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Ron Madden
09-14-2020, 07:02 PM
First Pitch 7:25pm


Reds
1. Shogo Akiyama (L) LF
2. Nick Castellanos (R) RF
3. Joey Votto (L) DH
4. Eugenio Suarez (R) 3B
5. Mike Moustakas (L) 1B
6. Brian Goodwin (L) CF
7. Freddy Galvis (S) 2B
8. Kyle Farmer (R) SS
9. Curt Casali (R) C
SP Anthony DeSclafani (R)


Pirates
1. Erik Gonzalez (R) SS
2. Adam Frazier (L) LF
3. Ke'Bryan Hayes (R) 3B
4. Colin Moran (L) DH
5. Josh Bell (S) 1B
6. Bryan Reynolds (S) CF
7. Gregory Polanco (L) RF
8. Kevin Newman (R) 2B
9. Jacob Stallings (R) C
SP Mitch Keller (R)

podgejeff_
09-14-2020, 07:02 PM
Of course Bell takes away our ability to both praise Tyler Stephenson and use the name Bock.

RedlegsFanatic
09-14-2020, 07:03 PM
Great moment for the rookie!
He has such a great future.

RedTeamGo!
09-14-2020, 07:07 PM
Bell should be fired for not starting Stephenson in this game.

Shows absolute incompetence.

Indefensible.

Tom Servo
09-14-2020, 07:07 PM
Bell should be fired for not starting Stephenson in this game.

Shows absolute incompetence.

Indefensible.
Chill out

RedTeamGo!
09-14-2020, 07:10 PM
Chill out

No. This is absurd. Kid just hit a walk off homer 20 minutes ago and Bell shows him the bench in game 2 of a DH.

Absolutely stupid beyond belief stuff here.

podgejeff_
09-14-2020, 07:10 PM
Curt Casali is OPSing 850ish.

I am absolutely fine with him starting.

podgejeff_
09-14-2020, 07:12 PM
No. This is absurd. Kid just hit a walk off homer 20 minutes ago and Bell shows him the bench in game 2 of a DH.

Absolutely stupid beyond belief stuff here.

While I'd generally agree, how much experience does he have calling a game with Disco on the mound?

I bet Casali has a lot more.

Kc61
09-14-2020, 07:12 PM
I’m sure Casali was told much earlier that he was catching Game 2.

You don’t just change that because Stephenson hit a home run.

Stephenson can start tomorrow.

RedTeamGo!
09-14-2020, 07:13 PM
I’m sure he has enough.

Kid just had the biggest hit of the year 20 minutes ago and is clearly a star in the making. Better sit him. I mean, I can’t with this. It’s insanity.

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I’m sure Casali was told much earlier that he was catching Game 2.

You don’t just change that because Stephenson hit a home run.

Stephenson can start tomorrow.

Yeah, we can’t tell Curt Casali to take a seat. That would be crazy.

Kc61
09-14-2020, 07:15 PM
I’m sure he has enough.

Kid just had the biggest hit of the year 20 minutes ago and is clearly a star in the making. Better sit him. I mean, I can’t with this. It’s insanity.

So you’d tell Casali, who expects to be starting, who’s got around an .850 OPS, sorry Curt, you’re going to sit, we have to go with the kid.

I wouldn’t view that as proper managing. You have to keep your team together and keep your promises.

Patrick Bateman
09-14-2020, 07:18 PM
Bell should be fired for not starting Stephenson in this game.

Shows absolute incompetence.

Indefensible.

Every manager pre makes both lineups for a double header in advance of both games. Advance Oreo Westin is definitely not indefensible or a sign of gross negligence. However, I might argue impulse posting lacking in substance might be.

In all seriousness, I’m game for getting Steve some starts. Some pitchers might have a preference at this point and I’d be looking to set up starts from guys like Antone, Mahle, whom might not have a huge preference at this point, and I expect you will see it happen.

Not sure if that’s the case with Disco, as to begin the day I would have likely preferred Stephenson (who has less platoon splits than Casali) agajnst the righty.


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Patrick Bateman
09-14-2020, 07:19 PM
Yeah, we can’t tell Curt Casali to take a seat. That would be crazy.

Lol. This is definitely not how you manage professional athletes.



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RedTeamGo!
09-14-2020, 07:21 PM
So you’d tell Casali, who expects to be starting, who’s got around an .850 OPS, sorry Curt, you’re going to sit, we have to go with the kid.

I wouldn’t view that as proper managing. You have to keep your team together and keep your promises.

I literally could not care less about Curt Casali’s feelings.

Ron Madden
09-14-2020, 07:22 PM
We may not like every lineup but we should always root for our home team to win...

That's what I'm gona do

RedTeamGo!
09-14-2020, 07:25 PM
People act like there aren’t 12 games left in the season.

“Well, ya see, Curt Casali was told earlier today he was starting game 2 and we, uh, can’t offend Curt Casali”

Mitri
09-14-2020, 07:26 PM
I’m sure he has enough.

Kid just had the biggest hit of the year 20 minutes ago and is clearly a star in the making. Better sit him. I mean, I can’t with this. It’s insanity.

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Yeah, we can’t tell Curt Casali to take a seat. That would be crazy.

What's really dumb is that Stephenson wasn't starting game 1. But it could be Bauer requested Tucker or something, AND if that were to happen then Ty Steve wouldn't have been available to pinch hit and none of us would be here because the Reds would have lost and we'd all have given up on the season.

So it's really not a big deal.

zigbeenuthouse
09-14-2020, 07:27 PM
Well, better give Bell the credit for PH Stephenson for Akiyama in game one for win. We'll go with this judgement on whom to start game two.

757690
09-14-2020, 07:28 PM
Starting a player in the second game of a double header because he hit a homer in the first game is what High School managers do, not MLB managers.

Patrick Bateman
09-14-2020, 07:29 PM
People act like there aren’t 12 games left in the season.

“Well, ya see, Curt Casali was told earlier today he was starting game 2 and we, uh, can’t offend Curt Casali”

For one thing, Casali has actually performed well so far this year, and secondly, it has as much to do with Desclafani’s preparation for the game.

It’s absolutely incredulous that you would make this change in the 11th hour because of one at bat.

I would have started Stephenson in one of the two games today, and Barnhart in the other, subject to comfort/approval from either of the starting pitchers.

The way you are describing how this process works is amateur hour.


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podgejeff_
09-14-2020, 07:31 PM
I literally could not care less about Curt Casali’s feelings.

It's a shame, because Curt Casali probably cares about your feelings. He's a good dude.

zigbeenuthouse
09-14-2020, 07:34 PM
Moran hurting Reds today.

NebraskaRed
09-14-2020, 07:34 PM
Moran is history's greatest monster.

Ron Madden
09-14-2020, 07:35 PM
Nice throw Shogo!

podgejeff_
09-14-2020, 07:35 PM
Can we please stop pitching to Colin Moran?

Patrick Bateman
09-14-2020, 07:36 PM
Btw, can we decelerate the hype train on Steve as if he isn’t the second coming of Johnny Bench?

He ops’d like 780 in AA last year. Casali has 850 in the majors this year.

I like Steve, I loved the moment. He looks the part. But to suggest we need to start pushing people around the clubhouse because this kid homered today is really silly. The starts will come, and it’s not likely an Uber material difference in production which one plays today that we need a last second decision.

The same poster had a similar rant about the Reds incompetence on Jose Garcia, only to see him eventually come up hugely overmatched at the plate with a longer sample.


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NebraskaRed
09-14-2020, 07:37 PM
so is it 2-0 or 1-0?

podgejeff_
09-14-2020, 07:37 PM
Btw, can we decelerate the hype train on Steve as if he isn’t the second coming of Johnny Bench?

He ops’d like 780 in AA last year. Casali has 850 in the majors this year.

I like Steve, I loved the moment. He looks the part. But to suggest we need to start pushing people around the clubhouse because this kid homered today is really silly. The starts will come, and it’s not likely an Uber material difference in production which one plays today that we need a last second decision.

The same poster had a similar rant scout the Reds incompetence on Jose Garcia, only to see him eventually come up hugely overmatched at the plate with a longer sample.


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I refuse to decelerate the hype train on Tyler Stephenson.

I will stop short of calling him the second coming of Johnny Bench. I'd settle for Gabby Hartnett or Gary Carter. I'm not picky.

Tom Servo
09-14-2020, 07:38 PM
The same poster had a similar rant scout the Reds incompetence on Jose Garcia, only to see him eventually come up hugely overmatched at the plate with a longer sample.

He’s got you there RTG.

Stray
09-14-2020, 07:38 PM
We get a break there. Gotta run hard.

podgejeff_
09-14-2020, 07:39 PM
HAHA sucks to be you PIRATES!

NebraskaRed
09-14-2020, 07:39 PM
ok, so it's 1-0

podgejeff_
09-14-2020, 07:42 PM
Keller just got Shogo'd.

NC Reds
09-14-2020, 07:42 PM
Good eye Shogo.

Stray
09-14-2020, 07:42 PM
He just keeps getting on base.

Tom Servo
09-14-2020, 07:42 PM
Shogo = On Base Machine

RedTeamGo!
09-14-2020, 07:42 PM
He’s got you there RTG.

Fine, but they aren’t remotely comparable situations.

Mitri
09-14-2020, 07:43 PM
Is Shogo elite?

podgejeff_
09-14-2020, 07:43 PM
Is Shogo elite?

He seems to be a competent leadoff man.

It's been a while since we've had that.

NebraskaRed
09-14-2020, 07:44 PM
Sometimes Castellanos reminds me of Todd Frazier

kaldaniels
09-14-2020, 07:44 PM
He’s got you there RTG.

First his streak of spotting Bresser/junkhead comes to an end. Now this.

Rough 48 hours for RTG.

RedTeamGo!
09-14-2020, 07:46 PM
First his streak of spotting Bresser/junkhead comes to an end. Now this.

Rough 48 hours for RTG.

For the record I was calling for Stephenson to start game 1.

I am not wrong about Stephenson.

NebraskaRed
09-14-2020, 07:46 PM
Maybe we take a break on Shogo trying to steal 2nd.

kaldaniels
09-14-2020, 07:47 PM
7 inning game fellas gotta strike when the iron is hot.

Keller was at like 12 pitches and no outs. Talk about let off the hook.

TheBigLebowski
09-14-2020, 07:47 PM
I care about Castellanos coming back next year less and less by the day. If he does, meh. If he doesn’t? Meh.

JP321
09-14-2020, 07:48 PM
Nick is nauseating to watch

podgejeff_
09-14-2020, 07:48 PM
I care about Castellanos coming back next year less and less by the day. If he does, meh. If he doesn’t? Meh.

I think we could definitely use Castellanos money to get an equivalent in free agency.

It's not the end of the world if he's gone.

RedTeamGo!
09-14-2020, 07:50 PM
Curt Casali has a .203 BA. Haha

Rantly
09-14-2020, 07:51 PM
Sometimes Castellanos reminds me of Todd Frazier

Frazier was a better bad ball hitter. I swear I’ve seen Cast strike out on that low and away breaking ball 15-20 times this year

kaldaniels
09-14-2020, 07:51 PM
For the record I was calling for Stephenson to start game 1.

I am not wrong about Stephenson.

He should be starting a lot.

But these lineups were surely set in advance. You don’t change them because of one home run.

50YrRedsFan
09-14-2020, 07:51 PM
Nick is nauseating to watch

Time to move him down in the lineup.

podgejeff_
09-14-2020, 07:51 PM
Curt Casali has a .203 BA. Haha

His OBP is the second highest on the team of anyone with 50 PA.

Tom Servo
09-14-2020, 07:52 PM
Making a mental note of the Castellanos bashing for when he bounces back next year to his normal slashline

kaldaniels
09-14-2020, 07:54 PM
I feel like T-Bone hasn’t been taken to the woodshed enough for his 7+ ERA this year. Talk about a letdown.

TheBigLebowski
09-14-2020, 07:54 PM
I think we could definitely use Castellanos money to get an equivalent in free agency.

It's not the end of the world if he's gone.

Just in defense alone.

Not only is Nick just terrifying out there, he’s hell-bent on playing.

JP321
09-14-2020, 07:54 PM
Making a mental note of the Castellanos bashing for when he bounces back next year to his normal slashline

If he is still a Red

Rantly
09-14-2020, 07:54 PM
Making a mental note of the Castellanos bashing for when he bounces back next year to his normal slashline

Not bashing, just an observation at the moment.

kaldaniels
09-14-2020, 07:56 PM
Polanco is one of the bigger prospect busts in recent history. Especially ones that looked promising upon their call up to the majors.

Tom Servo
09-14-2020, 07:56 PM
If he is still a Red
Either way really, I’m just not sure how some are letting not even half a season shade their view of his hitting ability.

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Polanco is one of the bigger prospect busts in recent history. Especially ones that looked promising upon their call up to the majors.
I liked the idea of buying low on him, sure glad that didn’t happen.

JP321
09-14-2020, 07:58 PM
The frustrating part about him is he seems to not get that every pitcher throws him the same. Sliders low and away out of zone. He doesnt adjust at all. If he literally didnt swing he would walk more than strikeout

VR
09-14-2020, 07:59 PM
Btw, can we decelerate the hype train on Steve as if he isn’t the second coming of Johnny Bench?

He ops’d like 780 in AA last year. Casali has 850 in the majors this year.

I like Steve, I loved the moment. He looks the part. But to suggest we need to start pushing people around the clubhouse because this kid homered today is really silly. The starts will come, and it’s not likely an Uber material difference in production which one plays today that we need a last second decision.

The same poster had a similar rant about the Reds incompetence on Jose Garcia, only to see him eventually come up hugely overmatched at the plate with a longer sample.


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Bench was .800 in the minors [emoji51]


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Ron Madden
09-14-2020, 08:00 PM
5 K's for Disco

podgejeff_
09-14-2020, 08:01 PM
So did Luis Castillo pass his curse onto Disco as far as luck is concerned?

Ron Madden
09-14-2020, 08:04 PM
BB to Geno

podgejeff_
09-14-2020, 08:05 PM
Geno walks.

zigbeenuthouse
09-14-2020, 08:07 PM
Goodwin blast!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

podgejeff_
09-14-2020, 08:07 PM
Goodwin goes 2 run yard!

NebraskaRed
09-14-2020, 08:08 PM
Gooooooodwin

kaldaniels
09-14-2020, 08:08 PM
There we go.

Ron Madden
09-14-2020, 08:08 PM
Goodwin Goes Bye Bye!!!

2-1 Reds

TheBigLebowski
09-14-2020, 08:09 PM
So glad we got that guy. Good player.

podgejeff_
09-14-2020, 08:10 PM
So glad we got that guy. Good player.

You just wait until Packy Naughton wins a Cy Young.

Mitri
09-14-2020, 08:11 PM
Is David Bell elite?

Ron Madden
09-14-2020, 08:11 PM
Farmer walks

Rantly
09-14-2020, 08:12 PM
Bench was .800 in the minors [emoji51]
Got to be small sample size. How long was Bench in the minors?

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podgejeff_
09-14-2020, 08:13 PM
Is David Bell elite?

Who do you take? David Bell or Jerry Narron?

Ron Madden
09-14-2020, 08:14 PM
Casali walks

podgejeff_
09-14-2020, 08:14 PM
Curt "Nobody in their right mind would question me starting" Casali draws a walk in a very elite, undeniable fashion.

TheBigLebowski
09-14-2020, 08:17 PM
You just wait until Packy Naughton wins a Cy Young.

You gotta give something to get something

SirFelixCat
09-14-2020, 08:18 PM
Good job of the bottom of the order to be patient and turn the lineup over. Good ABs there.

kaldaniels
09-14-2020, 08:22 PM
If T-Bone can get thru 5 or 6 it would be huge for Lorenzen’s start tomorrow. That is going to be an all hands on deck situation.

Patrick Bateman
09-14-2020, 08:24 PM
Fine, but they aren’t remotely comparable situations.

That actually draws more attention to the silliness of the Garcia thing! Lol

Anyways, RTG, you are a good guy and passionate Reds fan. All in good fun here. I’m a Stephenson fan too, and surprised he wasn’t given one of the two games today.

I’m not sure if it’s an old school thing, or pitchers getting too comfortable, but I think there is sometimes more going on behind the scenes in transitioning catchers, and might be why they have been slow to give him opportunity despite Barnharts struggles.

I’m with you in looking forward to getting Steve some starts down the stretch, and no question it would be a LOT more fun than watching Barnhart weakly swinging at junk.


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NebraskaRed
09-14-2020, 08:24 PM
A lot of hard hit balls off of T-Bone.

Stray
09-14-2020, 08:25 PM
lmao

Ron Madden
09-14-2020, 08:26 PM
Disco gets'em 1-2-3 in the 3rd

podgejeff_
09-14-2020, 08:28 PM
I'd like to think the Pirates lose this game solely because of Colin Moran's cup.

Ron Madden
09-14-2020, 08:31 PM
Joey Goes BOOM!!!

3-1 Reds

podgejeff_
09-14-2020, 08:31 PM
Votto hammered that one.

3-1 good guys.

SirFelixCat
09-14-2020, 08:31 PM
Votto at GABP = Beast

TexasRedsFan
09-14-2020, 08:32 PM
Joey looked like he knew exactly what was coming.

JarrodOnVinyl
09-14-2020, 08:32 PM
Votto-matic!!!

NebraskaRed
09-14-2020, 08:32 PM
Whatever happened mentally or physically after Votto was "benched"

Thank the good lord for it.

podgejeff_
09-14-2020, 08:33 PM
Keller already at 61 pitches coming off of injury.

Patrick Bateman
09-14-2020, 08:34 PM
Whatever happened mentally or physically after Votto was "benched"

Thank the good lord for it.

Almost seems like the overanalysis is gone. Like nothing to lose now knowing he’d kinda hit rock bottom for his career.


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TexasRedsFan
09-14-2020, 08:35 PM
Another day of only scoring with homers, but if it gets us two wins, I'll take it.

Big Klu
09-14-2020, 08:36 PM
Updated Reds HR list (players in italics are active):

Reds 100-Home Run Club
1. Johnny Bench - 389
2. Frank Robinson - 324
3. Joey Votto - 293
4. Tony Perez - 287
5. Adam Dunn - 270
6. Ted Kluszewski - 251
7. George Foster - 244
8. Jay Bruce - 233
9. Ken Griffey, Jr. - 210
10. Eric Davis - 203
11. Barry Larkin - 198
12. Brandon Phillips - 191
13. Vada Pinson - 186
14. Wally Post - 172
15. Gus Bell - 160
16. Eugenio Suarez - 156
17. Joe Morgan - 152
17. Pete Rose - 152
19. Lee May - 147
20. Dan Driessen - 133
21. Reggie Sanders - 125
22. Ernie Lombardi - 120
23. Sean Casey - 118
24. Frank McCormick - 110
25. Todd Frazier - 108
26. Dave Parker - 107
27. Chris Sabo - 104
28. Dave Concepcion - 101

NebraskaRed
09-14-2020, 08:38 PM
T-bone says "hold on a second"

podgejeff_
09-14-2020, 08:39 PM
Moose flashing the leather, robbing a double. On a ball with an 82% chance of being a hit.

Kingspoint
09-14-2020, 08:41 PM
Almost seems like the overanalysis is gone. Like nothing to lose now knowing he’d kinda hit rock bottom for his career.


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Coincidence. He was going to get here anyway this season. Just looks odd because of the timing. He's just too intelligent for it to not have been because of whatever it is that he figured out. Doubt if his approach changed.

Patrick Bateman
09-14-2020, 08:44 PM
Coincidence. He was going to get here anyway this season. Just looks odd because of the timing. He's just too intelligent for it to not have been because of whatever it is that he figured out. Doubt if his approach changed.

Well he definitely has stuck with the more upright power stance. He started it a gave or two prior to benching. So maybe he did figure something out mechanically to go for it more often.


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Tom Servo
09-14-2020, 08:46 PM
Gotta make hay against this Pirates pen.

Kingspoint
09-14-2020, 08:48 PM
Need to keep up the 2-out rallies in this 2nd game.

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When is Winker available to pinch-hit?

Ron Madden
09-14-2020, 08:48 PM
Farmer lines a single

podgejeff_
09-14-2020, 08:49 PM
Kyle Farmer makes a bloop.

zigbeenuthouse
09-14-2020, 08:49 PM
Josh Bell is a clubber.

podgejeff_
09-14-2020, 08:52 PM
RTG is vindicated.

Kingspoint
09-14-2020, 08:52 PM
We are just 1.5 back of the WC this minute. Need to grab for the ring here.

Ron Madden
09-14-2020, 08:54 PM
Bobby Nightengale
@nightengalejr
That was Joey Votto's 960th career RBI. He is now tied with Barry Larkin for 5th on the #Reds' all-time list.

M2
09-14-2020, 08:55 PM
Josh Bell is a clubber.

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Ron Madden
09-14-2020, 08:56 PM
Nice play Farmer

Ironman92
09-14-2020, 08:56 PM
Was that Tatis at SS

RedTeamGo!
09-14-2020, 08:57 PM
Kyle Farmer is just a straight up good ballplayer.

JaxRed
09-14-2020, 08:58 PM
Stumper... Spahn, Jenkins, Carlton, Seaver

zigbeenuthouse
09-14-2020, 08:59 PM
GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEzus........:bang:

Kingspoint
09-14-2020, 08:59 PM
Take a breath. Take a breath.

Ironman92
09-14-2020, 08:59 PM
Cmon Disco

podgejeff_
09-14-2020, 08:59 PM
My guess for the 4 pitchers with 10 all star games:

Tom Seaver, Roger Clemens, Greg Maddux, Randy Johnson

Tom Servo
09-14-2020, 09:00 PM
Sub optimal

Disco really condensed his bad first half good second half into like 8 starts but backwards this time

zigbeenuthouse
09-14-2020, 09:00 PM
Bell wanted to give DeSclafani chance for W...but he's out of gas.

Ironman92
09-14-2020, 09:00 PM
Stumper... Spahn, Jenkins, Carlton, Seaver

Those the answers?

Thinking Mariano close...Palmer

Patrick Bateman
09-14-2020, 09:01 PM
Wouldn’t have let disco go far into the 3rd time through the order.

7 inning ballgame. Should have got to Archie before the homer.


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zigbeenuthouse
09-14-2020, 09:01 PM
Here comes the Clubber.....not sure I leave him in to face this big guy....

JaxRed
09-14-2020, 09:01 PM
My guess for the 4 pitchers with 10 all star games:

Tom Seaver, Roger Clemens, Greg Maddux, Randy Johnson
I went for older guys when they used to play 2

M2
09-14-2020, 09:02 PM
I am not enjoying Disco demolition night.

RedTeamGo!
09-14-2020, 09:02 PM
Curt Casali is excellent at walking to the mound buying time for the bullpen while the starter is clearly toast. True veteran presence. Stephenson just couldn’t do this.

podgejeff_
09-14-2020, 09:03 PM
I went for older guys when they used to play 2

Now that I think about it, Warren Spahn makes a lot of sense.

Kingspoint
09-14-2020, 09:03 PM
All of this with two outs by Pittsburg.

TheBigLebowski
09-14-2020, 09:04 PM
T-Bone is horrible.

JaxRed
09-14-2020, 09:04 PM
Why DeLeon here? He'll I'd rather have Romano. Isn't he still active?

podgejeff_
09-14-2020, 09:04 PM
Curt Casali is excellent at walking to the mound buying time for the bullpen while the starter is clearly toast. True veteran presence. Stephenson just couldn’t do this.

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Jomama
09-14-2020, 09:04 PM
Curt Casali is OPSing 850ish.

I am absolutely fine with him starting.

Because Casali is our future...

Tom Servo
09-14-2020, 09:05 PM
The Pirates have 42 HRs now this year. Disco gave up 6 of them.

zigbeenuthouse
09-14-2020, 09:05 PM
DeLeon on and I hope he has no gasoline in his pocket...Clubber looking to CLUB

Big Klu
09-14-2020, 09:06 PM
My guesses:

Tom Seaver
Warren Spahn
Mariano Rivera
Bob Gibson

Rantly
09-14-2020, 09:06 PM
My guess for the 4 pitchers with 10 all star games:

Tom Seaver, Roger Clemens, Greg Maddux, Randy Johnson

I think you only got one, Jaxred did much better.

Jomama
09-14-2020, 09:06 PM
While I'd generally agree, how much experience does he have calling a game with Disco on the mound?

I bet Casali has a lot more.

Good thing Casali was calling the game or it might have been a short night for Disco.

M2
09-14-2020, 09:08 PM
Steve Carlton is def one of the four. Tom Glavine has to be too, right?

Tom Servo
09-14-2020, 09:09 PM
I get WHY you need to go to a de Leon with how the pen has been taxed but it exposes the weakness of having guys like him and Romano on the roster. Eventually you need to use them in non mop-up roles.

RedTeamGo!
09-14-2020, 09:09 PM
Good thing Casali was calling the game or it might have been a short night for Disco.

There’s just no way Stephenson could have caught this start by Disco. Crazy to even think so.

JFLegal
09-14-2020, 09:09 PM
it's disco gets demolished night. again?

Kingspoint
09-14-2020, 09:09 PM
When does he start throwing strikes to the .179 hitter?

podgejeff_
09-14-2020, 09:09 PM
I think you only got one, Jaxred did much better.

Figures.

zigbeenuthouse
09-14-2020, 09:09 PM
DeLeon on and I hope he has no gasoline in his pocket...Clubber looking to CLUB

He's got a match now ready to throw on that can of gas....

Kingspoint
09-14-2020, 09:10 PM
Well, that was effective.

Jomama
09-14-2020, 09:10 PM
Well, better give Bell the credit for PH Stephenson for Akiyama in game one for win. We'll go with this judgement on whom to start game two.

Bell’s track record speaks for itself...even a broken clock is right twice a day.

RedTeamGo!
09-14-2020, 09:10 PM
David Bell after game 1: FINALLY we have some fire on this team. Everyone is really excited. I better do my absolute best to douse this immediately.

zigbeenuthouse
09-14-2020, 09:10 PM
3 batter rule in effect.....can they fake an injury?

Tom Servo
09-14-2020, 09:10 PM
There’s just no way Stephenson could have caught this start by Disco. Crazy to even think so.
Yeah this game is being lost because of the Casali/Stephenson thing, not Disco ****ting the bed.

This is a real “when all you have is a hammer” situation my man. You wanna hammer them for not playing your boy, so you ignore the obvious and blame the abstract.

Big Klu
09-14-2020, 09:11 PM
What was the exact wording of the trivia question? Because I'm starting to think there are more than four pitchers who are 10-time All-Stars.

Jomama
09-14-2020, 09:11 PM
Starting a player in the second game of a double header because he hit a homer in the first game is what High School managers do, not MLB managers.

So you're saying that David Bell should have done it...

Kingspoint
09-14-2020, 09:11 PM
So Daniel Jones constructs an 18-play drive that gets the Giants down to the Steelers 4 yard line....and then he throws an interception.

podgejeff_
09-14-2020, 09:12 PM
Good thing Casali was calling the game or it might have been a short night for Disco.

You know I did start that with "while I generally agree".

You'll also see later how I declared Tyler Stephenson a future hall of famer.

Red Raindog
09-14-2020, 09:12 PM
Ah
The convenient injury


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Big Klu
09-14-2020, 09:12 PM
3 batter rule in effect.....can they fake an injury?

According to Jim Day last night, if a pitcher comes out of the game before reaching the three-batter limit, he must go on the DL.

Kingspoint
09-14-2020, 09:12 PM
3 batter rule in effect.....can they fake an injury?

So, how come he only had to face two batters?

RedTeamGo!
09-14-2020, 09:12 PM
Yeah this game is being lost because of the Casali/Stephenson thing, not Disco ****ting the bed.

This is a real “when all you have is a hammer” situation my man. You wanna hammer them for not playing your boy, so you ignore the obvious and blame the abstract.

That’s not the point. I was dragged for even thinking it didn’t matter if Stephenson started over Casali at the last minute after the potential season changing home run. Many said Disco went through the whole day planning to pitch to Casali.

Clearly it doesn’t matter who catches Disco. Mediocrity is going to mediocre.

Tom Servo
09-14-2020, 09:13 PM
According to Jim Day last night, if a pitcher comes out of the game before reaching the three-batter limit, he must go on the DL.
Ah so a win/win here.

TexasRedsFan
09-14-2020, 09:13 PM
De Leon exiting due to injury. Suspected diagnosis is his suck flared up again.

Kingspoint
09-14-2020, 09:13 PM
According to Jim Day last night, if a pitcher comes out of the game before reaching the three-batter limit, he must go on the DL.

Convenient.

podgejeff_
09-14-2020, 09:13 PM
Yeah. I'm fairly confident I have more than one right if it's just 10 time all stars. I might have missed something but I have no idea where to go to look up scoreboard stumpers after they're put up on the screen for 10 seconds.

JaxRed
09-14-2020, 09:13 PM
Why DeLeon here? He'll I'd rather have Romano. Isn't he still active?

I'm one step ahead of Bell

zigbeenuthouse
09-14-2020, 09:13 PM
Bell’s track record speaks for itself...even a broken clock is right twice a day.

Like any manager you give credit for when credit is due and you can second guess or blast in situations where he fails.

Kingspoint
09-14-2020, 09:15 PM
Love the "injury delay" words on mlb.com.

zigbeenuthouse
09-14-2020, 09:15 PM
So, how come he only had to face two batters?

Bell effed up?

Big Klu
09-14-2020, 09:15 PM
So Daniel Jones constructs an 18-play drive that gets the Giants down to the Steelers 4 yard line....and then he throws an interception.

If you have Saquon Barkley, why are you throwing the ball when you are on the opponent's 4-yard-line?

zigbeenuthouse
09-14-2020, 09:16 PM
Deleon exits taking the can of gas is brought out there with him. Lets hope the next guy has some extinguisher to use...

kaldaniels
09-14-2020, 09:16 PM
Season on the brink.

Sal Romano?

Tom Servo
09-14-2020, 09:17 PM
That’s not the point. I was dragged for even thinking it didn’t matter if Stephenson started over Casali at the last minute after the potential season changing home run. Many said Disco went through the whole day planning to pitch to Casali.

Clearly it doesn’t matter who catches Disco. Mediocrity is going to mediocre.
You were dragged for throwing a tantrum over Stephenson not immediately jumping ahead of Casali in line because of the HR he hit like a half hour before the next game started. You did the same with Garcia, and Aquino to a lesser extent. I like these players, particularly Stephenson, but none of them at this point are like a Gavin Lux prospect who is almost GUARANTEED to be a game changer day in and out. At a certain point it just feels like complaining for the sake of complaining, it's not like we aren't going to see a LOT of Garcia and Stephenson moving forward.

Red Raindog
09-14-2020, 09:17 PM
The Romano I remember


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Coopdaddy67
09-14-2020, 09:17 PM
Hey Sal, you don't get points for hitting him.

Rantly
09-14-2020, 09:17 PM
What was the exact wording of the trivia question? Because I'm starting to think there are more than four pitchers who are 10-time All-Stars.
I thought it was 5 pitchers who have made 10 or more all-star games

CySeymour
09-14-2020, 09:17 PM
Wouldn’t AG be the obvious option here?

757690
09-14-2020, 09:17 PM
This could get ugly.

kaldaniels
09-14-2020, 09:18 PM
Never in doubt.

Kingspoint
09-14-2020, 09:18 PM
Ramano probably won't give up a hit. He doesn't know where the plate it.

Coopdaddy67
09-14-2020, 09:18 PM
Everybody can breathe now.

Alabama Red
09-14-2020, 09:18 PM
Nice job by Romano.

NC Reds
09-14-2020, 09:19 PM
Sal gets out of it. Let’s get some runs.

Ron Madden
09-14-2020, 09:19 PM
Need at least a run here

TheBigLebowski
09-14-2020, 09:19 PM
There is no baseball situation with a good ending that involves DeLeon. And dumbbell uses him in a high leverage spot.

It’s maddening. This is the most aggravating season I can recall. I really hope they blow up and retool it with better

Kingspoint
09-14-2020, 09:19 PM
Ramano probably won't give up a hit. He doesn't know where the plate it.

I'll take that back. He was just backing him off the plate. Pretty dangerous with the bases loaded. Gutsy pitching to go five pitches inside with the bases loaded. Glad he didn't try to get cute and just used his best pitch the whole time.

Patrick Bateman
09-14-2020, 09:20 PM
That’s not the point. I was dragged for even thinking it didn’t matter if Stephenson started over Casali at the last minute after the potential season changing home run. Many said Disco went through the whole day planning to pitch to Casali.

Clearly it doesn’t matter who catches Disco. Mediocrity is going to mediocre.

Reading comprehension matters.


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zigbeenuthouse
09-14-2020, 09:20 PM
Sal Salvaged that inning to keep a bonfire from exploding.

JFLegal
09-14-2020, 09:20 PM
i didn't even know sal romano was still alive. and there he is getting a key out.

podgejeff_
09-14-2020, 09:21 PM
i didn't even know sal romano was still alive. and there he is getting a key out.

In other news, I'm glad that Sal Romano is still alive.

kaldaniels
09-14-2020, 09:21 PM
Nice job by Romano.

Good outcome. Could have easily been a HBP RBI.

Kingspoint
09-14-2020, 09:21 PM
Season on the brink.

Sal Romano?

When you go to your next "Managing Major League Baseball 101 by David Bell", remember to take good notes.

:laugh:

NC Reds
09-14-2020, 09:22 PM
Shogo with the knock.

podgejeff_
09-14-2020, 09:22 PM
Shogo grounds it up the middle.

Something tells me the Pirates expect him to steal.

Ron Madden
09-14-2020, 09:22 PM
Four pitchers have been selected for the All-Star game in more than 10 seasons. Who are they?

more than 10 seasons

The Operator
09-14-2020, 09:23 PM
Dammit I thought that was fair

Stray
09-14-2020, 09:23 PM
so close

Rojo Rijo
09-14-2020, 09:23 PM
Come on Nick do something for us

Sigh......

Big Klu
09-14-2020, 09:23 PM
I thought it was 5 pitchers who have made 10 or more all-star games

If it's five, the I want to add Randy Johnson.

Warren Spahn
Bob Gibson
Tom Seaver
Randy Johnson
Mariano Rivera

Kingspoint
09-14-2020, 09:23 PM
If you have Saquon Barkley, why are you throwing the ball when you are on the opponent's 4-yard-line?

I'm guessing because Barkley had 7 yards on 14 carries. Would have taken him 8 plays to get in and it was 1st down.

The Operator
09-14-2020, 09:24 PM
Four pitchers have been selected for the All-Star game in more than 10 seasons. Who are they?

more than 10 seasons
Nolan Ryan, Greg Maddux, Tom Glavine, Steve Carlton?

kaldaniels
09-14-2020, 09:24 PM
It goes without saying silence will be expected from some if Nick comes up with a big hit tonight.

Kingspoint
09-14-2020, 09:25 PM
If it's five, the I want to add Randy Jonhson.

Warren Spahn
Bob Gibson
Tom Seaver
Randy Jonhson
Mariano Rivera

Wonder if Bert Blylevan would have been an automatic for those Minnesota teams?

Ron Madden
09-14-2020, 09:25 PM
If it's five, the I want to add Randy Jonhson.

Warren Spahn
Bob Gibson
Tom Seaver
Randy Jonhson
Mariano Rivera

Four pitchers have been selected for the All-Star game in more than 10 seasons. Who are they?

More than 10 seasons

Tom Servo
09-14-2020, 09:25 PM
Derek Holland is absolutely the type of pitcher you need to abuse.

Stray
09-14-2020, 09:25 PM
nice base running from shogo

podgejeff_
09-14-2020, 09:25 PM
Passed ball? advances Shogo.

kaldaniels
09-14-2020, 09:25 PM
Whoa whoa whoa

Ironman92
09-14-2020, 09:25 PM
If you have Saquon Barkley, why are you throwing the ball when you are on the opponent's 4-yard-line?

Because they had -7 yards rushing in first half

Coopdaddy67
09-14-2020, 09:25 PM
Dear God.

Ron Madden
09-14-2020, 09:25 PM
That pitch was inside!

kaldaniels
09-14-2020, 09:25 PM
Damn it Nick was all over Holland.

The Operator
09-14-2020, 09:26 PM
That was a garbage strike call


Take balls and strikes away from human umpires

Stray
09-14-2020, 09:26 PM
that wasn't even close

Tom Servo
09-14-2020, 09:26 PM
Real bad call

Patrick Bateman
09-14-2020, 09:26 PM
Cast had a great at bat. Crushed two pitches, and took 3 balls.


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podgejeff_
09-14-2020, 09:26 PM
The ump made a terrible call?

This is my surprised face.

Patrick Bateman
09-14-2020, 09:27 PM
Like the catcher moved that a foot and didn’t think it was a strike.


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kaldaniels
09-14-2020, 09:27 PM
As far as snap judgments go Goodwin seems like a good dude based on that FSO promo.

The Operator
09-14-2020, 09:27 PM
Every proponent of humans calling balls and strikes that I know loves to tout the “human element” and “batters adjusting to the strike zone”, yada yada.


How the hell is a batter supposed to adjust to a call that bad?

Rantly
09-14-2020, 09:27 PM
Four pitchers have been selected for the All-Star game in more than 10 seasons. Who are they?

More than 10 seasons
I missed the”more than”

Kingspoint
09-14-2020, 09:27 PM
That pitch was inside!

Only about 4-6 inches off the plate, but who's counting? Being facetious, here.

Coopdaddy67
09-14-2020, 09:28 PM
The ump made a terrible call?

This is my surprised face.

I could understand if it was just a terrible call, but it was shockingly bad.

Alabama Red
09-14-2020, 09:28 PM
Laz Diaz is awful.

Big Klu
09-14-2020, 09:28 PM
Wonder if Bert Blylevan would have been an automatic for those Minnesota teams?

Those Minnesota teams also had guys like Jim Kaat, Jim Perry, and Mudcat Grant.

Big Klu
09-14-2020, 09:29 PM
I missed the”more than”

"More than..."

I stand with Warren Spahn, Tom Seaver, and Mariano Rivera, but now I have to give the fourth one some more thought.

kaldaniels
09-14-2020, 09:30 PM
Nik?

I’ll allow it and respect if it’s an ethnic spelling. But if it’s a bro spelling...

zigbeenuthouse
09-14-2020, 09:31 PM
Base Hit please.

MrRedSkull
09-14-2020, 09:31 PM
"More than..."

I stand with Warren Spahn, Tom Seaver, and Mariano Rivera, but now I have to give the fourth one some more thought.

Roger Clemens has more than 10. I’d guess Maddux, too.

Coopdaddy67
09-14-2020, 09:32 PM
That's just plain nasty for a lefty, which makes the Castellanos missed call hurt that much more.

kaldaniels
09-14-2020, 09:33 PM
Wants no part of Geno.

Ron Madden
09-14-2020, 09:33 PM
Geno walks

Alabama Red
09-14-2020, 09:33 PM
Moose won’t even have a chance against this guy.

Coopdaddy67
09-14-2020, 09:33 PM
Intentional walk.

The Operator
09-14-2020, 09:33 PM
Come on Moose

Kingspoint
09-14-2020, 09:34 PM
Wouldn't Curt Schilling have 11?

- - - Updated - - -

I don't think Rany Johnson made an All-Star game until he was at least 30 years old.

zigbeenuthouse
09-14-2020, 09:35 PM
Reds paid big dough for moments like this with FA money.

Ironman92
09-14-2020, 09:35 PM
Spahn
Rivera
Carlton
Clemens

The Operator
09-14-2020, 09:35 PM
Mooooooose!!!!

kaldaniels
09-14-2020, 09:36 PM
Moose won’t even have a chance against this guy.

Facial.

The Operator
09-14-2020, 09:36 PM
Moose won’t even have a chance against this guy.

This aged poorly

Coopdaddy67
09-14-2020, 09:36 PM
BOOM!

Capitalized off a huge mistake pitch.

NC Reds
09-14-2020, 09:36 PM
Moose!

Ron Madden
09-14-2020, 09:36 PM
Moose 3 run bomb!!!

podgejeff_
09-14-2020, 09:36 PM
https://media4.giphy.com/media/PjOHE76srQkzWbRN7Y/giphy-downsized-large.gif

Stray
09-14-2020, 09:36 PM
MOOSE!

Alabama Red
09-14-2020, 09:36 PM
Good lord I was wrong. Way to go moose.

Reds Fanatic
09-14-2020, 09:36 PM
Moose!!!

Tom Servo
09-14-2020, 09:36 PM
Mooooooosse

mbgrayson
09-14-2020, 09:36 PM
Moose!!!

Ironman92
09-14-2020, 09:36 PM
Yes

Tom Servo
09-14-2020, 09:37 PM
Good lord I was wrong. Way to go moose.
Never admit wrongdoing, say you were doing the IronMan thing of saying something overtly negative to try and yield a positive result.

Red Raindog
09-14-2020, 09:37 PM
Moose attack!


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Kc61
09-14-2020, 09:37 PM
I called that Moose homer.

Ok, it was the first game, but I’m taking credit for the whole darn thing.

Kingspoint
09-14-2020, 09:37 PM
Laying off that 2nd pitch, the low fastball that was supposed to be a strike, but he left it out of the strike zone and didn't get the ump to give it to him, set up Moose for the next pitch. Super at-bat there setting up the 3rd pitch. If Moose swings at that 2nd pitch, it goes to 1-1, and he doesn't see a fastball down the middle there, but instead some curveball out of the zone.