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Ron Madden
05-17-2021, 02:45 PM
Reds
1. Jesse Winker (L) LF
2. Nick Senzel (R) 3B
3. Nick Castellanos (R) RF
4. Tyler Naquin (L) CF
5. Eugenio Suarez (R) SS
6. Kyle Farmer (R) 1B
7. Tucker Barnhart (L) C
8. Jonathan India (R) 2B
9. Sonny Gray (R) P

Giants
1. Mike Tauchman (L) CF
2. Buster Posey (R) C
3. Mike Yastrzemski (L) RF
4. Darin Ruf (R) 1B
5. Brandon Crawford (L) SS
6. Wilmer Flores (R) 3B
7. Alex Dickerson (L) LF
8. Mauricio Dubon (R) 2B
9. Logan Webb (R) P

NatiRedGals
05-17-2021, 02:51 PM
Who's pitching for giants? Shogo deserves another start

Ron Madden
05-17-2021, 02:52 PM
Lance McAlister
@LanceMcAlister
SF best record NL (24-16) and
1 of 2 teams w/ .600+ winning percentage (White Sox .615).
5 teams played .600+ last year in MLB.

Ron Madden
05-17-2021, 02:54 PM
Who's pitching for giants? Shogo deserves another start

Logan Webb

NebraskaRed
05-17-2021, 02:59 PM
None of the games this series are going to be easy, but Logan Webb seems the most beatable starter.

JFLegal
05-17-2021, 03:04 PM
None of the games this series are going to be easy, but Logan Webb seems the most beatable starter.

cueto has really struggled since coming off the IL. and mahle pitches that day for the reds. (and i'll be attending my first reds' game in person in almost 2 years that afternoon.)

DocRed
05-17-2021, 03:12 PM
Who's pitching for giants? Shogo deserves another start

Seriously...WTF??

757690
05-17-2021, 03:14 PM
The Farmer love continues.

Bell moves Suarez back to SS but keeps Farmer in the lineup.

TexasRedsFan
05-17-2021, 03:24 PM
Moose misses his bobblehead game.

Tom Servo
05-17-2021, 03:28 PM
None of the games this series are going to be easy, but Logan Webb seems the most beatable starter.
And the only one who isn't a former Red.

DocRed
05-17-2021, 03:34 PM
The Farmer love continues.

Bell moves Suarez back to SS but keeps Farmer in the lineup.

Seriously. I mean if you are gonna put Farmer in....play him at SS!!! Geezus Bell drives me crazy sometimes. We've got 3 of our 4 infielders playing out of position in this game...what could go wrong?

Fil3232
05-17-2021, 03:38 PM
Farmer over the last 14 days is hitting .306/.375/.389. I don't mind riding the hotter bat right now.

757690
05-17-2021, 03:43 PM
Farmer over the last 14 days is hitting .306/.375/.389. I don't mind riding the hotter bat right now.

I understand playing the hot hand. But play him at his best position, SS, if only to keep Suarez away from SS.

Ron Madden
05-17-2021, 03:44 PM
Seriously. I mean if you are gonna put Farmer in....play him at SS!!! Geezus Bell drives me crazy sometimes. We've got 3 of our 4 infielders playing out of position in this game...what could go wrong?

It's the same starting infield as yesterday

Geno made a Helluva turn on the double play to end the game

KeefeCato
05-17-2021, 03:52 PM
Not a huge Farmer guy. But how can anyone say he shouldn't be playing now? Guy has been really good for 2 weeks now. Ride the hot hand. Just wish he was at SS. Would have like to seen Shogo start but I get why he isn't. Naquin hasn't been bad at all.
I have complained about Farmer playing too much. I have complained about Naquin. Happy to say I have been wrong. Both guys playing very well right now.
I don't get why some can't admit when they are wrong about a player. It is like they keep complaining till the guy goes in a slump so they can say. I told you this guy stinks. I wanna be wrong about every Reds player who I thought would be bad but have been good. I really wanna be wrong about my Hoffman complaints as well.

DocRed
05-17-2021, 03:55 PM
It's the same starting infield as yesterday

Geno made a Helluva turn on the double play to end the game

He did...but he was also part of one of the worst fielding plays I have seen by an infield in quite some time.

Moose Herd
05-17-2021, 03:55 PM
The Farmer love continues.

Bell moves Suarez back to SS but keeps Farmer in the lineup.

You were using DRS earlier this year, and using DRS, Suarez is improving. At one point he was at -10 at SS using DRS on Fangraphs. He's now at -5. He's tied with DiDi and is better than Elvis Andrus and Jose Iglesias (of all people).

Ron Madden
05-17-2021, 04:06 PM
Cincinnati Reds
@Reds
The #Reds have added RHP Michael Feliz to the 26-man roster and optioned to Triple-A Louisville RHP Art Warren.

HammerTime
05-17-2021, 04:08 PM
@nightengalejr
#Reds added RHP Michael Feliz to the active today after claiming him off waivers.

Art Warren was optioned to AAA. Sal Romano cleared waivers and elected free agency.

Alf_Red_E
05-17-2021, 04:26 PM
Not sure what Warren did but eat a few innings before being moved down... didn't they evaluate him prior to picking him up?

Kc61
05-17-2021, 04:37 PM
I guess Bell doesn’t like his other options for first base. So Farmer is there.

With a 37-year old first baseman, Votto, Reds might have better depth to backup the position.

The result of Suarez at short and Farmer at first is, well, sub-optimal defensively.

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Not sure what Warren did but eat a few innings before being moved down... didn't they evaluate him prior to picking him up?

Warren was apparently brought up temporarily, just until Feliz could be activated. This was obviously pre-planned, it wasn’t the result of his pitching while with the Reds.

757690
05-17-2021, 04:40 PM
NM

Alf_Red_E
05-17-2021, 04:46 PM
Who's pitching for giants? Shogo deserves another start

Although I like Shogo's dink and dunk base hits, Naquin is a better hitter IMO... stick with the hot hand

Moose Herd
05-17-2021, 04:49 PM
I guess Bell doesn’t like his other options for first base. So Farmer is there.

With a 37-year old first baseman, Votto, Reds might have better depth to backup the position.



They do have a backup at first, Moose, but he's injured right now too.

Alf_Red_E
05-17-2021, 05:03 PM
Just picking nits here, but shouldn't Senzel leadoff and let Winker bat #2? Shouldn't Nick's speed play well for Winker, and gives him a better chance of having men on base in front of his bat? Not to mention Tinkerbell could keep his r-l-r-l lineup going.

KeefeCato
05-17-2021, 05:04 PM
Ouch. Liked what little I saw from Warren. I figured Perez would be sent down. Still if Feliz does anything like Hembree has so far bullpen will be better.

Ron Madden
05-17-2021, 05:07 PM
Joel Luckhaupt of the Pawnee Lerpiss family
@jluckhaupt
Tucker Barnhart is hitting .289/.354/.478 as a catcher.
Tyler Stephenson is hitting .309/.345/.400 as a catcher.

Curt Casali is hitting .109/.255/.130 as a catcher.
Giants catchers are still outhitting Reds catchers because Buster Posey is hitting .382/.466/.685 as a catcher.

DocRed
05-17-2021, 05:34 PM
Although I like Shogo's dink and dunk base hits, Naquin is a better hitter IMO... stick with the hot hand

A week ago I would have agreed but he has played some atrocious defense as of late. Naquin has had a - WPA in 9 of his last 12 games. Shogo has had a - WPA in 6 or his 9 games. And WPA does not factor in defense. Although I question how accurate WPA is... but it's the only daily metric that BA shows, ie it doesn't show bWAR per game.

NebraskaRed
05-17-2021, 05:41 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E1nssP0WEAM0zGB?format=jpg&name=small

Casali returns to GABP

Ron Madden
05-17-2021, 05:44 PM
In his last start, which came Wednesday in Pittsburgh, Sonny Gray (0-2, 3.55 ERA) became the first Reds pitcher in the modern era to throw four wild pitches in a game. He also allowed seven hits, snapping his streak of consecutive regular season starts with six or fewer hits allowed at 48.

Gray, who began the season on the injured list with back soreness, yielded just one run in 4 2/3 innings before being pulled from a game that the Reds eventually won, 5-1, in 10 innings.

The Giants counter with right-hander Logan Webb (2-3, 4.74). Filling in for an injured Aaron Sanchez, Webb struck out a career-high 10 over six-plus innings to help the Giants beat the visiting Texas Rangers, 4-2, on Tuesday.

Webb 24 became the youngest Giants pitcher to register a double-digit-strikeout game since Madison Bumgarner on Sept. 19, 2013, and lowered his ERA to 4.74 after recording his third quality start in his past four outings.

"I thought Webby did a fine job," Giants skipper Gabe Kapler said. "I'm certainly satisfied with the results. I'm certainly satisfied with the line. Very impressive strikeout total.https://www.cbssports.com

KeefeCato
05-17-2021, 06:42 PM
Brantley is so much better than Larkin.

Tom Servo
05-17-2021, 06:43 PM
Sonny no

Red Raindog
05-17-2021, 06:43 PM
Sub optimal start


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KeefeCato
05-17-2021, 06:45 PM
Sonny no

When you posted this had he walked Tauchman?

Tom Servo
05-17-2021, 06:46 PM
When you posted this had he walked Tauchman?
Yes not a fan of the leadoff walk

JFLegal
05-17-2021, 06:47 PM
can you go hard into second or can't you? i was told you couldn't do that any longer.

KeefeCato
05-17-2021, 06:48 PM
Yes not a fan of the leadoff walk

Thanks. The reason I asked was to find out how far I am behind on the Bally app. Over a minute. Foxgo app was around 10-15 seconds behind. Bally stinks.

JFLegal
05-17-2021, 06:49 PM
what a lucky bs hit.

The Operator
05-17-2021, 06:49 PM
Oh for the love


Nothing going right



Bases loaded with 1 out

JFLegal
05-17-2021, 06:49 PM
get 2 and get out of this sonny.

Tom Servo
05-17-2021, 06:49 PM
This inning is a mess

WildcatFan
05-17-2021, 06:49 PM
This is already the most frustrating inning of the season.

The Operator
05-17-2021, 06:49 PM
This inning should have been over already and then some.

JFLegal
05-17-2021, 06:49 PM
first pitch to crawford was a strike. called a ball.

The Operator
05-17-2021, 06:50 PM
Don’t get too cute here Sonny.

The bases are loaded.

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first pitch to crawford was a strike. called a ball.

I dunno man. I’m as critical of umps as anyone, it looked outside to me.

The Operator
05-17-2021, 06:51 PM
Jesus


Circus Baseball

Puff
05-17-2021, 06:52 PM
For the love of god.

The Operator
05-17-2021, 06:52 PM
That should have been out #6

BluegrassRedleg
05-17-2021, 06:52 PM
I know that's deflected, but it's deflected right to him and should have been a double-play.

757690
05-17-2021, 06:52 PM
India trying to be too clever, again.

NebraskaRed
05-17-2021, 06:52 PM
The guys leave Coors Field but Coors Field doesn't leave the guys.

Tom Servo
05-17-2021, 06:52 PM
what the hell are they doing out there

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That should have been out #6
Sonny is mostly innocent but not totally off the hook in my mind, strikeouts are good way to alleviate these issues.

The Operator
05-17-2021, 06:53 PM
The guys leave Coors Field but Coors Field doesn't leave the guys.

And we won’t get to face The Rockies bullpen this time either.

WildcatFan
05-17-2021, 06:53 PM
Maybe Sonny needs to become a fly ball pitcher?

Reds Freak
05-17-2021, 06:53 PM
The defense the last two years has been like watching a JV team. All these balls this inning need to be outs on a major league field. The Reds defense really puts a ceiling on this team's potential.

The Operator
05-17-2021, 06:54 PM
what the hell are they doing out there

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Sonny is mostly innocent but not totally off the hook in my mind, strikeouts are good way to alleviate these issues.

Agreed totally, would have been an ideal spot to notch a couple big K’s.

But damn... multiple missed double plays is tough to recover from.

WildcatFan
05-17-2021, 06:54 PM
The defense the last two years has been like watching a JV team. All these balls this inning need to be outs on a major league field. The Reds defense really puts a ceiling on this team's potential.

In fairness, those boners were made by the two best infield defenders.

traderumor
05-17-2021, 06:56 PM
The Joe West umpiring crew is stalking us. I say file a protection order.

wally post
05-17-2021, 06:56 PM
The defense the last two years has been like watching a JV team. All these balls this inning need to be outs on a major league field. The Reds defense really puts a ceiling on this team's potential.

And it really helps that our manager has a third of the team playing out of position again. I never tho0ught I would miss Dusty.

The Operator
05-17-2021, 06:56 PM
Amazing that it’s only a 1-0 game after that much buffoonery in the infield.


Let’s hope the offense came to play.

BluegrassRedleg
05-17-2021, 06:57 PM
Larkin Hex in progress. Brace yourself for a bunch of zeroes. "It doesn't matter who you throw out there." Surrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrely.

JFLegal
05-17-2021, 06:58 PM
the giants can catch the baseball. the reds can't.

The Operator
05-17-2021, 06:58 PM
Giants slappin’ the leather on us early.

Senzel scorched it but no such luck. 2 outs.

backbencher
05-17-2021, 06:59 PM
the giants can catch the baseball. the reds can't.

Some of this is just baseball. Giants get two lucky deflections, leads to a run. Reds' first two hitters rip the ball directly at guys.

JFLegal
05-17-2021, 07:00 PM
great AB from casty. love seeing him being more patient.

NebraskaRed
05-17-2021, 07:00 PM
Nice AB by Cast

The Operator
05-17-2021, 07:00 PM
Cast walks

That was a very nice plate appearance

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Some of this is just baseball. Giants get two lucky deflections, leads to a run. Reds' first two hitters rip the ball directly at guys.

You’re not wrong... sure does seem like we get baseball’d a lot more than some teams though, lol

JFLegal
05-17-2021, 07:01 PM
JFC

NebraskaRed
05-17-2021, 07:01 PM
Bell says that Moose is available off the bench

https://www.eastmojo.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/EvrefVXWYAQDJGm.jpg

The Operator
05-17-2021, 07:01 PM
Even with Cast’s walk, Giants pitcher hardly broke a sweat.

One walk and 3 very quick outs.

NebraskaRed
05-17-2021, 07:06 PM
Excellent bounce back inning

The Operator
05-17-2021, 07:06 PM
That was one hell of a recovery, Sonny.


Nice 2nd inning.

CaiGuy
05-17-2021, 07:06 PM
Gray figures he'll just block runners from 1st base from now on.

traderumor
05-17-2021, 07:09 PM
anecdotal, but it seemed like in the Rockies series, the Reds are up there swinging early and often with the starter, then start grinding AB's with the relievers...taking close pitches, fouling off pitches, long AB's. Just an observation.

The Operator
05-17-2021, 07:09 PM
Geno breaks up the no-no

Nice swing

NebraskaRed
05-17-2021, 07:11 PM
Farmer had no idea what was going on there.

The Operator
05-17-2021, 07:11 PM
Well that was some highly effective baseballing from Farmer

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Tucker with a single

1st and 2nd, 1 out

Reds Freak
05-17-2021, 07:11 PM
In fairness, those boners were made by the two best infield defenders.

Understood, although that's not saying much. I know there's gonna be miscues even at the MLB level and you're not gonna get every good hop, but I really don't think you can go deep in the playoffs and compete for a WS without great defense.

I have no stats to back this up so I'm sure someone has a few examples to prove me wrong.

CaiGuy
05-17-2021, 07:12 PM
Get that run back, India

Tom Servo
05-17-2021, 07:13 PM
a Reds play by the Giants

BluegrassRedleg
05-17-2021, 07:13 PM
Flores auditioning to be a Redleg or what?

NebraskaRed
05-17-2021, 07:14 PM
Giants are trying to act like the Reds now

The Operator
05-17-2021, 07:14 PM
Hey, the Giants pull a Reds on defense!


Bases loaded, still 1 out

Puff
05-17-2021, 07:14 PM
DH would be nice right now.

The Operator
05-17-2021, 07:14 PM
Sonny Gray grand slam incoming

757690
05-17-2021, 07:14 PM
It’s contagious

CaiGuy
05-17-2021, 07:15 PM
Sonny Gray grand slam incoming

Gotta show up Disco

The Operator
05-17-2021, 07:15 PM
Ugh I hate that low strike

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Sonny K’s


Now Winker will actually hit a grand slam

Tom Servo
05-17-2021, 07:16 PM
find some green Jesse

CaiGuy
05-17-2021, 07:16 PM
Thisis where I like and see the merit of batting your best hitter 1st.

JFLegal
05-17-2021, 07:20 PM
hard not to score off this awful pitcher. my god.

The Operator
05-17-2021, 07:20 PM
Damn


Huge missed opportunity

Tom Servo
05-17-2021, 07:20 PM
damn

was ball 4

NebraskaRed
05-17-2021, 07:20 PM
Da Wink in Da Mini Slump

The Operator
05-17-2021, 07:21 PM
hard not to score off this awful pitcher. my god.

This guy is Cy Young compared to what The Rockies ran out there. We all know how that went unfortunately.

KeefeCato
05-17-2021, 07:22 PM
First lil slump for Wink.

REDREAD
05-17-2021, 07:22 PM
hard not to score off this awful pitcher. my god.

Quoting so you see this.. your earlier question. The runner can slide in hard to second, but he has to stay on the baseline, so
it's easier for the fielder to get out of the way.

CaiGuy
05-17-2021, 07:24 PM
Understood, although that's not saying much. I know there's gonna be miscues even at the MLB level and you're not gonna get every good hop, but I really don't think you can go deep in the playoffs and compete for a WS without great defense.

I have no stats to back this up so I'm sure someone has a few examples to prove me wrong.

I have no stats or retort, I just think it's a bit cliche and said about every component of the team. You gotta have a great D. You gotta have a great bullpen. You can't win without a great rotation. You can't win without an ace. You can't win without a deep ineup. You need a good bench.

At the end of the day, you just need a great team overall.

757690
05-17-2021, 07:24 PM
Larkin just thought he complimented Casali by saying he’d be a manager like Bob Boone

NebraskaRed
05-17-2021, 07:26 PM
I'm enjoying the way Gray is handling Posey, so far.

CaiGuy
05-17-2021, 07:30 PM
So this Gray guy is pretty decent.

The Operator
05-17-2021, 07:30 PM
Sonny has settled in quite nicely.

Still 1-0 bad guys

TexasRedsFan
05-17-2021, 07:30 PM
Joe West quite generous with the outside strike calls.

KeefeCato
05-17-2021, 07:31 PM
Sonny needs a quick 8 pitch inning in the 4th.

CaiGuy
05-17-2021, 07:31 PM
Sonny needs a quick 8 pitch inning in the 4th.

If we are just dreaming up pitch counts, why not 3? ;)

NebraskaRed
05-17-2021, 07:32 PM
Every pitcher must now that Senzel is gonna swing at the first pitch.

KeefeCato
05-17-2021, 07:33 PM
If we are just dreaming up pitch counts, why not 3? ;)

Sounds even better.

Bob Sheed
05-17-2021, 07:35 PM
I like watching Castellanos hit.

Also digging Logan Webb's pornstache'.

Tom Servo
05-17-2021, 07:36 PM
ugh

BluegrassRedleg
05-17-2021, 07:36 PM
Sigh

The Operator
05-17-2021, 07:36 PM
Ugh

Geno GIDP


Another opportunity goes for naught

Mitri
05-17-2021, 07:36 PM
He's broken, guys.

NebraskaRed
05-17-2021, 07:36 PM
Another series of missed opportunities.

CaiGuy
05-17-2021, 07:37 PM
Is this Brandon Webb fresh out of retirement or what?

Alabama Red
05-17-2021, 07:37 PM
That’s just not a pitch you swing at unless there are two strikes

JFLegal
05-17-2021, 07:37 PM
suarez might be broken. has anyone discussed that?

Bob Sheed
05-17-2021, 07:37 PM
Jeez that's 12 left on base and we're only through 3 innings.

Gunner44
05-17-2021, 07:37 PM
How many DPs is that on the last week alone?

The Operator
05-17-2021, 07:39 PM
How many DPs is that on the last week alone?

Family board ;)

SomeCallMeTim
05-17-2021, 07:40 PM
Like a barfly thats half in the bag, the Reds can only score close to closing time...

JFLegal
05-17-2021, 07:40 PM
holy hell

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the reds still can't catch the baseball

The Operator
05-17-2021, 07:40 PM
Geno.

What in the absolute hell was that

Ironman92
05-17-2021, 07:40 PM
Yikes

NebraskaRed
05-17-2021, 07:40 PM
2 errors already today

BluegrassRedleg
05-17-2021, 07:41 PM
Sonny Gray not getting much help tonight.

The Operator
05-17-2021, 07:41 PM
Wild pitch moves the runner over


Bad News Reds come roaring back onto the field.

JFLegal
05-17-2021, 07:41 PM
trainwreck city.

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ballgame. see you tomorrow.

Ironman92
05-17-2021, 07:42 PM
Lord

757690
05-17-2021, 07:42 PM
Hopefully this will convince Bell to stop playing Suarez at SS

BluegrassRedleg
05-17-2021, 07:42 PM
E6, WP, HR to a .196 hitter

Yeah buddy.

The Operator
05-17-2021, 07:42 PM
Did Wilmer freakin’ Flores just take Sonny Gray yard to right field?


Yea, this ain’t our night.


3-0 Giants

mhs95_06
05-17-2021, 07:42 PM
A casual drop turns into a run immediately.

Mitri
05-17-2021, 07:42 PM
Please just end the Suarez at SS experiment, Reds. I thought I was okay with it, but it's just not working.

Kc61
05-17-2021, 07:43 PM
Don’t worry, the Rockies’ relievers will be coming in soon.

Tom Servo
05-17-2021, 07:43 PM
Flores isn't a stiff, should have been a solo HR tho

NebraskaRed
05-17-2021, 07:44 PM
Reds should have had at least 1 run by now, maybe at least 2

Puff
05-17-2021, 07:45 PM
Look at Sonny's body language. He mad yo.

Mitri
05-17-2021, 07:45 PM
Errors like that are just bad juju on the field. Totally threw Sonny off his game.

The Operator
05-17-2021, 07:45 PM
People don’t talk about Jeff Kent?

I remember hearing about him all the time during Bonds’ roid rage days.

Bob Sheed
05-17-2021, 07:45 PM
It's not LaRo-SAS, it's LaRo-ZAS... Say it right, Brantley.

Smjjaz
05-17-2021, 07:46 PM
How long do they let this trash fire at SS keep going? This is embarrassing, and a probably a big part of why Geno is scuffling at the plate.

wally post
05-17-2021, 07:49 PM
From my estimation Sonny has gotten 8 outs that were not completed by the fielders. I've turned the game off. I can't take this awful fielding.

Kc61
05-17-2021, 07:50 PM
This announcer getting all excited over an obvious foul ball.

The Operator
05-17-2021, 07:50 PM
That was never gonna be a fair ball and Sadak thought it had a chance to be a homer lol

Bob Sheed
05-17-2021, 07:50 PM
IT. COULD. GO. ALL. THE. ....foul. -Sadak

Reds Freak
05-17-2021, 07:51 PM
I don't think it's any coincidence that any good Reds team in the last 25 years all had great infield defenses. I long for the days of Rolen-Cozart-Phillips-Votto or Boone-Larkin-Reese-Casey.

The Operator
05-17-2021, 07:51 PM
From my estimation Sonny has gotten 8 outs that were not completed by the fielders. I've turned the game off. I can't take this awful fielding.

And not only that, they’ve stranded numerous runners while on offense.

Banner night all around this far.

Ironman92
05-17-2021, 07:51 PM
0-1 and India wailed at a pitch 2 ft outside

Was he anticipating a cookie on 0-1?

NebraskaRed
05-17-2021, 07:51 PM
That was never gonna be a fair ball and Sadak thought it had a chance to be a homer lol

Yeah, I cut him some slack during away games since he's not there at the ballpark, but not when he's there and can clearly see the ball going foul

The Operator
05-17-2021, 07:52 PM
This dude’s easily gonna go 7 at this rate.

Ugh

Bob Sheed
05-17-2021, 07:53 PM
we need some ground balls with eyes, I tell ya...

The Operator
05-17-2021, 07:57 PM
I love Barry Larkin. I really do.

His analysis goes juuuuust a bit overboard sometimes though.

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Nice play by Senzii at the hot corner

The Operator
05-17-2021, 08:00 PM
Yea, Joe West has been around a long time.

Way way way too long.

Ironman92
05-17-2021, 08:00 PM
I love Barry Larkin. I really do.

His analysis goes juuuuust a bit overboard sometimes though.

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Nice play by Senzii at the hot corner

Well Sadak will say Larkin is the best analyst in the galaxy here soon enough

The Operator
05-17-2021, 08:01 PM
Oh gawd

4-0 Giants on a Yastrzemski 700 foot homer

TheBigLebowski
05-17-2021, 08:01 PM
Garbage. All of them

NebraskaRed
05-17-2021, 08:01 PM
Someone let the Reds know that the Giants have a much better bullpen than the Rockies did.

Ironman92
05-17-2021, 08:02 PM
Yea, Joe West has been around a long time.

Way way way too long.

He’s that teacher every school district has that “teaches” some isolation class and makes more money than every other teacher in the district and is a pain in the ass Union leader and should’ve retired forever ago.

Smjjaz
05-17-2021, 08:02 PM
Gray is not sharp. Missing with the breaking ball, and leaving the fastball over the plate

Kc61
05-17-2021, 08:02 PM
Well Sadak will say Larkin is the best analyst in the galaxy here soon enough

He was talking Winker MVP this weekend. I thought I slept through the summer and it was September.

Tom Servo
05-17-2021, 08:02 PM
Someone let the Reds know that the Giants have a much better bullpen than the Rockies did.
At a certain point you're gonna start racking up a number of L's if you can't hit the opposing team's starter.

SomeCallMeTim
05-17-2021, 08:03 PM
Yea, Joe West has been around a long time.

Way way way too long.

I’m 54 and I feel like he’s been around since I watched the game of the week.

Did he start at 21?

NebraskaRed
05-17-2021, 08:04 PM
Sadak: "And remember that Gray is leading off at the bottom of the inning"

Survey says......maybe not

The Operator
05-17-2021, 08:05 PM
Gray is not sharp. Missing with the breaking ball, and leaving the fastball over the plate

Even then, it should maybe be a 2-0 game.

Defense has been that putrid.

NebraskaRed
05-17-2021, 08:06 PM
Sadak: "And remember that Gray is leading off at the bottom of the inning"

Survey says......maybe not

And Shogo is at bat

Alabama Red
05-17-2021, 08:07 PM
It’s time to kill the Toyota promotion or move the sign to a place where somebody can hit it.

The Operator
05-17-2021, 08:08 PM
I’m 54 and I feel like he’s been around since I watched the game of the week.

Did he start at 21?

He was born in October of ‘52 and Wikipedia has him debuting in September of ‘76.

So not quite 21, but 23 is still awfully young. He can retire any time now if you ask me.

Puff
05-17-2021, 08:08 PM
I don’t want to complain about defense, but it has been horrendous this evening.

Tom Servo
05-17-2021, 08:08 PM
It’s time to kill the Toyota promotion or move the sign to a place where somebody can hit it.
Winker hit it and they made an excuse for why it didn't count.

The Operator
05-17-2021, 08:08 PM
Winker ends his mini-skid

That’s good to see

Kc61
05-17-2021, 08:09 PM
Senzel coming up. He’s giving up too much power to make contact. His K rate is very low but the power isn’t there.

Swing away once in awhile, Nick. You’re not Juan Pierre, who used that style so well.

The Operator
05-17-2021, 08:09 PM
Winker hit it and they made an excuse for why it didn't count.

Wait... did that actually happen? For realz?

NebraskaRed
05-17-2021, 08:10 PM
I think they ended up giving someone the truck, right? But yeah, they tried to get out of it on a technicality.

SomeCallMeTim
05-17-2021, 08:10 PM
He was born in October of ‘52 and Wikipedia has him debuting in September of ‘76.

So not quite 21, but 23 is still awfully young. He can retire any time now if you ask me.

Agree. I would retire all of them from balls and strikes.

Alabama Red
05-17-2021, 08:10 PM
Winker hit it and they made an excuse for why it didn't count.
I missed that but not surprising.

JFLegal
05-17-2021, 08:11 PM
this game is murphy's law. what a bunch of bad luck, mixed with horrible baseball. and this is the result.

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Winker hit it and they made an excuse for why it didn't count.

wait, what?

Puff
05-17-2021, 08:12 PM
It’s time to kill the Toyota promotion or move the sign to a place where somebody can hit it.

The game will look odd with a Tundra parked right next to second base.

REDREAD
05-17-2021, 08:12 PM
Winker hit it and they made an excuse for why it didn't count.

Yea, that whole promotion is BS, I don't know why anyone would put the effort in to even enter the "contest".
No offense to anyone that did enter it.. But how about setting it up so that the truck actually gets given away , maybe
once every 3 years? If they give away one truck, they can just show the highlight of whoever hit the sign and make that
the ad.. "Joe Shmoe won the truck when Winker hit it.. Toyota..."

The Operator
05-17-2021, 08:12 PM
I don’t know why but Logan Webb reminds me of an even less attractive Woody Harrelson.

Alabama Red
05-17-2021, 08:13 PM
The game will look odd with a Tundra parked right next to second base.

Now that’s funny.

Bob Sheed
05-17-2021, 08:14 PM
https://static.seattletimes.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/2004065729-300x0.jpg

757690
05-17-2021, 08:14 PM
Winker hit it and they made an excuse for why it didn't count.

Actually, he missed it by 3 inches, and they decided to give it to the fan anyway.

https://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/mlb/reds/2018/06/11/reds-fan-wins-toyota-tundra-after-close-jesse-winker-home-run/690093002/

BluegrassRedleg
05-17-2021, 08:14 PM
Reds cannot retire .190s hitters of late.

JFLegal
05-17-2021, 08:14 PM
lmao, another lucky bs hit for the former new york giants.

traderumor
05-17-2021, 08:15 PM
https://media0.giphy.com/media/MVUyVpyjakkRW/giphy.gif
Reds and the .500 mark

The Operator
05-17-2021, 08:15 PM
The game will look odd with a Tundra parked right next to second base.

https://media1.giphy.com/media/3oEdvagoFRIEUcsgN2/giphy.gif

Bob Sheed
05-17-2021, 08:16 PM
India sure does turn a sharp 4-6-3.

Ironman92
05-17-2021, 08:17 PM
Reds cannot retire .190s hitters of late.

Yeah but the guys hitting .810 never reach base vs Reds pitching

NebraskaRed
05-17-2021, 08:18 PM
A team that scores most of its runs by hitting homers?

And they're coming to GABP?

What could go wrong?

Bob Sheed
05-17-2021, 08:18 PM
Giants batsmen digging GASP.

The Operator
05-17-2021, 08:19 PM
This game is Teh sUcK

Wonderful Monds
05-17-2021, 08:20 PM
I think I’ve seen my fill of Fulmer, just speaking personally

Mitri
05-17-2021, 08:20 PM
Fulmer is just bloody awful. Worse than his stats, even.

DocRed
05-17-2021, 08:21 PM
Gray....awful

Puff
05-17-2021, 08:22 PM
I’m really proud of the Reds for their late-inning comebacks at the Rockies; we can’t wait do that against a decent team.

The Operator
05-17-2021, 08:23 PM
Gray....awful

That last shot was given up by Fulmer and The Reds infield “defense” gave The Giants easily 5-7 extra outs tonight.


I’m not blaming this bad boy on Sonny.

757690
05-17-2021, 08:24 PM
The Reds have been betting they could take failed top pitching prospects and turn them into decent relievers. Results so fare have been mixed, to be polite.

DocRed
05-17-2021, 08:25 PM
BTW screw this offense...4 awful Rockies pitcher and then Logan Webb. Pathetic...

traderumor
05-17-2021, 08:25 PM
I think the schedule maker is mistaken that the Reds are still in the Western Division.

Getting the Giants twice in the first half when they are this year's pace team that will fade in the second half and end up about .500. Only San Diego left for a west coast trip.

Wonderful Monds
05-17-2021, 08:26 PM
Said it a couple days ago and then they showed me up with the comeback, but....


This team really still is just the 2019 Reds all over again. Win a game impressively, and then lose another the next day in embarrassing fashion. They’re gonna settle right in around that .500 mark.

Wonderful Monds
05-17-2021, 08:27 PM
We’re in trouble when we’re hitting Naquin third or cleanup

NebraskaRed
05-17-2021, 08:30 PM
Said it a couple days ago and then they showed me up with the comeback, but....


This team really still is just the 2019 Reds all over again. Win a game impressively, and then lose another the next day in embarrassing fashion. They’re gonna settle right in around that .500 mark.

It's possible. I think the ceiling is a bit higher for this team, but that remains to be seen.

They're also in a division that isn't great, hence them only being 2.5 games out of first right now.

Kc61
05-17-2021, 08:31 PM
Larkin talking about Reds going to the post-season.

Just call the game, guys.

Wonderful Monds
05-17-2021, 08:32 PM
I keep hearing about Geno supposedly turning it around, but over his last 10 games he’s still only hitting .163 with a .578 OPS.

Bob Sheed
05-17-2021, 08:32 PM
"Webb is really spinning em'" :lol:

BluegrassRedleg
05-17-2021, 08:32 PM
Reminder of Barry Larkin's words in the first inning: "It doesn't matter who you put out there (to face the Reds)."

000 000 ???

JFLegal
05-17-2021, 08:32 PM
jfc, farmer drills one, right at a dude. murphy's law continues. this game is complete arse. giants getting lucky for the most part (with some bad baseball from the reds mixed in).

Alabama Red
05-17-2021, 08:33 PM
I keep hearing about Geno supposedly turning it around, but over his last 10 games he’s still only hitting .163 with a .578 OPS.
I think they think If they say it enough times it will become true.

Kc61
05-17-2021, 08:34 PM
It's possible. I think the ceiling is a bit higher for this team, but that remains to be seen.

They're also in a division that isn't great, hence them only being 2.5 games out of first right now.

2019 team had a 4.18 ERA. Not 4.83.

Tom Servo
05-17-2021, 08:36 PM
Said it a couple days ago and then they showed me up with the comeback, but....


This team really still is just the 2019 Reds all over again. Win a game impressively, and then lose another the next day in embarrassing fashion. They’re gonna settle right in around that .500 mark.
The 2019 Reds never reached .500 again after starting 1-1 though lol.

I don’t know what to make of this team yet. I just know they have to do better against these starting pitchers, outside of the first week where they bashed them all it seems like they’re letting these guys go an easy 6 innings every time out.

NebraskaRed
05-17-2021, 08:36 PM
2019 team had a 4.18 ERA. Not 4.83.

But what was that team hitting vs this team?

Like I said, the comparison is valid, I just think this team can do a bit better.

membengal
05-17-2021, 08:37 PM
So...Senzel back home at 3b and look at that.

The Operator
05-17-2021, 08:38 PM
Senzii flashing some skillz at the hot corner tonight.

Bob Sheed
05-17-2021, 08:38 PM
GG 3B Nick Senzel

Ironman92
05-17-2021, 08:38 PM
Sadak is wearing on me tonight...the opposite of our boy Thommy. I don’t need the doom and gloom and groaning noises of Thom but Sadak is painting the picture very pretty and the Reds are not.

Ironman92
05-17-2021, 08:39 PM
Nice play by Senzel...though I doubt he could go back to CF and get appropriate momentum to make a good throw home [emoji16]

Kc61
05-17-2021, 08:39 PM
But what was that team hitting vs this team?

Like I said, the comparison is valid, I just think this team can do a bit better.

I guess it’s just my philosophy. You have a 4.83 team ERA, you’ll be a losing team. I don’t care how much they hit. They aren’t the ‘27 Yankees in any event.

Pitching drives the train.

Shatz1988
05-17-2021, 08:39 PM
Dang Senzel

Wonderful Monds
05-17-2021, 08:39 PM
The 2019 Reds never reached .500 again after starting 1-1 though lol.

I don’t know what to make of this team yet. I just know they have to do better against these starting pitchers, outside of the first week where they bashed them all it seems like they’re letting these guys go an easy 6 innings every time out.

That’s crazy, I genuinely remembered them trading off a game above or below all season

NebraskaRed
05-17-2021, 08:40 PM
One very long home run, but otherwise Fulmer was solid.

Bob Sheed
05-17-2021, 08:41 PM
Sadak is wearing on me tonight...the opposite of our boy Thommy. I don’t need the doom and gloom and groaning noises of Thom but Sadak is painting the picture very pretty and the Reds are not.

https://media.giphy.com/media/Cod3X0viWabsY/giphy.gif

NebraskaRed
05-17-2021, 08:43 PM
I expected Webb to at least pitch the 7th.

KeefeCato
05-17-2021, 08:44 PM
Well taking out Tucker worked really well.

Wonderful Monds
05-17-2021, 08:44 PM
.....why not just hit Stephenson there? Did I miss him already coming in the game?

Bob Sheed
05-17-2021, 08:45 PM
.....why not just hit Stephenson there? Did I miss him already coming in the game?

Exactly. Blandino shouldn't be PH for anyone who isn't a pitcher.

EDIT: I guess it ended up being pretty much the same.

Ironman92
05-17-2021, 08:46 PM
Camera man is struggling tonight

Puff
05-17-2021, 08:46 PM
What are those whispering voices of evil I hear in the background of the broadcast? Anyone else hear that?

KeefeCato
05-17-2021, 08:46 PM
.....why not just hit Stephenson there? Did I miss him already coming in the game?

So Tyler can hit 9th and the pitcher spot will hit 6th I guess. Makes zero sense.

50YrRedsFan
05-17-2021, 08:47 PM
Exactly. Blandino shouldn't be PH for anyone who isn't a pitcher.

for anyone, period.

Ironman92
05-17-2021, 08:47 PM
Good secondary lead and base running by Stephenson

KeefeCato
05-17-2021, 08:47 PM
What are those whispering voices of evil I hear in the background of the broadcast? Anyone else hear that?

I hear that as well.

Shatz1988
05-17-2021, 08:47 PM
So Tyler can hit 9th and the pitcher spot will hit 6th I guess. Makes zero sense.

Bell is a dope

Wonderful Monds
05-17-2021, 08:48 PM
Stephenson’s out there if Posey doesn’t bobble that one, whew

JFLegal
05-17-2021, 08:48 PM
on the board.

BluegrassRedleg
05-17-2021, 08:48 PM
A run! A run! A run!

NebraskaRed
05-17-2021, 08:49 PM
What are those whispering voices of evil I hear in the background of the broadcast? Anyone else hear that?

Was wondering whether I was having a stroke

Bob Sheed
05-17-2021, 08:49 PM
Yessir, now we're on the board.

KeefeCato
05-17-2021, 08:49 PM
Jesse says slump. WHAT SLUMP?

Puff
05-17-2021, 08:50 PM
I hear that as well.

It was freaking me out. Weird. Glad you heard it too.

Wonderful Monds
05-17-2021, 08:51 PM
Senzel looks noticeably more crouched in his stance than a couple weeks ago

NebraskaRed
05-17-2021, 08:51 PM
nm

KeefeCato
05-17-2021, 08:52 PM
West taking forever to ring up Senzel. Wants the attention to be on him.

mhs95_06
05-17-2021, 08:53 PM
Jesse says slump. WHAT SLUMP?

Too bad he didn't try to go oppo on the AB with the bases loaded when we were still in it and rolled over it for the 3rd out, instead of the ABs after that and had two hits.

SomeCallMeTim
05-17-2021, 08:53 PM
It was freaking me out. Weird. Glad you heard it too.

Field of bad dreams?

JFLegal
05-17-2021, 08:53 PM
walk per inning perez is on.

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WPI perez

Alabama Red
05-17-2021, 08:54 PM
I’m not hearing any voices so I’m wondering if there’s something wrong with me.

kaldaniels
05-17-2021, 08:54 PM
Future 7-time All-Star Nicklaus (yes, that’s his real name) Madrigal hit his first career home run.

He came into the game OPSing .691.

JFLegal
05-17-2021, 08:54 PM
clownville.

The Operator
05-17-2021, 08:55 PM
4 pitch walk


Perez is just flat out bad

Wonderful Monds
05-17-2021, 08:55 PM
This should be the last game Perez pitches as a Red. Jesus.