2021 College Football Thread: New Year Same Playoff

[RedTeamGo!]

Yeah that looked like one of those non-contact injuries that induce nightmares. Hope it’s nothing major.

[Boston Red]

1st and 15, and Minnesota ran 3 straight times. Think Fleck outsmarted himself.

[Hillsdale87]

1st and 15, and Minnesota ran 3 straight times. Think Fleck outsmarted himself.

And without his starting RB. I don't understand it, but I'll take it


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[Roy Tucker]

Wow.

[Boston Red]

Damn, a TD counts as 9 points now?

[RedTeamGo!]

Yeah that kid is a true freshman, JK Dobbins 2.0.

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Damn, a TD counts as 9 points now?

Haha I am horrible at math and I was sitting here like “uhhhh I’m not that bad at math….”

[RedTeamGo!]

Teague should never see the field again for OSU

[Boston Red]

I went to ESPN.com to check the score. Thought I must have missed something!

[kaldaniels]

Damn, a TD counts as 9 points now?

I did so much math in my head there working backwards.

[Boston Red]

Teague should never see the field again for OSU

Ohio State doesn't play Rutgers and Maryland and Illinois and Nebraska anymore?

[Roy Tucker]

OSU is tackling better because Ibrahim isn’t playing.

[Roy Tucker]

Damn, a TD counts as 9 points now?

Floating point overflow.

[RedTeamGo!]

Oh yeah, I forgot for a minute that OSU is overflowing with ridiculously talented skill players

[Roy Tucker]

Stroud should thank his receivers for yards after catch.

[RedTeamGo!]

That was insanely smooth by Olave. Sheesh.

[Boston Red]

I think Buckeyes will give up some points tonight. OSU 45 Minn 28

Solid

[RedTeamGo!]

Stroud should thank his receivers for yards after catch.

It’s 2021, he will be able to take them out for expensive steak dinners. I just heard OSU’s backup QB just signed a $1.4 million NIL deal. Seriously.

[RedTeamGo!]

Burke looks like he’s going to be a good one

[Boston Red]

That seems targeting

[RedTeamGo!]

That’s def targeting, what’s Ransom thinking?

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I am legit shocked

[Betterread]

Ransom tried to hit him in the head. And he did. And he’s laughing about it on the sideline.

[Boston Red]

I don't think it was dirty. Just against the current rules.

[kaldaniels]

That’s def targeting, what’s Ransom thinking?

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I am legit shocked

I’m surprised too but agree with the announcers. It wasn’t worthy of an ejection/suspension.

There needs to be some gray area allowing for a 15-yd penalty.

[RedTeamGo!]

OSU looked crap for large stretches of this game, Minnesota played their guts out, OSU QB looked terrible in the first half and they still won by 14. Wild.

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Henderson is going to be a star

[Betterread]

I don't think it was dirty. Just against the current rules.

It’s winning football.

[Roy Tucker]

Not a good showing for OSU defense. They line up in a vanilla 4-3 and try to rely on individual brilliance but I don’t see any brilliant players. Combs needs to mix it up, change looks, blitz, etc. Things that defensive coaches normally do.

[Boston Red]

The Malzahn's are finally rolling. Only down 24-21.

[RedTeamGo!]

Not a good showing for OSU defense. They line up in a vanilla 4-3 and try to rely on individual brilliance but I don’t see any brilliant players. Combs needs to mix it up, change looks, blitz, etc. Things that defensive coaches normally do.

It’s super weird, they never mix it up. Coombs is terrible.

[Hillsdale87]

It’s super weird, they never mix it up. Coombs is terrible.

It was definitely a weird game. Even the rotations were strange, with backups getting a lot more time than I expected. Part of me wonders/hopes that they weren't showing too much on D ahead of next week's Oregon game. However, it's been a pretty consistent theme that, outside of the Hafley year, the defensive unit underperforms its talent level. The LBs need to get better. The D line needs to make a greater impact. Harrison had some good rushes, but there wasn't a lot else. The secondary was mostly backups, and I thought they did ok, but hopefully the starters are back next week.

[adkindo]

The Malzahn's are finally rolling. Only down 24-21.

Yeah, they were fortunate to get out of there with a win after starting the game down 21-0.

[adkindo]

Not a good showing for OSU defense. They line up in a vanilla 4-3 and try to rely on individual brilliance but I don’t see any brilliant players. Combs needs to mix it up, change looks, blitz, etc. Things that defensive coaches normally do.

I think that defense could be problematic. If Ibrahim does not go down, I doubt Ohio State covers and is likely holding on for the win late instead of pulling away. The Minnesota QB is a mediocre game manager at best, and their running game gashed that Ohio State defense all night. It is week 1, so they may significantly improve by year end, but I thought it looked below average.

[BuckeyeRed27]

I think that defense could be problematic. If Ibrahim does not go down, I doubt Ohio State covers and is likely holding on for the win late instead of pulling away. The Minnesota QB is a mediocre game manager at best, and their running game gashed that Ohio State defense all night. It is week 1, so they may significantly improve by year end, but I thought it looked below average.

Did the running game gash them all night? They had that huge 56 yard run, but even with that they averaged 4 yards a carry. They ran a lot because they were trying to slow the game down, which was smart, but I would say it was just more efficient than “gashing”. Sucks Ibrahim got hurt, but Minnesota had a long TD drive to start the fourth quarter without him. I’m not sure his presence after that would have made a huge difference.

[Hillsdale87]

Did the running game gash them all night? They had that huge 56 yard run, but even with that they averaged 4 yards a carry. They ran a lot because they were trying to slow the game down, which was smart, but I would say it was just more efficient than “gashing”. Sucks Ibrahim got hurt, but Minnesota had a long TD drive to start the fourth quarter without him. I’m not sure his presence after that would have made a huge difference.

I don't think they were gashed, but it also wasn't a great performance. The LBs weren't good enough, although Cody Simon made some nice plays. The DL didn't get quite the push that you would want, but that's also a good Minnesota OL.

That said, they got a bit unlucky too. It looked like they had held Minnesota to a FG when a questionable PI call gave Minnesota another chance that resulted in a TD. They also picked off the pass, but the roughing the passer gave Minnesota a 1st down, which turned into a TD. It wasn't a great performance, but the result was probably the worst case outcome based off of how they played.

[BuckeyeRed27]

I don't think they were gashed, but it also wasn't a great performance. The LBs weren't good enough, although Cody Simon made some nice plays. The DL didn't get quite the push that you would want, but that's also a good Minnesota OL.

That said, they got a bit unlucky too. It looked like they had held Minnesota to a FG when a questionable PI call gave Minnesota another chance that resulted in a TD. They also picked off the pass, but the roughing the passer gave Minnesota a 1st down, which turned into a TD. It wasn't a great performance, but the result was probably the worst case outcome based off of how they played.

Yeah I would agree with that.

They also rotated a ton to give different guys a look which I’m assuming they won’t do all season.

[RedTeamGo!]

Yeah, if Shaw plays safety as much as he did last night we’ve got problems

[paintmered]

nm

[Boston Red]

UNC is supposed to be top 10, but they are playing like complete garbage at VaTech.

[Boston Red]

San Howell had the shortest Heisman campaign ever. He was hot garbage.

[Boston Red]

Tonight is DEFINITELY the first time anyone has ever stormed the field after beating Dook in FOOTBALL.

[adkindo]

San Howell had the shortest Heisman campaign ever. He was hot garbage.

I have been predicting them being overrated all offseason. If you look at last year, everything was set up by the dominant run game. In the 3 games they lost, FSU, ND and Virginia.....all 3 opponents were able to scheme an effective defense against their running attack. Both of those stud RB's are gone....and Howell lost his top two receivers, but I am not sure Howell can be highly effective without having a big time running game. Tonight, the receivers could not get separation because the DB's did not have to focus on helping stop the run game.

I think Va. Tech is a little better than projected....but I think UNC was significantly overrated.

[adkindo]

Did the running game gash them all night? They had that huge 56 yard run, but even with that they averaged 4 yards a carry. They ran a lot because they were trying to slow the game down, which was smart, but I would say it was just more efficient than “gashing”. Sucks Ibrahim got hurt, but Minnesota had a long TD drive to start the fourth quarter without him. I’m not sure his presence after that would have made a huge difference.

Ibrahim averaged 5.4 yards a carry....against an advertised elite front 7 of Ohio State. Let's be honest, take out the handful of runs where he got stopped at the LOS, and he is breaking off 7-8 yard runs each time. I have no dog in the fight, but I think you guys were very fortunate that Minnesota had a game manager @ QB. I expect the defense to improve....significantly before the end of the year because of the talent, but if it does not, I think it will cost you when you play a team with more talent on offense. The defensive backs were not challenged much by Morgan.

To be clear, I am evaluating you per the bar that Ohio State has set for the last decade. If Rutgers played like that, I would be extremely impressed.

[RedTeamGo!]

Ibrahim averaged 5.4 yards a carry....against an advertised elite front 7 of Ohio State. Let's be honest, take out the handful of runs where he got stopped at the LOS, and he is breaking off 7-8 yard runs each time. I have no dog in the fight, but I think you guys were very fortunate that Minnesota had a game manager @ QB. I expect the defense to improve....significantly before the end of the year because of the talent, but if it does not, I think it will cost you when you play a team with more talent on offense. The defensive backs were not challenged much by Morgan.

This is the first time I’ve seen anyone claim OSU’s front 7 has been advertised as elite. Their LB corps has been a huge question mark all off spring and summer. They even brought in a big time transfer from USC to fortify it, but something is wrong with his transcripts so he’s not eligible yet. They have a front 4 with the potential to be elite, but again, nobody was saying it was going into the season.

[adkindo]

This is the first time I’ve seen anyone claim OSU’s front 7 has been advertised as elite. Their LB corps has been a huge question mark all off spring and summer. They even brought in a big time transfer from USC to fortify it, but something is wrong with his transcripts so he’s not eligible yet. They have a front 4 with the potential to be elite, but again, nobody was saying it was going into the season.

I will say, I think it will be near impossible for anyone to contain the Ohio State offensive weapons or prevent them from breaking off big plays this season. Too much speed and talent. I am not sure how I would scheme against them....maybe just try to pressure the young QB into a couple mistakes....not sure what the other option is because the defense will not be able to match the speed.

[adkindo]

Wow....this Penn State/Wisconsin game.....0-0 at halftime. Penn State has 43 total yards and 2 yards rushing.

[KronoRed]

PSU/Wisc should be buried on the big10 network, not on the big channel.

[GAC]

Wow....this Penn State/Wisconsin game.....0-0 at halftime. Penn State has 43 total yards and 2 yards rushing.

A hard fought battle highlighting two good defenses, or two inept offenses. The Badgers would be well in control of this game if they could have capitalized TWICE when inside the opponent's 10 yd line. Then miss a FG.

Penn State kicks game tying FG after solid defensive stand by Badgers. 10-10 game 11 minutes left

[GAC]

PSU/Wisc should be buried on the big10 network, not on the big channel.

Ranked teams who are usually in contention for the conference title, and play each other tough. I'm enjoying the 2nd half.

[GAC]

Tulane giving #2 Sooners trouble. lol

[GAC]

Wow! I think that's a bad targeting call against Penn State's linebacker #13. Automatic 1st down inside of PSU's redzone.

[GAC]

Omg! Wisconsin! Almost fumble it away on the 1 yd line.

[kaldaniels]

It’s pretty obvious a lot of the 2020 “contenders” are going to be exposed this year as we return to normal football.

[Boston Red]

Looking forward to this Louisiana/Texas game. Early on it feels like Louisiana can compete physically, so it should be interesting.

[RedTeamGo!]

Alabama is up 28-0 in Miami with 7 minutes left in the 2nd quarter. Honest question: is it even worth watching this season?

[UKFlounder]

I truly love summer and hate to see it near its end, but I also love Saturdays full of college football, games at different times, on different networks, with a variety of matchups.

[UKFlounder]

To me, it absolutely is. Even if Bama wins again, there will be a lot of individual games that will be fun to see.

To me, it’s not all about the championship, but it’s just an enjoyable sport and makes Saturdays more fun.



Alabama is up 28-0 in Miami with 7 minutes left in the 2nd quarter. Honest question: is it even worth watching this season?

[Stray]

Good first half from the Cats. Ridder looks sharp.

[KronoRed]

Maryland wearing some decent uniforms for a change.

[Boston Red]

Alabama is up 28-0 in Miami with 7 minutes left in the 2nd quarter. Honest question: is it even worth watching this season?

It's possible Miami sucks.

[Boston Red]

Clemson apparently isn't Clemson this year. Not sad about that.

Disappointing game 1 for Hoosiers fans. That hurts UC, too, as UC needs all the strength of schedule they can get, and their game at IU was supposed to be a big help.

[wolfboy]

Good first half from the Cats. Ridder looks sharp.

Amazing atmosphere at Nippert today. Felt good being in the middle of a full house.

[adkindo]

Weirdest opening weekend in college football that I can recall. Alabama's defense appears to be unbeatable.

[Boston Red]

Flipping through some late scores. Whew, the Pac-12 appears to be absolutely terrible.

[RedTeamGo!]

UCLA looks good, but yeah

[WVRed]

Watched a little of the Kentucky game yesterday. Levis has an arm and Liam Coen has brought a passing game to Lexington. Test will be next week when Missouri comes to town. Kentucky could be 4-0 before Florida comes to town in October.

Also watched WVU-Maryland. Neal Brown is likely on the hot seat after that game. If they lose to Virginia Tech in two weeks it’ll be a tiki torch.

[Bourgeois Zee]

Ranked teams who lost:

#3 Clemson*
#10 North Carolina
#12 Wisconsin*
#14 Miami*
#16 LSU
#17 Indiana*
#20 Washington
#23 Louisiana*

* Indicates they lost to another ranked team

Worst Loss: Clemson
While many will point to fellow ACC member UNC, the fact is that the Tar Heels aren't really competing for a national championship, and Clemson is. Losing to Georgia will really affect that title chase. They won't fall far, as Georgia is a very, very good team, but they'll have to play catchup all season. And be perfect from here on out to have any chance. It helps that the Tigers play in perhaps the most overrated major football conference in Division I. Virginia Tech and NC State look like they might be the next best ACC squads this season-- if that's the case, Clemson should run the table fairly easily. (Of course, Notre Dame and Louisville haven't played, so there's that.)

Biggest Takeaways, Conference Edition:

The ACC did not have a good week.

The Big Ten is going to be brutal, but Ohio State is clearly the best team in that conference.

The SEC is Alabama and the Also-Rans... who also are really, really good. (Except for LSU.)

The Pac-12 has... who beyond UCLA and maybe Oregon?

In the Big 12, Oklahoma struggled. Iowa State struggled. West Virginia lost. At least Texas is good. (Sigh.)

[kaldaniels]

I don’t know that I’d put Clemson down for running the table with quarterback play like that.

UGA is the toughest defense they’ll face all year but DJ looked horrible.

[Bourgeois Zee]

I don’t know that I’d put Clemson down for running the table with quarterback play like that.

UGA is the toughest defense they’ll face all year but DJ looked horrible.

There's nothing beyond Notre Dame (maybe) in the ACC. And guess who doesn't play Notre Dame?

Clemson's next toughest team beyond Georgia is... NC State? Maybe Boston College? A rebuilding Florida State? Louisville? South Carolina?

None of those teams should inspire anything resembling fear in Tigerland.

If they don't run the table, they probably shouldn't be ranked in the top 25.

[RedTeamGo!]

I get the point you are making about why that is the worst loss, however, I think Indiana clearly had the worst loss yesterday. Indiana fans and the program spent the entire offseason beating their chests, saying they were one of the best teams in the country with one of the best head coaches in the country and one of the best QBs in the country. They got complete manhandled by a likely solid Iowa team, but nothing special. Penix had a horrendous game. All of that goodwill from last season is bye-bye.

[phatknuckle]

I donÂ’t know that IÂ’d put Clemson down for running the table with quarterback play like that.

UGA is the toughest defense theyÂ’ll face all year but DJ looked horrible.

In my opinion Clemson's biggest problem was the offensive line play. Maybe it had more to do with how good Georgia's front seven is than how bad Clemson's offensive is, but that is two games in a row where they were manhandled. They won't face anywhere near that good of a defense the rest of the way. DJ will look better with more time to go through progressions. Georgia took away the intermediate and deep throws with pressure and jumped the short pass routes. I doubt any ACC team will be able to duplicate that success, and so I expect Clemson to run the table, maybe easily. Whether it will be enough to convince voters that Clemson is a top 4 team depends a lot on the rest of the field.

[adkindo]

Sunday night.....and a little Milton Magic?

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UCLA looks good, but yeah

PAC12 North is gross

[adkindo]

Watched a little of the Kentucky game yesterday. Levis has an arm and Liam Coen has brought a passing game to Lexington. Test will be next week when Missouri comes to town. Kentucky could be 4-0 before Florida comes to town in October.

Also watched WVU-Maryland. Neal Brown is likely on the hot seat after that game. If they lose to Virginia Tech in two weeks it’ll be a tiki torch.

Kentucky's defense is not close to what it has been in recent years from what I watched.....but the offense looked much improved.

Brown will be with the fans.....but not administration. WVU is not a school that can do buyouts and he just signed an extension. His biggest flaw is not pulling Doege.....who was terrible again.

[adkindo]

from what I saw this weekend.....if the championship game was next week, it would be Alabama and Ohio State......and Bama winning with ease. Good news for Ohio State is the Championship game is not next week, and they clearly have the talent to close the gap. Can they close it enough? We will know in a few months.

[adkindo]

I don’t know that I’d put Clemson down for running the table with quarterback play like that.

UGA is the toughest defense they’ll face all year but DJ looked horrible.

They play in the ACC. Did not see much from the ACC so far outside maybe NC State?

[adkindo]

another heartbreaking missed FG @ Doak cost the 'Noles a game

[adkindo]

ugh....Kelly just dropped the "in favor of execution....maybe his whole team should be executed after tonight" for a college team in 2021. Not sure that will go over well.

[RedTeamGo!]

Brian Kelly is so dumb. I’m not offended or whatever by what he said, but it was so easy to get out of that interview smelling like roses. This is what he should have said:

“WHAT A GAME! I am just so glad my guys got the W, but that was just great football and I am so excited for this season! And how about Milton for FSU? I have all the respect in the world for him to come back from that injury. Moving forward we have some things to work out, but I’m confident we will and can’t wait for the challenges ahead!”

Dude sounded like ND lost by 3 touchdowns. What the hell was that??

[Assembly Hall]

another heartbreaking missed FG @ Doak cost the 'Noles a game

I got to watch the 2nd half. Very entertaining game. Tough loss for the Noles.

[KronoRed]

Dude sounded like ND lost by 3 touchdowns. What the hell was that??

I kinda get it, team had an 18 point lead and blew it, blowing sunshine and roses after that would be pretty lame IMO.

[oregonred]

Brian Kelly is so dumb. I’m not offended or whatever by what he said, but it was so easy to get out of that interview smelling like roses. This is what he should have said:

“WHAT A GAME! I am just so glad my guys got the W, but that was just great football and I am so excited for this season! And how about Milton for FSU? I have all the respect in the world for him to come back from that injury. Moving forward we have some things to work out, but I’m confident we will and can’t wait for the challenges ahead!”

Dude sounded like ND lost by 3 touchdowns. What the hell was that??

Yep, everyone knows Kelly is a great coach but pretty much a foulmouthed, classless jerk

[UKFlounder]

I have to admit I had no rooting interest in it, but Notre Dame - FSU was awfully fun to watch.

[oregonred]

Without playing in front of opposing fans for almost two years, opening week road teams across the board struggled. As would be expected.

Alabama was a home game against Miami. I assume that was 98% Bama fans as the small and fairweather Canes fanbase doesn't travel outside Dade and Broward county. Miami got absolutely blasted by UNC last December at home so not convinced they aren't anything but hot garbage again this year.

Washington losing at home to Montana 13-7, didn't see any of that one but yikes...

FSU/ND was definitely the game of the weekend. I didn't like the 2nd and 6 call in OT setting up an obvious 3rd down pass situation. Then icing his own kicker on the 3rd down challenge. Maybe should have just gone for it on 4th and 4 at that point. But great game to watch ending the weekend.

[cumberlandreds]

Watched a little of the Kentucky game yesterday. Levis has an arm and Liam Coen has brought a passing game to Lexington. Test will be next week when Missouri comes to town. Kentucky could be 4-0 before Florida comes to town in October.

Also watched WVU-Maryland. Neal Brown is likely on the hot seat after that game. If they lose to Virginia Tech in two weeks it’ll be a tiki torch.

I watched the game off my DVR over the last two days Levis looked very good. UK may just have a pro level QB. Also Wandale Robinson looks like a true play maker. ULM was terrible but UK in the past would often lose to a team like this to start the season. UK has pretty favorable schedule this year. Three games in the middle against LSU,UGA and UF is brutal but if they can survive that an 8 or 9 win season could happen.

[Boston Red]

This Louisville team is making me long for Bobby Petrino's last team.

[adkindo]

I watched the game off my DVR over the last two days Levis looked very good. UK may just have a pro level QB. Also Wandale Robinson looks like a true play maker. ULM was terrible but UK in the past would often lose to a team like this to start the season. UK has pretty favorable schedule this year. Three games in the middle against LSU,UGA and UF is brutal but if they can survive that an 8 or 9 win season could happen.

It is interesting....I was not as impressed by their defense as I have been in previous years....but I looked at the boxscore and Louisiana Monroe put up no offensive production. I watched much of the first half, and I recall thinking UK escaped situations because RichRods kid was so bad and failed to make the play.....but after looking at the box score, the defense was clearly better than my eyes told me in the first half.

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This Louisville team is making me long for Bobby Petrino's last team.

Ole Miss might actually be pretty good this year....but yeah, U of L is bad.

[Boston Red]

Louisville put up 24 in the second half. Pretty sure Ole Miss still stinks on defense.

[adkindo]

Any idea what is going on with Todd Mcshay. Stepping away from on screen work for a while to deal with personal health and family. I heard about the incidents this weekend before I watched the clips.....and honestly assumed he was probably intoxicated. After seeing the clips.....that does not appear to be a man intoxicated. Does it?

https://twitter.com/GBpickem/status/1434253987033747456

[adkindo]

https://youtu.be/f9p_cZ8b4Fk

[kaldaniels]

Any idea what is going on with Todd Mcshay. Stepping away from on screen work for a while to deal with personal health and family. I heard about the incidents this weekend before I watched the clips.....and honestly assumed he was probably intoxicated. After seeing the clips.....that does not appear to be a man intoxicated. Does it?

https://twitter.com/GBpickem/status/1434253987033747456

There was a clip of him last year or the year before where he was “sick” which was also very odd.

Wishing him the best.

[RedTeamGo!]

My Rockets actually fighting against ND. ND will win this, but this bodes well for MACtion.

[Boston Red]

Good that Cincinnati blew out Murray State in the second half. They can't afford to have pollsters see a close score against the Racers. Their two "maquee" non-conference opponents aren't looking too strong so far.

[Revering4Blue]

My Rockets actually fighting against ND. ND will win this, but this bodes well for MACtion.

Man, did the Rockets put up a major fight today, or what?

[WVRed]

Will Levis might be the best QB I’ve seen at Kentucky since Tim Couch or Andre Woodson.

Defense has never been an issue with Stoops but with Liam Coen Kentucky now has an offense that can go toe to toe with anyone in the SEC.

[UKFlounder]

thought Ohio State would still probably make the playoffs if they won out after yesterday, but if Bama and UGA win out until the SEC title game, Notre Dame wins out and Oklahoma finishes the year undefeated, it might be a mess to figure out who gets in.

Then add in Clemson, if they win out.

I’m not sure the ACC is strong enough to help Clemson get strong wins, and Ohio State really needs Iowa, Michigan, and Penn State to have strong seasons in order to have a shot.

Notre Dame’s schedule might hurt them too, even if undefeated

Now, Oregon is a candidate too after yesterday.

It’s early enough that some of these teams will likely lose and clear this up a bit, but right now it’s a mess.

[KronoRed]

Usually don't see a hail mary work on a pass complete 20 yards short of the end zone

https://youtu.be/sYecgRlnmFM?t=51

[RedTeamGo!]

thought Ohio State would still probably make the playoffs if they won out after yesterday, but if Bama and UGA win out until the SEC title game, Notre Dame wins out and Oklahoma finishes the year undefeated, it might be a mess to figure out who gets in.

Then add in Clemson, if they win out.

I’m not sure the ACC is strong enough to help Clemson get strong wins, and Ohio State really needs Iowa, Michigan, and Penn State to have strong seasons in order to have a shot.

Notre Dame’s schedule might hurt them too, even if undefeated

Now, Oregon is a candidate too after yesterday.

It’s early enough that some of these teams will likely lose and clear this up a bit, but right now it’s a mess.

This OSU team shouldn’t be in the playoffs, the defense is horrible. If they make the playoff and play Bama in the first round the score will be like 60-7. I don’t think OSU has a remote chance to run the table this year. I see losses against Penn State and Michigan. Also, wouldn’t be surprised if MSU beats them this year. Worst OSU team I have seen since the Fickell season.

[adkindo]

This OSU team shouldn’t be in the playoffs, the defense is horrible. If they make the playoff and play Bama in the first round the score will be like 60-7. I don’t think OSU has a remote chance to run the table this year. I see losses against Penn State and Michigan. Also, wouldn’t be surprised if MSU beats them this year. Worst OSU team I have seen since the Fickell season.

I think that will be a similar result for whoever plays 'Bama in Round 1. Right now, it appears they are the only team close to elite on both sides of the ball. Ohio State and Oklahoma do not have the defense.....and Clemson and Georgia do not have the offense to compete with 'Bama. I would be shocked if Oregon does not take some losses with Anthony Brown under center.

[adkindo]

Brett McMurphy
@Brett_McMurphy

Some significant lines:

Bama -15 at Florida
Penn St -7 vs. Auburn
Cincinnati -4 at Indiana
OU -23 vs. Nebraska
WVU -3 vs. Virginia Tech
Boise St -4 vs. Okla St
Miami -8 vs. Mich St
Ariz St -2 at BYU
ND -8 vs. Purdue

2:22 PM · Sep 12, 2021

[RedTeamGo!]

I think that will be a similar result for whoever plays 'Bama in Round 1. Right now, it appears they are the only team close to elite on both sides of the ball. Ohio State and Oklahoma do not have the defense.....and Clemson and Georgia do not have the offense to compete with 'Bama. I would be shocked if Oregon does not take some losses with Anthony Brown under center.

That’s why it is infuriating OSU’s coaches couldn’t make adjustments. Brown is not a good QB, Oregon’s offense is one dimensional. OSU’s coaches just couldn’t figure it out apparently, even though everyone watching could.

[adkindo]

Anyone paying attention to what has been going on at Florida with the QB's? The backup to this point has been Anthony Richardson, but I am guessing that he will have to become the starter soon.....maybe even this week against 'Bama. He is a Redshirt Freshman, but has looked unreal when he has came into the game to replace Emory Jones. It has been a series here and there.....not during mop up duty, but the competition has been light (FAU, USF). This past week, he was 3 for 3, 152 Yards and 2 TD's...and ran the ball 4 times for 115 yards and a TD. It will be interesting to see if they start him against 'Bama this week....and if he can cause any issues for the 'Bama defense.

Early reports are the Gators will stick with Emory Jones against Alabama which has to make Gator fans irate.

[WVRed]

Anyone paying attention to what has been going on at Florida with the QB's? The backup to this point has been Anthony Richardson, but I am guessing that he will have to become the starter soon.....maybe even this week against 'Bama. He is a Redshirt Freshman, but has looked unreal when he has came into the game to replace Emory Jones. It has been a series here and there.....not during mop up duty, but the competition has been light (FAU, USF). This past week, he was 3 for 3, 152 Yards and 2 TD's...and ran the ball 4 times for 115 yards and a TD. It will be interesting to see if they start him against 'Bama this week....and if he can cause any issues for the 'Bama defense.

Early reports are the Gators will stick with Emory Jones against Alabama which has to make Gator fans irate.

After Florida plays Kentucky the following week they can go ahead and make the switch full time.

Until then keep Emory Jones as the starter. [emoji846]

[adkindo]

After Florida plays Kentucky the following week they can go ahead and make the switch full time.

Until then keep Emory Jones as the starter. [emoji846]

Have you got a chance to watch any of Richardson? I am trying to not drink the kool aid, but he looks like the real deal in limited action. He limited his own snaps this weekend because he threw two deep TD passes.....and broke off an 80 yard TD run early in the series he was placed in the game.

[cumberlandreds]

Will Levis might be the best QB I’ve seen at Kentucky since Tim Couch or Andre Woodson.

Defense has never been an issue with Stoops but with Liam Coen Kentucky now has an offense that can go toe to toe with anyone in the SEC.

He's the best since Woodson for sure. Probably Couch. UK looks good through two. That was a big swing win against Missouri. UK is usually pretty even with them and South Carolina every year. If they win those they are in good shape for a really good bowl.

[KronoRed]

Early reports are the Gators will stick with Emory Jones against Alabama which has to make Gator fans irate.

Richardson got hurt on his 80 yard TD run, could be a hamstring, nobody is saying.

Gator fans are used to his, Kyle Trask was always better then Franks but it took Franks getting hurt to get on the field, Mullen WAY over values upperclassmen.

[adkindo]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z53JjZL5WsI

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Richardson got hurt on his 80 yard TD run, could be a hamstring, nobody is saying.

I thought it may just have been a cramp.

[paintmered]

My thoughts on UC from this past weekend: I've never felt worse after watching a 35 point win.

[WVRed]

Richardson got hurt on his 80 yard TD run, could be a hamstring, nobody is saying.

Gator fans are used to his, Kyle Trask was always better then Franks but it took Franks getting hurt to get on the field, Mullen WAY over values upperclassmen.

I was just about to post something similar in the other thread.

The Kentucky game two years ago was when Franks got hurt (and he stunk up the field and lost to Kentucky the year before and broke the streak) and Trask took over and won the game in Lexington.

[UKFlounder]

USC fired Clay Helton today

[Boston Red]

USC fired Clay Helton today

Losing to Stanford is bad. Stanford is HORRIBLE.

[Boston Red]

FSU's AD surely at least considered firing Norvell on the spot Saturday night, too.

[KronoRed]

USC fired Clay Helton today

Everyone in the world knew he should have been gone last year, what a clown show.

[WVRed]

USC fired Clay Helton today

Did they fire him on the tarmac?

[UKFlounder]

From Dennis Dodd


Filed to @CBSSports: The USC job is Luke Fickell's to turn down. If he does, Bob Stoops might be waiting in the wings.

[Boston Red]

From Dennis Dodd


Filed to @CBSSports: The USC job is Luke Fickell's to turn down. If he does, Bob Stoops might be waiting in the wings.

I'm not even a UC fan, and I'm already po'd for them if Fickell lets that distract from what should be a dream season for UC football. They cannot afford a distraction this week.

[BuckeyeRed27]

Tough job to turn down, but doesn’t seem like a great fit for Fickell.

[paintmered]

From Dennis Dodd


Filed to @CBSSports: The USC job is Luke Fickell's to turn down. If he does, Bob Stoops might be waiting in the wings.

Amy isn't trading being two hours from both sets of families for six hours of flights and a layover.

Though I have no doubt Mike Bohn sent Luke a "u up?" text.

[adkindo]

From Dennis Dodd


Filed to @CBSSports: The USC job is Luke Fickell's to turn down. If he does, Bob Stoops might be waiting in the wings.

I am not sure I buy this.....Dodd talks out his ass a lot. I get the connection to the AD.....but I doubt it is his to turn down today.

[adkindo]

My thoughts on UC from this past weekend: I've never felt worse after watching a 35 point win.

Same experience watching WVU in a 66-0 win.

[Chip R]

Tough job to turn down, but doesn’t seem like a great fit for Fickell.

Not so sure it's a great job anymore. Tough to beat the weather and the recruiting base but they may be Nebraska West.

[Assembly Hall]

Not so sure it's a great job anymore. Tough to beat the weather and the recruiting base but they may be Nebraska West.

The PAC 12 needs USC to return to some semblance of their former glory for CFP purposes.

[Chip R]

The PAC 12 needs USC to return to some semblance of their former glory for CFP purposes.

Needing and happening are two different things. Before the pandemic started, I'd drive to work every morning listening to sports radio for 20 minutes or so. I'd have my choice between ESPN radio with Mike & Mike up until a few years ago and for the last few years, Clay Travis on Fox Sports Radio. About once a week Travis would have Petros Papadakis on for a segment or two. Papadakis is a SC alum and former player for the football team back in the late 90s early 00s. He currently does games for Fox and used to have an afternoon radio show. Anyway, for the last few years he'd talk about how dysfunctional the athletic department is there.

[adkindo]

Sources have said that Kentucky head coach Mark Stoops is a front runner for the USC job

https://twitter.com/NoHuddle_CFB/status/1437604410901860353

[cumberlandreds]

Sources have said that Kentucky head coach Mark Stoops is a front runner for the USC job

https://twitter.com/NoHuddle_CFB/status/1437604410901860353

That was dumb tweet. This may be his best team at UK this season. He went 10-3 in 2018 and 8-5 in 2019. For UK that is not really plateauing I'm not counting 2020 as that was just a messed up year. He also is in line to be UK's all time winningest coach by next season as he just needs 9 wins to pass the Bear. We'll see. He could very well leave but I would kind of surprised.

[BuckeyeRed27]

Not so sure it's a great job anymore. Tough to beat the weather and the recruiting base but they may be Nebraska West.

The 2 reasons you listed are a big part of why it’s not Nebraska west.

[WVRed]

That was dumb tweet. This may be his best team at UK this season. He went 10-3 in 2018 and 8-5 in 2019. For UK that is not really plateauing I'm not counting 2020 as that was just a messed up year. He also is in line to be UK's all time winningest coach by next season as he just needs 9 wins to pass the Bear. We'll see. He could very well leave but I would kind of surprised.

I’ve literally not seen Mark Stoops mentioned anywhere else except that tweet. Bob has been but I don’t see that happening either.

I’ve seen him floated for Nebraska but that seems like a pipe dream for them.

[adkindo]

That was dumb tweet. This may be his best team at UK this season. He went 10-3 in 2018 and 8-5 in 2019. For UK that is not really plateauing I'm not counting 2020 as that was just a messed up year. He also is in line to be UK's all time winningest coach by next season as he just needs 9 wins to pass the Bear. We'll see. He could very well leave but I would kind of surprised.

I would be really surprised if Stoops was the frontrunner.

[Boston Red]

PJ Fleck is the betting favorite to be USC's next coach.

[BuckeyeRed27]

I’m not sure that is a good fit either and I think Fleck is a really good coach.

[Assembly Hall]

PJ Fleck is the betting favorite to be USC's next coach.

I wouldn't like that if I was a Trojan fan.

[Hillsdale87]

I wouldn't like that if I was a Trojan fan.

Same. Fleck is a good coach, but I feel like he fits the Midwest better. I'd want James Franklin if I was USC


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[RedTeamGo!]

I don’t like Fleck but think y’all are severely underrating him and frankly I think some Midwest football might succeed in the Pac12

[Boston Red]

I think his "Row the Boat" theme at USC would really resonate with Lori Loughlin's daughters.

[BuckeyeRed27]

I think his "Row the Boat" theme at USC would really resonate with Lori Loughlin's daughters.

Nailed it.

[Assembly Hall]

I don’t like Fleck but think y’all are severely underrating him and frankly I think some Midwest football might succeed in the Pac12

I have nothing against Fleck, I just think the SC faithful will clamor for a bigger name.

[Chip R]

I have nothing against Fleck, I just think the SC faithful will clamor for a bigger name.

Unless they get Saban or Meyer, they will probably want a bigger name no matter who is hired. I've also heard Chiefs OC Eric Bienemy has interest in the job. He's been denied head coaching jobs in the NFL so SC may be a fit.

[Assembly Hall]

Unless they get Saban or Meyer, they will probably want a bigger name no matter who is hired. I've also heard Chiefs OC Eric Bienemy has interest in the job. He's been denied head coaching jobs in the NFL so SC may be a fit.

The question is, Who are the Trojans interested in?

[KronoRed]

If Urbs was remotely interested in the job they would have fired Helton 2 years ago.

[Assembly Hall]

If Urbs was remotely interested in the job they would have fired Helton 2 years ago.

Yeah, you have to feel like USC has put out feelers previously. Heard a talking head here in my area say almost the same exact thing you just did.

That being said...how did Saban end up at 'Bama? Perhaps the same thing happens with Urban to Troy?

[adkindo]

I have nothing against Fleck, I just think the SC faithful will clamor for a bigger name.

or another factor may be that PJ Fleck earns $4.75M a year....more than they paid Helton. How much would you have to earn in LA to make it equal with $4.75 Million in Minnesota? I would guess when real estate and overall cost of living is taken into account, it would be at least $6+ Million?

[Assembly Hall]

or another factor may be that PJ Fleck earns $4.75M a year....more than they paid Helton. How much would you have to earn in LA to make it equal with $4.75 Million in Minnesota? I would guess when real estate and overall cost of living is taken into account, it would be at least $6+ Million?

I did not know this and I would say Fleck is overpaid.

[BuckeyeRed27]

or another factor may be that PJ Fleck earns $4.75M a year....more than they paid Helton. How much would you have to earn in LA to make it equal with $4.75 Million in Minnesota? I would guess when real estate and overall cost of living is taken into account, it would be at least $6+ Million?

$4.75M a year will get you by just fine anywhere you hang your hat.

[Hillsdale87]

I don’t like Fleck but think y’all are severely underrating him and frankly I think some Midwest football might succeed in the Pac12

My Midwest comment was more about his personality than play style. He has a very blue collar attitude, which is great, but probably not a fit in LA


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[WVRed]

My Midwest comment was more about his personality than play style. He has a very blue collar attitude, which is great, but probably not a fit in LA


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Mick Cronin made it work.

[Hillsdale87]

Mick Cronin made it work.

That's a fair point. He was also their 6th choice or something like that. He maybe shouldn't have been, but Cronin isn't the type of coach that they were looking for.

I think USC football is different from UCLA basketball at this point too. I don't think Fleck would be a terrible hire by any means, but I think they'll be looking for a more exciting name, whether that's right or not.

[Boston Red]

Mick Cronin made it work.

Is that one "Mission Accomplished" just yet? They obviously had an amazing tournament run, but they were nearly an NIT team after blowing a huge lead in the first round of the Pac 12 Tournament and needed a lot of magic just to get out of the play in game.

[Assembly Hall]

Is that one "Mission Accomplished" just yet? They obviously had an amazing tournament run, but they were nearly an NIT team after blowing a huge lead in the first round of the Pac 12 Tournament and needed a lot of magic just to get out of the play in game.

That would be my thought as well...the jury is still out but it is looking promising.

[adkindo]

$4.75M a year will get you by just fine anywhere you hang your hat.

Fine....sure....but it will be a very different level of fine. That amount will place you in the most elite developments around Minneapolis.....it will not in LA.

[BuckeyeRed27]

Fine....sure....but it will be a very different level of fine. That amount will place you in the most elite developments around Minneapolis.....it will not in LA.

7000 square foot home on Lake Minnetonka or 4000 square foot home in Manhattan Beach? Easy answer come December haha

I don’t think he’s gonna be the guy anyway.

[Chip R]

The question is, Who are the Trojans interested in?

Bobby Petrino? He probably couldn't leave Missouri State soon enough if SC called (although they seem to have a good team there for once.) :laugh:

[Boston Red]

Bobby Petrino? He probably couldn't leave Missouri State soon enough if SC called (although they seem to have a good team there for once.) :laugh:

I mean, it's not a coincidence that Missouri State is all of a sudden good. Have to believe his nine lives are up in terms of major college coaching, though.

[Assembly Hall]

7000 square foot home on Lake Minnetonka or 4000 square foot home in Manhattan Beach? Easy answer come December haha

I don’t think he’s gonna be the guy anyway.

I guess it depends on whether you like to ice fish or surf?

[RedTeamGo!]

Lol I’m taking the house in MN personally

[BuckeyeRed27]

Lol I’m taking the house in MN personally

Not it you made $4.5M a year. LA might be the best city on Earth to be rich in.

[bucksfan2]

Not it you made $4.5M a year. LA might be the best city on Earth to be rich in.

This is for another thread, but if I made $4.5M a year, I could think of a ton more cities I would rather live in than LA.

[Revering4Blue]

Not it you made $4.5M a year. LA might be the best city on Earth to be rich in.

San Diego says :wave:

[Chip R]

I guess it depends on whether you like to ice fish or surf?

Or purify yourself.

[Boston Red]

Not it you made $4.5M a year. LA might be the best city on Earth to be rich in.

I'd take Miami a hundred times out of a hundred.

[BuckeyeRed27]

I'd take Miami a hundred times out of a hundred.

Also solid, although as man that sweats a bit Miami kills me.

As for the conversation, I think Bienemy checks a lot of boxes USC needs right now.

[Assembly Hall]

Lol I’m taking the house in MN personally

I would just be happy with a cottage on a lake...in MN.

[Assembly Hall]

Also solid, although as man that sweats a bit Miami kills me.

As for the conversation, I think Bienemy checks a lot of boxes USC needs right now.

Bienemy would be a great choice, but would Trojan Nation be happy with the selection?

[BuckeyeRed27]

Bienemy would be a great choice, but would Trojan Nation be happy with the selection?

I certainly don’t speak for all USC fans, they are my “other” team, but after several consecutive coaching blow ups, I think the overall feeling is they just want to be relevant. There doesn’t seem to be an obvious home run hire and no one believes Nick Saban or Urban Meyer is walking through the door. As long as it is someone with legit promise I think most of the fan base will be happy.

[RedTeamGo!]

I'd take Miami a hundred times out of a hundred.

Couldn’t pay me to live in florida. The summers are horrible to me, worse than Ohio winters.

[redhawkfish]

Or purify yourself.

Apollonia in Purple Rain reference?

[adkindo]

Couldn’t pay me to live in florida. The summers are horrible to me, worse than Ohio winters.

I do not love the heat.....but I have to say, Miami is paradise if you are wealthy. I know it is always a different lifestyle in any city if you are rich....but Miami does take it to another level than most. Miami is more about $ and less about celebrity.....while I get the feeling there are so many rich people in LA, that it tends to be more about celebrity. I guess it depends on what is considered LA....as I would have very little interest in living in Brentwood or those developments.....but I could do Malibu or one of those large homes further up the Pacific Coast Highway......or Santa Barbara.

I would not even need a mansion, but something like this in Santa Barbara would be fine for little ole' me....(those views)

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/986-Cheltenham-Rd-Santa-Barbara-CA-93105/15885312_zpid/

or something like this would work...

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/695-Via-Hierba-Santa-Barbara-CA-93110/15904350_zpid/

the payment on this one is only about $83K a month.....

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/4160-La-Ladera-Rd-Santa-Barbara-CA-93110/15904980_zpid/

My god, can you imagine?

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/28808-Cliffside-Dr-Malibu-CA-90265/20555561_zpid/

For comps...this is Shaq's house in Orlando he has been trying to sell....he has cut the price in almost half over the last year....the problem with the house is it was about 10K SQ Ft. when he purchased, and he just kept adding on to it to where it is now over 30K SQ Ft. It makes no logical sense because it is too long.....one would get winded walking from one end to the other! I mean I can imagine a squatting family moving in one wing, and it be a month before anyone knew they were there.

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/9927-Giffin-Ct-Windermere-FL-34786/46138336_zpid/

[adkindo]

not related to college football at all....but just a interesting story. They have been building this monstrosity of a house near Shaq's house for over a decade. Some places it is listed at 85K SQ Ft....others up to 100K+ SQ Ft. It is owned by David Siegel...a time share billionaire. I think they even had a reality show with his wife called "Queen of Versailles"....which is reference to the name of the house. The best part is it sits directly across the water from his ex wifes somewhat normal home. He has to be getting pretty old because he was in his 70's when I met him a decade ago....not he will be around if they ever finish it.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7g9K6aeWaX4

[bucksfan2]

Couldn’t pay me to live in florida. The summers are horrible to me, worse than Ohio winters.

Summers in FL would be miserable, combine that with the threat of hurricanes, and I am out. Its a great place to vacation in the winter, but I am done with the hustle and bustle, so I have no desire to live in Miami.

Give me somewhere in the Rockies and I would be happy.

[RedTeamGo!]

Summers in FL would be miserable, combine that with the threat of hurricanes, and I am out. Its a great place to vacation in the winter, but I am done with the hustle and bustle, so I have no desire to live in Miami.

Give me somewhere in the Rockies and I would be happy.

I’d like Asheville, NC

[Roy Tucker]

I’d like Asheville, NC

A lot of our retired friends have moved to the Carolinas. The wife and I have discussed a similar move.

[RedTeamGo!]

A lot of our retired friends have moved to the Carolinas. The wife and I have discussed a similar move.

I lived in Charlotte for 4 years. We loved it there, we were going to start family soon and it was just too far away from our families, though. Kind of regret leaving, though.

[Boston Red]

I expect Central Florida to rip Louisville a new one tonight. And I don't even think UCF is good. Sad times.

And I spent 5 years in the Carolinas (Charlotte and Chapel Hill). Loved it there. Hoping to get my daughter to go to NC State or UNC so I can go back often!

[adkindo]

I expect Central Florida to rip Louisville a new one tonight. And I don't even think UCF is good. Sad times.

And I spent 5 years in the Carolinas (Charlotte and Chapel Hill). Loved it there. Hoping to get my daughter to go to NC State or UNC so I can go back often!

I actually think there is a chance that UCF is progressing to being very good. I expect them to look much improved tonight compared to Week #1 against Boise State.

[adkindo]

Feels pretty petty on Notre Dame's part to not allow Purdue's Band access to their tunnel to bring in the big drum.

[RichRed]

I’d like Asheville, NC

:wave:

There's a brewery or two here, as you know.

[Assembly Hall]

Feels pretty petty on Notre Dame's part to not allow Purdue's Band access to their tunnel to bring in the big drum.

Call me crazy, but that has to be one of the most "childish" things I have seen. The Irish better be concerned with Purdue's football team not their big drum.

[WVRed]

This is for another thread, but if I made $4.5M a year, I could think of a ton more cities I would rather live in than LA.

You could have said the entire state of California and you would also be correct.

Aren’t Florida and Texas tax havens anyways? LA seems like a place to go if you want to blow your money and the other two are where to go if you want to get the most out of it.

[Boston Red]

UCF had to try to lose that one. Hilarious. I guess Louisville played somewhat better, but they're still not good.

[KronoRed]

Louisville was the better team, pretty good game.

[Boston Red]

Cincinnati/Indiana is my game to not miss tomorrow. Really would like to see an outsider like UC get a chance to go to Notre Dame undefeated and play in a truly huge game. Doesn't happen very often.

[Assembly Hall]

Cincinnati/Indiana is my game to not miss tomorrow. Really would like to see an outsider like UC get a chance to go to Notre Dame undefeated and play in a truly huge game. Doesn't happen very often.

Go Hoosiers!

[paintmered]

Go Hoosiers!

It should be a good one. Hopefully we'll get to return opportunity to host the Hoosiers in the near future. Easy travel road games are a rarity these days.

[RedTeamGo!]

I’m rooting for Indiana. I think the Bearcats are getting a little big for their britches, even though they haven’t beaten anyone quality. Not that Indians is quality this year. Their real test is ND next week, even though they look down this year after barely beating my Rockets

[Assembly Hall]

It should be a good one. Hopefully we'll get to return opportunity to host the Hoosiers in the near future. Easy travel road games are a rarity these days.

IU plays at UC next year.

[Roy Tucker]

I’m rooting for Indiana. I think the Bearcats are getting a little big for their britches, even though they haven’t beaten anyone quality. Not that Indians is quality this year. Their real test is ND next week, even though they look down this year after barely beating my Rockets

I’m just glad another team is trying to crash the top 10. College football has gotten a little boring with Alabama, Clemson, Ohio State, and Oklahoma ruling the playoffs.

[paintmered]

IU plays at UC next year.

I should have known that. Thanks.

[Roy Tucker]

UC offense shaky early and IU turns an int turnover into a TD. Indiana leading 7-0. Indiana OL dominating UC’s vaunted defense. Bearcats need to get in gear.

[Boston Red]

UC is completely out of rhythm. Surprising.

[Boston Red]

That weird 4th down by IU could be the turning point.

[paintmered]

The big difference is IU is winning up front.

[Roy Tucker]

Yeah, Ritter is running for his life on most pass plays. And UC’s ground game is non existent.

[Assembly Hall]

That weird 4th down by IU could be the turning point.

We'll see if U.C. can stop the Hoosiers again.

[Roy Tucker]

And Indiana running left consistently and going good yardage.

[Boston Red]

Feels like a win for UC would be getting to halftime without being out of the game.

[Boston Red]

IU is going to regret not putting UC away.

[Roy Tucker]

Second time IU comes away empty down in the UC red zone.

[Roy Tucker]

Stupid stupid play by the UC offensive lineman. Cover up the fumble. Just dumb.

[Boston Red]

UC just looks absolutely awful.

[Roy Tucker]

UC just looks absolutely awful.

Yeah. Lousy undisciplined play. I’m surprised. And IU is playing well.

Bearcats need to be careful here the last few minutes of the half. You don’t want to be down any more than what they are. And UC has been flirting with disaster all half.

[paintmered]

UC just looks absolutely awful.

They're in real danger of getting blown off the field. This next drive is critical.

[paintmered]

There's the break for UC.

[Playadlc]

Wow. Technically correct call.

Brutal loss for IU. McFadden is a monster.

[Roy Tucker]

Huge turnaround. A good call though.

[Playadlc]

Allen can’t replace McFadden - and now the middle is going to be wide open

[Boston Red]

That targeting call may have saved UC. They'll at least go into halftime with hope.

[Roy Tucker]

And there you go. Now a 14-7 game and UC has a pulse.

And then the kickoff goes out of bounds. The Bearcats are so sloppy.

[Boston Red]

14-10 @ half did not seem likely 15 minutes ago.

[paintmered]

We've got a ballgame, though it shouldn't be.

[Roy Tucker]

Crazy turnaround. Almost a tying TD. UC only down 14-10 when it looked like they were on the verge of getting blown out.

[Boston Red]

Nebraska hanging with Oklahoma, but they just missed a short FG.

[Boston Red]

UC does some dumb stuff.

[Roy Tucker]

Dumb personal foul to kill a drive.

Then Ridder runs out of bound losing a couple yard instead of throwing it away. And the 50 yd fg bounces off the upright.

UC might win this game but they are playing a sloppy undisciplined game.

[Boston Red]

UC does some dumb stuff.

IU does some dumb stuff.

[Roy Tucker]

Here, you take the game. No, you can have it. Jeez.

UC up 17-14 and it’s a whole different game. Did McFadden make that much of a difference?

[Boston Red]

This game has gone from dull to crazy.

[Roy Tucker]

Nice 99 yd kickoff return.

UC needs a better kicker.

[paintmered]

Nm

[Boston Red]

Great throw and catch for UC.

[Boston Red]

This game is not going into a museum.

[adkindo]

So tired of Neal Brown's poor decisions.....WVU should have won the game by at least 3 TD's.

[Boston Red]

Minnesota 20-0 over Colorado is not what I expected.

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UC needs to score a TD. Their FG kicker is not trustworthy.

[adkindo]

UCF's season may be over in regards of making noise in the American.....their QB has broken collarbone are will be out a while.

[paintmered]

The game turned on the targeting call. GG, Hoosiers. You have every right to be frustrated with how things turned out today.

[Roy Tucker]

I still think there should be targeting 1 and 2 with only 2 getting ejected. Some targeting are inadvertent where the ball carrier turns at the last second and the tackler has no time to adjust. Others are yeah, throw him out. Or maybe save targeting for egregious calls and just call a personal foul. But then today, the call on the IU linebacker was like a 1.5.

I get that the NCAA is trying to eliminate head first tackling for safety reasons. And that is a very necessary. But it seems that often times the ejection turns a game around.

[WVRed]

So tired of Neal Brown's poor decisions.....WVU should have won the game by at least 3 TD's.

They nearly snatched defeat from the jaws of victory.

What’s scary is they might have a chance next week against Oklahoma.

[adkindo]

They nearly snatched defeat from the jaws of victory.

What’s scary is they might have a chance next week against Oklahoma.

The sad part is while WVU clearly has weak links, overall there is a lot of talent on this team....enough to contend in the Big12.....but it will not overcome poor QB play and poor gameday coaching. Neal Brown has been one of the worst "Saturday" coaches I have ever seen @ WVU. Before the half, WVU had the ball 1st and Goal from the 2 yard line with a chance to go up 28-7. Give the damn ball to Leddie Brown! Neal Brown decides to run Doege who is less athletic than any football player in America.....then has him try a fade route, a pass he never comes close to completing. End up settling for a FG, and told friends online I had a feeling that would come back to bite us.....and it almost did.

After scoring 24 points in the 1st half, we only score 3 points in the 2nd half (same as Maryland). Have the ball up 6 points with 3 minutes left, and I said no matter what.....do not allow Doege to attempt a pass. Even if they have to get the ball back...just run it. Brown decides it is best if Doege throws it and bam....interception. Have to play Greene more when the offense stalls....and need a legit OC because Brown sucks as a play caller.

[adkindo]

Will UGA take over the #1 spot in the rankings?

[kaldaniels]

Will UGA take over the #1 spot in the rankings?

No.

[adkindo]

No.

I agree....they probably will not, but there is an argument. UF's offense is terrible with Jones at QB....and the Gators still almost won. If Richardson is healthy, I do not think 'Bama is undefeated tonight.

Feels like right now.....there is some separation between 'Bama, Georgia and everyone else. Ohio State, Oklahoma and Clemson all looked mediocre today against teams that were far less talented.

[RedTeamGo!]

I don’t consider Ohio State a top 25 team right now. Seriously.

[adkindo]

I don’t consider Ohio State a top 25 team right now. Seriously.

You can make that claim in a vacuum....but there is no way you can reasonably name 25 teams that are better than them.....or even 10 teams that are clearly better than them. This appears to be one of those years that a non-traditional team could have climbed high in the rankings because most of the traditional powers have shown far more vulnerability than normal. Have not identified a team that could do that this year.

[kaldaniels]

I agree....they probably will not, but there is an argument. UF's offense is terrible with Jones at QB....and the Gators still almost won. If Richardson is healthy, I do not think 'Bama is undefeated tonight.

Feels like right now.....there is some separation between 'Bama, Georgia and everyone else. Ohio State, Oklahoma and Clemson all looked mediocre today against teams that were far less talented.

I got laughed at for suggesting Clemson may lose one more game this year after the UGA game.

[RedTeamGo!]

That targeting call in the Auburn game is one of the worst I’ve seen. If the linebacker hadn’t done it the player likely would have scored. Is this even football anymore?

[adkindo]

I got laughed at for suggesting Clemson may lose one more game this year after the UGA game.

It is possible if they play like they did today.....but the ACC is so so bad. They have 2 non-con games left against the juggernauts UConn and South Carolina. Maybe @ NC State or @ Pitt if Pitt can figure out how to play some basic defense.

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That targeting call in the Auburn game is one of the worst I’ve seen. If the linebacker hadn’t done it the player likely would have scored. Is this even football anymore?

I hate it....I hate it so much.....it is changing the outcomes of games. It has to be altered this offseason.

[kaldaniels]

Ha! I had missed Brady Hoke returning to SDSU for his second stint as HC there.

(I actually thought he did a fine job there last time around)

[adkindo]

Ha! I had missed Brady Hoke returning to SDSU for his second stint as HC there.

(I actually thought he did a fine job there last time around)

I did not know that either....guess they got a big win tonight over Utah.

[Boston Red]

BYU now 3-0 against the Pac-12. Good to see that program winning at a high level again.

[adkindo]

BYU now 3-0 against the Pac-12. Good to see that program winning at a high level again.

Their schedule is interesting. There are some teams on there that could trip them up, but there is nobody that will be a big favorite against them. At the same time, there is enough quality on there to allow them to climb the rankings if they continue to win.

[GAC]

This year, I don't see Ohio State as being the top dog, the big cheese, numero uno, in the B1G. Very young. PSU and MSU look pretty solid so far IMO. And OSU faces both. And (imo), they're lucky they don't play Iowa this year.

[Chip R]

I’m just glad another team is trying to crash the top 10. College football has gotten a little boring with Alabama, Clemson, Ohio State, and Oklahoma ruling the playoffs.

I think people are tired of seeing the same teams in there year after year - except for the fans of those teams, of course. Probably won't have to worry about Clemson and tOSU this year.

[Boston Red]

Here's where college football's system can get a bit goofy: if Cincinnati wants to get into the playoffs, one of the biggest games of their season is being played this weekend, and it's UC's bye week. They need Notre Dame to beat Wisconsin at Soldier Field so that ND is a top 10 team when the Bearcats roll into South Bend. If ND loses to Wisconsin and then Cincinnati beats ND to knock them out of the top 25, the narrative is that Notre Dame just isn't any good.

[adkindo]

I think people are tired of seeing the same teams in there year after year - except for the fans of those teams, of course. Probably won't have to worry about Clemson and tOSU this year.

I will not be totally shocked if after all of this early season poor play......the playoff teams are 4 from the same group Alabama, Georgia, Oklahoma, Ohio State, Clemson and Oregon. While the blue bloods have looked rough, none of the non blue bloods have appeared to be any better.

I just go by process of elimination.....

- Besides Oregon, who else in the PAC12 appears to be able to run the table?
- Besides Oklahoma, who else in the Big12 appears to be able to run the table?
- Besides Clemson, who else in the ACC appears to be able to run the table?
- Besides Alabama and Georgia, who else in the SEC appears to be able to run the table?
- Besides Ohio State, who else in the Big10 appears to be able to run the table?

The Big10 is the only one where there may be a chance.....but Penn State barely was able to beat an above average Auburn team. Iowa will get knocked off if they can not do more on offense.....if you look into their wins over IU and Iowa State, the ball bounced their way more than normal. Michigan? I do not see it. It also does not help Cincinnati that IU and ND do not appear to be nearly as good as expected.....and now Gabriel is out for UCF. History suggests the committee will use anything they can against a G5 school. A real dark horse is BYU......just because they should have a realistic chance or be a favorite in every game they play....and their schedule has some legit brand/quality this season.....but still would put it at less than 5%.

[UKFlounder]

What if Florida wins out and beats Alabama in the SEC title game?

[Assembly Hall]

I will not be totally shocked if after all of this early season poor play......the playoff teams are 4 from the same group Alabama, Georgia, Oklahoma, Ohio State, Clemson and Oregon. While the blue bloods have looked rough, none of the non blue bloods have appeared to be any better.

I just go by process of elimination.....

- Besides Oregon, who else in the PAC12 appears to be able to run the table?
- Besides Oklahoma, who else in the Big12 appears to be able to run the table?
- Besides Clemson, who else in the ACC appears to be able to run the table?
- Besides Alabama and Georgia, who else in the SEC appears to be able to run the table?
- Besides Ohio State, who else in the Big10 appears to be able to run the table?

The Big10 is the only one where there may be a chance.....but Penn State barely was able to beat an above average Auburn team. Iowa will get knocked off if they can not do more on offense.....if you look into their wins over IU and Iowa State, the ball bounced their way more than normal. Michigan? I do not see it. It also does not help Cincinnati that IU and ND do not appear to be nearly as good as expected.....and now Gabriel is out for UCF. History suggests the committee will use anything they can against a G5 school. A real dark horse is BYU......just because they should have a realistic chance or be a favorite in every game they play....and their schedule has some legit brand/quality this season.....but still would put it at less than 5%.

I love Cougars. Meow.

[KronoRed]

What if Florida wins out and beats Alabama in the SEC title game?

Seems about as likely as cupcakes falling from the sky but ok :D

[Rojo Rijo]

I agree....they probably will not, but there is an argument. UF's offense is terrible with Jones at QB....and the Gators still almost won. If Richardson is healthy, I do not think 'Bama is undefeated tonight.

Feels like right now.....there is some separation between 'Bama, Georgia and everyone else. Ohio State, Oklahoma and Clemson all looked mediocre today against teams that were far less talented.

The OL dominated the Alabama DL and we ran for 258 yards. I wouldnt call that terrible. I'll be the first person in line to support AR as QB1 but Jones settled down and played better than expected. With that being said we are a far more dangerous team with both 5 and 15.

[adkindo]

The OL dominated the Alabama DL and we ran for 258 yards. I wouldnt call that terrible. I'll be the first person in line to support AR as QB1 but Jones settled down and played better than expected. With that being said we are a far more dangerous team with both 5 and 15.

You are not the first to tell me that Jones played better than his box score numbers suggest. I watched parts of the game, but did not lock in until the end. I recently saw a sports media outlet that does the models....where they input the data and run it 1,000's of times, and 88% of the time the Gators win that game.

[adkindo]

Doubt anyone stayed up Friday night watching high school football on ESPNU.....but it was an unreal comeback by '22 WVU commit QB Nicco Marchiol bringing his Hamilton High School back to defeat nationally ranked #7 Bishop Gorman 25-24. If you get a chance, watch the highlight video starting at the 1:11 mark. Hamilton is down 24-7 with 1:08 left in the game.....from there they score 18 points over the next minute (of clock time) topped off by going for 2 and the win. Probably the most amazing high school comeback I have seen....plus it was on national television against a national powerhouse.

I have a feeling FSU is going to regret letting Marchiol get away.....but WVU fans are glad they did....young man is a gamer.

https://www.maxpreps.com/news/zojuNZ3FsUusX1OUrb3zHQ/high-school-football--hamilton-stuns-no-7-bishop-gorman-25-24-with-18-point-comeback-in-final-minute.htm

[GAC]

- Besides Ohio State, who else in the Big10 appears to be able to run the table?

While they all have future dates against each other .... Penn State, Michigan State, Iowa. We'll see about Michigan. This Buckeye team is very young to begin with. And they're going to go through their "growing pains" like any other program. Their defense is bad right now. When you allow a last place, winless team from the American Conference to put 500+ total yards on you, then you got some big issues on that side of the ball. And it's not just the defensive coordinator (Coombs), but youth and inexperience with players a year removed from high school.

But their offense, so far, also isn't the juggernau that everyone expects. Again, youth/inexperience.

But right now, when I look at who the cream of the crop" is in the B1G, it's pretty much the same group.... OSU, PSU, Iowa, MSU, Wisconsin. And we may be seeing the "resurrection" of Michigan. The difference? OSU, this year, doesn't look the sure thing. There's kinks in their armor and blood in the water. I could see them losing two more games.

[RedTeamGo!]

While they all have future dates against each other .... Penn State, Michigan State, Iowa. We'll see about Michigan. This Buckeye team is very young to begin with. And they're going to go through their "growing pains" like any other program. Their defense is bad right now. When you allow a last place, winless team from the American Conference to put 500+ total yards on you, then you got some big issues on that side of the ball. And it's not just the defensive coordinator (Coombs), but youth and inexperience with players a year removed from high school.

But their offense, so far, also isn't the juggernau that everyone expects. Again, youth/inexperience.

But right now, when I look at who the cream of the crop" is in the B1G, it's pretty much the same group.... OSU, PSU, Iowa, MSU, Wisconsin. And we may be seeing the "resurrection" of Michigan. The difference? OSU, this year, doesn't look the sure thing. There's kinks in their armor and blood in the water. I could see them losing two more games.

Yep. Too put it more simply: with OSU being very bearable this year pretty much any of those teams can run the table. I have a feeling this is PSU’s year to go to the CFP. Their downfall is their QB, Clifford is very mediocre. Their defense is legit, though.

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PSU is going to be scary when they get Drew Allar on campus.

[Stray]

Late with my Bearcats take here but... We're seeing teams struggle w/crowds at every level of football due to the fact that last year was a Covid year w/no fans at most stadiums. But Cincy struggles for 1 half against Indiana and they're some fraud who was exposed according to a lot of these cfb pundits, even tho we outscored the Hoosiers 38-10 to end the game. Dunno how ND will play out, but I know we're better prepared for it having had that 1st half in Indiana.

[Assembly Hall]

Right here, right now...The Big Ten East is the best division in college football.

[Chip R]

Late with my Bearcats take here but... We're seeing teams struggle w/crowds at every level of football due to the fact that last year was a Covid year w/no fans at most stadiums. But Cincy struggles for 1 half against Indiana and they're some fraud who was exposed according to a lot of these cfb pundits, even tho we outscored the Hoosiers 38-10 to end the game. Dunno how ND will play out, but I know we're better prepared for it having had that 1st half in Indiana.

They did struggle in the 1st half against Murray State so it would behoove them to work on that because one of these weeks they may not be able to come back in the 2nd half.