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RedsBrick
10-01-2020, 02:53 PM
Well at least they're not looking pathetic or anything

...so we got that goin' for us...which is kinda nice.

tomnuetten
10-01-2020, 02:53 PM
Suarez looked as bad as he did with a bat in his hands today. But shouldn't have been his catch...

TheBigLebowski
10-01-2020, 02:53 PM
Yeah, Senzel still has time to be something, Votto will have spurts at times but he is washed as a star. He's hanging by a thread as a serviceable everyday player

Senzel is a walking band-aid who isn't nearly the hitter we were lead to believe. I'd love to see them dump him, but most of the other teams out there have probably done their homework on him and want no part of him.

*BaseClogger*
10-01-2020, 02:53 PM
What did Shogo do to have everybody dunking on him in this game thread?

LaFlamaBlanca
10-01-2020, 02:53 PM
Please make it stop

CaiGuy
10-01-2020, 02:54 PM
Ump helping out the Braves a little more.

Joeyjection19
10-01-2020, 02:54 PM
I've heard cricket is a good sport. Maybe Cincinnati could get a cricket club and ruin that sport for me before I start following it.

kendooo16
10-01-2020, 02:54 PM
What human who makes that much money to hit homeruns acts like he's taking a selfy after hitting a homerun? Then proceeds to show everyone again in the dugout in case they missed it. I'm probably just old, but win or lose sports is becoming almost impossible for me to watch.

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The Operator
10-01-2020, 02:54 PM
I tried to tell you all that if the Reds somehow managed to sneak into the playoffs they were going to get embarrassed. But even I didn't predict the total ineptitude we are seeing. Now let's go for that scoreless record!

Go away

BCubb2003
10-01-2020, 02:54 PM
Lollygaggers!

Recent playoff appearances have been soul-crushing. The no-hitter, the Giants comeback, and this. But at least they were there.

vlwalton
10-01-2020, 02:54 PM
I never want to see Goodwin play in a Reds uniform again....just awful

Red Buckeye
10-01-2020, 02:55 PM
Between the Reds and Bengals, how many of the worst coaches currently coaching in NFL and MLB do we have?

Bell, Reds Hitting Coach, Taylor, Bengals Oline Coach are all easily in this category

RedsBrick
10-01-2020, 02:55 PM
I've heard cricket is a good sport. Maybe Cincinnati could get a cricket club and ruin that sport for me before I start following it.

They might be good. They have a lot of practice swinging at pitches in the dirt.

T Harper
10-01-2020, 02:55 PM
Pro sports in Ohio is a total disaster!

Kc61
10-01-2020, 02:55 PM
Duvall’s revenge.

NebraskaRed
10-01-2020, 02:55 PM
I never want to see Goodwin play in a Reds uniform again....just awful

I doubt you will. I don't see any benefit to holding on to him.

Reds Fanatic
10-01-2020, 02:55 PM
Duvall homers

Rojo Rijo
10-01-2020, 02:55 PM
Can't stand Suarez. Yucking it up at 3rd yesterday with Acuna despite playing worse than Roger Dorn. Even his swings look lazy.

The Operator
10-01-2020, 02:55 PM
Lol of course Adam Duvall

vaticanplum
10-01-2020, 02:56 PM
You've got to be kidding me

ochoa30
10-01-2020, 02:56 PM
It’s ok guys. We’re a ******* nightmare!

foster15
10-01-2020, 02:56 PM
The icing on the cake.

tomnuetten
10-01-2020, 02:56 PM
What human who makes that much money to hit homeruns acts like he's taking a selfy after hitting a homerun? Then proceeds to show everyone again in the dugout in case they missed it. I'm probably just old, but win or lose sports is becoming almost impossible for me to watch.

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having fun after (most likely) securing the first postseason series win in 19 years is fine with me...

I`d love to see some reds having fun...

CaiGuy
10-01-2020, 02:56 PM
Did these 4 runs matter? Nah

The Operator
10-01-2020, 02:56 PM
It’s ok guys. We’re a ******* nightmare!

And everyone knows it

Ron Gant
10-01-2020, 02:56 PM
I'm beyond jealous of the Braves.

TexasRedsFan
10-01-2020, 02:56 PM
I'm sure David Bell still believes in his guys. And Votto will say we'll be an f-n monster next year. Clueless, all of them.

Tom Servo
10-01-2020, 02:56 PM
I knew the Duvall moment was coming, at least it no longer mattered.

RedsBrick
10-01-2020, 02:57 PM
Gotta move on from the Russian Roulette of Iggy.

Reds Fanatic
10-01-2020, 02:58 PM
Big changes are needed. I would start with Bell's firing tomorrow

bm1475
10-01-2020, 02:58 PM
I knew the Duvall moment was coming, at least it no longer mattered.

I absolutely saw at least one person call it yesterday, haha

lnn6574
10-01-2020, 02:58 PM
It’s ok guys. We’re a ******* nightmare!

He’s right. So are the last three years of his contract.


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Bushman
10-01-2020, 02:58 PM
SMH at Iggy. I've never been a fan of that dude. Sucks

westofyou
10-01-2020, 02:58 PM
https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-EvVVsFOKLjE/XK9V8rj2mqI/AAAAAAAAnuQ/FVxt3BwyfYwfjl4eOga9Ib0kXhM_l41xACLcBGAs/s1600/buttermaker-cries.gif

RedTeamGo!
10-01-2020, 02:58 PM
Vasgerian just threw out a subtle dig at Votto:

“Reds having a....NIGHTMARISH...9th inning”

Well deserved. That’s what happens when you talk **** before you walk. It makes you a meme. Congrats Joey.

NebraskaRed
10-01-2020, 02:58 PM
The team has too many obvious flaws. They got in the playoffs because they were expanded but there's just no way they were going to get very far.

I mean, I thought they'd at least put up a fight, but still.

Rojo Rijo
10-01-2020, 02:58 PM
Probably more of the same next year except the very real potential we don't keep Bauer and it's 100% the offenses fault.

malcontent
10-01-2020, 02:58 PM
Senzel is a walking band-aid who isn't nearly the hitter we were lead to believe. I'd love to see them dump him, but most of the other teams out there have probably done their homework on him and want no part of him.
Agree 100%. I couldn't believe how he jammed his shoulder yesterday. Dude is literally made of glass.

Phoenix2
10-01-2020, 02:59 PM
As they say at the college world series...two and barbeque...

Tom Servo
10-01-2020, 02:59 PM
Vasgerian just threw out a subtle dig at Votto:

“Reds having a....NIGHTMARISH...9th inning”

Well deserved. That’s what happens when you talk **** before you walk. It makes you a meme. Congrats Joey.
Nobody is going to remember the Nightmare line two days from now.

TexasRedsFan
10-01-2020, 02:59 PM
Hopefully we'll get to see Janikowski run in the 9th inning to complete this regression back to the early season.

REDREAD
10-01-2020, 02:59 PM
lyrics not really safe for work (She's sings "I'm a f.. monster)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVQqZg5BisE&ab_channel=MegMyers

Reds Fanatic
10-01-2020, 02:59 PM
there is another hit

Crumbley
10-01-2020, 02:59 PM
Having trouble believing that the roster assembled by ownership’s kid and managed by the grandson of ownership’s childhood hero is continually embarrassed by teams who do not have those large handicaps

RedTeamGo!
10-01-2020, 02:59 PM
Reds managers still refuse to understand Iglesias should not be used when you are down. It’s wild.

mhs95_06
10-01-2020, 02:59 PM
One run given up in 20 innings before Reds pitching blows up. If you never score runs, pitching can never win the game!

CaiGuy
10-01-2020, 02:59 PM
Mlb.tv shows thr 3 HR game from Suarez just to rub it in.

TheBigLebowski
10-01-2020, 02:59 PM
I never want to see Goodwin play in a Reds uniform again....just awful

I don't want to see any of them except the 3 starters.

vaticanplum
10-01-2020, 02:59 PM
How is there still only one out dear god

BCubb2003
10-01-2020, 02:59 PM
These Braves can’t score without hitting home runs. Must be something wrong with them.

Bushman
10-01-2020, 03:00 PM
Probably more of the same next year except the very real potential we don't keep Bauer and it's 100% the offenses fault.

This team isn't here without Bauer so....

RedTeamGo!
10-01-2020, 03:00 PM
Nobody is going to remember the Nightmare line two days from now.

Reds fans will. I know I will. Embarrassing.

Kc61
10-01-2020, 03:00 PM
A Rod does know about hitting and his comments on the Reds’ approach at the plate seem well taken.

Rojo Rijo
10-01-2020, 03:00 PM
I'd trade Senzel to Cleveland just to let them develop Hunter Greene and give him back. We're almost certain to screw him up too. He's got Pedro potential and we'll make him Ramon.

1990worldchamps
10-01-2020, 03:00 PM
I don't know if this or the no hitter is worse. I hope this is an interesting offseason.

kendooo16
10-01-2020, 03:00 PM
I must be a traditionalist... per a rod

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tomnuetten
10-01-2020, 03:01 PM
I'm sure David Bell still believes in his guys. And Votto will say we'll be an f-n monster next year. Clueless, all of them.

I'm not a fan of big words before games. I rather be quiet and deliver on the field.

But I do believe that this team did in fact need a little bit of self confidence going forward. They most likely know that they were terrible all year (except for pitching obviously)...

CaiGuy
10-01-2020, 03:01 PM
Reds fans will. I know I will. Embarrassing.

That's what you care about? lol

Tom Servo
10-01-2020, 03:01 PM
Reds fans will. I know I will. Embarrassing.
Right we’ll sit there in shame while everyone else instantly forgets about us.

some of you guys are like pigs in slop right now.

Ron Gant
10-01-2020, 03:01 PM
Well technically we got to play October baseball. So....yay.?.?

RedTeamGo!
10-01-2020, 03:01 PM
Having trouble believing that the roster assembled by ownership’s kid and managed by the grandson of ownership’s childhood hero is continually embarrassed by team’s who do not have those large handicaps

At least the Reds didn’t cheat like the Braves did to assemble their team.

I agree with your overall point, but the Braves are shady as **** and cheated in the international market for years. **** them.

Bushman
10-01-2020, 03:01 PM
Reds managers still refuse to understand Iglesias should not be used when you are down. It’s wild.

Shouldn't be used at all IMO.

Rojo Rijo
10-01-2020, 03:02 PM
At least the Reds didn’t cheat like the Braves did to assemble their team.

I agree with your overall point, but the Braves are shady as **** and cheated in the international market for years. **** them.

Facts

VR
10-01-2020, 03:02 PM
Not sure why Bauer, or any pitcher, would want to sign that is historically bad at the plate and on the bases. Defense tragic as well.


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Crumbley
10-01-2020, 03:03 PM
The 37 year old with one career post season RBI popping off like Baker Mayfield is very curious

Reds Fanatic
10-01-2020, 03:03 PM
It is finally over. So this season will be over very shortly

kendooo16
10-01-2020, 03:04 PM
One more and I'll go away... did Arod take selfish after homeruns, or just more steroids?

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ochoa30
10-01-2020, 03:04 PM
Not sure why Bauer, or any pitcher, would want to sign that is historically bad at the plate and on the bases. Defense tragic as well.


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He won’t. He’s gone.

50YrRedsFan
10-01-2020, 03:04 PM
What was the point in replacing Iglesias when the game is lost. Just prolonging the misery.

15fan
10-01-2020, 03:04 PM
This 9th inning rally is going to be legendary.

foster15
10-01-2020, 03:04 PM
Okay guys, back to back to back to back to back to back home runs and we can take the lead

REDREAD
10-01-2020, 03:04 PM
Not sure why Bauer, or any pitcher, would want to sign that is historically bad at the plate and on the bases. Defense tragic as well.


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Yep, Bauer is likely gone.
Some big market team will let him do the workouts he likes, let him occasionally pitch on short rest, etc .. the same benefits the Reds do.

Bushman
10-01-2020, 03:04 PM
Great inning for Iggy.

CaiGuy
10-01-2020, 03:04 PM
I'd say go for the 6 spot, but maybe they should shoot for 7 just in case?

Phoenix2
10-01-2020, 03:04 PM
2020 is the year a Reds pitcher (finally) won a Cy Young award. That's it.

T Harper
10-01-2020, 03:04 PM
In other news, YouTube TV dropped Fox Sports Ohio.

Rantly
10-01-2020, 03:04 PM
lyrics not really safe for work (She's sings "I'm a f.. monster)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVQqZg5BisE&ab_channel=MegMyers

Thanks I enjoyed that, even with no volume.

TheBigLebowski
10-01-2020, 03:05 PM
It would be a fitting end to see Castellanos, Votto and Suarez strike out on 9 pitches. Come on, guys.

NebraskaRed
10-01-2020, 03:05 PM
I don't follow teams in the same way that I do the Reds, so maybe a lot of teams do this, but I just don't know why the Reds continue with players/approaches/strategies that aren't working. It's like a manta: "stick with the plan" even though the plan never works.

lnn6574
10-01-2020, 03:05 PM
Reds managers still refuse to understand Iglesias should not be used when you are down. It’s wild.

Shouldn’t be used period.


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Reds Fanatic
10-01-2020, 03:06 PM
2020 is the year a Reds pitcher (finally) won a Cy Young award. That's it.

I wouldn't even count on that

foster15
10-01-2020, 03:06 PM
I'd say go for the 6 spot, but maybe they should shoot for 7 just in case?

You're right, we already used our lights out closer.

Larry Schuler
10-01-2020, 03:06 PM
I’m hoping for at least 2 Reds to strike out swinging and fall down and tear their pants.

RedsfaninMT
10-01-2020, 03:07 PM
Don't know if already posted, as it's too painful to go through all the posts, but give Votto credit..."we're a nightmare."

vaticanplum
10-01-2020, 03:07 PM
It would be a fitting end to see Castellanos, Votto and Suarez strike out on 9 pitches. Come on, guys.

I still want my run.

CaiGuy
10-01-2020, 03:07 PM
Just need 6 solo HR's

T Harper
10-01-2020, 03:08 PM
Meaningless HR coming up?

Reds Fanatic
10-01-2020, 03:08 PM
Fitting Castellanos strikes out looking

TheBigLebowski
10-01-2020, 03:08 PM
I still want my run.

OK. Let's go get that run, boys.

JaxRed
10-01-2020, 03:09 PM
Thanks I enjoyed that, even with no volume.

She made some good points....

ochoa30
10-01-2020, 03:09 PM
I really hope Castellanos opts out but he sucked so bad we’re probably stuck with him

Old school 1983
10-01-2020, 03:09 PM
Votto looks like the only hitter that has a clue of how to do anything besides swing for a home run.

Phoenix2
10-01-2020, 03:09 PM
What's your infamous moment of the short series? Has to be the whiff on the double steal, no?

reds77
10-01-2020, 03:10 PM
Let the offseason begin!

The Operator
10-01-2020, 03:10 PM
I really hope Castellanos opts out but he sucked so bad we’re probably stuck with him

He’s been such a huge disappointment. I was really excited about him.

Ron Gant
10-01-2020, 03:10 PM
I don't like how ARod pronounces "Cincinnati".
Yea, I'm that level of annoyed at this point.

Reds Fanatic
10-01-2020, 03:10 PM
Votto grounds out back to the pitcher

wally post
10-01-2020, 03:10 PM
Suarez dropping that foul ball is what did it for me. I want to see heads roll.

RedsBrick
10-01-2020, 03:10 PM
JV crushed it!

Rojo Rijo
10-01-2020, 03:10 PM
I was such a huge supporter of signing Castellanos but I can't help but hope he opts out. I don't even know what we could replace/upgrade with but I don't even care.

RedTeamGo!
10-01-2020, 03:10 PM
Well sounds like A-Rod just confirmed a story with numbers. Buster even said “wow” like it wasn’t supposed to be on the record.

Reds offered Ozuna $50 mil over 3 years and he said no.

The Operator
10-01-2020, 03:11 PM
Joey with the blooper back to the mound


1 more out until we’re out of our misery

BluegrassRedleg
10-01-2020, 03:11 PM
Hang ‘em up, 19. All you can do moving forward is torpedo your HOF chances.


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RedTeamGo!
10-01-2020, 03:11 PM
I was such a huge supporter of signing Castellanos but I can't help but hope he opts out. I don't even know what we could replace/upgrade with but I don't even care.

He looks jersey shore dumb, but he’s not that dumb. He’s re-upping.

Bushman
10-01-2020, 03:11 PM
He’s been such a huge disappointment. I was really excited about him.

He can walk. $16 mil a year for this garbage? Nah. I'll pass.

Reds Fanatic
10-01-2020, 03:11 PM
So the Reds managed 2 singles all day one was a lucky break when the ball hit the bag

Wonderful Monds
10-01-2020, 03:11 PM
Man this organization is embarrassing

wally post
10-01-2020, 03:12 PM
watch the strike. Swing at the ball. Watch the winning team celebrate...

TheBigLebowski
10-01-2020, 03:12 PM
I really hope Castellanos opts out but he sucked so bad we’re probably stuck with him

Yeah, you and me both.

Here's the thing - if he stays, he'll be terrible again next year.

If he does elsewhere, he'll magically become better.

Reds Fanatic
10-01-2020, 03:12 PM
Geno flies out to the track in left. Just pitiful.

vaticanplum
10-01-2020, 03:12 PM
Well.

Roy Tucker
10-01-2020, 03:12 PM
Ballgame.

TexasRedsFan
10-01-2020, 03:12 PM
All over but the firing hopefully.

The Operator
10-01-2020, 03:12 PM
Absolutely pathetic


I hate being a Reds fan

Tom Servo
10-01-2020, 03:12 PM
Brutal. Still, better than making it at all. See you boys next season.

RedTeamGo!
10-01-2020, 03:12 PM
Fried and Anderson are very talented and deserve some credit, but this was because of the Reds offensive incompetence more than their talent.

Alabama Red
10-01-2020, 03:12 PM
Fitting that Suarez got the last out.

Stray
10-01-2020, 03:12 PM
At least it's over.

16582

Ron Gant
10-01-2020, 03:13 PM
Votto was right. Nightmare. Only thing he hit right on the nose the last several weeks.

Rojo Rijo
10-01-2020, 03:13 PM
95 million left for Votto. These next 4 years are going to be so ugly. I know he said he would retire with money left on his deal but I'm not buying it. He'll play because he'll still want to play.

RedTeamGo!
10-01-2020, 03:13 PM
Brutal. Still, better than making it at all. See you boys next season.

Tom, we will talk to you later today. None of us are taking a 6 month break.

NebraskaRed
10-01-2020, 03:13 PM
Reds with back to back shutouts is a fine addition to their history of playoff embarrassments

SomeCallMeTim
10-01-2020, 03:13 PM
For those of a certain age...

So pitiful you have to laugh.

https://youtu.be/zxYsgRsNg2s

Roy Tucker
10-01-2020, 03:13 PM
Reds hitters need to take the Reds pitchers out to dinner tonight

Larry Schuler
10-01-2020, 03:13 PM
Hey. If you’re gonna lose to a team, at least it’s one that always plays tough during the—

*Announcer states that the Braves have just won their first post season series in 19 years*

JarrodOnVinyl
10-01-2020, 03:13 PM
Glad we made the postseason. Didn’t work out this year. Hopefully we’ll come back on opening day with a new hitting coach and manager

malcontent
10-01-2020, 03:13 PM
Suarez dropping that foul ball is what did it for me. I want to see heads roll.
How many?

:roll::roll::roll:

vlwalton
10-01-2020, 03:13 PM
we'll get em next year.....

Crumbley
10-01-2020, 03:13 PM
Can’t blame the offense here, you gotta tip your cap to literally every single pitcher in MLB

RedsBrick
10-01-2020, 03:14 PM
All over but the firing hopefully.

I wish it would happen....but they won't do it. Bell will be back.

Bushman
10-01-2020, 03:15 PM
Didn't really deserve to be in the playoffs. Gonna be a while before they get back unless half MLB makes it....again

vlwalton
10-01-2020, 03:15 PM
How many?

:roll::roll::roll::roll::roll::roll::roll:

The organization needs an overhaul starting with a replacement of Dick Williams with someone other than a friend or family member. Let the new President make the decisions on who stays and goes.

- - - Updated - - -


How many?

:roll::roll::roll::roll::roll::roll::roll:

The organization needs an overhaul starting with a replacement of Dick Williams with someone other than a friend or family member. Let the new President make the decisions on who stays and goes.

REDREAD
10-01-2020, 03:17 PM
This series shows that MLB should never do an expanded playoffs again.

Tom Servo
10-01-2020, 03:17 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnlPtaPxXfc


Tom, we will talk to you later today. None of us are taking a 6 month break.
Oh of course not. I just meant for the game threads, I'm not going anywhere.

TheBigLebowski
10-01-2020, 03:18 PM
Yeah, it's time to question my loyalty. I'm still a young guy. Nothing in the Bible nor the Constitution says that I have to stay tethered to this roach motel of an organization because I was born in the city limits.

I've never "quit" any team - even the Bungles. But this leaves such a bad taste in my mouth..this is an incredibly bad team to like. Knowing they can't piss me off again for several months is a relief.

I'm sure I won't be able to walk away. Best I can do is probably hate-watch, like I used to do with Full House.

Screw off, 2020 Reds.

T Harper
10-01-2020, 03:18 PM
I really hope Castellanos opts out but he sucked so bad we’re probably stuck with him

And Votto retires.

The Operator
10-01-2020, 03:19 PM
This playoff series feels about like:

Dianna Agron shows up at my front door and says “Operator, I need you”.

Wife shrugs and says “You know what? Why not. Go for it! Have fun!”

At that moment a witch flies by and turns me into a eunuch.


That’s what this felt like.

wally post
10-01-2020, 03:20 PM
How many?

:roll::roll::roll: Manager and GM would start the ball rolling.

TheBigLebowski
10-01-2020, 03:20 PM
95 million left for Votto. These next 4 years are going to be so ugly. I know he said he would retire with money left on his deal but I'm not buying it. He'll play because he'll still want to play.

Relax. He'll start using a shorter bat, choking up even more and stop extending his arms altogether when he swings.

I can't even imagine how exciting it'll be to see him wandering around the infield like a drunken 79 year old at a wedding reception.

forfreelin04
10-01-2020, 03:21 PM
Somewhere... in another dimension...the Reds will continue not to score runs against the Braves. To infinity and beyond!!

Redsfan6272
10-01-2020, 03:21 PM
I dont want to hear Dick Williams or Dave Bell say "it was just bad luck" BS, it was a failure to execute. Dusty Baker is smiling watching this teams failures

malcontent
10-01-2020, 03:23 PM
Dianna Agron shows up at my front door and says “Operator, I need you”.
That's the spirit.

NebraskaRed
10-01-2020, 03:23 PM
I dont want to hear Dick Williams or Dave Bell say "it was just bad luck" BS, it was a failure to execute. Dusty Baker is smiling watching this teams failures

They clearly had a "home run or bust" approach this season, and despite the fact that it really was not working, they stuck with it.

It doesn't make sense. They stick with things (and players) that aren't working.

goreds2
10-01-2020, 03:23 PM
Still nice to be in the post season. Approach and have a plan at the plate.....

Alabama Red
10-01-2020, 03:24 PM
This team needs a complete overhaul starting at the top. With the salary commitments on the books and being a small market team coming out of Covid there is no tweaking that will make us a winner. It’s complete rebuild time.

bm1475
10-01-2020, 03:24 PM
All the dudes with ladies in their avatars are calling for the ladies in their avatars, this is hilarious

malcontent
10-01-2020, 03:26 PM
Would we really have wanted the Reds to take it all in 2020? Given the inevitable asterisks? And we'd have to defend those forever???

vlwalton
10-01-2020, 03:26 PM
They clearly had a "home run or bust" approach this season, and despite the fact that it really was not working, they stuck with it.

It doesn't make sense. They stick with things (and players) that aren't working.

Actually the Reds organization has had the HR or Bust approach for several seasons now. That's why changes needs to be made starting at the top with Dick.

TexasRedsFan
10-01-2020, 03:27 PM
This playoff series feels about like:

Dianna Agron shows up at my front door and says “Operator, I need you”.

Wife shrugs and says “You know what? Why not. Go for it! Have fun!”

At that moment a witch flies by and turns me into a eunuch.


That’s what this felt like.

You got me to google Dianna Agron since I hadn't heard of her. :D

Mutaman
10-01-2020, 03:27 PM
Let me get this straight: They played 22 innings of post season baseball and didn't score a run?

Bushman
10-01-2020, 03:28 PM
Sometimes it's not that you lose, it's how you lose. And this was the worse way to lose....without even a whimper. Some broken part of me kinda wish they'd saved the embarrassment and missed the playoffs. That's what we're used to anyway.

woodyjoe
10-01-2020, 03:28 PM
Everything that is both right and wrong with the Reds was on display these last 2 games, everything.

1. Offense
2. Defense
3. Iglesius
4. Bell
5. front office

The front office for many things that are wrong but one for me that stands out was trading Duvall. I'm a little biased since he is from my hometown, but he would be by far, our best outfielder today.

I could elaborate on these further but it's pointless.

The only only positives this year has been our starting pitching and most of our bullpen came around, except of course Iggy.

wlf WV
10-01-2020, 03:29 PM
Can’t blame the offense here, you gotta tip your cap to literally every single pitcher in MLB
22 innings and 0 runs against the team ( if I heard right)with the worst starting pitchers to make the playoffs?

The Operator
10-01-2020, 03:29 PM
You got me to google Dianna Agron since I hadn't heard of her. :D

Enjoy! She’s all kinds of gorgeous. :luvu: :luvu:

malcontent
10-01-2020, 03:30 PM
Actually the Reds organization has had the HR or Bust approach for several seasons now. That's why changes needs to be made starting at the top with Dick.
Changes also need to be made in the game itself, starting with regulating the shift, and moving fences back...

wlf WV
10-01-2020, 03:31 PM
Let me get this straight: They played 22 innings of post season baseball and didn't score a run?
And if I heard right, against the worst starting pitching to ever make the playoffs.

Bushman
10-01-2020, 03:31 PM
22 innings and 0 runs against the team with the worst starting pitchers to make the playoffs?

I think they were being sarcastic....

TexasRedsFan
10-01-2020, 03:31 PM
Would we really have wanted the Reds to take it all in 2020? Given the inevitable asterisks? And we'd have to defend those forever???

Uh......yeah.

I honestly have no idea what they do from here. They should've had a mashing offense all year, but just didn't. Getting Moose, Cast and Shogo seemed like a good plan. For whatever reason, the lineup just never meshed as a unit. Getting better on base percentage is obviously a priority, but who do they target for that? And will it make a difference since it seems like ultimately nothing does.

WVRedsFan
10-01-2020, 03:32 PM
I've stayed silent during these two playoff games. It's almost like knew what would happen. This team was not ready to contend for the NL crown yet. Holes at short, catcher, and bullpen didn't help. Time to do some dealing. I imagine Cast will opt out and Bauer will move on. The outfield is too crowded and give s Bell far too much to play with. His love affair with players like Davidson and Jankowski is horrible. Many will defend him with the 60-game season, but in my mind he simply makes too many moves during the game to be successful. Many will disagree, but many didn't agree with firing Price, so nothing new.

TexasRedsFan
10-01-2020, 03:34 PM
Enjoy! She’s all kinds of gorgeous. :luvu: :luvu:

Looks a little like Kristen Bell, who is also quite fetching.

HalKing
10-01-2020, 03:35 PM
Well..... that was a complete and total embarrassment of a series

TexasRedsFan
10-01-2020, 03:39 PM
I've stayed silent during these two playoff games. It's almost like knew what would happen. This team was not ready to contend for the NL crown yet. Holes at short, catcher, and bullpen didn't help. Time to do some dealing. I imagine Cast will opt out and Bauer will move on. The outfield is too crowded and give s Bell far too much to play with. His love affair with players like Davidson and Jankowski is horrible. Many will defend him with the 60-game season, but in my mind he simply makes too many moves during the game to be successful. Many will disagree, but many didn't agree with firing Price, so nothing new.

No disagreement from me. Bell will eventually join the Brian Prices of the world, who only get offered managerial jobs with the Cincinnati Reds. And for good reason.

Getting rid of him won't fix everything, but it would be a step toward improvement if they can replace him with someone proven like Bochy.

vlwalton
10-01-2020, 03:46 PM
The problem is that given the current front office a proven manager like Bochy will not be hired. The problem with the Reds organization starts at the top.

757690
10-01-2020, 03:55 PM
Enjoy! She’s all kinds of gorgeous. :luvu: :luvu:

She is recently single too, so there’s still hope.

foster15
10-01-2020, 04:03 PM
And Votto retires.

relax, Votto will retire as soon as he pops out to the 1st baseman twice in the same game.

SirFelixCat
10-01-2020, 04:07 PM
Sometimes it's not that you lose, it's how you lose. And this was the worse way to lose....without even a whimper. Some broken part of me kinda wish they'd saved the embarrassment and missed the playoffs. That's what we're used to anyway.

I know I'm wrong, but this is kinda exactly how I feel.

The pitching was magical (til the 9th today) and the offense was an embarassment.

Crumbley
10-01-2020, 04:09 PM
Joey Votto on FSO right now literally crying about BABIP

foster15
10-01-2020, 04:11 PM
Everything that is both right and wrong with the Reds was on display these last 2 games, everything.

1. Offense
2. Defense
3. Iglesius
4. Bell
5. front office

The front office for many things that are wrong but one for me that stands out was trading Duvall. I'm a little biased since he is from my hometown, but he would be by far, our best outfielder today.

I could elaborate on these further but it's pointless.

The only only positives this year has been our starting pitching and most of our bullpen came around, except of course Iggy.

In today's game where starters are asked to go only 5 or 6 innings usually, I'd rather watch Lucas Sims crawl up the bullpen ladder in status than watch an Adam Duvall play outfield and bat. Duvalls are a dime a dozen, great bullpen arms aren't, unless you're the Atlanta Braves playing the Cincinnati Reds.

krm1580
10-01-2020, 04:11 PM
Changes also need to be made in the game itself, starting with regulating the shift, and moving fences back...

I am ok with the fences where they are, they need to take the juice out of the balls.

krm1580
10-01-2020, 04:17 PM
Joey Votto on FSO right now literally crying about BABIP

If he wants to cry about it over the course of the season I get it. The Reds were a complete anomaly in that the entire league was between .265-310 and the Reds were at .240. But here is the key thing he is missing, the BIP part of the equation. I can't believe I am quoting A-Rod here but "Nothing good happens if you don't put the bat on the ball".

redsfanmia
10-01-2020, 04:22 PM
Yeah, it's time to question my loyalty. I'm still a young guy. Nothing in the Bible nor the Constitution says that I have to stay tethered to this roach motel of an organization because I was born in the city limits.

I've never "quit" any team - even the Bungles. But this leaves such a bad taste in my mouth..this is an incredibly bad team to like. Knowing they can't piss me off again for several months is a relief.

I'm sure I won't be able to walk away. Best I can do is probably hate-watch, like I used to do with Full House.

Screw off, 2020 Reds.

This team is my least favorite Reds team ever, so frustrating. I’ve come to the conclusion that they just aren’t serious about winning, my favorite NBA team is the same way. It’s fine but my level of interest is waning with each passing year.

MFDChief
10-01-2020, 04:33 PM
Changes also need to be made in the game itself, starting with regulating the shift, and moving fences back...

You know this comment on the shift is something that I have thought a lot about. The shift completely alters the way the game is played. For over a hundred years a line drive or hard ground ball up the middle was a base hit. Now most times they are no more than a routine out. I for one don’t like watching it. If a guy hits a hard shot up the middle the game of baseball should reward him.
The usual comeback is “take the ball the other way and beat the shift”. Well that is hard to do when big league pitchers are pounding the inside. They pitch it where they want you to hit it. Now having said that, the shift had jack squat to do with losing this series. Hell a couple of routine fly balls to the outfield would have won game one.

JFLegal
10-01-2020, 04:42 PM
what are the odds of playing 22 innings of playoff baseball and getting zero runs? has to be under 1% right? no hyperbole.

JFLegal
10-01-2020, 04:43 PM
Joey Votto on FSO right now literally crying about BABIP

votto was right about one thing though: the reds were going to be an "(effing) nightmare" in the playoffs.

we just didn't know he was inferring for reds fans it would be a nightmare.

RedTeamGo!
10-01-2020, 04:54 PM
what are the odds of playing 22 innings of playoff baseball and getting zero runs? has to be under 1% right? no hyperbole.

The even crazier part is they had 11 hits yesterday and didn’t score a run. That’s amazing.

TexasRedsFan
10-01-2020, 05:28 PM
what are the odds of playing 22 innings of playoff baseball and getting zero runs? has to be under 1% right? no hyperbole.

We'll probably never see another team accomplish it again in our lifetimes.

texasdave
10-01-2020, 05:30 PM
22 of the last 23 Reds were retired. It took the baseball hitting the bag for the Reds to get a man on.

TheBigLebowski
10-01-2020, 07:14 PM
22 of the last 23 Reds were retired. It took the baseball hitting the bag for the Reds to get a man on.

It’s truly baffling.

zigbeenuthouse
10-01-2020, 09:19 PM
Bauer will be gone and Castellanos back. Bauer wants a WS ring and a team who can hit. I can't blame him for that. Castellanos got one hellava deal from Cincinnati and could not do any better.

zigbeenuthouse
10-01-2020, 09:33 PM
Cards beat Padres and are leading tonight. Gotta wonder the difference in the two teams. Reds have great pitching. They don't have great defense like Bader provides in CF nor to they get hits with a chance to score. This went on all year.....HR or bust.

woodyjoe
10-01-2020, 09:37 PM
In today's game where starters are asked to go only 5 or 6 innings usually, I'd rather watch Lucas Sims crawl up the bullpen ladder in status than watch an Adam Duvall play outfield and bat. Duvalls are a dime a dozen, great bullpen arms aren't, unless you're the Atlanta Braves playing the Cincinnati Reds.

I'd like to know where you're shopping at to find Duvalls for a dime a dozen.

zigbeenuthouse
10-01-2020, 10:13 PM
Just saw Tatis BLAST 3 run shot. Reds do NOT have a superstar player like Goldschmidt or Tatis or Freeman or Acuna or Ozuna...or someone of that status. Those guys make the others better in the order. At some point in the game they have to be pitched to and usually they deliver.

MFDChief
10-01-2020, 11:07 PM
Yeah, it's time to question my loyalty. I'm still a young guy. Nothing in the Bible nor the Constitution says that I have to stay tethered to this roach motel of an organization because I was born in the city limits.

I've never "quit" any team - even the Bungles. But this leaves such a bad taste in my mouth..this is an incredibly bad team to like. Knowing they can't piss me off again for several months is a relief.

I'm sure I won't be able to walk away. Best I can do is probably hate-watch, like I used to do with Full House.

Screw off, 2020 Reds.

I got one for you. I am a Reds fan from Oklahoma. My Dad, Grandpa and brothers would sit on the porch on summer nights and cheer for fellow Okie Johnny Bench. For some reason we could pick up an AM station out of Cincinnati. Can’t remember the call sign, WLW maybe? So that’s my story, a Reds fan for 45 years and I just can’t bring myself to quit em. In fact I have two Wheaties boxes with the 90 Champs team picture and story of the season on them. For me it’s more than just baseball, it’s memories. Yes the last few years have been difficult but I will sign up with MLBtv again next year to Cheer them on.
The only game I have seen live was at the Ballpark in Arlington when Mesaraco won it in extras with a HR. There were a ton of Reds fans in Texas that night and we made a lot of noise. Fun night!

REDREAD
10-02-2020, 12:29 PM
You know this comment on the shift is something that I have thought a lot about. The shift completely alters the way the game is played. For over a hundred years a line drive or hard ground ball up the middle was a base hit. Now most times they are no more than a routine out. I for one don’t like watching it. If a guy hits a hard shot up the middle the game of baseball should reward him.
The usual comeback is “take the ball the other way and beat the shift”. Well that is hard to do when big league pitchers are pounding the inside. They pitch it where they want you to hit it. Now having said that, the shift had jack squat to do with losing this series. Hell a couple of routine fly balls to the outfield would have won game one.

Yep, I have not done the research to back it up, but I am guessing the shift is at least partially responsible for the Reds'
poor BABIP. It has changed things a lot.
I would love to outlaw the shift, it really makes the game even more boring, and it would be an easy fix.
I really would not rather wait 10-15 years for the next generation of ball players that hit the ball to all fields because the LH pull hitter is almost obsolete with the shift (unless he hits a HR).

MFDChief
10-02-2020, 12:42 PM
Yep, I have not done the research to back it up, but I am guessing the shift is at least partially responsible for the Reds'
poor BABIP. It has changed things a lot.
I would love to outlaw the shift, it really makes the game even more boring, and it would be an easy fix.
I really would not rather wait 10-15 years for the next generation of ball players that hit the ball to all fields because the LH pull hitter is almost obsolete with the shift (unless he hits a HR).
How would the shift have effected Tony Gwynns career? If pitchers did nothing but pound him down and in even a great like him would have had no choice but to pull those pitches right into the teeth of the shift.

TheBigLebowski
10-02-2020, 02:08 PM
I got one for you. I am a Reds fan from Oklahoma. My Dad, Grandpa and brothers would sit on the porch on summer nights and cheer for fellow Okie Johnny Bench. For some reason we could pick up an AM station out of Cincinnati. Can’t remember the call sign, WLW maybe? So that’s my story, a Reds fan for 45 years and I just can’t bring myself to quit em. In fact I have two Wheaties boxes with the 90 Champs team picture and story of the season on them. For me it’s more than just baseball, it’s memories. Yes the last few years have been difficult but I will sign up with MLBtv again next year to Cheer them on.
The only game I have seen live was at the Ballpark in Arlington when Mesaraco won it in extras with a HR. There were a ton of Reds fans in Texas that night and we made a lot of noise. Fun night!

That's a mice story. I have that same Wheaties box. And I have a lot of fond memories. 1990 was the best. I was just old enough to fully understand baseball and what winning a World Series meant. First year I watched, they won. Therefore, it logically follows that they should win it every year. Right?

You'd actually be wrong. 30 years in a row. Probably explains my sour demeanor when the Reds lose. The euphoria from 1990 wears off a little more with each passing season, and when I jumped aboard, they were as good as they could be.

Thus, I've become more and more bitter with each passing season. Slinking in the backdoor to an expanded playoffs in a strange, strange season was still exciting to me, and it was wide open. Why NOT us?

They proceed to be shut out for an entire playoff series, breaking a league record for futility in the process.

That's gonna leave a mark. No, I'm not quitting the Reds. Couldn't do it even if I really tried. But I'm tired of waiting for that same feeling I had in 1990.