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Ron Madden
09-14-2020, 12:35 PM
First Pitch 4:10PM


Reds
1. Shogo Akiyama (L) LF
2. Nick Castellanos (R) DH
3. Joey Votto (L) 1B
4. Eugenio Suarez (R) 3B
5. Mike Moustakas (L) 2B
6. Aristides Aquino (R) RF
7. Nick Senzel (R) CF
8. Tucker Barnhart (L) C
9. Jose Garcia (R) SS
SP Trevor Bauer (R)


Pirates
1. Erik Gonzalez (R) SS
2. Adam Frazier (L) LF
3. Ke'Bryan Hayes (R) 3B
4. Colin Moran (L) 1B
5. Josh Bell (S) DH
6. Bryan Reynolds (S) CF
7. Kevin Newman (R) 2B
8. Cole Tucker (S) RF
9. John Ryan Murphy (R) C
SP Cody Ponce (R)

RedTeamGo!
09-14-2020, 12:59 PM
Yay! More Tucker and no Ty Steve!

Why would we play a young catcher with star potential when we could play Tucker Barnhart 6 out of 7 games?

757690
09-14-2020, 01:03 PM
Yay! More Tucker and no Ty Steve!

Why would we play a young catcher with star potential when we could play Tucker Barnhart 6 out of 7 games?

This is Tuckerís second start in the last 5 days, same as Stephenson.

Btw, Tucker has a 1.116 OPS in September.

CaiGuy
09-14-2020, 01:04 PM
Did I miss a Winker injury?

RedTeamGo!
09-14-2020, 01:05 PM
This is Tucker’s second start in the last 5 days, same as Stephenson.

I was being hyperbolic, but the point remains. Tucker should not be getting as many status at Stephenson.

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Did I miss a Winker injury?

Yes

PuffyPig
09-14-2020, 01:06 PM
Did I miss a Winker injury?

Presumably, he hasn't played in a number of days. He didn't play against the Cards.

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Yay! More Tucker and no Ty Steve!

Why would we play a young catcher with star potential when we could play Tucker Barnhart 6 out of 7 games?

It's a double header, so I doubt any catcher plays both games.

RedTeamGo!
09-14-2020, 01:08 PM
They announced Winker was hurt a couple days ago

Ron Madden
09-14-2020, 01:25 PM
Bobby Nightengale
@nightengalejr
David Bell said Jesse Winker will do a pre-game workout to test his back. #Reds are hopeful that he'll be available off bench in the doubleheader games.

Bruce Berenyi
09-14-2020, 01:26 PM
yes then they can bench aquino for being too patient

RedTeamGo!
09-14-2020, 01:38 PM
yes then they can bench aquino for being too patient

Lol wut

Kc61
09-14-2020, 02:08 PM
Did I miss a Winker injury?


Which season?

Boston Red
09-14-2020, 02:33 PM
Get a doubleheader sweep and hope keeps flickering.

goreds2
09-14-2020, 02:38 PM
Get a doubleheader sweep and hope keeps flickering.

The Reds should be blaring this song in the club house. ( && Right Now && )


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2MCJGH-Py8

Reds
09-14-2020, 03:10 PM
The Reds are heavy favorites (-265) in game 1. Can't remember the last time bettors favored Cincinnati this much.

adkindo
09-14-2020, 03:21 PM
The Reds are heavy favorites (-265) in game 1. Can't remember the last time bettors favored Cincinnati this much.

Trevor...

Reds
09-14-2020, 03:24 PM
Trevor...

Yeah he's not bad in these 7 inning get togethers

texasdave
09-14-2020, 03:45 PM
The man who would not DH is DHing.

Alabama Red
09-14-2020, 03:48 PM
The man who would not DH is DHing.
He’s played in every game. I assume it’s just a rest game and to get Senzel in the field for one game. If Winker was healthy I think AA would be out if the lineup. Not that I agree with that, just think it would have happened that way.

Ron Madden
09-14-2020, 04:00 PM
Joel Luckhaupt
@jluckhaupt
Trevor Bauer is making his 5th start this year on the day of a doubleheader. The last Reds pitchers to do that were Clay Kirby and Pat Darcy, who each started 5 games on the day of a doubleheader in 1975.

Ron Madden
09-14-2020, 04:03 PM
The man who would not DH is DHing.

He was the DH in Friday's game as well.

Big Klu
09-14-2020, 04:10 PM
It's a double header, so I doubt any catcher plays both games.

Why not? They can on my PlayStation.

Boston Red
09-14-2020, 04:15 PM
We're playing!

And.....a Pitt hit.

Kc61
09-14-2020, 04:16 PM
The man who would not DH is DHing.

Exception for one game in a doubleheader.

Boston Red
09-14-2020, 04:20 PM
Not loving this first inning from Bauer so far.

Tom Servo
09-14-2020, 04:21 PM
The Pirates are everyone else’s punching bag and the Reds titanic struggle every time out.

Boston Red
09-14-2020, 04:22 PM
And then he's just filthy pitching to Moran. Nice.

Kc61
09-14-2020, 04:24 PM
The Pirates are everyone else’s punching bag and the Reds titanic struggle every time out.

If I were guessing, and it’s just a guess, Reds will score some runs in this game. Lineup is well balanced, not too many LHH to hit into shift. Hoping Senzel is truly ready to play his best. Lineup is at least 7 deep.

podgejeff_
09-14-2020, 04:25 PM
The Pirates are everyone else’s punching bag and the Reds titanic struggle every time out.

They've given the Cards and Brewers as much if not more trouble than us.

The Cubs and AL Central have absolutely annihilated them.

Tom Servo
09-14-2020, 04:26 PM
They've given the Cards and Brewers as much if not more trouble than us.

The Cubs and AL Central have absolutely annihilated them.
Fair point, hadn't looked at their record against the other NL Central teams besides seeing the Cubs whooping them regularly.

Boston Red
09-14-2020, 04:27 PM
Nice finish. Hopefully Bauer will be sharper innings 2 on.

mhs95_06
09-14-2020, 04:27 PM
Bauer gets thru the first with a zero, but 25 pitches.

zigbeenuthouse
09-14-2020, 04:28 PM
Bauer with 23 pitches in the first. Need a second inning with fewer.

Alabama Red
09-14-2020, 04:28 PM
Bauer turned that around. He needs a few easy innings now to meep his pitch count down. Was hoping he could go 7 with the DH, Lorenzen tomorrow and after the two short starts the last two days.

Ron Madden
09-14-2020, 04:31 PM
Shogo with a BB

podgejeff_
09-14-2020, 04:31 PM
Fair point, hadn't looked at their record against the other NL Central teams besides seeing the Cubs whooping them regularly.

Although I honestly think we've beaten ourselves as much as they've beaten us against them.

That seems to be a recurring theme this season.

NebraskaRed
09-14-2020, 04:31 PM
Shogo continues to look better and better.

zigbeenuthouse
09-14-2020, 04:33 PM
Becoming a Akiyama believer more each game despite getting thrown out.

Boston Red
09-14-2020, 04:33 PM
Well, that's no good.

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Would have been a double play the next pitch anyway.

Tom Servo
09-14-2020, 04:34 PM
Shogo's got speed but maybe give him more of the yellow light than the green light, he's not Billy Hamilton or anything.

podgejeff_
09-14-2020, 04:34 PM
I think we can comfort ourselves on the fact that it was probably a double play either way.

Boston Red
09-14-2020, 04:36 PM
In these 7 inning games, it never feels "early".

podgejeff_
09-14-2020, 04:37 PM
Votto barely missed the angle on that. He catches the barrel a bit more and it's going yard.

100.7 mph exit velo.

texasdave
09-14-2020, 04:37 PM
The Reds (position players only) are drawing about 25% more walks than in 2019. 11.1% vs. 8.4%.

Boston Red
09-14-2020, 04:40 PM
Not sharper to start inning 2. Slightly concerning.

podgejeff_
09-14-2020, 04:40 PM
Why does it seem like we give up way too many walks in day games?

mhs95_06
09-14-2020, 04:41 PM
After getting thru the 1st inning, with a lot of pitches, Bauer walks the lead-off hitter on 5 pitches.

Kc61
09-14-2020, 04:42 PM
Small 2020 samples but -

Votto HR/FB at home (before the fly out in 1st inning) - 33%

Votto HR/FB away 4%.

Boston Red
09-14-2020, 04:42 PM
Yikes.

In between hop. Those are tough.

mhs95_06
09-14-2020, 04:43 PM
Suarez lucky that one didn't go in the seats after hitting his knee!

Boston Red
09-14-2020, 04:45 PM
So what, the Buccos aren't difficult enough to play straight up, so Bauer has decided to make it interesting for himself every inning?

Nice throw Tucker! Nevermind. He's way safe.

Did I see that wrong? Looked to me like Suarez missed the tag. Caught the hand on accident. Awesome!

podgejeff_
09-14-2020, 04:45 PM
For all the criticism Barnhart gets, that arm is for real.

mhs95_06
09-14-2020, 04:46 PM
Both teams hampered by OSs.

Kc61
09-14-2020, 04:47 PM
2020 team stat -

Reds away 14% HR/FB rate.

Reds at home 24% HR/FB rate. Lead NL at home.

podgejeff_
09-14-2020, 04:48 PM
Screw it, Bauer will just strike everyone out.

Boston Red
09-14-2020, 04:48 PM
This is already a kind of strange 0-0 game 9 outs in. Glad Bauer has been able to clean up his messes.

Ron Madden
09-14-2020, 04:50 PM
A few runs wouldn't hurt anything right about now

zigbeenuthouse
09-14-2020, 04:50 PM
Time to put some runs on the board. Pitch count high for Bauer but with 7 innings that helps.

mth123
09-14-2020, 04:50 PM
For all the criticism Barnhart gets, that arm is for real.

Agreed. It's why they'll be able to move him for a lotto ticket as opposed to having to eat the last season of his deal.

podgejeff_
09-14-2020, 04:53 PM
That ball didn't touch the strike zone.

Ron Madden
09-14-2020, 04:55 PM
If Bauer could get that last pitch to Moose a few times today he'd be pretty dangerous

Boston Red
09-14-2020, 04:55 PM
Aquino hit the foul ball very far.

podgejeff_
09-14-2020, 04:56 PM
Aquino's power is really ridiculous. If he figures this whole thing out, he's going to be huge.

Kc61
09-14-2020, 04:57 PM
Reds ISO at home .230.

Reds ISO away .156.

Boston Red
09-14-2020, 05:03 PM
Nice efficient inning for Trevor there. Let's get the lead!

Ron Madden
09-14-2020, 05:04 PM
Trevor Bauer is wearing orange and black stripe Bengals Who Dey cleats.

Kc61
09-14-2020, 05:04 PM
Reds LD % at home 21.8%

Reds LD % away 23.1%

Reds Hard Hit % away 37.4.

Reds Hard Hit % home 37.3.

NebraskaRed
09-14-2020, 05:06 PM
Good AB, Tucker

Boston Red
09-14-2020, 05:06 PM
Cody Ponce is owning us. Man.

kaldaniels
09-14-2020, 05:08 PM
27 games missed for Senzel. From a COVID standpoint Iíd be curious to hear the story if he was willing to tell it.

I mean he seemed ok the day he got ripped off the field. Was it caught early and he just went downhill? Or was he asymptomatic and couldnít get negative tests?

Kc61
09-14-2020, 05:08 PM
This pitcher Young is facing the Reds again.

NebraskaRed
09-14-2020, 05:09 PM
How exciting must it be for a pitcher to face the Reds this year.

Kc61
09-14-2020, 05:10 PM
Reds just need to readjust. Back home where medium-deep fly balls are a good thing.

Ron Madden
09-14-2020, 05:11 PM
ScoreboardStumper: Since 1970, four pitchers have been selected for 3 or more All-Star games, while playing for the Reds. Who are they?

757690
09-14-2020, 05:13 PM
ScoreboardStumper: Since 1970, four pitchers have been selected for 3 or more All-Star games, while playing for the Reds. Who are they?

Soto is the first one to come to mind.

NebraskaRed
09-14-2020, 05:13 PM
https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/facebook/000/001/296/morans.jpg

I wish Moran would get traded to the Cardinals so that this photo would work even better.

podgejeff_
09-14-2020, 05:15 PM
ScoreboardStumper: Since 1970, four pitchers have been selected for 3 or more All-Star games, while playing for the Reds. Who are they?

Gonna guess: Jose Rijo, Johnny Cueto, Gary Nolan, Tom Seaver

Thought more on it. Removing Cueto and adding Mario Soto.

Kingspoint
09-14-2020, 05:17 PM
If we ever needed to win a game this season, we need to win this one.

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Gonna guess: Jose Rijo, Johnny Cueto, Gary Nolan, Tom Seaver

Thought more on it. Removing Cueto and adding Mario Soto.

No Soto?

Sorry, didn't read your next line.

Kc61
09-14-2020, 05:17 PM
Chapman would be one.

757690
09-14-2020, 05:19 PM
I am guessing relievers have a better shot. I’ll go with John Franco

Kingspoint
09-14-2020, 05:19 PM
Big inning now....with Senzel getting a bases-clearing double.

My hope.

Boston Red
09-14-2020, 05:19 PM
https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/facebook/000/001/296/morans.jpg

I wish Moran would get traded to the Cardinals so that this photo would work even better.

I think of this image every time that guy comes to bat against the Reds.

podgejeff_
09-14-2020, 05:21 PM
Crap, didn't even think of relievers.

Modifying list again: Chapman, Soto, Seaver, Franco.

I'm a dumb.

Kingspoint
09-14-2020, 05:22 PM
Ponce got off too easy those first three innings. That's been one of the problems with the REDS' hitters that they tried to fix with Shojo and Senzel and other additons this off-season...increase the pitch count. Make them work for it.

I like our chances with both Senzel and Shojo in the lineup every day (as long as there is a DH for Winker).

podgejeff_
09-14-2020, 05:22 PM
We beat Ponce up last time out, there's still hope here.

Kc61
09-14-2020, 05:22 PM
Reds regressing back to the .210 BA mean.

mth123
09-14-2020, 05:22 PM
ScoreboardStumper: Since 1970, four pitchers have been selected for 3 or more All-Star games, while playing for the Reds. Who are they?

My guess. Mario Soto, John Franco, Tom Seaver, Aroldis Chapman.

NebraskaRed
09-14-2020, 05:23 PM
Votto!!

Boston Red
09-14-2020, 05:23 PM
That's fun. Go Joey!

Kc61
09-14-2020, 05:23 PM
Votto progressing back to the 33% HR/FB mean at home.

JarrodOnVinyl
09-14-2020, 05:23 PM
Votto-matic!!

Boston Red
09-14-2020, 05:24 PM
Almost the exact same result as his first AB. Just got a little bit more of the barrel on it.

podgejeff_
09-14-2020, 05:24 PM
Votto has this guy figured out.

mth123
09-14-2020, 05:24 PM
Reds just need to readjust. Back home where medium-deep fly balls are a good thing.

Joey Votto approves of this post.

Kingspoint
09-14-2020, 05:24 PM
The "Mad Bomber", Joey Votto!

Who needs to make him pitch?

Just blast the first strike over the wall.

mhs95_06
09-14-2020, 05:24 PM
Votto takes advantage of the LCF short porch, like he used to all the time, just barely getting it to clear today.

zigbeenuthouse
09-14-2020, 05:25 PM
Votto OPPOSITE field blast....put this club on your back and run them INTO the playoffs BIG MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!

Umkubas
09-14-2020, 05:25 PM
Go Canada Go

Kingspoint
09-14-2020, 05:26 PM
That first called strike against Suarez sucked, but he turned it into a great PA.

Kingspoint
09-14-2020, 05:28 PM
Best Plate Appearance of this season for any RED.

Super Eugenio!

Kc61
09-14-2020, 05:28 PM
Moose is going to go deep right now.

podgejeff_
09-14-2020, 05:28 PM
Suarez just may be starting to learn how to not swing for the fences every AB.

Umkubas
09-14-2020, 05:29 PM
Excellant at bat by Saurez.....plate appearance of the year, so far

Kingspoint
09-14-2020, 05:29 PM
Those two AB's by Votto and Suarez has Bauer thinking... "Don't even think about taking me out. I got this. I can get nine outs."

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Great patience by Moose. Make the rattled guy pitch.

podgejeff_
09-14-2020, 05:30 PM
Moose is going to go deep right now.

He wasn't far off.

105.3 exit velo.

mth123
09-14-2020, 05:30 PM
Moose is going to go deep right now.

Is Edge of the warning track deep? It was in CF?

Kingspoint
09-14-2020, 05:31 PM
He waited for the 4-seam fastball. Good pitch to try to drive. Just missed it. Barely. Maybe hit it too well. Just a little early or later and it would have found a gap to the wall.

Kc61
09-14-2020, 05:32 PM
Is Edge of the warning track deep? It was in CF?

I meant a 105.3 EV drive to the CF warning track, but caught.

LOL.

Kingspoint
09-14-2020, 05:34 PM
Nice inning by the REDS. Shogo's PA was good, too.

Boston Red
09-14-2020, 05:37 PM
Bauer is rolling.

CaiGuy
09-14-2020, 05:39 PM
Votto oppage...brings back some good memories!

mth123
09-14-2020, 05:39 PM
Don't take Bauer out for nothin'

NebraskaRed
09-14-2020, 05:39 PM
Cy Bauer

Boston Red
09-14-2020, 05:39 PM
Too bad Pitt's leadoff hitter got that single. Otherwise, Bauer would have something we couldn't talk about rolling.

podgejeff_
09-14-2020, 05:39 PM
At least the ref is consistent in calling BS strikes on that side.

mhs95_06
09-14-2020, 05:40 PM
That called strike for the last out saved several pitches for Bauer.

Kingspoint
09-14-2020, 05:40 PM
Bauer is rolling.

That's some mountainous testosterone happening there.

Big Klu
09-14-2020, 05:41 PM
Updated Reds HR list (players in italics are active):

Reds 100-Home Run Club
1. Johnny Bench - 389
2. Frank Robinson - 324
3. Joey Votto - 292
4. Tony Perez - 287
5. Adam Dunn - 270
6. Ted Kluszewski - 251
7. George Foster - 244
8. Jay Bruce - 233
9. Ken Griffey, Jr. - 210
10. Eric Davis - 203
11. Barry Larkin - 198
12. Brandon Phillips - 191
13. Vada Pinson - 186
14. Wally Post - 172
15. Gus Bell - 160
16. Eugenio Suarez - 156
17. Joe Morgan - 152
17. Pete Rose - 152
19. Lee May - 147
20. Dan Driessen - 133
21. Reggie Sanders - 125
22. Ernie Lombardi - 120
23. Sean Casey - 118
24. Frank McCormick - 110
25. Todd Frazier - 108
26. Dave Parker - 107
27. Chris Sabo - 104
28. Dave Concepcion - 101

Patrick Bateman
09-14-2020, 05:41 PM
Should have non-tendered Bauer when we had the chance in the off-season.

CaiGuy
09-14-2020, 05:41 PM
Updated Reds HR list (players in italics are active):

Reds 100-Home Run Club
1. Johnny Bench - 389
2. Frank Robinson - 324
3. Joey Votto - 292
4. Tony Perez - 287
5. Adam Dunn - 270
6. Ted Kluszewski - 251
7. George Foster - 244
8. Jay Bruce - 233
9. Ken Griffey, Jr. - 210
10. Eric Davis - 203
11. Barry Larkin - 198
12. Brandon Phillips - 191
13. Vada Pinson - 186
14. Wally Post - 172
15. Gus Bell - 160
16. Eugenio Suarez - 156
17. Joe Morgan - 152
17. Pete Rose - 152
19. Lee May - 147
20. Dan Driessen - 133
21. Reggie Sanders - 125
22. Ernie Lombardi - 120
23. Sean Casey - 118
24. Frank McCormick - 110
25. Todd Frazier - 108
26. Dave Parker - 107
27. Chris Sabo - 104
28. Dave Concepcion - 101

I think he's going to catch Robinson. Bench...not so much.

Kingspoint
09-14-2020, 05:42 PM
Should have non-tendered Bauer when we had the chance in the off-season.

I didn't know we screwed that up.

Darn.

Big Klu
09-14-2020, 05:42 PM
ScoreboardStumper: Since 1970, four pitchers have been selected for 3 or more All-Star games, while playing for the Reds. Who are they?

My answer:

Tom Seaver
Mario Soto
John Franco
Aroldis Chapman

podgejeff_
09-14-2020, 05:42 PM
That's enough of that Ponce dude, clearly.

CaiGuy
09-14-2020, 05:42 PM
Should have non-tendered Bauer when we had the chance in the off-season.


Yeah and traded Castillo for something good.

Kingspoint
09-14-2020, 05:43 PM
Patience, Obewon!

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That was a horrible PA, Aquino.

mth123
09-14-2020, 05:44 PM
My answer:

Tom Seaver
Mario Soto
John Franco
Aroldis Chapman

Same as mine. Having you say it makes me a lot more confident.

podgejeff_
09-14-2020, 05:44 PM
I like it when they try to run out strikeouts in the dirt.

Gives them the chance for something to happen.

Kc61
09-14-2020, 05:44 PM
Pirates are 28th in BA. Reds are 30th.

Could you guess?

podgejeff_
09-14-2020, 05:44 PM
It took me three edits because I'm stupid, but I think I got it right eventually.

JaxRed
09-14-2020, 05:45 PM
I think he's going to catch Robinson. Bench...not so much.

Just not sure he can get 32 more.....

Kingspoint
09-14-2020, 05:45 PM
It's like Aquino wasn't even paying attention last inning.

If I was Manager, I would have a serious talk with him right now about paying attention to the flow of the game and to focus on the pitcher every single pitch while he's in the dugout. Aquino is definitely missing something upstairs, which explains why he doesn't get playing time.

Even with a different pitcher, got to show some patience.

Big Klu
09-14-2020, 05:45 PM
I would have liked to have seen the Reds add a Tom Seaver memorial patch to the jersey after returning home from the road trip.

Tom Servo
09-14-2020, 05:45 PM
Pirates are 28th in BA. Reds are 30th.

Could you guess?
Who is 29th, is it another Central team?

podgejeff_
09-14-2020, 05:46 PM
Barnhart makes a bloop.

Kingspoint
09-14-2020, 05:46 PM
OK, Garcia.

Learning opportunity here.

Kc61
09-14-2020, 05:46 PM
Who is 29th, is it another Central team?

Nah, Texas Rangers.

Too bad we don’t get to play them.

mth123
09-14-2020, 05:47 PM
Who is 29th, is it another Central team?

Guessing Orioles.

podgejeff_
09-14-2020, 05:47 PM
Garcia slaps a hit through the defense.

Kc61
09-14-2020, 05:47 PM
Guessing Orioles.

Rangers.

Two hits, Garcia with a base knock!

Tom Servo
09-14-2020, 05:48 PM
Nah, Texas Rangers.

Too bad we donít get to play them.
Ah yeah, saw some of their games early on. Odor and Andrus are blackholes of offense.

podgejeff_
09-14-2020, 05:50 PM
I have no idea what Barnhart thinks he's doing with that lead.

mth123
09-14-2020, 05:50 PM
Loaded.

Tom Servo
09-14-2020, 05:50 PM
C'mon Cast, find a gap somewhere.

Kc61
09-14-2020, 05:51 PM
Bases loaded for Castellanos, Reds up 1-0, two outs, bottom 5 of 7.

JaxRed
09-14-2020, 05:51 PM
Garcia up to .200 now.... nice to get off the interstate

Boston Red
09-14-2020, 05:51 PM
C'mon Cast, find a gap somewhere.

Preferably between two seats in the outfield.

Stray
09-14-2020, 05:51 PM
Two more walks for shogo today.

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zigbeenuthouse
09-14-2020, 05:51 PM
Sacks JUICED!!!!!!!!! Castellanos can put a BIG hurt on Pirates..

JaxRed
09-14-2020, 05:52 PM
Cast has no patience....

Boston Red
09-14-2020, 05:54 PM
That looked good off the bat.

Alabama Red
09-14-2020, 05:54 PM
Thought that was gone.

Kc61
09-14-2020, 05:54 PM
Hit it hard, no complaints, 1-0 heading to sixth.

Stray
09-14-2020, 05:54 PM
Looked great off the bat

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Tom Servo
09-14-2020, 05:54 PM
Damn.

Castellanos, along with Castillo, is probably the one guy who could point to bad luck and have a case. His BABIP is crazy low for his career norms and so many of his outs put in play are loud ones.

Kingspoint
09-14-2020, 05:55 PM
4-seam Fastball right down the middle. You know he wants that one back, if not just for better luck. Again, probably hit it too well. Just a little ahead or behind and it finds a gap.

podgejeff_
09-14-2020, 05:55 PM
Sigh, that last out from Castellanos:

103.1 exvelo with an xBA of .860.

Every 9 of those hits out of 10 is a hit.

Ron Madden
09-14-2020, 05:56 PM
That looked good off the bat.

103.1 mph
Barrel
383 feet
84% hit probability

Kc61
09-14-2020, 05:57 PM
Cards and Brewers scoreless in third, first game of a five game set.

Tough call whom to root for, depends on your view of the race.

I’ll root for Brewers for now, but a close call.

podgejeff_
09-14-2020, 05:58 PM
Our two hardest hit balls of the game was that Cast out and the Mike Moustakas lineout.

Both are hits more than 80% of the time.

Kingspoint
09-14-2020, 05:58 PM
Two good innings in a row by REDS' hitters.

Bauer will keep us in the game.

We could come through for him in the 7th and give him another run or two.

Kc61
09-14-2020, 05:58 PM
103.1 mph
Barrel
383 feet
84% hit probability

Ok, I’ll agree that’s BABIP bad luck.

ochoa30
09-14-2020, 05:58 PM
It’s the park. It’s tiny. If it stays in it’s caught.

Boston Red
09-14-2020, 05:59 PM
Congrats to the Pirates on finally putting a Bauer pitch in play.

Strikes Out Looking
09-14-2020, 05:59 PM
Cards and Brewers scoreless in third, first game of a five game set.

Tough call whom to root for, depends on your view of the race.

I’ll root for Brewers for now, but a close call.

You root against the team that is ahead of your team in the standings - and you can end up rooting for and against the same team days apart - in baseball, the enemy of your enemy is your team.

Kingspoint
09-14-2020, 06:01 PM
Didn't know Bauer had a knuckle-curve.

podgejeff_
09-14-2020, 06:01 PM
Bauer is a monster.

Stray
09-14-2020, 06:01 PM
Goodness

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Boston Red
09-14-2020, 06:01 PM
If anyone other than Bauer comes out for the 7th, Bell should be taken out of the stadium...in a straight jacket.

NebraskaRed
09-14-2020, 06:01 PM
Damn Trevor

podgejeff_
09-14-2020, 06:02 PM
You root against the team that is ahead of your team in the standings - and you can end up rooting for and against the same team days apart - in baseball, the enemy of your enemy is your team.

Can't root for the Cards. Under any circumstance. Period.

The same logic applies to the Pirates.

Kingspoint
09-14-2020, 06:02 PM
Bauer is a monster.

So....who is the REDS' best pitcher?

It's incredible that it's a debate among multiple guys.

Kc61
09-14-2020, 06:02 PM
You root against the team that is ahead of your team in the standings - and you can end up rooting for and against the same team days apart - in baseball, the enemy of your enemy is your team.

So your initial goal is to pass the Brewers, as I understand.

Not sure in this instance, but fair argument.

If Brewers knock off Cards, Reds can beat the Brewers head on head in Cincy next week.

mth123
09-14-2020, 06:02 PM
If anyone other than Bauer comes out for the 7th, Bell should be taken out of the stadium...in a hearse.

Fixed

CaiGuy
09-14-2020, 06:03 PM
Well they did score one run for him...what more can Bauer ask for.

Tom Servo
09-14-2020, 06:03 PM
So....who is the REDS' best pitcher?

It's incredible that it's a debate among multiple guys.
Bauer.

Kingspoint
09-14-2020, 06:03 PM
If anyone other than Bauer comes out for the 7th, Bell should be taken out of the stadium...in a straight jacket.

It that happened, Bauer might just go medievil on him in the dugout.

Boston Red
09-14-2020, 06:03 PM
So....who is the REDS' best pitcher?

It's incredible that it's a debate among multiple guys.

I don't think there's a debate at all. Perhaps there's a debate as to who is the second best pitcher. But #1 seems to be #1 by a longshot to me.

Tom Servo
09-14-2020, 06:04 PM
Well they did score one run for him...what more can Bauer ask for.
No defensive miscues in the 7th. :pray:

NebraskaRed
09-14-2020, 06:04 PM
So....who is the REDS' best pitcher?

It's incredible that it's a debate among multiple guys.

Matt Davidson

CaiGuy
09-14-2020, 06:04 PM
Also, the bad Babip-luck is real, at least to a point.

I'd be fine with that regressing to the norm hard over thr next 1+ months.

Kingspoint
09-14-2020, 06:05 PM
I don't think there's a debate at all. Perhaps there's a debate as to who is the second best pitcher. But #1 seems to be #1 by a longshot to me.

It's just that I saw all year long that debate mentioned here on this site over and over again. Bauer was never the consensus at REDSZONE.

Umkubas
09-14-2020, 06:05 PM
If anyone other than Bauer comes out for the 7th, Bell should be taken out of the stadium...in a straight jacket.

What is Igelsias for?

Strikes Out Looking
09-14-2020, 06:05 PM
So your initial goal is to pass the Brewers, as I understand.

Not sure in this instance, but fair argument.

If Brewers knock off Cards, Reds can beat the Brewers head on head in Cincy next week.

Yes - actually the Reds biggest competition these days seems to be ... the Reds.

Kingspoint
09-14-2020, 06:05 PM
No defensive miscues in the 7th. :pray:

Helps having Senzel and Shojo in at the same time.

kaldaniels
09-14-2020, 06:05 PM
Bauer.

And yet there were calls by at least one solid poster to not resign him (via arbitration) and release him into the wild last offseason.

Boston Red
09-14-2020, 06:06 PM
It's just that I saw all year long that debate mentioned here on this site over and over again. Bauer was never the consensus at REDSZONE.

It's getting pretty difficult to make a case for anyone else at this point. Perhaps "small sample size" for a while. But not anymore.

mth123
09-14-2020, 06:06 PM
What is Igelsias for?

Game 2

Kingspoint
09-14-2020, 06:06 PM
How on Earth is that 2nd pitch to Votto a strike?

Kc61
09-14-2020, 06:06 PM
No defensive miscues in the 7th. :pray:

Maybe put Goodwin in CF?

Senzel has been on the shelf for awhile.

Boston Red
09-14-2020, 06:06 PM
What is Igelsias for?

Cheering?

CaiGuy
09-14-2020, 06:06 PM
Helps having Senzel and Shojo in at the same time.

Would be tempting to slide Mouse to 1B and put galvis at 2nd.

Kc61
09-14-2020, 06:06 PM
Heck of an AB by Votto.

Run for him.

Kingspoint
09-14-2020, 06:06 PM
Game 2

Game 1885

podgejeff_
09-14-2020, 06:07 PM
Votto gonna Votto.

Kc61
09-14-2020, 06:07 PM
Would be tempting to slide Mouse to 1B and put galvis at 2nd.

Especially now can run for Votto. Which they aren’t doing for some reason.

Tom Servo
09-14-2020, 06:07 PM
And yet there were calls by at least one solid poster to not resign him (via arbitration) and release him into the wild last offseason.
And of course the gnashing of teeth over acquiring him in the first place. Whether it results in the playoffs or not, I don't see how it can be viewed as anything but a smart move especially with a second team now having given up on Trammell.

Kingspoint
09-14-2020, 06:07 PM
Heck of an AB by Votto.

Run for him.

That should be a no-brainer with a defensive replacement for 1st, too.

mth123
09-14-2020, 06:07 PM
And yet there were calls by at least one solid poster to not resign him (via arbitration) and release him into the wild last offseason.

Guilty. $17 Million seemed a lot for that 10 ERA or whatever it was last year. I'd give him twice that to come back next year.

Umkubas
09-14-2020, 06:07 PM
Another good at bat for Suarez please

podgejeff_
09-14-2020, 06:08 PM
And of course the gnashing of teeth over acquiring him in the first place. Whether it results in the playoffs or not, I don't see how it can be viewed as anything but a smart move especially with a second team now having given up on Trammell.

Yeah, we sold relatively high on Trammell.

You aren't going to get a pitcher of Bauer's caliber for nothing. Giving up a guy who may have peaked and another guy who was never in our longterm plans is about as close as you're gonna get.

Boston Red
09-14-2020, 06:08 PM
Questionable, but too close to not swing.

Kingspoint
09-14-2020, 06:09 PM
This is why Buckner wasn't replaced in Boston for that one inning.

Boston Red
09-14-2020, 06:10 PM
Seems our guys (other than Votto) are eager to get in the field and watch Bauer pitch again.

Strikes Out Looking
09-14-2020, 06:10 PM
Just how much will it cost to sign Bauer for 2021? He seems to like playing in Cincy and he has also said he only wants one year at a time - so there is no long term injury risk. $25-30 million? What are the comps based on a short season after his shaky 2019?

Kingspoint
09-14-2020, 06:10 PM
Sorry, Bauer. You'll have to do this on your own.

CaiGuy
09-14-2020, 06:11 PM
2 insurance runs please and thank you punisher

Tom Servo
09-14-2020, 06:11 PM
Aristides must not have seen the 10 or so gloating posts from Bruce B. over his HR yesterday

CaiGuy
09-14-2020, 06:12 PM
They're saving those runs for game 2.

Kingspoint
09-14-2020, 06:13 PM
Out of respect, you don't take the guy out who provided the only offense in the game, I guess. Understandable, and you take your chances. Not everything can be done without considering players' emotions and their respect they have earned.

podgejeff_
09-14-2020, 06:13 PM
Just how much will it cost to sign Bauer for 2021? He seems to like playing in Cincy and he has also said he only wants one year at a time - so there is no long term injury risk. $25-30 million? What are the comps based on a short season after his shaky 2019?

Looking at a comparable like DeGrom's contract, and taking his relative youth into account plus the whole one year status (will be interesting to see if he sticks with this), $25 to 30 sounds about right. Probably closer to 30.

We're looking at least at a 10 mil upgrade to payroll.

Kingspoint
09-14-2020, 06:14 PM
Since Bauer only signs one-year contracts, does this seem like a $30M contract that is going to the Yankees or Dodgers?

Ron Madden
09-14-2020, 06:15 PM
Damn!

Kingspoint
09-14-2020, 06:15 PM
Dodgers or Yankees can offer him $150M for four years.

Boston Red
09-14-2020, 06:15 PM
I hate baseball.

kaldaniels
09-14-2020, 06:15 PM
Hell there’s a “Bauer Should Have Been Dealt!” thread up and running right now.

And people wonder why I’m crotchety.

CaiGuy
09-14-2020, 06:15 PM
Dang

NebraskaRed
09-14-2020, 06:15 PM
Well..

zigbeenuthouse
09-14-2020, 06:15 PM
Tied. 1-1. Keep it here.

Kingspoint
09-14-2020, 06:15 PM
Damn!

Don't even think about taking him out because of just one pitch.

ochoa30
09-14-2020, 06:15 PM
Absolute joke of a park

Kingspoint
09-14-2020, 06:16 PM
Great pitch. Better swing.

kaldaniels
09-14-2020, 06:16 PM
Everything is fine....

NebraskaRed
09-14-2020, 06:16 PM
This wouldn't have been a problem if the Reds had found a way to get more than 1 run off the powerhouse pitching of the worst team in baseball.

Kc61
09-14-2020, 06:16 PM
Homers such as that are why Bauer will leave the Reds.

Kingspoint
09-14-2020, 06:16 PM
Do not visit the mound.

mth123
09-14-2020, 06:16 PM
Absolute joke of a park

GABP giveth and GABP taketh away.

Boston Red
09-14-2020, 06:17 PM
Like I said, Bell clearly should have brought in his closer for this inning!

mhs95_06
09-14-2020, 06:17 PM
Absolute joke of a park

That one went out by at least double the amount that Votto's did!

ochoa30
09-14-2020, 06:18 PM
GABP giveth and GABP taketh away.

Seems to hurt the Reds more then help somehow

CaiGuy
09-14-2020, 06:18 PM
This wouldn't have been a problem if the Reds had found a way to get more than 1 run off the powerhouse pitching of the worst team in baseball.

Just like a lot of the Reds and bullpen struggles over the last 2 seasons...offense never gives them any space.

Kingspoint
09-14-2020, 06:18 PM
Just setting up the Votto Walk-off.

CaiGuy
09-14-2020, 06:19 PM
Homers such as that are why Bauer will leave the Reds.

Or maybe he likes the challenge?

Kc61
09-14-2020, 06:19 PM
Glad Votto stayed in the game. Good call there by Bell.

JaxRed
09-14-2020, 06:19 PM
Tucker stole a K there...

Kingspoint
09-14-2020, 06:19 PM
Bauer is trying to get that double-play early in the count.

mth123
09-14-2020, 06:20 PM
Seems to hurt the Reds more then help somehow

Because other teams get guys on base in front of their cheap HR. The Reds are Solo performers instead of being a trio or quartet. .

Tom Servo
09-14-2020, 06:20 PM
You may or may not be surprised to learn that Moran's 9 career HRs against the Reds are more than double that of the team he has the second most HRs against (MIL and STL at 4 a piece).

CaiGuy
09-14-2020, 06:21 PM
Ugh IF hit...why do the baseball gods hate the Reds.

Kingspoint
09-14-2020, 06:21 PM
Bauer is your best pitcher. This is who should be on the mound to finish this inning.

Kc61
09-14-2020, 06:21 PM
I’d probably take Bauer out now, he seems gassed.

JaxRed
09-14-2020, 06:21 PM
I'm not sure I like Stephenson in this game. I like him as more of a long man.

mth123
09-14-2020, 06:22 PM
Jeez. Wish Bauer would have punched Bell in mouth there.

NebraskaRed
09-14-2020, 06:22 PM
Iggy in.

Kingspoint
09-14-2020, 06:22 PM
The mound visit is just to make certain everyone understands the strategy here (Bauer strike the next two guys out).

podgejeff_
09-14-2020, 06:22 PM
If we get nasty Iggy from yesterday? I ain't worried.

It's that other guy that shows up that scares me.

zigbeenuthouse
09-14-2020, 06:22 PM
Lets see....2 on and 1 out....Iglesias on. He has chance to redeem himself from that horrible 9th inning loss to Pirates couple weeks ago.

JaxRed
09-14-2020, 06:22 PM
OK they went Iggy

Kc61
09-14-2020, 06:22 PM
Bauer is your best pitcher. This is who should be on the mound to finish this inning.

He’s the best pitcher when fresh. I don’t think he’s fresh now. Correct call to bring in Iglesias here.

Kingspoint
09-14-2020, 06:23 PM
Can't say I'm happy to see Bauer removed for Iglesias here, no matter what the results are. Think I'll go turn on the TV and see if I can watch this misery.

PuffyPig
09-14-2020, 06:23 PM
That HR had an expected BA of .370. Basically an out or a double.

Cast bases loaded smash was at .870.
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CaiGuy
09-14-2020, 06:23 PM
I think I liked gassed Bauer more than either guy warming up...but the Reds couldn't get more than 1 the Pirates 5th or whatever starter so whatever happens here is on the O.