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RedlegsFanatic
09-11-2020, 12:08 AM
16515

REDREAD
09-11-2020, 12:08 AM
Bell leaves Lorenzen in and he gives up one more run. My eyes and not any stupid data said pull him bring in Thornburg. Nope a must win game. Bell doesnt manage like every game is myst win

Reds would have needed to go on a 6 game winning streak or something like that to have a hope of getting back into the race. Sadly, the season was over about a week ago, the last series vs the Cardinals.
The Cardinals were winning big, so we are likely (barring a miracle) going to fall another game behind.

Ron Madden
09-11-2020, 12:08 AM
Plenty of time for the Reds to come back in this game

Tom Servo
09-11-2020, 12:09 AM
If you still have positive expectations after Sunday I don't know what to tell ya, that was it for me. I'm still gonna keep up with them but I'm not expecting anything particularly good to happen.

They had their chance to get back into this one last inning and Suarez once again whiffed on it.

Ron Madden
09-11-2020, 12:11 AM
Reds would have needed to go on a 6 game winning streak or something like that to have a hope of getting back into the race. Sadly, the season was over about a week ago, the last series vs the Cardinals.
The Cardinals were winning big, so we are likely (barring a miracle) going to fall another game behind.

Cardinals split a DH with Detroit today

RedlegsFanatic
09-11-2020, 12:11 AM
Bell usually makes such excellent decisions but I don't get taking Gray out and bringing Lorenzen in. I think he should have let Gray work out of the situation.

Excellent decisions?
lmao I guess we need a good laugh after watching this team play.

Boston Red
09-11-2020, 12:12 AM
Suarez turning into Chris Davis was not what I was looking for this year.

mhs95_06
09-11-2020, 12:13 AM
Did Moose get hurt on the HBP, or his awkward double bounce throw that was late to Votto that scored 2 runes to give the Cubs the lead? Didn't the Reds have another 2nd baseman get hurt when he slipped on a throw a couple years ago that was out for months?

Tom Servo
09-11-2020, 12:15 AM
Suarez turning into Chris Davis was not what I was looking for this year.
I have to think something is going on with him that we don't know about.

Redsfan6272
09-11-2020, 12:15 AM
Did Moose get hurt on the HBP, or his awkward double bounce throw that was late to Votto that scored 2 runes to give the Cubs the lead? Didn't the Reds have another 2nd baseman get hurt when he slipped on a throw a couple years ago that was out for months?

That was Garcia in the shift who bounced it to Votto

Boston Red
09-11-2020, 12:19 AM
I have to think something is going on with him that we don't know about.

I sure hope so. And I hope it gets worked out before next April.

Redsfan6272
09-11-2020, 12:24 AM
Sigh this team just cant hit in the clutch.

Tom Servo
09-11-2020, 12:24 AM
Well that really fizzled out.

Ironman92
09-11-2020, 12:24 AM
Quit effing striking out when it matters! Terrible fielding conditions but we are swinging for those honeruns that are just flying out like crazy this series.

Adul approaches with runners on

Alabama Red
09-11-2020, 12:24 AM
Way to put the ball in play with men on base.

Ron Madden
09-11-2020, 12:25 AM
Bobby Nightengale
@nightengalejr
#Reds say Mike Moustakas left tonight's game with a left foot contusion.

Alabama Red
09-11-2020, 12:25 AM
Sigh this team just cant hit in the clutch.
You could have left off “in the clutch”.

fondfoat
09-11-2020, 12:28 AM
Well, Reds need an organizational shift. i don't know if it can be done by next season, but they really need to move towards a balanced offence. Focus on getting guys who can get on base, are above average with the glove, plus one or two big hitters. Not seven guys swinging for the fences. I'm a positive guy, but this is draining!!

Ironman92
09-11-2020, 12:29 AM
In this hideous game of suck and misfortune....I think this is Vottos best defensive game of the season.

RedTeamGo!
09-11-2020, 12:30 AM
Quit effing striking out when it matters! Terrible fielding conditions but we are swinging for those honeruns that are just flying out like crazy this series.

Adul approaches with runners on

It’s because the son of an owner read about Sabrmetrics and said “I can totally assemble a team this way and win!”

Nah

Ironman92
09-11-2020, 12:30 AM
Id bat Baez first...I bet hes change his ways and pepper the ball oppo and get going....but hes their Suarez

REDREAD
09-11-2020, 12:30 AM
Cardinals split a DH with Detroit today

Ok, thanks for the correction, but still think the Reds' season is already dead.

Redsfan6272
09-11-2020, 12:30 AM
Sadly we will hear from Mr Williams its just been bad luck since 2013. Mr Bell has done a wonderful job and he will stay around. Sigh.. i want heads to roll upstairs. Not accepting this garbage year in and year out!!

davereds24
09-11-2020, 12:31 AM
Not that there are much better options, but Bell probably just watched the last chance to save the season go down the drain with Goodwin and Garcia hitting. How did 2020 come to this?

REDREAD
09-11-2020, 12:31 AM
Suarez turning into Chris Davis was not what I was looking for this year.

Earlier this season, they were speculating that his shoulder problem over the winter would impact him all year.
Sorry, I don't remember the details, but they were guessing he would be ok in 2021.

Umkubas
09-11-2020, 12:31 AM
Suarez turning into Chris Davis was not what I was looking for this year.


Sad but true for most of 2020 season except two weeks ago for one week

Ron Madden
09-11-2020, 12:34 AM
WOW!

REDREAD
09-11-2020, 12:34 AM
Maybe getting Goodwin wasn't such a good idea afterall..

Boston Red
09-11-2020, 12:34 AM
What?

mhs95_06
09-11-2020, 12:35 AM
Doesn't look like the Red's bullpen is going to have to worry about pitching past the 8th inning!

Ironman92
09-11-2020, 12:35 AM
Awful awful awful

Ironman92
09-11-2020, 12:35 AM
Just hit a 3 run HR Heyward

Boston Red
09-11-2020, 12:36 AM
At least the Cubs bench's first reaction wasn't to laugh. That would have been my reaction if the shoe was on the other foot.

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Does a decent high school team drop this many fly balls in a season?

Ironman92
09-11-2020, 12:37 AM
How many balls this series have beat the Reds OF for hits???? The wind is blowing in FFS adjust and act like a damn MLB player.

Kyle Farmer catches that ball.

RedlegsFanatic
09-11-2020, 12:37 AM
Goodwin was such a smart/good pickup.
He just absolutely rakes at the plate, and not to mention that gold glove defense.
Meanwhile... keep on sitting Aquino that way he can never get in a groove playing everyday.
Im thinking Aquino could break 100 year old home run records if he ever got the chance to play everyday. Oh wait a minute, that already happened. My bad. U gotta love this Reds management. Are they playing for draft picks at this point? Or just hate their jobs?

Ironman92
09-11-2020, 12:39 AM
At least the Cubs bench's first reaction wasn't to laugh. That would have been my reaction if the shoe was on the other foot.

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Does a decent high school team drop this many fly balls in a season?

I still refuse to even consider defense with the Reds lineup....just bat the hit hitters (guyz hitting over .180) and the heck with defense because they are terrible.

Boston Red
09-11-2020, 12:39 AM
Thornburg is hurt, too? What a night!

mhs95_06
09-11-2020, 12:43 AM
Looks like Thornburg's career may be over!

Boston Red
09-11-2020, 12:44 AM
I blame that confusion on Stephenson.

50YrRedsFan
09-11-2020, 12:44 AM
What a circus

Ironman92
09-11-2020, 12:44 AM
Goodwin was such a smart/good pickup.
He just absolutely rakes at the plate, and not to mention that gold glove defense.
Meanwhile... keep on sitting Aquino that way he can never get in a groove playing everyday.
Im thinking Aquino could break 100 year old home run records if he ever got the chance to play everyday. Oh wait a minute, that already happened. My bad. U gotta love this Reds management. Are they playing for draft picks at this point? Or just hate their jobs?

Projections and metrics say Aquino cant get it done and the other 12 guys that get in over him are filled with potential to get it done. In such a crappy crappy organization youd think theyd give him the chance to fail and not ignore his Ruthian hotness for that period last year.

Not like we have Acuna, Judge and Yaz out there. The crappier you are the more chances you get. Now pitching...Bob Steve with his 25th opportunity to show great promise.

Boston Red
09-11-2020, 12:45 AM
Bob Steve showed great promise on that pitch.

Ironman92
09-11-2020, 12:45 AM
If the Reds dont score here...Im going to bed.

Well see really how terrible they are with this

Ironman92
09-11-2020, 12:46 AM
Bob Steve showed great promise on that pitch.

Excellent pitch

Can he hit with runners on?

Boston Red
09-11-2020, 12:47 AM
Let's just get silly and score 4 runs here. A whole week's worth of offense in one inning. Why not?

Ironman92
09-11-2020, 12:48 AM
Great play

Boston Red
09-11-2020, 12:48 AM
Look what I found.

Ron Madden
09-11-2020, 12:48 AM
BABIP strikes again

TexasRedsFan
09-11-2020, 12:48 AM
The only things really worth watching the rest of the way are just how many strikeouts will Bauer finish with and will guys like Garcia and Stephenson get on some kind of roll going into next year.

I'm also wondering if we'll see a bunch of players opt out once their teams are eliminated (not just the Reds).

Boston Red
09-11-2020, 12:50 AM
Only two weeks or so to go. Can't see guys opting out now.

Ironman92
09-11-2020, 12:50 AM
Never sit Nick....ever, hell get mad

REDREAD
09-11-2020, 12:50 AM
I'm also wondering if we'll see a bunch of players opt out once their teams are eliminated (not just the Reds).

I am assuming most of the guys are going to finish the season, because if they opt out, they don't get paid.
Since they are already only getting paid for 60 games, I assume they will want to finish.

Boston Red
09-11-2020, 12:50 AM
Casali for Winker?!?

TexasRedsFan
09-11-2020, 12:51 AM
Never sit Nick....ever, he’ll get mad

I've gone from praying he doesn't opt out to thinking maybe the Reds will be better off if he does.

Ironman92
09-11-2020, 12:51 AM
Night night

Ron Madden
09-11-2020, 12:52 AM
Joel Luckhaupt
@jluckhaupt

8h
I didn't realize how much Castellanos has been struggling. Since 8/8 (29 games): .178/.282/.386(75 wRC+) with a 27% K-rate.

khunter2
09-11-2020, 12:53 AM
TheCowboy is turning into Marty... its kinda funny but also sad..


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Boston Red
09-11-2020, 12:54 AM
I think we're all turning into Marty this year.

TexasRedsFan
09-11-2020, 12:55 AM
I am assuming most of the guys are going to finish the season, because if they opt out, they don't get paid.
Since they are already only getting paid for 60 games, I assume they will want to finish.

Oh ok. I was assuming they got paid for as many games as they played.

Boston Red
09-11-2020, 12:55 AM
Stephenson has the nastiest stuff I've ever seen associated with a double figures ERA.

Boston Red
09-11-2020, 12:57 AM
Oh ok. I was assuming they got paid for as many games as they played.

They do, but the guys are already there. May as well play the last week or so for the 50 grand or million depending on who you are.

Ron Madden
09-11-2020, 12:58 AM
TySteve cooks Billy Hamilton!

WVRedsFan
09-11-2020, 12:58 AM
I ever give up the Reds. Stephenson is why. What a throw. Throws out BH

davereds24
09-11-2020, 12:58 AM
I think we're all turning into Marty this year.

Marty calling this team may have got a double Brennaman firing this season.

coryfly
09-11-2020, 12:59 AM
Game sucks. Team sucks. That throw was sexy AF though.

Redsfan6272
09-11-2020, 01:01 AM
Sadly the beat writers will not ask the tough questions to this orginization. 17 out of the last 20 years , nothong but losing baseball. No leadership on the field, no accountability, just say its all bad luck. Noway its all bad luck, thsy drafted terrible compared to the Astros, Twins and now Whitesox. Then the teams like the Marlins and Cards are forced off 17 days for covid and both of those teams didnt cry about it, they are both playing way above the Reds. I blame ownership for the bad drafting and not bringing in any leaders tht dont put up with loosing. They have shown poor developement all across this teams minor leauges.. can you imagine if the Pirates play just good enough to get past the Reds and the Reds are last again???

mhs95_06
09-11-2020, 01:02 AM
TySteve cooks Billy Hamilton!

That play was worth sitting through all the agony tonight to see!

Boston Red
09-11-2020, 01:02 AM
That's a single for us. Lol

Boston Red
09-11-2020, 01:04 AM
A break!

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That's not a catch. Nope.

Stray
09-11-2020, 01:04 AM
No way that's an out

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Boston Red
09-11-2020, 01:08 AM
Jesus we're dumb.

davereds24
09-11-2020, 01:09 AM
lol you can't make this stuff up

TexasRedsFan
09-11-2020, 01:09 AM
Would be nice to see Shogo finish the season on a tear.

Dang it. Overslide.

Stray
09-11-2020, 01:10 AM
Shogo has had a great game but you can't make an out there

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Boston Red
09-11-2020, 01:10 AM
Would hate to have two on and no outs still. :(

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Someone just hot a damn bomb and tie this thing up!

mhs95_06
09-11-2020, 01:11 AM
First 4 reach base in the 8th, but Shogo can't hold 2nd after a hard slide and is a highly unfortunate out! Tying run should now be on 1st with none out.

Boston Red
09-11-2020, 01:13 AM
First 4 reach base in the 8th, but Shogo can't hold 2nd after a hard slide and is a highly unfortunate out! Tying run should now be on 1st with none out.

Would have killed the shift, too. Oh well.

TexasRedsFan
09-11-2020, 01:14 AM
Should've turned this off earlier and not let them tease me with a too late comeback.

What a time for Garcia's first long one this would be.

Ron Madden
09-11-2020, 01:16 AM
Cubs 7
Reds 5
Middle of 8th inning

Boston Red
09-11-2020, 01:16 AM
Unfortunately, that's about a long a fly as we've seen from Garcia.

Stray
09-11-2020, 01:16 AM
Is Kimbrell still their closer?

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Redsfan6272
09-11-2020, 01:17 AM
I would have pinch hit Farmer for Garcia

mhs95_06
09-11-2020, 01:17 AM
Just lost my FSO feed in favor of the jewelry channel on Suddenlink in Marietta!

Boston Red
09-11-2020, 01:18 AM
Got two runs, but we had 5 outs to work with given the Baez error and the missed third strike on Shogo.

TexasRedsFan
09-11-2020, 01:19 AM
I would have pinch hit Farmer for Garcia

Would've made sense, but isn't he the last backup infielder?

Boston Red
09-11-2020, 01:20 AM
Would've made sense, but isn't he the last backup infielder?

Probably, but Mahle can play SS if we're tied as far as I'm concerned.

Redsfan6272
09-11-2020, 01:21 AM
Would've made sense, but isn't he the last backup infielder?

Yrs but must win game you go with somebody you feel more confident at the plate down by two and tieing run at the plate

BCubb2003
09-11-2020, 01:22 AM
Just lost my FSO feed in favor of the jewelry channel on Suddenlink in Marietta!

Lucky you.

TexasRedsFan
09-11-2020, 01:22 AM
Yrs but must win game you go with somebody you feel more confident at the plate down by two and tieing run at the plate

I definitely agree that Farmer gives you a better shot.

mhs95_06
09-11-2020, 01:23 AM
Would've made sense, but isn't he the last backup infielder?

So what! If someone got hurt, could bring Castellanos in, as he's the 5th infielder in those situations, and put Aquino in the outfield.

Ron Madden
09-11-2020, 01:25 AM
Garcia isn't any worse than anyone else.

Redsfan6272
09-11-2020, 01:26 AM
I definitely agree that Farmer gives you a better shot.

That is what i would have done. Garcia hasnt hit a solid ball hars yet and he just isnt ready yet till he makes adjustments wirh his swing and works on hitting breaking pitches. But i dont know anything per Mr Williams. They have all this analytic data that says dont think between the ears or use your own eyes

Boston Red
09-11-2020, 01:26 AM
Garcia isn't any worse than anyone else.

He is, but the fact that it's close is depressing.

jhc2010
09-11-2020, 01:28 AM
FOX Sports Go is no longer streaming the game. Has been replaced by a black screen. Confirmed by 2 others on Twitter. 5 hours and 5 minutes from the scheduled start time. THANKS Sinclair! Idiots.

TexasRedsFan
09-11-2020, 01:29 AM
Contreras with practically as many hits as the whole Reds team.

Redsfan6272
09-11-2020, 01:29 AM
And Jones comes in gives a run right back..

davereds24
09-11-2020, 01:30 AM
Garcia isn't any worse than anyone else.

He should be in AA right now, he's clearly the worst option on a team full of bad options.

TexasRedsFan
09-11-2020, 01:31 AM
FOX Sports Go is no longer streaming the game. Has been replaced by a black screen. Confirmed by 2 others on Twitter. 5 hours and 5 minutes from the scheduled start time. THANKS Sinclair! Idiots.

Black screen has a better chance of winning this game.

Redsfan6272
09-11-2020, 01:31 AM
Why did they trade for Bradley if Bell wont use him????

Boston Red
09-11-2020, 01:33 AM
Top of the order. Two walks to start the inning would be welcome. And probably the most likely way for the Reds to make things interesting.

TexasRedsFan
09-11-2020, 01:34 AM
I'd rather face Kimbrel and hope for wildness.

jhc2010
09-11-2020, 01:35 AM
Sinclair has restored the FOX Sports Go feed after nearly 15 minutes of a blank screen. Just in time to see Votto lead off the 9th.

Boston Red
09-11-2020, 01:38 AM
Glad Casali was hitting there and not Winker!

Ron Madden
09-11-2020, 01:38 AM
Cubs 8
Reds 5
Final Score

Redsfan6272
09-11-2020, 01:39 AM
Team looks defeated.. i feel they have quit on Bell. Just no fire and cant wait for the wonderful, " We still believe in these guys, they are working so had to go on that run to get in the post season blah blah blah" from Bell

Ron Madden
09-11-2020, 01:42 AM
Box Score

https://www.mlb.com/gameday/reds-vs-cubs/2020/09/10/631634#game_state=final,lock_state=final,game_tab= box,game=631634

TexasRedsFan
09-11-2020, 01:42 AM
Without the rain hampering Sonny, maybe it's a different game. But still another loss.

I'm becoming concerned they may not even finish ahead of the Pirates.

Reds
09-11-2020, 01:50 AM
Well the days of hoping to win series to get back in the playoff picture are probably gone imo. They need to sweep STL if I'm going to hold out hope.

Reds
09-11-2020, 01:52 AM
Why did they trade for Bradley if Bell wont use him????

I was thinking tonight that Bradley must really be wishing for a new manager for next season or he's just going to collect dust in 2021. Once a week Amir will have to get out the duster and dust him off midgame lol

Ron Madden
09-11-2020, 01:57 AM
Mark Sheldon
@m_sheldon
Winker left the game with back tightness. That's why Casali PH for him in the 7th. #reds

Boston Red
09-11-2020, 02:03 AM
Ok, that otherwise made no sense.

mhs95_06
09-11-2020, 02:09 AM
Winker with a bad back now from over swinging too many times while going down on one knee!

Trademark
09-11-2020, 03:51 AM
Another year of no playoffs. Yay!

texasdave
09-11-2020, 06:58 AM
Well, the Reds won the game that I thought they'd lose; and lost the two games that I figured they'd win. I need to stay away from Las Vegas.

Bushman
09-11-2020, 08:56 AM
Horrible to be a Reds fan for years now. Tired of this garbage for real. I can't stop cheering for my hometown team, tho. Seems we as fans care more than the Reds organization do

texasdave
09-11-2020, 02:44 PM
Archie Bradley must be wondering why the Reds traded for him.