5-22-21 Reds vs Brewers 4:10pm

[Ron Madden]

Reds
1. Jesse Winker (L) LF
2. Nick Castellanos (R) RF
3. Tyler Stephenson (R) C
4. Eugenio Suarez (R) 3B
5. Kyle Farmer (R) SS
6. Alex Blandino (R) 1B
7. Scott Heineman (R) CF
8. Jonathan India (R) 2B
9. Sonny Gray (R) P

Brewers
1. Lorenzo Cain (R) CF
2. Omar Narvaez (L) C
3. Avisail Garcia (R) RF
4. Daniel Vogelbach (L) 1B
5. Travis Shaw (L) 3B
6. Willy Adames (R) SS
7. Jackie Bradley Jr. (L) LF
8. Luis Urias (R) 2B
9. Brett Anderson (L) P

[klw]

Still no Shogo, send him down and bring up Alf Rod already. Let Shogo gets some consistent playing time.

[KeefeCato]

Never like seeing the Reds face a LHP. Takes Naquins bat out of the lineup. Naquin a guy I never believed in. But he has made a believer out of me. Hope he keeps it up.

[CySeymour]

Still no Shogo, send him down and bring up Alf Rod already. Let Shogo gets some consistent playing time.

Brewers are throwing a lefty, so that explains why Shogo isn't playing today. But, yeah, overall I agree. He isn't playing, so why not let him go down and play?

[KeefeCato]

Still no Shogo, send him down and bring up Alf Rod already. Let Shogo gets some consistent playing time.

He certainly wasn't going to play today facing a LHP. I was all for Shogo starting against RHP when he came back. But like I said above Naquin has made a believer out of me. Outside of moving one of the OFer to 1B. There is no place for Shogo to play. The OFers has carried the offence.

[Ron Madden]

Let's hope Tyler Stephenson is better blocking balls in the dirt than he was the last time he caught Sonny Gray.

[UPRedsFan]

Like that Stephenson is getting multiple consecutive starts. Good move teaching him to play 1b

[757690]

Interested to see how Heineman handles CF today.

[JaxRed]

I actually have zero complaints/suggestions about today's lineup !!

[Kc61]

Hoping the lefty presents an opportunity for Suarez today.

Small sample but against LHP this year he’s 31 PAs, 3 hits, 3 walks, OPS .479.

That has to correct to some extent, he’s a career .876 OPS hitter against LHP.

[KeefeCato]

It would benefit Suarez and this team if Bell would sit him down for a few days. I know the replacements aren't great. But he needs a mental break if nothing else. Ask Larkin or one of the ex Reds greats to work with him on the side. Zinter nor Bell are helping with whatever they are doing to help him.

[Flyer Guy]

Suarez batting cleanup is nuts. He takes strikes and strikes out on the low outside pitch. He looks like the dumbest hitter in MLB.

[CySeymour]

Suarez batting cleanup is nuts. He takes strikes and strikes out on the low outside pitch. He looks like the dumbest hitter in MLB.

Have you seen the 4-8 hitters? It’s not like there’s much choice.

[Umkubas]

Reds
1. Jesse Winker (L) LF
2. Nick Castellanos (R) RF
3. Tyler Stephenson (R) C
4. Eugenio Suarez (R) 3B
5. Kyle Farmer (R) SS
6. Alex Blandino (R) 1B
7. Scott Heineman (R) CF
8. Jonathan India (R) 2B
9. Sonny Gray (R) P

Brewers
1. Lorenzo Cain (R) CF
2. Omar Narvaez (L) C
3. Avisail Garcia (R) RF
4. Daniel Vogelbach (L) 1B
5. Travis Shaw (L) 3B
6. Willy Adames (R) SS
7. Jackie Bradley Jr. (L) LF
8. Luis Urias (R) 2B
9. Brett Anderson (L) P

Go Stanford Cardinal Baseball

[NebraskaRed]

Go Stanford Cardinal Baseball

Good luck today, Alex!

[Tom Servo]

Yesterday was the Night of the Winker, perhaps today can be the Day of the Heinemann.

[Kc61]

It would benefit Suarez and this team if Bell would sit him down for a few days. I know the replacements aren't great. But he needs a mental break if nothing else. Ask Larkin or one of the ex Reds greats to work with him on the side. Zinter nor Bell are helping with whatever they are doing to help him.

It is odd that Suarez still has the most games played and PAs on the Reds. He’s played quite a bit for someone hitting in the .150’s.

But to be fair to Bell, et al, Reds have had many infield injuries.

[JaxRed]

Suarez has the most at bats BECAUSE he is playing badly. Blandino (.245 avg) has been available basically every game. But Bell has to show he supports Suarez.

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Blandino makes really nice snag on first hitter of game.

[NebraskaRed]

That inning was Gray-t

[JaxRed]

Nice 1-2-3 clean inning from Gray thanks to nice snag on first hitter.10 pitches

[RedTeamGo!]

My son had his first ever t-ball/baseball practice today. He loved it. He wanted to stay after practice and take turns hitting grounders to each other. We did this for about an hour just the two of us. Two things:

1. I forgot how dirty you get playing baseball!

2. Baseball is absolutely amazing.

[NebraskaRed]

4 pitch inning there for Anderson

[KeefeCato]

Tyler is a DP machine.

[JaxRed]

4 pitch inning there for Anderson

That was crazy. C'mon guys...

[NebraskaRed]

Anderson is on course to throw a 36 pitch complete game.

[JaxRed]

Both catchers have really cooled off.

[JaxRed]

Gray strikes out the side....

[Umkubas]

Suarez has the most at bats BECAUSE he is playing badly. Blandino (.245 avg) has been available basically every game. But Bell has to show he supports Suarez.

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Blandino makes really nice snag on first hitter of game.

Go Stanford Cardinal baseball

[NebraskaRed]

Geno makes Anderson throw over twice the amount of pitches in the first inning.

[RedsfaninMT]

Grrr. Maddux strike zone.

[JaxRed]

Ump has been pretty good so far on the close pitches. Reds go down in order.

[NebraskaRed]

Gray wants the crowd to get pizza ASAP

[REDREAD]

So a fan threw Urias' HR back on the field. Winker gets it and tosses it back in the stands.
Kind of makes me think.. What's the point in throwing a HR ball back now? I know when it first started, the guy would be cheered for doing it.
But now? It's played out, no applause.
And it must be annoying for the outfielder to chase the ball down and dispose of it..
What do you guys think? Still fun or not to toss the opposition's HR back on the field?

[757690]

Hey Larkin, this is a good discussion, but not now, Gray is struggling.

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So a fan threw Urias' HR back on the field. Winker gets it and tosses it back in the stands.
Kind of makes me think.. What's the point in throwing a HR ball back now? I know when it first started, the guy would be cheered for doing it.
But now? It's played out, no applause.
And it must be annoying for the outfielder to chase the ball down and dispose of it..
What do you guys think? Still fun or not to toss the opposition's HR back on the field?

It was a Cub thing first for years before others stole it from them. So it’s stupid on both ends.

[JaxRed]

I'd keep it.

I muted all the old school/new school stuff. Just didn't want to hear it.

[757690]

Sadak tries to bring the discussion back to the game and Larkin ignores him

[NebraskaRed]

Sadak finally shuts that conversation down. At least for now.

[NebraskaRed]

Sadak finally shuts that conversation down. At least for now.

Nevermind, he continuned.

[coryfly]

Nice play from Gray there to get out of it with just one run. Not sure Larkin even knows there is a game going on.

[757690]

So glad for that double play, mostly because it ended that discussion.

[REDREAD]

Nice DP, hopefully it ends the old school - new school conversation..

[NebraskaRed]

So glad for that double play, mostly because it ended that discussion.

For now

[JaxRed]

Hope Heineman hits today. We need a righty bat off the bench

[NebraskaRed]

Scott!

[757690]

Hope Heineman hits today. We need a righty bat off the bench

This is getting spooky.

[JaxRed]

Hope Heineman hits today. We need a righty bat off the bench

Thank you

[REDREAD]

Bell is a genius! At least for this half inning :)

[TexasRedsFan]

Heineman looks like our old pal Derek Deitrich.

[757690]

Hope Heineman hits today. We need a righty bat off the bench

Can you next hope that I start dating Natalie Portman?

[JaxRed]

Can you next hope that I start dating Natalie Portman?

I'm afraid I can't do that to Natalie.....

[NebraskaRed]

Wink!

[JaxRed]

Wink hits the lefty !!

[Alabama Red]

Heineman had good numbers in the minors and then got 50 games over two years with the Rangers and then was let go. He didn’t do well in those 50 games but with his minor league numbers you’d think they would have given him some regular playing time.

[TexasRedsFan]

Wink now leads the team in HRs, I believe.

[The Operator]

Jesse f’n Winker


Wow

[NCReds]

Would someone PLEASE get the fire department to the ballpark because Da Wink is on fire!!!!!!

[JaxRed]

I haven't checked his splits. But if he can hit lefties we can keep him for days like this, and strategic pinch hit opportunities.

[RedTeamGo!]

Heineman looks like an MMA fighter or something. Jacked. When Day said his dad was a retired cop I nodded, then he said mom is a tv producer that works with JJ Abrams and I was like “say what now?”

[NebraskaRed]

In between games, heck in between innings, the Reds need to wrap Winker in plastic.

Hire a full time team of people to carry him to and from the ballpark, make his meals, do everything for him in order to prevent him from even getting a scratch.

[REDREAD]

lol, Barry wants to go back to old school/new school..Sadak is ignoring him..

[JaxRed]

OMG, the old school stuff again....

[NatiRedGals]

I just can't listen to Sadak he yells to much tone it down my man

[NebraskaRed]

lol, Barry wants to go back to old school/new school..Sadak is ignoring him..

Seriously, make it stop.

[CrosleyVet]

Larkin has lost his mind

[TexasRedsFan]

Wow, was that close. Right next to the pole.

[KeefeCato]

I used to get so mad when Winker would sit against LHP. You can't hit them from the bench. It was plain to see that Winker could flat hit.

[The Operator]

Unfortunately Barry the broadcaster is seeming a lot like Joe Morgan 2.0


Great guy. Brilliant baseball player. Hall of Fame career and loved by all fans. But as a broadcaster, consistently seems stuck in his old ways of “this is how we played in my day” and at times doesn’t even some to appreciate the parts of his own game that made him so great during his career.


A bizarre phenomenon.

[KeefeCato]

Some wanted to see Larkin manage the team. I wish he would just go away.

[NebraskaRed]

I'm surprised Vogelbach just doesn't roll along the basepaths. Seems like it would be faster than running.

[The Operator]

Gift strike 1 to Bradley lol

[JaxRed]

Vogelbach only one base away from scoring position

[KeefeCato]

There lineup is not good. When Wily Adames is hitting anywhere but 8th you know your lineup is weak.

[REDREAD]

Larkin has lost his mind

yea, he has to realize.. no fans care about this artificial labeling..

[TexasRedsFan]

Some wanted to see Larkin manage the team. I wish he would just go away.

He will be the next Reds manager. Not saying I want that, but it feels inevitable knowing this organization.

[NebraskaRed]

Bradley Jr has never been a great hitter, but he seems to have fallen off even further.

[757690]

Larkin was making some good points, even if I don’t agree with all of them. It’s an interesting and important discussion.

But that was not the time for it, and it was completely forced.

I wouldn’t be surprised if someone told him he needed to add some controversy to his broadcasting, because that seemed too planned.

[KeefeCato]

I am so glad they didn't sign Bradley JR. He is very overrated. Great in the OF. But terrible hitter. He always seems to have one very good month each season. Which makes his season numbers look a little better than they would be. Still end up being bad numbers.

[coryfly]

He does run fairly well. Terrible slide though, lol.

[KeefeCato]

He will be the next Reds manager. Not saying I want that, but it feels inevitable knowing this organization.

Sadly your probably right.

[NebraskaRed]

He does run fairly well. Terrible slide though, lol.

Votto-esque "slide"

[JaxRed]

Just saw a closeup of "Brett Anderson". I'm pretty sure that's Dwight Schrute.

[KeefeCato]

Brewers have two stud starters but 3-5 in the rotation seem average at best.

[BUTLER REDSFAN]

What is that weird pinky kiss doctor evil thing that Stevenson does when hes at bat

[TexasRedsFan]

Tough pitch to Suarez for strike 3.

[NebraskaRed]

What is that weird pinky kiss doctor evil thing that Stevenson does when hes at bat

I think they've asked him about it and he said it was just a superstitious thing he does that has no specific meaning.

[JaxRed]

What is that weird pinky kiss doctor evil thing that Stevenson does when hes at bat

His desired salary? One MEEELION Dollars !!

[BCubb2003]

What is that weird pinky kiss doctor evil thing that Stevenson does when hes at bat

Jim Day says Stevenson doesn’t know when or why he started doing it.

[KeefeCato]

Does the front office tell Sadak and Larkin to say Geno is close to coming around?

[757690]

Unfortunately Barry the broadcaster is seeming a lot like Joe Morgan 2.0


Great guy. Brilliant baseball player. Hall of Fame career and loved by all fans. But as a broadcaster, consistently seems stuck in his old ways of “this is how we played in my day” and at times doesn’t even some to appreciate the parts of his own game that made him so great during his career.


A bizarre phenomenon.

It is ironic that both Larkin and Morgan were posters boys for new school analytics as players, and both refused to accept them as analysts.

For the record, even with his stubbornness about analytics, I loved Joe Morgan as an announcer, he was excellent at everything else. Still on the fence about Larkin, it’s early.

[BCubb2003]

Someone should ask Larkin about “base cloggers,” but not right now.

[NebraskaRed]

Stanford shout out

[TexasRedsFan]

Lead off double wasted.

[coryfly]

We finally bought my boy a good bat for his final two years of HS and I've seen him kiss it when he is on deck.

[BUTLER REDSFAN]

His desired salary? One MEEELION Dollars !!

So we have Tyler Stevenson AKA doctor evil and fat bastard's Vogelbach in the same game?

[Red Raindog]

Unfortunately Barry the broadcaster is seeming a lot like Joe Morgan 2.0


Great guy. Brilliant baseball player. Hall of Fame career and loved by all fans. But as a broadcaster, consistently seems stuck in his old ways of “this is how we played in my day” and at times doesn’t even some to appreciate the parts of his own game that made him so great during his career.


A bizarre phenomenon.

I have pretty much given up on listening to him which makes me sad


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[TexasRedsFan]

Hopefully Sonny can get through 7 with the lead. Looks like runs may be hard to come by today.

[NebraskaRed]

Wonder how the Castellinis celebrate their anniversary. Maybe dinner at the Olive Garden. A nice walk around the neighborhood afterwards.

[Red Raindog]

Wonder how the Castellinis celebrate their anniversary. Maybe dinner at the Olive Garden. A nice walk around the neighborhood afterwards.

Maybe counting the “reallocated” money......


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[JaxRed]

During the last week when Sadak thought India has adjusted back......... he's hitting .143

[BUTLER REDSFAN]

I like India but has he really done anything since the 2nd week of the season

[JFLegal]

how is blandino even on a roster?

[JaxRed]

how is blandino even on a roster?

He's had a pretty good game today. Already made 2 nice plays.

[JaxRed]

I think one ball was affected by Vogelbach's gravitation pull.

[elrojo]

The TV guys drove me crazy today with their endless discussion of "old school" and "new school" baseball.
Why it took me so long to switch to the audio overlay I can't say. My bad.

[NebraskaRed]

Joel Luckhaupt
@jluckhaupt

Only Reds hitter with 5 HR over a 2-game span: Barry Larkin (6/27-6/28/1991)

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Oh man

[elrojo]

Gets old, doesn't it?

[The Operator]

Concussion protocol for the umpire!

[TexasRedsFan]

Down an ump? Didn’t look that bad.

[JFLegal]

now umps are faking injuries? was the mask broken? that ump should be on broadway.

[NebraskaRed]

now umps are faking injuries? was the mask broken? that ump should be on broadway.

Why would he fake an injury?

[JFLegal]

Why would he fake an injury?

done working for the day. seemed like he milked it.

[JFLegal]

looked like a soccer player tbh

[JaxRed]

looked like a soccer player tbh

Stop while you're way behind...

[coryfly]

Hope he can hold this. Sucks to see him pitch so well and get so little from that bats.

[NebraskaRed]

Much rather face Bradley Jr anyway.

[The Operator]

done working for the day. seemed like he milked it.

Even if he was willing to continue, there is probably a protocol that calls for him to leave the game.


Mask or not, he took a 95 mph fastball to the face.

[JFLegal]

blandino is a scrub. just lost the game for us. say hello to josh hader. game over.

[NebraskaRed]

Oh no

[TexasRedsFan]

Dang it! Lead gone.

[Monster Man]

Why are the coach’s continuing the mask BS?

[NebraskaRed]

blandino is a scrub. just lost the game for us. say hello to josh hader. game over.

ok, see you tomorrow!

[JFLegal]

scrubdino

[REDREAD]

and of course, after Sadak reminds us that Bradley is the worst hitter with RISP in baseball, he gets the hit..

[coryfly]

Tough play but sometimes you have to make tough plays. This team often does not.

[Shatz1988]

Is Blandino one of the 5 most worthless players in the majors?

[JFLegal]

blandino can't field. but he makes up for it by being an awful hitter.

[Bruce Berenyi]

another great pickk where is lincoln curtis or don wakamatsu

[JFLegal]

that 14-minute delay was awesome.

[BCubb2003]

Urias going with the Goth look on the eye black.

[JFLegal]

Is Blandino one of the 5 most worthless players in the majors?

it's amazing he's on a roster. he wasn't even good in the minors.

[KeefeCato]

Better score now. Cause it will be Williams and Hader coming in soon.

[REDREAD]

Somewhere, banned Chuckie wishes he could post "I told you so, a backup 1b is important" :lol:

[JaxRed]

OK, all the dumpster fire posters (Legal, Shatz, Berenyi) have shown up to make the Game thread a cesspool. I'm out of this thread.............

[TexasRedsFan]

Urias going with the Goth look on the eye black.

Yeah, I thought maybe Alice Cooper had joined the Brew Crew.

[NebraskaRed]

https://media.giphy.com/media/bWS1Vh9mVkcZq/giphy.gif

Certain people waiting for the Reds to lose the lead

[TheBigLebowski]

Better score now. Cause it will be Williams and Hader coming in soon.

Williams is not the brick wall he was last year. He’s been hittable. Think
his ERA is around 4, peripherals not very good.

If it gets to Hader, we’re toast.

[TheBigLebowski]

https://media.giphy.com/media/bWS1Vh9mVkcZq/giphy.gif

Certain people waiting for the Reds to lose the lead

Corgis are my favorite things in the entire world.

[JFLegal]

casty double.

[NebraskaRed]

Winker Ks

Loser. I knew he was never going to be any good.

[REDREAD]

Nice double by Castanallos.. we're not dead yet..

[JFLegal]

tysteve RBI. 3-all.

[NebraskaRed]

Yes!

[JFLegal]

it's called reverse psychology, y'all. ;)

[TexasRedsFan]

TySteve is really coming along as a hitter!

[REDREAD]

tie game.. :jump:

[TheBigLebowski]

Steve-O

[JFLegal]

how bout you hit a HR here geno.

[coryfly]

Good job by Tyler.

Still have no clue why Saurez isn't at the bottom of the lineup.

[JFLegal]

farmer is somehow on a roster.

[TexasRedsFan]

I’d be tempted to bat Farmer ahead of Geno at this point.

[JFLegal]

jose garcia is ready to be the SS of this team, IMO.

[NebraskaRed]

Geno and Farmer are a pretty lethal combo.

[REDREAD]

I think we're going to win this one.

[JFLegal]

skyline: "we have the cheesiest commericals!"

ray st clair roofing: "hold our ruuuuf."

[JFLegal]

Geno and Farmer are a pretty lethal combo.

i hate that these two are lumped together. one is an all-star who is tied for the second-most home runs in a season in reds history with 49. the other is a guy who should be a AAA player.

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home run. and now we'll get hader. not good.

[TexasRedsFan]

So close to a run saving catch.

[The Operator]

Hembree looking a lot more human lately

Damn

[KeefeCato]

Bloom is off the rose for Hembree. Why bring in a guy who has been scored upon last 2 outing? Why not try Brach again?

[RedTeamGo!]

Gray just hasn’t been great this year. I’m starting to hope he puts together a good string of starts in late June/early July and gets traded at the deadline for a top prospect.

[BluegrassRedleg]

Beaten by Jackie Bradley and Daniel Robertson. oof

[Kc61]

Hembree looking a lot more human lately

Damn

Fly ball pitcher.

[KeefeCato]

Drunk fan waving his hand behind home looks silly.

[TheBigLebowski]

Gray just hasn’t been great this year. I’m starting to hope he puts together a good string of starts in late June/early July and gets traded at the deadline for a top prospect.

I agree. But a strange plot twist it is. We were furious when he was rumored to be on the move in the offseason. Now I think most would agree that he *should* be moved.

[Kc61]

Gray just hasn’t been great this year. I’m starting to hope he puts together a good string of starts in late June/early July and gets traded at the deadline for a top prospect.

I think very good prospect.

[TexasRedsFan]

Hembree still looks like one of the better bullpen arms, so I’m ok with the decision. That ball probably doesn’t make it out of any other ballpark.

[REDREAD]

Bloom is off the rose for Hembree. Why bring in a guy who has been scored upon last 2 outing? Why not try Brach again?

Bell has a tough call here though. Sims went yesterday. It was only the 7th inning. Probably wants to save Antone for a fireman situation.
I guess he could have used Garrett or Dolittle.. not sure those guys are much better than Hembree though.

[coryfly]

Bell has a tough call here though. Sims went yesterday. It was only the 7th inning. Probably wants to save Antone for a fireman situation.
I guess he could have used Garrett or Dolittle.. not sure those guys are much better than Hembree though.


Yeah, I'm all in on hating on Bell for virtually anything but there are only so many options and most of them are pretty pedestrian.

[TheBigLebowski]

Hembree still looks like one of the better bullpen arms, so I’m ok with the decision. That ball probably doesn’t make it out of any other ballpark.

Hembree is easily one of the best 5 pen arms we have.

[KeefeCato]

As usual it will be up to Winker and Castellanos against Williams next inning.

[Roy Tucker]

Sitting on the patio drinking a cold beer after a days worth of yard work. I’ll just follow the game from afar. Too nice of an evening to skip. Root the boys on for me. I got a feeling they’ll pull this one out.

[RedTeamGo!]

I agree. But a strange plot twist it is. We were furious when he was rumored to be on the move in the offseason. Now I think most would agree that he *should* be moved.

I was one of the few who wasn’t furious. He’s aging and has issues with his back. I would absolutely trade him this deadline if the reds are out of it.

[KeefeCato]

Hembree has been great. But now scored upon in 3 straight outings. Seems he is in a slump at the very least. I would have gone Brach there.

[KeefeCato]

Doolittle in to get the 2 LHB. Walks the first not good.

[TexasRedsFan]

One thing our bullpen seems to “excel” at is lead off walks.

[REDREAD]

Nice slider (?) by Dolittle, I wish he'd use that pitch more.

[TheBigLebowski]

I was one of the few who wasn’t furious. He’s aging and has issues with his back. I would absolutely trade him this deadline if the reds are out of it.

If they’re out of it, and they likely will be, I’d hope they’d be offering almost every decent vet and maybe Senzel.

[KeefeCato]

Do or die time now.

[Bruce Berenyi]

they always die

[Roy Tucker]

they always die

Positive vibes, man.

[The Operator]

Damn


Hell of an AB though

[KeefeCato]

Williams is plain nasty.

[TheBigLebowski]

This just seems like one of those games in which they manage to find a way to pull out.

Maybe even against Hader.

[KeefeCato]

This just seems like one of those games in which they manage to find a way to pull out.

Maybe even against Hader.

Hope so. But I can't see that weak middle of the order doing much. Seems like when Wink and Casty struck out that was it.

[CaiGuy]

Liked their chances with the 1-3 hitters there. Not seeing it in the 9th though.

[TheBigLebowski]

So Williams was at 4.11 with a 1.37 WHIP entering this game. Certainly not world beating. But he carved through our guys like a surgeon.

[KeefeCato]

Only hope may be if Hader hits Genos bat by mistake.

[TheBigLebowski]

Only hope may be if Hader hits Genos bat by mistake.

What a wonderful world that would be.

[KeefeCato]

So Williams was at 4.11 with a 1.37 WHIP entering this game. Certainly not world beating. But he carved through our guys like a surgeon.

Not sure what happened to Williams to get those stats. But you know he is nasty from last season.

[TexasRedsFan]

Reds need Votto and Moose back very badly. Just hard to compete with a lineup like today’s. 4 through 8 all look like borderline MLB hitters.

Maybe Hader will be wild and gift us one.

[Tony Cloninger]

I think these guys walk a lot of hitters because of the joke of a park this continues to be. Fly balls that are outs elsewhere. Go out here. They refuse to do anything to expand the park in the areas where they could. So they need to give psychology tests to pitchers before they allow them to pitch here.

[TexasRedsFan]

Hendrix here? Really?

[TheBigLebowski]

Not sure what happened to Williams to get those stats. But you know he is nasty from last season.

Oh, I know he is. Just pointing out that he’s not anything close to what he was last year, from a statistical standpoint. I’d take him here in half a heartbeat.

[TheBigLebowski]

Hendrix here? Really?

I don’t know who would be a more reasonable choice. Someone else mentioned it earlier, but Bell has so little to choose from. And I am not a Bell fan. Just hard to blame him here.

[TexasRedsFan]

Brach would’ve been my choice, but bravo to Jimi for getting the job done.

[TheBigLebowski]

Hendrix looked good.

Now, STANFORD CARDINAL BASEBALL is going to play the hero. I’m calling it.

[Tony Cloninger]

It’s a 1 run lead. We went through this during the 1-0 game. Antone to hold the lead and give them a chance. If you’re worried about tomorrow if he throws another 10-15 pitches. Maybe he shouldn’t be a reliever. The good ones sometimes need to go 3 straight days.

[TheBigLebowski]

Brach would’ve been my choice, but bravo to Jimi for getting the job done.

Yeah, I keep forgetting he’s here now. We’re running a lot of non-descript baseball players in and out of that pen. They’re starting to blend together into this pale pastiche against a tableau of foggy, forgettable baseball.

[Tony Cloninger]

The time it took me to write all that Hendrix retired the side. I need an admin to speed type my posts.

[Shatz1988]

I think I could get Suarez, Farmer and Blandino out.

[TheBigLebowski]

Ok, so I whiffed on that bold prediction

[TexasRedsFan]

Tough one tomorrow against Peralta. Reds need good Luis to show up in order to take the series.

[TheBigLebowski]

Tough one tomorrow against Peralta. Reds need good Luis to show up in order to take the series.

Good Luis is in the federal witness protection program. This new guy looks like him but that’s where the similarities end.

[BluegrassRedleg]

Yeah, I keep forgetting he’s here now. We’re running a lot of non-descript baseball players in and out of that pen. They’re starting to blend together into this pale pastiche against a tableau of foggy, forgettable baseball.

They’re running non-descript players all over the field with the exception of two guys.


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[Coopdaddy67]

It’s a 1 run lead. We went through this during the 1-0 game. Antone to hold the lead and give them a chance. If you’re worried about tomorrow if he throws another 10-15 pitches. Maybe he shouldn’t be a reliever. The good ones sometimes need to go 3 straight days.

He's a reliever. You want to blame someone? Blame Bob Castellini for refusing to add bullpen help in free agency, making it impossible to put him in the rotation right now.

When you might need Antone to go 2+ innings tomorrow (after 1 2/3 last night), you don't waste him in a game today when you're trailing. The fact that the Reds were looking at Hader in the 9th made that the easiest decision in the world.

If some of you were the Reds manager, Antone's arm would fall off.

Hendrix did his job and gave them a chance.

[Tom Servo]

Only saw the highlights of this one but that play by Blandino at 1B that put the Brewers ahead is tough to swallow, hard hit for sure but you figure an actual 1B makes that play the majority of the time. Not really his fault, he shouldn't be the Reds starting first baseman.

Suarez continues to just be killing the offense. Like it's honestly at the point where a random AAA guy could out produce him right now.

[Tony Cloninger]

He's a reliever. You want to blame someone? Blame Bob Castellini for refusing to add bullpen help in free agency, making it impossible to put him in the rotation right now.

When you might need Antone to go 2+ innings tomorrow (after 1 2/3 last night), you don't waste him in a game today when you're trailing. The fact that the Reds were looking at Hader in the 9th made that the easiest decision in the world.

If some of you were the Reds manager, Antone's arm would fall off.

Hendrix did his job and gave them a chance.


Fine. Today with Hader it was probably useless. The Giant game it was not. Not expecting Antone to get pitch every other day or until his arm falls off. I guess when the Reds get regular leads again we will see how he is used then. He has to pitch at least 2 days in a row at some point and maybe for 2 innings in one of them.
He has less games and innings pitched then Fullmer and Romano had going into this game.

Sure I blame Bob. In fact I will bet he’s already got the excuse in his head that due to injuries this team is better then they are and there is no need to trade anyone. Unless someone pushes back and actually speaks over him he will still be worried about trading players people like.

[Coopdaddy67]

He has to pitch at least 2 days in a row at some point and maybe for 2 innings in one of them.

He did, last weekend.


He has less games and innings pitched then Fullmer and Romano had going into this game.

So what? Suter, Feyereisen, and Rasmussen all had more IP than Hader coming into the game for the Brewers. It's about being as efficient as possible, which is even more important for a team like the Reds that has one reliable arm in its bullpen right now.

The Reds are 12-2 when Antone pitches. With Hader, the Brewers are 14-2. That's called using your best guys wisely.

When Fulmer pitches they're 5-15. Romano? 4-10. Romano and Fulmer are guys you have on the roster to eat innings and/or hope the offense busts out to take the lead from behind. When they run out of gas, you send them away and bring fresh arms in.

[DocRed]

Sonny Gray..not good. He needs to step up his game.

[Tony Cloninger]

He did, last weekend.



So what? Suter, Feyereisen, and Rasmussen all had more IP than Hader coming into the game for the Brewers. It's about being as efficient as possible, which is even more important for a team like the Reds that has one reliable arm in its bullpen right now.

The Reds are 12-2 when Antone pitches. With Hader, the Brewers are 14-2. That's called using your best guys wisely.

When Fulmer pitches they're 5-15. Romano? 4-10. Romano and Fulmer are guys you have on the roster to eat innings and/or hope the offense busts out to take the lead from behind. When they run out of gas, you send them away and bring fresh arms in.


Except Fullmer was being used more in high leverage situations. At least they figured out quickly that wasn’t going to work.


I think he should be a starter anyways. He can’t throw enough innings in the bullpen to me anyways since he can’t go enough times in the pen to ever be happy with his usage. If you can’t make some exceptions for being down 1 run in the last inning when he is getting barely any work at all you’re going to have a rusty reliever.

[Coopdaddy67]

Except Fullmer was being used more in high leverage situations. At least they figured out quickly that wasn’t going to work.

Go look at his game logs. He pitched one 9th inning when they were down a run (the one you keep complaining about) because they didn't want to waste Antone and the only other realistic option available was Doolittle. Everybody else had already pitched or threw 30ish pitches the day before.

Even in April when his results were fine he was either pitching middle innings or clean up duty.

I'm fine with thinking Antone should be a starter. He should be, but it isn't possible right now. He's the only guy Bell has that he knows has a good shot of locking up a win if they're tied or have a lead late.

[REDREAD]

Fine. Today with Hader it was probably useless. The Giant game it was not. Not expecting Antone to get pitch every other day or until his arm falls off. I guess when the Reds get regular leads again we will see how he is used then. He has to pitch at least 2 days in a row at some point and maybe for 2 innings in one of them.
He has less games and innings pitched then Fullmer and Romano had going into this game.

Sure I blame Bob. In fact I will bet he’s already got the excuse in his head that due to injuries this team is better then they are and there is no need to trade anyone. Unless someone pushes back and actually speaks over him he will still be worried about trading players people like.

That's true.. cue up the Reds' favorite line "Getting Moose and Votto back has more impact than a trade deadline deal" :lol:

[Ron Madden]

OK, all the dumpster fire posters (Legal, Shatz, Berenyi) have shown up to make the Game thread a cesspool. I'm out of this thread.............

Quoted for truth... They make the Game Threads unbearable.