5-12-21 Reds @ Pirates 12:35pm

[Ron Madden]

Reds
1. Nick Senzel (R) 2B
2. Jesse Winker (L) LF
3. Nick Castellanos (R) RF
4. Mike Moustakas (L) 1B
5. Tyler Naquin (L) CF
6. Eugenio Suarez (R) 3B
7. Tyler Stephenson (R) C
8. Kyle Farmer (R) SS
9. Sonny Gray (R) P

Pirates
1. Ka'ai Tom (L) LF
2. Kevin Newman (R) SS
3. Phillip Evans (R) 1B
4. Gregory Polanco (L) RF
5. Erik Gonzalez (R) 3B
6. Wilmer Difo (S) 2B
7. Ben Gamel (L) CF
8. Michael Perez (L) C
9. Trevor Cahill (R) P

[JFLegal]

i'm not a big david bell fan, but one thing i love about him is how early he always posts the lineup. and thanks as always to ron for posting it here.

[Moose Herd]

Nick Senzel's last 15 games .340/.410/.434; .844 OPS.

That will do, Pig. That will do.

[Ron Madden]

Bobby Nightengale
@nightengalejr
Jesse Winker on his baserunning mistake in the 8th inning: "It was just a really, really, really bad play by me." Just an overaggressive attempt to reach 3rd base after the throw home.

[NatiRedGals]

It's ok Wink �� also how about we start using the bullpen with there strengths fulmer one inning only, doolittle start of inning only we don't have the best bullpen but I don't think we have the worst ever either got to be smart

[SomeCallMeTim]

Dear Offense:

Please get Sonny a win today, he deserves it!

[SomeCallMeTim]

Rockies having to play a DH today against Friars ahead of the Reds series...fyi.

[JaxRed]

Nick Senzel's last 15 games .340/.410/.434; .844 OPS.

That will do, Pig. That will do.

I hope he's finally becoming the hitter we hoped for. We need him.

[JFLegal]

no frazier for the buccos? did he get hurt?

[DocRed]

Damn....LeCure harshing on Suarez. I know he has struggled mightily this year but he has been better of late.

[JaxRed]

Damn....LeCure harshing on Suarez. I know he has struggled mightily this year but he has been better of late.

Yep. Last 7 Days he is hitting .188

Last 2 games have been better

[Kc61]

Damn....LeCure harshing on Suarez. I know he has struggled mightily this year but he has been better of late.

If I’m reading Fangraphs correctly, he’s got the lowest BA of any hitter in the major leagues with the qualified number of PAs.

[JFLegal]

If I’m reading Fangraphs correctly, he’s got the lowest BA of any hitter in the major leagues with the qualified number of PAs.

where does he rank in OPS, since that is a much better stat?

[DocRed]

Yep. Last 7 Days he is hitting .188

Last 2 games have been better

Ya I was referring to the last 2 games.

[Kc61]

where does he rank in OPS, since that is a much better stat?

Yeah, it’s a better stat. But I doubt it excuses the worst BA among qualified hitters in the major leagues.

[goreds2]

I love when the Reds play while mowing. Makes the chore less boring!

[DocRed]

I love when the Reds play while mowing. Makes the chore less boring!

LOL I used to love that. Mow the lawn while listening to the game. Then I got old and just hired someone to do it.

[JaxRed]

If you saw Trevor Cahill on the street I don't think professional athlete would be what pops in your mind.

[mhs95_06]

Three easy ground outs, but used 18 pitches. With this pitcher Reds hitters should be more interested in getting on base and scoring runs, rather than trying to get this hit-able pitcher out of the game.

[Moose Herd]

Yeah, it’s a better stat. But I doubt it excuses the worst BA among qualified hitters in the major leagues.

Batting average was invented by the devil to distract and confuse us mere mortals.

[SomeCallMeTim]

If I’m reading Fangraphs correctly, he’s got the lowest BA of any hitter in the major leagues with the qualified number of PAs.

Agree. Some however...

https://media1.giphy.com/media/5dYeglPmPC5lL7xYhs/giphy.gif

[WildcatFan]

I’ll listen for a specific example, but Welsh bags on Sadak’s points a decent amount. Sadak handles it well.

[NebraskaRed]

Mooooooose

[WildcatFan]

Moose bomb.

[RedTeamGo!]

I’ll listen for a specific example, but Welsh bags on Sadak’s points a decent amount. Sadak handles it well.

He did it on the Polanco point. I think Welsh is just shocked he can actually talk baseball with someone in the booth.

[SomeCallMeTim]

Wow that was not exactly a wheelhouse pitch....

[NebraskaRed]

Surprised they didn't go out and check on Cahill after that

[WildcatFan]

He did it on the Polanco point. I think Welsh is just shocked he can actually talk baseball with someone in the booth.

Yea he probably likes a good bar room sports debate. I like the back and forth between these two.

[Stray]

Cahill gets the error on that?

[RedTeamGo!]

Suarez looks a little better at the plate IMO.

[kaldaniels]

Wait - Farmer is hitting .197?

Didn't someone just post the other day that he should be in the lineup etc. since he was hitting .300?

[KeefeCato]

i'm not a big david bell fan, but one thing i love about him is how early he always posts the lineup. and thanks as always to ron for posting it here.

He makes it out at the start of each series for the entire series. Only adjusts due to injury.

[NebraskaRed]

Wait - Farmer is hitting .197?

Didn't someone just post the other day that he should be in the lineup etc. since he was hitting .300?

I think they were saying he was hitting .300 in games where he starts.

[Stray]

Holy Senzel! What a play

[WildcatFan]

Suarez looks a little better at the plate IMO.

“Only” 12 strikeouts over his last 10 games, unfortunately rocking a .167 BABIP in that span.

[KeefeCato]

Wait - Farmer is hitting .197?

Didn't someone just post the other day that he should be in the lineup etc. since he was hitting .300?

I posted He was hitting over .300 on the season as a starter only. I guess he is hitting like .036 off the bench. They posted the stat on TV at the start of this series. I still don't get why Tyler or Tucker isn't starting at 1b with Moose back to 3b and Suarez back to ss. But I guess you can't complain much about .300 as a starter.

[RedTeamGo!]

That was a ridiculous play by Senzel

[CaiGuy]

Senzel is definitely an infielder.

[REDREAD]

Wait - Farmer is hitting .197?

Didn't someone just post the other day that he should be in the lineup etc. since he was hitting .300?

Not taking sides, but Farmer is hitting something like 296 in his most recent X plate appearances, I think that is the confusion.

[CaiGuy]

Not liking this scrappy inning from the Pirates here.

[REDREAD]

That was a ridiculous play by Senzel

Agreed, they should just keep Senzel at 2b. That seems the best place for him.
India can be tried at SS (can he possibly be worse than Suarez) or traded.

[JaxRed]

Need a K on Perez

[KeefeCato]

Not taking sides, but Farmer is hitting something like 296 in his most recent X plate appearances, I think that is the confusion.

They posted .300 average on the season as a starter. That doesn't include pinch hitting or Bells famous double switches. I find it hard to believe but that is what the TV posted.

[REDREAD]

Nice comeback by Sonny to get the K. Huge out.

[RedTeamGo!]

Agreed, they should just keep Senzel at 2b. That seems the best place for him.
India can be tried at SS (can he possibly be worse than Suarez) or traded.

I’m sending India down to AAA, hoping he spends the season tearing it up, and trading him either at the deadline if the Reds are in the hunt or this offseason.

[KeefeCato]

I missed my first inning all season today. The first inning. Turned it on just as Moose blasted one. This lineup really needs him to get going on a tear.

[MoneyInTheBank]

They posted .300 average on the season as a starter. That doesn't include pinch hitting or Bells famous double switches. I find it hard to believe but that is what the TV posted.

According to Baseball Reference, he is hitting .245 as a starter

[RedTeamGo!]

What is this umpire looking at?

[WildcatFan]

Way to get a groundout after strike 4.

[mhs95_06]

Gray struck out Cahill twice, but the ump wouldn't call it, then grounded to 1B on a full count.

[KeefeCato]

According to Baseball Reference, he is hitting .245 as a starter

That seems more like it. I thought .300 or anywhere close was a bit of a stretch.

[RedTeamGo!]

According to Baseball Reference, he is hitting .245 as a starter

Farmer is hitting .300 as a starter on day games after a full moon.

[mhs95_06]

Senzel is definitely an infielder.

And its less injurious to him.

[KeefeCato]

We need to see Antone and Sims for at least one inning a piece today. Would love to see Gray go 7.

[JaxRed]

I'm sending India down just to get him playing time which he needs. I keep Senzel up to speed on both CF and 2b. That makes him very valuable. It would be different if we knew we had either a long term sure fire 2b or CF.

[KeefeCato]

I thought Senzel did fine in CF but I agree 100% he needs to play 2b everyday. Less chance of injury and he looks better at 2b than CF. And yes send India down so he can play. I maybe wrong but I am going to predict he is send down after the game today. If not when they return home. I would do it now.

[REDREAD]

I thought Senzel did fine in CF but I agree 100% he needs to play 2b everyday. Less chance of injury and he looks better at 2b than CF. And yes send India down so he can play. I maybe wrong but I am going to predict he is send down after the game today. If not when they return home. I would do it now.

yea, he's probably a plus 2b (offensively and defensively). I think he's just adequate in CF defensively (definitely not an insult, it's a hard position to play and the best athletes go there).

[KeefeCato]

yea, he's probably a plus 2b (offensively and defensively). I think he's just adequate in CF defensively (definitely not an insult, it's a hard position to play and the best athletes go there).

I keep saying and thinking Naquin is playing way over his head. He keeps on producing. So they have to play him over a guy like Shogo. I cringe at Naquin's bad routes to balls and his rag throwing arm. Not that Shogo's arm is any better. This team probably has the weakest throwing arms of any OF.

[JaxRed]

They might need to give Shogo some playing time at AAA also. He is 0 for 2021 (including spring training) and hit .111 in AAA. The one hit there was a comebacker deflected by pitcher.

[Kc61]

I thought Senzel did fine in CF but I agree 100% he needs to play 2b everyday. Less chance of injury and he looks better at 2b than CF. And yes send India down so he can play. I maybe wrong but I am going to predict he is send down after the game today. If not when they return home. I would do it now.

The problem with Senzel at second base is the defensive OF. It’s quite poor without him. For this year, whatever, but if he’s to move to infield permanently Reds need to revamp the defensive OF. They should have opportunities if Cast leaves and/or the DH rule comes back for Winker.

[NebraskaRed]

Cy Cahill

[REDREAD]

End of 4, Reds up 1-0.
I'm glad we have the lead, but we are really making Cahill look too good. This guy really hasn't been that good since , about 2018 or so? He's kind of a bum now.

[Strikes Out Looking]

How come this team always struggles to score runs after a game in which they do it with ease? Is there an explanation for that-- is it that they do better against pitchers that are hard throwers?

[CaiGuy]

How come this team always struggles to score runs after a game in which they do it with ease? Is there an explanation for that-- is it that they do better against pitchers that are hard throwers?

I think it's just the randomness of baseball.

[CaiGuy]

End of 4, Reds up 1-0.
I'm glad we have the lead, but we are really making Cahill look too good. This guy really hasn't been that good since , about 2018 or so? He's kind of a bum now.

Yeah, and I know Sonny hasn't allowed a run, but you would think he would be carving these guys up. They just keep scrapping his pitch count up.

[NebraskaRed]

"If not for the hits, he'd be throwing a no hitter"

[SomeCallMeTim]

How come this team always struggles to score runs after a game in which they do it with ease? Is there an explanation for that-- is it that they do better against pitchers that are hard throwers?

My take:

Too reliant on the HR again. No run mfg unless its the 10th inning.

[RedTeamGo!]

"If not for the hits, he'd be throwing a no hitter"

Lol, that’s not what he said. His point was the Pirates are hitting a lot of bloops that have eyes.

[CaiGuy]

My take:

Too reliant on the HR again. No run mfg unless its the 10th inning.

They top the NL in batting average.

[NebraskaRed]

Lol, that’s not what he said. His point was the Pirates are hitting a lot of bloops that have eyes.

I stand by my inaccurate snarking.

[REDREAD]

Yeah, and I know Sonny hasn't allowed a run, but you would think he would be carving these guys up. They just keep scrapping his pitch count up.

Yea, Sonny doesn't have his normal control today. It's nice he's avoided damage.

[Kc61]

My take:

Too reliant on the HR again. No run mfg unless its the 10th inning.

With the exception of Monday, Reds have had trouble hitting on road this year. Maybe Colorado will help.

[REDREAD]

They top the NL in batting average.

That's just amazing, Reds as a team lead the NL in team batting average at 247.
I don't keep track of this stuff, but I would've thought the best batting team in the NL would be better than that.

[JaxRed]

Why is Suarez swinging at 3-0 pitch?

[CaiGuy]

That's just amazing, Reds as a team lead the NL in team batting average at 247.
I don't keep track of this stuff, but I would've thought the best batting team in the NL would be better than that.

Yeah, they led in 2010, but with a .272 average. It was .278 excluding pitchers.

[Kc61]

That's just amazing, Reds as a team lead the NL in team batting average at 247.
I don't keep track of this stuff, but I would've thought the best batting team in the NL would be better than that.

The AL seems to be skewing a little higher. Pitching is dominant these days.

[NebraskaRed]

Mostly really pathetic ABs against Cahill.

[CaiGuy]

Wow, Farmer is batting 1.000 for that AB.

[REDREAD]

Farmer with a hit -- "Take that RZ doubters" :laugh:
(Not calling anyone out, just having fun)

[Alabama Red]

Why is Suarez swinging at 3-0 pitch?
He has no idea what pitch is coming and has no chance other than to guess. He figured he would get a strike and was going to swing regardless. He is completely lost at the plate and needs to be benched.

[MoneyInTheBank]

Why is Suarez swinging at 3-0 pitch?

It was a meatball

[REDREAD]

Starting to feel good about winning this one. Antone and Sims rested up :)

[Strikes Out Looking]

That's just amazing, Reds as a team lead the NL in team batting average at 247.
I don't keep track of this stuff, but I would've thought the best batting team in the NL would be better than that.

It's now a hackers/shifters game. The only way to get the averages up is to keep defenses honest and hit the ball more often.

[Kc61]

He has no idea what pitch is coming and has no chance other than to guess. He figured he would get a strike and was going to swing regardless. He is completely lost at the plate and needs to be benched.

Agree, but I wouldn’t be surprised if Bell gave him the hit sign. Like, he’ll get a meatball, smash it, and get going.

Not.

[Alabama Red]

Agree, but I wouldn’t be surprised if Bell gave him the hit sign. Like, he’ll get a meatball, smash it, and get going.

Not.
Agree

[757690]

It was a meatball

I like him swinging 3-0. A great way to break out of a slump. But he hit an easy play to SS. That worries me.

[SomeCallMeTim]

They top the NL in batting average.

How about when it matters like with RISP?

The problem with this team is they score 1-2 or 10-11. Makes the averages look good, but there is no consistency with this O.

This offense is all or nothing. It would be nice to see this team win some 5-2 or 6-3 games.

[NebraskaRed]

https://media.giphy.com/media/l2Je5IMLrZSbFD63S/giphy.gif

[REDREAD]

Darn it. Pirates tie it up.

[NebraskaRed]

One run wouldn't matter if the Reds hadn't looked completely baffled by Trevor stinkin' Cahill.

[WildcatFan]

Now let's get some runs, eh?

[DocRed]

Why is Gray still out there? Where is Antone? 3 run HR coming up.

[Kc61]

I like him swinging 3-0. A great way to break out of a slump. But he hit an easy play to SS. That worries me.

Suarez’ hitting problems are sufficiently troublesome that it was never going to work. His issues won’t be resolved by one at bat. For Joey Votto, probably a good idea when he’s in a slump.

[SomeCallMeTim]

This again is all on the offense. Gray should be have been able to coast today.

Plenty of time for the Reds but if you play players that can’t hit 3-0 meatballs or take a few, they deserve that fate.

[DocRed]

4 WP today for Gray?

[WildcatFan]

Gray has no clue what his breaking ball is gonna do.

[Alabama Red]

Stephenson needs to get better behind the plate.

[MoneyInTheBank]

I like him swinging 3-0. A great way to break out of a slump. But he hit an easy play to SS. That worries me.

It's tough. Everything is so magnified right now. It's one AB but when you've struggled this bad all season, it feels like more than that. I'm sure he's trying to raise his average 100 points every AB. It sucks

[Moose Herd]

How about when it matters like with RISP?

The problem with this team is they score 1-2 or 10-11. Makes the averages look good, but there is no consistency with this O.

This offense is all or nothing. It would be nice to see this team win some 5-2 or 6-3 games.


The Reds lead the universe in batting average w/RISP .310. Second place are the Rangers at .288.

Also, batting average is a bad stat and you shouldn't care about it.

[REDREAD]

Bell likes to play with fire. FINALLY pulls Gray.

[WildcatFan]

Weird sub there, Bell.

[MoneyInTheBank]

Suarez’ hitting problems are sufficiently troublesome that it was never going to work. His issues won’t be resolved by one at bat. For Joey Votto, probably a good idea when he’s in a slump.

It was never going to work? C'mon...

[SomeCallMeTim]

Stephenson needs to get better behind the plate.

That last one was a 5 hole shot, but Sonny has been bouncing them up there all day...

[Stray]

Did I hear some Paula Abdul walkup music?

[CaiGuy]

How about when it matters like with RISP?

The problem with this team is they score 1-2 or 10-11. Makes the averages look good, but there is no consistency with this O.

This offense is all or nothing. It would be nice to see this team win some 5-2 or 6-3 games.

It's besides the point, because it always counts (how else to do you get runners on in the first place), but they are also tops with RISP.

Their line:

.310 .388 .476 .864

I don't have a lot of time to watch other teams, but I am guessing all teams have huge games with the bat and then duds. It's the nature of baseball.

[Rotater Cuff]

Polanco is in the 4th year of his contract with the Pirates, and it has been a disaster for the Pirates. Suarez is in the 4th year of his contract (although its 6 years, not 5), and while not a disaster, it certainly isn't looking good since 2019.

[mhs95_06]

Stephenson needs to get better behind the plate.

I agree. He did however make a good play on the runner coming home, charging him and tagging him before he could turn around and get in a hotbox and get the batter to 2nd.

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Stephenson needs to get better behind the plate.

I agree. He did however make a good play on the runner coming home, charging him and tagging him before he could turn around and get in a hotbox and get the batter to 2nd.

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Stephenson needs to get better behind the plate.

I agree. He did however make a good play on the runner coming home, charging him and tagging him before he could turn around and get in a hotbox and get the batter to 2nd.

[NebraskaRed]

Antone for president.

[mhs95_06]

Stephenson needs to get better behind the plate.

I agree. He did however make a good play on the runner coming home, charging him and tagging him before he could turn around and get in a hotbox and get the batter to 2nd.

[REDREAD]

Whew, breathing a sigh of relief.. Antone comes through again.

[Strikes Out Looking]

Gray and all the starters need to be able to make it 5 innings at a minimum.

[CaiGuy]

Antone didn't come to play around.

It's weird to be bummed with a 1-run start, but I was really hoping for more from Gray considering the lineup that the Pirates run out there.

If am in the Pirates, I take what I already have gotton out of Cahill. I hope the Reds can turn it around the 3rd time seeing him.

[Alabama Red]

Gray and all the starters need to be able to make it 5 innings at a minimum.
I think they need to get at least 6 with this bullpen. Sonny didn’t have it today but grinder through and only gave up one run. The offense and relievers need to step up today because Sonny put them in position to win.

[JFLegal]

that's just absolutely terrible. 1 run off a complete bum like cahill in 5.1 innings.

guaranteed that will be his best start all year. nice job, reds.

[WildcatFan]

Weird sub there, Shelton.

[REDREAD]

Pirates probably did us a favor pulling Cahill there, I think he only had 74 pitches and was killing us.

[Tom Servo]

Gray and all the starters need to be able to make it 5 innings at a minimum.
Part of that is Bell’s quick hook though. Hoffman hasn’t been good lately but Bell is still yanking him at 80ish pitches, and Sonny here today can generally be counted on to get that final out.

I understood why Bell did this in 2019 when the pen had more depth but the benefit is less clear to me in 2021

[JFLegal]

trevor cahill looks like a fat trevor bauer.

[NebraskaRed]

Before you nerds prove me wrong with your "facts" and "evidence" I will say that it always seems like the Reds underperform when they face a pitcher like Cahill who is really not good.

[JFLegal]

was winker actually aruging that strike call?

[Tom Servo]

Before you nerds prove me wrong with your "facts" and "evidence" I will say that it always seems like the Reds underperform when they face a pitcher like Cahill who is really not good.
Do have to point out that they destroyed Cahill a few weeks ago. I still agree with the general sentiment though.

[757690]

Before you nerds prove me wrong with your "facts" and "evidence" I will say that it always seems like the Reds underperform when they face a pitcher like Cahill who is really not good.

I call it the Shawn Boskie syndrome

[NebraskaRed]

Do have to point out that they destroyed Cahill a few weeks ago. I still agree with the general sentiment though.

https://frinkiac.com/meme/S05E03/532130.jpg?b64lines=IE5FUkQh

[SomeCallMeTim]

Antone didn't come to play around.

It's weird to be bummed with a 1-run start, but I was really hoping for more from Gray considering the lineup that the Pirates run out there.

If am in the Pirates, I take what I already have gotton out of Cahill. I hope the Reds can turn it around the 3rd time seeing him.

We shouldn’t be hoping for more from Gray.

Gray should be expecting more from his offense, as we do against the likes of Cahill.

[klw]

Antone for president.

Fun fact, there is no one on the Reds current 40 Player roster who is eligible to be President. Sean Doolittle is the closest as he turns 35 on September 26.
https://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/CIN/2021-roster.shtml

[NebraskaRed]

Fun fact, there is no one on the Reds current 40 Player roster who is eligible to be President. Sean Doolittle is the closest as he turns 35 on September 26.
https://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/CIN/2021-roster.shtml

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Fun fact, there is no one on the Reds current 40 Player roster who is eligible to be President. Sean Doolittle is the closest as he turns 35 on September 26.
https://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/CIN/2021-roster.shtml

https://frinkiac.com/meme/S05E03/532130.jpg?b64lines=IE5FUkQh

[REDREAD]

I think C Perez snuck over to the Pirates bullpen and put on a "Howard" shirt :)

[JFLegal]

bell is so stupid. leave naquin in there. this pitcher lost it mentally. now, he pinch hits blandino ... and of course the pirates go back to their pen.

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if it sounds like i have zero faith in blandino ... you don't need to get your hearing checked.

[Alabama Red]

https://frinkiac.com/meme/S05E03/532130.jpg?b64lines=IE5FUkQh

Funny

[JFLegal]

bell counters with shogo. ok. alright.

[RedTeamGo!]

Wow textbook overmanaging by Bell. You just got a dude that can’t find the zone out of the game to put a bad hitter in for one of the hottest hitters in the league. Wowzer.

[MoneyInTheBank]

Had no idea David Bell's middle name was Copperfield

[Alabama Red]

What? Just leave Naquin in.

[mhs95_06]

Pirates probably did us a favor pulling Cahill there, I think he only had 74 pitches and was killing us.

1st lefthanded batter after starting thru the line-up for the 3rd time.

[SomeCallMeTim]

bell is so stupid. leave naquin in there. this pitcher lost it mentally. now, he pinch hits blandino ... and of course the pirates go back to their pen.

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if it sounds like i have zero faith in blandino ... you don't need to get your hearing checked.

Zero faith in zero?

[JFLegal]

my god shogo sucks.

[Strikes Out Looking]

I'm sure we'll see Hoffman pinch hitting in the 11th inning at this rate.

[WildcatFan]

Fun fact, there is no one on the Reds current 40 Player roster who is eligible to be President. Sean Doolittle is the closest as he turns 35 on September 26.
https://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/CIN/2021-roster.shtml

President Do Little *snort*

[REDREAD]

Shogo stinks.

[Alabama Red]

my god shogo sucks.
He is not an MLB level talent.

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my god shogo sucks.
He is not an MLB level talent.

[REDREAD]

1st lefthanded batter after starting thru the line-up for the 3rd time.

Yea, I see the logic, but still glad Cahill left.

[JFLegal]

just goes to sho-go how terrible the japanese league is. it's basically AA at best.

[MoneyInTheBank]

Cue the "Is Shogo Broken?" thread (where we will inevitably talk about Suarez for pages on end)

[SomeCallMeTim]

Shogo stinks.

Along with Bell.

Waste 3 players in 1 AB in the 6th to get that result.

[Tom Servo]

Yeah pulling down Naquin there is one of those moves that only works if you’re assuming the other manager won’t follow the natural progression of pulling down his LH pitcher, which is a bad assumption.

[BluegrassRedleg]

Antone lives!!!

[JFLegal]

Cue the "Is Shogo Broken?" thread (where we will inevitably talk about Suarez for pages on end)

"was shogo ever good?" should be the thread title.

[NebraskaRed]

Antone for emperor of the world.

[JFLegal]

Yeah pulling down Naquin there is one of those moves that only works if you’re assuming the other manager won’t follow the natural progression of pulling down his LH pitcher, which is a bad assumption.

bell is consistent at least. consistent at being a bad manager.

[klw]

https://frinkiac.com/meme/S05E03/532130.jpg?b64lines=IE5FUkQh

https://uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/revenge-of-the-nerds-feat.jpg?w=710

[Mitri]

Sadak with the Schrute Farms reference.

[MoneyInTheBank]

"was shogo ever good?" should be the thread title.

Call it whatever you want. It will still turn into a Suarez slander thread

[WildcatFan]

Fully expect Manfred to ban beet juice by the end of the day.

[JFLegal]

Call it whatever you want. It will still turn into a Suarez slander thread

"he should be playing in the venezualan league! 49 home runs 2 seasons ago was a fluke!"

[NebraskaRed]

Yucky!

[cumberlandreds]

This Antone is purty good.

[JFLegal]

Yucky!

he said yucky.

and he's not wrong.

[MoneyInTheBank]

"he should be playing in the venezualan league! 49 home runs 2 seasons ago was a fluke!"

That's the spirit!

[REDREAD]

Games like this make us glad Antone is in the pen, that's for sure..
Let's get a run, Reds. We probably just need 1.

[BluegrassRedleg]

Cue the "Is Shogo Broken?" thread (where we will inevitably talk about Suarez for pages on end)

He was never functioning, so it's hard to tell.

[Alabama Red]

"he should be playing in the venezualan league! 49 home runs 2 seasons ago was a fluke!"
He has been a pretty good player for the Reds so fluke is probably strong. I’d say he over performed in 2019. He has just completely lost it and I’m not sure he has the drive anymore.

[SomeCallMeTim]

he said yucky.

and he's not wrong.

Antone is filthy.

The Reds hitting is yucky. Behold:

[JFLegal]

that disgrace suarez rips a single.

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He has been a pretty good player for the Reds so fluke is probably strong. I’d say he over performed in 2019. He has just completely lost it and I’m not sure he has the drive anymore.

i mean, he hit 34 HRs the previous season.

[WildcatFan]

He has just completely lost it and I’m not sure he has the drive anymore.

What's that now?

[cumberlandreds]

Suarez with a lousy single.

[JFLegal]

muddaF

[SomeCallMeTim]

Reverse psychology worked that time...

Now steal!!!!!

[JFLegal]

he's safe.

[NebraskaRed]

Is Stephenson broken?

[BluegrassRedleg]

He was safe, wasn't he?

[The Operator]

Oh he’s safe

[JFLegal]

that's not even close. is angel hernandez's clone umpiring first base?

[cumberlandreds]

Stephenson was safe. That will be overturned.

[DocRed]

MLB umps just suck. I thought he was safe watching it live. I think they just love ringing people up

[REDREAD]

Suarez with a lousy single.

And then Suarez lets Stephenson hit into a DP... come on Suarez, you are better than that..
(Being sarcastic :) )

Edit, I missed it being overturned.. never mind.

[Alabama Red]

What's that now?
About 15 more and he’ll be above the Mendoza line.

[SomeCallMeTim]

he's safe.

100%

Except in Arizona...

[JFLegal]

don't worry, farmer will hit into a dp.

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wild pitch! there will be no dp for farmer.

[WildcatFan]

About 15 more and he’ll be above the Mendoza line.

I'm behind and hadn't even seen the hit yet. I'm talking about questioning a dude's commitment when he's not given a single reason to do so.

[MoneyInTheBank]

About 15 more and he’ll be above the Mendoza line.

All he can do is get the one in front of him

[SomeCallMeTim]

don't worry, farmer will hit into a dp.

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wild pitch! there will be no dp for farmer.

Always the line out...be positive. :-)

[JFLegal]

single by farmer! man, could he have scored?

[REDREAD]

Farmer laughs at his doubters on RZ :)

[DocRed]

Farmer is really making it hard for me to win argument that he shouldn't be the starting SS while Votto is on the IL. Dangit.....

[NebraskaRed]

single by farmer! man, could he have scored?

Didn't look like he could have to me.

[JFLegal]

Didn't look like he could have to me.

i think you're right.

[BluegrassRedleg]

House has terrible instincts.

[NebraskaRed]

Chasen is a name that makes me irrationally annoyed.

[WildcatFan]

I've seen enough of those go badly for this team that I'm totally fine holding him.

[BluegrassRedleg]

I've seen enough of those go badly for this team that I'm totally fine holding him.

Fair point.

[JFLegal]

barnhart going fishing.

[Kc61]

If Bell wanted to pinch hit in a lefty/lefty matchup, this would be it. Not Naquin earlier.

Just want a fly ball here, you’d like better percentages.

But maybe Tucker can do it.

[JFLegal]

just a horrible at bat. could decide the game.

[Kc61]

just a horrible at bat. could decide the game.

Very tough spot for Barnhart, he doesn’t hit lefties much.

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just a horrible at bat. could decide the game.

Very tough spot for Barnhart, he doesn’t hit lefties much.

[NebraskaRed]

President Doolittle is warmed up.

[klw]

So top of the 7th, only 1 guy is left on the bench- a Rookie and the Reds have blown their two best pirchers. Tie game, what could go wrong.

[JFLegal]

If Bell wanted to pinch hit in a lefty/lefty matchup, this would be it. Not Naquin earlier.

Just want a fly ball here, you’d like better percentages.

But maybe Tucker can do it.

nope, he can't. bell is still a terrible manager.

[SomeCallMeTim]

Well Nick we need you here....

[50YrRedsFan]

just a horrible at bat. could decide the game.

typical outcome...Reds get a man on 3rd, and the hitter K's without touching the ball.

[klw]

Chasen is a name that makes me irrationally annoyed.

Well you are stuck with him for at least one more hitter because even if Senzel gets a hit, the Reds won't be Chasen Shreve due to the 3 batter requirement.

[JFLegal]

still can't get over what a terrible AB that was from barnhart.

[Kc61]

nope, he can't. bell is still a terrible manager.

I don’t think he’s terrible but the Naquin thing was a mistake. Just too early in the game to use two pinch hitters. Team only has a four man bench.

He used Naquin, Blandino and Shogo to get an out.

[REDREAD]

And we finally get to see a cute girl on the screen (She got a foul ball).
The camera men seem to like to find guys with good "beard or stache game" now. :(

[JFLegal]

effing awful.

[DocRed]

Oh joy Doolittle coming in....

[Alabama Red]

Although not a hit that was a pretty good AB by Senzel. He fought some off and went the other way.

[RedTeamGo!]

It sucks Stephenson didn’t get sent.

[REDREAD]

So top of the 7th, only 1 guy is left on the bench- a Rookie and the Reds have blown their two best pirchers. Tie game, what could go wrong.

Sims is available, I think, right? But I get your point. Not defending Bell, just wondering. Not paying 100% attention.

[Kc61]

typical outcome...Reds get a man on 3rd, and the hitter K's without touching the ball.

It’s really on the manager. Was a bad matchup lefty/lefty. Tucker’s a lifetime .211 hitter against lefties.

That was the spot for Blandino who had been “burned” earlier.

Whatever, game not over yet.

[WildcatFan]

Nothing's easy against this legendary Pittsburgh pitching staff.

[757690]

This could get ugly fast

[BluegrassRedleg]

So top of the 7th, only 1 guy is left on the bench- a Rookie and the Reds have blown their two best pirchers. Tie game, what could go wrong.

A true TinkerBell classic today.

[SomeCallMeTim]

Although not a hit that was a pretty good AB by Senzel. He fought some off and went the other way.

Yep, would have scored a run 1 out earlier....

This offense is Jeckyll and Hide (and yes that is misspelled on purpose)

[JFLegal]

2 quick outs.

[JFLegal]

nice work doolittle.

[Kc61]

Nice inning by Doolittle, really pitched well.

[NebraskaRed]

President Doolittle!

[REDREAD]

Dolittle did good.

[Tom Servo]

nice frame by Doolittle

[REDREAD]

We sure are easy to please, a 1-2-3 inning by a Reds reliever gets about 6 happy posts :)

[WildcatFan]

President Doolittle!

I only vote for lefties.

[NebraskaRed]

Winker chased Chasen from the game.

[klw]

Winker chased Chasen from the game.

All the way back to Shreveport.

[Tom Servo]

Castellanos wants to play on a winner, prime opportunity for a big hit.

or look at strike 3.

[JFLegal]

not a strike JFC.

[BluegrassRedleg]

That's a strike. Swing the bat.

[JFLegal]

moose with a single.

[NebraskaRed]

Moose for vice president

[Tom Servo]

2 runners on again, great opportunity to replicate the last two innings :help:

[JFLegal]

oh no, the flea is up.

[kaldaniels]

You can say Castellanos should have swung and I can’t argue.

But was that off the plate per the most accurate pitch tracker? It looked as close as it can be.

[SomeCallMeTim]

Great here is Na—

Oh crap.

[JFLegal]

my god shogo is absolutely awful.

[50YrRedsFan]

Shogo doesn't have a chance here.

[JFLegal]

how bad is the japan league?

[BluegrassRedleg]

Pathetic.

[Tom Servo]

The one thing I don't want to see from Shogo is strikeouts, and yet...

[Kc61]

Suarez with a chance to increase his (trade) value. I mean his value.

[REDREAD]

I'm thankful Shogo didn't hit into a DP, only a strikeout.

[kaldaniels]

The one thing I don't want to see from Shogo is strikeouts, and yet...

When he slapped that foul to left I thought he was on it.

[Kc61]

Maybe they should have waited until Shogo got a few hits at AAA.

Not sure what the rush was, he only played two games down there. Missed most of ST.

[SomeCallMeTim]

Shogo looks like me flailing in the fast cage when I should be sticking to the mid and slow pitch machines and get the most out of my tokens...

[JFLegal]

bell is a clown. how do you take naquin out of the game?

[Tom Servo]

Maybe they should have waited until Shogo got a few hits at AAA.

Not sure what the rush was, he only played two games down there.
Yeah I had that thought as well, could have given him at least a week there.

[JFLegal]

reds have had plenty of chances. just a matter of time before they lose this game.

[JFLegal]

Shogo looks like me flailing in the fast cage when I should be sticking to the mid and slow pitch machines and get the most out if my tokens...

shogo looks like the kid in little league that you have to play, but you bat him 9th and pinch hit for him often.

[Kc61]

Yeah I had that thought as well, could have given him at least a week there.

It’s not as if they needed Shogo to replace Votto, he’s just sitting on the bench. No spot for him to start.

[NebraskaRed]

The game will be decided when President Doolittle steps to the podium (home plate) in the 9th and delivers his state of the union address (a grand slam).

[JFLegal]

our great shogo nightmare is over. at least for this game. double switch. india in.

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bell is already out of position players.

[Tom Servo]

Shogo as today's whipping boy taking the heat off of Suarez.