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Ron Madden
04-05-2021, 11:28 AM
Reds
1. Tyler Naquin (L) LF
2. Nick Castellanos (R) RF
3. Joey Votto (L) 1B
4. Eugenio Suarez (R) SS
5. Mike Moustakas (L) 3B
6. Nick Senzel (R) CF
7. Jonathan India (R) 2B
8. Tucker Barnhart (L) C
9. Jose De Leon (R) P

Pirates
1. Adam Frazier (L) 2B
2. Phillip Evans (R) 3B
3. Bryan Reynolds (S) LF
4. Colin Moran (L) 1B
5. Erik Gonzalez (R) SS
6. Gregory Polanco (L) RF
7. Jacob Stallings (R) C
8. Dustin Fowler (L) CF
9. JT Brubaker (R) P

757690
04-05-2021, 11:48 AM
The Reds scored 6 runs in game 1, 9 runs in game 2 and 12 runs in game 3.

That means they are going to score 15 runs in todayís game. Book it.

Mitri
04-05-2021, 12:10 PM
Any update on Da Wink?

klw
04-05-2021, 01:15 PM
The Reds scored 6 runs in game 1, 9 runs in game 2 and 12 runs in game 3.

That means they are going to score 15 runs in today’s game. Book it.

I look forward to them scoring 489 runs in game 162 but the game may take awhile to finish.

madeirawood
04-05-2021, 01:25 PM
Gonna have to score 10+ runs tonight. De Leon has pitched 29.2 innings in his career and given up 34 runs, 28 of them earned. I have never heard of such stats.

JaxRed
04-05-2021, 02:30 PM
In early results, Stephenson is hitting .500 against righties, Tucker is hitting .250

Mitri
04-05-2021, 02:37 PM
In early results, Stephenson is hitting .500 against righties, Tucker is hitting .250

I am fine with them easing Tyler in. First full season, he needs to watch as much as play and hopefully, the game will begin to slow down. If Tucker starts slumping I think we'll see him more, otherwise it will be a 50-50 share.

Stephenson looked very composed yesterday, I wasn't all that impressed with his approach last season despite the big hits he had. I feel like his bat may finally translate to the bigs.

Ron Madden
04-05-2021, 02:50 PM
The Pirates lineup has been added to the original post

RedsBrick
04-05-2021, 02:52 PM
I am fine with them easing Tyler in. First full season, he needs to watch as much as play and hopefully, the game will begin to slow down. If Tucker starts slumping I think we'll see him more, otherwise it will be a 50-50 share.

Stephenson looked very composed yesterday, I wasn't all that impressed with his approach last season despite the big hits he had. I feel like his bat may finally translate to the bigs.

Honest question: Do we know if the game is too fast for him? If memory serves me, he did ok for himself when given the chance last season.

Mitri
04-05-2021, 03:22 PM
Honest question: Do we know if the game is too fast for him? If memory serves me, he did ok for himself when given the chance last season.

I found the 45% K rate a bit concerning (9 times in 20 PAs). Small sample size, and it wasn't an issue in the minors for him, but I'd like to see him keep it below 25% in the bigs.

Ironman92
04-05-2021, 03:29 PM
Go Reds

KeefeCato
04-05-2021, 04:04 PM
Any update on Da Wink?

Bell said non covid just the Flu.

KeefeCato
04-05-2021, 04:06 PM
Gonna have to score 10+ runs tonight. De Leon has pitched 29.2 innings in his career and given up 34 runs, 28 of them earned. I have never heard of such stats.

Not saying De Leon he will ever come close to his career, but Mario Soto's career started out very similar.

KeefeCato
04-05-2021, 04:08 PM
The Pirates lineup has been added to the original post

Saw where Hayes hit the IL yesterday for the Pirates. Charlie's son looks like he is going to be a star. I was looking forward to watching him play this series. Now if he plays the next series against the Reds and burns them. I will feel different.

JaxRed
04-05-2021, 04:11 PM
In early results, Stephenson is hitting .500 against righties, Tucker is hitting .250

In early results Stephenson striking out 14.28%. Tucker striking out 40%.

Of course we're in the part of the season where one game's stats could swing things wildly. Because Tucker has a homer both guys are over 1.000 OPS

Ron Madden
04-05-2021, 04:15 PM
Bobby Nightengale
@nightengalejr
David Bell said he's not concerned that Jesse Winker will be out long-term. It was flu-like symptoms, not COVID-related.

NebraskaRed
04-05-2021, 04:58 PM
This made me wonder about the Reds players getting vaccinated. Other teams have announced that they're working towards that 85% threshold but I haven't seen anything about it from the Reds.

Anyway, Winker's flu-like symptoms just made me wonder if it was a reaction to the vaccine.

DocRed
04-05-2021, 05:31 PM
This made me wonder about the Reds players getting vaccinated. Other teams have announced that they're working towards that 85% threshold but I haven't seen anything about it from the Reds.

Anyway, Winker's flu-like symptoms just made me wonder if it was a reaction to the vaccine.

With Ohio vaccine open to the public for a week now and the Cards getting it in Ohio so easy I would hope so...

JaxRed
04-05-2021, 05:46 PM
I don't mind us missing K'Bryan Hayes

Mitri
04-05-2021, 06:04 PM
This made me wonder about the Reds players getting vaccinated. Other teams have announced that they're working towards that 85% threshold but I haven't seen anything about it from the Reds.

Anyway, Winker's flu-like symptoms just made me wonder if it was a reaction to the vaccine.

Probably, yeah. I haven't heard of anyone getting the regular old flu in about a year. I have heard that the second dose can do some damage to people of all ages and body types.

HammerTime
04-05-2021, 06:20 PM
This made me wonder about the Reds players getting vaccinated. Other teams have announced that they're working towards that 85% threshold but I haven't seen anything about it from the Reds.

Anyway, Winker's flu-like symptoms just made me wonder if it was a reaction to the vaccine.

Garrett got his a few days ago so I’d assume a good amount of them did as well.

JFLegal
04-05-2021, 06:45 PM
pirates' AAA player takes our AAA pitcher deep.

NebraskaRed
04-05-2021, 06:45 PM
Barnhart knew that was gone immediately.

Tom Servo
04-05-2021, 06:45 PM
1-0 bad guys

JFLegal
04-05-2021, 06:46 PM
i'm already done with de leon.

done leon.

Tom Servo
04-05-2021, 06:46 PM
Would have thought Moran would be the Pirate to go deep early, he absolutely feasts on Reds RH pitching.

Ah and there it is.

RedseatHR
04-05-2021, 06:47 PM
Get well soon Sonny!


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757690
04-05-2021, 06:47 PM
OUT
HR
OUT
HR
OUT

Not a optimal pattern.

Playadlc
04-05-2021, 06:47 PM
Just no movement on that pitch.

Tom Servo
04-05-2021, 06:47 PM
That’s the 7th HR for Moran in GABP, this is just the 24th game he’s playing here.

TheBigLebowski
04-05-2021, 06:47 PM
I have no idea why he’s here. The guy is a batting tee.

757690
04-05-2021, 06:47 PM
Suarez makes a play at SS.

Always a good sign.

NebraskaRed
04-05-2021, 06:48 PM
OUT
HR
OUT
HR

Not a optimal pattern.

Yeah, but it guarantees only 2 runs per inning #Silverlining

NCReds
04-05-2021, 06:48 PM
So about 70-80% of his first 12 pitches have been fastballs right down the pipe? No wonder they hit 2 bombs

ochoa30
04-05-2021, 06:48 PM
2 absolute meatballs there. Just awful pitches from someone who’s stuff is way too good for that.

NCReds
04-05-2021, 06:48 PM
So about 70-80% of his first 12 pitches have been fastballs right down the pipe? No wonder they hit 2 bombs.

Tom Servo
04-05-2021, 06:49 PM
So about 70-80% of his first 12 pitches have been fastballs right down the pipe? No wonder they hit 2 bombs.
The HRs were both on cement mixer breaking pitches

mhs95_06
04-05-2021, 06:49 PM
K on 3 pitches, then to the 2nd batter the pitch a change-up, middle in for a HR, then a pop out to India, then the 4th batter, lefty Moran, gets a slider in lower in quadrant, the lefty's favorite place and HRs to RF, and its 2-0 after a half.

757690
04-05-2021, 06:50 PM
Please, no to The Red Sparrow

JFLegal
04-05-2021, 06:51 PM
Please, no to The Red Sparrow

all hail THE RED SPARROW

RedTeamGo!
04-05-2021, 06:51 PM
I still don’t understand what folks see in De Leon. All he does is give up a bunch of runs.

NebraskaRed
04-05-2021, 06:51 PM
Please, no to The Red Sparrow

https://compote.slate.com/images/e5e29239-a786-431d-b285-3e4640f6c20b.png

JFLegal
04-05-2021, 06:51 PM
Red Sparrow could be the Game Thread version of GOP/Dems on the political board. ;)

RedTeamGo!
04-05-2021, 06:52 PM
I have no idea why he’s here. The guy is a batting tee.

Because Gray and Lorenzen are hurt. But yeah, not great Bob.

mhs95_06
04-05-2021, 06:52 PM
Yeah, but it guarantees only 2 runs per inning #Silverlining

Follow the pattern out and its 3 HRs in the 2nd!

RedTeamGo!
04-05-2021, 06:52 PM
Can someone explain to me the origin of Red Sparrow and what it means?

Tom Servo
04-05-2021, 06:53 PM
Can someone explain to me the origin of Red Sparrow and what it means?
They’re comparing Indian to Captain Jack Sparrow. It’s a little tortured.

JFLegal
04-05-2021, 06:53 PM
massive mancrush on castellanos here.

757690
04-05-2021, 06:54 PM
Can someone explain to me the origin of Red Sparrow and what it means?

The announcing crew wanted to come up with a nickname for India, based on that fact that he looks like Jack Sparrow. This is what Jim Day came up with.

JFLegal
04-05-2021, 06:54 PM
They’re comparing Indian to Captain Jack Sparrow. It’s a little tortured.

Please use Native American in future posts.

NebraskaRed
04-05-2021, 06:55 PM
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/510GT3WoA1L._SY445_.jpg

JFLegal
04-05-2021, 06:55 PM
that ball right down the middle to votto with 2 strikes was not to his liking.

RedTeamGo!
04-05-2021, 06:55 PM
They’re comparing Indian to Captain Jack Sparrow. It’s a little tortured.

Oh good grief. Yeah, hard pass.

Those movies are awful.

Ron Gant
04-05-2021, 06:56 PM
Okay, why exactly is Votto still batting third?

JFLegal
04-05-2021, 06:57 PM
just remember, it's not de leon's fault he's starting tonight. it's the front office's fault.

#rostermalpractice

Tom Servo
04-05-2021, 06:57 PM
just remember, it's not de leon's fault he's starting tonight. it's the front office's fault.

#rostermalpractice
Most teams don’t have starting pitching 8-9 men deep.

RedTeamGo!
04-05-2021, 06:58 PM
just remember, it's not de leon's fault he's starting tonight. it's the front office's fault.

#rostermalpractice

I mean, he wouldn’t have made the opening day roster if Gray and Lorenzen were healthy. Why are folks continuing to ignore they are coming back in like days?

JFLegal
04-05-2021, 06:58 PM
Oh good grief. Yeah, hard pass.

Those movies are awful.

it's because india not only looks like jack sparrow, but those are his favorite movies and one of the songs from the movies is his walk-up song. do i like pirates of the caribbean? nope. but there is your context.

NebraskaRed
04-05-2021, 06:58 PM
I mean, he wouldn’t have made the opening day roster if Gray and Lorenzen were healthy. Why are folks continuing to ignore they are coming back in like days?

Lorenzen isn't coming back as quickly as people might think.

RedTeamGo!
04-05-2021, 06:59 PM
If De Leon gets absolutely crushed today you gotta give Antone his next start, though.

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Lorenzen isn't coming back as quickly as people might think.

Ok, Gray though. I think Hoffman was getting a roster spot over De Leon. Kyle Boddy be damned.

JFLegal
04-05-2021, 06:59 PM
Most teams don’t have starting pitching 8-9 men deep.

you really think there shouldn't be a better option than de leon, even with gray and lorenzen out? and even counting on lorenzen as a member of the starting rotation was a stretch, IMO.

RedTeamGo!
04-05-2021, 07:00 PM
it's because india not only looks like jack sparrow, but those are his favorite movies and one of the songs from the movies is his walk-up song. do i like pirates of the caribbean? nope. but there is your context.

Oof, quickly losing respect in India haha

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you really think there shouldn't be a better option than de leon, even with gray and lorenzen out? and even counting on lorenzen as a member of the starting rotation was a stretch, IMO.

If one of those two had like season ending injuries I think Antone gets the spot.

JFLegal
04-05-2021, 07:01 PM
Oof, quickly losing respect in India haha

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If one of those two had like season ending injuries I think Antone gets the spot.

ha, he's a youngie so i'll give him a pass on thinking those are good movies.

but damn, he definitely looks like johnny depp/jack sparrow. zero problems with the ladies i'm sure.

mhs95_06
04-05-2021, 07:03 PM
DeLeon must have had some real stuff on that pitch that hit the dirt in front of the plate, as both the hitter and the umpire immediately reached for their eyes like something got in them!

757690
04-05-2021, 07:06 PM
K
K
FO

Much improved pattern

JFLegal
04-05-2021, 07:08 PM
K
K
FO

Much improved pattern

what's improved is your avatar. love it.

NebraskaRed
04-05-2021, 07:13 PM
Looks safe

50YrRedsFan
04-05-2021, 07:14 PM
Votto, Suarez, and Moose having trouble getting going.

Bob Sheed
04-05-2021, 07:14 PM
What did the Reds do to MLB umpires to make them hate us so much?

Playadlc
04-05-2021, 07:14 PM
Safe. But I bet it’s ruled inconclusive.

Bob Sheed
04-05-2021, 07:15 PM
whewwwww...

JFLegal
04-05-2021, 07:15 PM
way to freakin go senzel.

REDREAD
04-05-2021, 07:15 PM
Oh good grief. Yeah, hard pass.

Those movies are awful.

yea, the first one was ok.. the rest? Typical Disney milking a mediocre movie to death with too many sequels. I read an interview with one of the writers. Said that Disney gave them no time to adequately write the sequels, that's why they sucked.

OldRightHander
04-05-2021, 07:15 PM
Looks safe to me, but who am I?

Playadlc
04-05-2021, 07:15 PM
I love Senzel’s energy.

NebraskaRed
04-05-2021, 07:17 PM
Barnhart...

ochoa30
04-05-2021, 07:17 PM
What an absolutely atrocious AB.

OldRightHander
04-05-2021, 07:18 PM
Cue Marty’s “couldn’t hit that with an ironing board” comment.

NC Reds
04-05-2021, 07:18 PM
Tucker avoids the double play I figured he would hit into.

REDREAD
04-05-2021, 07:18 PM
great job of SEnzel to hustle and run the bases well, even if the call is not overturned

JFLegal
04-05-2021, 07:19 PM
how bout that!

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he hits better than he pitches. ;)

ochoa30
04-05-2021, 07:20 PM
No way, lol. Awesome!

OldRightHander
04-05-2021, 07:20 PM
Way to help yourself there.

BCubb2003
04-05-2021, 07:20 PM
“If you’re swinging, you’re dangerous.”

NebraskaRed
04-05-2021, 07:20 PM
Listen, when De Leon does a better job at the plate than you do, it's time to stop getting the majority of the starts.

Bob Sheed
04-05-2021, 07:20 PM
Maybe DeLeon can give Tucker some batting tips?

membengal
04-05-2021, 07:21 PM
That is so absolutely awesome on every level. So happy for him.

JFLegal
04-05-2021, 07:21 PM
oh, that's cool. he has so many family in the stands you can hear them loud and clear. good for de leon.

757690
04-05-2021, 07:21 PM
Somewhere Joe Nuxhall is smiling

JFLegal
04-05-2021, 07:21 PM
“If you’re swinging, you’re dangerous.”

"if you swing the bat, you're dangerous."

RiverRat13
04-05-2021, 07:22 PM
Two days in a row where Senzel's speed was the difference in a bang bang play.

Playadlc
04-05-2021, 07:24 PM
40 pitches through two for Brubaker.

Bob Sheed
04-05-2021, 07:24 PM
Two days in a row where Senzel's speed was the difference in a bang bang play.

Same with India.

It's early but Senzel India as 1 and 2 seems to make more and more sense to me.

KeefeCato
04-05-2021, 07:25 PM
Somewhere Joe Nuxhall is smiling

Joe is watching from the old ball orchard.

50YrRedsFan
04-05-2021, 07:25 PM
Sadak gets overly excited quickly.

OldRightHander
04-05-2021, 07:26 PM
Joe is watching from the old ball orchard.

And is still trying to figure out how to pronounce Jose’s name.

OldRightHander
04-05-2021, 07:28 PM
Both starters with a first career hit in the same game. I wonder when the last time that happened was?

Bob Sheed
04-05-2021, 07:30 PM
Jesus Christ we need a shortstop.

50YrRedsFan
04-05-2021, 07:30 PM
oops..looked llike Votto threw a change up and Suarez mistimed the catch.

Ironman92
04-05-2021, 07:30 PM
Suarez was lazy on that and thereís another error

Reds Fanatic
04-05-2021, 07:30 PM
I donít see how Suarez lasts at short all year. This defense is a nightmare

ochoa30
04-05-2021, 07:30 PM
Clearly mental

Bob Sheed
04-05-2021, 07:31 PM
Clearly mental

Also bad technique, to hear Larkin tell it.

Roy Tucker
04-05-2021, 07:31 PM
Yeah, it’s in his head now.

757690
04-05-2021, 07:32 PM
To point out how important errors are, the Reds went from two outs, no one on, to two on, no one out because of that error.

Red Raindog
04-05-2021, 07:32 PM
This play at shortstop is wearing me out. I canít imagine what the pitchers are thinking.


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mhs95_06
04-05-2021, 07:33 PM
Two of Suarez' errors this season look to have cost both outs of a DP and are likely to be a major reason a first game of an in divison series was lost!

Sea Ray
04-05-2021, 07:33 PM
This is the worst SS play I've ever seen in the major leagues but we gotta live with it for now

757690
04-05-2021, 07:33 PM
Also bad technique, to hear Larkin tell it.

It’s the same technique problem he’s had since he moved to SS. Transferring the ball to throw it.

OldRightHander
04-05-2021, 07:33 PM
That was filthy.

RedTeamGo!
04-05-2021, 07:34 PM
Yeah, it’s in his head now.

That and the fact he’s never been good defensively at short and is even worse now.

The reds need to get a SS immediately. You simply cannot have such a black hole defensively at such an important position. You just can’t. It already cost the Reds one game, will it cost them another today?

Reds Fanatic
04-05-2021, 07:35 PM
5 Ks for De Leon

TheBigLebowski
04-05-2021, 07:35 PM
There’s no way this experiment continues. He’s the SS equivalent of the hindenburg

Sea Ray
04-05-2021, 07:36 PM
To point out how important errors are, the Reds went from two outs, no one on, to two on, no one out because of that error.

I don't think we can count on a DP on that but maybe

Coming into this game, Suarez had a .778 fielding percentage. yeah, he's booting one out of every 4 chances

Bob Sheed
04-05-2021, 07:36 PM
Any play that Suarez and Votto are involved in seems to have a pretty high chance of going south.

membengal
04-05-2021, 07:37 PM
DeLeon really would be doing work to pick up Suarez.

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There’s no way this experiment continues. He’s the SS equivalent of the hindenburg

Where is India playing, then? If Suarez at SS doesn't work?

Reds Fanatic
04-05-2021, 07:38 PM
Wow.6 Ks

membengal
04-05-2021, 07:38 PM
That was a GREAT job by DeLeon. Wow. Some fantastic pitches in that 3-batter sequence.

Bob Sheed
04-05-2021, 07:38 PM
"el jefe gets the k" :lol:

mhs95_06
04-05-2021, 07:38 PM
DeLeon, like an ace, picks up his infield's bad play!

NebraskaRed
04-05-2021, 07:38 PM
Suarez owes De Leon a Coke

membengal
04-05-2021, 07:38 PM
Happily, was not here for inning one so I am sure i missed some DeLeon slander, but he looks like he belongs to me.

Roy Tucker
04-05-2021, 07:38 PM
DeLeon is rather pear-shaped. Not a classic athletic build.

RiverRat13
04-05-2021, 07:38 PM
De Leon wisely either striking everyone out or giving up home runs with this defense behind him.

OldRightHander
04-05-2021, 07:39 PM
SS can’t make an error if the batter can’t hit it.

Joeyjection19
04-05-2021, 07:39 PM
The booth has improved every single game.

TheBigLebowski
04-05-2021, 07:40 PM
Happy for him with his family in attendance. Freaking RBI and maybe a W.

But Suarez. That’s an experiment that has to end

mhs95_06
04-05-2021, 07:40 PM
I don't think we can count on a DP on that but maybe

Coming into this game, Suarez had a .778 fielding percentage. yeah, he's booting one out of every 4 chances

He's also had some poor throws that could have gone for errors.

NebraskaRed
04-05-2021, 07:40 PM
The booth has improved every single game.

Larkin has definitely improved.

I like Sadak but the excitement is still a bit much some times.

Roy Tucker
04-05-2021, 07:41 PM
My channel guide still says FSOHD.

Bob Sheed
04-05-2021, 07:42 PM
Suarez will make it up to DeLeon, I bet.

NebraskaRed
04-05-2021, 07:42 PM
Calling Krall the "wizard behind the curtain" is not the compliment that Sadak intended.

RedTeamGo!
04-05-2021, 07:42 PM
DeLeon really would be doing work to pick up Suarez.

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Where is India playing, then? If Suarez at SS doesn't work?

Two options:

1. Bench Votto, move Suarez or Moose to 1B, India stays at 2B, acquire a competent defensive SS.

2. Trade Suarez for a SS and prospects. India stays at 2B.

TheBigLebowski
04-05-2021, 07:42 PM
DeLeon really would be doing work to pick up Suarez.

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Where is India playing, then? If Suarez at SS doesn't work?

Time for these baseball people to earn their money. Be creative. Strike a trade. They have to do something. This team can’t with Eddie Scissorhands at SS.

BCubb2003
04-05-2021, 07:44 PM
Interesting how Larkin just kept the professional announcer on track during his rambling suitcase story.

ochoa30
04-05-2021, 07:44 PM
Need Votto to get going

Stray
04-05-2021, 07:44 PM
I don't think Cast has had a bad at bat this season

RedsfaninMT
04-05-2021, 07:44 PM
Two options:

1. Bench Votto, move Suarez or Moose to 1B, India stays at 2B, acquire a competent defensive SS.

2. Trade Suarez for a SS and prospects. India stays at 2B.

Or trade Moose, move Eugenio back to 3rd, trade for a ss.

WVRedsFan
04-05-2021, 07:45 PM
My channel guide still says FSOHD.

Mine says BSCINHD

membengal
04-05-2021, 07:45 PM
I like Sadak. A lot.

ochoa30
04-05-2021, 07:45 PM
Nice play

Roy Tucker
04-05-2021, 07:46 PM
Their 3B plays SS better than our SS.

RedTeamGo!
04-05-2021, 07:46 PM
Or trade Moose, move Eugenio back to 3rd, trade for a ss.

I think Suarez could be traded for a solid SS and prospects. I do not think Moose could be. But yeah, that’s another option I suppose.

TheBigLebowski
04-05-2021, 07:47 PM
Two options:

1. Bench Votto, move Suarez or Moose to 1B, India stays at 2B, acquire a competent defensive SS.

2. Trade Suarez for a SS and prospects. India stays at 2B.

Thereís a lot of options. They created this problem with their offseason shenanigans. This is why we have them.

RedTeamGo!
04-05-2021, 07:47 PM
Their 3B plays SS better than our 3B plays SS.

FTFY

TheBigLebowski
04-05-2021, 07:49 PM
Suarez will make it up to DeLeon, I bet.

Unless heís stuffing some cash into his bag, he didnít. It was an impressive can of corn, but thatís not exactly indemnification

Tom Servo
04-05-2021, 07:50 PM
Two options:

1. Bench Votto, move Suarez or Moose to 1B, India stays at 2B, acquire a competent defensive SS.

2. Trade Suarez for a SS and prospects. India stays at 2B.
Bold move would be doing both of these, and I think you'd have to consider it depending on how things look around July 31st or so.

Sea Ray
04-05-2021, 07:50 PM
The booth has improved every single game.

I miss Marty. I know he's not a TV guy but wouldn't you like to hear what he'd have to say about Suarez play at SS? Our announcers are giving him a pass. I'm not even so sure Thom and Chris would still be giving him a pass

Bob Sheed
04-05-2021, 07:52 PM
Calling Krall a "wizard" for this hack job roster of 3rd basermen he assembled tells you all you need to know.

Roy Tucker
04-05-2021, 07:52 PM
FTFY

That’s what was in my head. Didn’t make it out to my fingers.

mhs95_06
04-05-2021, 07:55 PM
Or trade Moose, move Eugenio back to 3rd, trade for a ss.

Or trade Moose and Votto, along with $40 million for a SS and a couple athletic hitting prospects. And can put Senzel in the deal too.

TheBigLebowski
04-05-2021, 07:55 PM
Nick really ran into that one. Boo.

NebraskaRed
04-05-2021, 07:58 PM
Very nice inning by De Leon

Bob Sheed
04-05-2021, 07:58 PM
I'd rather hear crowd ambiance than stories about ammonia water.

ochoa30
04-05-2021, 07:59 PM
Nice little 5 pitch inning!

Roy Tucker
04-05-2021, 07:59 PM
Not buying the aluminum foil in the shoes thing.

757690
04-05-2021, 07:59 PM
The boldest move is to trade Votto and eat a big chunk of his salary.

He’s a valuable player at around $10M a year. The Reds pay for around $50M of the $82M remaining and many AL teams would bite.

Then move Suarez to 1B.

Roy Tucker
04-05-2021, 08:00 PM
I'd rather hear crowd ambiance than stories about ammonia water.

Yeah. They are both trying too hard. Not everything that happens in baseball is exciting.

TheBigLebowski
04-05-2021, 08:06 PM
India hasn’t hit a ball very hard since the 1st game. There is no bigger India fan than me, and even I know he’s going to have to start hitting, especially while Suarez is over at SS chasing fireflies.

RedTeamGo!
04-05-2021, 08:06 PM
The boldest move is to trade Votto and eat a big chunk of his salary.

He’s a valuable player at around $10M a year. The Reds pay for around $50M of the $82M remaining and many AL teams would bite.

Then move Suarez to 1B.

Votto has a full NTC

RedsfaninMT
04-05-2021, 08:06 PM
The boldest move is to trade Votto and eat a big chunk of his salary.

He’s a valuable player at around $10M a year. The Reds pay for around $50M of the $82M remaining and many AL teams would bite.

Then move Suarez to 1B.

How do you spell "no trade clause?"

RedTeamGo!
04-05-2021, 08:07 PM
India hasn’t hit a ball very hard since the 1st game. There is no bigger India fan than me, and even I know he’s going to have to start hitting, especially while Suarez is over at SS chasing fireflies.

Lol it’s game 4, man,

VR
04-05-2021, 08:07 PM
Obviously nice to see DeLeon come back after that start, also nice to see he is doing it on 14 pitches an inning. Brubaker, on the other hand, is not long for this game.

Stray
04-05-2021, 08:08 PM
Weird pitch choice for 3-2 with Cast on deck.

757690
04-05-2021, 08:10 PM
Votto has a full NTC

So did Arenado

Many players with full NTC get traded.

membengal
04-05-2021, 08:12 PM
So...DeLeon looks damn good, all.

TheBigLebowski
04-05-2021, 08:12 PM
Lol it’s game 4, man,

Yes. Thanks.

India’s not a proven commodity, and thus won’t have as much chain as established guys. If they decide to do something abiut Suarez, right now, he’d be the victim. Unless it was Suarez or Moose dealt.

BCubb2003
04-05-2021, 08:13 PM
Tucker seems to be doing an excellent job of framing the low pitches.

RedTeamGo!
04-05-2021, 08:14 PM
Yes. Thanks.

India’s not a proven commodity, and thus won’t have as much chain as established guys. If they decide to do something abiut Suarez, right now, he’d be the victim. Unless it was Suarez or Moose dealt.

I have probably been the most outspoken critic of India for like 2 years. I agree he isn’t proven. Just sayin. It’s game 4.

VR
04-05-2021, 08:14 PM
Tucker seems to be doing an excellent job of framing the low pitches.

Good to hear. Generally not a great trait of his.

membengal
04-05-2021, 08:15 PM
Um. I mean, he's flat dealing.

RedTeamGo!
04-05-2021, 08:15 PM
So did Arenado

Many players with full NTC get traded.

Yeah, Arenado was demanding to be traded out of Colorado and was very outspoken about how unhappy he was there. Votto loves Cincinnati and has said, repeatedly, he wants to spend his entire career here.

You are comparing apples and bowling balls.

Oh yeah, and also Arenado is elite and in his prime. Votto is one of the worst starting 1Bs in baseball. Nobody would even want him.

podgejeff_
04-05-2021, 08:16 PM
At this point I'm just ready to give Boddy and Johnson the benefit of the doubt when they want a post-hype prospect.

JaxRed
04-05-2021, 08:16 PM
Guys no one is trading for Votto

RedsfaninMT
04-05-2021, 08:16 PM
I've often heard you gotta get to an ace before he gets in a groove.

TheBigLebowski
04-05-2021, 08:18 PM
I have probably been the most outspoken critic of India for like 2 years. I agree he isn’t proven. Just sayin. It’s game 4.

It is early, and I know he’ll hit. I just fear he’ll be the odd man out if they pull the plug on Suarez at SS if he starts to put together a few consecutive games without some knocks.

757690
04-05-2021, 08:18 PM
Yeah, Arenado was demanding to be traded out of Colorado and was very outspoken about how unhappy he was there. Votto loves Cincinnati and has said, repeatedly, he wants to spend his entire career here.

You are comparing apples and bowling balls.

Ask Votto, do you want to sit on the bench in Cincinnati or start in XXXX? He probably demands the Reds pick up his final year option, but I can’t see him wanting to ride the bench for the final years of his career.

mhs95_06
04-05-2021, 08:19 PM
Tucker seems to be doing an excellent job of framing the low pitches.

Can't wait for robot called strikes so this framing talk disappears and catchers can concentrate on catching the ball in position to not let the ball get away, and to make a throw.

Roy Tucker
04-05-2021, 08:20 PM
DeLeon has got stuff.

membengal
04-05-2021, 08:20 PM
Um. DEALING.

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DeLeon has got stuff.

Thanks. I feel like I am the only in this thread who has noticed.

RedsfaninMT
04-05-2021, 08:20 PM
Time to get him a "W!"

RedseatHR
04-05-2021, 08:21 PM
De Leon redemption tour continues


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ochoa30
04-05-2021, 08:21 PM
Great job! Let’s get some runs!

OldRightHander
04-05-2021, 08:21 PM
He’s dealing tonight. Need to get him a couple runs now.

757690
04-05-2021, 08:21 PM
Guys no one is trading for Votto

He put up a 116 wRC+ last year. He’s not toast. The only question is how much should he get paid?

The Operator
04-05-2021, 08:21 PM
So is this just early season randomness or are The Reds actually getting good at finding pitchers on the cheap?

UPRedsFan
04-05-2021, 08:22 PM
What is happening? First Hoffman, now DeLeon. He looks great

TheBigLebowski
04-05-2021, 08:23 PM
DeLeon sure can look the part sometimes. And then the next time out he’ll get shelled.

Maybe the driveline boys can harness that weird sorcery of spin they practice..the pagans.

My guess is that his delivery is too herky jerky to replicate each start.

Patrick Bateman
04-05-2021, 08:23 PM
So is this just early season randomness or are The Reds actually getting good at finding pitchers on the cheap?

Definitely donít recall a time that we would have a rando come out and pump 9 kís in 5 innings.

Pirates make it an asteriks but itís encouraging what our development team and decision making team is doing in this area.


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podgejeff_
04-05-2021, 08:24 PM
Um. DEALING.

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Thanks. I feel like I am the only in this thread who has noticed.

I'm late to the game but I've absolutely noticed.

If Hoffman and De Leon are performing closer to some kind of new average for them we're in for a fun season.

podgejeff_
04-05-2021, 08:27 PM
He was feeling that one.

Moose is due.

membengal
04-05-2021, 08:27 PM
Moose!

OldRightHander
04-05-2021, 08:27 PM
Boom!

The Operator
04-05-2021, 08:28 PM
Moooose!


Tie game!!!

Reds Fanatic
04-05-2021, 08:28 PM
Moose!!

podgejeff_
04-05-2021, 08:28 PM
https://media4.giphy.com/media/PjOHE76srQkzWbRN7Y/giphy-downsized-large.gif

Roy Tucker
04-05-2021, 08:28 PM
Nice to hear a crowd roar.

TheBigLebowski
04-05-2021, 08:28 PM
MOOOOOSIE

The Operator
04-05-2021, 08:28 PM
Lol Barry... who isn’t a fastball hitter?

membengal
04-05-2021, 08:28 PM
Also, the Sadak story about calling games for the Royals A ball team that had all the future big leaguers on it and that Moose was the one who would put on the best BP show was ridiculously well-timed...

OldRightHander
04-05-2021, 08:28 PM
That ball was hit kind of hard.

WVRedsFan
04-05-2021, 08:29 PM
Moose got loose!! Towering,

WrongVerb
04-05-2021, 08:29 PM
MOOOOOOOOSSSSSSEEEEEEEe!!!!!!

Hit at 110MPH
Went estimated 430 feet.

membengal
04-05-2021, 08:29 PM
Lol Barry... who isn’t a fastball hitter?

(looks around)

(raises hand)

TheBigLebowski
04-05-2021, 08:30 PM
Sadak is a bit high strung but he’s an unbelievable upgrade from Thom. And I love Barry Larkin.

WrongVerb
04-05-2021, 08:30 PM
Also, the Sadak story about calling games for the Royals A ball team that had all the future big leaguers on it and that Moose was the one who would put on the best BP show was ridiculously well-timed...

Bet that makes someone's broadcaster highlight reel.

VR
04-05-2021, 08:31 PM
He put up a 116 wRC+ last year. Heís not toast. The only question is how much should he get paid?

I'd put money on him retiring before his contract is out before accepting a trade, unless it's a perfect deal with the Jays.

Falls City Beer
04-05-2021, 08:32 PM
When Moose gets a hold of one, he smokes it.

mhs95_06
04-05-2021, 08:34 PM
MOOOOOOOOSSSSSSEEEEEEEe!!!!!!

Hit at 110MPH
Went estimated 430 feet.

A little bit shy of the hardest and longest of the game! But, we'll take it.

Roy Tucker
04-05-2021, 08:34 PM
That’s a true statement about heading north up through the cut in the hill and the Cincinnati skyline emerges. When I did a lot of business travel and I’d be coming home from the airport, it was always a welcome sight.

OldRightHander
04-05-2021, 08:35 PM
With them talking about the view driving down the hill in KY, I have a recent story. I picked up a Lyft passenger recently and he had never been here before. We started down the hill and the guy whipped his phone out and started taking photos like crazy. I kind of take it for granted because I drive it so much.

membengal
04-05-2021, 08:35 PM
Good effort from DeLeon. Standing ovation from me.

Joeyjection19
04-05-2021, 08:36 PM
That’s a true statement about heading north up through the cut in the hill and the Cincinnati skyline emerges. When I did a lot of business travel and I’d be coming home from the airport, it was always a welcome sight.

This is the most beautiful view of Ohio and it comes while you're in Kentucky.

BCubb2003
04-05-2021, 08:36 PM
Can't wait for robot called strikes so this framing talk disappears and catchers can concentrate on catching the ball in position to not let the ball get away, and to make a throw.

I agree. It seems to normalize failure by the umpire. But if itís going to be part of the game, I guess you have to master it.

podgejeff_
04-05-2021, 08:37 PM
Good effort from DeLeon. Standing ovation from me.

That back of the rotation conversation remains interesting.

I have no idea who I'd pick.

BCubb2003
04-05-2021, 08:38 PM
This is the most beautiful view of Ohio and it comes while you're in Kentucky.

“Shinin' like a jewel in the valley below.”

Ironman92
04-05-2021, 08:39 PM
Letís go C N L

WrongVerb
04-05-2021, 08:39 PM
First time a Reds pitcher has faced a second team. Let's see if the advanced scouting has given the Pirates a chance. Lol

podgejeff_
04-05-2021, 08:39 PM
Perez is filthy.

Mitri
04-05-2021, 08:40 PM
My man!

WrongVerb
04-05-2021, 08:40 PM
Cionel Train!

OldRightHander
04-05-2021, 08:41 PM
This is the most beautiful view of Ohio and it comes while you're in Kentucky.

The best views of downtown are all from Kentucky. Devou Park comes to mind as well.

The Operator
04-05-2021, 08:42 PM
Thatís a true statement about heading north up through the cut in the hill and the Cincinnati skyline emerges. When I did a lot of business travel and Iíd be coming home from the airport, it was always a welcome sight.

When I was a grad student at UK and Mrs. Operator was still just my girlfriend, Iíd drive home from Lexington every Friday night and the cut in the hill and seeing the Cincinnati skyline always made me feel like I was home.

Beautiful sight.

podgejeff_
04-05-2021, 08:42 PM
Man that high heat gets on you fast.

membengal
04-05-2021, 08:42 PM
i cannot express enough my happiness at seeing the excitement and joy from the pitchers when they make a pitch. Reminds me of young Dibble.

The Operator
04-05-2021, 08:43 PM
This Reds staff can definitely bring the heat.

OldRightHander
04-05-2021, 08:43 PM
Pizza

TheBigLebowski
04-05-2021, 08:43 PM
Cionel Perez is the most dominant pitcher ALIVE

membengal
04-05-2021, 08:43 PM
Deeper cut. Recalls Brad "the Animal" Lesley.

podgejeff_
04-05-2021, 08:44 PM
Pshhh.

Show them up and if they get you back take the L.

membengal
04-05-2021, 08:44 PM
This Reds staff can definitely bring the heat.

It is just such a welcome development.

Barry, give it a rest. Excitement is cool and we don't need to apologize for it.

757690
04-05-2021, 08:44 PM
Tucker, a man and his arm.

podgejeff_
04-05-2021, 08:44 PM
That was the most perfect throw em out I think I've ever seen. They had him by a mile.

Get em Tucker.

NebraskaRed
04-05-2021, 08:45 PM
Nicely done, Tucker.

TheBigLebowski
04-05-2021, 08:45 PM
YESSIR

Perez and Tucker. Beautiful

OldRightHander
04-05-2021, 08:45 PM
Sweet. Now that’s a DP.

The Operator
04-05-2021, 08:46 PM
It is just such a welcome development.

Barry, give it a rest. Excitement is cool and we don't need to apologize for it.

Yea, this whole “celebrate but only in a positive way without hurting someone’s feelings” meme is gonna get old really fast.

membengal
04-05-2021, 08:47 PM
Yea, this whole “celebrate but only in a positive way without hurting someone’s feelings” meme is gonna get old really fast.

You know who didn't give a flying eff about whose feelings they hurt? Barry's teammates, Dibs and Charlton and Myers.

mhs95_06
04-05-2021, 08:47 PM
Sweet. Now that’s a DP.

The swinging strike was only the 2nd strike!

NebraskaRed
04-05-2021, 08:48 PM
India hits a foul into the crowd.

Sadak: https://media.giphy.com/media/o75ajIFH0QnQC3nCeD/giphy.gif

The Operator
04-05-2021, 08:50 PM
You know who didn't give a flying eff about whose feelings they hurt? Barry's teammates, Dibs and Charlton and Myers.

Lol right... those Reds teams weren’t exactly known for their humility.

podgejeff_
04-05-2021, 08:51 PM
I do believe Barnhart is quite mad at the ump.

NebraskaRed
04-05-2021, 08:51 PM
Tucker did a great job throwing that runner out at the top of the inning.

But we all knew how that AB was going to end.

membengal
04-05-2021, 08:52 PM
Lol right... those Reds teams weren’t exactly known for their humility.

Indeed they were not. Weird watching Barry memory-hole that in real time.

TheBigLebowski
04-05-2021, 08:52 PM
Come on Stanford Cardinal Baseball

podgejeff_
04-05-2021, 08:53 PM
Between this message board and now John Sadak I'm starting to think Blandino should change his name to Alex Stanford Cardinal.

Patrick Bateman
04-05-2021, 08:54 PM
Indeed they were not. Weird watching Barry memory-hole that in real time.

Barry is the new Joe Morgan unfortunately.

Iím just going to enjoy heís still a part of our circle and not worry too much about what he says.


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Tom Servo
04-05-2021, 08:54 PM
Blandino does strike out looking a lot.

The Operator
04-05-2021, 08:54 PM
Blandino was mad but that looked like a strike to me.

NebraskaRed
04-05-2021, 08:54 PM
For Jim Day's sake, let's just be a little more careful who he does impressions of, and specifically how he does them.