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Ron Madden
04-11-2021, 11:37 AM
Reds
1. Tyler Naquin (L) LF
2. Nick Castellanos (R) RF
3. Joey Votto (L) 1B
4. Eugenio Suarez (R) SS
5. Mike Moustakas (L) 3B
6. Nick Senzel (R) CF
7. Kyle Farmer (R) 2B
8. Tyler Stephenson (R) C
9. Jose De Leon (R) P

D-backs
1. Tim Locastro (R) CF
2. Josh VanMeter (L) 2B
3. Christian Walker (R) 1B
4. David Peralta (L) LF
5. Eduardo Escobar (S) 3B
6. Pavin Smith (L) RF
7. Nick Ahmed (R) SS
8. Carson Kelly (R) C
9. Luke Weaver (R) P

texasdave
04-11-2021, 12:25 PM
No Arizona hitter has ever faced DeLeon (according to MLB.com). Hopefully, that works to his advantage big-time.

JaxRed
04-11-2021, 12:26 PM
Worried about scoring runs with that lineup. Cast who is super streaky appears to have cooled off. Farmer is 1-11, we have Votto in the lineup and still at #3..

podgejeff_
04-11-2021, 12:34 PM
Am I wrong in thinking that Farmer has received too much playing time this early in the season?

Bob Sheed
04-11-2021, 01:01 PM
Am I wrong in thinking that Farmer has received too much playing time this early in the season?

Well, he did get that one hit that one time. Gotta keep him fresh.

India's probably pretty tired anyway, having played 8 whole games in a row.

JFLegal
04-11-2021, 01:14 PM
Am I wrong in thinking that Farmer has received too much playing time this early in the season?

bell loves him. bell started him at shortstop in a playoff game. in real life.

NebraskaRed
04-11-2021, 01:23 PM
Breaking news: the getaway day lineup is a thing, even this early in the season.

JFLegal
04-11-2021, 01:24 PM
Breaking news: the getaway day lineup is a thing, even this early in the season.

yeah, it's no surprise. but i would also add it's not really a true getaway day lineup ... other than farmer.

because we already know tysteve is going to be starting every third game at catcher.

NebraskaRed
04-11-2021, 01:28 PM
yeah, it's no surprise. but i would also add it's not really a true getaway day lineup ... other than farmer.

because we already know tysteve is going to be starting every third game at catcher.

Sort of a kinda sorta getaway lineup.

Also, India was really trying too much last night. It might be a good idea for him to have the day off.

Wonderful Monds
04-11-2021, 01:39 PM
I am guessing India is sitting because of his bad inning last night. I actually don’t think that’s a bad thing for a rookie, to keep him out of his own head.

JFLegal
04-11-2021, 01:47 PM
Sort of a kinda sorta getaway lineup.

Also, India was really trying too much last night. It might be a good idea for him to have the day off.

yeah, i'm fine with it. it is funny how much bell loves farmer though. if not for bell, farmer might not have a job in MLB. then again, i do get his value to some degree. he's usually not a terrible hitter (been awful this year so far but very small sample) and it's hard to find a guy who can play SS and catcher competently. and other positions too like 2B of course. you could argue he's a solid utility guy, even on a good team.

but i believe the point was he probably plays too much and i agree with that.

Ron Madden
04-11-2021, 01:49 PM
The D-backs lineup has been added to the original post

NebraskaRed
04-11-2021, 01:57 PM
yeah, i'm fine with it. it is funny how much bell loves farmer though. if not for bell, farmer might not have a job in MLB. then again, i do get his value to some degree. he's usually not a terrible hitter (been awful this year so far but very small sample) and it's hard to find a guy who can play SS and catcher competently. and other positions too like 2B of course. you could argue he's a solid utility guy, even on a good team.

but i believe the point was he probably plays too much and i agree with that.

Yeah, my real question is, what does Alex Blandino have to do to get more playing time?

NebraskaRed
04-11-2021, 02:06 PM
Charlie Goldsmith
@CharlieG__

Bell on Jesse Winker: “Tough call not starting him today… We’re not 100 percent sure that today was the best thing to start.”

He’ll be fully available to come into the game and start tomorrow night, Bell said.

redswin
04-11-2021, 02:08 PM
Lets bring home a 3rd straight series win!

Mitri
04-11-2021, 02:09 PM
Farmer should be strictly SS back-up and pinch hitter. If they're going to sit India I would much rather they use Blandino, or bring on a lefty like Schrock.

I think I'd rather they had kept Holder and moved on from Farmer, but that would have cost an extra 500k.

Wonderful Monds
04-11-2021, 02:31 PM
I wouldn’t be surprised if they’re rewarding Farmer for being a team player and working hard on the shortstop thing only to get benched at the end of spring training. Especially when it’s splitting hairs between him and Blandino starting. They seem to like something about Farmer anyway.

KeefeCato
04-11-2021, 02:33 PM
I highly doubt India is sitting because of his bad inning last night.
Bell writes the lineup for a entire series at the beginning of each series. He only adjusts due to injury.
India knew Friday that he would be sitting today.
That is why the Reds lineup is always one of the first lineup out every day on the gambling sites.

0-2 Count
04-11-2021, 02:34 PM
Not sure I get all the hate for Farmer. He's a utility infielder. It's not uncommon for a utility infielder to have an OPS in the .650-.700 range, which is historically what Farmer has provided. What is uncommon is to have a utility infielder who can also serve as the team's 3rd catcher. That has value that can't be measured in all the fancy metrics.

Kc61
04-11-2021, 02:51 PM
The lineup is fine, no problem giving Farmer a start. Looking for a good start by DeLeon. He has good stuff, would like to see it all come together for him.

Alf_Red_E
04-11-2021, 03:06 PM
https://www.sports360az.com/2021/03/luke-weaver-continuing-to-fight-develop-through-bumpy-spring-training/

Today looks winnable

davereds24
04-11-2021, 03:10 PM
Pretty sure Farmer had one of the best averages on the team last year, why is he getting so much hate? The power wasn't there but that's not really a big deal for a utility guy in this lineup.

Mitri
04-11-2021, 03:14 PM
LOL. It's fine, I've said my peace re: Farmer. I think there are better options out there. Reds can reward his cool personality and hard work all they want, but at some point his career 69 OPS+ may need to be upgraded.

RedTeamGo!
04-11-2021, 03:32 PM
https://www.sports360az.com/2021/03/luke-weaver-continuing-to-fight-develop-through-bumpy-spring-training/

Today looks winnable

The kiss of death

NebraskaRed
04-11-2021, 03:34 PM
The kiss of death

I didn't want to be the one who said it, but...yeah.

Alf_Red_E
04-11-2021, 03:46 PM
"winnable" is not very far out on a limb.

JaxRed
04-11-2021, 03:56 PM
Reds need to be goldfish.

RedTeamGo!
04-11-2021, 04:04 PM
Reds need to be goldfish.

https://tv-fanatic-res.cloudinary.com/iu/s--978XB3Hj--/t_full/cs_srgb,f_auto,fl_strip_profile.lossy,q_auto:420/v1597439361/the-lasso-way-ted-lasso-s1e1.gif

JaxRed
04-11-2021, 04:11 PM
Naquin stands in the box as if he's trying to imitate Winker

The Operator
04-11-2021, 04:16 PM
3rd base umps are ringing everyone up this series

Tom Servo
04-11-2021, 04:17 PM
2020ish offense right there

JFLegal
04-11-2021, 04:17 PM
Yeah, my real question is, what does Alex Blandino have to do to get more playing time?

play for stanford?

NebraskaRed
04-11-2021, 04:17 PM
I feel like Votto has a hit a ball to that exact spot 10 times this season.

ochoa30
04-11-2021, 04:18 PM
Diamondbacks just challenging the reds this series and its worked pretty well so far.

JFLegal
04-11-2021, 04:18 PM
votto is washed up. yet he always bats in the 3 hole. ok.

membengal
04-11-2021, 04:19 PM
3rd base umps are ringing everyone up this series

is there a directive we don't know about where any checked swing is now ruled a strike?

RedsfaninMT
04-11-2021, 04:20 PM
votto is washed up. yet he always bats in the 3 hole. ok.

Hey, I've got an idea! Join the thread where lots of posters are taking shots at Joey. He put the ball in play at least.

JaxRed
04-11-2021, 04:20 PM
Do not walk this guy

Larkin90
04-11-2021, 04:21 PM
Votto is probably the single worst everyday player in MLB right now...it hurts to watch.

membengal
04-11-2021, 04:21 PM
Hey, I've got an idea! Join the thread where lots of posters are taking shots at Joey. He put the ball in play at least.

Already adding to my block list - an annual game thread tradition.

NebraskaRed
04-11-2021, 04:21 PM
Votto is probably the single worst everyday player in MLB right now...it hurts to watch.

Lol what in the world are you talking about.

JaxRed
04-11-2021, 04:22 PM
That was a nice play by Cast to hold VM to single

NebraskaRed
04-11-2021, 04:23 PM
Votto can't just be getting older, missing a step, etc. He has to be the worst player in MLB. He has to be historically bad.

KeefeCato
04-11-2021, 04:23 PM
Really hoping Jose throws a good game today.
His stuff is better than Hoffmon's.
Hoping Jose he gets to stay in rotation over Hoffmon. But let's face it Antone needs stretched out asap so he can start.

NebraskaRed
04-11-2021, 04:24 PM
Good inning overall for De Leon.

KeefeCato
04-11-2021, 04:25 PM
Votto is probably the single worst everyday player in MLB right now...it hurts to watch.

I suggest you check out several other players on other teams then.

0-2 Count
04-11-2021, 04:26 PM
Votto is probably the single worst everyday player in MLB right now...it hurts to watch.

Have you watched the Cubs hit this season?

ochoa30
04-11-2021, 04:27 PM
Weaver looks solid early. Good command.

RedsfaninMT
04-11-2021, 04:28 PM
Only 1 batter has hit a ball in play today...the worst player in mlb!

KeefeCato
04-11-2021, 04:29 PM
Weaver dealing. DeLeon is going to have to bring his A game.

Larkin90
04-11-2021, 04:29 PM
Lol what in the world are you talking about.

Well, coming into today, he’s ranked 190th out of 201 qualifying players in OPS for all of MLB. He has more at-bats than all but 2 of the guys below him, he’s older than the guys below him, he’s slower on the base paths than pretty much all of the guys below him, and he’s arguably a much worse fielder than all of the guys below him. A 37 year old Votto that OPS’ .300 is going to be one of the worst players in baseball...

JFLegal
04-11-2021, 04:29 PM
sadak says a ball is "crushed" ... that barely reaches the warning track.

NebraskaRed
04-11-2021, 04:30 PM
sadak says a ball is "crushed" ... that barely reaches the warning track.

Knowing that he's not actually there at the ballpark, I'll cut him a little bit of slack. But yeah, he needs to dial it back a little bit more.

NebraskaRed
04-11-2021, 04:31 PM
Well, coming into today, he’s ranked 190th out of 201 qualifying players in OPS for all of MLB. He has more at-bats than all but 2 of the guys below him, he’s older than the guys below him, he’s slower on the base paths than pretty much all of the guys below him, and he’s arguably a much worse fielder than all of the guys below him. A 37 year old Votto that OPS’ .300 is going to be one of the worst players in baseball...

So, going by your own selected metrics, he is not actually the worst? Okay.

KeefeCato
04-11-2021, 04:32 PM
sadak says a ball is "crushed" ... that barely reaches the warning track.

George Grande part two? I was no Thom fan but Sadak isn't very good. Plus side is maybe he will improve.

0-2 Count
04-11-2021, 04:33 PM
Sadak: Reverse Winker LOL.

ochoa30
04-11-2021, 04:33 PM
Bad pitch selection there

membengal
04-11-2021, 04:33 PM
Knowing that he's not actually there at the ballpark, I'll cut him a little bit of slack. But yeah, he needs to dial it back a little bit more.

I really don't think people understand how hard it is to call a game from a monitor as opposed to being there in person.

JFLegal
04-11-2021, 04:33 PM
Triple A Leon gives up a run already.

JaxRed
04-11-2021, 04:34 PM
I think the Dbacks players were messing with Escobar.

RedsfaninMT
04-11-2021, 04:34 PM
Well, coming into today, he’s ranked 190th out of 201 qualifying players in OPS for all of MLB. He has more at-bats than all but 2 of the guys below him, he’s older than the guys below him, he’s slower on the base paths than pretty much all of the guys below him, and he’s arguably a much worse fielder than all of the guys below him. A 37 year old Votto that OPS’ .300 is going to be one of the worst players in baseball...

Coming into today, Luis Castillo is the 7th worst starting pitcher in MLB based off ERA and 20th worst in WHIP. His ERA is worse than some guy names Matt Harvey, and his WHIP is marginally better. Can you give Votto a couple weeks? He missed significant time in spring training and may take awhile.

REDREAD
04-11-2021, 04:35 PM
Triple A Leon gives up a run already.

He seems like a nice kid, but I am looking forward to guys getting healthy and bumping him off the roster.

Banshee
04-11-2021, 04:35 PM
DeLeon throwing lots O' meatballs right down the exact center of the plate so far.

JFLegal
04-11-2021, 04:36 PM
He seems like a nice kid, but I am looking forward to guys getting healthy and bumping him off the roster.

yeah, and you seem like a nice guy. and i do not want you pitching for the reds. haha. sonny can't get back soon enough.

KeefeCato
04-11-2021, 04:36 PM
DeLeon throwing lots O' meatballs right down the exact center of the plate so far.

Good stuff but zero command with it.

Larkin90
04-11-2021, 04:36 PM
So, going by your own selected metrics, he is not actually the worst? Okay.

Reading comprehension might not be your forte, but that’s ok. His OPS isn’t quite the worst, but I pointed out that defense, base running, and age are all factors as well. I suppose an argument could be made between Votto and maybe 2 or 3 other guys as to which one is THE worst...but I said he is “probably the worst” at this time.

JFLegal
04-11-2021, 04:36 PM
DeLeon throwing lots O' meatballs right down the exact center of the plate so far.

imagine that for a guy who no one in baseball wanted.

JaxRed
04-11-2021, 04:38 PM
I think the thing Gray was wearing was a muscle stimulator. Putting out electrical pulses.

NebraskaRed
04-11-2021, 04:38 PM
Reading comprehension might not be your forte, but that’s ok. His OPS isn’t quite the worst, but I pointed out that defense, base running, and age are all factors as well. I suppose an argument could be made between Votto and maybe 2 or 3 other guys as to which one is THE worst...but I said he is “probably the worst” at this time.

Cool. So, all of those things still don't make him "the worst" and yet you think he is "probably the worst" based on two weeks into the season.

It's like I said. People can't have reasonable discussions about Votto's performance without some people trying to portray him as being historically bad and "the worst."

JFLegal
04-11-2021, 04:39 PM
i'm watching the masters on the second TV. you guys think matsuyama could give shogo lessons on how to hit a ball well? ;)

Tom Servo
04-11-2021, 04:39 PM
Eduardo Escobar wearing out the pitching, always liked him as a solid hitter. Not appreciating this though!

KeefeCato
04-11-2021, 04:40 PM
Cool. So, all of those things still don't make him "the worst" and yet you think he is "probably the worst" based on two weeks into the season.

Yeah the worst player in baseball doesn't have a bunch of 95 mph + hard hit balls.

0-2 Count
04-11-2021, 04:40 PM
Knowing that he's not actually there at the ballpark, I'll cut him a little bit of slack. But yeah, he needs to dial it back a little bit more.

Yeah. Let's not underestimate how difficult this is for the announcers when they are not at the park. They have to rely on instinct until the camera catches up to the action.

And, this is the honest to goodness truth. I was listening to the radio one time when Joe Nuxhall went into his elevated 'home run' voice with a "there's a high drive into right center" on a ball that was ultimately caught by the second baseman.

membengal
04-11-2021, 04:40 PM
"Triple A" DeLeon has 5 Ks in two innings.

Some of you all need to get a massive grip. Maybe step away from the game thread for a week or two. Find some perspective.

ochoa30
04-11-2021, 04:40 PM
Nice bounce back by De Leon

NebraskaRed
04-11-2021, 04:41 PM
"Triple A" DeLeon has 5 Ks in two innings.

Some of you all need to get a massive grip. Maybe step away from the game thread for a week or two. Find some perspective.

Yeah, well this is a AA post here.

Maybe High A.

JFLegal
04-11-2021, 04:42 PM
Yeah. Let's not underestimate how difficult this is for the announcers when they are not at the park. They have to rely on instinct until the camera catches up to the action.

And, this is the honest to goodness truth. I was listening to the radio one time when Joe Nuxhall went into his elevated 'home run' voice one time with a "there's a high drive into right center" on a ball that was ultimately caught by the second baseman.

oh stop it. even watching on TV (like sadak is) i knew off the bat that had very little chance of going out. he needs to tone that nonsense down. overall, i like him very much and i want to be clear about that. but if you jump out of your seat and scream a ball is "CRUSHED" and it barely reaches the track, you're gonna look like a clown.

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"Triple A" DeLeon has 5 Ks in two innings.

Some of you all need to get a massive grip. Maybe step away from the game thread for a week or two. Find some perspective.

how did you see that post? you said you put me on ignore, you liar.

PS: i'll stand by what i said. de leon is a AAA pitcher in a good franchise.

KeefeCato
04-11-2021, 04:43 PM
DeLeon has 3 Ks in 2 innings. Not 5.

JFLegal
04-11-2021, 04:44 PM
Yeah, well this is a AA post here.

Maybe High A.

lmao

membengal
04-11-2021, 04:44 PM
Because someone quoted it. They need to stop doing that. I have a list of you all on this thread that need to chill who are currently on ignore. You all watch these games and comment like it is a football game. Wild pronouncements from pitch to pitch, singular outcome to singular outcome. Do some of you not know how baseball works? How long games are? How long seasons are?

JFLegal
04-11-2021, 04:44 PM
DeLeon has 3 Ks in 2 innings. Not 5.

he just got 2 outs confused. no biggie.

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Because someone quoted it. They need to stop doing that. I have a list of you all on this thread that need to chill who are currently on ignore. You all watch these games and comment like it is a football game. Wild pronouncements from pitch to pitch, singular outcome to singular outcome. Do some of you know how baseball works? How long games are? How long seasons are?

well, this will be the last post of yours i will see. putting you on ignore. and i ain't lying about it. bye!

JFLegal
04-11-2021, 04:47 PM
Triple-A Leon has a good swing at the plate.

membengal
04-11-2021, 04:47 PM
Yeah. Bye. Servo and Nebraska - good luck. This kind of crap from folks sucks. Every out is clearly the end of the world and the player is the worst ever. Clearly. That's how baseball works. Got it.

NebraskaRed
04-11-2021, 04:47 PM
https://www.sports360az.com/2021/03/luke-weaver-continuing-to-fight-develop-through-bumpy-spring-training/

Today looks winnable

You're banned.

JFLegal
04-11-2021, 04:50 PM
welp, the masters is pretty much over. wow.

Bruce Berenyi
04-11-2021, 04:51 PM
small market teams rarely get the inflection point right for their "stars" the reds are wasting spots with votto he is keeping more productive players from thriving

JFLegal
04-11-2021, 04:51 PM
let's go. win this one, redlegs.

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van meter has no interest in swinging. and de leon has no interest in throwing strikes. walks him on 5 pitches.

JFLegal
04-11-2021, 04:53 PM
he just pitched vanmeter like he was pujols in his prime (steroids and all).

JFLegal
04-11-2021, 04:54 PM
2 on 1 out, might want to get the pen heated up.

NebraskaRed
04-11-2021, 04:54 PM
Lorenzen isn't coming back for a while.

ochoa30
04-11-2021, 04:54 PM
Getting scary

JFLegal
04-11-2021, 04:54 PM
Lorenzen isn't coming back for a while.

what happened?

The Operator
04-11-2021, 04:55 PM
Welp

4-0 ballgame

JFLegal
04-11-2021, 04:56 PM
Triple-A Leon gives up a 3-run shot. 4-0 Dbacks.

ochoa30
04-11-2021, 04:56 PM
Could not have put that on a tee better

The Operator
04-11-2021, 04:56 PM
Man that pitch was on a tee for a left handed batter

Tom Servo
04-11-2021, 04:56 PM
That’s not ideal.

JFLegal
04-11-2021, 04:56 PM
this is what happens when you count on guys from the scrap heap. sonny, you can't get back soon enough.

NebraskaRed
04-11-2021, 04:57 PM
Lorenzen isn't coming back for a while.

That ball Peralta hit isn't coming back for a while.

JFLegal
04-11-2021, 04:57 PM
That ball Peralta hit isn't coming back for a while.

what is the news with lorenzen?

ochoa30
04-11-2021, 04:57 PM
Couldn’t expect 2 great starts out of these last 2 guys again. Just happy they pitched well enough during the 5 game streak. Need Sonny back bad.

JFLegal
04-11-2021, 04:58 PM
Couldn’t expect 2 great starts out of these last 2 guys again. Just happy they pitched well enough during the 5 game streak. Need Sonny back bad.

i agree. and still plenty of game left. time for the offense to step up again.

TheBigLebowski
04-11-2021, 04:59 PM
I’ve been posting on sports boards for 20 years now. They’re the same everywhere. Bengals and Reds fans actually have a lot of good reasons to be sour, but all told I think all fanbases are roughly the same. And within every fanbase are over critical hot heads who get into it frequently with the “HOW DARE YOU SAY THOSE THINGS BASEBALL IS HARD AND BECAUSE METRICS YOU DIDNT SEE WHAT YOU THINK YOU SAW DINK DURP FWAR BABIP PYTHAG PURPLE MONKEY DISHWASHER.”

And these e-fisticuffs, shockingly, don’t seem to settle anything. Just makes everything worse.

I put the people I don’t like on ignore. And I’m sure I’ve landed on a few. So be it.

I do hate the practice of bludgeoning other posters because they’re seen as too negative, too positive, blah blah blah.

It’s always going to be this way. Human nature.

BluegrassRedleg
04-11-2021, 04:59 PM
Wouldn't bat an eye if this was a home game, but there's no GASmalpark to bail out this crew when it travels west.

KeefeCato
04-11-2021, 04:59 PM
Couldn’t expect 2 great starts out of these last 2 guys again. Just happy they pitched well enough during the 5 game streak. Need Sonny back bad.

Yes and need Antone stretched out now. I am not sold on Miley but at least he has a decent track record.

NebraskaRed
04-11-2021, 05:00 PM
what is the news with lorenzen?

No news other than it's "taking longer than expected"

That plus Bell saying they'll know more about his situation when they get back to Cincinnati doesn't give me a whole lot of confidence.

JFLegal
04-11-2021, 05:00 PM
nebraska red must be watching a replay of ohio state beating his cornhuskers by 70 points.

EDIT: haha, i take it back!

TexasRedsFan
04-11-2021, 05:00 PM
This pitching staff has been dreadful since Antone left Friday's game with the 5-0 lead.

JFLegal
04-11-2021, 05:00 PM
No news other than it's "taking longer than expected"

That plus Bell saying they'll know more about his situation when they get back to Cincinnati doesn't give me a whole lot of confidence.

yeah, i think your instincts are on point here. that does not sound good.

at least lorenzen can bench 500 pounds, because everyone knows that's important for pitchers.

gagliano
04-11-2021, 05:01 PM
votto is washed up. yet he always bats in the 3 hole. ok.

Like an anvil attached to a corpse

RedTeamGo!
04-11-2021, 05:01 PM
Need Gray and Antone in the rotation post haste.

ochoa30
04-11-2021, 05:01 PM
Second time through the order. Let’s see if Weaver can keep it up.

TheBigLebowski
04-11-2021, 05:01 PM
And for the love of Stanford Cardinal Baseball, please put DeLeon out to pasture. He isn’t good at this game.

JFLegal
04-11-2021, 05:03 PM
And for the love of Stanford Cardinal Baseball, please put DeLeon out to pasture. He isn’t good at this game.

there were some on this board convinced his career stats were a mirage and he had suddenly become a good pitcher.

NebraskaRed
04-11-2021, 05:03 PM
Second time through the order. Let’s see if Weaver can keep it up.

Family board

Tom Servo
04-11-2021, 05:03 PM
Need Gray and Antone in the rotation post haste.
I don’t think Antone is going into the rotation, I think they want to keep him in the pen and have been pretty clear about that.

JFLegal
04-11-2021, 05:05 PM
Second time through the order. Let’s see if Weaver can keep it up.

he can.

NebraskaRed
04-11-2021, 05:05 PM
Castellanos looks like a different hitter this series than he did for the first two series.

RedTeamGo!
04-11-2021, 05:05 PM
I don’t think Antone is going into the rotation, I think they want to keep him in the pen and have been pretty clear about that.

You’re right, but that’s not going to stop me from speaking the truth.

The Operator
04-11-2021, 05:06 PM
Joey with another laser shot right at someone

TheBigLebowski
04-11-2021, 05:06 PM
there were some on this board convinced his career stats were a mirage and he had suddenly become a good pitcher.

And Naquin will hit 79 homers and Hoffman is going to start the ASG.

Nope, nope and nope. We’re seeing the regression to the norm a little quicker than I thought we would, but we all knew it was coming.

JFLegal
04-11-2021, 05:06 PM
my god, reds down to 15 outs, and down 4 runs.

Coopdaddy67
04-11-2021, 05:07 PM
108 off the bat, .830 xBA. Yuck.

KeefeCato
04-11-2021, 05:07 PM
Is the poten offense going to get no hit?

JFLegal
04-11-2021, 05:07 PM
And Naquin will hit 79 homers and Hoffman is going to start the ASG.

Nope, nope and nope. We’re seeing the regression to the norm a little quicker than I thought we would, but we all knew it was coming.

we sure did. the chances of a bunch of guys off the scrap heap all having career years was not a good strategy. yet, that was the strategy.

ochoa30
04-11-2021, 05:08 PM
Votto needs to figure out how to lift some of these balls.

JFLegal
04-11-2021, 05:09 PM
jose might get to louisville just in time for the derby.

NebraskaRed
04-11-2021, 05:10 PM
Votto needs to figure out how to lift some of these balls.

Family board.

JFLegal
04-11-2021, 05:10 PM
Family board.

0-for-2 on that joke.

NebraskaRed
04-11-2021, 05:11 PM
0-for-2 on that joke.

Wrong. It's always funny.

JFLegal
04-11-2021, 05:12 PM
Wrong. It's always funny.

haha :cool:

Kc61
04-11-2021, 05:12 PM
After today, Reds won’t need a fifth starter for awhile. They have off days next Thursday and the subsequent Monday.

They’ll be able to go with Miley, Castillo, Mahle and Gray until April 24.

So if Reds want, they can shelf or bullpen both Hoffman and DeLeon for awhile after today.

Larry Schuler
04-11-2021, 05:13 PM
If the Reds can score 12-13 runs, they might be able to win this one.

NebraskaRed
04-11-2021, 05:13 PM
I know this is always not technically true, it just seems like the Reds can never do well when they go out west other than SF, for some reason.

Tom Servo
04-11-2021, 05:15 PM
Reds fans the minute the Reds aren't dominating every game by a score of 10-1.

https://media1.tenor.com/images/f2731ecf00dca99fbd3ff1074e505890/tenor.gif?itemid=8620703

JaxRed
04-11-2021, 05:17 PM
After today, Reds won’t need a fifth starter for awhile. They have off days next Thursday and the subsequent Monday.

They’ll be able to go with Miley, Castillo, Mahle and Gray until April 24.

So if Reds want, they can shelf or bullpen both Hoffman and DeLeon for awhile after today.

Hoffman did pretty well last night. Perez allowed 2 inherited runners to score that made it look bad. I think the chance of De Leon not using his option this year are miniscule. So go ahead and use it and bring up Schrock for a bit.

JFLegal
04-11-2021, 05:20 PM
wow he walks vanmeter again.

The Operator
04-11-2021, 05:20 PM
This ain’t gonna end well

Tom Servo
04-11-2021, 05:20 PM
can’t keep walking JVM, that’s just not going to cut it

ochoa30
04-11-2021, 05:21 PM
No command in or outside the zone

JFLegal
04-11-2021, 05:22 PM
get out of this jam and the reds still have a chance.

JaxRed
04-11-2021, 05:23 PM
can’t keep walking JVM, that’s just not going to cut it

And walks were his thing to avoid today.....

JFLegal
04-11-2021, 05:23 PM
tysteve saves a run there.

JaxRed
04-11-2021, 05:24 PM
Is someone ready?

JFLegal
04-11-2021, 05:24 PM
it's torturous watching deleon pitch, but at least he got out of that. 4-0 dbacks headed to the 5th.

RedTeamGo!
04-11-2021, 05:24 PM
Reds fans the minute the Reds aren't dominating every game by a score of 10-1.

https://media1.tenor.com/images/f2731ecf00dca99fbd3ff1074e505890/tenor.gif?itemid=8620703

Yep, if you had told me a month ago they would start this season 6-3 with 4 games started by Hoffman and De Leon I would have laughed in your face.

NebraskaRed
04-11-2021, 05:25 PM
The Reds will get a hit this inning* I can just feel it

*can refer to any inning during this game or tomorrow's game

KeefeCato
04-11-2021, 05:25 PM
After today, Reds won’t need a fifth starter for awhile. They have off days next Thursday and the subsequent Monday.

They’ll be able to go with Miley, Castillo, Mahle and Gray until April 24.

So if Reds want, they can shelf or bullpen both Hoffman and DeLeon for awhile after today.

I bet they use a 5th guy though. Will wanna give Gray extra rest. Hope not though.

The Operator
04-11-2021, 05:26 PM
A base runner this inning would be great

WrongVerb
04-11-2021, 05:26 PM
Hey, Jose...

https://y.yarn.co/650db3ea-c01a-433c-90ac-004d7ec1ce67_text.gif

0-2 Count
04-11-2021, 05:26 PM
Offense? Offense? Offense? Anyone? Offense?

JaxRed
04-11-2021, 05:28 PM
I would have Romano be the next pitcher and have him ready to come in at slightest trouble and tell him to count on at least 3 innings.

The Operator
04-11-2021, 05:30 PM
Yikes.

Reds getting perfecto’d through 5.

KeefeCato
04-11-2021, 05:31 PM
No hitter alert in Arizona.

0-2 Count
04-11-2021, 05:31 PM
This game has the look to it.

JFLegal
04-11-2021, 05:31 PM
lol luke weaver throwing a perfect game through 5. jeez.

NebraskaRed
04-11-2021, 05:31 PM
https://www.sports360az.com/2021/03/luke-weaver-continuing-to-fight-develop-through-bumpy-spring-training/

Today looks winnable

Double banned.

ochoa30
04-11-2021, 05:31 PM
Baseball gods have put there foot down. 1 week of success for the Reds is just too much.

KeefeCato
04-11-2021, 05:32 PM
lol luke weaver throwing a perfect game through 5. jeez.

2020 offense is back at least for today.

JaxRed
04-11-2021, 05:33 PM
I would have Romano be the next pitcher and have him ready to come in at slightest trouble and tell him to count on at least 3 innings.

I would have Romano coming in now.

The Operator
04-11-2021, 05:34 PM
Meep

JFLegal
04-11-2021, 05:35 PM
why is Triple-A Leon still in the game?

ochoa30
04-11-2021, 05:35 PM
Not good, meatballs for everyone

Tom Servo
04-11-2021, 05:35 PM
guess JDL is taking one for the team

The Operator
04-11-2021, 05:35 PM
Well, that oughtta do it

Kc61
04-11-2021, 05:36 PM
There are lots of uncertainties going forward. But this game may resolve the first one: who goes down to make room for Sonny Gray.

JFLegal
04-11-2021, 05:36 PM
omg

0-2 Count
04-11-2021, 05:36 PM
Let's take 2 of 3 from San Fran. 3-3 West Coast road trip is still successful.

JFLegal
04-11-2021, 05:37 PM
well, this one is over. been real, fellas. let's hope the team gets its mojo back in san francisco.

also, it's awesome sonny gray will be back soon.

NebraskaRed
04-11-2021, 05:37 PM
K or Home Run, there is no in-between.

ochoa30
04-11-2021, 05:38 PM
Strike outs, walks, and absolute meatballs. That’s who De Leon is.

BCubb2003
04-11-2021, 05:38 PM
De Leon showing that strikeouts are not a big deal.

Old school 1983
04-11-2021, 05:38 PM
DeLeon leaves the ball up too often. Too many cement mixer off speed pitches. He was able to shake it after a bad inning against a terrible pirates team. Gray needs to take his spot and he doesn’t need to come back until he learns to keep the off speed stuff down or on the corners.

Kc61
04-11-2021, 05:38 PM
Too bad for DeLeon he has tantalizing stuff but lacks command and makes too many mistakes.

They should send him down and let him prepare for relief duty.

NebraskaRed
04-11-2021, 05:38 PM
Talk about lowered expectations, I started this game hoping they could win and keep a streak of series wins going.

Now I'm just hoping they don't get no-hit.

Tom Servo
04-11-2021, 05:39 PM
Strike outs, walks, and absolute meatballs. That’s who De Leon is.
Three true outcomes!

0-2 Count
04-11-2021, 05:39 PM
Was a double switch really necessary? I see that as more likely to hurt than help in a game like this.

BCubb2003
04-11-2021, 05:40 PM
The Reds need some of that bat-flippin’ boot-scootin’ stuff.

JaxRed
04-11-2021, 05:40 PM
And we do a double switch for no reason. Just have Blandino pinch hit when Bedrock's turn comes up. Leaves Moose in the game.

NebraskaRed
04-11-2021, 05:40 PM
Was a double switch really necessary? I see that as more likely to hurt than help in a game like this.


https://youtu.be/AMQLu-NqS7o

JaxRed
04-11-2021, 05:41 PM
Was a double switch really necessary? I see that as more likely to hurt than help in a game like this.

No it was dumb. If they have the DH it'll stop Bell from doing that.

50YrRedsFan
04-11-2021, 05:42 PM
I'm sure these dumpster diving retreads will restore order.

KeefeCato
04-11-2021, 05:43 PM
Was a double switch really necessary? I see that as more likely to hurt than help in a game like this.

Bell can't help his self .

Bruce Berenyi
04-11-2021, 05:43 PM
really glad aquino is on the bench, that is really going to help his consistency

Wonderful Monds
04-11-2021, 05:43 PM
Gotta do better than this against the DBacks. That lineup is pitiful. A pretty bad series considering how the first week and change went.

I agree they won’t put Antone in the rotation, but they SHOULD be doing it, especially if Lorenzen is fairly far off still.

RedTeamGo!
04-11-2021, 05:43 PM
I'm sure these dumpster diving retreads will restore order.

This guy didn’t say a word during the 6 game winning streak.

ochoa30
04-11-2021, 05:44 PM
Bedrosian is not good

RedTeamGo!
04-11-2021, 05:44 PM
really glad aquino is on the bench, that is really going to help his consistency

Lol

Wonderful Monds
04-11-2021, 05:44 PM
really glad aquino is on the bench, that is really going to help his consistency

Which one of the currently on fire outfielders do you suggest we sit for him?

I’m really not looking forward to the return of this bit.

RedTeamGo!
04-11-2021, 05:44 PM
The kiss of death

Yup

ochoa30
04-11-2021, 05:45 PM
We’re back in BABIP hell

NebraskaRed
04-11-2021, 05:46 PM
Space Jam was not great.

WVRedsFan
04-11-2021, 05:46 PM
Celebrated 41 years of marital bliss today and came back to this. We need to get Gray back pronto.

50YrRedsFan
04-11-2021, 05:47 PM
This guy didn’t say a word during the 6 game winning streak.

Was deciding whether to subscribe to MLB TV. Maybe I brought bad luck by subscribing..

Tom Servo
04-11-2021, 05:47 PM
Gotta do better than this against the DBacks. That lineup is pitiful. A pretty bad series considering how the first week and change went.

Yeah its definitely a major downer, though as noted earlier you can only expect so much from Hoffman and De Leon. Kinda figure the script in this series would be different if not for having to throw them out there again.

Kc61
04-11-2021, 05:48 PM
Romano is too good to pitch in this game.

0-2 Count
04-11-2021, 05:48 PM
And we do a double switch for no reason. Just have Blandino pinch hit when Bedrock's turn comes up. Leaves Moose in the game.

Better yet. He should have brought in Blandino to pitch.

ochoa30
04-11-2021, 05:48 PM
Just can’t throw strikes to a masher like Van Meter

JaxRed
04-11-2021, 05:49 PM
Bedrock looks into his cap and sees "Don't walk in a run"

50YrRedsFan
04-11-2021, 05:51 PM
Give Bedrosian his bus ticket back to AAA

NebraskaRed
04-11-2021, 05:51 PM
Seems to me that the Reds should consider getting a hit.

Tom Servo
04-11-2021, 05:52 PM
Might give Bedrosian one more week of low leverage work and if it's still this bad I'd dump him and bring Ryan Hendrix up if he's healthy.

NebraskaRed
04-11-2021, 05:52 PM
Susan Slusser
@susanslusser

DeSclafani with a tremendous effort to get out of trouble in the sixth, and Casali, too.

#nottheReds

TexasRedsFan
04-11-2021, 05:53 PM
Bedrosian needs to be the one gone when Sonny comes back, if not sooner.

Larry Schuler
04-11-2021, 05:54 PM
Let’s make it a complete game one hitter! Go Reds!

JaxRed
04-11-2021, 05:54 PM
Bedrosian needs to be the one gone when Sonny comes back, if not sooner.

Romano calls his mom. "I might still be here in 2 weeks"

Alf_Red_E
04-11-2021, 05:55 PM
You're banned.

Words to remove from my pregame lexicon... winnable

Kc61
04-11-2021, 05:55 PM
Bedrosian needs to be the one gone when Sonny comes back, if not sooner.

DeLeon has the minor league option. So he may get the first trip out.

Coopdaddy67
04-11-2021, 05:57 PM
The difference in the game is that every hard hit ball for the Reds has resulted in an out and every hard hit ball for the Diamondbacks has been a hit.

ochoa30
04-11-2021, 05:57 PM
Just not capitalizing on his mistakes

JaxRed
04-11-2021, 05:57 PM
BTW I would get Aquino into today's game. Might give Castellanos a breather.

TheBigLebowski
04-11-2021, 05:58 PM
Well ahead of schedule at 6-3, and it’s clear no one in this division is going to run away with it.

But we have at least 4 Cinderellas turning back into pumpkins with possibly a 5th in metamorphosis.

Sonny is due soon and hopefully he’s his old self. Lorenzen probably tried to bench press the tundra in CF without a spot. When you try to bench press a pickup truck without a spot, you’re gonna have a bad time.

This division CAN be had. Let’s see what our stuffed shirts do. This would be a terrible opportunity to just ignore.

gagliano
04-11-2021, 05:58 PM
Blandino is the offense today.

JaxRed
04-11-2021, 06:00 PM
Video quality test......

If you can see Weaver's facial hair, you are watching in HD or better.

JFLegal
04-11-2021, 06:00 PM
you can't throw a perfect game when STANFORD BASEBALL is involved.

TheBigLebowski
04-11-2021, 06:00 PM
The difference in the game is that every hard hit ball for the Reds has resulted in an out and every hard hit ball for the Diamondbacks has been a hit.

Hm. That, and Ponce De Leon’s son, Jose. Ponce took some folks and found Florida whereas Jose is generally the first player to find the showers.

NebraskaRed
04-11-2021, 06:01 PM
I don't know what Naquin was doing there.

ochoa30
04-11-2021, 06:01 PM
Naquin has fouled off at least 5 fastballs right down the pipe today.

TexasRedsFan
04-11-2021, 06:02 PM
I don't know what Naquin was doing there.

Clearly, neither did he.

mhs95_06
04-11-2021, 06:03 PM
D'backs trying to pad their assist totals on the last out of the 6th! I wonder how they scored that officially?

ochoa30
04-11-2021, 06:05 PM
The diamondbacks consistent quality of AB has far outweighed the Reds in this series especially in the last 2 games. Pitching has been super rough.

zigbeenuthouse
04-11-2021, 06:07 PM
This series show really why journeymen types in Hoffman and DeLeon and Bedrosian belong in AAA or lower. You cannot expect to win a division throwing those guys. One of them MAY work out in long relief and that is probably Hoffman. Deleon and Bedroisan DFA soon.

NebraskaRed
04-11-2021, 06:08 PM
The diamondbacks consistent quality of AB has far outweighed the Reds in this series especially in the last 2 games. Pitching has been super rough.

Castellanos especially has looked very different this series. He went from super dialed in to just swinging away at anything.

TexasRedsFan
04-11-2021, 06:10 PM
Cast's streakiness reminds me very much of Jay Bruce.

ochoa30
04-11-2021, 06:10 PM
Castellanos especially has looked very different this series. He went from super dialed in to just swinging away at anything.

The aggressive approach isn’t going to work every game. They were grinding AB’s in that first home stand but it’s been a totally different story on the road.

ochoa30
04-11-2021, 06:13 PM
Swinging at the first pitch down 7 is interesting

NebraskaRed
04-11-2021, 06:14 PM
A walk!

The Operator
04-11-2021, 06:15 PM
Well thankfully the no no is gone

ochoa30
04-11-2021, 06:15 PM
You can tell he’s gassed

NebraskaRed
04-11-2021, 06:15 PM
Finally

The Operator
04-11-2021, 06:15 PM
Let’s blow up the shutout now too.

757690
04-11-2021, 06:15 PM
Home run here puts the Reds within slam range

JFLegal
04-11-2021, 06:16 PM
geno!

JaxRed
04-11-2021, 06:17 PM
Why not pinch hit Winker here against a lefty and you can still use Aquino to replace someone in OF?

ochoa30
04-11-2021, 06:17 PM
Terrible AB

757690
04-11-2021, 06:18 PM
Aquino lets another very hittable fastball go by. He needs to be more aggressive.

texasdave
04-11-2021, 06:18 PM
Aquino was pretty consistent there: GM GA GN.

gagliano
04-11-2021, 06:19 PM
This series show really why journeymen types in Hoffman and DeLeon and Bedrosian belong in AAA or lower. You cannot expect to win a division throwing those guys. One of them MAY work out in long relief and that is probably Hoffman. Deleon and Bedroisan DFA soon.

Every dog has their day

TexasRedsFan
04-11-2021, 06:19 PM
At least we got a crooked number somewhere.

mhs95_06
04-11-2021, 06:22 PM
Castellanos especially has looked very different this series. He went from super dialed in to just swinging away at anything.

Kind of like he did last season.

JaxRed
04-11-2021, 06:23 PM
Why not pinch hit Winker here against a lefty and you can still use Aquino to replace someone in OF?

And now, in a 7-0 blowout, when you can get AA some much needed evaluation at bats, you just used him up.

NebraskaRed
04-11-2021, 06:27 PM
Who doesn't miss Johnny??

Alabama Red
04-11-2021, 06:28 PM
I think they need to move Votto back to 6th. Move NS to 2 and NC to 3, then ES and MM. Votto has hit some hard balls but he has done that the last 2-3 years. The problem is that he hits right into the shift. He has lost power and HRs are now long outs. The move is going to have to be made eventually and I think now could be the right time. He may benefit from moving down.

TexasRedsFan
04-11-2021, 06:28 PM
I missed Moose getting pulled. Was it for injury or just a Bell double switch?

TexasRedsFan
04-11-2021, 06:29 PM
I think they need to move Votto back to 6th. Move NS to 2 and NC to 3, then ES and MM. Votto has hit some hard balls but he has done that the last 2-3 years. The problem is that he hits right into the shift. He has lost power and HRs are now long outs. The move is going to have to be made eventually and I think now could be the right time. He may benefit from moving down.

Or just bench him for a game or two. That really helped him last year.

Tom Servo
04-11-2021, 06:29 PM
Walk aside, I've been mildly impressed with Fulmer so far. He was mostly a disaster in the big leagues previously and now it seems like he isn't trying to do too much and is getting solid results from it.

TexasRedsFan
04-11-2021, 06:33 PM
Hopefully they can at least score a couple runs to get some momentum back heading into SF.

ochoa30
04-11-2021, 06:35 PM
Awful strike call or the bases are probably loaded right now

WVRedsFan
04-11-2021, 06:36 PM
Awful umpiring on balls and strikes

Tom Servo
04-11-2021, 06:36 PM
Thought Castellanos might have gotten just enough on that one, bleh.