2020/2021 Ohio State Mens Basketball

[goreds2]

Ranked #4 in the nation!!

[RedTeamGo!]

Kyle Young has really hit his stride this year. A rare Tommy TryHard that is also good offensively and super athletic. Very smart player. EJ Liddell has turned into a a very good player. Ahrens is a knockdown distance shooter that also is long and plays good defense. CJ Walker is smooth with the ball and very smart when he dribble drives. Washington is the type of player that can drop 10 points in the blink of an eye and often does. Good bench as well.

This is the type of team absolutely nobody in the country wants to play.

[bucksfan2]

They are a fun team to watch. Holtman wasn't going to turn down Wesson, but it looks like this is the type of team he favors. There is versatility all over the court, they "can" defend if they need to, they can score with the best of them. Ahrens is the best shooter they have had since Diebler, and I am surprised they don't play more two man with Ahrens and Key/Liddell.

Their greatest asset is probably depth, they have numerous guys who can take over a game and their bench goes 8-10 deep. That also may come back to bite them because I don't know if they have one elite, NBA type player on their team. But that said, they can win a game scored in the 80's or can win a slugfest like last night in Maryland.

[adkindo]

They are definitely proving themselves to be a very good team. They were not projected to be this good, and honestly those are always my favorite WVU teams....the ones that significantly outperform the projections. Those seasons just feel more rewarding/exciting for some reason.

[RedTeamGo!]

They are a fun team to watch. Holtman wasn't going to turn down Wesson, but it looks like this is the type of team he favors. There is versatility all over the court, they "can" defend if they need to, they can score with the best of them. Ahrens is the best shooter they have had since Diebler, and I am surprised they don't play more two man with Ahrens and Key/Liddell.

Their greatest asset is probably depth, they have numerous guys who can take over a game and their bench goes 8-10 deep. That also may come back to bite them because I don't know if they have one elite, NBA type player on their team. But that said, they can win a game scored in the 80's or can win a slugfest like last night in Maryland.

I agree about the NBA piece. However, I think there are 7-8 players on this team that will be very good players in top euro leagues. I could see Young playing for some Spanish team for 15 years or something haha. I could also see Ahrens going a poor man’s Duncan Robinson route and playing in the NBA for a few years.

[Assembly Hall]

I haven't seen a lot of the Bucks play so far this year. But I will get to this week end.

[bucksfan2]

I agree about the NBA piece. However, I think there are 7-8 players on this team that will be very good players in top euro leagues. I could see Young playing for some Spanish team for 15 years or something haha. I could also see Ahrens going a poor man’s Duncan Robinson route and playing in the NBA for a few years.

I think Liddell can be a NBA guy, but he isn't there yet. Ahrens is a very good college player, I don't see him having quite the release that Duncan Robinson has.

Guys like Sueing, Washington, Walker, Young all are probably euro type of players. Towns probably falls into that mix, but you don't know how healthy he will be in the future, nor do you know if he wants to go that route.

Its an unique team in that they have multiple guys who can carry the team on a given night, but don't have that go to guy when they need a bucket. There are some things that worry me about this team, but right now they are clicking and a pleasure to watch.

Also I would love to have Holtman mic'd up when Washington does something only Washington does.

[RiverRat13]

CJ Walker getting hurt was a key factor in getting the season turned around. Not that Walker is that bad, but it forced Holtmann to play Ahrns more minutes.

[RedTeamGo!]

I think Liddell can be a NBA guy, but he isn't there yet. Ahrens is a very good college player, I don't see him having quite the release that Duncan Robinson has.

Guys like Sueing, Washington, Walker, Young all are probably euro type of players. Towns probably falls into that mix, but you don't know how healthy he will be in the future, nor do you know if he wants to go that route.

Its an unique team in that they have multiple guys who can carry the team on a given night, but don't have that go to guy when they need a bucket. There are some things that worry me about this team, but right now they are clicking and a pleasure to watch.

Also I would love to have Holtman mic'd up when Washington does something only Washington does.

This team is kind of playing with house money in my book. They are not expected to be great. If they make it to the sweet 16 I would view it as a successful season. If they make it to the final four I wouldn’t exactly be shocked, but it would be a nice surprise.

[Revering4Blue]

They are a fun team to watch. Holtman wasn't going to turn down Wesson, but it looks like this is the type of team he favors. There is versatility all over the court, they "can" defend if they need to, they can score with the best of them. Ahrens is the best shooter they have had since Diebler, and I am surprised they don't play more two man with Ahrens and Key/Liddell.

Their greatest asset is probably depth, they have numerous guys who can take over a game and their bench goes 8-10 deep. That also may come back to bite them because I don't know if they have one elite, NBA type player on their team. But that said, they can win a game scored in the 80's or can win a slugfest like last night in Maryland.

Lacking the element of an elite, NBA type player may be overstated for this season. In fact, most of the projected (as of now) first round contains players from teams not projected to even qualify for the tournament and current G-League players. Michigan's Franz Wagner is the lone BIG player currently projected as a first round pick. http://www.tankathon.com/mock_draft

But you're absolutely correct about the Buckeye's depth. And it isn't simply comprised of players allowing Holtmann to steal minutes to rest starters; they all regularly contribute more than virtually any team I've viewed this season. Believe me, depth is a huge factor today, even in the NCAA tourney with its numerous TV timeouts. I see regular discussions about depth on other boards and it seems as though most old school fans believe that depth is overrated - they cite starters of yesteryear playing nearly the entire game as 'evidence' to support their claims, but their bunk. Their claim may have been true before the advent of the shot clock or when the shot clock was 45 seconds, as players could 'rest' on defense in those days, but not today with the floor spaced, requiring players to guard a greater area of the floor, even when playing a zone defense.

In short, health-permitting, the Buckeyes are in good shape moving forward, with a legitimate shot at winning it all.

[adkindo]

I haven't seen a lot of the Bucks play so far this year. But I will get to this week end.

It is in Columbus? I am guessing about a 5.5 point spread?

[bucksfan2]

Lacking the element of an elite, NBA type player may be overstated for this season. In fact, most of the projected (as of now) first round contains players from teams not projected to even qualify for the tournament and current G-League players. Michigan's Franz Wagner is the lone BIG player currently projected as a first round pick. http://www.tankathon.com/mock_draft

But you're absolutely correct about the Buckeye's depth. And it isn't simply comprised of players allowing Holtmann to steal minutes to rest starters; they all regularly contribute more than virtually any team I've viewed this season. Believe me, depth is a huge factor today, even in the NCAA tourney with its numerous TV timeouts. I see regular discussions about depth on other boards and it seems as though most old school fans believe that depth is overrated - they cite starters of yesteryear playing nearly the entire game as 'evidence' to support their claims, but their bunk. Their claim may have been true before the advent of the shot clock or when the shot clock was 45 seconds, as players could 'rest' on defense in those days, but not today with the floor spaced, requiring players to guard a greater area of the floor, even when playing a zone defense.

In short, health-permitting, the Buckeyes are in good shape moving forward, with a legitimate shot at winning it all.

I haven't really payed attention to CBB other than OSU this season. I may watch a few minutes here or there, but just don't have the time. Heck normally I watch a little more UC and XU but have probably see less than a half of their basketball combine.

OSU really has one position that they are short at, and that is point guard. CJ Walker is a very good PG, but there is limited depth behind him. Sueing and Washington are often times forced into playing PG when Walker needs a rest. Holtman has been working Meechie Johnson into the rotation, but the kid should be playing HS ball right now, combine that with him missing his entire last season, and dude is raw trying to play in the B1G. He may very well be a good PG as he matures, but isn't anywhere near that right now. If I were an opposing coach, I would press the heck out of OSU, especially when Walker isn't on the court.

I give Holtman credit because he often settles on a rotation that keeps the guys who are "hot" in the game and rests the guys who are having an off night. When/If they play Michigan, it should be a very good game to watch.

[GAC]

I have to admit I haven't followed, on a consistent basis, OSU basketball in years. But then, I'm not the biggest basketball fan anyway. But I've watched them a few times this year, their maturity is showing, and they're doing what they have to do. They have a strong bench.

I do follow the tourney, and that's where the regular season means very little (other then placing). I was reading this the other day ....

https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-state-basketball/2019/04/103449/looking-back-at-ohio-state-basketballs-11-trips-to-the-final-four

[Assembly Hall]

It is in Columbus? I am guessing about a 5.5 point spread?

Yes, and I don't know the spread.

[adkindo]

Yes, and I don't know the spread.

that was my guess....usually do not release spread until 24 hours out

[RedTeamGo!]

This is a team hitting on all cylinders right now. Indiana is having to work extremely hard for every bucket.

[RedTeamGo!]

Ha, should have kept my mouth shut

[RedTeamGo!]

Zed Key is the most underrated player in the B1G. He’s going to be an absolute menace to the rest of this conference the next 3 seasons. A true freshman, plays like a 5th year senior.

[BillDoran]

Zed Key is the most underrated player in the B1G. He’s going to be an absolute menace to the rest of this conference the next 3 seasons. A true freshman, plays like a 5th year senior.

He's 19 or 20 but plays like he's 45. Got a big butt and long arms.

This year's Ohio State squad has no stars, but just a roster deep with dudes who know how to play.

In unrelated news, it came out this week that Holtmann was offered the OSU job while he was in surgery (or just after) for hair plugs.

[Assembly Hall]

I am trying to figure out how you guys got beat by Purdue twice. Makes no sense.

[Roy Tucker]

I don’t follow OSU hoops closely, but I was a little surprised to see them projected as a #1 seed in the NCAAs.

[BuckeyeRed27]

I am trying to figure out how you guys got beat by Purdue twice. Makes no sense.

I didn’t see the first one, but the second was a little flukey. Buckeyes had a 6 point lead late and Purdue hit 3 consecutive 3 pointers including the game winner. Was really a toss up game that they should have won with a couple better possessions down the stretch.

[BuckeyeRed27]

Zed Key is the most underrated player in the B1G. He’s going to be an absolute menace to the rest of this conference the next 3 seasons. A true freshman, plays like a 5th year senior.

I love that guy. He’s playing with a lot of confidence now too. Early on they struggled when Liddell came off the floor a lot of the time, and since Key has stepped up its solved that problem.

[bucksfan2]

I remember a time when a poster who should remain nameless, RedTeamGo!, was quite animated that OSU got waited too long in firing Thad and let Archie get away. In watching the game Sat, I can say without a doubt that Holtman is a much, much better coach than Archie. What surprised me was not OSU winning by 20, but OSU couldn't guard that IU big man in the post. Whenever they went to that play, they scored. I was watching the game thinking, well thank god they aren't going into the post again.

This is Holtman's most complete team and a team that I think fits the vision of how he wants to play. This isn't a plodding team like they were with Wesson in the post, rather a team that can get up and down the court, has wings who can score and is the deepest team I have seen in a long time.

I don't think they end up with the 1 seed, they have a tough schedule ahead of them, but still think they should get a 2 seed. This tournament will be interesting because a lot of talent, and a lot of bluebloods will be on the bubble. Could you imagine Duke playing in the play in game? Or UNC getting a 12 seed, drawing Kansas as a 5 seed in your region? This tournament may be the most up for grabs in a long time, especially if Gonzaga or Baylor get knocked off.

[BuckeyeRed27]

The remaining schedule is:

@ Penn State
Michigan
@ Michigan State
Iowa
Illinois
Big Ten Tournament

So still have 3 top 15 teams left to play, but they do get to play them all at home FWIW. Probably need to go 4-1 and then not lose their first game in the Big Ten Tournament to get a 1 seed.

Pretty excited for that Michigan game.

[RedTeamGo!]

I remember a time when a poster who should remain nameless, RedTeamGo!, was quite animated that OSU got waited too long in firing Thad and let Archie get away. In watching the game Sat, I can say without a doubt that Holtman is a much, much better coach than Archie. What surprised me was not OSU winning by 20, but OSU couldn't guard that IU big man in the post. Whenever they went to that play, they scored. I was watching the game thinking, well thank god they aren't going into the post again.

This is Holtman's most complete team and a team that I think fits the vision of how he wants to play. This isn't a plodding team like they were with Wesson in the post, rather a team that can get up and down the court, has wings who can score and is the deepest team I have seen in a long time.

I don't think they end up with the 1 seed, they have a tough schedule ahead of them, but still think they should get a 2 seed. This tournament will be interesting because a lot of talent, and a lot of bluebloods will be on the bubble. Could you imagine Duke playing in the play in game? Or UNC getting a 12 seed, drawing Kansas as a 5 seed in your region? This tournament may be the most up for grabs in a long time, especially if Gonzaga or Baylor get knocked off.

Holtmann is clearly better than Archie and am glad he’s the coach. With that said, I think the team this year absolutely proves I was right about Matta. As I’ve always said: Matta is a great recruiter, terrible coach. Holtmann is a decent recruiter, but elite coach. I’ll take the elite coach every single day at college level. The style of play with the Buckeyes right now is EXACTLY what I wanted from all those Matta teams. They actually have a plan on offense, run plays, and spread the ball around.

I feel like you’re post is supposed to be some kind of gotcha at me, but I view it as showing I was right about Matta having to go.

[bucksfan2]

Holtmann is clearly better than Archie and am glad he’s the coach. With that said, I think the team this year absolutely proves I was right about Matta. As I’ve always said: Matta is a great recruiter, terrible coach. Holtmann is a decent recruiter, but elite coach. I’ll take the elite coach every single day at college level. The style of play with the Buckeyes right now is EXACTLY what I wanted from all those Matta teams. They actually have a plan on offense, run plays, and spread the ball around.

I feel like you’re post is supposed to be some kind of gotcha at me, but I view it as showing I was right about Matta having to go.

Na, I just remember the time when Matta was hanging around, Miller was the hot commodity, and people (you are really the only one I remember) were clamoring for Archie.

I don't want to relitigate the Matta era, but I think he needed a reset. His last two big recruiting classes were epic failures. The Williams, Scott, etc. class never developed and his final class was all gone within a season or two. I do think Holtman is a far better schemer than Matta was, Matta often times was going to out talent a lot of guys. That said, when he has things rolling they were a threat to win the B1G every season. Holtman's teams haven't been that so far.

I am interested to see how Holtman continues to build going forward. Will it be a mix of recruits and transfers? Will they continue to lose players to transfer? Last season I could have sworn that Muhammad and Carton would have been key pieces this season, but they both are gone. And FWIW I watched a little of the Marquette game and Carton didn't look like the same player he was last season. Will he build teams like Mike Bray does at ND with a mix of transfers and recruits? He wants to get old quickly to compete in the ACC.

[RiverRat13]

Matta was an elite defensive coach until the botched surgery left him with the limp. I won't argue that he was an offensive guru and his post 2012 teams were at time painful to watch. But Matta was a fine coach, not just a recruiter. Holtmann will do well to come close to matching Thad's OSU resume.

Archie would have done well at Ohio State. I wouldn't trade him for Holtmann, but it is obvious at this point that Ohio State is a better job than Indiana.

[BuckeyeRed27]

Solid win against Penn St. Michigan is next up Sunday afternoon.

[bucksfan2]

Solid win against Penn St. Michigan is next up Sunday afternoon.

While PSU is better than their record indicates, that was a game they had to win if they want to stay on the 1 line. And about 5 minutes into the 2nd half I thought PSU may get them. Everything they threw up went in, and too often those types of games are hard to overcome. That said, OSU was ready to pounce when they started to miss.

[BuckeyeRed27]

While PSU is better than their record indicates, that was a game they had to win if they want to stay on the 1 line. And about 5 minutes into the 2nd half I thought PSU may get them. Everything they threw up went in, and too often those types of games are hard to overcome. That said, OSU was ready to pounce when they started to miss.

I’ll take the blame. I had to step away for about 20 minutes and missed the whole Penn St run, came back just in time for the 16-0 Buckeye run to get the lead back and keep it.

[Revering4Blue]

As someone with no dog in the fight - though, I'd like to see all B1G programs live up their potential - I'm just pleased that both tOSU and Michigan took care of business last night, and avoided trap game losses in the process.

Sunday's clash with Michigan is must see TV for any CBB fan.

As an aside, it seems like forever since both schools matched up on the Football field with both sporting highly ranked teams akin to what we'll witness Sunday on the hardwood.

[RedTeamGo!]

As someone with no dog in the fight - though, I'd like to see all B1G programs live up their potential - I'm just pleased that both tOSU and Michigan took care of business last night, and avoided trap game losses in the process.

Sunday's clash with Michigan is must see TV for any CBB fan.

As an aside, it seems like forever since both schools matched up on the Football field with both sporting highly ranked teams akin to what we'll witness Sunday on the hardwood.

OSU and UM have had at least one top 10 football game in the past 5 years. I think 2 years ago when Shea Patterson was a junior.

[BuckeyeRed27]

OSU and UM have had at least one top 10 football game in the past 5 years. I think 2 years ago when Shea Patterson was a junior.

2016 was 2 vs 3 and went to Double OT. Year before that they were both in the Top 10 also.

I’m still very excited for Sunday though, it’s cool to have a game like this.

[goreds2]

REMINDER: OSU vs Team up North today 1pm est. on CBS.

[BuckeyeRed27]

Good game so far. Michigan very solid defensive team, they challenge everything.

[RedTeamGo!]

Not a good feel about this game. OSU has been ran through a gauntlet this month and is really banged up. Michigan basically had the month off. Look well rested.

[RedTeamGo!]

Ha, well going to be hard to win if Michigan literally doesn’t miss from 3

[BuckeyeRed27]

Yeah they aren’t really missing, doesn’t seem very sustainable, but they are getting good looks.

[RedTeamGo!]

Bull**** play at the end. Dickerson grabbed Sueing while Johns drove. Basket shouldn’t have counted.

[BuckeyeRed27]

Feel like OSU is slightly better. Michigan shooting is keeping them in it.

[Assembly Hall]

Helluva game thus far...

[RedTeamGo!]

Helluva game thus far...

Yeah, both these teams are legit and deserve their top 5 ranking, no matter who wins.

[BuckeyeRed27]

This is fun.

[Assembly Hall]

Officials appear to be getting nervous with some questionable calls/non-calls.

[Assembly Hall]

Nice pass by Sueing...

[BuckeyeRed27]

Nice pass by Sueing...

Tough time for that..

[Assembly Hall]

Tough time for that..

Gonna cost the Bucks the ballgame...

[kaldaniels]

UM came up big in the paint down the stretch and that’s the difference.

Both teams better off for today’s tough game.

[BuckeyeRed27]

UM came up big in the paint down the stretch and that’s the difference.

Both teams better off for today’s tough game.

Yeah Dickinson had a monster finish. The Sueing and Walker turnovers that led to fast break points were also big in a game like this.

[Assembly Hall]

One of the best games I have watched all year.

[RedTeamGo!]

Good game, Michigan was extremely hot from 3. Frankly surprised it was as close as it was. Both teams are legit. I could also see both these teams losing by the sweet 16. Weird year.

[westofyou]

This is a good Michigan team, they are well rounded and have an offensive big man in the paint and lots of other guys to color that

Defensively they can be smothering and quick. The transfers put them over the top, without Brown and Smith they’d be down an experienced point guard and a quality 6th man

[adkindo]

last few years Ohio State Men's Basketball has resembled Icarus.....they fly a little too close to the sun and their season explodes.

[RedTeamGo!]

last few years Ohio State Men's Basketball has resembled Icarus.....they fly a little too close to the sun and their season explodes.

They were due for a slide and Kyle Young (the heart of the team) has been out the MSU game with a concussion. Meh.

[BuckeyeRed27]

Yeah not worried about it. The Sparty game was absolutely criminal officiating. They won that game by 5-9 points without it and missing Young was tough.

Iowa is a bad match up. They don’t have anyone to slow down Garza. They got lucky to beat them in Iowa before.

If OSU does go far it’ll be in no small part because they don’t run into a team with a dominate big man, they’ve struggled against that and don’t have any answers for it outside of shooting the lights out.

[Assembly Hall]

last few years Ohio State Men's Basketball has resembled Icarus.....they fly a little too close to the sun and their season explodes.

I don't know about that but I love the Greek Mythology reference.

[bucksfan2]

Thud.

The backend of this schedule was brutal and its really playing out that way. I think there is a way to beat OSU that MSU and Iowa did, slow them down, make the game ugly, make OSU work to score 60+ points. They also struggle with a big post presence, which Michigan and Iowa have. FWIW, the only way MSU can compete is if they turn the game into a football game, and they succeeded at that against OSU.

[BuckeyeRed27]

Big factor in the last 3 games is Ahrens has scored 0, 0 and 3 points and only attempted 4 three pointers total.

[BillDoran]

Big factor in the last 3 games is Ahrens has scored 0, 0 and 3 points and only attempted 4 three pointers total.

He's a pretty easy scout. Do everything in your power to run him off the 3-pt line (of course, easier said than done).

He had back-to-back breakaways against Sparty and backed the first one, and the second was blocked. The book has long been out on him, but that really drove home how uncomfortable he is outside his long-range role. It just kinda blew me away, especially since he's a pretty long 6'6".

Anyways, I'm still pretty high on the team. I don't think they were ever quite as good as No. 4, but I think they can make some noise in the tournament. More than anything, they're fun to watch.

[bucksfan2]

He's a pretty easy scout. Do everything in your power to run him off the 3-pt line (of course, easier said than done).

He had back-to-back breakaways against Sparty and backed the first one, and the second was blocked. The book has long been out on him, but that really drove home how uncomfortable he is outside his long-range role. It just kinda blew me away, especially since he's a pretty long 6'6".

Anyways, I'm still pretty high on the team. I don't think they were ever quite as good as No. 4, but I think they can make some noise in the tournament. More than anything, they're fun to watch.

Ahrens is a piece to this team, not a must. There are times when Holtman has benched Liddell and Sueing because the people on the floor have been playing well. I think Holtman adjust depending on the style of game and who is hot.

Just watching the second half, Liddell looked shot, just worn down. And it was noted that Sueing had been dealing with a sprained ankle. Sueing hasn't looked the same over the past few games, IMO getting him playing at a high level again is far more important than Ahrens.

[BuckeyeRed27]

Ahrens is a piece to this team, not a must. There are times when Holtman has benched Liddell and Sueing because the people on the floor have been playing well. I think Holtman adjust depending on the style of game and who is hot.

Just watching the second half, Liddell looked shot, just worn down. And it was noted that Sueing had been dealing with a sprained ankle. Sueing hasn't looked the same over the past few games, IMO getting him playing at a high level again is far more important than Ahrens.

I think Ahrens is a must. He spaces the floor and allows the rest of the offense to work better. Nothing has come easy the last 3 games, and it’s not just because Ahrens isn’t shooting, but it is part of it.

[adkindo]

I don't know about that but I love the Greek Mythology reference.

yeah, it is a little over the top....but the last 3 years they have had this fast rise, then fall to some level and never really climb again. Clearly we are at the end of the season, so it is different as it may just be a 3 game skid. Most teams climb up the rankings, fall back down, climb back up, fall back down.

[Assembly Hall]

Ahrens is a piece to this team, not a must. There are times when Holtman has benched Liddell and Sueing because the people on the floor have been playing well. I think Holtman adjust depending on the style of game and who is hot.

Just watching the second half, Liddell looked shot, just worn down. And it was noted that Sueing had been dealing with a sprained ankle. Sueing hasn't looked the same over the past few games, IMO getting him playing at a high level again is far more important than Ahrens.

It is Holtmann.....not Holtman. Geez.

[RiverRat13]

Complete cluster at the end of the game - again. Liddell carried the team in the 2nd half yet Washington is allowed to play hero ball to disastrous results in the final 3 minutes.

[RedTeamGo!]

When Washington is on they can beat anyone in the country, when he is off, woo boy. They lost that game because of Washington playing hero ball at the end and not even hitting the rim. I would have taken him out if I were Holtmann. Just a brutal end to the season. A 1 seed to likely 3 seed (maybe 4 seed) in under 2 weeks. Buckeye basketball in a nutshell.

[BuckeyeRed27]

When Washington is on they can beat anyone in the country, when he is off, woo boy. They lost that game because of Washington playing hero ball at the end and not even hitting the rim. I would have taken him out if I were Holtmann. Just a brutal end to the season. A 1 seed to likely 3 seed (maybe 4 seed) in under 2 weeks. Buckeye basketball in a nutshell.

Tough because they absolutely could and probably should have gone 3-1. Hopefully they learn from it and get better at these crunch time situations. There’s not all that much of a difference between a 1 and a 3 seed, but would be nice to see them put something together in the conference tournament just to get some confidence back.

[RedTeamGo!]

Tough because they absolutely could and probably should have gone 3-1. Hopefully they learn from it and get better at these crunch time situations. There’s not all that much of a difference between a 1 and a 3 seed, but would be nice to see them put something together in the conference tournament just to get some confidence back.

Their confidence has to be non-existent right now.

[BuckeyeRed27]

Their confidence has to be non-existent right now.

Some of the players at least. Ahrens is all over the place. Walker isn’t playing well.

[Ash11]

Tough because they absolutely could and probably should have gone 3-1. Hopefully they learn from it and get better at these crunch time situations. There’s not all that much of a difference between a 1 and a 3 seed, but would be nice to see them put something together in the conference tournament just to get some confidence back.


Lol. Yes the team that has lost 4 in a row should have won 3 of those. Ohio state fans are delusional whiners

[BuckeyeRed27]

Lol. Yes the team that has lost 4 in a row should have won 3 of those. Ohio state fans are delusional whiners

Great to have you here you worthless troll.

[Ash11]

Great to have you here you worthless troll.

I won 3k betting against osu. They rarely cover a big game

[RedTeamGo!]

I won 3k betting against osu.

Prove it.

[Ash11]

Prove it.

How would u like me to do that?

[BuckeyeRed27]

I won 3k betting against osu. They rarely cover a big game

They are over 500 ATS and have covered against Illinois, Wisconsin, Iowa and Michigan St.

Again great to have you here.

[Ash11]

Prove it.17031

[Ash11]

They are over 500 ATS and have covered against Illinois, Wisconsin, Iowa and Michigan St.

Again great to have you here.


One and done. Rmeber last year they went like 8 games in a row without covering. Lol

[BuckeyeRed27]

One and done. Rmeber last year they went like 8 games in a row without covering. Lol

You gonna bet on them to lose in the first round? I’ll bet you $3k, I know you got it.

[Ash11]

You gonna bet on them to lose in the first round? I’ll bet you $3k, I know you got it.

One and done. Means they don’t get past round of 32

Ok I’ll take the bet. Venmo max 2k per day. You’ll need to send it over 2 days.

[BuckeyeRed27]

One and done. Means they don’t get past round of 32

Ok I’ll take the bet. Venmo max 2k per day. You’ll need to send it over 2 days.

That’s not what one and done means.

[Ash11]

That’s not what one and done means.

Yes it does.

So are you taking the bet? Osu won’t get to the sweet 16.

3k

[BuckeyeRed27]

You seem to struggle with understanding basic things like what one and done means and could have won 3 close games.

It’s been fun troll have a good night. If you really wanna talk hoops let us know.

[bucksfan2]

As the season progressed you knew this was going to be a brutal stretch run. If there is a better team in the country than Illinois, I would like to see them play.

All along I thought this was a confusing team, a team that could make a run, or a team that could flame out early. Hopefully they have a game (or two) in the B1G to get right. All season long they have played one or two bad games, hardly a team that I am disappointed with.

[BuckeyeRed27]

Buckeyes are the 5 seed in the Big Ten Tournament and will play the Minnesota/Northwestern winner on Thursday. If they win, they'll play Purdue on Friday. Purdue beat them twice, but both were close toss up type games.

[RedTeamGo!]

As the season progressed you knew this was going to be a brutal stretch run. If there is a better team in the country than Illinois, I would like to see them play.

All along I thought this was a confusing team, a team that could make a run, or a team that could flame out early. Hopefully they have a game (or two) in the B1G to get right. All season long they have played one or two bad games, hardly a team that I am disappointed with.

You obviously haven’t watched Gonzaga, lol. Clearly the best team in the country IMHO.

[Boston Red]

Well, Gonzaga did have that ONE game they won by only single digits. It's pretty reminiscent of 1991 UNLV at this point. Granted, we know how that story ended.

[BuckeyeRed27]

You obviously haven’t watched Gonzaga, lol. Clearly the best team in the country IMHO.

Gonzaga is clearly very very good. They have only played 6 games in a month and they've all been complete blowouts. I do wonder if that will impact them at all when they get into a fight. That said I'm still picking them to win it all.

[Ash11]

Gonzaga is clearly very very good. They have only played 6 games in a month and they've all been complete blowouts. I do wonder if that will impact them at all when they get into a fight. That said I'm still picking them to win it all.

Im going with Illinois. And a flyer on wvu.

I went to Dayton, they were awful this year, even with what they lost. very poor season for UD

Zags odds to win it all are like 6:1. Not enough upside imo

17032

[bucksfan2]

You obviously haven’t watched Gonzaga, lol. Clearly the best team in the country IMHO.

Nope, can't say I have watched much of them. I am always a little leary of Gonzaga in the tournament because after the first round they are facing competition they haven't seen since December.

Illinois has a dominant big who can run the floor, they have an all american guard, and then guys who can get to the rim when need be. When on, I think they are the best team I have seen OSU play this year.

One concern I have with a lot of B1G teams, is there reliance on the big man. In today's game, the big C isn't what it used to be, and the B1G is chalk full of seven footers.

[RedTeamGo!]

Im going with Illinois. And a flyer on wvu.

I went to Dayton, they were awful this year, even with what they lost. very poor season for UD

Zags odds to win it all are like 6:1. Not enough upside imo

17032

I also went to UD. I’ll never get over last year.

[BuckeyeRed27]

Nope, can't say I have watched much of them. I am always a little leary of Gonzaga in the tournament because after the first round they are facing competition they haven't seen since December.

Illinois has a dominant big who can run the floor, they have an all american guard, and then guys who can get to the rim when need be. When on, I think they are the best team I have seen OSU play this year.

One concern I have with a lot of B1G teams, is there reliance on the big man. In today's game, the big C isn't what it used to be, and the B1G is chalk full of seven footers.

That's why I think Iowa is a little more dangerous than Illinois because of Garza's versatility and ability to shoot the 3.

[RedTeamGo!]

Nope, can't say I have watched much of them. I am always a little leary of Gonzaga in the tournament because after the first round they are facing competition they haven't seen since December.

Illinois has a dominant big who can run the floor, they have an all american guard, and then guys who can get to the rim when need be. When on, I think they are the best team I have seen OSU play this year.

One concern I have with a lot of B1G teams, is there reliance on the big man. In today's game, the big C isn't what it used to be, and the B1G is chalk full of seven footers.

Gonzaga is deep and also has a top 3 draft pick, another first round pick, and another 2nd round pick. This isn’t your older brother’s Gonzaga.

[Ash11]

I also went to UD. I’ll never get over last year.

Brutal.

It was a 363 days from today when everything basically stopped.

Had flight and hotel to Cleveland for the uD Friday and Sunday games too.

This years team should have still been better. Crutcher is not an nba player. And the rest of the team felt unorganized and frantic most games.

Hell they lost to Fordham!

[RedTeamGo!]

Brutal.

It was a 363 days from today when everything basically stopped.

Had flight and hotel to Cleveland for the uD Friday and Sunday games too.

This years team should have still been better. Crutcher is not an nba player. And the rest of the team felt unorganized and frantic most games.

Hell they lost to Fordham!

I live in Cleveland. Had the whole crew coming up, had the brewery picked out before the games. Such a bummer.

This year something just never clicked. It also shows how important Obi was. I have high hopes for the recruiting class coming in. Grant is great at evaluating talent. At the end of the day, it just shows how special the team was last year.

I say this in complete seriousness: last year was the best chance UD will ever have to win a national championship. It was the best team in program history. And I don’t mean that in past tense. I mean it in past and future tense. They can play basketball for 1,000 more years and Dayton will never be that good again.

Absolutely no guarantee they would have even made it to the final four, but we will never know. It is difficult for me to get excited about Dayton basketball moving forward knowing we will never see as good of a team as we had last year. What’s the point? Players like Obi only happen once for mid majors. There’s always reasons it happens. In Obi’s case he was an extreme late bloomer. Grant hit the powerball. As Flyer fans we will never see anything like him again. Never.

[Ash11]

I live in Cleveland. Had the whole crew coming up, had the brewery picked out before the games. Such a bummer.

This year something just never clicked. It also shows how important Obi was. I have high hopes for the recruiting class coming in. Grant is great at evaluating talent. At the end of the day, it just shows how special the team was last year.

I say this in complete seriousness: last year was the best chance UD will ever have to win a national championship. It was the best team in program history. And I don’t mean that in past tense. I mean it in past and future tense. They can play basketball for 1,000 more years and Dayton will never be that good again.

Absolutely no guarantee they would have even made it to the final four, but we will never know. It is difficult for me to get excited about Dayton basketball moving forward knowing we will never see as good of a team as we had last year. What’s the point? Players like Obi only happen once for mid majors. There’s always reasons it happens. In Obi’s case he was an extreme late bloomer. Grant hit the powerball. As Flyer fans we will never see anything like him again. Never.

Agreed.

Hope next year is better w fans at home.

You’re right about last year. Topin was a fluke, no one wanted the guy. Not even like d2 teams

Last years team had it all w a star like him. The team 5 years ago that went to elite 8 was awesome. Senior led. Athletic. 4-5 10 pt scorers. But last years team was nearly perfect.

When u grow up watching teams w Finn, Kurt huesselman. Nate green. Schoochie smith, etc. those teams were never going to do anything.

Last year was the year. Dang.

[RedTeamGo!]

Agreed.

Hope next year is better w fans at home.

You’re right about last year. Topin was a fluke, no one wanted the guy. Not even like d2 teams

Last years team had it all w a star like him. The team 5 years ago that went to elite 8 was awesome. Senior led. Athletic. 4-5 10 pt scorers. But last years team was nearly perfect.

When u grow up watching teams w Finn, Kurt huesselman. Nate green. Schoochie smith, etc. those teams were never going to do anything.

Last year was the year. Dang.

I was on campus with Nate Green, Finn, Bennett, and the GOAT Keith Waleskowski.

[Ash11]

I was on campus with Nate Green, Finn, Bennett, and the GOAT Keith Waleskowski.

Lol. Same. Monty Scott was like our Vince carter

[Ash11]

I stand corrected on toppin

He had offers from Uri gtown a and m. Tx tech etc.

But only after he went to the prep school.

Right out of hs he didn’t get 1 d1 offer

[bucksfan2]

That's why I think Iowa is a little more dangerous than Illinois because of Garza's versatility and ability to shoot the 3.

See I think Illinois is more dangerous. Garza may be able to shoot the 3, but I think Illinois is far deeper. Dosunmu is far better than anything Iowa has on the permeter, Curbelo got to the rim whenever he wanted to against OSU, and Illinois has a backup up big man who can play if Cockburn gets into foul trouble.

I think Iowa is a team that could bow out early (cue the Final 4 run) because they are reliant on Garza in the post and shooting the 3 ball. A quick whistle on Garza could leave him on the bench for a lot of the game, and if you go cold shooting the ball, Iowa is in deep trouble. Also I am not a big fan of McCafferty as a coach.

[Ash11]

See I think Illinois is more dangerous. Garza may be able to shoot the 3, but I think Illinois is far deeper. Dosunmu is far better than anything Iowa has on the permeter, Curbelo got to the rim whenever he wanted to against OSU, and Illinois has a backup up big man who can play if Cockburn gets into foul trouble.

I think Iowa is a team that could bow out early (cue the Final 4 run) because they are reliant on Garza in the post and shooting the 3 ball. A quick whistle on Garza could leave him on the bench for a lot of the game, and if you go cold shooting the ball, Iowa is in deep trouble. Also I am not a big fan of McCafferty as a coach.

His son. The guard. Is horrific. Has no business playing out there

[BuckeyeRed27]

No idea how they made this game close, but man they do some dumb dumb stuff in the last 4 minutes of games. A win is a win I guess.

[Ash11]

They can not cover a spread.

It’s easy money.

[Boston Red]

I had Minnesota ML. The Buckeyes couldn't throw me a bone in what is basically a meaningless game for them?

[BuckeyeRed27]

They can not cover a spread.

It’s easy money.

Not this month.

14 point lead with 3 minutes to go and 12 point lead with 90 seconds to go and ends up being a 1 point game with 15 seconds. That’s legit hard to do.

[BuckeyeRed27]

I had Minnesota ML. The Buckeyes couldn't throw me a bone in what is basically a meaningless game for them?

Not sure it was meaningless. Going into the tournament on a 5 game losing streak is tough on the psyche.

[bucksfan2]

Not this month.

14 point lead with 3 minutes to go and 12 point lead with 90 seconds to go and ends up being a 1 point game with 15 seconds. That’s legit hard to do.

OSU made a couple of bad plays, two come to mind, CJ Walker trying for a layup instead of running clock and getting fouled, the TO in the back court. Couple that with Sueing missing two FT's. But Minnesota was throwing stuff in that weren't exactly good shots.

Stuff like that happens, and when it starts to snowball it can get out of control. Them holding on, and getting the W was big after a four game slide.

[BuckeyeRed27]

OSU made a couple of bad plays, two come to mind, CJ Walker trying for a layup instead of running clock and getting fouled, the TO in the back court. Couple that with Sueing missing two FT's. But Minnesota was throwing stuff in that weren't exactly good shots.

Stuff like that happens, and when it starts to snowball it can get out of control. Them holding on, and getting the W was big after a four game slide.

Walker made the 2 bad plays like you said. Throwing the dumb back court pass and going for a contested layup are just things you can't do in end of game situations. He is supposed to be out there for his leadership and decision making too, but he's been pretty bad recently. Not just yesterday, but more in general.

Purdue today around 2pm. Should be an interesting game. Purdue won both games, but Liddell missed one and the other was a 3 pointer at the buzzer.

[bucksfan2]

Walker made the 2 bad plays like you said. Throwing the dumb back court pass and going for a contested layup are just things you can't do in end of game situations. He is supposed to be out there for his leadership and decision making too, but he's been pretty bad recently. Not just yesterday, but more in general.

Purdue today around 2pm. Should be an interesting game. Purdue won both games, but Liddell missed one and the other was a 3 pointer at the buzzer.

Yea, crazy things happen when the other team lays it all out.

The Walker layup was what bothered me because it wasn't a smart play. Although you could argue he got fouled on that play. Walker needs to realize that he is a 90%+ FT shooter, all he has to do is pull it out and hold onto the ball awaiting the foul. However, its also one of those plays where if the ball goes in, its game over. It reminded me a lot of the end of the Illinois game, where OSU threw up some "poor" shots, but if one of them fell it was game over.

All that said about Walker, he was the guy who made the smart TO call when Washington was in the coffin corner close to a TO.

[BuckeyeRed27]

Yea, crazy things happen when the other team lays it all out.

The Walker layup was what bothered me because it wasn't a smart play. Although you could argue he got fouled on that play. Walker needs to realize that he is a 90%+ FT shooter, all he has to do is pull it out and hold onto the ball awaiting the foul. However, its also one of those plays where if the ball goes in, its game over. It reminded me a lot of the end of the Illinois game, where OSU threw up some "poor" shots, but if one of them fell it was game over.

All that said about Walker, he was the guy who made the smart TO call when Washington was in the coffin corner close to a TO.

I was going to mention the TO, which was a smart play. When Minnesota was trapping, it was first driving me nuts that they kept inbounding to the side and then secondly they had 2 timeouts that they were apparently allergic to use.

[bucksfan2]

I was going to mention the TO, which was a smart play. When Minnesota was trapping, it was first driving me nuts that they kept inbounding to the side and then secondly they had 2 timeouts that they were apparently allergic to use.

I have long thought I would press the heck out of OSU this year. Walker is a good PG, Washington and Sueing the other guys who "can" handle the ball are more scorers and slashers than PG's. Minnesota got what they wanted, they sped OSU up, caused a couple of mistakes, and hit some improbably shots. Crazy thing is, Minnesota did about everything right, and still lost. OSU does one thing right, they win that game easily.

All credit to Minnesota for making that game close, but over those last 90 seconds are so, were there really any shots where you went "Man that was too easy." I was watching it more thinking "you got to be kidding me." If you take away the steal, and maybe a bad foul, I think most of the shots they made were shots that you want them to take late in a game.

[BuckeyeRed27]

Kyle Young is a matchup nightmare so far for Purdue and he’s been red hot from 3 to make them pay.

[BuckeyeRed27]

Well the Ohio State team that could possibly compete for a national championship showed back up that half. Hope they decide to stay.

[Boston Red]

Well the Ohio State team that could possibly compete for a national championship showed back up that half. Hope they decide to stay.

And go ahead and hold on to cover the 1!

[Boston Red]

They're going to blow the whole lead, aren't they? :(

[BuckeyeRed27]

They're going to blow the whole lead, aren't they? :(

Purdue is definitely playing significantly better defense and OSU is missing their looks.

Bummer about Kyle Young. Took an elbow to the head and clearly has a concussion. He missed some time with one earlier this season, so there’s a chance he might be done.

[Boston Red]

Ash11 warned me. This is unbelievable.

[RiverRat13]

The Holtmann is elite and Thad was a trash in-game coach take isn't holding up very well. I can't remember Thad having as many epic collapses in 11 seasons as Holtmann's teams have had this year alone.

[Boston Red]

Wow, that's awful. Ohio State winning in OT would be a miracle.

In my face. Ohio State learned to play again in OT. Impressive.

[BuckeyeRed27]

Wow, that's awful. Ohio State winning in OT would be a miracle.

In my face. Ohio State learned to play again in OT. Impressive.

Well they couldn’t possibly keep playing as bad as they did on the second half.

Buckeyes cover.

[Ash11]

Ash11 warned me. This is unbelievable.

I actually took bucks -1. I was furious during last 5 mins; they played well in ot

I don’t trust them at all in March. Will fade accordingly

[BuckeyeRed27]

I’ve said it before, but March will just depend on match ups. They struggle against good big men and they are a just ok defensive team.

[westofyou]

Livers is out indefinitely with a stress injury of the foot. That's a big hit for UM. That means more minutes for Brandon Johns and Brown so they don't take a hit experience wise but losing Livers is huge

[BuckeyeRed27]

Livers is out indefinitely with a stress injury of the foot. That's a big hit for UM. That means more minutes for Brandon Johns and Brown so they don't take a hit experience wise but losing Livers is huge

Ouch, that’s a bummer.

Kyle Young is out today as expected with a concussion.

[BuckeyeRed27]

Well so far this hasn’t been nearly as good as the game they played a couple weeks ago.

[RedTeamGo!]

Kyle Young is the heart, soul, and brain of this team. They better pray he back for the tourney.

[BuckeyeRed27]

Kyle Young is the heart, soul, and brain of this team. They better pray he back for the tourney.

There aren’t many teams that can guard Liddell, Young and Sueing so the offense works better. Lots of teams can guard 2 of them though.

Washington and Liddell with big time performances in the second half so far.

[RedTeamGo!]

It is absolutely incredible how this team just cannot finish games. Absolutely embarrassing.

[BuckeyeRed27]

It is absolutely incredible how this team just cannot finish games. Absolutely embarrassing.

Don’t even care a little bit right now!

[RedTeamGo!]

That little PG for Michigan falls down every time he shoots the ball. I hate players that do that.

Did OSU cover?

[BuckeyeRed27]

That little PG for Michigan falls down every time he shoots the ball. I hate players that do that.

Did OSU cover?

Yeah I think Michigan was 5 point favorites. Covering machines!

[RiverRat13]

23rd B1G Tournament championship game tomorrow. OSU has now appeared in 10 of them. Wisconsin and MSU are next with 7 apiece.

[BuckeyeRed27]

23rd B1G Tournament championship game tomorrow. OSU has now appeared in 10 of them. Wisconsin and MSU are next with 7 apiece.

Didn’t know that. First appearance since they won it in 13. Illinois hasn’t been to the final since 08 and Iowa hasn’t been there since 06 (when they beat OSU).

[westofyou]

That little PG for Michigan falls down every time he shoots the ball. I hate players that do that.

Did OSU cover?

I’ve seen him knocked in his arse so many times this year, not really an act he’s been smashed all season

[goreds2]

3:30pm on CBS today.

OHHHHH _ H!

[BuckeyeRed27]

Not sure it’s happening today. They look wiped.

[RedTeamGo!]

Not sure it’s happening today. They look wiped.

Had a feeling that was going to happen. 3 straight high intensity games + Kyle Young out. This week should secure a 2 seed, though. Gotta figure Bama is going to jump Michigan.

[BuckeyeRed27]

Had a feeling that was going to happen. 3 straight high intensity games + Kyle Young out. This week should secure a 2 seed, though. Gotta figure Bama is going to jump Michigan.

Yeah I don’t think they were getting a 1 even if they won today.

Maybe they find their legs, but Illinois is so good I’m not sure it matters.

[BuckeyeRed27]

Scrappy

[goreds2]

Bucks down by 5 with 3:21 remaining. Great game.

[goreds2]

OVERTIME

[Boston Red]

Big shot at the buzzer!!!!

[BuckeyeRed27]

Good to see the fight after that miserable start. Nothing wrong with losing to Illinois in OT.

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Big shot at the buzzer!!!!

So you’re saying they covered?

[goreds2]

Illinois just a little better team today. Look forward to the BIG DANCE.

[goreds2]

Bucks are number 2 seed. Play Oral Roberts on Friday.

[BuckeyeRed27]

Bucks are number 2 seed. Play Oral Roberts on Friday.

Then the Florida/VT winner and Arkansas is the 3 seed. That’s a pretty good draw for the Buckeyes.

[RedTeamGo!]

Then the Florida/VT winner and Arkansas is the 3 seed. That’s a pretty good draw for the Buckeyes.

Florida always seems to have the Bucks number. In all sports.

[BuckeyeRed27]

Florida always seems to have the Bucks number. In all sports.

Well not for like a decade.

Buckeyes actually have won 3 of the last 4 in baseball since that national championship game.

I don’t formally recognize the Luke Fickell coached Gator Bowl as something that actually happened.

[Ash11]

After fading the bucks for 5 straight. I bet them in every game this past tourney. They covered fri sat and sun

I think oral Robert’s beats them straight up.

[BuckeyeRed27]

After fading the bucks for 5 straight. I bet them in every game this past tourney. They covered fri sat and sun

I think oral Robert’s beats them straight up.

Vegas will give you 17 points.

[goreds2]

Bucks are number 2 seed. Play Oral Roberts on Friday.
3pm est. today on CBS.

[BuckeyeRed27]

Kyle Young is still out today. Probably ok today, but will need him back to make a serious run.

[goreds2]

Bucks down 36-33 at halftime. Oral Roberts can shot the 3's and are adequate driving to the hoop.

[goreds2]

Bucks down by 7 with 12:25 remaining. Seems like they are trying to match Oral Roberts 3 pt. outside shooting and are throwing bricks at the moment.

[BuckeyeRed27]

Awful performance. OR is just playing harder. Simple as that.

[goreds2]

Awful performance. OR is just playing harder. Simple as that. Yep, I see no "Eye of the Tiger" from the Buckeyes thus far.

[BuckeyeRed27]

Yep, I see no "Eye of the Tiger" from the Buckeyes thus far.

They’ve made some good defensive adjustments. But the offense is just going through the motions, lazy passes, bad shot selection, tons of turnovers. Just awful.

[Assembly Hall]

Free throw shooting...

[Assembly Hall]

Washington cost you guys that game...

[Todd Gack]

Lol

[goreds2]

Free throw shooting...

" I do not believe what I just saw " (Bucks lose)

[kaldaniels]

After fading the bucks for 5 straight. I bet them in every game this past tourney. They covered fri sat and sun

I think oral Robert’s beats them straight up.

Give this man a raise.

[BuckeyeRed27]

Washington cost you guys that game...

Tough ending, but you live with everything there. Missing the 2 free throws is wild for him, I think he’s like 85%.

Sueing was pretty awful and he couldn’t be without Young. Also having to play Jallow a ton of minutes just crushed the offense. He’s a total liability on that end and they just sagged off and doubled Liddell.

None of that should have mattered though. They never matched their intensity and played very lazy for basically the entire game.

[Assembly Hall]

Tough ending, but you live with everything there. Missing the 2 free throws is wild for him, I think he’s like 85%.

Sueing was pretty awful and he couldn’t be without Young. Also having to play Jallow a ton of minutes just crushed the offense. He’s a total liability on that end and they just sagged off and doubled Liddell.

None of that should have mattered though. They never matched their intensity and played very lazy for basically the entire game.

Shot selection, free throws, and turnovers. And on a side note...thanks Bucks fans for screwing up my bracket!!!!

[BuckeyeRed27]

Shot selection, free throws, and turnovers. And on a side note...thanks Bucks fans for screwing up my bracket!!!!

I certainly didn’t like his shot at the end of regulation. He had a smaller guy on him, just go the the rim. But he is good at that step back, so it’s not inexplicable.

Then he misses a couple of contested shots, the aforementioned free throws and a wide open three at the buzzer. Sucks, but he’s also the guy you want taking all those shots.

[RedTeamGo!]

That’s what happens when you rely on a streaky player like Washington. If he’s hot you can beat any team in the country. If he’s cold, you can lose to any team in the country.

Kinda funny how stuff shakes out. Prior to the season this buckeyes team was expected to be like 8-10 seed type team. And they showed it today. Kyle Young was also a major loss. Been saying it for awhile: the heart, soul, and brain of this team.

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Also, I had a feeling the big ten was getting overhyped and it’s looking true.

[RedTeamGo!]

EJ Liddell posted some screenshots from DMs he received from “fans”

Truly disgusting stuff. These are kids. And even if they are 40 year old professionals, nobody deserves to be talked to like this for losing a game. This is just a kid playing amateur basketball, nothing serious is on the line. I have a feeling sports betting is behind reactions like this, and it’s a big part of the reason I think betting on amateur sports is kinda gross.

https://twitter.com/easye2432/status/1373134891420893184?s=21

[Assembly Hall]

EJ Liddell posted some screenshots from DMs he received from “fans”

Truly disgusting stuff. These are kids. And even if they are 40 year old professionals, nobody deserves to be talked to like this for losing a game. This is just a kid playing amateur basketball, nothing serious is on the line. I have a feeling sports betting is behind reactions like this, and it’s a big part of the reason I think betting on amateur sports is kinda gross.

https://twitter.com/easye2432/status/1373134891420893184?s=21

Although I tend to agree with you I did get a kick out your "amateur sports" reference.

[Todd Gack]

EJ Liddell posted some screenshots from DMs he received from “fans”

Truly disgusting stuff. These are kids. And even if they are 40 year old professionals, nobody deserves to be talked to like this for losing a game. This is just a kid playing amateur basketball, nothing serious is on the line. I have a feeling sports betting is behind reactions like this, and it’s a big part of the reason I think betting on amateur sports is kinda gross.

https://twitter.com/easye2432/status/1373134891420893184?s=21

I don’t know why anyone is surprised. This is the standard OSU fan to me. Very similar to Steelers fans.

[BuckeyeRed27]

I don’t know why anyone is surprised. This is the standard OSU fan to me. Very similar to Steelers fans.

Blah blah blah

All fan bases have fans that suck

[RedTeamGo!]

This is the standard OSU fan to me.

Well yeah, you’re an extremely biased OSU hater.

[*BaseClogger*]

Well yeah, you’re an extremely biased OSU hater.

Kind of just of a troll poster in general if you go thru their history