5-8-21 Reds @ Indians 6:10pm

[Ron Madden]

Reds
1. Nick Senzel (R) CF
2. Jesse Winker (L) DH
3. Nick Castellanos (R) RF
4. Mike Moustakas (L) 1B
5. Eugenio Suarez (R) 3B
6. Tyler Naquin (L) LF
7. Tyler Stephenson (R) C
8. Kyle Farmer (R) SS
9. Jonathan India (R) 2B
SP Luis Castillo (R)


Indians
1. Cesar Hernandez (S) 2B
2. Amed Rosario (R) CF
3. Jose Ramirez (S) 3B
4. Eddie Rosario (L) LF
5. Franmil Reyes (R) DH
6. Josh Naylor (L) RF
7. Jake Bauers (L) 1B
8. Austin Hedges (R) C
9. Andres Gimenez (L) SS
SP Aaron Civale (R)

[BuckeyeRed27]

My antibodies and I are going to the game, can’t wait!

[757690]

Looks like Farmer is the Reds starting SS at least until Votto comes back.

[Ron Madden]

Bobby Nightengale
@nightengalejr
Reds pitchers enter tonight with a 20-inning scoreless streak after back-to-back shutouts. The last time Reds pitchers had three consecutive shutouts, per the game notes, was June 21-23, 1963 vs. Houston.

[Coopdaddy67]

I'd rather have Shogo playing over Naquin.

[jwdoc77]

I'd rather have Shogo playing over Naquin.

My guess is they ease Shogo back into it after the injury.

[JaxRed]

I'd rather have Shogo playing over Naquin.

I'm relatively neutral. In the long run I think Naquin will be better than Shogo, but people need to see Shogo to see what is he is this year. They are hoping they will get the Shogo of September.

But it appears Bell refuses to sit Suarez and is going to play Farmer at SS ensuring we get two of the worst bats on the team playing every game. I'd start swapping them out, game by game to see if anyone can start hitting. In other words, Suarez or Farmer, but not both.

So I would put Moose at 3rd, and Tucker at 1b.

[WrongVerb]

Anyone else worried that the high today in Cleveland is only 52? Castillo doesn't do well in cold weather.

[JaxRed]

Yes, plus the fact he's the worst of our 5 starters right now.

[SomeCallMeTim]

Anyone else worried that the high today in Cleveland is only 52? Castillo doesn't do well in cold weather.

Definitely a concern that I share.

I personally think its more of the lack or heat/humiditys positive effect on breaking stuff.

Low 50’s isn’t mild, but its not sleet pebbles either. Shouldn’t be as painfully cold as Opening Day or sleetstorm 2021...

[goreds2]

Ok, I will jinx us. Indians will be no hit again tonight. :evil:

[SomeCallMeTim]

Ok, I will jinx us. Indians will be no hit again tonight. :evil:

I would settle for just keeping the scoreless streak going. (pitching of course)

Time for the O to get off the mat...

[DocRed]

Looks like Farmer is the Reds starting SS at least until Votto comes back.

I have no problem bringing him in late in games for D but everyday?

Yuck..

Plus Civale is a righty. A lefty I get it...sit Shogo and play Farmer fine. Unless Civale has weird reverse splits or sumfin.

EDIT: Just looked it up and Civale does have reverse splits! RHB .758 OPS and LHB .660. OK I feel better now....

[KeefeCato]

Castillo is more than capable of keeping the streak alive. He is due for a great game as well.

[KeefeCato]

Castillo is more than capable of keeping the scoreless streak alive. He is due for a great game as well.

[NatiRedGals]

Looks like Farmer is the Reds starting SS at least until Votto comes back.

Nooooooooooooooooooo

[SomeCallMeTim]

Nooooooooooooooooooo

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We all agree...

[Kc61]

Agree with the decision to play Farmer at short again with Castillo on the mound. Luis is throwing a fair percentage of GBs this year, he deserves a competent defensive shortstop. (India good at second too.)

I don’t care to boo the backups, guy is earning $640,000, does a professional job in his better areas, defense, hitting lefties, versatility. Obviously in there for defense tonight. More concerned with highly paid starters who don’t produce sufficiently, we see them from time to time.

[NatiRedGals]

Agree with the decision to play Farmer at short again with Castillo on the mound. Luis is throwing a fair percentage of GBs this year, he deserves a competent defensive shortstop. (India good at second too.)

I don’t care to boo the backups, guy is earning $640,000, does a professional job in his better areas, defense, hitting lefties, versatility. Obviously in there for defense tonight. More concerned with highly paid starters who don’t produce sufficiently, we see them from time to time.

If we're doing it because he's good for defense I'd be OK with Garcia

[Kc61]

If we're doing it because he's good for defense I'd be OK with Garcia

But the Reds want Garcia to become a better hitter and a starting caliber player. So they are declining to rush him again. Hard to see what’s wrong with that decision.

We have a starting guy in the middle of the lineup every night hitting .135. I suggest that’s much more of a problem than a temporary gig for backup Farmer at shortstop.

[757690]

But the Reds want Garcia to become a better hitter and a starting caliber player. So they are declining to rush him again. Hard to see what’s wrong with that decision.

We have a starting guy in the middle of the lineup every night hitting .135. I suggest that’s much more of a problem than a temporary gig for backup Farmer at shortstop.

Challenge Thy Hitters

[TexasRedsFan]

I'm also greatly concerned about Moustakas. His bat has only been better than Suarez's in that he's made more contact.

Hopefully by saying that, I've ensured both have a 4 hit game.

[Kc61]

Challenge Thy Hitters

They did. .194/.206/.194/.400.

[757690]

They did. .194/.206/.194/.400.

Failure is an inherent part of challenging the hitters.

Besides, this is what he’s replacing: 182/.297/.273/.570.

[SomeCallMeTim]

I'm also greatly concerned about Moustakas. His bat has only been better than Suarez's in that he's made more contact.

Hopefully by saying that, I've ensured both have a 4 hit game.

I give Moose a pass as he still may be shaking off his illness. It’s the cure for Suarez they need to find...

[jwdoc77]

Challenge Thy Hitters

They did last year...didn’t go so well. Let him get his feet under him before challenging him again.

[Kc61]

Failure is an inherent part of challenging the hitters.

Besides, this is what he’s replacing: 182/.297/.273/.570.

.570 is better than .400. And lifetime Farmer is .653, also better than .400 OPS.

Besides, inherent or not, failure isn’t a desirable outcome. Garcia’s down in the minors getting ready to succeed. Sounds like a plan.

[Mitri]

I think it's fine if they want to give Garcia another month or two in the minors. Garcia has a chance to be special, hopefully they don't muck it up. The same goes for Greene (and Lodolo to an extent). Be patient and good things will come.

[757690]

.570 is better than .400. And lifetime Farmer is .653, also better than .400 OPS.

Besides, inherent or not, failure isn’t a desirable outcome. Garcia’s down in the minors getting ready to succeed. Sounds like a plan.

Garcia only has 24 games under his belt. You can’t compare his “lifetime” to Farmer’s.

And that’s the key point. Giving up after 24 games is not challenging the hitter, it’s defy’s the very definition of challenging the hitter. So, no, the Reds did not challenge Garcia last year. They played him for a month, then gave up on him.

The history of MLB reveals that hitters, unlike pitchers, that are rushed generally do not have setbacks. There is little harm to the development of a hitter by rushing him, the data is quite clear on this.

[SomeCallMeTim]

OK. Tonights contest: What happens first?

Indians get a hit.
Reds get a run.

[WildcatFan]

Why did I think that Cleveland had gotten rid of the Indians nickname this season? Did I dream that?

[SomeCallMeTim]

Why did I think that Cleveland had gotten rid of the Indians nickname this season? Did I dream that?

Just the stereotyped Chief Wahoo images I think they’ve dropped.

It was the Washington Football team change or dropped their team name.

Won’t the Braves have to do the same if the Indians are pressured to. Too me the Tomahawk chop is just as bad to see more than the nicknames.

[Red Raindog]

Walks will haunt


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[JFLegal]

terrible defense there. no way he should have scored.

[JFLegal]

but of course castillo is shaky as usual. and that is the biggest problem.

[BluegrassRedleg]

Castillo can stop being terrible any time now. Please.

[RollyInRaleigh]

Castillo is soft. He’s got to be better.


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[TheBigLebowski]

His windup is not replicable right now. Hasn’t been all year. He pulls off the offspeed stuff and he has a different release point and arm angle with seemingly every fastball. His ball still tails but he can’t place it.

[Tom Servo]

Nice hitting from Naquin and Stephenson

[JFLegal]

farmer can't hit.

[JFLegal]

even when he squares one up, it doesn't even go to the track. kyle farmer is a AAA player.

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he shall be known as kyle faaarmer.

[JFLegal]

castillo needs to see a sports psychologist.

he's a complete headcase.

[TheBigLebowski]

It may be time for he and Tejay to switch roles. They can’t keep trotting him out there every 5th day

[JFLegal]

tyler naquin WTH?

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you know indians fans are loving seeing naquin drop a ball like he's a 1st grade t-baller.

[Red Raindog]

Now that is pathetically bad defense from Naquin


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[JFLegal]

turrible. 2-0 tribe.

[Coopdaddy67]

It may be time for he and Tejay to switch roles. They can’t keep trotting him out there every 5th day

Moving Castillo out of the rotation might be the dumbest thing they could do.

[JFLegal]

when castillo needs a K ... he can't get it.

what happened to this guy?

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Moving Castillo out of the rotation might be the dumbest thing they could do.

i agree with this. but when did luis castillo go from "potential ace" to "JAG"?

because, he's a hella lot closer to being just a guy than he is an ace.

[757690]

He’s lost the ability to get swings and misses, especially on the changeup.

[TheBigLebowski]

Moving Castillo out of the rotation might be the dumbest thing they could do.

So just claim to be contending and put a huge liability on the mound every 5th day? They have to do something. He’s obviously not fixing his issues.

[JFLegal]

never thought i'd see castillo turn into a mediocre pitcher.

[SomeCallMeTim]

castillo needs to see a sports psychologist.

he's a complete headcase.

This.

Last night we saw a focused professional.

Castillo isn’t earning his pay anymore.

[Kc61]

Garcia only has 24 games under his belt. You can’t compare his “lifetime” to Farmer’s.

And that’s the key point. Giving up after 24 games is not challenging the hitter, it’s defy’s the very definition of challenging the hitter. So, no, the Reds did not challenge Garcia last year. They played him for a month, then gave up on him.

The history of MLB reveals that hitters, unlike pitchers, that are rushed generally do not have setbacks. There is little harm to the development of a hitter by rushing him, the data is quite clear on this.

Garcia just turned 23. He hit .400 OPS in 68 major league PAs last year. The Reds, who know him best, decided he needed minor league work. So much so that he went to AA, not AAA.

You point to nothing to show that Garcia is more likely to succeed in MLB now than he was last summer. I’ll go with the Reds’ call on this.

[NebraskaRed]

I'm not defending Castillo, there are some issues with him that clearly aren't being addressed, but reading this thread, you'd think the Reds were down 10-0.

[Tony Cloninger]

So now we have 2 players in need of Dr Freud or Dr Ruth?

[Coopdaddy67]

So just claim to be contending and put a huge liability on the mound every 5th day? They have to do something. He’s obviously not fixing his issues.

He's given up a run tonight. A brutal error led to another.

Some of you need to relax.

[Tony Cloninger]

I'm not defending Castillo, there are some issues with him that clearly aren't being addressed, but reading this thread, you'd think the Reds were down 10-0.

Man this is Reds Zone. You’re down 2-0 after 3 it’s game over. Changes need to be made now. Not wasting my day watching this team no chance.

[NebraskaRed]

Man this is Reds Zone. You’re down 2-0 after 3 it’s game over. Changes need to be made now. Not wasting my day watching this team no chance.

Ok, don't watch.

[REDREAD]

He’s lost the ability to get swings and misses, especially on the changeup.

Welsh had an interesting observation.. The league has figured out that when it's low, it tends to be a change, and they lay off.
He was saying that Castillo needs to throw other pitches in that location.. <paraphrased, but that's the gist of what he said>

[SomeCallMeTim]

Watching Jesse Winker hit is worth any streaming or cable bill.

[Red Raindog]

He's given up a run tonight. A brutal error led to another.

Some of you need to relax.

True
But walking the lead off hitter was a major factor


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[REDREAD]

Ok, don't watch.

I think Tony was being sarcastic, making fun of people that give up after 3 innings.

[KeefeCato]

Come on Nick

[REDREAD]

ok, Reds, bases loaded, 1 out.. we have to get at least one run back here.. right?

[KeefeCato]

Come on Moose.

[TheBigLebowski]

He's given up a run tonight. A brutal error led to another.

Some of you need to relax.

Whatever, my man. He’s been struggling all year and he looks bad again today. I don’t see any over the top reactions. And so what if a couple are, anyway? It’s a message board. This is hardly the council of elders.

You could use sone relaxing if a few people on a message board discussing their team, with the occasional splash of hyperbole works you into a lather.

[NebraskaRed]

I think Tony was being sarcastic, making fun of people that give up after 3 innings.

Ah, I'm an idiot.

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[REDREAD]

yay Sac fly by Moose :)

[Kc61]

Would be a nice time for Suarez to add a couple of points to that BA/OPS situation.

[TheBigLebowski]

I think Tony was being sarcastic, making fun of people that give up after 3 innings.

It’s so much more fulfilling to take every chance to condescend.

[757690]

Garcia just turned 23. He hit .400 OPS in 68 major league PAs last year. The Reds, who know him best, decided he needed minor league work. So much so that he went to AA, not AAA.

You point to nothing to show that Garcia is more likely to succeed in MLB now than he was last summer. I’ll go with the Reds’ call on this.

I’m not trying to show that Garcia will succeed in MLB now as a hitter. I want the Reds to let Garcia develop at the MLB level as a hitter, while providing the solid defense they desperately need. Playing Farmer at SS provides no upside. He can’t hit, he’s an okay, but not above average fielder, and he’s 30.

[Tony Cloninger]

Ok, don't watch.

Yea. I was being sarcastic. Now I’m going to watch it even harder.

[REDREAD]

Well, I'm glad we got one run out of that.

[Tony Cloninger]

Ah, I'm an idiot.

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Care for some...........Football in the groin??

[Coopdaddy67]

Whatever, my man. He’s been struggling all year and he looks bad again today. I don’t see any over the top reactions. And so what if a couple are, anyway? It’s a message board. This is hardly the council of elders.

You could use sone relaxing if a few people on a message board discussing their team, with the occasional splash of hyperbole, works you into a lather.

I'm quite relaxed.

You literally just said to take him out of the rotation and put Antone in. I was simply pointing out how stupid that would be.

[Tony Cloninger]

It’s so much more fulfilling to take every chance to condescend.


Just take it easy man.

[REDREAD]

1-2-3 for Castillo. :)

[NebraskaRed]

Much better inning for Castillo

[Coopdaddy67]

Nice, quick inning.

He needed that to keep the pitch count down.

[Kc61]

I’m not trying to show that Garcia will succeed in MLB now as a hitter. I want the Reds to let Garcia develop at the MLB level as a hitter, while providing the solid defense they desperately need. Playing Farmer at SS provides no upside. He can’t hit, he’s an okay, but not above average fielder, and he’s 30.

Bring up Garcia when there’s evidence that he’s ready. You can’t supply that evidence. There is no such evidence.

The Reds think his development should be in the high minors, nothing you have said proves otherwise.

[SomeCallMeTim]

I’m not trying to show that Garcia will succeed in MLB now as a hitter. I want the Reds to let Garcia develop at the MLB level as a hitter, while providing the solid defense they desperately need. Playing Farmer at SS provides no upside. He can’t hit, he’s an okay, but not above average fielder, and he’s 30.

I post this question in the Suarez thread and I agree with this. At what point does the combination of negative D and low offense not make the Reds consider this.

If Farmer and Suarez are going to continue to hit like Belangers and Mendozas, why not get Garcia up for his glove? At least improve this team on one side of the WAR equation.

[Kc61]

O
I post this question in the Suarez thread and I agree with this. At what point does the combination of negative D and low offense.

If Farmer and Suarez are going to continue to hit like Belangers and Mendozas, why not get Garcia up for his glove? At least improve this team on one side of the WAR equation.

Because the Reds want him to develop as a complete player in the minor leagues. That’s how Reds get full value from the player. They have an investment in him and that’s how they plan to maximize it.

Another hit for Farmer. Two in the series.

[Tony Cloninger]

I wish Antone was in the rotation for Hoffman. The Hoff looks like a he could be a 2 inning reliever. Doesn’t last 3rd time around. The key will be who can stand out in AAA to help the bullpen.

[REDREAD]

O

Because the Reds want him to develop as a complete player in the minor leagues. That’s how you get full value from the player. They have an investment in him and that’s how they plan to maximize it.
.

Yes, I agree. Let's don't waste a year or two of Garcia by rushing him up.
It's not as if Garcia is the missing piece to making this team a contender, IMO.
I concede that maybe Garcia over Farmer MIGHT make a slight difference, but maybe not. Garcia was really overmatched at the plate. Farmer is adequate at SS.

[757690]

Bring up Garcia when there’s evidence that he’s ready. You can’t supply that evidence. There is no such evidence.

The Reds think his development should be in the high minors, nothing you have said proves otherwise.

1.118 OPS so far.

But my argument is that it doesn’t matter if he’s ready.

We’ve both said our peace. Moving on.

[REDREAD]

wow, only 14 members on the game thread? Kind of early in the year for that :(

[zigbeenuthouse]

Enjoying Arroyo on Radio. GREAT STORIES....doing very well.

[Stray]

Crazy how hittable Castillo is this year

[757690]

It seems this entire year the word I keep hearing when Castillo pitches: “hittable.”

[KeefeCato]

wow, only 14 members on the game thread? Kind of early in the year for that :(

Here just not saying much. Can't believe Castillo has been so bad this year. Indians lineup bottom feeders as well.

[REDREAD]

So after I call Farmer "adequate", he makes a dumb error.

[TheBigLebowski]

Just take it easy man.

Calmer than you are.

[InsaneinthBrame]

Not sure why people are surprised by Castillo's struggles. He has done this through out his career. There will be a stretch or 2 later in the year where he will be lights out.

[SomeCallMeTim]

It seems this entire year the word I keep hearing when Castillo pitches: “hittable.”

Yep. And there is conclusive video evidence to support it against a team that went hitless last night.

[JFLegal]

luis 'mental midget' castillo.

[TheBigLebowski]

So after I call Farmer "adequate", he makes a dumb error.

Farmer isn’t going to Cooperstown, but he’s a fantastic guy to have on a roster. Passable hitter, plays multiple key positions relatively well, doesn’t cost much. I’ll take a Kyle Farmer on my 24 man every year.

[Stray]

ugly

[ochoa30]

Not sure why people are surprised by Castillo's struggles. He has done this through out his career. There will be a stretch or 2 later in the year where he will be lights out.

You may be right but he looks awful. Worse then I can ever remember. Can’t miss bats to save his life.

[REDREAD]

I think we all saw that coming :(

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Farmer isn’t going to Cooperstown, but he’s a fantastic guy to have on a roster. Passable hitter, plays multiple key positions relatively well, doesn’t cost much. I’ll take a Kyle Farmer on my 24 man every year.

Yea, I am glad we have Farmer too. That was just a bad time to make an error. I was just frustrated.

[Coopdaddy67]

This is why you can't just put guys all around the diamond when they're not used to and comfortable playing them.

[Alabama Red]

Really disappointing that three of our main pieces in each phase have been so bad. Castillo, Suarez and Garrett. Moustakis hasn’t been so hot either.

[SomeCallMeTim]

87 mph floater in the heart.

[NatiRedGals]

How about that farmer D!

[NebraskaRed]

You know, I kinda preferred last night's game.

[JFLegal]

castillo has been worse than hoffman by far. think about that.

[757690]

If I am the Reds, I am taking Castillo to the doctor and telling the doctor to find something physically wrong Castillo so they can put him on the DL.

[elrojo]

the mental midget just gives up a base-clearing double. ballgame.

castillo flat out sucks.

Which Reds' pitcher is more likely to give me ulcers? Castillo or Garrett?

[JFLegal]

If I am the Reds, I am taking Castillo to the doctor and telling the doctor to find something physically wrong Castillo so they can put him on the DL.

he needs to go to a doctor. but perhaps not a medical one.

[redsrule2500]

Castillo reminding me of Homer Bailey

[TheBigLebowski]

This is why you can't just put guys all around the diamond when they're not used to and comfortable playing them.

Very true, although I must admit I didn’t think Suarez would do half as well at SS as he’s done. He’s not Ozzie Smith but he’s almost passable. I guessed that little gambit would only last a week.

[757690]

castillo has been worse than hoffman by far. think about that.

Castillo has been the Reds worst pitcher and Suarez the Reds worse position player. It’s bizarro world.

[SomeCallMeTim]

Which Reds' pitcher is more likely to give me ulcers? Castillo or Garrett?

I’m afraid if I agrue to vehemently MLB will suspended my posts.

[JFLegal]

Castillo has been the Reds worst pitcher and Suarez the Reds worse position player. It’s bizarro world.

farmer is giving geno a good run for his money. no one on the pitching staff (at least the starters) is even close to castillo's futility.

[Kc61]

Is Castillo’s fastball velocity lower than in the past?

What are people seeing about his pitches that are different?

Good fastball would seem pretty important to an effective change up, which is Luis’ bread and butter.

I can’t say I’ve followed it too closely, other than watching him get routed regularly so far.

[757690]

Sadak going back to pop culture references. Zoolander Blue Steel this time.

[JFLegal]

Is Castillo’s fastball velocity lower than in the past?

What are people seeing about his pitches that are different?

Good fastball would seem pretty important to an effective change up, which is Luis’ bread and butter.

I can’t say I’ve followed it too closely, other than watching him get routed regularly so far.

we all love derek johnson. i sure love derek johnson.

but it's time we talk about how derek johnson inherited luis castillo ... and luis got worse. markedly worse, in fact.

[NatiRedGals]

Sadak going back to pop culture references. Zoolander Blue Steel this time.

I can't stand him he's annoying lol

[goreds2]

Is Castillo’s fastball velocity lower than in the past?

What are people seeing about his pitches that are different?

Good fastball would seem pretty important to an effective change up, which is Luis’ bread and butter.

I can’t say I’ve followed it too closely, other than watching him get routed regularly so far. To me it is Location Location Location.

[SomeCallMeTim]

farmer is giving geno a good run for his money. no one on the pitching staff (at least the starters) is even close to castillo's futility.

Yeah, I’m dropping my Garcia argument at SS and going to campaign for Lodolo in the rotation soon.

If Castillo is a warm weather pitcher only, we cant wait til June to have him get going.

[NebraskaRed]

Hear me out: Castillo to the IL, Blandino takes his place.

[Tony Cloninger]

Calmer than you are.

Hey man that’s just your opinion.

Did you even watch the movie?

[NatiRedGals]

The two guys we were like naquin and farmer both have errors today

[Alabama Red]

Since we’re moving everybody around the field now I’d just stick Barnhart at first while Votto is out. He’s played a few games there and Votto isn’t great over there at this stage of his career. It would also give Stephenson some time to develop behind the plate. He needs the work and at bats. India would play second every day. Senzel, Winker and Cast would play everyday. It’s not like anybody going to the bench is tearing the cover off the ball so let the future of the organization play.

[mgbrown66]

I smell another Blandino pitching appearance. Castillo, wtf?

[NebraskaRed]

Did Perez suddenly go blind after getting 2 outs?

[NatiRedGals]

I feel comfortable knowing that bell will give Castillo time to get better by pitching him every 5th day he believes in his players

[Tony Cloninger]

I say we sell low on Suarez and Castillo. It will confuse the other teams and they could give back something of value.

[757690]

I say we sell low on Suarez and Castillo. It will confuse the other teams and they could give back something of value.


https://youtu.be/y0X0ZYbnHxA

[goreds2]

Still have 4 innings to gooooo

[NebraskaRed]

Reds win this after Blandino pitches 2 shutout innings and hits a grand slam in the 9th.

Go UCLA Bruin Baseball.

[Tony Cloninger]

Go Chico State!

[JFLegal]

Reds win this after Blandino pitches 2 shutout innings and hits a grand slam in the 9th.

Go UCLA Bruin Baseball.

also, go cal berkeley baseball.

[JFLegal]

indians announcers talking about how castillo has basically turned into a bum. only three swings and misses all game for him. three!

[757690]

How was that not a double play?

[JFLegal]

i'm still sitting here stunned that castillo only threw 3 pitches all game that resulted in a swing-and-miss. that's even more unbelievable than wade 'cy' miley throwing a no-no.

[JFLegal]

how does luis castillo go from borderline great to borderline bum in this short period of time?

[DocRed]

Luis Castillo has been flat out awful this year...there is no way to sugar coat it. If this was his first year he would have been DFA'd 2 starts ago. No point to watch any more of this game.

[Bob Sheed]

Sal Romano in to save the day...

[TheBigLebowski]

Hey man that’s just your opinion.

Did you even watch the movie?

You mean did I listen to The Dude’s Story?

[KeefeCato]

Hendrix hit just a matter of time probably before Hembree is.

[NebraskaRed]

Hendrix got Castillo'd

[SomeCallMeTim]

Maybe the Reds need to be no-hit and it will jumpstart this dead offense. Seems to have worked for the Indians.

[Tony Cloninger]

Hendrix hit just a matter of time probably before Hembree is.


You mean Hemmy will actually give up runs this year?

[NebraskaRed]

Indians responded to being no-hit by getting ALL the hits.

[SomeCallMeTim]

Sal Romano in to save the day...

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[Tony Cloninger]

You mean did I listen to The Dude’s Story?

I’ll abide by that.

[DocRed]

May need to move Castillo to the Bullpen for his own good at this point.

[DocRed]

Did Stephnson slow down there??? WTF

[TheBigLebowski]

Hendrix hit just a matter of time probably before Hembree is.

Yeah. Then Fulmer will combust, likely followed by Perez (will be his 2nd) and possibly Sims. He’s got the look of an anxious powder keg. It’s why this team will never stray more than a win or two from .500.

Castillo needs one of those mysterious IL trips. Other than switching him and Antone, I have no clue what else they can do. They can’t keep running him out there.

[Alabama Red]

I’ve said for years that the Reds need a complete rebuild and I still think that. There are just not enough pieces to try and salvage something out of this. Especially with the performance of some of our key pieces this year and last. Castellanos will also opt out this year if he continues to play well.

[TheBigLebowski]

I’ll abide by that.

Take er easy for all us sinners.

[DocRed]

I’ve said for years that the Reds need a complete rebuild and I still think that. There are just not enough pieces to try and salvage something out of this. Especially with the performance of some of our key pieces this year and last. Castellanos will also opt out this year if he continues to play well.

Need to start at the top with Bob C....the guy is a cancer

[Bob Sheed]

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[goreds2]

What a terrible 3rd strike call to end the inning. Wow !!

[Alabama Red]

Need to start at the top with Bob C....the guy is a cancer
Agree 100%.

[DocRed]

What a terrible 3rd strike call to end the inning. Wow !!

Umps don't care...just want to get back to the hotel to get drunk

[Tony Cloninger]

A lot of these pitchers are throwing like they have dead arms. Did they not get enough work on ST?

I forget. Is the only reason Castellanos signed was because he was offered opt outs? The whole thing is just stupid to me.
And I never took much at all what happened last year as how he would hit this year. They better hope that he does not opt out.

[NebraskaRed]

Reds aren't going to win this. Bell should just go nuts and put Miley in at 1B, Shogo in as catcher, Blandino (aka Ukumbus) as Rosie Red, Arroyo pitches the rest of the game, Jim Day in CF.

[757690]

Umps don't care...just want to get back to the hotel to get drunk

I disagree. That implies that they are not drunk during the game.

[Tom Servo]

I like how so far this year every loss means the season is over and all hope is lost lol

[NebraskaRed]

Odds that Blandino strikesout looking?

[NebraskaRed]

Odds that Blandino strikesout looking?

That's right, I'm horrible at predicting anything.

[757690]

Reds are back to back grand slams in the ninth away from tying this game.

[Red Raindog]

Will Suarez get his average under .100?


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[NebraskaRed]

Geno is going to get that average below .100 by the end of the month.

[Alabama Red]

A lot of these pitchers are throwing like they have dead arms. Did they not get enough work on ST?

I forget. Is the only reason Castellanos signed was because he was offered opt outs? The whole thing is just stupid to me.
And I never took much at all what happened last year as how he would hit this year. They better hope that he does not opt out.
Signing Shogo and then Castellanos a few weeks later made no sense. I think NC had said no to the Reds and then he couldn’t find another deal matching what the Reds offered so he came back to them. If the Reds thought he would sign spending 21 million on Shogo to be a 4th outfielder makes no sense.

[Red Raindog]

Geno is going to get that average below .100 by the end of the month.

I think he needs to go around 0 for his next 30 to get to .100.

I think it’s doable.


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[NebraskaRed]

Pinch runner being used with an 8 run lead in the 8th inning.

[Tony Cloninger]

Signing Shogo and then Castellanos a few weeks later made no sense. I think NC had said no to the Reds and then he couldn’t find another deal matching what the Reds offered so he came back to them. If the Reds thought he would sign spending 21 million on Shogo to be a 4th outfielder makes no sense.


I forgot about Shogo being signed around the same time. However based on Senzel injury history and Bell platoon tendencies it’s not that crazy. Until they use it as an excuse to not pay for at least one other arm in the bullpen.

Senzel might end up back at 2B perm if India continues to struggle and they send him down.

[KeefeCato]

You mean Hemmy will actually give up runs this year?

Probably will end up giving up a ton.

[KeefeCato]

Offense in the tank. 5 runs last 4 games. And only 1 in 2 home games.

[NebraskaRed]

Fulmer did not get Castillo'd

[REDREAD]

Signing Shogo and then Castellanos a few weeks later made no sense. I think NC had said no to the Reds and then he couldn’t find another deal matching what the Reds offered so he came back to them. If the Reds thought he would sign spending 21 million on Shogo to be a 4th outfielder makes no sense.

Agreed. Dick Williams was desperate to win last year. In fairness to him, he had a lot of holes to fill.
I think Shogo was plan B.. but then when Shogo agreed to sign, the Reds signed him out of fear that they couldn't get anything better.
Had Castanallos signed quickly, like the day after Moose signed, I doubt they sign Shogo.
It never made sense for the Reds to pay 7 million for a 4th OF.. that's unprecented for a reasoon.

[REDREAD]

Camera caught Chang (whatever he is, pinch ran last inning) giving the arm motion that looks like he's shaking up a can of pop.. (Family board) TV went quickly to another scene lol

[KeefeCato]

Agreed. Dick Williams was desperate to win last year. In fairness to him, he had a lot of holes to fill.
I think Shogo was plan B.. but then when Shogo agreed to sign, the Reds signed him out of fear that they couldn't get anything better.
Had Castanallos signed quickly, like the day after Moose signed, I doubt they sign Shogo.
It never made sense for the Reds to pay 7 million for a 4th OF.. that's unprecented for a reasoon.

That is why I think Shogo will play over Naquin most days. The 7 Mil.

[NebraskaRed]

The comeback begins...

[Bob Sheed]

Naquin OPSing .905

[NebraskaRed]

The comeback is derailed.

[KeefeCato]

Naquin OPSing .905

Done nearly all his damage the first week of the season though.

[Tony Cloninger]

This Reds bullpen. No one can ever go 1 2 3. 1 2 3.

[Ron Madden]

Come back and get'em tomorrow.
Box Score

https://www.mlb.com/gameday/reds-vs-indians/2021/05/08/634187#game_state=final,game_tab=box,game=634187

[zigbeenuthouse]

Suarez is one of the biggest disappointments for this far into a Reds season as I can remember. He just tries too hard for one thing. He is not playing to help his team win, having fun playing, and simply reacting to pitches, or fielding, and so forth. He is trying to catch up on a horrible start with a each AB

[Ron Madden]

I like how so far this year every loss means the season is over and all hope is lost lol

It's all about Hot Takes and Overreaction...
Exactly why many long time members no longer participate in the game threads