it was Pic who said Bell asked Goodwin where in the OF he felt most comfortable at and he said CF.
I agree with you. Looks like Bell lets some of the players pick where they wanna play not where they need to play.
Remember when Castellanos was pulled late in a game for defense? Then he threw a fit and hasn't been pulled since. Anytime in the 9th inn. that this team has a lead Nick should be planted on the bench.

I guess the question is who is the better CFer and who is the better LFer.

Goodwin plays shallow CF, he looks ok out there with that style.

Shogo looks smooth in CF, not sure about his range, he looks excellent in LF.

Is this really an issue, not sure it is.

Ironman92
09-05-2020, 06:52 PM
Iím not going to act like I care about the OF defense when the INF defense is bad.

I want Aquino in there until heís shown that heís more fail than not.

Put 24 year old Andruw Jones in CF if you want....our defense would still suck though

Ironman92
09-05-2020, 07:02 PM
Billy Hamilton was DFAíd....sign him up for CF every night and let him rock a .519 OPS

mth123
09-05-2020, 07:38 PM
No issue with Goodwin being in the lineup but I don't get why he plays CF and Shogo is in LF, I think it should be the other way around.

My guess is Shogo is the LF and Goodwin is only in their until Senzel returns. Probably just trying to leave Shogo alone and see if he settles in.

TheBigLebowski
09-05-2020, 07:58 PM
Gotta have this one. Come on, boys

Red Raindog
09-05-2020, 08:16 PM
Meatball to start turns into double

Sigh

Jomama
09-05-2020, 08:17 PM
.253 would be the second highest BA on the Reds right now, excluding Tyler Stephensonís few at bats.

No Red is hitting above .250 other than Winker. If you want to use BA as the correct metric. Team is hitting .215, last in the NL in BA.

Having the second highest BA on the team and not setting the world on fire are not mutually exclusive. OPS is overrated. Pete Rose had a low OPS because he was a singles hitter. Pete Rose's OPS+ is ranked 411th all time. I would argue that there is no way I can think of 410 other guys that I would like to have on my team ahead of Pete Rose.

757690
09-05-2020, 08:18 PM
I’m beginning to think that it’s not just Disco tipping his pitches.

Ron Madden
09-05-2020, 08:22 PM
No score after 1 inning

Ironman92
09-05-2020, 08:27 PM
Need a win pretty bad

Ron Madden
09-05-2020, 08:29 PM
That'll Work

Tom Servo
09-05-2020, 08:30 PM
Josh Bell isn't hitting this year but also he's real bad at fielding, so the Pirates got that going for them.

Ron Madden
09-05-2020, 08:32 PM
Goodwin swipes 2B

TheBigLebowski
09-05-2020, 08:32 PM
Nice Brian

Ron Madden
09-05-2020, 08:33 PM
Shogo walks

Tom Servo
09-05-2020, 08:35 PM
Shogo is now 5 for 18 with 4 walks to 1 strikeout and 2 stolen bases over the last week of games (including today), small sample size obviously but that's looking more like what I think we expected.

TheBigLebowski
09-05-2020, 08:35 PM
We all love Garcia, but I’d rather have Galvis getting these chances.

Tom Servo
09-05-2020, 08:36 PM
Think I'd rather have had Galvis up in that spot, but the people demanded Garcia :dunno:

TheBigLebowski
09-05-2020, 08:37 PM
He’s overmatched. I’m all for getting him ABs when we’re officially out of it, but this is a really bad time for OJT.

Ironman92
09-05-2020, 08:38 PM
Odd Garcia gets every start despite his clear struggles. Maybe a day off would do him good? Galvis went from never ever not playing the whole game to never ever playing.

Not the best handling of the situation IMO....but I wouldnít expect anything less from the smartest man in the room.

Ironman92
09-05-2020, 08:38 PM
Josh Bell isn't hitting this year but also he's real bad at fielding, so the Pirates got that going for them.

To make up for it though heís an awful base runner

Patrick Bateman
09-05-2020, 08:42 PM
Garcia is just not ready. He probably needs at least another full year in the minor leagues.

In a season where moves are being made to go for it, this decision I get the least

Iíd go straight platoon. Galvis can hit righties pretty well, and let Garcia hack it in a more favourable matchup and add defensive value. Consistently ugly at bats.


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Ron Madden
09-05-2020, 08:43 PM
Danny Graves has turned into a real good analyst.

I like him and Sam Lecure better than I do Jeff Brantley

Patrick Bateman
09-05-2020, 08:44 PM
Shogo is now 5 for 18 with 4 walks to 1 strikeout and 2 stolen bases over the last week of games (including today), small sample size obviously but that's looking more like what I think we expected.

He is looking much better. Still need to have him drive the ball sometimes if he wants to be Nori Aoki.


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NebraskaRed
09-05-2020, 08:45 PM
"I would not be having a birthday in Pittsburgh...ever"

Love it.

Kc61
09-05-2020, 08:46 PM
Garcia is just not ready. He probably needs at least another full year in the minor leagues.

In a season where moves are being made to go for it, this decision I get the least

I’d go straight platoon. Galvis can hit righties pretty well, and let Garcia hack it in a more favourable matchup and add defensive value. Consistently ugly at bats.


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I was skewered for suggesting that some AA or AAA time might be important for Garcia. Didn’t I see how he hit in spring training?

As for the Reds, I assume they felt the infield defense was killing them, which isn’t wrong.

Don’t know what’s with Galvis, I’m assuming some injury, he hasn’t been on the field for days.

Ron Madden
09-05-2020, 08:48 PM
Still no score after 2 innings

TexasRedsFan
09-05-2020, 08:50 PM
Every time a throw goes from Moose to Joey, I'm holding my breath.

Disco at least so far is 9 runs better than last time facing Bucs.

Ron Madden
09-05-2020, 08:51 PM
Barnhart!!!

Patrick Bateman
09-05-2020, 08:51 PM
I was skewered for suggesting that some AA or AAA time might be important for Garcia. Didnít I see how he hit in spring training?

As for the Reds, I assume they felt the infield defense was killing them, which isnít wrong.

Donít know whatís with Galvis, Iím assuming some injury, he hasnít been on the field for days.

That could be true.

I agree that people got a little excited about his spring training production. Small sample, watered down competition... like itís still a guy that had very good league adjusted stats in high A.

Heís not even close to ready with the bat. Galvis has struggled for sure, and if itís injury related everything makes a tad more sense.


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NebraskaRed
09-05-2020, 08:52 PM
Tucker!

Kc61
09-05-2020, 08:52 PM
Home Run Barnhart.

TexasRedsFan
09-05-2020, 08:52 PM
Tucker goes yard. 1-0 Reds.

Ironman92
09-05-2020, 08:52 PM
I donít believe what I just saw! (Jack Buck voice)

podgejeff_
09-05-2020, 08:52 PM
Tucker squared that up perfectly.

NebraskaRed
09-05-2020, 08:53 PM
Sam LeCure is getting better but he still seems nervous. He sounds like he has something he wants to say, but he seems hesitant. Overall, I like him in the booth.

Kc61
09-05-2020, 08:53 PM
I have been impressed with Garcia defensively. Maybe I’m just stunned to see a Reds player move that fast. He’s been pretty clean, surely has the range. With Suarez, Moose, and Votto in the infield, the extra speed is very noticeable.

Patrick Bateman
09-05-2020, 08:53 PM
Would have been more useful to us YESTERDAY

(Wedding singer reference)


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Ironman92
09-05-2020, 08:55 PM
Sam LeCure is getting better but he still seems nervous. He sounds like he has something he wants to say, but he seems hesitant. Overall, I like him in the booth.

My thoughts on him are straight up in the air

NebraskaRed
09-05-2020, 08:55 PM
Nice one by Votto.

Ron Madden
09-05-2020, 08:55 PM
Joey lines a double down the RF line!

Ironman92
09-05-2020, 08:55 PM
Early season pulling Votto

Kc61
09-05-2020, 08:56 PM
Let’s get Votto home from second.

Ironman92
09-05-2020, 08:56 PM
Steal 3rd Joseph!

NebraskaRed
09-05-2020, 08:57 PM
Let's see Votto running hard. We deserve it to see it after last night.

TexasRedsFan
09-05-2020, 08:57 PM
Cast reminds me of George Foster at the plate. Very similar stance and both always used a black bat.

Kc61
09-05-2020, 08:58 PM
Cast reminds me of George Foster at the plate. Very similar stance and both always used a black bat.

Good call. Both wave(d) the bat around while waiting for the pitch.

Ironman92
09-05-2020, 08:59 PM
Way better than a strikeout

mhs95_06
09-05-2020, 08:59 PM
Votto avg. 0.500 on 1st pitch swings tonight.

NebraskaRed
09-05-2020, 09:00 PM
Get him home, Wink

Ironman92
09-05-2020, 09:00 PM
Winker needs to not swing to his knee...get your boy in

TexasRedsFan
09-05-2020, 09:00 PM
Cast hustling at least while making an out. Sac fly chance for Wink.

Ironman92
09-05-2020, 09:00 PM
92 down the middle and nothing

50YrRedsFan
09-05-2020, 09:00 PM
Cast gets Votto to 3rd, but it was a poor ab. Swinging out of the zone.

NebraskaRed
09-05-2020, 09:00 PM
Gonna need to hit it deep to get Votto home.

mhs95_06
09-05-2020, 09:02 PM
Winker needs to not swing to his knee...get your boy in

My thought exactly with runner on 3rd and one out. I went to post and you already had!

Kc61
09-05-2020, 09:02 PM
Elevate the ball Geno, we don’t need no DP here.

Such as that.

Ironman92
09-05-2020, 09:02 PM
Suarez....go oppo please

Ironman92
09-05-2020, 09:03 PM
Pull will be a DP

TheBigLebowski
09-05-2020, 09:03 PM
These situations always stymie the Recs

GENO

Coopdaddy67
09-05-2020, 09:03 PM
Suarez....go oppo please

No.

mth123
09-05-2020, 09:03 PM
3 Run HR. Suarez.

Tom Servo
09-05-2020, 09:03 PM
Geno!! :jump:

The rare 3 run HR for this offense

Ron Madden
09-05-2020, 09:03 PM
3 run HR Geno!!!

NebraskaRed
09-05-2020, 09:03 PM
Yeaaaaahhh

podgejeff_
09-05-2020, 09:04 PM
Thanks for walking Winker, Pirates!

Ironman92
09-05-2020, 09:04 PM
I donít care to be wrong when it benefits the Reds

bing
09-05-2020, 09:04 PM
I still want to release Barnhart even if he homers every so often.

TexasRedsFan
09-05-2020, 09:04 PM
I think that one's deep enough! 4-0 Reds. Maybe tonight's the night Geno gets above the Mendoza line.

50YrRedsFan
09-05-2020, 09:04 PM
Suarez....go oppo please

He pulled it.;)

Patrick Bateman
09-05-2020, 09:05 PM
Sweeeet baaaaaby raaaays


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Kingspoint
09-05-2020, 09:05 PM
Booyah!

Ironman92
09-05-2020, 09:06 PM
He pulled it.;)

He did and got it elevated. He got it done!

Wanted to avoid the GIDP and also figured heíd get the outside pitch he often does to do it

Ron Madden
09-05-2020, 09:06 PM
Goodwin base hit!

mhs95_06
09-05-2020, 09:07 PM
Only Molina could have taken that pitch to RF. Geno hit the tailing down and in pitch that was right on the low inside corner like a lefty hitter.

Ironman92
09-05-2020, 09:07 PM
Steal

Big Klu
09-05-2020, 09:07 PM
Congratulations to Eugenio Suarez, who has passed Reds Hall-of-Famers Joe Morgan and Pete Rose for 16th place on the Reds all-time home run list.

Updated Reds HR list (players in italics are active):

Reds 100-Home Run Club
1. Johnny Bench - 389
2. Frank Robinson - 324
3. Joey Votto - 290
4. Tony Perez - 287
5. Adam Dunn - 270
6. Ted Kluszewski - 251
7. George Foster - 244
8. Jay Bruce - 233
9. Ken Griffey, Jr. - 210
10. Eric Davis - 203
11. Barry Larkin - 198
12. Brandon Phillips - 191
13. Vada Pinson - 186
14. Wally Post - 172
15. Gus Bell - 160
16. Eugenio Suarez - 153
17. Joe Morgan - 152
17. Pete Rose - 152
19. Lee May - 147
20. Dan Driessen - 133
21. Reggie Sanders - 125
22. Ernie Lombardi - 120
23. Sean Casey - 118
24. Frank McCormick - 110
25. Todd Frazier - 108
26. Dave Parker - 107
27. Chris Sabo - 104
28. Dave Concepcion - 101

podgejeff_
09-05-2020, 09:07 PM
Goodwin hitting good in search of the win.

Ron Madden
09-05-2020, 09:08 PM
2nd stolen base by Goodwin!

50YrRedsFan
09-05-2020, 09:08 PM
Steal

very close

TheBigLebowski
09-05-2020, 09:08 PM
I like the acquisition of Goodwin. Good guy to have on a roster.

Stole a 2nd base

mth123
09-05-2020, 09:08 PM
Goodwin base hit!

That Swing by Goodwin reminded me of Ken Griffey SR. Very similar IMO.

TexasRedsFan
09-05-2020, 09:08 PM
2 steals for Goodwin. Last Red to do that in one game I assume was Billy.

Ironman92
09-05-2020, 09:09 PM
Nice call by ump

podgejeff_
09-05-2020, 09:09 PM
Trevor Williams is not having a good time.

Ron Madden
09-05-2020, 09:09 PM
Goodwin picked off

Tom Servo
09-05-2020, 09:10 PM
I’m in favor of adding some running but a bit too cute there.

Coopdaddy67
09-05-2020, 09:10 PM
Dirt is a little too wet.

TheBigLebowski
09-05-2020, 09:10 PM
And TOOTBLAN

This guy is a natural Red.

Ironman92
09-05-2020, 09:11 PM
When in Rome...run bases like the Romans

mhs95_06
09-05-2020, 09:11 PM
Now we see why some players wear mitts on both hands!

Ironman92
09-05-2020, 09:11 PM
Iím in favor of adding some running but a bit too cute there.

Not sure where he was going

Stray
09-05-2020, 09:11 PM
Good to see Votto and Suarez outta their funks.

NCReds
09-05-2020, 09:15 PM
Havenít been very active in the thread lately so Iím sure yíall have talked about this, but where is Welsh??

TheBigLebowski
09-05-2020, 09:16 PM
Oh boy. T-Bone lit the hibachi.

Coopdaddy67
09-05-2020, 09:16 PM
Haven’t been very active in the thread lately so I’m sure y’all have talked about this, but where is Welsh??

Assume he's just taking this series off.

mhs95_06
09-05-2020, 09:17 PM
Castellanos with a mental error rather than his usual physical error.

Red Raindog
09-05-2020, 09:17 PM
Castellanos with a mental error rather than his usual physical error.

Need a kangaroo court.....


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mth123
09-05-2020, 09:18 PM
Castellanos with a mental error rather than his usual physical error.

Agreed, but Suarez looked like he made a half-hearted effort on a catchable throw. It went off his glove.

Kc61
09-05-2020, 09:18 PM
Kudos to Brantley and Lecure discussing Reds’ lack of sound fundamentals this year.

Too many mistakes giving teams extra outs and extra bases, just as they are saying.

Happens way too often on defense and sometimes on offense by not hitting the fly ball or hitting into a key DP.

50YrRedsFan
09-05-2020, 09:18 PM
And we think the Reds have offensive problems, the Angels have only 2 players in their starting lineup tonight hitting above .200. Trout and Simmons.

Shatz1988
09-05-2020, 09:19 PM
This team makes a lot of stupid mental mistakes to go along with physical mistakes.

mth123
09-05-2020, 09:19 PM
Need a kangaroo court.....


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I don't think there is anyone on the roster fundamentally sound enough to be the judge. To fine somebody for a stupid play, you have to be smart enough to know its a stupid play.

TexasRedsFan
09-05-2020, 09:20 PM
4-0 doesn't feel like much of a lead with the potential this defense has of giving them back.

NCReds
09-05-2020, 09:21 PM
Assume he's just taking this series off.

He was off the series before this as well right?

mhs95_06
09-05-2020, 09:21 PM
What would have happened on that tapper if the runner had been on first like he should have? Would Disco have thrown it to 2nd, or the runner tried to score, or would be the same with runners on 2nd and 3rd with 1 out?

mth123
09-05-2020, 09:22 PM
What would have happened on that tapper if the runner had been on first like he should have? Would Disco have thrown it to 2nd, or the runner tried to score, or would be the same with runners on 2nd and 3rd with 1 out?

He'd have probably thrown in into CF.

Kc61
09-05-2020, 09:23 PM
What would have happened on that tapper if the runner had been on first like he should have? Would Disco have thrown it to 2nd, or the runner tried to score, or would be the same with runners on 2nd and 3rd with 1 out?

Too slow for a DP, so probably same play. Hold the runner at third and throw to first.

Tom Servo
09-05-2020, 09:24 PM
4-0 doesn't feel like much of a lead with the potential this defense has of giving them back.
Or Disco facing left handers

mhs95_06
09-05-2020, 09:24 PM
Agreed, but Suarez looked like he made a half-hearted effort on a catchable throw. It went off his glove.

Right, but the runner already had 2nd.

Ron Madden
09-05-2020, 09:24 PM
Nice running catch!

Kc61
09-05-2020, 09:25 PM
That’s why Goodwin is playing CF instead of LF.

Excellent catch.

TexasRedsFan
09-05-2020, 09:25 PM
Great catch. Saved at least one run.

mhs95_06
09-05-2020, 09:25 PM
Goodwin saved at least a run and and out there.

TexasRedsFan
09-05-2020, 09:26 PM
Disco not very pitch efficient thus far. May be an early bullpen night.

RedlegsFanatic
09-05-2020, 09:26 PM
Dang that was a nice catch by Goodwin. No other active Reds outfielder catches that ball. He just saved Disco 2 runs and a runner at 3rd with 1 out

mth123
09-05-2020, 09:27 PM
Big play there.

RedlegsFanatic
09-05-2020, 09:27 PM
At a boy ayohanio

Ron Madden
09-05-2020, 09:27 PM
Nice play!

Kc61
09-05-2020, 09:27 PM
Not sure Iíve seen better defense by the Reds this season. Two real nice plays. And with men on base.

TexasRedsFan
09-05-2020, 09:28 PM
Joey gets a stretch right to get Reds out of trouble. 4-1 after 3.

50YrRedsFan
09-05-2020, 09:28 PM
DeSclafani saved by Goodwin, Suarez, and Votto.

RedlegsFanatic
09-05-2020, 09:28 PM
It’s going to take a stretch of winning 8 of 10 or even 15 of 20 for the Reds to actually get into the 2020 Playoffs.

mth123
09-05-2020, 09:30 PM
Joey gets a stretch right to get Reds out of trouble. 4-1 after 3.

He can't stretch too soon when the fielder is on the run. It's when they are set and he knows where the throw is supposed to be coming from that he stretches toward the fielder before the ball is released. Since those were on the run, he stretched toward the ball.

Kc61
09-05-2020, 09:31 PM
It’s going to take a stretch of winning 8 of 10 or even 15 of 20 for the Reds to actually get into the 2020 Playoffs.

13-8 gets them to .500.

TexasRedsFan
09-05-2020, 09:32 PM
Goodwin looking more like a smart pickup every day.

Shogo appears to be pressing at the plate. Maybe should take more pitches.

RedlegsFanatic
09-05-2020, 09:32 PM
I been working a lot lately, is Galvis hurt?

RedlegsFanatic
09-05-2020, 09:33 PM
Tucker showing more pop this season than he has entire career

Kc61
09-05-2020, 09:33 PM
I been working a lot lately, is Galvis hurt?

Don’t know, but he hasn’t played at all lately. No report on an injury as far as I know.

TexasRedsFan
09-05-2020, 09:36 PM
Tucker showing more pop this season than he has entire career

Not really. He's always had little power streaks every season. Usually 5-10 hr's in a full year.

Kc61
09-05-2020, 09:36 PM
He can't stretch too soon when the fielder is on the run. It's when they are set and he knows where the throw is supposed to be coming from that he stretches toward the fielder before the ball is released. Since those were on the run, he stretched toward the ball.

Not wrong for first baseman to try and give the fielder a target. But need the flexibility to change position.

TexasRedsFan
09-05-2020, 09:39 PM
Another nice Suarez play!

Ron Madden
09-05-2020, 09:39 PM
I been working a lot lately, is Galvis hurt?

Freddy hasn't started since Monday vs the Cardinals

50YrRedsFan
09-05-2020, 09:40 PM
Mike Trout just hit his 300th home run. I wonder if the Angels will waste Trout's career with no World Series llike the Reds have wasted Votto's.

mhs95_06
09-05-2020, 09:42 PM
At least Disco didn't give up that honer last inning!

TexasRedsFan
09-05-2020, 09:44 PM
Freddy hasn't started since Monday vs the Cardinals

I wonder if they tried to move him at the deadline. Should have if they planned to just bench him for Garcia.

Ron Madden
09-05-2020, 09:44 PM
Reds 4
Pirates 2
End of the 4th

Ron Madden
09-05-2020, 09:48 PM
I wonder if they tried to move him at the deadline. Should have if they planned to just bench him for Garcia.

I don't know.

Reds were off Thursday so counting the DH yesterday tonight makes 5 games in a row he hasn't started.

I guess I'm in the minority here, I don't mind Garcia playing everyday

NCReds
09-05-2020, 09:55 PM
Winker is one emotional fellow... rather that than care-free I guess

TexasRedsFan
09-05-2020, 09:56 PM
I don't know.

Reds were off Thursday so counting the DH yesterday tonight makes 5 games in a row he hasn't started.

I guess I'm in the minority here, I don't mind Garcia playing everyday

You can definitely see that Garcia has potential. I would've preferred to see Galvis hitting in some of the late game ab's lately though, like game 2 last night.

I'm thinking he must be hurt to not even get a ph in the dh.

Tom Servo
09-05-2020, 09:57 PM
Feels like I’ve seen this game before, Reds offense goes into hibernation and their inferior opponent slowly crawls back into it

Kc61
09-05-2020, 09:58 PM
I don't know.

Reds were off Thursday so counting the DH yesterday tonight makes 5 games in a row he hasn't started.

I guess I'm in the minority here, I don't mind Garcia playing everyday

Garcia’s hitting .172. I guess you’re ok with that. I’d like to see his average a tad higher.

Hopeful.

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Feels like I’ve seen this game before, Reds offense goes into hibernation and their inferior opponent slowly crawls back into it


You’ve seen it maybe 30-40 times a year since 2015.

TexasRedsFan
09-05-2020, 09:59 PM
Feels like I’ve seen this game before, Reds offense goes into hibernation and their inferior opponent slowly crawls back into it

Yep. Again tonight, all runs scoring via HR's.

And we're already into the bullpen. Disco only goes 4.

Ron Madden
09-05-2020, 10:05 PM
Nice 6-5-3 DP!

Ron Madden
09-05-2020, 10:07 PM
Good Job Mike!

TexasRedsFan
09-05-2020, 10:08 PM
Reds get a break with Polanco swinging at ball 4. Still 4-2 after 5.

Ironman92
09-05-2020, 10:08 PM
Nice inning Lorenzen

Need to add on....need 6 to win

mth123
09-05-2020, 10:09 PM
Nice inning Lorenzen

Need to add on....need 6 to win

6 or 6 more?

mth123
09-05-2020, 10:11 PM
Eugenio back to normal

Ron Madden
09-05-2020, 10:11 PM
The Great BamGeno!!!

Ironman92
09-05-2020, 10:11 PM
As I was saying....

TheBigLebowski
09-05-2020, 10:11 PM
YEAH!!!

TexasRedsFan
09-05-2020, 10:12 PM
Geno goes oppo! Starting to look like the hitter we expected this year.

Ironman92
09-05-2020, 10:12 PM
He went 75 AB without swinging like that

Welcome back

TexasRedsFan
09-05-2020, 10:14 PM
Moose on the other hand still can't get it going.

Big Klu
09-05-2020, 10:15 PM
Updated Reds HR list (players in italics are active):

Reds 100-Home Run Club
1. Johnny Bench - 389
2. Frank Robinson - 324
3. Joey Votto - 290
4. Tony Perez - 287
5. Adam Dunn - 270
6. Ted Kluszewski - 251
7. George Foster - 244
8. Jay Bruce - 233
9. Ken Griffey, Jr. - 210
10. Eric Davis - 203
11. Barry Larkin - 198
12. Brandon Phillips - 191
13. Vada Pinson - 186
14. Wally Post - 172
15. Gus Bell - 160
16. Eugenio Suarez - 154
17. Joe Morgan - 152
17. Pete Rose - 152
19. Lee May - 147
20. Dan Driessen - 133
21. Reggie Sanders - 125
22. Ernie Lombardi - 120
23. Sean Casey - 118
24. Frank McCormick - 110
25. Todd Frazier - 108
26. Dave Parker - 107
27. Chris Sabo - 104
28. Dave Concepcion - 101

Ron Madden
09-05-2020, 10:16 PM
Shogo walks again!

mth123
09-05-2020, 10:17 PM
Updated Reds HR list (players in italics are active):

Reds 100-Home Run Club
1. Johnny Bench - 389
2. Frank Robinson - 324
3. Joey Votto - 290
4. Tony Perez - 287
5. Adam Dunn - 270
6. Ted Kluszewski - 251
7. George Foster - 244
8. Jay Bruce - 233
9. Ken Griffey, Jr. - 210
10. Eric Davis - 203
11. Barry Larkin - 198
12. Brandon Phillips - 191
13. Vada Pinson - 186
14. Wally Post - 172
15. Gus Bell - 160
16. Eugenio Suarez - 154
17. Joe Morgan - 152
17. Pete Rose - 152
19. Lee May - 147
20. Dan Driessen - 133
21. Reggie Sanders - 125
22. Ernie Lombardi - 120
23. Sean Casey - 118
24. Frank McCormick - 110
25. Todd Frazier - 108
26. Dave Parker - 107
27. Chris Sabo - 104
28. Dave Concepcion - 101

Wonder if Suarez will get benched so he won't pass Grandpa.;)

mhs95_06
09-05-2020, 10:17 PM
Shogo walks again!

Ump missed calling strike 3.

mhs95_06
09-05-2020, 10:20 PM
Stolen base trumps passed ball on the scoring decision!

TexasRedsFan
09-05-2020, 10:25 PM
Uh oh. Walks seem to especially haunt Mike Lorenzen.

Ironman92
09-05-2020, 10:27 PM
Awful pitch in the dead center of the plate

TexasRedsFan
09-05-2020, 10:29 PM
Lorenzen lucky this game isn't tied

mhs95_06
09-05-2020, 10:30 PM
Lorenzen no where near Tom Seaver in his prime on accuracy. Seaver said he could pitch it within one inch of his target 95% of the time!

Red Raindog
09-05-2020, 10:32 PM
Lorenzen exits




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TheBigLebowski
09-05-2020, 10:33 PM
Lorenzen is a gas can

TexasRedsFan
09-05-2020, 10:33 PM
Garrett on with bases loaded. Be ready for wp, Tucker.

Ironman92
09-05-2020, 10:34 PM
I feel a HBP or wild pitch

Ron Madden
09-05-2020, 10:36 PM
Good Job Amir!

TheBigLebowski
09-05-2020, 10:36 PM
Count on ag

Red Raindog
09-05-2020, 10:36 PM
Thanks Garrett


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Ironman92
09-05-2020, 10:37 PM
Quick refocus by Amir...whew

Ron Madden
09-05-2020, 10:37 PM
Reds 5
Pirates 2
after 6 innings

TexasRedsFan
09-05-2020, 10:38 PM
Always an adventure, but he comes through as usual. 5-2 to the 7th.

Redsfan6272
09-05-2020, 10:49 PM
Perfeect spot to hit for Barnhart and Bell refuses to do it

Boston Red
09-05-2020, 10:54 PM
Am I the only one who, after watching the 7 inning doubleheaders, feels like these 9 inning games just last forever?

Ron Madden
09-05-2020, 10:55 PM
Amir sits'em down in order

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Reds lead 5-2 after 7 innings

TheBigLebowski
09-05-2020, 10:57 PM
Did Polanco say something to Amir? He might have taken the “feed me” gesture as an insult

Ron Madden
09-05-2020, 11:00 PM
I thought Geno had another one

TheBigLebowski
09-05-2020, 11:01 PM
I thought Geno had another one

Was just about to say that. I thought that ball stayed fair

mth123
09-05-2020, 11:01 PM
Suarez getting well.

Ron Madden
09-05-2020, 11:01 PM
3 Bombs tonight for Geno!!!

TheBigLebowski
09-05-2020, 11:01 PM
T.ha t o n e d i d

Red Raindog
09-05-2020, 11:01 PM
I thought Geno had another one

He did


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Ironman92
09-05-2020, 11:01 PM
Hit the ball hard where it is pitched...our star is back

Stray
09-05-2020, 11:02 PM
Geno!

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TheBigLebowski
09-05-2020, 11:02 PM
It has been a sojourn, but I think we can call him “back.”

Big Klu
09-05-2020, 11:03 PM
Updated Reds HR list (players in italics are active):

Reds 100-Home Run Club
1. Johnny Bench - 389
2. Frank Robinson - 324
3. Joey Votto - 290
4. Tony Perez - 287
5. Adam Dunn - 270
6. Ted Kluszewski - 251
7. George Foster - 244
8. Jay Bruce - 233
9. Ken Griffey, Jr. - 210
10. Eric Davis - 203
11. Barry Larkin - 198
12. Brandon Phillips - 191
13. Vada Pinson - 186
14. Wally Post - 172
15. Gus Bell - 160
16. Eugenio Suarez - 155
17. Joe Morgan - 152
17. Pete Rose - 152
19. Lee May - 147
20. Dan Driessen - 133
21. Reggie Sanders - 125
22. Ernie Lombardi - 120
23. Sean Casey - 118
24. Frank McCormick - 110
25. Todd Frazier - 108
26. Dave Parker - 107
27. Chris Sabo - 104
28. Dave Concepcion - 101

Ron Madden
09-05-2020, 11:04 PM
I love Geno

Patrick Bateman
09-05-2020, 11:05 PM
Suarez, votto and shogo not being plugs offensively certainly improves the forecast from here.


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Redsfan6272
09-05-2020, 11:06 PM
When Geno hits the other way with power look out!!. Glad he is doing that now, earlier he was trying to pull everything. Must be the new dyed hair yesssss

Red Raindog
09-05-2020, 11:08 PM
I did not realize that Bell is as good ad Willie Mccovey


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mhs95_06
09-05-2020, 11:11 PM
Farmer in for def replacement. Something must be wrong with Galvis.

TheBigLebowski
09-05-2020, 11:13 PM
Sims kinda looks like Trevor Bauer-lite

Ron Madden
09-05-2020, 11:13 PM
Reds 6
Pirates 2
Going into the 9th

Alabama Red
09-05-2020, 11:20 PM
Farmer in for def replacement. Something must be wrong with Galvis.
Unless he’s hurt there is no reason that he shouldn’t be playing instead of Garcia.

HammerTime
09-05-2020, 11:20 PM
Garcia is painfully overmatched and by no means should he earn the benefit of the doubt over Galvis.

TheBigLebowski
09-05-2020, 11:22 PM
Garcia is painfully overmatched and by no means should he earn the benefit of the doubt over Galvis.

We’ve decided Galvis must be hurt.

Ron Madden
09-05-2020, 11:23 PM
BABIP strikes again

757690
09-05-2020, 11:23 PM
We’ve decided Galvis must be hurt.

He’s in a sweatshirt in the dugout, so I think that is a safe conclusion.

HammerTime
09-05-2020, 11:24 PM
Another hit gone due to the deep shift.

WVRedsFan
09-05-2020, 11:25 PM
Why do I think 4 runs aren't enough of a lead?

Alabama Red
09-05-2020, 11:25 PM
Garcia is painfully overmatched and by no means should he earn the benefit of the doubt over Galvis.
I just don’t se the point in bringing up Garcia at all. Galvis was batting 7-8 and was doing what was signed to do. He showed up ready to play this year. Even if Garcia was a little better it wouldn’t matter. The 8 spot isn’t the reason we’re 5 games under 500. Just from a baseball organization strategy it made no sense.

HammerTime
09-05-2020, 11:26 PM
I just don’t se the point in bringing up Garcia at all. Galvis was batting 7-8 and was doing what was signed to do. He showed up ready to play this year. Even if Garcia was a little better it wouldn’t matter. The 8 spot won’t the reason we’re 5 games under 500. Just from a baseball organization strategy it made no sense.

Agreed. Very very best case he would be marginally better.

Ron Madden
09-05-2020, 11:27 PM
Two More Outs

WVRedsFan
09-05-2020, 11:29 PM
Bad throw

Red Raindog
09-05-2020, 11:31 PM
This defense

Sigh


Update

That helps


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Boston Red
09-05-2020, 11:31 PM
We are...not good.

757690
09-05-2020, 11:31 PM
Farmer is showing that he is at best a backup utility infielder.

WVRedsFan
09-05-2020, 11:32 PM
Good grief. Farmer and Garcia with bad throws

HammerTime
09-05-2020, 11:32 PM
Bad throw

Repeat.

WVRedsFan
09-05-2020, 11:32 PM
Reds Win!!!!!

Ron Madden
09-05-2020, 11:32 PM
4-6-3 DP! Reds win!!!

757690
09-05-2020, 11:32 PM
The Reds have a chance of winning three out of four against the Pirates. But if they play this way against the Cubs and Cards they will get destroyed.

Alabama Red
09-05-2020, 11:33 PM
I hate to get my hopes up again but if ES keeps hitting and a couple other guys step up we might could finish in second.

Coopdaddy67
09-05-2020, 11:34 PM
Aside from the defense just not being talented, the other issue is guys are playing out of position and haven't worked with each other.

If Suarez starts hitting 3 HRs every night, it'll be less of a problem.

Alabama Red
09-05-2020, 11:35 PM
Well, just looked at the box score and we only had 6 hits.

mhs95_06
09-05-2020, 11:35 PM
Reds infielders not comfortable with each other. DP grounder to Garcia and he throws it right over the top of 2nd leading farmer thinking he's going across the bag, but Farmer is planning to step back from the bag toward RF to make the throw to 1B, and never gets to it and it goes for no outs.

Ron Madden
09-05-2020, 11:36 PM
Box Score

https://www.mlb.com/gameday/reds-vs-pirates/2020/09/05/631115#game_state=final,lock_state=final,game_tab= box,game=631115

WVRedsFan
09-05-2020, 11:37 PM
Who knows who is pitching tomorrow? Kuhl with good stats going for the Bucs. The reds got only 6 hits tonight and a repeat of that might not be so good. Fingers crossed.

Umkubas
09-05-2020, 11:38 PM
Winner Winner Chicken Dinner

Ron Madden
09-05-2020, 11:40 PM
Let's enjoy the Win and get'em again tomorrow

UPRedsFan
09-05-2020, 11:41 PM
Bad throw

Yes Farmer made a bad throw, but Votto whiffed again. It hit him in the foot.

What is a worse defense, Votto at 1b and Winker DH? Or Winker in left field and Votto DH?

TexasRedsFan
09-05-2020, 11:42 PM
Well, just looked at the box score and we only had 6 hits.

Reds seem to routinely get out-hit, but gotta take the W's however you can get em.

HammerTime
09-05-2020, 11:43 PM
They really need Senzel back and healthy. Hopefully that’s this week.

Coopdaddy67
09-05-2020, 11:47 PM
Yes Farmer made a bad throw, but Votto whiffed again. It hit him in the foot.

What is a worse defense, Votto at 1b and Winker DH? Or Winker in left field and Votto DH?

It was a bad throw and it threatened to put him in the path of the runner.

Winker in LF is more of an issue when you factor in Castellanos in RF.

The Reds are a bad defensive team that lacks range across the board. Rearranging the pieces isn't going to fix it.

Coopdaddy67
09-05-2020, 11:51 PM
They really need Senzel back and healthy. Hopefully that’s this week.

It'll allow Castellanos/Winker to spend a lot more time DHing.

Goodwin/Shogo and Senzel covering two-thirds of the OF would be a significant improvement.

Ron Madden
09-06-2020, 12:02 AM
Bobby Nightengale
@nightengalejr
Tejay Antone will be the #Reds starter tomorrow

NebraskaRed
09-06-2020, 12:06 AM
https://twitter.com/Reds/status/1302441984448237568?s=20'

We should just post this over and over when the game threads get too negative.

mhs95_06
09-06-2020, 02:18 AM
Box Score

https://www.mlb.com/gameday/reds-vs-pirates/2020/09/05/631115#game_state=final,lock_state=final,game_tab= box,game=631115

Garrett gets his first win of the season. And no one gets a hold?