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Ron Madden
05-11-2021, 01:52 PM
Reds
1. Nick Senzel (R) 2B
2. Jesse Winker (L) LF
3. Nick Castellanos (R) RF
4. Mike Moustakas (L) 1B
5. Tyler Naquin (L) CF
6. Eugenio Suarez (R) 3B
7. Tucker Barnhart (L) C
8. Kyle Farmer (R) SS
9. Jeff Hoffman (R) P

Pirates
1. Adam Frazier (L) 2B
2. Bryan Reynolds (S) CF
3. Phillip Evans (R) 1B
4. Jacob Stallings (R) C
5. Erik Gonzalez (R) 3B
6. Ka'ai Tom (L) LF
7. Kevin Newman (R) SS
8. Troy Stokes Jr. (R) RF
9. JT Brubaker (R) P

KeefeCato
05-11-2021, 01:54 PM
We shouldn't complain about Farmer anymore. He is hitting over .300 in games he has started this season.

CaiGuy
05-11-2021, 02:19 PM
We shouldn't complain about Farmer anymore. He is hitting over .300 in games he has started this season.

I reserve the right to complain if a 30-yo player who has hit like Billy Hamilton for his career but without the speed or defense gets to start everyday.

Puff
05-11-2021, 02:20 PM
Farmer has been pretty good defensively.

Kc61
05-11-2021, 02:25 PM
With Farmer at short and Naquin in CF, both of which seem appropriate, Senzel is now likely regularly at second.

So - I’d look for India to be optioned to get more playing time.

I’m fine with this, Naquin is really producing and Farmer has stabilized shortstop for now. When Votto comes back there will be another decision to make on the regular lineup.

RedTeamGo!
05-11-2021, 02:43 PM
With Farmer at short and Naquin in CF, both of which seem appropriate, Senzel is now likely regularly at second.

So - I’d look for India to be optioned to get more playing time.

I’m fine with this, Naquin is really producing and Farmer has stabilized shortstop for now. When Votto comes back there will be another decision to make on the regular lineup.

I think with Freeman getting called up to the taxi squad it’s inevitable India gets sent down.

Alabama Red
05-11-2021, 02:59 PM
I think this is our best lineup at this point but Geno needs to be 7th.

Ron Madden
05-11-2021, 03:36 PM
Charlie Goldsmith
@CharlieG__
Amir Garrett’s suspension has been reduced to five games.
In the meantime, the Reds will have an eight-man bullpen and a 25-player roster.

Alabama Red
05-11-2021, 04:12 PM
Should have been upheld. His antics are uncalled for and he needs to tone it down. You also need to actually be good before you trash talk another team.

GADawg
05-11-2021, 04:33 PM
Should have been upheld. His antics are uncalled for and he needs to tone it down. You also need to actually be good before you trash talk another team.

it probably shouldn't matter but i agree if he'd been dominant all season it mighta made a difference for me but as it was it was a little embarrassing or at least made me uncomfortable....I like Garrett too but I also liked me some Dietrich and Puig and both of those guys went over the top a few times and made me uncomfortable

Alf_Red_E
05-11-2021, 04:56 PM
Finally Naquin over Suarez... (I thought tink would never give up his L-R-L-R lineups)

Next up, Barnhart over Suarez

Alf_Red_E
05-11-2021, 05:03 PM
Should have been upheld. His antics are uncalled for and he needs to tone it down. You also need to actually be good before you trash talk another team.

Last year we learned that no one chirps from the dugout more than the Cubs... and several teams have issues with it... No doubt AG was over the top, but there a reason he called out the whole dugout, because I can imagine what they were giving to him earlier.

Ron Madden
05-11-2021, 05:32 PM
The Pirates lineup has been added to the original post

NebraskaRed
05-11-2021, 05:40 PM
FWIW, Brubaker is the Pirates best starter. In his worst start this year, he still only gave up 3 earned runs.

JaxRed
05-11-2021, 05:55 PM
I think with Freeman getting called up to the taxi squad it’s inevitable India gets sent down.

MLB announces new sponsorship agreement. Mike Freeman is now on the Uber Squad.

KeefeCato
05-11-2021, 06:06 PM
Brubaker has been good and with Hoffman going this will be a tough game to win Pirates or not.

KeefeCato
05-11-2021, 06:10 PM
I think with Freeman getting called up to the taxi squad it’s inevitable India gets sent down.

Is Mike Freeman the best they can do for a India replacment?

Banshee
05-11-2021, 06:29 PM
17246

NebraskaRed
05-11-2021, 06:39 PM
Cool strike zone

REDREAD
05-11-2021, 06:39 PM
According to the pregame, Reds are OPS 1.094 against the Pirates this season :lol:

Alabama Red
05-11-2021, 06:41 PM
When I was an umpire I told catchers if they snatched their glove like that I wasn’t calling it a strike because they didn’t think it was a strike either. When coaches came out to argue I’d tell them three people were at the plate and none of us thought it was a strike.

NebraskaRed
05-11-2021, 06:42 PM
2nd pitch to Cast was called a ball. That same location was called strike 3 on Senzel.

757690
05-11-2021, 06:43 PM
Swing the bats tonight boys, you’re not getting any close calls

JFLegal
05-11-2021, 06:48 PM
too much swinging at the first pitch. have to wonder if zinter ever suggests to his guys to be patient.

and yes, i know this ump sucks. we need robo umps for sure.

JFLegal
05-11-2021, 06:51 PM
welp, here we go.

50YrRedsFan
05-11-2021, 06:53 PM
There needs to be a new stat called "Wasted Opportunities". Naquin watches Mous walk, and then swings at the first pitch.

JFLegal
05-11-2021, 06:53 PM
hoffman is horrible.

50YrRedsFan
05-11-2021, 06:54 PM
Batting practice has started.

RedTeamGo!
05-11-2021, 06:54 PM
Is Mike Freeman the best they can do for a India replacment?

It’s not meant to be an improvement. It’s meant to send India down to get consistent at bats. While Votto is out it seems like they’ve decided to play Shogo, Naquin, Winker, and Cast in the OF and Senzel at 2B. Freeman will be the last guy on the bench.

Stray
05-11-2021, 06:54 PM
Tough luck for Hoffman

NebraskaRed
05-11-2021, 06:55 PM
Phillip "Ervin" Evans

Tom Servo
05-11-2021, 06:55 PM
hoffman is horrible.
He's not very good but that half swing just falling fair for a ground rule double isn't something you have much control over.

50YrRedsFan
05-11-2021, 06:56 PM
I hope this isn't a game where the Reds regret using up all the runs yesterday.

KeefeCato
05-11-2021, 06:56 PM
Hoffman is horrible.

Stray
05-11-2021, 06:57 PM
Only well hit ball for the Pirates ends up in an out

Tom Servo
05-11-2021, 06:58 PM
Only well hit ball for the Pirates ends up in an out
And now they get one anyway on a wild pitch.

Don't know why Barnhart didn't just try and body block it.

The Operator
05-11-2021, 06:59 PM
Wild pitch brings in a run


1-0 Rats

RedTeamGo!
05-11-2021, 06:59 PM
Hoffman is a depth guy. He is what he is. We should just be grateful we got a month of solid starts out of him. With Lorenzen clearly being out for awhile id look into signing Cole Hamels.

Banshee
05-11-2021, 06:59 PM
Tucker w/ the lazy backhand instead of blocking that one. It happens, but not very often w/ him.

JFLegal
05-11-2021, 06:59 PM
that's on barnhart. you pound the turf (which is always stupid when catchers do that) then you don't block the pitch.

Stray
05-11-2021, 06:59 PM
I dunno but I thought Hoffman looked as sharp that inning as he has all year. Both of those hits were weakly hit on good pitches.

NebraskaRed
05-11-2021, 07:00 PM
I really don't get the "Hoffman is horrible" narrative. He's simply an okay 5th starter. Nothing great, but not horrible by any means.

Puff
05-11-2021, 07:00 PM
I don’t think he’s bad at all. He’s not a #1, but his stuff has been pretty good.

Tom Servo
05-11-2021, 07:00 PM
I dunno but I thought Hoffman looked as sharp that inning as he has all year. Both of those hits were weakly hit on good pitches.
I like how if you weren't following the game you'd think he gave up 5 runs in the first there based on some of the reactions on here.

JFLegal
05-11-2021, 07:00 PM
I really don't get the "Hoffman is horrible" narrative. He's simply an okay 5th starter. Nothing great, but not horrible by any means.

prolly the white claw talking. ;)

mhs95_06
05-11-2021, 07:01 PM
And now they get one anyway on a wild pitch.

Don't know why Barnhart didn't just try and body block it.

Not a gold glove play by Tucker.

JFLegal
05-11-2021, 07:01 PM
Hoffman is a depth guy. He is what he is. We should just be grateful we got a month of solid starts out of him. With Lorenzen clearly being out for awhile id look into signing Cole Hamels.

i forgot hamels was still out there. probably doesn't have much left, but interesting idea for sure.

TheBigLebowski
05-11-2021, 07:01 PM
I thought Hoffman looked really good. The 2 hits were pure luck. He stymied the heck of the hitters in the 2 strikeouts. Passed ball was a killer. But luck is what did him in. Not bad pitches.

NebraskaRed
05-11-2021, 07:02 PM
I'm not sure that Brubaker is as good as he's been so far this year, but he's a legit starter.

JFLegal
05-11-2021, 07:02 PM
good vibes only. swinging bunt.

The Operator
05-11-2021, 07:03 PM
Wheels Suarez with the infield hit

NebraskaRed
05-11-2021, 07:03 PM
Geno looking like he was gonna run all the way back to the right field wall

Moose Herd
05-11-2021, 07:03 PM
That’ll look like a line drive in the box score.

mhs95_06
05-11-2021, 07:04 PM
Lots of weak contacts for hits tonight!

Mitri
05-11-2021, 07:05 PM
Suarez gets his singles total up, I'll take it!

Tom Servo
05-11-2021, 07:06 PM
"JT Brubaker" is one of those names you get when you play several seasons deep into MLB: The Show and they start making up players.

JFLegal
05-11-2021, 07:07 PM
geno, remove head from rear end, please.

JFLegal
05-11-2021, 07:08 PM
"probably wouldn't have made it" is no excuse for bush league play.

NebraskaRed
05-11-2021, 07:08 PM
Thought Hoffman was gonna make it.

Banshee
05-11-2021, 07:08 PM
Lots of weak contacts for hits tonight!

Bullseye so far.

NebraskaRed
05-11-2021, 07:12 PM
It's completely out of character for MLB to put a stop to players doing something fun.

Tom Servo
05-11-2021, 07:13 PM
The camera loves Blandino. Can't blame them he do be lookin cute doe.

The Operator
05-11-2021, 07:15 PM
The camera loves Blandino. Can't blame them he do be lookin cute doe.

All former Stanford Cardinals exhibit greatness in one way or another.

Tom Servo
05-11-2021, 07:15 PM
Horrible Hoffman with a scoreless 2nd

Banshee
05-11-2021, 07:17 PM
Good to see Senzel heating up.

The Operator
05-11-2021, 07:17 PM
Senzii with a leadoff base knock

Mitri
05-11-2021, 07:18 PM
That's what I want to see out of Senzel. The power will come. Glad that popup every time phase is ending.

Tom Servo
05-11-2021, 07:20 PM
Senzii with a leadoff base knock
so much for that

TheBigLebowski
05-11-2021, 07:20 PM
What a dumb play.

757690
05-11-2021, 07:20 PM
Who steals on a 3-0 count?

NebraskaRed
05-11-2021, 07:21 PM
Everybody loves Senzel!

Everybody hates Senzel!

DocRed
05-11-2021, 07:21 PM
Senzel needs to STOP RUNNING!!

The Operator
05-11-2021, 07:21 PM
Winker!!!

Too bad that’s only a solo shot but it’s a tie game!!!

Tom Servo
05-11-2021, 07:21 PM
Wink! :jump:

Sadly a pitch too late but still, tie game

Stray
05-11-2021, 07:21 PM
Where did that land?

TheBigLebowski
05-11-2021, 07:21 PM
And Winker leaves the yard sans slow footed Senzii

Banshee
05-11-2021, 07:21 PM
Ouch, caught stealing cost a run, but big fly for big Wink!

Griffey012
05-11-2021, 07:21 PM
Why must we make so many boneheaded base running decisions?

RedsLvr
05-11-2021, 07:21 PM
Who steals on a 3-0 count?

He deserves to be benched for that imo. What a dumb baseball play.

InsaneinthBrame
05-11-2021, 07:21 PM
Winker

mhs95_06
05-11-2021, 07:22 PM
Pirates announcers said there was nothing about Senzel's stolen base attempt that made sense. Turns out he was already in scoring position at first!

Mitri
05-11-2021, 07:22 PM
Jesse crushed that one.

Banshee
05-11-2021, 07:23 PM
Ball was 2 inches low on Moose, bring on the robo zone!

TheBigLebowski
05-11-2021, 07:23 PM
I’d like to see Moosecaca show some life.

TheBigLebowski
05-11-2021, 07:24 PM
Didn’t quite get all of that one.

InsaneinthBrame
05-11-2021, 07:25 PM
Our base running is aweful.
That is the most disappointing thing about Senzel is his base running with his speed.

NebraskaRed
05-11-2021, 07:25 PM
They're getting Brubaker's pitch count up, so that's good.

Tom Servo
05-11-2021, 07:26 PM
They're getting Brubaker's pitch count up, so that's good.
Feasting on Pirates middle relief is probably the best way to win this one.

Tom Servo
05-11-2021, 07:27 PM
well now that was horrible by Hoffman

PuffyPig
05-11-2021, 07:27 PM
While stealing on a 3-0 count by Senzel was exceptionally dumb, if may have given us a run.

We have no idea what Winker may had done if Senzel does not steal, he may have hit into a DP, but the odds are very strong it would not have been a HR.


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NebraskaRed
05-11-2021, 07:27 PM
Walking the pitcher is *checks notes*

NOT GOOD.

The Operator
05-11-2021, 07:27 PM
Well that was less than ideal

NebraskaRed
05-11-2021, 07:33 PM
https://media.giphy.com/media/l2Je5IMLrZSbFD63S/giphy.gif

Banshee
05-11-2021, 07:35 PM
Great hooks. One more to go.

NebraskaRed
05-11-2021, 07:36 PM
Never doubted him for a second.

The Operator
05-11-2021, 07:37 PM
Nice job working out of the jam

AG Slater
05-11-2021, 07:39 PM
When is Winker getting an extension? Or Castellano's. Our team needs to build around those 2

The Operator
05-11-2021, 07:40 PM
John Sadak just said “Hal Morris turned the trick...”


Somewhere Gob Bluth’s getting enraged since we all know it’s really “an illusion”...

NebraskaRed
05-11-2021, 07:41 PM
So much for getting Brubaker's pitch count up.

The Operator
05-11-2021, 07:43 PM
That strike 3 pitch to Tucker was actually pretty beautiful.

Aye

Kc61
05-11-2021, 07:53 PM
While stealing on a 3-0 count by Senzel was exceptionally dumb, if may have given us a run.

We have no idea what Winker may had done if Senzel does not steal, he may have hit into a DP, but the odds are very strong it would not have been a HR.


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I have to assume it was a mixup on the sign. If Senzel ran on his own on a 3-0 count, with Winker up, he needs to have a conversation with the manager. Good point that it’s unclear what Winker does if Senzel is on base.

Patrick Bateman
05-11-2021, 07:56 PM
Put Castillo in the pen and leave Hoffman in the rotation.


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Mitri
05-11-2021, 07:57 PM
Hoff De Leon. Ugh.

Tom Servo
05-11-2021, 07:59 PM
Hoff De Leon. Ugh.
De Leon would have given up 3 runs in 1.1 innings top

Mitri
05-11-2021, 08:00 PM
De Leon would have given up 3 runs in 1.1 innings top

True. I think Hoffman works in the bullpen better than JDL does anywhere. But they have similar stuff, similar tendencies. Both kind of suck, too.

KeefeCato
05-11-2021, 08:00 PM
How many more starts does a guy with Hoffman's track record get?

Alf_Red_E
05-11-2021, 08:02 PM
How many more starts does a guy with Hoffman's track record get?

as many as needed till a better option comes along

NebraskaRed
05-11-2021, 08:03 PM
How many more starts does a guy with Hoffman's track record get?

He's been fine as a 5th starter, so far.

RedTeamGo!
05-11-2021, 08:05 PM
It’s 3 runs in 4 innings ::shrugs::

KeefeCato
05-11-2021, 08:07 PM
Another whopping 4 innings from Hoffman. Guy can kill a bullpen when there is no off days for a while.

BUTLER REDSFAN
05-11-2021, 08:14 PM
Losing to the pirates...sucks

The Operator
05-11-2021, 08:15 PM
Well this isn’t going well at all

4-1 Rats

Tony Cloninger
05-11-2021, 08:16 PM
Everybody that’s a 4-5 starter kills a bullpen these days. They might as well go 3 innings each just like the A’s did a few times in 1975 or 76.

KeefeCato
05-11-2021, 08:16 PM
Losing to the pirates...sucks

There best pitcher vs. Hoffman. Hoffman vs. any team 80% chance of a loss unless the bats put up several runs.

KeefeCato
05-11-2021, 08:17 PM
Hendrix is almost as bad as Sal.

Tony Cloninger
05-11-2021, 08:17 PM
Hendrix turning into a pumpkin before you can say pumpkin.

No control equals hittable.

BUTLER REDSFAN
05-11-2021, 08:17 PM
Wow...hendrix on some bad acid...

The Operator
05-11-2021, 08:19 PM
Oh good Cionel Perez warming up


We’ve got The Buccos right where we want them

KeefeCato
05-11-2021, 08:19 PM
Get Hendrix out while the game is still winnable.

Puff
05-11-2021, 08:20 PM
Who replaces Hoffman? It’s not like there are better options.

JFLegal
05-11-2021, 08:26 PM
trash pitching from hoffman and hendrix.

- - - Updated - - -


Who replaces Hoffman? It’s not like there are better options.

santillan might be next in line.

JFLegal
05-11-2021, 08:28 PM
pretty terrible approach by the offense too. brubaker might get a complete game the way they are hacking at everything.

- - - Updated - - -

brubaker will go at least 8. then it's rodriguez. this game is over.

Bob Sheed
05-11-2021, 08:29 PM
Need to get Brubaker out of the game. 81 pitches through 6, he could go all 9.

50YrRedsFan
05-11-2021, 08:31 PM
Senzel and Winker have 4 of the Reds 5 hits. Real tough to score when the rest of the lineup are 1 for 16.

RedTeamGo!
05-11-2021, 08:32 PM
Everyone upset about Hoffman, but the offense is completely laying an egg tonight.

SomeCallMeTim
05-11-2021, 08:33 PM
I figured we’d need some “rollover” runs from last night.

Not on our plan...

The Operator
05-11-2021, 08:33 PM
Brubaker’s night over already?

Bob Sheed
05-11-2021, 08:34 PM
Wow if McGruber's night is done, that changes things...

Stray
05-11-2021, 08:39 PM
Well Brubaker is out. Thanks for that, Pittsburgh.

50YrRedsFan
05-11-2021, 08:44 PM
Suarez getting closer to the Suarez line (.100)

The Operator
05-11-2021, 08:47 PM
Farmer with the walk

Stray
05-11-2021, 08:50 PM
Couple of hard hit line outs, but at least we have the top of the order up in the 8th.

Stray
05-11-2021, 08:54 PM
Senzel looks the part at 2nd

The Operator
05-11-2021, 08:56 PM
Pirate fans are offended that an off speed pitch nearly hit one of their batters.


Clearly they’ve erased Clint Hurdle and Ray Searage from their collective minds.

Stray
05-11-2021, 09:00 PM
Pirate fans are offended that an off speed pitch nearly hit one of their batters.


Clearly they’ve erased Clint Hurdle and Ray Searage from their collective minds.

When there's so few in the stands you can hear everything they say too :laugh:

Reds Fanatic
05-11-2021, 09:04 PM
3 hits for Senzel

The Operator
05-11-2021, 09:04 PM
Senzii with his 3rd hit of the night to start the 8th

Tom Servo
05-11-2021, 09:04 PM
3 hits for Senzel tonight

texasdave
05-11-2021, 09:07 PM
Someday soon, we will be referring to Senzel as 'Nick the Stick'.

Mitri
05-11-2021, 09:07 PM
Senzel starting to look like that guy we drafted outta Tennessee.

Stray
05-11-2021, 09:08 PM
Oh man Winker what are you doing going to 3rd

Reds Fanatic
05-11-2021, 09:08 PM
Winker doubles in a run but then makes an awful baserunning decision and is out by a mile at 3rd

REDREAD
05-11-2021, 09:08 PM
Nice hit by Winker, but idiotic baserunning.

The Operator
05-11-2021, 09:08 PM
Jesse!!!!

4-2 game as Senzel burns through the stop sign and scores then Winker gets gunned down trying to get to 3rd


What in the absolute hell just happened lol

Red Raindog
05-11-2021, 09:08 PM
Winker please don’t do that

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JFLegal
05-11-2021, 09:08 PM
WTF was winker doing?

mhs95_06
05-11-2021, 09:08 PM
#1 and #2 hitters are hitting well, but killing the team on the bases!

BluegrassRedleg
05-11-2021, 09:08 PM
That's inexcuseable.

adkindo
05-11-2021, 09:09 PM
Senzel and Winker have kept us in the game and probably cost us the game.

Tom Servo
05-11-2021, 09:09 PM
What’s wrong with second base Jesse, why do this

WVRedsFan
05-11-2021, 09:09 PM
If you’re not fast, don’t run. Simple smarts. Good grief.

Stray
05-11-2021, 09:09 PM
I don't care how good the fastball is, our guys can hit it.

mgbrown66
05-11-2021, 09:09 PM
Baserunning on this team stinks.

JFLegal
05-11-2021, 09:10 PM
at least slide. you never know. that was just pathetic.

obviously, running to third was the most pathetic thing. but you at least need to slide. oh well, hard to rip the NL's leader in batting average.

mhs95_06
05-11-2021, 09:10 PM
Senzel tricked Winker into going for 3rd. Not heeding House's directions.

Alabama Red
05-11-2021, 09:10 PM
Three bad base running mistakes in this game.

The Operator
05-11-2021, 09:10 PM
JR House is pissed lol

JFLegal
05-11-2021, 09:12 PM
dr farkburger, paging dr farkburger.

REDREAD
05-11-2021, 09:12 PM
I kind of feel bad for House. He put the stop sign up. Senzel ignored it, but at least he scored. Then they keep showing House on the TV, as if it was his fault? Kind of not cool, the guy got blown off, don't keep showing him on TV if you want to talk about it.

Strikes Out Looking
05-11-2021, 09:13 PM
Castellanos is turning into Suarez tonight.

WVRedsFan
05-11-2021, 09:13 PM
The Reds need smarter players and to learn Hoffman is not the answer.

Alf_Red_E
05-11-2021, 09:15 PM
JR House is pissed lol

He should be pizzed, that play exposed what a carp 3B coach he is... Senzel was safe... By a lot... and obviously winker isn't following his instructions

JFLegal
05-11-2021, 09:15 PM
moose can't hit any longer.

The Operator
05-11-2021, 09:15 PM
Sam Howard looks like the guy you’d see constantly feuding with Josh Hader in a TV show about rival meth dealers fighting for their territory.

Alabama Red
05-11-2021, 09:18 PM
moose can't hit any longer.
He’s not good but Suarez being on the team takes the spotlight off of him.

Strikes Out Looking
05-11-2021, 09:19 PM
He should be pizzed, that play exposed what a carp 3B coach he is... Senzel was safe... By a lot... and obviously winker isn't following his instructions

It didn't appear that he gave any instructions to Winker as he was still halfway down the 3rd base line staring at Senzel who was gleefully running into the dugout after scoring.

Kc61
05-11-2021, 09:20 PM
I’m not too upset about the base running mistakes, obviously they need to stop. But mostly it’s guys being aggressive.

Didn’t understand the stop sign to Senzel who scored rather easily.

Let’s have a ninth inning here, Reds.

Alf_Red_E
05-11-2021, 09:23 PM
It didn't appear that he gave any instructions to Winker as he was still halfway down the 3rd base line staring at Senzel who was gleefully running into the dugout after scoring.

So your saying he gave no instruction to Winker and if he had his way Senzel would have been stranded at 3B no run scored in the inning. Yeah, great coach

The Operator
05-11-2021, 09:25 PM
The Pirates may be bad with challenges, but nobody will ever top Bryan Price challenging a ground rule double into a home run for the opponent.

InsaneinthBrame
05-11-2021, 09:28 PM
I’m not too upset about the base running mistakes, obviously they need to stop. But mostly it’s guys being aggressive.

Didn’t understand the stop sign to Senzel who scored rather easily.

Let’s have a ninth inning here, Reds.

Actually I think the stop made sense. It was no need to risk it down 4 too 1. It would have made it 2nd and 3rd no outs with the heart of the order up.
Trying to risk a potential out for a run in that situation could kill a big inning that you need.

The Operator
05-11-2021, 09:29 PM
5-2 Rats


The boys just don’t have it in them today

Alf_Red_E
05-11-2021, 09:30 PM
5-2 Rats


The boys just don’t have it in them today

I was afraid of this last night

The Operator
05-11-2021, 09:35 PM
7-2 ballgame

It’s officially a butt whipping

Alabama Red
05-11-2021, 09:35 PM
Goodness. This team has no chance of making the playoffs.

KeefeCato
05-11-2021, 09:37 PM
Reds have no chance now. And I lost a save on my fantasy team.

REDREAD
05-11-2021, 09:38 PM
7-2 ballgame

It’s officially a butt whipping

yea, that got out of hand rather quickly.
I guess Fulmer is falling back to earth too (I think he gave up most of the damage there, I missed at what point of the inning that Dolittle came in.)

REDREAD
05-11-2021, 09:39 PM
Goodness. This team has no chance of making the playoffs.

Well, we came into the season a 500 team at best.. I think some people just had unrealistic expectations. Reds lost a lot of pitching since last year, and it shows.

KeefeCato
05-11-2021, 09:40 PM
yea, that got out of hand rather quickly.
I guess Fulmer is falling back to earth too (I think he gave up most of the damage there, I missed at what point of the inning that Dolittle came in.)

Don't know if it would have mattered at all. But I think Fulmer should pitch one inning per outing. He runs into trouble in inning two.

JFLegal
05-11-2021, 09:40 PM
this team is going nowhere. they will tease us all summer most likely, but they don't have it. they don't suck, but this is not a playoff team.

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pretty pathetic to get blown out by the worst team in baseball.

Bob Sheed
05-11-2021, 09:41 PM
If they stay in the pack until July, then add some pitching at the deadline...

Stray
05-11-2021, 09:42 PM
couple of infield hits for geno today. he'll glady take em.

TheBigLebowski
05-11-2021, 09:44 PM
This bullpen. Wow.

The Operator
05-11-2021, 09:44 PM
Pirates drop an infield pop up but Geno still out by six million miles at second


2 down

Alabama Red
05-11-2021, 09:45 PM
Well, we came into the season a 500 team at best.. I think some people just had unrealistic expectations. Reds lost a lot of pitching since last year, and it shows.
I don’t even see a 500 team and I didn’t see one to start the season. The problem is the Reds management thinks they’re a playoff team or at least pretends they think that. This is an organization that is going nowhere because they could never accumulate enough talent to make this roster a good team. They can just keep pretending and trying to turn it into a winner. Winker will be Votto in 7 years. This is a compete rebuild.

The Operator
05-11-2021, 09:45 PM
Well that’s that

Routed by the Rats a night after routing them

KeefeCato
05-11-2021, 09:46 PM
Antone hasn't pitched forever. He is being wasted in his role. Hoffman continues to stink. I don't know what the answer is. Antone starting makes a weak pen even weaker. But Hoffman doesn't give the team a very good chance for a win.

REDREAD
05-11-2021, 09:47 PM
Don't know if it would have mattered at all. But I think Fulmer should pitch one inning per outing. He runs into trouble in inning two.

Yea , but that's another problem with this bullpen construction.. Who can actually go 2 out of the pen? Sims, Antone, I guess Romano. I can't remember if we still have 14 pitchers on the roster still or not, but when most of them are bad, it's hard to
keep the game close. I think Bell is trying to make some pitchers 2 inning guys to avoid the entire pen being gassed by July.
The bullpen has a lot of innings to cover this year, and many of them are just bad pitchers. I mean, lots of guys, you aren't even sure they can make it through 1 inning.. Perez is a good example. Seems like the dude allows at least 2 baserunners per inning. Even if he escapes unscored upon, he's always playing with fire.

I think Bell is trying to play the "long game" and really hoping Fulmer or someone can step up and become a reliable 2 inning guy. Tough to make anything work with the sorry pen he was given.

Tom Servo
05-11-2021, 09:48 PM
We’re bad again.

Need a better effort tomorrow.

WVRedsFan
05-11-2021, 09:48 PM
Antone hasn't pitched forever. He is being wasted in his role. Hoffman continues to stink. I don't know what the answer is. Antone starting makes a weak pen even weaker. But Hoffman doesn't give the team a very good chance for a win.
Seems like they attract people with bad judgment.

Rantly
05-11-2021, 09:50 PM
Pirates drop an infield pop up but Geno still out by six million miles at

2 down
What ever happened to the infield fly rule?

REDREAD
05-11-2021, 09:50 PM
I don’t even see a 500 team and I didn’t see one to start the season. The problem is the Reds management thinks they’re a playoff team or at least pretends they think that. This is an organization that is going nowhere because they could never accumulate enough talent to make this roster a good team. They can just keep pretending and trying to turn it into a winner. Winker will be Votto in 7 years. This is a compete rebuild.

I think they will end up below 500 too. That's why I said "at best, a 500 team". I predicted 74-78 wins on the prediction thread. I think I said 78, just to show a little bit of optimism :)
On the plus side, 2020 and 2021 are at least more entertaining to watch than the tanking years were.
But yea, they likely aren't making the playoffs until they rebuild again, I agree with you on that (barring another massive cash infusion)..
Krall just doesn't seem like the guy that can make 3 or 4 key trades and take them to the next level.
Not impressed by him at all.

mhs95_06
05-11-2021, 09:51 PM
Pirates drop an infield pop up but Geno still out by six million miles at second


2 down

Good thing for the Pirates that at least one infielder didn't come in to congregate around the mound to watch the pop-up hit the grass! But how terrible was the Suarez base-running -- he should have been off of 1st by as far as the 1st baseman was away from it, which was like 60', while Suarez didn't even get 50' off of first by the time the ball got to 2nd!

Alabama Red
05-11-2021, 09:55 PM
I think they will end up below 500 too. That's why I said "at best, a 500 team". I predicted 74-78 wins on the prediction thread. I think I said 78, just to show a little bit of optimism :)
On the plus side, 2020 and 2021 are at least more entertaining to watch than the tanking years were.
But yea, they likely aren't making the playoffs until they rebuild again, I agree with you on that (barring another massive cash infusion)..
Krall just doesn't seem like the guy that can make 3 or 4 key trades and take them to the next level.
Not impressed by him at all.
I’m not impressed with him either. I want Moose, Castillo, and others to get hot to trade them but the Reds will think they’re WS bound and trade our top prospects for a bullpen arm.

mhs95_06
05-11-2021, 09:55 PM
Seems like they attract people with bad judgment.

A lot of teams do that -- rare for a player to have good judgement and good talent!

REDREAD
05-11-2021, 10:07 PM
I’m not impressed with him either. I want Moose, Castillo, and others to get hot to trade them but the Reds will think they’re WS bound and trade our top prospects for a bullpen arm.

Maybe in 2022, they will do that. This year, I can't see them adding one cent. I can see them trying to unload money in July.

Tony Cloninger
05-11-2021, 10:17 PM
The minors producing is our biggest hope.

JFLegal
05-11-2021, 10:56 PM
yeah, this team is a .500 team at best. and that's if everything breaks the right way.

need to get a complete scrub like hoffman out of the rotation, and need to add at least 1-2 quality arms to the pen. but guess what. it's too late for that.

texasdave
05-11-2021, 11:01 PM
Jesse Winker must have learned how to run the bases from Jay Bruce. Never make the first or third out at third base. Baseball 101.

757690
05-12-2021, 12:29 AM
The Reds are at .500 with Castillo and Suarez being their worst pitcher and position players. There seems to be room for improvement.