9-26-20 Reds @ Twins

[Ron Madden]

First Pitch 7:10PM

Reds
1. Shogo Akiyama (L) LF
2. Jesse Winker (L) RF
3. Joey Votto (L) 1B
4. Eugenio Suarez (R) 3B
5. Mike Moustakas (L) DH
6. Freddy Galvis (S) 2B
7. Brian Goodwin (L) CF
8. Kyle Farmer (R) SS
9. Curt Casali (R) C
SP Luis Castillo (R)


Twins
1. Max Kepler (L) RF
2. Luis Arraez (L) 2B
3. Eddie Rosario (L) LF
4. Nelson Cruz (R) DH
5. Jake Cave (L) CF
6. Jorge Polanco (S) SS
7. Marwin Gonzalez (S) 1B
8. Ryan Jeffers (R) C
9. Ehire Adrianza (S) 3B
SP Michael Pineda (R)

[NebraskaRed]

I imagine I won't be nearly as tense and stressed out watching this game as I was last night's.

[TexasRedsFan]

First time this year that Castellanos hasn't started, I believe. Assuming it's just a day of rest.

So if Cardinals finish one percentage point ahead of the Reds (like they are now) while having played two less games, does that give them 2nd place or do they have to play the makeup on Monday? Still seems unfair to me that they got to wait until all their players were cleared while the Reds had to play ahead a couple times without key guys who had to sit.

[RedTeamGo!]

I imagine I won't be nearly as tense and stressed out watching this game as I was last night's.

I’m still drunk!

[Ron Madden]

Bobby Nightengale
@nightengalejr
David Bell said Archie Bradley had some soreness earlier this week, so he wasn't available for a couple days. He's healthy and good to go now. He may have pitched in the 9th last night if #Reds didn't score add-on runs.

[Bruce Berenyi]

mayb e goodwin can attempt to bat under .100

[RichRed]

Let’s try to finish ahead of the Cardinals. Dumb dirty Redbirds.

[goreds2]

Looks like a play to win lineup for the Reds except for maybe one spot.

[Tom Servo]

Don't really need this one but hey it wouldn't hurt :pray:

[Alabama Red]

First time this year that Castellanos hasn't started, I believe. Assuming it's just a day of rest.

So if Cardinals finish one percentage point ahead of the Reds (like they are now) while having played two less games, does that give them 2nd place or do they have to play the makeup on Monday? Still seems unfair to me that they got to wait until all their players were cleared while the Reds had to play ahead a couple times without key guys who had to sit.
The makeup games are supposed to only be played if it impacts who will make the playoffs or who is a top 4 seed. If it’s just seeding the winning % is used. There are so many scenarios I’m not sure what will happen.

[Kc61]

First time this year that Castellanos hasn't started, I believe. Assuming it's just a day of rest.

So if Cardinals finish one percentage point ahead of the Reds (like they are now) while having played two less games, does that give them 2nd place or do they have to play the makeup on Monday? Still seems unfair to me that they got to wait until all their players were cleared while the Reds had to play ahead a couple times without key guys who had to sit.

Cards could very well play Monday - if the extra games could impact whether Cards, Brewers, or Phils make the playoffs.

But Cards would not play Monday simply because they are seeded higher than Reds, having a mere one percentage point lead. That’s just a seeding issue and would not affect home field.

[JFLegal]

this is wild. how often do we have a reds' regular-season game when the reds have already clinched a playoff berth? i can get used to this feeling.

[Reds Fanatic]

Cards could very well play Monday - if the extra games could impact whether Cards, Brewers, or Phils make the playoffs.

But Cards would not play Monday simply because they are seeded higher than Reds, having a mere one percentage point lead. That’s just a seeding issue and would not affect home field.

If the Brewers won next 2 games they would be tied with the Cards and at that point most likely the games would have to played as I don’t think other teams would be too far ahead to no make them be played

[UPRedsFan]

I want to see the offense continue to roll so they have confident bats going into the playoffs. Also go Brewers!

[Reds Fanatic]

Tonight’s game is on nationally on FS1

[RED VAN HOT]

I like the lineup with Winker #2. Let's see if emphasis is getting on base instead of power.

[Ron Madden]

Shogo singles to LF

[zigbeenuthouse]

Sho GO proving his value each and every game now. SB!!!!!!! His 7th.

[Ron Madden]

Shogo swipes 2B

[Ron Madden]

Da Wink wit da walk

[zigbeenuthouse]

1-0 with Votto RBI DOUBLE...SWEET

[Ron Madden]

Joey RBI!!!

1-0 Reds

[Ironman92]

6’7 280? If he’s 6’7 (looks like it)....he’s gotta be 340

[Ron Madden]

Moose sac fly Winker scores

[Mitri]

Love that this teams wants more wins. Would love to see a sweep heading into the playoffs.

[zigbeenuthouse]

Advancing runners and scoring...nice SAC..2-0.

[Mitri]

I gotta say, these powder blue unis just look bad. I'm all about 70s/throwbacks and I typically love graphic design from that era. Maybe they have the shade off, a little too dark? They just look really ugly, not in a fun/ironic way either.

[Ron Madden]

Freddy draws a walk

[membengal]

I gotta say, these powder blue unis just look bad. I'm all about 70s/throwbacks and I typically love graphic design from that era. Maybe they have the shade off, a little too dark? They just look really ugly, not in a fun/ironic way either.

Counterpoint: The hell you say. Those are freakin' awesome.

[Red Raindog]

A sweep wins my Vegas bet on wins totals....

[emoji2957]


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[Mitri]

Counterpoint: The hell you say. Those are freakin' awesome.

I'm a sucker for gray, I suppose.

[The Operator]

Much to my chagrin, that was one hell of an AB

[JFLegal]

another home plate ump that blows.

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he's now missed 4 strikes this half-inning. what a terrible umpire, even for MLB standards.

[zigbeenuthouse]

Hope Castillo can find his command soon.

[JFLegal]

nice work castillo, 2 down.

[The Operator]

Rosario grounds out, Arraez moves to third.

[JFLegal]

Hope Castillo can find his command soon.

really? this ump is squeezing him like crazy.

[The Operator]

Damn


Nelson Cruz makes it 2-1

[Ron Madden]

It's 2-1 Reds

[zigbeenuthouse]

really? this ump is squeezing him like crazy.

Castillo is not in control of his pitches. Cruz hit a hanging breaking pitch. SOME of his pitches are catching too much of the plate.

EDIT: would agree he's close on that low pitch and not getting the call. No doubt.

[The Operator]

It's 2-1 Reds

Yea, I realized that after I hit submit and then my daughter started climbing one of the end tables.

Aye

[JFLegal]

screw this ump.

[zigbeenuthouse]

Nice K to end the inning.

[NebraskaRed]

I'm surprised that ump didn't try to call that swinging strike a ball.

[JFLegal]

Castillo is not in control of his pitches. Cruz hit a hanging breaking pitch. SOME of his pitches are catching too much of the plate.

before that hanger (which is when you posted) he made zero bad pitches. this ump is just squeezing him. had to strike out cave twice.

[Tom Servo]

Damn


Nelson Cruz makes it 2-1
Honestly it’s insane how the Reds handled so well yesterday.

[zigbeenuthouse]

Strikes zones are always going to be tight for most MLB games. AS LONG as they are the same for both pitchers I can live with that.

[JFLegal]

Honestly it’s insane how the Reds handled so well yesterday.

what do you mean handled so well yesterday?

[The Operator]

Anyone remember Luis Pineda?

Another in a long line of young pitchers I got excited about during the lost decade that ultimately never panned out.

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what do you mean handled so well yesterday?

I’m assuming he means how they pitched so well to Cruz

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Shogooooo


Two out oppo infield single

[JFLegal]

another base knock for shogo.

[Ron Madden]

Another hit for Shogo!

[JFLegal]

Anyone remember Luis Pineda?

Another in a long line of young pitchers I got excited about during the lost decade that ultimately never panned out.

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I’m assuming he means how they pitched so well to Cruz

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Shogooooo


Two out oppo infield single

aahhh, makes sense.

[zigbeenuthouse]

Pineda came up as SS ....

[TexasRedsFan]

Shogo finishing with a BA over .250 would be an impressive achievement given his start.

[The Operator]

Casali with the “throw a few grounders” Crash Davis speech to Castillo lol

[Ironman92]

Pineda came up as SS ....

The guy pitching? Lol

[The Operator]

Shogo!

Helluva play

1 down

[JFLegal]

oh what a catch by shogo!

[Ron Madden]

Nice Play

[zigbeenuthouse]

The guy pitching? Lol

Yep....musta been a tad bit lighter in weight.

[JFLegal]

nice K.

[membengal]

Yeah, a genuinely great play from Shogo.

[The Operator]

K!


2 down

[Ironman92]

Yep....musta been a tad bit lighter in weight.

And 6’7? Lord lol.

Looks like Monster Papi

[zigbeenuthouse]

Castillo dealing now.

[JFLegal]

if we win out, we need the cardinals to lose at least one to get the 5 seed? is that right?

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6 down, 21 to go.

[Ron Madden]

if we win out, we need the cardinals to lose at least one to get the 5 seed? is that right?

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6 down, 21 to go.



Joel Luckhaupt
@jluckhaupt
What the Reds need to do the *rest of the way* to get the 5th seed (both need to be true):
•Win 1 more than the Cardinals, unless STL plays DET on Monday, then they need to at least win the same number as the Cardinals.

• Win 1 more than the Marlins.

[Kc61]

Brewers up 1-0 over Cards on a Braun homer.

Phils lead TB 1 zip.

[membengal]

if we win out, we need the cardinals to lose at least one to get the 5 seed? is that right?

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6 down, 21 to go.

yes

[The Operator]

Joey hits one off the wall then gets thrown out trying to make it a double

D’oh

[TexasRedsFan]

Votto forgetting he's Votto on the basepaths.

[Ironman92]

Nice hit Joe. Not fast but ok. Knock one in later

[zigbeenuthouse]

Crushed....Pineda almost gave up his first HR this year. Pitching in big parks has helped him with that stat.

[JFLegal]

Crushed....Pineda almost gave up his first HR this year. Pitching in big parks has helped him with that stat.

also, not pitching for most of the year has helped him with that stat. ;)

[The Operator]

Alex Gordon retiring?!?


I feel old

[WrongVerb]

Alex Gordon retiring?!?


I feel old

He was drafted the same year as Jay Bruce

[SomeCallMeTim]

Time for Moose to let loose...

[TexasRedsFan]

6-9 in this order not likely to scare many opposing pitchers.

[TexasRedsFan]

Hunter Pence retiring too. He and Gordon both good guys.

[JFLegal]

WTF is wrong with this ump?

[JFLegal]

not even borderline pitches. clear strikes.

got the out anyway, but this guy needs to be much better.

[The Operator]

Hunter Pence retiring too. He and Gordon both good guys.

I’ve just never liked Hunter Pence, even before the 2012 playoff meltdown.


Not sure why, just never liked him.

[The Operator]

Kepler doubles with 1 out

[The Operator]

Love the gong story

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Shogo clearly lost the ball and it’s off the wall


Tie game

[TexasRedsFan]

Love the gong story

LOL at Tucker telling Bell his first hit was too wimpy.

[zigbeenuthouse]

Akiyama lost that one

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Castillo trying to find right release point.

[JFLegal]

when a pitcher gets squeezed, then he feels like he needs to be perfect. this ump sucks.

[TexasRedsFan]

Luis getting hit around a bit tonight. Doubt he goes more than 5.

[The Operator]

Damn

3-2 Twins on another double

[JFLegal]

welp, at least we clinched yesterday, because this one is about to get out of control.

[Ironman92]

Bleh

[TexasRedsFan]

That wall is ridiculous!

[zigbeenuthouse]

3-2....pitches are up. Casali set up inside and that pitch was up and outside.

[The Operator]

Grounder. 2 outs

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Disco warming in the pen

[Ron Madden]

3-2....pitches are up. Barnhart set up inside and that pitch was up and outside.

Casali is catching

[JFLegal]

ok, good damage control (barely lol).

[zigbeenuthouse]

Keep it here at 3-2 and get some offense cooking.

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Casali is catching

I edited. Thanks

[JFLegal]

goodwin is basically an automatic out every time.

[zigbeenuthouse]

Castillo needs a good inning in 4th and hopefully quick. Keep this game close going to last 3 innings I like the chances.

[Ironman92]

Reds hitters ability and willingness to adjust is often sucky

[NC-Red]

This game is over

[The Operator]

Double against the shift


I hate Marwywn Gonzalez, as I do with most of those Astros

[zigbeenuthouse]

This game is over

Could be...we'll see.

[The Operator]

Two pretty sketchy throws to first by Luis tonight lol

[The Operator]

Wild pitch makes it 4-2


Not Castillo’s night it would seem

[JFLegal]

can't be giving up free runs like that. horrible.

[The Operator]

K


4-2 Twins after 4

[JFLegal]

who knows how he would have pitched if this ump knew what balls/strikes were, but need to adapt and overcome.

[Ron Madden]

The most important thing is for everyone to go into the postseason healthy

[The Operator]

The most important thing is for everyone to go into the postseason healthy

I want to see them finish with a winning record but you are correct, now that they’re in, health is the most important thing.

[The Operator]

Joey just looked super pissed in the dugout for some reason

[Ron Madden]

It still would be awesome to win out the rest of the way

[zigbeenuthouse]

who knows how he would have pitched if this ump knew what balls/strikes were, but need to adapt and overcome.

I don't think the ump really had lot to do with his release point and spin tonight. He's not real comfortable on the mound and you'll have that from time to time. You'll see him find it and lose it. That wild pitch is an indicator. Keep it close boys.

Pineda gone and Cippard to the hill.

[JFLegal]

I don't think the ump really had lot to do with his release point and spin tonight. He's not real comfortable on the mound and you'll have that from time to time. You'll see him find it and lose it. That wild pitch is an indicator. Keep it close boys.

Pineda gone and Cippard to the hill.

i hear you, but when an ump squeezes a pitcher, it has a lasting effect.

[Ironman92]

The pitches Winker has missed of late...his swing a touch long right now

[NC-Red]

Games like this are why I don’t trust Castillo in the playoffs not matter how well he’s pitched lately. Rather have Tyler Mahle be the starter and Castillo could be a long reliever

[podgejeff_]

Games like this are why I don’t trust Castillo in the playoffs not matter how well he’s pitched lately. Rather have Tyler Mahle be the starter and Castillo could be a long reliever

You serious right now?

[zigbeenuthouse]

Baseball is such a game of inches a pitcher can look bad JUST missing a fraction or so or inch or so. Castillo will get this straight heading into the playoffs. I like Johnson as pitching coach.

Some rain falling. DeSclafani gives up double....Twins living up to there name with SIX doubles tonight.

[JFLegal]

at least the reds figured out that disco is not good. he's now a middle reliever (and a bad one).

[Ron Madden]

You serious right now?

He can't be serious. I think he just comes around here to stir the pot

[The Operator]

Games like this are why I don’t trust Castillo in the playoffs not matter how well he’s pitched lately. Rather have Tyler Mahle be the starter and Castillo could be a long reliever

Lol wow

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I feel we may be looking at a rain delay

[WrongVerb]

Thinking maybe the Reds should put a fielder in right center.

[zigbeenuthouse]

Twins are a really good team so no surprise in them hitting like this.

[The Operator]

Eh, maybe not. Not much on the radar.

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5-2 on another double


Arraez is killing us

[JFLegal]

disco demolition.

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disco should not be on the postseason roster. he has nothing.

[757690]

I am beginning to think that Disco’s problem isn’t that he’s tipping his pitches.

[zigbeenuthouse]

DeSclafani just may not make the post season roster. He's struggled bigly over last month. I do not think he's going to get a big contract as FA this winter.

[JFLegal]

it's so cute that whenever the twins came up with their logo, they took a generic T and matched it with the Reds' wishbone C.

[The Operator]

Rosario nearly leaves the yard but Shogo hauls it in

1 out

[podgejeff_]

it's so cute that whenever the twins came up with their logo, they took a generic T and matched it with the Reds' wishbone C.

I was saying this yesterday.

Their Unis that they were wearing may have well been ripped from us and then that T was added.

[zigbeenuthouse]

Who is coming in for Reds next? Antone?

[JFLegal]

I was saying this yesterday.

Their Unis that they were wearing may have well been ripped from us and then that T was added.

yes, i mean, that wishbone C is exactly the same. reds never complained about them ripping it off? same color and all.

[The Operator]

Disco giving up some major contact but the inning is over


5-2 Twins

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it's so cute that whenever the twins came up with their logo, they took a generic T and matched it with the Reds' wishbone C.

Yea, it’s honestly pretty lame on their part.

[JFLegal]

also "TC" as your logo is so stupid when your team is not called the Twin City Twins. It's the Minnesota Twins. MT would make sense. "TC" is just stupid, especially when you rip off logos from other teams.

[The Operator]

This guy looks like he’s about 15 years old.

[podgejeff_]

yes, i mean, that wishbone C is exactly the same. reds never complained about them ripping it off? same color and all.

Apparently the T and C is their historical logo. They only went with the M from the late 80s to the early 00s.

I guess the Reds lost the ability to complain about it in the 60s.

[zigbeenuthouse]

This guy looks like he’s about 15 years old.

13th round pick....but he's made it. Having good year.

[JFLegal]

Apparently the T and C is their historical logo. They only went with the M from the late 80s to the early 00s.

I guess the Reds lost the ability to complain about it in the 60s.

yes, i know that logo is not new. twins have been using it off and on for a long time.

it's cool they give the reds a shout-out in their logo.

[podgejeff_]

yes, i know that logo is not new. twins have been using it off and on for a long time.

it's cool they give the reds a shout-out in their logo.

The Twins are one of those teams I rarely think about.

[JFLegal]

reds look like a team that partied too hard last night.

also: i don't blame them.

[zigbeenuthouse]

Moose pine tarred up his name on back of jersey in honor of KC Alex Gordon retiring.

[The Operator]

Lol are these guys really not allowed to talk about TV shows on other networks?

[zigbeenuthouse]

Need a rally....don't give up lads. 3 innings left.

[podgejeff_]

Lol are these guys really not allowed to talk about TV shows on other networks?

They are employees of the network first and foremost, I believe.

No network is going to give another one free advertising.

[The Operator]

They are employees of the network first and foremost, I believe.

No network is going to give another one free advertising.

I mean I get it in that sense, but I really don’t see the harm in Jim Day announcing he went home and watched a Seinfeld re-run.


I dunno, lol

[podgejeff_]

Goodwin base knock.

[podgejeff_]

I mean I get it in that sense, but I really don’t see the harm in Jim Day announcing he went home and watched a Seinfeld re-run.


I dunno, lol

Jim Day would seem like the guy who gets called out by his employer for discussing a show from another network that's been off the air for 20 years.

[JFLegal]

yes, even when thom got busted for dropping the F word (one of the F words?) his first apology was to "the people who sign my paychecks." lol

[zigbeenuthouse]

Two on NO OUTs........PLEASE no DP

[The Operator]

Oh, that’s DJ Rayburn behind home plate?


No wonder the strike zone has been so awful. I still remember him having little man syndrome as a rookie umpire and throwing Joey Votto out for absolutely no good reason in 2010.


The guy is awful

[The Operator]

And DJ rings Casali up on a pitch low and outside.


Garbage, absolute garbage

[JFLegal]

casali strikes out on a pitch that ... was not a strike. wtmf.

[Red Raindog]

Bogus strike three


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[zigbeenuthouse]

That pitch was really close....Casali should have fouled it off.

[The Operator]

Baseball needs automated balls and strikes.


These guys are terrible at calling the strike zone.

[RedlegsFanatic]

U absolute HAVE to pinch hit Aquino for Shogo here right?
The obvious move?

Ok... or Nick

[kaldaniels]

Oh, that’s DJ Rayburn behind home plate?


No wonder the strike zone has been so awful. I still remember him having little man syndrome as a rookie umpire and throwing Joey Votto out for absolutely no good reason in 2010.


The guy is awful

You can argue umpire draw in the playoffs is more important than seed.

[RedlegsFanatic]

Hey! I seen Rogers pitch in Lexington

[zigbeenuthouse]

Lefty Rogers in and Castellanos PH for Akiyama

[SomeCallMeTim]

Baseball needs automated balls and strikes.


These guys are terrible at calling the strike zone.

I was saying this back when the Maddux, Smoltz and Glavine always got 2 inches in every direction. The tech now makes it possible.

HD and the graphics has exposed how terrible most are.

[The Operator]

Yea, Cast!!!


5-3 ballgame

[zigbeenuthouse]

Baser and RBI by Castellanos....5-3. He hit 0-2 pitch.

Aquino should come up now to PH

[The Operator]

I was saying this back when the Maddux, Smoltz and Glavine always got 2 inches in every direction. The tech now makes it possible.

HD and the graphics has exposed how terrible most are.
Hell, I’d be shocked if those guys didn’t get closer to six or seven inches.


It was obscene. They were good enough on their own, but when hitters knew they had to chase garbage pitches or else have them called strikes, it just wasn’t even a little bit fair.

[The Operator]

Aquino HBP


Bases loaded for Joey


1 out

[Ron Madden]

Bases Loaded!

[JFLegal]

bases loaded! let's go!

[zigbeenuthouse]

Oh, Boy....Aquino hit and to first.....sacks JUICED:jump:

[SomeCallMeTim]

A Votto oppo double sure would be nice....

[The Operator]

Rayburn wanted to ring him up but it wasn’t a strike

2-2 count

[The Operator]

Aaaggghh


Joey K’s after working the count full

[JFLegal]

jeez, votto missed that by 3 feet.

[JarrodOnVinyl]

Very un-Joey-like chasing strike 3

[Coopdaddy67]

Suarez was locked up. Just missed, thankfully.

[zigbeenuthouse]

:bang:

[The Operator]

Welp, that’s a bummer


Bases loaded with 1 out and nothing to show for it.


They do, however, still plate a run earlier in the inning so it’s a 5-3 game

[RedlegsFanatic]

I think I rather play Atlanta than San Diego

[Ron Madden]

Every game will start at the same time tomorrow

[zigbeenuthouse]

Keep here. Got two more cracks although Reds have not ever had success vs Sergio Romo.

[The Operator]

The double fest continues


Jeez

[WrongVerb]

Did they print the positioning cards backwards or something?

[TexasRedsFan]

He hit some big home runs, but overall a poor season offensively for Suarez. He's pretty much clinched a sub .200 BA.

[adkindo]

He hit some big home runs, but overall a poor season offensively for Suarez.

that defines over half the lineup

[The Operator]

This guy Arraez having the absolute game of his life


Disco is a shell of the pitcher we saw late last season. His stuff is absolutely flat.

[Tom Servo]

No answer for Luis Arraez today

[The Operator]

Goodwin hurt?

[Reds Fanatic]

This is strange trainers out to see Goodwin

[The Operator]

7-3 as Senzel’s throw didn’t have a chance but they nab a runner at second on Casali’s relay

[Reds Fanatic]

Brewers beat the Cards 3-0

[TexasRedsFan]

that defines over half the lineup

True, but most aren't under .200 bad. Shogo and Moose have at least made their numbers respectable of late.

Offense is still a huge concern for me going into post season. Yes, we have the starters to compete every day, but we still have to score runs.

This one is over. Hope they can finish strong tomorrow.

[SomeCallMeTim]

Do the Reds have the tie breaker with Giants?

Cueto pitching for SF.

[zigbeenuthouse]

How does the first round work with best of 5? Are all games played at the original home team park or do they split it 3-2

[The Operator]

How does the first round work with best of 5? Are all games played at the original home team park or do they split it 3-2

First round is best of 3 with all games at the park of the higher seed

[RedlegsFanatic]

Well, if the Padres can win tonight it won’t matter, but tomorrow will determine if the Reds go to Atlanta or LA.
That is so huge, would mean playing the Dodgers all 3 games in LA right out of the gate, or not having to play them until the NLCS and having 3 games in Cincinnati. As I write this Tatis Jr just put the Padres up 1-0

[The Operator]

Bob Steve enters the game. The Reds surrender.


Let’s get ‘em tomorrow and end with a winning record.

[The Operator]

Bob hits the first batter


And Chris reminds us that the last few outings for Bob were “a little on the rough side”.



Ya don’t say

[RedlegsFanatic]

I’d live to see 4 Playoff teams come from the Central.
That would be cool.
If Milwaukee wins tomorrow, and SF loses tonight & tomorrow, the Brewers would be the 2nd WC

[The Operator]

Casali guns the runner down! Nice


1 out

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Ah, he’s out. Not enough evidence to overturn that

[Ron Madden]

It could be better to play LA in first round rather than later... Reds would only have to beat'em 2 times that way.

[RedlegsFanatic]

So the only way for the Phillies to get in is if they win tomorrow, St Louis wins tomorrow, and the Giants lose last 2?
As I write this Padres up 2-0 now

[The Operator]

They uphold the call. That’s the right thing to do.


Nowhere near enough evidence to overturn that

[Reds Fanatic]

Phillies lost again. They are still alive barely. If the Giants win a game they are eliminated

[The Operator]

It could be better to play LA in first round rather than later... Reds would only have to beat'em 2 times that way.

I agree. I shudder to think of playing them, but you’ll have to beat good teams along the way no matter what.

We can line our pitching up and take it to them. I’d love to knock The Dodgers off their perch.

[RedlegsFanatic]

It could be better to play LA in first round rather than later... Reds would only have to beat'em 2 times that way.

Yes, but later means 2 other teams with chance to upset them first.
We haven’t fared well at all in LA for 10 years.

[adkindo]

the issue with that challenge is if they had called him safe is he eventually slid off the base and the only reason Garcia pulled the tag was because the ump called him out.....if he had not called him out, Garcia likely keeps the tag applied and he would have been out when he slid off the base

[Ron Madden]

Yes, but later means 2 other teams with chance to upset them first.
We haven’t fared well at all in LA for 10 years.
We can beat them

[zigbeenuthouse]

Reds losing this game is really only disconcerting when you view Castillo effort. He has to recover for the playoffs or he won't be given much rope against whomever.

[adkindo]

Yes, but later means 2 other teams with chance to upset them first.
We haven’t fared well at all in LA for 10 years.

you sound like my friends that are Dodger fans....they want no part of the Reds in a 3 game series....or they at least prefer someone without our 3 starters in a short series. They keep telling me how it would be better for the Reds to play someone else as if I can control the outcome.

[RedlegsFanatic]

I’d MUCH rather play Atlanta.
Let someone else beat LA.
With their heavy lefty power lineup... we prob get outscored 7-1 minimum in our 2 games.
Game 3 would not be necessary.
Unless Bauer just pitched out his mind and shut them out.
And we find a way to scratch across a run.
No CHANCE I want LA in the WC round.
U gotta be absolutely crazy to want that.

[JFLegal]

cue-to! cue-to! cue-to!

[SomeCallMeTim]

It could be better to play LA in first round rather than later... Reds would only have to beat'em 2 times that way.

It is such a double edge sword...can’t argue with the logic of winning 2 of 3 is easier, with but you can’t deny they are the best in the NL until proven otherwise.

I still just don’t see this team having the clutch hitting it needs to win.

[RedlegsFanatic]

you sound like my friends that are Dodger fans....they want no part of the Reds in a 3 game series....or they at least prefer someone without our 3 starters in a short series. They keep telling me how it would be better for the Reds to play someone else as if I can control the outcome.
Our 3?
Castillo is def not last year’s Castillo.
He’s shown signs lately... but he can easily have nights like tonight where it’s barrel after barrel.
I love having Sonny and Bauer at the top, Castillo worries me tho.
Any fan base should be dead worried about facing the Reds in a 3 game set, we could fart also... ESPECIALLY on the road in the west. I just think we have a MUCH better chance at beating the Braves. Where the GOTTA WIN NOW expectations aren’t as high.

[The Operator]

Welp that’s that

30-29


Let’s clinch that winning record tomorrow

[Tom Servo]

Reds losing this game is really only disconcerting when you view Castillo effort. He has to recover for the playoffs or he won't be given much rope against whomever.
It was a disappointing outing given his recent starts for sure but he wasn't plagued by walks or HRs, just some hard hit balls and some bad luck. Wouldn't be too concerned about him.

[Ron Madden]

Box Score

https://www.mlb.com/gameday/reds-vs-twins/2020/09/26/631245#game_state=final,lock_state=final,game_tab= box,game=631245

[RedlegsFanatic]

Padres now up 3-0 on Cueto.
Unless the Giants can rally, looks like we are going to Atlanta.

[davereds24]

I’d MUCH rather play Atlanta.
Let someone else beat LA.
With their heavy lefty power lineup... we prob get outscored 7-1 minimum in our 2 games.
Game 3 would not be necessary.
Unless Bauer just pitched out his mind and shut them out.
And we find a way to scratch across a run.
No CHANCE I want LA in the WC round.
U gotta be absolutely crazy to want that.

I don't think some people on this board realize how good LA is. I think they've only lost 1 or 2 series all season. Traveling out to LA and beating them in their park is highly unlikely. This team can barely score runs in NL central parks.

[RedlegsFanatic]

I don't think some people on this board realize how good LA is. I think they've only lost 1 or 2 series all season. Traveling out to LA and beating them in their park is highly unlikely. This team can barely score runs in NL central parks.

I highly agree lol
Chances we roll into LA and take 2 of 3 would be around 10% in my opinion.
Chances of winning 4 of 7, traveling, 3 at home, etc, gives a better chance I think.

[RedlegsFanatic]

I have MLB extra innings and I play Fanduel/Draftkings every night.
So I watch everyone all season. And this Dodgers team just flat out rakes.
Their 8th & 9th guys like Will Smith, Rios, Joc, Kiki, Chris Taylor, all just flat out hit... and hit HR’s.
I’ve not even mentioned Betts, Bellinger, Seager, Turner, Pollock, or Muncy lol!

I mean.... Pollock is hitting 9th for them tonight for Pete’s sake ����

[SomeCallMeTim]

I highly agree lol
Chances we roll into LA and take 2 of 3 would be around 10% in my opinion.
Chances of winning 4 of 7, traveling, 3 at home, etc, gives a better chance I think.

There are no home games for any team after round 1!

It is all neutral sites. LA and SD will host AL games, Houston and Arlington will host NL games. World Series is in Arlington.

[SomeCallMeTim]

https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/mlb-playoffs-schedule-2020-postseason-dates-tv-info-neutral-sites-for-october-baseball-games/

[kaldaniels]

I have MLB extra innings and I play Fanduel/Draftkings every night.
So I watch everyone all season. And this Dodgers team just flat out rakes.
Their 8th & 9th guys like Will Smith, Rios, Joc, Kiki, Chris Taylor, all just flat out hit... and hit HR’s.
I’ve not even mentioned Betts, Bellinger, Seager, Turner, Pollock, or Muncy lol!

I mean.... Pollock is hitting 9th for them tonight for Pete’s sake ����

Joc and Hernandez are having very poor years hitting. Bellinger is struggling relative to his reputation. Muncy pretty much league average.

You are either just not looking and listing everyone of their hitters or you are simply giving them way too much credit.

They are tough, but in a 3 game series, with our top-3 starters each guaranteed to go, they are beatable.

[757690]

Joc and Hernandez are having very poor years hitting. Bellinger is struggling relative to his reputation. Muncy pretty much league average.

You are either just not looking and listing everyone of their hitters or you are simply giving them way too much credit.

They are tough, but in a 3 game series, with our top-3 starters each guaranteed to go, they are beatable.

2nd most runs scored in the majors, over 100 runs more than the Reds. The Dodgers offense is more than tough. But I do agree they are beatable, but only because every team is beatable in a 3 game series.

[kaldaniels]

2nd most runs scored in the majors, over 100 runs more than the Reds. The Dodgers offense is more than tough. But I do agree they are beatable, but only because every team is beatable in a 3 game series.

If you are going to say that the Reds can only beat LA because this is baseball and every team is beatable, the same way the Pirates could possibly go into LA and win a 3 game series I disagree.

In a 3 game series, Bauer/Castillo/Gray gives you a fighting chance (not just a "every team has a chance" chance) for victory.

[foster15]

2nd most runs scored in the majors, over 100 runs more than the Reds. The Dodgers offense is more than tough. But I do agree they are beatable, but only because every team is beatable in a 3 game series.

Dodgers 9 opponents this year in pitching era rankings: 5 9 12 18 21 23 23(tie), 25 28 (added together 154 or 155 if you give 23.5 for the tie)

Reds 9 opponents this year in pitching era rankings: 2 3 6 8 10 11 15 19 29 (added together 103).

That's a big advantage to the Dodger hitters. This year you have to look deeper into stats because anyone we play in the playoffs and world series not from AL or NL central played a totally different schedule and it's like whole different worlds.

[JFLegal]

I have MLB extra innings and I play Fanduel/Draftkings every night.
So I watch everyone all season. And this Dodgers team just flat out rakes.
Their 8th & 9th guys like Will Smith, Rios, Joc, Kiki, Chris Taylor, all just flat out hit... and hit HR’s.
I’ve not even mentioned Betts, Bellinger, Seager, Turner, Pollock, or Muncy lol!

I mean.... Pollock is hitting 9th for them tonight for Pete’s sake ����

yeah, i'm good with not playing the best team in baseball in the first round, if possible.

[Umkubas]

overall a poor season offensively for Suarez. He's pretty much clinched a sub .200 BA.

I agree........the Suarez lovers, there are many, will point out 2019’s 49 home runs. Yes, great, earned him $9,535,71, and in 2021 $10,785,714 and in 2022 $11,285,714 and in 2023 $11,285,715 and in 2024 $11,285,715.

Someone mentioned Chris Davis in a past Suarez thread.

Singles and Doubles earn wins.

[JFLegal]

I agree........the Suarez lovers, there are many, will point out 2019’s 49 home runs. Yes, great, earned him $9,535,71, and in 2021 $10,785,714 and in 2022 $11,285,714 and in 2023 $11,285,715 and in 2024 $11,285,715.

Someone mentioned Chris Davis in a past Suarez thread.

Singles and Doubles earn wins.

yes, what a minor detail. 49 home runs in a season. it's only tied for the second-most in reds' history.

[JFLegal]

here we go. padres are not trying to win this game. now down to a one-run lead.

[foster15]

I agree........the Suarez lovers, there are many, will point out 2019’s 49 home runs. Yes, great, earned him $9,535,71, and in 2021 $10,785,714 and in 2022 $11,285,714 and in 2023 $11,285,715 and in 2024 $11,285,715.

Someone mentioned Chris Davis in a past Suarez thread.

Singles and Doubles earn wins.

Other than this season, where he's coming off of surgery, and no spring training, can you tell me what was wrong with his previous 5 seasons with the Reds and detail how it's siimilar to Chris Davis?

[JFLegal]

as i said, the padres DO want to win this game. lol. pads up by 4.

we have the 7 seed all but locked up. need 3 more outs.

[757690]

If you are going to say that the Reds can only beat LA because this is baseball and every team is beatable, the same way the Pirates could possibly go into LA and win a 3 game series I disagree.

In a 3 game series, Bauer/Castillo/Gray gives you a fighting chance (not just a "every team has a chance" chance) for victory.

Purely semantics, but if every team is beatable, it doesn’t matter what the rotation is for any team. You could have the clone of Tom Seaver pitching every game, but if every team is beatable, then that’s the first and only reason, and the same would be true if you had the 2017 Reds rotation.

[757690]

Dodgers 9 opponents this year in pitching era rankings: 5 9 12 18 21 23 23(tie), 25 28 (added together 154 or 155 if you give 23.5 for the tie)

Reds 9 opponents this year in pitching era rankings: 2 3 6 8 10 11 15 19 29 (added together 103).

That's a big advantage to the Dodger hitters. This year you have to look deeper into stats because anyone we play in the playoffs and world series not from AL or NL central played a totally different schedule and it's like whole different worlds.

That’s a good point. However, pitching staffs that face the Dodgers and Padres all the time are going to be ranked low, while pitching staffs that face the Reds and Pirates are going to be ranked high. It’s a chicken or the egg question.

[foster15]

That’s a good point. However, pitching staffs that face the Dodgers and Padres all the time are going to be ranked low, while pitching staffs that face the Reds and Pirates are going to be ranked high. It’s a chicken or the egg question.

It is a chicken and egg question. But here's the thing, if you look at each of the 3 pods of teams(AL/NL-east, AL/NL-central, AL/NL-west) you see a very noticeable grouping in the team stats both offensively and defensively. So while the central are all over the bottom of the batting stats, they are bunched in the top of the pitching stats. The other two (regions I guess I'll call them) are top of batting stats and bottom of pitching stats. That tells me that the stats are terribly misleading. Also, teams that play the Dodgers and Padres only play them up to 33 percent of their games leaving 67 percent playing the other which means if their pitching is much better than than the stats say, while they shouldn't be at the top of the stats, they also shouldn't be bunched at the bottom.

My point isn't that the Dodgers aren't that good, my point is that by playing a schedule in a bubble that doesn't have overlap, you can't really use those stats to make much of a point other than they are better than the other 9 teams their bubble. If the stats showed more diversity within each bubble I might think differently.