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Ron Madden
09-15-2020, 03:36 PM
First Pitch 6:40PM

Reds
1. Shogo Akiyama (L) LF
2. Nick Castellanos (R) RF
3. Joey Votto (L) 1B
4. Jesse Winker (L) DH
5. Mike Moustakas (L) 3B
6. Brian Goodwin (L) CF
7. Freddy Galvis (S) 2B
8. Jose Garcia (R) SS
9. Tucker Barnhart (L) C
SP Michael Lorenzen (R)


Pirates
1. Erik Gonzalez (R) SS
2. Bryan Reynolds (S) LF
3. Ke'Bryan Hayes (R) 3B
4. Colin Moran (L) 1B
5. Josh Bell (S) DH
6. Gregory Polanco (L) RF
7. Cole Tucker (S) CF
8. JT Riddle (L) 2B
9. Jacob Stallings (R) C
SP Joe Musgrove (R)

Alabama Red
09-15-2020, 03:46 PM
Good to see Winker back.

RedlegJ
09-15-2020, 04:09 PM
Stephenson just can't do enough to get in

HammerTime
09-15-2020, 04:15 PM
Mark Sheldon @m_sheldon
Suarez scratched. Leaving for paternity time. Moustakas will start at 3B and Galvis starting at 2B. Aquino is back on the active roster. #reds

Hamilton95
09-15-2020, 04:16 PM
Stephenson just can't do enough to get in

Home run in first ever ab. Threw out Billy Hamilton in first ever start. Next start he hits a walk off home run...Going to be very interesting with Lorenzen starting...

HammerTime
09-15-2020, 04:16 PM
Stephenson just can't do enough to get in

My guess is he is going to a platoon type approach with the catchers in this game. (I hope)

Ron Madden
09-15-2020, 04:25 PM
Bobby Nightengale
@nightengalejr
Eugenio Suarez was placed on the paternity list. Aristides Aquino is back on the active roster for tonight.
Mike Moustakas will play 3B tonight and Freddy Galvis will start at 2B. #Reds

Mitri
09-15-2020, 04:28 PM
My guess is he is going to a platoon type approach with the catchers in this game. (I hope)

I think it may be with Lorenzen starting, the pitchers are gonna need all the help behind the plate they can get. I suppose the thought is, Tucker squeezes more out of bad pitchers.

My thought is, Stephenson's bat more than makes up for it.

Rolando
09-15-2020, 05:15 PM
I think it may be with Lorenzen starting, the pitchers are gonna need all the help behind the plate they can get. I suppose the thought is, Tucker squeezes more out of bad pitchers.

My thought is, Stephenson's bat more than makes up for it.

I agree that Stephenson need to play especially tonight because more than likely they're going to score a fair amount of runs to win. I'm rooting hard for the Reds to win tonight but I got to be honest that lineup looks like the type you run out in meaningless September baseball

forfreelin04
09-15-2020, 05:38 PM
Has Nick C had an off day so far this year? Dude could use one in the worst way.

CaiGuy
09-15-2020, 05:38 PM
With Stephenson I am guessing it's just a case of easing him in. I imagine there is a lot that goes into preparing for a game for a catcher. They have a big impact on the pitching strategy and likely have to do some homework, strategy with coaching, maybe meet with the starter, etc.

He's probably up learning from the more experienced guys and getting his feet wet.

With Garcia and SS it's different...he doesn't have any direct impact on pitching strategy and doesn't have deal with any of this.

Kc61
09-15-2020, 06:02 PM
I agree that Stephenson need to play especially tonight because more than likely they're going to score a fair amount of runs to win. I'm rooting hard for the Reds to win tonight but I got to be honest that lineup looks like the type you run out in meaningless September baseball

Thatís all Lorenzen needs is a rookie catcher who may never have worked with him before.

Weíre not talking about a pitcher who has everything under control these days.

RedTeamGo!
09-15-2020, 06:08 PM
Not going to say anything

Rolando
09-15-2020, 06:15 PM
That’s all Lorenzen needs is a rookie catcher who may never have worked with him before.

We’re not talking about a pitcher who has everything under control these days.

Well then he has no business starting the game. Michael arenson has been in a big league since 2015. If he needs Tucker Barnhart the old his hand then I hope at the end of the year he is non-tendered. Because that's embarrassing

zigbeenuthouse
09-15-2020, 06:48 PM
I would GUESS that Stephenson would do just fine behind the plate and probably add good bit to the offense. Seeing these games are crucial I would also GUESS Bell is worried Stephenson could mess up and cost them with pitches, etc? Trying to look at all angles. I will add Stephenson has a gun in throwing out runners so that should not be a concern. It's Bell's job here so he will win or lose with his choices.

Kc61
09-15-2020, 07:07 PM
Well then he has no business starting the game. Michael arenson has been in a big league since 2015. If he needs Tucker Barnhart the old his hand then I hope at the end of the year he is non-tendered. Because that's embarrassing

Lorenzen isn’t a starter and has a 5.23 ERA out of the bullpen. It’s sub-optimal, an emergency situation and the Reds/fans can only hope he finds himself tonight.

Why have Lorenzen - of all “starting” pitchers - work with a rookie catcher?

It’s not embarrassing, it’s the result of injuries to Miley and Gray with few good, experienced starters available.

Ironman92
09-15-2020, 07:32 PM
Letís win

Redeye fly
09-15-2020, 07:48 PM
Nice play by Galvis to end the inning.

Reds Freak
09-15-2020, 07:49 PM
Lorenzen with a quick inning. Looked more under control in that inning than he usually does as a reliever. He seems to want to top 100 with every pitch and has no idea where it's headed.

adkindo
09-15-2020, 07:49 PM
Let’s win

like to throw up 5 or 6 runs early....

podgejeff_
09-15-2020, 07:51 PM
Our newfound onbase machine Shogo does it again.

zigbeenuthouse
09-15-2020, 07:51 PM
Lorenzen had sub 3 ERA last year. But this year he just could not get the traction. He may be suited for starting. Lets see how he does tonight. Good start.

AKIYAMA another hit.

adkindo
09-15-2020, 07:51 PM
expect Shogo to get a better start next season

podgejeff_
09-15-2020, 07:52 PM
expect Shogo to get a better start next season

It's clear Shogo just needed that adjustment period.

He's got serious plate and bat discipline.

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Cast makes a bloop.

podgejeff_
09-15-2020, 07:56 PM
Votto pulls a classic Votto and loads the bases with a walk.

No outs.

Ironman92
09-15-2020, 07:57 PM
Donít roll one over

podgejeff_
09-15-2020, 07:57 PM
https://media4.giphy.com/media/krewXUB6LBja/giphy.gif

adkindo
09-15-2020, 07:57 PM
we need to take advantage of this and not settle for a run

NebraskaRed
09-15-2020, 07:57 PM
Probably not how Winker envisioned his return.

mhs95_06
09-15-2020, 07:58 PM
Don’t roll one over

He did it so bad, it didn't go far enough for two!

NebraskaRed
09-15-2020, 07:59 PM
I mean, home runs are great but not every swing needs to be that kind of swing.

Coopdaddy67
09-15-2020, 07:59 PM
Is that the same foot?

Stray
09-15-2020, 07:59 PM
I'll take it

podgejeff_
09-15-2020, 07:59 PM
Moose takes yet another pitch in the same spot on his foot.

But we're winning!

Yay?

mhs95_06
09-15-2020, 08:00 PM
RBI, but did how bad did he re-injure his foot?

Kc61
09-15-2020, 08:00 PM
Good speed on the bases?

NebraskaRed
09-15-2020, 08:01 PM
Good speed on the bases?

https://media.giphy.com/media/Ze3RpHue7qkwvcYOOf/giphy.gif

Ironman92
09-15-2020, 08:01 PM
Amateur AB by Winker

adkindo
09-15-2020, 08:01 PM
atleast we got 2....that was the minimum

podgejeff_
09-15-2020, 08:02 PM
Goodwin lines one right at the RF, but it's good enough to get Votto in.

zigbeenuthouse
09-15-2020, 08:04 PM
I like the patience the Reds have shown in last few games. MUCH improved.

adkindo
09-15-2020, 08:04 PM
not the best of timing for Geno....have to wait until mid to late February to "initiate" the process

podgejeff_
09-15-2020, 08:05 PM
Galvis makes a run scoring bloop, brings Winker home!

What are we the Cards now?

adkindo
09-15-2020, 08:05 PM
heck yeah Galvis....great start!

adkindo
09-15-2020, 08:06 PM
Galvis makes a run scoring bloop, brings Winker home!

What are we the Cards now?

listened to part of game last night on radio, and I think they claimed our last 20+ runs scored were a result of the HR?

RedTeamGo!
09-15-2020, 08:07 PM
The reds are going. What do I do with my hands?

adkindo
09-15-2020, 08:08 PM
I did not think it appeared he went?

podgejeff_
09-15-2020, 08:08 PM
27 pitches for Musgrove through 1 inning.

https://media1.tenor.com/images/ef7be8cc1b63bef342335b456c275462/tenor.gif?itemid=5119238

zigbeenuthouse
09-15-2020, 08:08 PM
Garcia learning lessons for sure.

Ironman92
09-15-2020, 08:08 PM
Good Lord Garcia? 0-2...think you are getting something good?

Tremendous AB by Galvis...love it [emoji122][emoji122][emoji122][emoji122]

Reds Freak
09-15-2020, 08:10 PM
listened to part of game last night on radio, and I think they claimed our last 20+ runs scored were a result of the HR?

I thought they said that was the last 20 runs they'd scored against the Pirates. People are calling those hits bloops but those were all great pieces of hitting, taking the ball where it was pitched. Love seeing them move the down the line and score runs without the long ball.

podgejeff_
09-15-2020, 08:11 PM
I thought they said that was the last 20 runs they'd scored against the Pirates. People are calling those hits bloops but those were all great pieces of hitting, taking the ball where it was pitched. Love seeing them move the down the line and score runs without the long ball.

I think I'm the only one calling them bloops.

Mainly because I like the word bloop.

mhs95_06
09-15-2020, 08:11 PM
Got a good working margin for a lead, but can we hold it thru 9 innings?

adkindo
09-15-2020, 08:11 PM
I thought they said that was the last 20 runs they'd scored against the Pirates. People are calling those hits bloops but those were all great pieces of hitting, taking the ball where it was pitched. Love seeing them move the down the line and score runs without the long ball.

ok, I must have misunderstood

podgejeff_
09-15-2020, 08:12 PM
We're on pace to score 27 runs.

adkindo
09-15-2020, 08:13 PM
I guess it is still a couple weeks away...but have to wonder if they will even be able to play games on the West Coast for playoffs.....some of those images of the air look terrible

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We're on pace to score 27 runs.

close that run differential

podgejeff_
09-15-2020, 08:14 PM
Lorenzen's bringing that bicep power tonight.

NebraskaRed
09-15-2020, 08:15 PM
Looking good so far!

Reds Freak
09-15-2020, 08:16 PM
I think I'm the only one calling them bloops.

Mainly because I like the word bloop.

Haha okay, fair enough. I'll take those bloops all day.

adkindo
09-15-2020, 08:16 PM
sure it has been discussed on board somewhere...but Votto is on pace for a 30 HR season if it was 162 after not hitting 30 in the last 2 seasons combined....that has to be abnormal for someone at his age to rediscover power?

Ron Madden
09-15-2020, 08:17 PM
Barnhart!!!

podgejeff_
09-15-2020, 08:17 PM
Barnhart BIG FLY!

adkindo
09-15-2020, 08:17 PM
Haha okay, fair enough. I'll take those bloops all day.

I think they can be even more demoralizing for a pitcher than the HR sometimes....just watching guys continue to get on base and advance compared to one big hit

Stray
09-15-2020, 08:18 PM
holy crap that was crushed

NebraskaRed
09-15-2020, 08:18 PM
Tucker!

adkindo
09-15-2020, 08:18 PM
the kid is pushing him

Kc61
09-15-2020, 08:19 PM
Tyler Stephenson wold have hit it one foot further, I guess.

podgejeff_
09-15-2020, 08:20 PM
Laz Diaz sucks at his job.

Ron Madden
09-15-2020, 08:20 PM
Castellanos Double!

Patrick Bateman
09-15-2020, 08:20 PM
Bell should be FIRED on the spot for starting Barnhart today.


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adkindo
09-15-2020, 08:21 PM
I never expected a ton or HR's....but I did expect more of those deep gap doubles this year from Nick

podgejeff_
09-15-2020, 08:21 PM
Cast double in the gap.

podgejeff_
09-15-2020, 08:22 PM
Lord, Musgrove is their #1?

Wow.

Reds Freak
09-15-2020, 08:24 PM
I think I'm the only one calling them bloops.

Mainly because I like the word bloop.

And I assume you'd call Barnhart's a cheap, GABP special? :beerme:

adkindo
09-15-2020, 08:25 PM
has there been any word on how many innings we hope to get from Lorenzen tonight?

kaldaniels
09-15-2020, 08:25 PM
I think they’ve acquired the taste of winning.

podgejeff_
09-15-2020, 08:26 PM
And I assume you'd call Barnhart's a cheap, GABP special? :beerme:

Weirdly enough, according to Statcast a ball hit at 104.9 exit velo with that launch angle of 20 degrees is only a hit 89% of the time.

Where is that not a home run?

Roy Tucker
09-15-2020, 08:27 PM
Like seeing Galvis back up that throw that got past Votto.

zigbeenuthouse
09-15-2020, 08:28 PM
Pirates take umbrage over Tucker Barnhart admiring his blast.

adkindo
09-15-2020, 08:31 PM
Like seeing Galvis back up that throw that got past Votto.

not sure if he is able to land a starting job again....but if he does, I would think it is at second base. I like him at 2nd much more than SS

Roy Tucker
09-15-2020, 08:31 PM
Pirates take umbrage at Votto picking his nose. They need to chill.

Redeye fly
09-15-2020, 08:31 PM
sure it has been discussed on board somewhere...but Votto is on pace for a 30 HR season if it was 162 after not hitting 30 in the last 2 seasons combined....that has to be abnormal for someone at his age to rediscover power?
The whole season of course is abnormal. But I don't think we're expecting top level play out of Votto at this stage of his career and life. But it's really weird to me how drastic the gap is between his play at home and on the road. Playing at a MVP level at home and playing like a guy that never should have reached the majors on the road.

But overall yeah. Although some of the loss of power the past couple of years was believed to be due to back issues.

podgejeff_
09-15-2020, 08:32 PM
Pirates take umbrage over Tucker Barnhart admiring his blast.

Someone should inform them that Amir Garrett is still on the team and can run across that outfield at any time.

NebraskaRed
09-15-2020, 08:32 PM
The strongman has three strong innings.

Redeye fly
09-15-2020, 08:34 PM
Someone should inform them that Amir Garrett is still on the team and can run across that outfield at any time.

And of course someone should also remind them that although we unfortunately did too decent of a job keeping them competitive against us recently, they are still the Pirates and if they didn't suck so bad they wouldn't have to take umbrage over such things so often.

Roy Tucker
09-15-2020, 08:35 PM
Looking at Moustakas’ helmet and bat, he like his pine tar.

podgejeff_
09-15-2020, 08:36 PM
I hate the Pirates.

But Ke'Bryan Hayes is gonna be a star.

NebraskaRed
09-15-2020, 08:39 PM
The Reds need to keep their foot on the gas. Maybe 4 runs will be enough to win it, but don't count on it.

adkindo
09-15-2020, 08:40 PM
Looking at Moustakas’ helmet and bat, he like his pine tar.

never understood the helmet thing....I use to think the helmets like that were burned with a flame to look like that, then someone told me it was pine tar....what is the point?

Big Klu
09-15-2020, 08:40 PM
Like seeing Galvis back up that throw that got past Votto.


not sure if he is able to land a starting job again....but if he does, I would think it is at second base. I like him at 2nd much more than SS

I get a Mariano Duncan vibe from Galvis -- serviceable at SS, but better suited to 2B.

Ron Madden
09-15-2020, 08:41 PM
Joel Luckhaupt
@jluckhaupt
Besides needing wins, sweeping the Pirates will help the Reds playoff chances as the first tie-breaker between non-division opponents is intra-division record. (For division opponents it's head-to-head)

Reds are 17-18 in NLC. Need to win as many of the last 5 as they can.

adkindo
09-15-2020, 08:42 PM
that would suck to miss the postseason because of a tiebreaker metric

zigbeenuthouse
09-15-2020, 08:42 PM
Reds need to keep pounding Pirates but I'd not give them any incentive to play harder.

NebraskaRed
09-15-2020, 08:44 PM
Once again, Moran is history's greatest monster.

zigbeenuthouse
09-15-2020, 08:44 PM
Be careful with Bell....Clubber can make this a game.

podgejeff_
09-15-2020, 08:44 PM
Colin Moran terrifies small children and household pets.

mth123
09-15-2020, 08:45 PM
never understood the helmet thing....I use to think the helmets like that were burned with a flame to look like that, then someone told me it was pine tar....what is the point?

He uses the pine tar on his bat to get a better grip. Once he holds the bat, he gets it on his hands. Then he touches his helmet. He's not putting it on his helmet for any reason.

Big Klu
09-15-2020, 08:47 PM
Like seeing Galvis back up that throw that got past Votto.


never understood the helmet thing....I use to think the helmets like that were burned with a flame to look like that, then someone told me it was pine tar....what is the point?

Seems to me that Craig Biggio in Houston was one of the first players to do it, followed by several members of the Red Sox in the 00's. The idea is that if the batter needs some extra grip, then all he needs to do is touch the top of his head to get some pine tar, instead of calling time and going back to the on-deck circle.

Roy Tucker
09-15-2020, 08:47 PM
Ugh. Bad luck. Tell the groundskeeper to get the rakes out.

mth123
09-15-2020, 08:48 PM
Seems to me that Craig Biggio in Houston was one of the first players to do it, followed by several members of the Red Sox in the 00's. The idea is that if the batter needs some extra grip, then all he needs to do is touch the top of his head to get some pine tar, instead of calling time and going back to the on-deck circle.

I Stand corrected.

mhs95_06
09-15-2020, 08:49 PM
Ugh. Bad luck. Tell the groundskeeper to get the takes out.

How about Joey stays on the bag and Lorenzen fields the ball, forcing Bell to run on the correct side of the baseline, and Lorenzen throws him out at first.

zigbeenuthouse
09-15-2020, 08:49 PM
Lorenzen fools around and walks guys and this is his bane. Then everything else he throws is straight and it gets hammered. Nice K there with Polanco. Get this guy and lets move to the bottom of 4.

podgejeff_
09-15-2020, 08:49 PM
Going by average, Polanco is a sucker for literally every pitch.

Mitri
09-15-2020, 08:49 PM
I would bring in Antone now.

Roy Tucker
09-15-2020, 08:50 PM
I wouldn’t have Lorenzen on a long leash here.

NebraskaRed
09-15-2020, 08:51 PM
The strongman is tired.

zigbeenuthouse
09-15-2020, 08:51 PM
Whew!!! Lets ADD ON!

Mitri
09-15-2020, 08:52 PM
Nice job by Lorenzen, I didn't expect this much. Now hopefully Antone can go 2 and the rest can be micromanaged.

Reds Freak
09-15-2020, 08:53 PM
I think I give Lorenzen a chance to get through 8-9-1 next inning but no way should he face the Hayes-Moran-Bell trio again.

Roy Tucker
09-15-2020, 08:54 PM
26Mb per second for Internet? I used to use a 1200 baud modem dialup with a VT220.

Kc61
09-15-2020, 08:54 PM
I think I give Lorenzen a chance to get through 8-9-1 next inning but no way should he face the Hayes-Moran-Bell trio again.

I expect Antone on the mound in the fifth.

Lorenzen is a relief pitcher, he’s thrown 60 pitches.

adkindo
09-15-2020, 08:55 PM
Seems to me that Craig Biggio in Houston was one of the first players to do it, followed by several members of the Red Sox in the 00's. The idea is that if the batter needs some extra grip, then all he needs to do is touch the top of his head to get some pine tar, instead of calling time and going back to the on-deck circle.

I think it was that Johnny Damon Red Sox team when I first noticed it....called themselves the idiots and beat the Cardinals. My friend at work was a big Cardinals fan, and I recall him being annoyed by it.

podgejeff_
09-15-2020, 08:56 PM
Shogo legs out a great defensive play by Hayes.

adkindo
09-15-2020, 08:56 PM
it was clear the third baseman was taking too long

Ron Madden
09-15-2020, 08:56 PM
Shogo infield hit!

NebraskaRed
09-15-2020, 08:56 PM
Shogo goes again

Mitri
09-15-2020, 08:57 PM
Is Shogo elite?

Roy Tucker
09-15-2020, 08:57 PM
Hayes la-dee-dahed that one a beat too long.

Good hustle by Akiyama.

mhs95_06
09-15-2020, 08:58 PM
Shogo's speed, like the Cardinal's hustle, puts pressure on the defense and pays off!

Mitri
09-15-2020, 08:59 PM
I wonder if Shogo being on base so much is messing with Castellanos' focus?

Ron Madden
09-15-2020, 09:01 PM
C'mon Nick, make him throw strikes

adkindo
09-15-2020, 09:02 PM
very early, but Braun and Yelich went deep in the 1st....Brewers up 2-1 over Cardinals in 2nd

Kc61
09-15-2020, 09:02 PM
Shogo is refreshing to watch. He actually draws throws to first. Hits to all fields.

Hope he does even better as time goes on.

Roy Tucker
09-15-2020, 09:02 PM
Not to beat a dead horse, but I like the Reds’ telecasts a lot better now without Thom. That little aside by Welsh about young man’s game would have never happened with Thom there. Thom would have blathered all over Welsh and broken up the flow.

NebraskaRed
09-15-2020, 09:03 PM
Not to beat a dead horse, but I like the Reds’ telecasts a lot better now without Thom. That little aside by Welsh about young man’s game would have never happened with Thom there. Thom would have blathered all over Welsh and broken up the flow.

There's more life to the conversations. They seem more relaxed.

podgejeff_
09-15-2020, 09:04 PM
According to Statcast, Lorenzen is throwing a 6 pitch mix right now.

Ron Madden
09-15-2020, 09:04 PM
5 K's for Lorenzen

adkindo
09-15-2020, 09:06 PM
really surprised he going 5 innings....I would be shocked if they allowed him to go 6

Roy Tucker
09-15-2020, 09:06 PM
There's more life to the conversations. They seem more relaxed.

Yep. I agree.

Ron Madden
09-15-2020, 09:08 PM
Good Job Mike!!!

mhs95_06
09-15-2020, 09:08 PM
Low and away breaking ball, Castellanos bane!

NebraskaRed
09-15-2020, 09:08 PM
Couldn't ask for more out of Mikey.

Mitri
09-15-2020, 09:09 PM
Big outing by Lorenzen.

zigbeenuthouse
09-15-2020, 09:09 PM
Really great job by Lorenzen. IF he could transition to a starter for next year that would be HUGE for this club.

Reds Freak
09-15-2020, 09:09 PM
I expect Antone on the mound in the fifth.

Lorenzen is a relief pitcher, heís thrown 60 pitches.

It worked out this inning but hopefully that's it for Lorenzen. I'm not sure you can ask much more of an emergency start. It'd be nice to play a little add-on here.

Kc61
09-15-2020, 09:09 PM
I think I give Lorenzen a chance to get through 8-9-1 next inning but no way should he face the Hayes-Moran-Bell trio again.

Good call, I would have pulled Lorenzen after 60 pitches.

zigbeenuthouse
09-15-2020, 09:10 PM
Big outing by Lorenzen.

Is Lorenzen elite?

adkindo
09-15-2020, 09:10 PM
Really great job by Lorenzen. IF he could transition to a starter for next year that would be HUGE for this club.

it would just as big if he could go back to being a lockdown middle reliever or set up guy....but I get why he would want to start or close

RedsfaninMT
09-15-2020, 09:12 PM
I guess it is still a couple weeks away...but have to wonder if they will even be able to play games on the West Coast for playoffs.....some of those images of the air look terrible

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close that run differential

We're choking on WA/CA fires in MT. Air quality is labeled "unhealthy."

Roy Tucker
09-15-2020, 09:14 PM
We're choking on WA/CA fires in MT. Air quality is labeled "unhealthy."

The sunrise here this am looked really funky. I heard later that it was smoke from the western fires.

adkindo
09-15-2020, 09:15 PM
We're choking on WA/CA fires in MT. Air quality is labeled "unhealthy."

I saw some images on the news....i think from San Francisco and outside Seattle...almost looked biblical

adkindo
09-15-2020, 09:16 PM
didn't they report earlier that Musgrove was on a 80ish pitch count tonight?

zigbeenuthouse
09-15-2020, 09:17 PM
Winker has lost his mojo

RedTeamGo!
09-15-2020, 09:18 PM
I saw some images on the news....i think from San Francisco and outside Seattle...almost looked biblical

Biblical isnít the phrase I would use, but if I used the phrase I would like to it would be considered political, which is American politics in a nutshell.

podgejeff_
09-15-2020, 09:19 PM
The Reds seem to really have a problem with Musgrove for some reason.

Reds Freak
09-15-2020, 09:19 PM
I have a suspicion that four runs might not win this game.

TheBigLebowski
09-15-2020, 09:19 PM
Beating the sass out of Musgrove would be a nice team building enterprise. Would love to see it.

Mitri
09-15-2020, 09:19 PM
Musgrove looks and acts like he was born to be a Pirate.

zigbeenuthouse
09-15-2020, 09:20 PM
Good job by Lorenzen....now Antone has to keep it going.

adkindo
09-15-2020, 09:20 PM
I have a suspicion that four runs might not win this game.

I would feel better with 6+

zigbeenuthouse
09-15-2020, 09:22 PM
By issuing NO WALKS Lorenzen is moving toward becoming a pitcher for this club. I like that.

Roy Tucker
09-15-2020, 09:22 PM
Musgrove looks and acts like he was born to be a Pirate.

Lots of chirping. Pirates are a bunch of buttheads. A Hurdle hangover.

Mitri
09-15-2020, 09:24 PM
Lots of chirping. Pirates are a bunch of buttheads. A Hurdle hangover.

This season, chirping is all they have left.

zigbeenuthouse
09-15-2020, 09:26 PM
Pirates have some players in Reynolds, Newman, Hayes, Bell, and Moran.

podgejeff_
09-15-2020, 09:27 PM
Pirates have some players in Reynolds, Newman, Hayes, Bell, and Moran.

Pirates aren't going anywhere with that pitching.

Roy Tucker
09-15-2020, 09:29 PM
Is it just me or did Antone just come out of nowhere? I don’t remember him being a prospect and he has looked pretty good this year.

zigbeenuthouse
09-15-2020, 09:29 PM
Pirates aren't going anywhere with that pitching.

That is the problem. They couldn't hold Cole and company but they sure do draft pretty well.

podgejeff_
09-15-2020, 09:30 PM
Is it just me or did Antone just come out of nowhere? I don’t remember him being a prospect and he has looked pretty good this year.

Pretty much.

He was thought of as an organizational AAAA type.

Then out of nowhere he started hitting high 90s and throwing high spin on his breaking stuff.

adkindo
09-15-2020, 09:30 PM
Is it just me or did Antone just come out of nowhere? I don’t remember him being a prospect and he has looked pretty good this year.

I recall a few guys that follow the minor leagues a little closer bringing up his name a few times late last season....but that was the first I recall him being discussed

zigbeenuthouse
09-15-2020, 09:31 PM
Is it just me or did Antone just come out of nowhere? I don’t remember him being a prospect and he has looked pretty good this year.

He had surgery couple years ago and has worked his way back. Hard work is paying off.

Roy Tucker
09-15-2020, 09:32 PM
Pretty much.

He was thought of as an organizational AAAA type.

Then out of nowhere he started hitting high 90s and throwing high spin on his breaking stuff.

Thanks. That’s why I thought.

I’ve seen him talking to Bauer in the dugout. I wonder if that relationship (if there is one) has contributed.

Kc61
09-15-2020, 09:32 PM
Antone seems deceptive out there, has the hitters off balance.

adkindo
09-15-2020, 09:32 PM
That is the problem. They couldn't hold Cole and company but they sure do draft pretty well.

I think Archer is out this season, but he was in the front of their rotation last season

zigbeenuthouse
09-15-2020, 09:32 PM
Antone worked very hard on conditioning and that has proven to be part of his equation. Not sure if Driveline played a huge roll. He's got it going.

Reds Freak
09-15-2020, 09:33 PM
Good call, I would have pulled Lorenzen after 60 pitches.

Since my first move worked out so well, I'm gonna go Antone for the 7th, Garrett for the 8th, and Bradley for the 9th. If Antone breezes through the 7th or the Reds score a few more, I'd give him the 8th and either Garrett or Bradley for the 9th.

Kc61
09-15-2020, 09:35 PM
By issuing NO WALKS Lorenzen is moving toward becoming a pitcher for this club. I like that.

He’s been with the team for six seasons, is paid $3.7 million, and has one more season before free agency. So I hope he completes his movement toward being a pitcher for this club rather quickly.

podgejeff_
09-15-2020, 09:35 PM
He’s been with the team for six seasons, is paid $3.7 million, and has one more season before free agency. So I hope he completes his movement toward being a pitcher for this club rather quickly.

Man it's already been that long...

Roy Tucker
09-15-2020, 09:36 PM
Cederland throws gas.

zigbeenuthouse
09-15-2020, 09:36 PM
Cederlind throws about 100 MPH.

podgejeff_
09-15-2020, 09:38 PM
That Brian Goodwin out was at 103.6 and is a hit 77% of the time.

NebraskaRed
09-15-2020, 09:38 PM
Brad Lesley shoutout

Ron Madden
09-15-2020, 09:39 PM
Bobby Nightengale
@nightengalejr
Pretty much everyone on the #Reds bench stood next to the dugout stairs to congratulate Michael Lorenzen. Very impressive spot start, giving up 1 run in 5 innings, and a big boost for the rest of the bullpen.

zigbeenuthouse
09-15-2020, 09:39 PM
He’s been with the team for six seasons, is paid $3.7 million, and has one more season before free agency. So I hope he completes his movement toward being a pitcher for this club rather quickly.

Some guys get it later. Lorenzen was 1-4 last year with sub 3 ERA but he lost some games he should not have. He would walk guys or give up double or HR and come apart, and it looked early this season he was getting worse. I hope he really gels as club fights for playoffs.

zigbeenuthouse
09-15-2020, 09:41 PM
Sims is another young arm the Reds make strike gold with for end of this year and next.

NebraskaRed
09-15-2020, 09:42 PM
The rest of the game should be just anecdotes about Brad Lesley

Roy Tucker
09-15-2020, 09:43 PM
Brad Lesley shoutout

1982-1984 were bad years for the Reds.

I had season tickets in 1982 :(

zigbeenuthouse
09-15-2020, 09:44 PM
The rest of the game should be just anecdotes about Brad Lesley

I'd hate to be one of the Reds players shaking his hand and getting hit in the face after a save.

zigbeenuthouse
09-15-2020, 09:46 PM
Couple more runs please.

Ron Madden
09-15-2020, 09:46 PM
Nice clean inning for Sims

Kc61
09-15-2020, 09:47 PM
Some guys get it later. Lorenzen was 1-4 last year with sub 3 ERA but he lost some games he should not have. He would walk guys or give up double or HR and come apart, and it looked early this season he was getting worse. I hope he really gels as club fights for playoffs.

Lorenzen has pitched 265 games for the Reds. Last season he pitched 73 games with a 2.92 ERA and was the best reliever on the ball club.

The narrative that he’s suddenly coming into his own based on tonight’s outing just isn’t the case.

NebraskaRed
09-15-2020, 09:48 PM
I'd hate to be one of the Reds players shaking his hand and getting hit in the face after a save.

I couldn't stop laughing at that footage.

podgejeff_
09-15-2020, 09:48 PM
Three pitchers have saved 25 or more games in each of the last 3 seasons (2017-2019). Who are they?

zigbeenuthouse
09-15-2020, 09:50 PM
Lorenzen has pitched 265 games for the Reds. Last season he pitched 73 games with a 2.92 ERA and was the best reliever on the ball club. By far.

The narrative that he’s suddenly coming into his own based on tonight’s outing just isn’t the case.

Never said it was. SAID IT LOOKED good with no walks tonight. He also lost 4 last year. He also was looking so bad earlier in the year it was tenuous to bring him in tight games. Tonight was a nice change.

Rantly
09-15-2020, 09:50 PM
1982-1984 were bad years for the Reds.

I had season tickets in 1982 :(

Poor Mario Soto

podgejeff_
09-15-2020, 09:51 PM
I'm guessing Iggy, Chapman, Edwin Diaz.

Roy Tucker
09-15-2020, 09:53 PM
I'm guessing Iggy, Chapman, Edwin Diaz.

I’d say Iggy, Jensen, and Chapman

Ron Madden
09-15-2020, 09:54 PM
I'm guessing Iggy, Chapman, Edwin Diaz.

Jensen from the Dodgers?

zigbeenuthouse
09-15-2020, 09:54 PM
I'm guessing Iggy, Chapman, Edwin Diaz.

Jansen?

podgejeff_
09-15-2020, 09:56 PM
Jansen makes sense.

I didn't look this up, I don't know the answer.

Roy Tucker
09-15-2020, 09:56 PM
Aquino on the Snider Rd highway today

podgejeff_
09-15-2020, 09:58 PM
That nearly took our new young shortstop's head off.

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For the record, that was not even in the top three hardest hit balls tonight.

Umkubas
09-15-2020, 09:59 PM
did Antone just come out of nowhere?

Antone was drafted in the 5th round of the 2015 MLB draft and started with the Billings Mustangs with former Stanford Cardinal draft pick Alex Blandino. Antone was sent down to the Arizona Reds after 12 starts (2-3).

The August 27th, 2019 was Antoneís last start for the Louisville Bats before Blandino was recalled by the Cincinnati Reds...7 innings pitched ....a win (4-8)....(71 and 2/3rds innings pitched........13 game starts....14 game appearances)

Go Stanford Cardinal Baseball

Ron Madden
09-15-2020, 10:00 PM
Jansen makes sense.

I didn't look this up, I don't know the answer.

Edwin Diaz, Raisel Iglesias, Kenley Jansen

I looked it up

Kc61
09-15-2020, 10:00 PM
Never said it was. SAID IT LOOKED good with no walks tonight. He also lost 4 last year. He also was looking so bad earlier in the year it was tenuous to bring him in tight games. Tonight was a nice change.

No, you said “By issuing NO WALKS Lorenzen is moving toward becoming a pitcher for this club. I like that.”

That was your post in full.

podgejeff_
09-15-2020, 10:01 PM
Antone was drafted in the 5th round of the 2015 MLB draft and started with the Billings Mustangs with former Stanford Cardinal draft pick Alex Blandino. Antone was sent down to the Arizona Reds after 12 starts (2-3).

The August 27th, 2019 was Antoneís last start for the Louisville Bats before Blandino was recalled by the Cincinnati Reds...7 innings pitched ....a win (4-8)....(71 and 2/3rds innings pitched........13 game starts....14 game appearances)

Go Stanford Cardinal Baseball

...did you just turn a post about Tejay Antone into a Stanford baseball post?

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Edwin Diaz, Raisel Iglesias, Kenley Jansen

I looked it up

2 out of 3 ain't bad.

NebraskaRed
09-15-2020, 10:02 PM
...did you just turn a post about Tejay Antone into a Stanford baseball post?

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2 out of 3 ain't bad.

Go Stanford Cardinal Baseball

Roy Tucker
09-15-2020, 10:02 PM
Jansen makes sense.

I didn't look this up, I don't know the answer.

I wouldn’t have guessed Jensen. But I saw a Dodger game a couple weeks ago and they posted his save stats.

podgejeff_
09-15-2020, 10:03 PM
More like BarnSMART

ok I'll see myself out

Stray
09-15-2020, 10:03 PM
Don't know that I've ever seen someone hit it into the plate and it just stopped

zigbeenuthouse
09-15-2020, 10:03 PM
No, you said “By issuing NO WALKS Lorenzen is moving toward becoming a pitcher for this club. I like that.”

That was your post in full.

And I stand by that. After falling apart this year, losing 4 last year, I think tonight was a step in right direction for him issuing no walks and regaining confidence. Yes, he may be getting it together for end of this season and next.

adkindo
09-15-2020, 10:04 PM
Edwin Diaz, Raisel Iglesias, Kenley Jansen

I looked it up

yeah I did too....Chapman must have been injured in 2017?

Kc61
09-15-2020, 10:07 PM
And I stand by that. After falling apart this year, losing 4 last year, I think tonight was a step in right direction for him issuing no walks and regaining confidence. Yes, he may be getting it together for end of this season and next.

Recast it any way you want.

zigbeenuthouse
09-15-2020, 10:07 PM
Recast it any way you want.

Sure will

Ron Madden
09-15-2020, 10:08 PM
Reds lead 4-1 going into the 9th inning

Reds Freak
09-15-2020, 10:09 PM
I'm not crazy about how the offense just went to sleep after the second inning. That's come back to bite the Reds more than once this season.

zigbeenuthouse
09-15-2020, 10:10 PM
Garrett the Big Beast to now come on for his first MLB save.

M2
09-15-2020, 10:10 PM
I like that David Bell discovered tonight that Nick Castellanos can be pulled for a defensive replacement.

JFLegal
09-15-2020, 10:11 PM
what a great catch by goodwin!

adkindo
09-15-2020, 10:11 PM
Goodwin with a great catch!

Reds Fanatic
09-15-2020, 10:11 PM
What a catch by Goodwin

The Operator
09-15-2020, 10:11 PM
Damn Goodwin! Wow!


Amir owes him a steak dinner for that grab

Ironman92
09-15-2020, 10:11 PM
Pitch better Amir

podgejeff_
09-15-2020, 10:11 PM
Brian Goodwin is the answer to history's greatest monster.

Ron Madden
09-15-2020, 10:11 PM
Nice Catch Godwin!!!

zigbeenuthouse
09-15-2020, 10:11 PM
Goodwin....wow. Great catch.

Roy Tucker
09-15-2020, 10:12 PM
Goodwin has some hops.

Garrett is a bit of an ass. But he’s our ass.

RedTeamGo!
09-15-2020, 10:12 PM
Goodwin = very valuable player.

podgejeff_
09-15-2020, 10:13 PM
Goodwin has some hops.

Garrett is a bit of an ass. But he’s our ass.

He can't help himself. He knows the Pirates fear him.

adkindo
09-15-2020, 10:13 PM
Brewers crushing the Cardinals 11-1 in the 5th inning

zigbeenuthouse
09-15-2020, 10:13 PM
Clubber Bell turned around. Garrett with the walk.

The Operator
09-15-2020, 10:13 PM
Walks are no bueno Amir

The Operator
09-15-2020, 10:15 PM
Goodwin has some hops.

Garrett is a bit of an ass. But he’s our ass.

I like it. He has flair, personality.


He just has to make sure his performance backs it up because guys will let him hear about when they get to him, lol

podgejeff_
09-15-2020, 10:15 PM
Barnhart has had quite a good game tonight.

Roy Tucker
09-15-2020, 10:15 PM
I guess playoffs in a bubble is ok with no spectators.

podgejeff_
09-15-2020, 10:16 PM
Come on Garrett. Don't do this.

The Operator
09-15-2020, 10:16 PM
Damnit another walk

Godwin’s catch looking pretty large right about now

zigbeenuthouse
09-15-2020, 10:16 PM
Settle down big guy. Focus and don't over throw here.

RedTeamGo!
09-15-2020, 10:16 PM
Brutal.

Ron Madden
09-15-2020, 10:16 PM
Let's Go Amir!

RedTeamGo!
09-15-2020, 10:16 PM
Don’t do this, Amir.

Roy Tucker
09-15-2020, 10:17 PM
Amir, channel that energy.

The Operator
09-15-2020, 10:17 PM
Settle down Amir

paulrichjr
09-15-2020, 10:17 PM
So frustrating

Kc61
09-15-2020, 10:18 PM
Garrett needs to relax and use his stuff.

RedTeamGo!
09-15-2020, 10:18 PM
Get him out, he has nothing tonight.

Roy Tucker
09-15-2020, 10:18 PM
Garrett with a bad Iglesias imitation.

Tom Servo
09-15-2020, 10:18 PM
At some point Garrett needs to put it altogether for a full season or else he’s closer to journeyman than he is lockdown reliever.

757690
09-15-2020, 10:19 PM
How Bell handles this situation will reveal much about his ability to be a MLB manager.

Rantly
09-15-2020, 10:19 PM
Is Iggy hurt?

The Operator
09-15-2020, 10:19 PM
Lol ball 5

Thank god for those two gift strikes

zigbeenuthouse
09-15-2020, 10:19 PM
Need a DP to end this

podgejeff_
09-15-2020, 10:20 PM
Is Iggy hurt?

He pitched in two separate games yesterday.

Ironman92
09-15-2020, 10:20 PM
Shouldíve had Lorenzen visit the mound and tell him every other pitcher has stepped up....now it your turn

Tom Servo
09-15-2020, 10:20 PM
He pitched in two separate games yesterday.
And on Sunday

The Operator
09-15-2020, 10:20 PM
Got him!


2 down!

Reds Fanatic
09-15-2020, 10:21 PM
Big K!

Playadlc
09-15-2020, 10:21 PM
Huge.

adkindo
09-15-2020, 10:21 PM
needed that K bad

zigbeenuthouse
09-15-2020, 10:21 PM
Nice. Get one more and send Pirates out the door.

The Operator
09-15-2020, 10:21 PM
Ump helped you out on that K, Amir


Take care of business yourself this time