Hoosier Football-2021

[Assembly Hall]

Been since 1991...

https://iuhoosiers.com/news/2021/4/19/football-iu-notre-dame-agree-to-home-home-series.aspx

[adkindo]

Been since 1991...

https://iuhoosiers.com/news/2021/4/19/football-iu-notre-dame-agree-to-home-home-series.aspx

I hate these announcements....it is like BREAKING NEWS....we added this really big game to our schedule....and we will play it in 10 years from now. Not trying to be negative, but there is probably a 30%+ chance ND joins the ACC or other massive realignment causes this series to be adjusted or cancelled. I recall when WVU announced a home and home with FSU, they were still a national power....then it had to be changed to a single game kickoff classic at a neutral site when WVU joined the Big12 (I think that was the reason)...and it was scheduled for last season which of course did not happen.

My thoughts have little to do with your announcement and more just my frustration with football games scheduled so far in advance because who knows where each program will be at the time. Recently I recall fans giving UCF crap for playing Pitt, Maryland and UNC as their P5 games in years those teams were not very good....but if you look at those teams when the games were actually scheduled, it was a very different scenario. Alabama is coming to Morgantown.....in 2026!

[Assembly Hall]

I hate these announcements....it is like BREAKING NEWS....we added this really big game to our schedule....and we will play it in 10 years from now. Not trying to be negative, but there is probably a 30%+ chance ND joins the ACC or other massive realignment causes this series to be adjusted or cancelled. I recall when WVU announced a home and home with FSU, they were still a national power....then it had to be changed to a single game kickoff classic at a neutral site when WVU joined the Big12 (I think that was the reason)...and it was scheduled for last season which of course did not happen.

My thoughts have little to do with your announcement and more just my frustration with football games scheduled so far in advance because who knows where each program will be at the time. Recently I recall fans giving UCF crap for playing Pitt, Maryland and UNC as their P5 games in years those teams were not very good....but if you look at those teams when the games were actually scheduled, it was a very different scenario. Alabama is coming to Morgantown.....in 2026!

I really don't understand what you are babbling about. You do realize that this is IU football, right? To me, this is an acknowledgement of just how far the Hoosier program has come. Besides IU and Notre Dame work pretty well together.

[adkindo]

I really don't understand what you are babbling about. You do realize that this is IU football, right? To me, this is an acknowledgement of just how far the Hoosier program has come. Besides IU and Notre Dame work pretty well together.

No reason to be rude. Yes, I understand it is an IU football thread, and I was clear that my response was to the IU announcement, but directed at all similar college football announcements. If WVU scheduled ND in 2030, they would make a huge deal about the agreement. I personally am not a fan of these games being scheduled so far in advance for any team and do not think it is needed for a couple reasons. First, college football is extremely unstable right now with all of the television contracts for the P5 conferences in preliminary discussions and will conclude within a few years. If there are a few changes, and ND clearly could be one of those changes, many of their contracts will have to be adjusted, bought out or cancelled. This could be a little safer because of the in state element and IU not being a team that could see changes in their conference situation.

The second reason is outside of a handful of teams....and maybe not even a handful, but we have no idea what position these programs will be in nearly 10 years out. For example, in 2026 Texas offers Tom Allen $15 Million a year and he leaves which results in IU struggling in football and being at the bottom of the Big10 in 2030. That same year, ND is 9-2 trying to get into the playoffs....that IU game (or fill in the blank with any team or flip the teams) will be used against them on their schedule strength.

I get it from the schools perspective....they are using it to drive up excitement and sell season tickets. I would bet anything IU sold some season tickets today because of the excitement the announcement generated. I still do not think it is necessary to schedule so far in advance for the reasons I listed because while we can project that being a very competitive game next season and even likely a couple seasons in the future, we have no idea what it will be in 2030 if it remains on the schedule. If you felt I was "babbling", I was just trying to give other situations as examples to try to ensure you knew I was not being negative about IU or trying to insult your favorite team. In basketball, most games are scheduled in a 6 month period before the season, and this past season we saw how football could be scheduled fairly quickly when needed also. I think it would be beneficial if we limited future year scheduling to maybe 4 years at the most.

[Assembly Hall]

No reason to be rude. Yes, I understand it is an IU football thread, and I was clear that my response was to the IU announcement, but directed at all similar college football announcements. If WVU scheduled ND in 2030, they would make a huge deal about the agreement. I personally am not a fan of these games being scheduled so far in advance for any team and do not think it is needed for a couple reasons. First, college football is extremely unstable right now with all of the television contracts for the P5 conferences in preliminary discussions and will conclude within a few years. If there are a few changes, and ND clearly could be one of those changes, many of their contracts will have to be adjusted, bought out or cancelled. This could be a little safer because of the in state element and IU not being a team that could see changes in their conference situation.

The second reason is outside of a handful of teams....and maybe not even a handful, but we have no idea what position these programs will be in nearly 10 years out. For example, in 2026 Texas offers Tom Allen $15 Million a year and he leaves which results in IU struggling in football and being at the bottom of the Big10 in 2030. That same year, ND is 9-2 trying to get into the playoffs....that IU game (or fill in the blank with any team or flip the teams) will be used against them on their schedule strength.

I get it from the schools perspective....they are using it to drive up excitement and sell season tickets. I would bet anything IU sold some season tickets today because of the excitement the announcement generated. I still do not think it is necessary to schedule so far in advance for the reasons I listed because while we can project that being a very competitive game next season and even likely a couple seasons in the future, we have no idea what it will be in 2030 if it remains on the schedule. If you felt I was "babbling", I was just trying to give other situations as examples to try to ensure you knew I was not being negative about IU or trying to insult your favorite team. In basketball, most games are scheduled in a 6 month period before the season, and this past season we saw how football could be scheduled fairly quickly when needed also. I think it would be beneficial if we limited future year scheduling to maybe 4 years at the most.

Yeah, I get it. And living in Notre Dame country has always made me laugh about football scheduling.

[Assembly Hall]

Big Flip?

https://247sports.com/PlayerInstitution/Dasan-McCullough-at-Bloomington-South-226570/CurrentExpertPredictions/

[adkindo]

Big Flip?

https://247sports.com/PlayerInstitution/Dasan-McCullough-at-Bloomington-South-226570/CurrentExpertPredictions/

IU just hired his father recently....Ohio State had to know at that point they would likely lose him.

[Assembly Hall]

IU just hired his father recently....Ohio State had to know at that point they would likely lose him.

https://247sports.com/Article/Indiana-Ohio-State-recruiting-Dasan-McCullough-flips-commitment-Tom-Allen-recruiting-164650771/

[adkindo]

https://247sports.com/Article/Indiana-Ohio-State-recruiting-Dasan-McCullough-flips-commitment-Tom-Allen-recruiting-164650771/

Rivals has him ranked as the 34th best player in the country....4th best OLB.

[RedTeamGo!]

IU just hired his father recently....Ohio State had to know at that point they would likely lose him.

Both of his brothers too. Can’t blame him for leaving to play with his entire family, ha.

[Assembly Hall]

Rivals has him ranked as the 34th best player in the country....4th best OLB.

We will gladly take that in Bloomington.

[Assembly Hall]

Both of his brothers too. Can’t blame him for leaving to play with his entire family, ha.

Nope, you sure can't. Go Hoosiers.

[adkindo]

We will gladly take that in Bloomington.

Alabama, Clemson, Ohio State, Georgia, LSU, Michigan, Oklahoma, Penn State, Texas, USC and many others would have taken also....

[Assembly Hall]

Alabama, Clemson, Ohio State, Georgia, LSU, Michigan, Oklahoma, Penn State, Texas, USC and many others would have taken also....

And that makes it sweeter...

I just came across this for ya as well...

https://247sports.com/Recruitment/Zane-Durant-135551/RecruitInterests/

[adkindo]

And that makes it sweeter...

I just came across this for ya as well...

https://247sports.com/Recruitment/Zane-Durant-135551/RecruitInterests/

Yeah, he is a local kid. WVU use to live off of Florida recruiting from the late 80's through 2010'ish....then Dana kind of abandoned it. Neal Brown has made a strong push into Florida and Georgia.....starting to show positive signs. When I was in high school in the mid 90's, Doc Holliday (WVU Assistant and later Marshall HC) had relationships with pretty much every high school in Florida and high school players knew of him, but recruiting is so much different these days. I have been seeing more and more players that WVU has offered (outside of the 5 Stars every school offers) that Indiana is chasing also. IU and Allen definitely have a lot of momentum after recent seasons...I would expect some more frequent high level recruits in the near future to make their way to IU.

Not IU related, but WVU did one of those announcements I hate today to play Tennessee @ a Neutral site to kickoff the season....in 2028. I could not help but express my opinion on why I really am not a fan of these games scheduled so far in advance....or at least my hesitancy to get excited for them. WVU fans were not having it and could not imagine this not being a big time game....which is crazy since it was just 2018 when we played Tennessee at the same site in basically the same game....we were dark horse playoff contenders and they were a dumpster fire. As expected, nobody outside WV and Tennessee gave a crap about the game on that day....but the eternal optimism of college football fans just cannot imagine it being a meaningless game a decade later.

[texasdave]

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/31351522/cincinnati-bengals-declining-billy-price-5th-year-option-source-says

5th-year option for Billy Price is being declined.

[adkindo]

And that makes it sweeter...

I just came across this for ya as well...

https://247sports.com/Recruitment/Zane-Durant-135551/RecruitInterests/

he seems to really like you guys....

https://247sports.com/college/west-virginia/Article/Zane-Durant-top-six-Miami-UCF-Indiana-West-Virginia-Penn-State-and-Ole-Miss-165106553/

This is another recruit we are chasing hard that it feels like is IU's to lose...

https://247sports.com/Article/Omar-Cooper-official-visits-Indiana-West-Virginia-Cincinnati-165059734/

[Assembly Hall]

Nice read here: https://www.wdrb.com/sports/bozich-uks-rodriguez-ius-penix-stir-early-football-buzz/article_f483e1f2-af61-11eb-9d10-0b12f9b705e6.html

[Assembly Hall]

CTA gets another...https://www.thedailyhoosier.com/auburn-transfer-jaren-handy-commits-to-indiana/

[adkindo]

Looking at some of the preseason rankings, IU is around #20ish? I assume IU fans would rank them a bit higher? Just considering last season and who you have returning, I would have thought higher than #20. Looking at the "cumulative" preseason rankings, IU (#21) is 5th behind Ohio State (#4), Wisconsin (#14), Penn State (#18), and Iowa (#19). Is it just a case of media outlets filling in the perennial names higher?

[Assembly Hall]

Looking at some of the preseason rankings, IU is around #20ish? I assume IU fans would rank them a bit higher? Just considering last season and who you have returning, I would have thought higher than #20. Looking at the "cumulative" preseason rankings, IU (#21) is 5th behind Ohio State (#4), Wisconsin (#14), Penn State (#18), and Iowa (#19). Is it just a case of media outlets filling in the perennial names higher?

I believe that tOSU(of course) and Iowa are for real. Penn St. not so much. We beat Wisconsin in cheese land last year with our back-up QB playing their freakin' style of game.

That being said, Covid played into last year so all bets are off for this year. I am just tickled being ranked in these preseason polls.

[adkindo]

Not American football, but I noticed that IU and Marshall U. play for the Men's National Championship in soccer on Monday.

[Assembly Hall]

Not American football, but I noticed that IU and Marshall U. play for the Men's National Championship in soccer on Monday.

Nothing new here for Hoosier fans. IU going for their 9th national title in kickball.

[Assembly Hall]

Sounds like USC's Stephen Carr to IU...

https://247sports.com/college/usc/Article/stephen-carr-ncaa-transfer-portal-usc-football-running-back--165159712/

[adkindo]

Nothing new here for Hoosier fans. IU going for their 9th national title in kickball.

Maybe next year because the little team from WV is national champions this year. Marshall won 1-0 in OT.

[Assembly Hall]

9-3?

https://buckeyeswire.usatoday.com/lists/big-ten-football-predicting-teams-records-2021-ohio-state/

[Hoosier Red]

9-3?

https://buckeyeswire.usatoday.com/lists/big-ten-football-predicting-teams-records-2021-ohio-state/

I certainly wouldn't turn that down.
It's hard to say based on just wins and losses how much he's discounting IU's chances against Iowa or Cincinnati's against IU. Those along with Michigan and tPSU seem to be the biggest swing games for IU this year.

[Assembly Hall]

I certainly wouldn't turn that down.
It's hard to say based on just wins and losses how much he's discounting IU's chances against Iowa or Cincinnati's against IU. Those along with Michigan and tPSU seem to be the biggest swing games for IU this year.

Tough opponents aside, the Hoosiers need Penix to stay healthy all season long.

[Assembly Hall]

Another transfer coming in...

https://www.thedailyhoosier.com/iu-football-announces-addition-of-texas-am-graduate-transfer-receiver-camron-buckley/

[Assembly Hall]

Nice piece on Stephen Carr...

https://www.thedailyhoosier.com/california-kid-stephen-carr-focusing-on-himself-now-that-hes-left-l-a/

[adkindo]

sounds like we made an impression on a couple of Indiana kids with IU offers. You guys are up next on their calendars. I would say good luck....but we would both know I would not mean it in this situation. :)

https://247sports.com/college/west-virginia/Article/West-Virginia-recruiting-Omar-Cooper-official-visit-166498934/

https://247sports.com/college/west-virginia/Article/Landen-Livingston-West-Virginia-official-visit-166499361/

[Assembly Hall]

sounds like we made an impression on a couple of Indiana kids with IU offers. You guys are up next on their calendars. I would say good luck....but we would both know I would not mean it in this situation. :)

https://247sports.com/college/west-virginia/Article/West-Virginia-recruiting-Omar-Cooper-official-visit-166498934/

https://247sports.com/college/west-virginia/Article/Landen-Livingston-West-Virginia-official-visit-166499361/

Behind a pay wall?

[Assembly Hall]

Been busy the last few days with recruiting...

https://247sports.com/college/indiana/Season/2022-Football/Commits/

[adkindo]

Behind a pay wall?

Did not realize....it was just Omar Cooper and Landen Livingston talking up WVU.....2 Indiana guys that IU is also recruiting. I expect Cooper is a near lock for IU, but WVU has a shot at Livingston.

[Assembly Hall]

Did not realize....it was just Omar Cooper and Landen Livingston talking up WVU.....2 Indiana guys that IU is also recruiting. I expect Cooper is a near lock for IU, but WVU has a shot at Livingston.

Livingston. The Fort Wayne area product.

[adkindo]

Livingston. The Fort Wayne area product.

I typed in his high school (Leo High School) to see where it was in the state. It came up as Leo-Cedarville and this is the main image attached to Google maps for that town/area.....

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/p/AF1QipMFCuoJxpDmjE7ZobH8yCSYIlay6iTQO8zhsByH=w408-h305-k-no

I assume it is a "rural" area?

[Assembly Hall]

I typed in his high school (Leo High School) to see where it was in the state. It came up as Leo-Cedarville and this is the main image attached to Google maps for that town/area.....

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/p/AF1QipMFCuoJxpDmjE7ZobH8yCSYIlay6iTQO8zhsByH=w408-h305-k-no

I assume it is a "rural" area?

I would call it in the 'burbs of Fort Wayne. But they do play in a "rural" conference, not the mighty "SAC" of Fort Wayne.

Here is something:https://www.wane.com/high-school-sports/highlight-zone-honors-annual-fab-15-for-eighth-year-in-a-row/

[Assembly Hall]

Cooper Jones

https://www.si.com/college/indiana/football/standout-indiana-freshman-cooper-jones-part-of-hoosier-legacy

[adkindo]

Jeff Rabjohns
@JeffRabjohns

Indiana lands 6-foot-6 Ohio tight end Ryan Miller, who had offers from Auburn, Tennessee, West Virginia and others. Another recruiting win for @CoachAllenIU and his staff.

7:06 PM · Jun 29, 2021

https://twitter.com/JeffRabjohns/status/1410011909630447621

[Assembly Hall]

https://twitter.com/JeffRabjohns/status/1410011909630447621

Are you a closet Hoosier fan? LOL

[adkindo]

Are you a closet Hoosier fan? LOL

They may be my least disliked Big10 team! No, I was aware of him because WVU was recruiting him.

[Assembly Hall]

Did not realize....it was just Omar Cooper and Landen Livingston talking up WVU.....2 Indiana guys that IU is also recruiting. I expect Cooper is a near lock for IU, but WVU has a shot at Livingston.

Yep, you can cross Omar off your wish list.

[adkindo]

Yep, you can cross Omar off your wish list.

Yeah, you are a few days late. I was going to post, but I did not want to take over the Hoosier thread. :)

Btw, I think he will be very good at the next level by his 2nd/3rd year if he is healthy. Has a level of "it" factor to him from the limited film I watched. Per him, it was a two team race, but I never thought he would go anywhere except IU. I had read some things back when WVU offered over a year ago that sources around him/IU thought he had his sights on one school. He was a 4 Star WR and only took 2 OV's....he knew where he was likely going for a while.

[Assembly Hall]

Yeah, you are a few days late. I was going to post, but I did not want to take over the Hoosier thread. :)

Btw, I think he will be very good at the next level by his 2nd/3rd year if he is healthy. Has a level of "it" factor to him from the limited film I watched. Per him, it was a two team race, but I never thought he would go anywhere except IU. I had read some things back when WVU offered over a year ago that sources around him/IU thought he had his sights on one school. He was a 4 Star WR and only took 2 OV's....he knew where he was likely going for a while.

Just as winning on the field, as an IU fan I am not accustomed to winning recruiting battles either. Bring on the Buckeyes! LOL

[SidneySlicker]

I do college football recruiting work around the State of Ohio, and let me tell you Tom Allen and IU have things rolling right now. They're putting themselves in position to be a yearly challenger for the Big Ten East.

[Assembly Hall]

I do college football recruiting work around the State of Ohio, and let me tell you Tom Allen and IU have things rolling right now. They're putting themselves in position to be a yearly challenger for the Big Ten East.

https://www.thedailyhoosier.com/four-star-fort-wayne-ol-dj-moore-commits-to-indiana/

[redsfanmia]

I do college football recruiting work around the State of Ohio, and let me tell you Tom Allen and IU have things rolling right now. They're putting themselves in position to be a yearly challenger for the Big Ten East.

And they have always said it couldn’t be done at IU…

[BillDoran]

And they have always said it couldn’t be done at IU…

I'm here for the rise of Hoosier football, but let's pump the breaks. They have done nothing yet and still face a pretty daunting climb.

Ohio State is a juggernaut. We'll learn a lot about James Franklin's Penn State this year (though the QB situation is a mess). Michigan, despite the criticism, is a pretty solid program. Schiano will have Rutgers competitive in short order.

I'd imagine they'll finish between second and fifth (of seven) in the division for the foreseeable future. Allen's done incredible work, and the program seems to be on solid ground, but I actually think going from 7/8 wins a year to 10/11 wins a year is much harder than getting out of the cellar.

[Assembly Hall]

I'm here for the rise of Hoosier football, but let's pump the breaks. They have done nothing yet and still face a pretty daunting climb.

Ohio State is a juggernaut. We'll learn a lot about James Franklin's Penn State this year (though the QB situation is a mess). Michigan, despite the criticism, is a pretty solid program. Schiano will have Rutgers competitive in short order.

I'd imagine they'll finish between second and fifth (of seven) in the division for the foreseeable future. Allen's done incredible work, and the program seems to be on solid ground, but I actually think going from 7/8 wins a year to 10/11 wins a year is much harder than getting out of the cellar.

Who's talking about 10/11 wins a year? I think most fans are elated at the prospect of winning 7/8 times a year. Baby steps.

[Assembly Hall]

Preseason "awards": https://www.thedailyhoosier.com/michael-penix-jr-named-one-of-10-big-ten-football-preseason-honorees/

[Assembly Hall]

Another one...

https://www.wcpo.com/sports/high-school-sports/la-salle-2022-running-back-gibran-payne-announces-his-verbal-commitment-to-indiana

[BillDoran]

Another one...

https://www.wcpo.com/sports/high-school-sports/la-salle-2022-running-back-gibran-payne-announces-his-verbal-commitment-to-indiana

Gi'Bran Payne had an offer from Alabama. Albeit, probably not immediately committable, but that's a serious get for Allen and company.

[Hoosier Red]

I'm here for the rise of Hoosier football, but let's pump the breaks. They have done nothing yet and still face a pretty daunting climb.

Ohio State is a juggernaut. We'll learn a lot about James Franklin's Penn State this year (though the QB situation is a mess). Michigan, despite the criticism, is a pretty solid program. Schiano will have Rutgers competitive in short order.

I'd imagine they'll finish between second and fifth (of seven) in the division for the foreseeable future. Allen's done incredible work, and the program seems to be on solid ground, but I actually think going from 7/8 wins a year to 10/11 wins a year is much harder than getting out of the cellar.


Who's talking about 10/11 wins a year? I think most fans are elated at the prospect of winning 7/8 times a year. Baby steps.
I'm definitely hearing some talk from the fans who's expectations are through the roof and I could definitely see some fans being disappointed in "only" 7 wins. I agree with Mr. Doran, as hard as this past climb has been, the next step's likely even tougher. The one thing Tom Allen's been able to establish that they've been missing for at least the 25 years I've been following the team and likely longer is that even if IU plateaus a little bit here, it's a safe plateau from where they were before.
Prior to Allen coming on board, it felt like every coach was coming into the program at the bottom and had to make every step a perfect one in order for IU to get to where it could consistently compete with the big boys in the division/conference. Any misstep, any failure in recruiting, any player who just didn't pan out, and IU could kiss its chances at 9-10 wins goodbye for another 2 years. At least.
Now, it feels like even if IU fails to meet expectations, this season. All is not lost. For one thing, failing to meet expectations is now 6-7 wins, not 2-3. For another thing, while this senior class has the potential to be pretty special, there's a ton of depth up and down the roster. You can really see where the talent of the recruiting classes has improved year after year after year. Plus with the ability to recruit the transfer portal, it's much easier to plug holes where needed.

[Assembly Hall]

Current recruiting rankings for '22: https://247sports.com/Season/2022-Football/CompositeTeamRankings/

[Assembly Hall]

Sampson enters the portal...

https://indiana.rivals.com/news/running-back-sampson-james-enters-transfer-portal

[Hoosier Red]

Sampson enters the portal...

https://indiana.rivals.com/news/running-back-sampson-james-enters-transfer-portal

That's too bad.
Much though I'd like to cast aspersions, instead I'll remember him coming up absolutely huge the one day we needed him to and helping win the bucket in 2019.

[Assembly Hall]

That's too bad.
Much though I'd like to cast aspersions, instead I'll remember him coming up absolutely huge the one day we needed him to and helping win the bucket in 2019.

True and I surmise this guy is some of the reason he left:

https://www.thedailyhoosier.com/iu-football-running-back-stephen-carr-ascending-the-depth-chart/

[Boston Red]

I'm not particularly a fan of either program, but I'm looking forward to the Cincinnati/Indiana game next month. It's always nice to see programs who have not had as much success in the past rise up in the rankings so it's not the same teams all the time. All the better to have two of them on the field at the same time.

[adkindo]

Current recruiting rankings for '22: https://247sports.com/Season/2022-Football/CompositeTeamRankings/

better add some commitments....slipping in the rankings. (fwiw, WVU is also in recent weeks)

[Assembly Hall]

I'm not particularly a fan of either program, but I'm looking forward to the Cincinnati/Indiana game next month. It's always nice to see programs who have not had as much success in the past rise up in the rankings so it's not the same teams all the time. All the better to have two of them on the field at the same time.

I remember when they played in '92. Basketball that is! But yeah, great year for them to match up on the gridiron.

[Assembly Hall]

better add some commitments....slipping in the rankings. (fwiw, WVU is also in recent weeks)

TBH, I really don't know how big this class is supposed to be.

[adkindo]

TBH, I really don't know how big this class is supposed to be.

yes....a reason why I do not think the 247 Total Composite is that relevant anymore. Penn State already has 24 commitments, and my understanding is that WVU will not go over 19-20 in this class. I think the average score per commitment is more relevant. For example, WVU is ahead of IU....but only because we have 17 commitments and IU has 14. IU has a higher average score per commitment which in my mind suggests they have the superior recruiting class.

Not sure if you saw the news yesterday, but it looks like the NCAA is finally going to update the rules to allow teams to go over 25 limit each year to replace players that exit in the portal. That will normalize classes again as teams will likely return to classes of 22-25 high school players.

[GAC]

Will be interesting to see how QB Penix does. He's a talent.

[Assembly Hall]

Will be interesting to see how QB Penix does. He's a talent.

I just hope he stays healthy. Thus far he has been injury prone.

[UKWhoDey]

Is there any interest on IU's end to renew the football series with us?

[Assembly Hall]

Is there any interest on IU's end to renew the football series with us?

The IU fans I know, including myself, want UK back on the football schedule.

[adkindo]

The IU fans I know, including myself, want UK back on the football schedule.

no, they are not part of The Alliance.....;)

[Assembly Hall]

no, they are not part of The Alliance.....;)

lol...IU will be playing Louisville in a couple of years. Already scheduled.

[adkindo]

lol...IU will be playing Louisville in a couple of years. Already scheduled.

yeah, I know....I was just making fun of some of the earlier reports or more like message board claims that the group would not schedule SEC teams.....like FSU is not going to play UF, Ga. Tech and UGA, Clemson and South Carolina. Refusing to schedule between the Alliance and the SEC benefits no school. Maybe Alliance members take other Alliance members calls first, but they are not ignoring SEC calls.

[Assembly Hall]

yeah, I know....I was just making fun of some of the earlier reports or more like message board claims that the group would not schedule SEC teams.....like FSU is not going to play UF, Ga. Tech and UGA, Clemson and South Carolina. Refusing to schedule between the Alliance and the SEC benefits no school. Maybe Alliance members take other Alliance members calls first, but they are not ignoring SEC calls.

I do not know about any of that...nor do I care. LOL But IU/UK ain't a football thing...it is about basketball. We have a bond with them on the court...but for so many years it was a great rivalry on the gridiron as well.

[Assembly Hall]

Nice read on Hendershot...

https://www.thedailyhoosier.com/everything-finally-seems-just-right-for-iu-football-tight-end-peyton-hendershot/

[RedTeamGo!]

Dasan McCullough right now: “uhhhhhhhh dad, can I check to see if my OSU offer is still available?”

[Assembly Hall]

We suck

[adkindo]

We suck

I expected the score to be much tighter....but I did not get to watch the game. It was on Big10 Network?

I looked at box score and while Penix numbers were really bad, it was hard to figure out how Iowa put up 34 with their very mediocre offensive production.

[Assembly Hall]

I expected the score to be much tighter....but I did not get to watch the game. It was on Big10 Network?

I looked at box score and while Penix numbers were really bad, it was hard to figure out how Iowa put up 34 with their very mediocre offensive production.

Honestly, I was fishing all day Saturday(and yesterday for that matter) so I have not seen the game yet. But it was on the BTN. Once I "dissect" it I am sure the conclusion will be "we suck."

[Revering4Blue]

To avoid "cluttering' the general college football board with endless IU football debate, I'll respond to this post here:


I get the point you are making about why that is the worst loss, however, I think Indiana clearly had the worst loss yesterday. Indiana fans and the program spent the entire offseason beating their chests, saying they were one of the best teams in the country with one of the best head coaches in the country and one of the best QBs in the country. They got complete manhandled by a likely solid Iowa team, but nothing special. Penix had a horrendous game. All of that goodwill from last season is bye-bye.

First, I wholeheartedly agree with this:


I think Indiana clearly had the worst loss yesterday. They got complete manhandled by a likely solid Iowa team, but nothing special. Penix had a horrendous game. All of that goodwill from last season is bye-bye.

However, I take exception to the following:


Indiana fans and the program spent the entire offseason beating their chests, saying they were one of the best teams in the country with one of the best head coaches in the country and one of the best QBs in the country.

I don't recall Redzoners stating anything along those lines - granted, I may have overlooked such comments - so perhaps you are referring to external comments on the matter.

I can tell you that I, for one, never allowed the expectations for this season and the program - perennial divisional challengers to OSU - to reach such an unrealistic level. Take last season, for instance: They likely lose by a greater margin (though I'm suggesting they'd have been blown out) in a 'normal' season in Columbus with a full stadium of fans. And it's highly doubtful that they win at a packed Camp Randall Stadium with Tuttle, a game manager, at QB.

Honestly - and I've mentioned this before - my realistic expectation for this program as a comp: Pat Fitzgerald's Northwestern Wildcats program. You generally go bowling every year, with an occasional shot at a high profile bowl.

And as far as the assumption of Tom Allen as an elite coach - and this is not directed at you and actually supports your point - that's a stretch. Allen's obvious strength is his ability to motivate his players (that's not in question) but IMHO, he needs quality coordinators to assist with the Xs and Os for his program to reach my aforementioned expectations for the program. The departed Kane Wommack (DC) and (OC) Kalen DeBoer, for example. The latter, a bigger loss than most realize.

[Assembly Hall]

To avoid "cluttering' the general college football board with endless IU football debate, I'll respond to this post here:



First, I wholeheartedly agree with this:



However, I take exception to the following:



I don't recall Redzoners stating anything along those lines - granted, I may have overlooked such comments - so perhaps you are referring to external comments on the matter.

I can tell you that I, for one, never allowed the expectations for this season and the program - perennial divisional challengers to OSU - to reach such an unrealistic level. Take last season, for instance: They likely lose by a greater margin (though I'm suggesting they'd have been blown out) in a 'normal' season in Columbus with a full stadium of fans. And it's highly doubtful that they win at a packed Camp Randall Stadium with Tuttle, a game manager, at QB.

Honestly - and I've mentioned this before - my realistic expectation for this program as a comp: Pat Fitzgerald's Northwestern Wildcats program. You generally go bowling every year, with an occasional shot at a high profile bowl.

And as far as the assumption of Tom Allen as an elite coach - and this is not directed at you and actually supports your point - that's a stretch. Allen's obvious strength is his ability to motivate his players (that's not in question) but IMHO, he needs quality coordinators to assist with the Xs and Os for his program to reach my aforementioned expectations for the program. The departed Kane Wommack (DC) and (OC) Kalen DeBoer, for example. The latter, a bigger loss than most realize.

Nice post and thank you.

And I will never, and I repeat never, forget who made that comment you responded to.

Go Hoosiers.

[Revering4Blue]

Nice post and thank you.

And I will never, and I repeat never, forget who made that comment you responded to.

Go Hoosiers.You're welcome.

RTG is a good guy, but I just happen to disagree with him here.

We'll see if they bounce back in a big way tonight.

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[RedTeamGo!]

Nice post and thank you.

And I will never, and I repeat never, forget who made that comment you responded to.

Go Hoosiers.

I didn’t mean to offend any Hoosiers fans, and sorry if I did offend you. Just giving my honest take, this isn’t the only place I talk and read college football stuff. That was in the general CFB thread, not Hoosier thread.

[Assembly Hall]

21-0 Hoosiers late 1st quarter.

[adkindo]

Cooper had a good game this week....

https://twitter.com/lnwildcats/status/1437542545685417986

[Assembly Hall]

The Hoosiers will be lucky to go 6-6...

[Revering4Blue]

The Hoosiers will be lucky to go 6-6...

We've all seen this movie - including the unhappy ending - far too many times over the years in 'statement' games/seasons.

And UC has the QB that we all wish Penix Jr. had become. Personally, I'm ready for the Donaven McCulley as QB era to begin.

[Assembly Hall]

Close one in Bowling Green.

[Assembly Hall]

The Hoosiers will be lucky to go 6-6...

Damn lucky...

[Assembly Hall]

Penix out indefinitely.

[Assembly Hall]

Sheridan fired.

[Playadlc]

Sheridan fired.

Necessary move. He was truly horrible at his job.

While I prefer some version of the air raid here, I just want someone that has had success with lesser talent.

It’s really all I care about.

[adkindo]

Looks like Walt Bell in the new OC hire.

[Revering4Blue]

Looks like Walt Bell in the new OC hire.I'm fine with this hire. Cannot hold his UMass HC tenure against him at all. I'm still surprised the OL coach has been retained. Unless the OL play improves, the offense will fail to improve appreciably IMO.

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[adkindo]

I'm fine with this hire. Cannot hold his UMass HC tenure against him at all. I'm still surprised the OL coach has been retained. Unless the OL play improves, the offense will fail to improve appreciably IMO.

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Honestly, I do not really get the hire. His offenses were not good at Maryland or FSU. It has been nearly a decade since he had a good offense, and that was at Arkansas State in a much weaker version of the Sun Belt.

[Revering4Blue]

Honestly, I do not really get the hire. His offenses were not good at Maryland or FSU. It has been nearly a decade since he had a good offense, and that was at Arkansas State in a much weaker version of the Sun Belt.Maryland lit up Texas like a Christmas tree in Austin (50 plus points) in 2017. Then, they were down to their fourth string qb in no time. FSU was a mess in '18 from top to bottom, IIRC. And he favors up-tempo offenses. It may or may not work out, we'll see.

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[Assembly Hall]

Hoosiers have been pretty active in the portal. Both ways.

[GAC]

I didn't follow Indiana as much this year as last. QB Penix was a disappointment, but can't keep from getting hurt. They gave both Cincinnati and Michigan State tough games too.

[Assembly Hall]

I didn't follow Indiana as much this year as last. QB Penix was a disappointment, but can't keep from getting hurt. They gave both Cincinnati and Michigan State tough games too.

Penix has entered the portal.

[Sea Ray]

Penix has entered the portal.

How much eligibility does he have left?

[adkindo]

How much eligibility does he have left?

I think officially 2 years to play 1 season.....but not sure if he qualifies to apply for a medical red shirt

[Assembly Hall]

Penix is RS-JR. He took a medical RS his frosh season.

[Assembly Hall]

Hoosiers land Auburn RB Shaun Shivers...

https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/auburn-football/shaun-shivers-announces-transfer-destination-from-auburn/

[adkindo]

Cooper did not sign.....claims will wait until Feb. so he can talk to new OC. Maybe it all goes smooth, but I would expect many programs see it as a sign to try to flip him.

[Assembly Hall]

Cooper did not sign.....claims will wait until Feb. so he can talk to new OC. Maybe it all goes smooth, but I would expect many programs see it as a sign to try to flip him.

Rumors are that Notre Dame is hot on the trail.

[Assembly Hall]

Omar Cooper signs with the Hoosiers. Sorry adkindo.

[Revering4Blue]

I figured Idaho would hang around after they nearly beat Washington State on the road. I’ll just take the two wins. WKU will be a real test, even at home.

One thing’s for sure: Walt Bell is infinitely better at his job than his predecessor.


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[Assembly Hall]

I figured Idaho would hang around after they nearly beat Washington State on the road. I’ll just take the two wins. WKU will be a real test, even at home.

One thing’s for sure: Walt Bell is infinitely better at his job than his predecessor.


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I would be beyond elated if IU were to make a bowl this year.

[Assembly Hall]

Grades and notes: https://www.thedailyhoosier.com/iu-football-week-two-and-season-to-date-pff-grades-and-notes/

[Assembly Hall]

Another ugly win. 3-0.

[Revering4Blue]

Another ugly win. 3-0.

They keep coming back. They used to consistently lose games like the first three in the Cameron and Lynch years.

Now, a real road test against Cincy, who’s favored by 16.5 points.


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[GAC]

I took Indiana and the 15.5 points! :D

[GAC]

A little off topic, but I have a question for my Hoosier friends. The wife and I are planning a little 2 day trip to Brown Co. Indiana. We live in west-central Ohio, and it's about a 2 1/2 drive. For years I've heard a lot about this region, especially in the Fall when the leaves change, and a beautiful area to visit. I guess a lot of artists go there to paint. I guess Nashville is popular, and there's also a state park. Any info you can give me would be appreciated.

[Assembly Hall]

A little off topic, but I have a question for my Hoosier friends. The wife and I are planning a little 2 day trip to Brown Co. Indiana. We live in west-central Ohio, and it's about a 2 1/2 drive. For years I've heard a lot about this region, especially in the Fall when the leaves change, and a beautiful area to visit. I guess a lot of artists go there to paint. I guess Nashville is popular, and there's also a state park. Any info you can give me would be appreciated.

I wish I could help but I can't. You are closer to the area than I am. Most of my time spent in the area was for work not leisure. Hopefully someone here can help you out. Hope you have a great time.

[Roy Tucker]

A little off topic, but I have a question for my Hoosier friends. The wife and I are planning a little 2 day trip to Brown Co. Indiana. We live in west-central Ohio, and it's about a 2 1/2 drive. For years I've heard a lot about this region, especially in the Fall when the leaves change, and a beautiful area to visit. I guess a lot of artists go there to paint. I guess Nashville is popular, and there's also a state park. Any info you can give me would be appreciated.

We’ve been there once for a fall visit. We stayed downtown at the Artists Colony Inn & Restaurant which was nice. Plus it was smack dab in the middle of downtown Nashville. We spent a day just walking the town going to the bazillion arts and crafts oriented stores there. There was a lot of junk but also some nice pure art things. I think there was a nighttime parade which was cool. Outside of town there are some good vineyards (we are wine people). Just google vineyards brown county.

Rooms may be harder to come by now. They get booked up fast for the fall.

[Roy Tucker]

We’ve also been to Madison IN (nice Ohio River town) and Columbus IN (a real hidden gem of an architecture city, some really amazing buildings).

[Sea Ray]

I took Indiana and the 15.5 points! :D

You needed more than that

[Sea Ray]

Hoosier fans, what can you tell me about kicker Charles Campbell?

https://www.knoxnews.com/story/sports/college/university-of-tennessee/football/2022/12/07/charles-campbell-tennessee-football-transfer-indiana-kicker/69696007007/

[Assembly Hall]

Hoosier fans, what can you tell me about kicker Charles Campbell?

https://www.knoxnews.com/story/sports/college/university-of-tennessee/football/2022/12/07/charles-campbell-tennessee-football-transfer-indiana-kicker/69696007007/

The Vols got a good one.

[Sea Ray]

IU is getting a QB from Tennessee

https://www.thedailyhoosier.com/transfer-qb-tayven-jackson-commits-to-iu-football/

He played sparingly this year as Tennessee's 3rd string QB, and he was looking at being 3rd string again this year too, hence his transfer. The Vols have a 5* guy coming in this year from California who's getting a $2mill/yr NIL deal so Jackson kinda sees the writing on the wall. If they want to hold off that guy and redshirt him, perhaps Jackson may play as a #2 but still. In limited play he looked pretty good and is athletic. Best of luck to him in Bloomington.

[Assembly Hall]

IU is getting a QB from Tennessee

https://www.thedailyhoosier.com/transfer-qb-tayven-jackson-commits-to-iu-football/

He played sparingly this year as Tennessee's 3rd string QB, and he was looking at being 3rd string again this year too, hence his transfer. The Vols have a 5* guy coming in this year from California who's getting a $2mill/yr NIL deal so Jackson kinda sees the writing on the wall. If they want to hold off that guy and redshirt him, perhaps Jackson may play as a #2 but still. In limited play he looked pretty good and is athletic. Best of luck to him in Bloomington.

Hoosiers fans are excited to get him.