5-26 & 27-21 Reds @ Nationals 2:05pm (Resumption Of Suspended Game)

[Ron Madden]

Reds
1. Eugenio Suarez (R) 3B
2. Jesse Winker (L) LF
3. Nick Castellanos (R) RF
4. Tyler Naquin (L) CF
5. Tyler Stephenson (R) 1B
6. Tucker Barnhart (L) C
7. Kyle Farmer (R) SS
8. Jonathan India (R) 2B
9. Jeff Hoffman (R) P

Nationals
1. Trea Turner (R) SS
2. Juan Soto (L) RF
3. Josh Bell (S) 1B
4. Kyle Schwarber (L) LF
5. Starlin Castro (R) 3B
6. Josh Harrison (R) 2B
7. Alex Avila (L) C
8. Andrew Stevenson (L) CF
9. Joe Ross (R) P

[Ron Madden]

Louisville Bats
@LouisvilleBats

It’s official: Vlad is headed to the Show

[CaiGuy]

Love these AB's for Ty Steve.

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Amazing that the Reds have managed to get as many catchers as third basemen in the lineup.

[KeefeCato]

Same as last night sans Hoffman. Hopefully Hoffman can go 5 give up 3 runs or less. To me that is about as good as you can expect from him. Anything better would be icing. Need to reel off 7 or 8 and get back in this thing. Cubs up next they been playing well. Time for them to lose some.

[KeefeCato]

I just noticed night game again tomorrow in DC. Then day game as always on Friday in Wrigley. You would have thought the nationals would have allowed for a day game tomorrow. That is usual procedure. I would like to see Tucker play 1b when Tyler catches. Provided they are facing a RHP. Guess they wanna give Tucker plenty of rest. Tucker over Blandino to me is a no brainer.

[Moose Herd]

I just noticed night game again tomorrow in DC. Then day game as always on Friday in Wrigley. You would have thought the nationals would have allowed for a day game tomorrow. That is usual procedure. I would like to see Tucker play 1b when Tyler catches. Provided they are facing a RHP. Guess they wanna give Tucker plenty of rest. Tucker over Blandino to me is a no brainer.

With the way Tucker has been playing, and considering he's a catcher, I really don't want him to play much more than he is now. He's already on pace to get 448 plate appearances this year, which would be the second most in his career.

[cumberlandreds]

I just noticed night game again tomorrow in DC. Then day game as always on Friday in Wrigley. You would have thought the nationals would have allowed for a day game tomorrow. That is usual procedure. I would like to see Tucker play 1b when Tyler catches. Provided they are facing a RHP. Guess they wanna give Tucker plenty of rest. Tucker over Blandino to me is a no brainer.

The Nats usually play 4 pm games when they fall like this. They did in the past anyway. I guess they aren't doing that any longer.

[Ron Madden]

The Nationals lineup has been added to the original post

[JFLegal]

i am getting so sick of seeing kyle farmer's name in the lineup. he should not be on a MLB roster.

[ok, it worked last night, going for 2-for-2 here.]

[Redsland]

Be aware that I’ll be the guy on the first base side in the red Johnny Bench jersey tonight! :-)

[DocRed]

i am getting so sick of seeing kyle farmer's name in the lineup. he should not be on a MLB roster.

[ok, it worked last night, going for 2-for-2 here.]

LOL. I'll add Hoffman is terrible and a waste of a roster spot! He's gonna get lit up tonight! Just watch.... ;)

[KeefeCato]

It sure would have been nice had the Reds signed Semien to play SS this year. He signed 1 yr 18 mil. 12 HR 30 RBIs 8 SB OPSing 886.

[DocRed]

It sure would have been nice had the Reds signed Semien to play SS this year. He signed 1 yr 18 mil. 12 HR 30 RBIs 8 SB OPSing 886.

Ya but we lucked out not signing DiDi.

[Alf_Red_E]

I turn my back for two games and all h3!! breaks loose...

Is ANY manager minors to majors putting the worst hitter in the league at #1 (because he will heat up any day now). No other Red has more plate appearances this year than Suarez.

Just freakin bat him #9 if you have no other option to play the field Tinker Bell must be giving Duh-sty a lesson on getting a guy 'warm'.

"It's really just a matter of time before he gets going" ... uhh it's June next week, tink

[traderumor]

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looks like a rain delay in the middle of the game.

[RedTeamGo!]

Love these AB's for Ty Steve.

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Amazing that the Reds have managed to get as many catchers as third basemen in the lineup.

I hope Stephenson starts doing something with those ABs…..

[Mitri]

Is Shogo hurt? Kind of a bummer he's still rotting on the bench and half his contract has already expired.

[Tom Servo]

Is Shogo hurt? Kind of a bummer he's still rotting on the bench and half his contract has already expired.
It is weird that he got a few starts, seemed to start heating up, and now can barely get a pinch hit appearance.

[westofyou]

I turn my back for two games and all h3!! breaks loose...

Is ANY manager minors to majors putting the worst hitter in the league at #1 (because he will heat up any day now). No other Red has more plate appearances this year than Suarez.

Just freakin bat him #9 if you have no other option to play the field Tinker Bell must be giving Duh-sty a lesson on getting a guy 'warm'.

"It's really just a matter of time before he gets going" ... uhh it's June next week, tink

He hit the HR that decided the game but uh yeah

[Strikes Out Looking]

It is weird that he got a few starts, seemed to start heating up, and now can barely get a pinch hit appearance.

Bell must really hate Shogo. He should be batting 1st as he was starting to hit and would make it 2 run homers for either Winker or Castellanos rather than solo shots. And Naquin is coming back to earth.

[NebraskaRed]

Wouldn't be the first time that a manager falls in love with one player and seems to forget another player exists.

I get starting Naquin more than Shogo at this point, but Shogo is barely being used at all.

[TexasRedsFan]

With Votto and Moose still out and other starters being either unreliable (cough, Suarez, cough) or just in for defense, Bell probably believes he needs Naquin's power potential in the lineup right now at the expense of Shogo.

[DocRed]

Wouldn't be the first time that a manager falls in love with one player and seems to forget another player exists.

I get starting Naquin more than Shogo at this point, but Shogo is barely being used at all.

The country of Japan is furious with David Bell...

[mhs95_06]

Winker with a good job going the other way on a well placed 2-2 pitch on the lower outside corner.

[Coopdaddy67]

It sure would have been nice had the Reds signed Semien to play SS this year. He signed 1 yr 18 mil. 12 HR 30 RBIs 8 SB OPSing 886.

At this point, I'm just glad they didn't sign Gergorius to a multiyear deal.

[mhs95_06]

Stephenson with a good test of the 3rd baseman and he passed with flying colors to end the half inning with no damage on the scoreboard.

[mhs95_06]

Brantley says Hoffman is not wild he just pitches off the plate, meaning on purpose.

[Mitri]

Hoffman walks Soto. Probably a good idea tbh.

[coryfly]

Seems like that pitch encourages the batter to beat the shift. I know you can't just pitch inside only though.

[Mitri]

Seems like that pitch encourages the batter to beat the shift. I know you can't just pitch inside only though.

Never understood leaving that much space open on the 3B side.

[JFLegal]

why does SAW-dak mispronounce so many names?

COST-ro? for castro.

[Mitri]

Hoffman looks more hittable than usual. Might be a long night.

[coryfly]

Walk, hit, and a hit brings a run in. Ball right where he wants it. Lack of control early was the key though.

[Red Raindog]

I never understood what the FO saw in Hoffman


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[JFLegal]

two really bad pitchers "battling" tonight.

how terrible is hoffman?

[Mitri]

I never understood what the FO saw in Hoffman


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It's a telling example of how wrong they did pretty much everything over the offseason. Now we are witnessing the results.

[coryfly]

This is bad. Always the chance Hoffman will be bad though. If he can get out with just one run it would be a huge win.

[coryfly]

Guy is batting .182 and Hoffman is scared of this dude.

[JFLegal]

Guy is batting .182 and Hoffman is scared of this dude.

first pitch breaking ball in the dirt. just awful. be aggressive.

[mhs95_06]

Winker thought he could throw him out, but was off the mark. Brantley says it was off the mark because Suarez, who was supposed to be the cut-off man was not in the right position being to close to 3rd base and Winker threw it toward him instead of on line to the plate.

[coryfly]

Yeah, be aggressive early against bad hitters. Getting behind can get you beat by anyone.

[JFLegal]

stupid to call another curve ball at 2-2.

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Winker thought he could throw him out, but was off the mark. Brantley says it was off the mark because Suarez, who was supposed to be the cut-off man was not in the right position being to close to 3rd base and Winker threw it toward him instead of on line to the plate.

he would have scored regardless.

[davereds24]

I never understood what the FO saw in Hoffman


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A cheap arm that could fill some innings

[JFLegal]

hoffman walks in a run. what a complete scrub.

[VR]

Would be nice to see a starter get out of the first in under 25 pitches. Maybe they are just trying to ice the opposing starter by making them sit through these high pitch count innings.

[coryfly]

Why are they not just hammering that guy with fastballs?

[JFLegal]

walked a guy that is almost unwalkable ... with the bases loaded.

this team absolutely sucks all of the suck.

[TexasRedsFan]

Good lord, Hoffman stinks. Hopefully Vlad works out and can take his place.

[Red Raindog]

It appears the Reds believe in the theory of the beatings will continue until morale improves - with Hoffman as the proof


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[mhs95_06]

Brantley says you can be the greatest pitching coach in the world, but if the pitcher won't throw it over the plate, you can't help him!

[NebraskaRed]

Hoffman finally throws a pitch in the strike zone and gets a quick out.

[NebraskaRed]

I'm surprised that Ross didn't retire during that 2 year time span known as the bottom of the 1st.

[Red Raindog]

I'm surprised that Ross didn't retire during that 2 year time span known as the bottom of the 1st.

He just signed up for Social Security
[emoji3]


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[coryfly]

Not sure why you bunt with Saurez coming up.

[Bob Sheed]

so no one knows how to bunt anymore.

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Not sure why you bunt with Saurez coming up.

so you don't hit into a dp, for one reason.

[TexasRedsFan]

Besides strikeouts, seems like Suarez should also challenge for most LOB in a season. :confused:

[coryfly]

so no one knows how to bunt anymore.

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so you don't hit into a dp, for one reason.

I understand why you bunt even with an out, to move them up and avoid the DP. I just don't think it makes sense with an almost automatic out coming up. To me it would seem having two bad hitters swing is better odds than having one bad hitter swing, even with the DP chance.

[NebraskaRed]

Geno hits a home run and it masks how awful he is the other 95% of the time that he comes to the plate.

[Bob Sheed]

I understand why you bunt even with an out, to move them up and avoid the DP. I just don't think it makes sense with an almost automatic out coming up. To me it would seem having two bad hitters swing is better odds than having one bad hitter swing, even with the DP chance.

I can't disagree, when it comes to Suarez.

.149 batting leadoff... Even Hoffman has him beat at .167.

[NebraskaRed]

Find someone who loves you the way Hoffman loves throwing outside the strike zone.

[VR]

Find someone who loves you the way Hoffman loves throwing outside the strike zone.

May want to try just pitching quicker. Snail's pace makes it all the more agonizing.

[NebraskaRed]

Throw


strikes

[InsaneinthBrame]

Yeah he is done

[Red Raindog]

Radio guys say Hoffman isn’t feeling right
I can say there’s a whole bunch of people feeling sick that are watching or listening to this performance


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[Tom Servo]

Hoffman isn't technically the worst starter around or in Reds history but he's gotta be the worst to watch, it's Chinese water torture.

[NebraskaRed]

Hoffman to the IL with dreaded "walking 5 guys in 1.1 innings disease"

[davereds24]

Hunter Greene come on down.

[Red Raindog]

If Bell won’t come and get Hoffman - Hoffman will do it for him.


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[RedTeamGo!]

Hunter Greene come on down.

It’s not happening

[Tom Servo]

Thought Goudeau would be the one to get the call from the pen but it's Brach.

[NebraskaRed]

Krall after the game: "We believe that Carson Fulmer can join the rotation and really do good work"

[Red Raindog]

Krall after the game: "We believe that Carson Fulmer can join the rotation and really do good work"

You are not funny
[emoji2961]


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[Ron Madden]

Alright Brach give us a reason to believe

[Tom Servo]

Krall after the game: "We believe that Carson Fulmer can join the rotation and really do good work"
https://www.si.com/.image/c_fit%2Ccs_srgb%2Cq_auto:good%2Cw_620/MTY4MTA0NzI3OTA5NTA4NDgw/alonzo-mourning-heat-upset-then-realizationgif.gif

[Bob Sheed]

Brach with Romano's old #47.

I might have picked a different number.

[REDREAD]

I never understood what the FO saw in Hoffman


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I think they just wanted to get SOMETHING for Robert Stephenson.
Hoffman was part of the cattle call due to shortage of arms, lack of competition is why he made the rotation

And, India makes a bad goof, sigh.. there was two outs, why not just throw to 1st.

[TheBigLebowski]

I’m no Hoffman fan, but statistically he’s not even our worst starter this season.

Still, all these garage sale reclamations were doomed to end up in the same place. DeLeon, Fulmer, Hoffman, Cionel Perez, Bedrosian, etc. Hembree will be there eventually, as will Felix & Brach. Hyper-spin driveline doesn’t know something these orgs didn’t when they flew them up the flagpole.

You dress for the job you want, and these clothes scream “I WANT TO MANAGE A MCDONALD’S.”

[757690]

More poor defense.

[KeefeCato]

Thought Goudeau would be the one to get the call from the pen but it's Brach.

Probably wanna have him start a inning clean.

[757690]

There were two outs, just go to first and end the inning. real brain fart from India.

[Alf_Red_E]

Hoffman was supposed to be back up. So where is Lorenzen anyway?

[NebraskaRed]

Whew

[NebraskaRed]

2 innings in one hour.

[REDREAD]

yea, good work for Brach to get out of that without giving up a run.
Bell was smart to put him in :)

[Strikes Out Looking]

Hoffman was supposed to be back up. So where is Lorenzen anyway?

He's at the gym, wanting to pump you up!

[mhs95_06]

Great job by Brach to strand the runners even though he had to get the 3rd out twice! Should have been a fielders choice, not a hit.
Can't give an error for a mental mistake.

[mhs95_06]

Won't be too long until the rain descends.

[757690]

Sadak and Welsh bickering like a married couple, lol

[BCubb2003]

Sadak and Welsh bickering like a married couple, lol

“That’s not your point!”

“I know my own point!”

[Alf_Red_E]

setting up the double play? ... And Hoffman walks off the mound Brockman replaces him... https://www.mlb.com/player/brad-brach-542960

[Bob Sheed]

"I'm sorry, Chris. Disco Stu knows his place."

[NatiRedGals]

Time to give up on Naquin Shogo deserves the start he should have stayed in Japan if he actually wanted to play

[coryfly]

More bad pitching. More bad defense.

[Tom Servo]

pitcher with a two out RBI hit, that's suboptimal

[RedTeamGo!]

Who didn’t see the Reds getting shut down by another garbage pitcher coming?

[mhs95_06]

Error on the throw by Castellanos as the the hitter screened Stephenson from getting to the bad throw. No damage though as Brach gets out of the inning without further damage than the one run.

[NatiRedGals]

When do we give up on zinter and try a new hitting coach? If you dont wanna spend to improve the team go out and it do something at least and zinter has been fired everywhere he goes.

[Tom Servo]

When do we give up on zinter and try a new hitting coach? If you dont wanna spend to improve the team go out and it do something at least and zinter has been fired everywhere he goes.
Sure fire him, but I'm old enough to remember when Turner Ward was the problem.

[Bob Sheed]

Lightning means they have to stop, I thought.

[Alf_Red_E]

WOW India get a DP ball and thinks so long about it he gets no one. Bases loaded, but no damage after 2

[Bob Sheed]

Or maybe that's little league soccer...

[Tom Servo]

Rain delay. NBA and NHL playoff games are on, not sure if I'll come back to this one based on what we've seen so far.

[Strikes Out Looking]

I live about 10 miles from Nats Park - its pouring here and heading that way. It's going to be at least an hour for it to come through and its a lot of water coming down very fast.

[SomeCallMeTim]

Who didn’t see the Reds getting shut down by another garbage pitcher coming?

Hoffman would shutdown the Reds if he wasn’t pitching for them….

[KeefeCato]

Hoffman would shutdown the Reds if he wasn’t pitching for them….

Na he would walk too many and Winker and Casty would go yard.

[Ron Madden]

I'm gonna watch Dodgers @ Astros while this game is delayed

[Bruce Berenyi]

hoffman is worse than tim pugh and kevin jarvis combined

[Bob Sheed]

https://media.giphy.com/media/l0HlPwMAzh13pcZ20/giphy.gif

[texasdave]

hoffman is worse than tim pugh and kevin jarvis combined

Jeff Hoffman would ask for Mike 'Buffy' LaCoss's autograph.

[Ron Madden]

Jeff Hoffman left tonight's game with right shoulder soreness.



C. Trent Rosecrans @ctrent
Riley O'Brien started for AAA Louisville today. He's given up a run on 4 hits over 5 innings (with four walks and five strikeouts). Tony Santillan started Sunday. Both are on the 40-man. Reds do hope to have Wade Miley ready for Sunday

[Red Raindog]

Jeff Hoffman left tonight's game with right shoulder soreness.

Absolutely do not want to wish him ill but I’m hoping his next appearance is with a different organization


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[Tony Cloninger]

Guy is batting .182 and Hoffman is scared of this dude.

Understand if it’s in GABP but at this park. This experiment is over. The guy is scared to pitch up here.

[Tony Cloninger]

Sure fire him, but I'm old enough to remember when Turner Ward was the problem.

You know who wasn’t a problem. Chris Chambliss. He’s the only HC that I can remember on RZ that had almost 100% approval. Preached patience with an aggressive approach. That doesn’t make sense but everyone loved him. Except Marty Pattin.

[Tom Servo]

Understand if it’s in GABP but at this park. This experiment is over. The guy is scared to pitch up here.
Maybe but I find it interesting his BB/9 right now is way higher than it was even in Colorado. So I don't know if it's that he's scared but rather that his mechanical consistency isn't there, because at other times (which are becoming more rare) he looks pretty good.

I could live with starts like his last one where he slogged and was a bit of a WHIP monster but only bent and didn't break. Obviously starts like this one are disastrous.

[Tony Cloninger]

Maybe but I find it interesting his BB/9 right now is way higher than it was even in Colorado. So I don't know if it's that he's scared but rather that his mechanical consistency isn't there, because at other times (which are becoming more rare) he looks pretty good.

I could live with starts like his last one where he slogged and was a bit of a WHIP monster but only bent and didn't break. Obviously starts like this one are disastrous.


I’m starting to agree on some points with RTG. How valuable is this pitching coach? Or how bad are these pitchers.

[Ron Madden]

Watching Trevor Bauer pitch vs Houston.
Man, I miss that guy.

[PuffyPig]

Who didn’t see the Reds getting shut down by another garbage pitcher coming?

Well they do have the third most runs in the NL, and have 3 regulars out of the lineup.


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[Ron Madden]

I’m starting to agree on some points with RTG. How valuable is this pitching coach? Or how bad are these pitchers.

Blaming Derek Johnson is one of the dumbest things ever posted on RZ

[TheBigLebowski]

Blaming Derek Johnson is one of the dumbest things ever posted on RZ

It may be an incorrect theory, but there is an undeniable nexus between a pitcher and a pitching coach. Otherwise there’s no point in having them.

Johnson may indeed be without fault, but it’s not a “dumb” topic to explore.

[757690]

Derek Johnson coached this franchise’s only Cy Young winner. So if he gets blamed for Hoffman, he should get credit for Bauer.

(For the record, I am for neither)

[Ron Madden]

It may be an incorrect theory, but there is an undeniable nexus between a pitcher and a pitching coach. Otherwise there’s no point in having them.

Johnson may indeed be without fault, but it’s not a “dumb” topic to explore.

LOL, Just thought I'd join in on the Hot Takes and Overreaction.

[PuffyPig]

It may be an incorrect theory, but there is an undeniable nexus between a pitcher and a pitching coach. Otherwise there’s no point in having them.

Johnson may indeed be without fault, but it’s not a “dumb” topic to explore.

I think it is.

The suggestion is that a great pitching coach can turn turds into studs.

If that was anywhere close to being true, such a pitching coach would be the highest paid man in baseball.


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[Coopdaddy67]

Blaming Johnson is no different than people blaming Gullett back in the day.

When you give a pitching coach junk, expect it to perform accordingly in most cases.

[DocRed]

Hoffman is awful....release him already,.

[redsfan9988]

Absolutely do not want to wish him ill but I’m hoping his next appearance is with a different organization


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I'm willing to keep Hoffman around and see what he has - he's cheap and controllable - but I agree that he really doesn't cream my twinkie at this point. He's throwing an average FB (~94 mph) 55% of the time, with a selection of off-speed stuff (SL, CB, CH) that he throws at roughly equal intervals. Nothing he throws is plus, and his fastball command is average at best. His stuff isn't good enough to generate swings-and-misses out of the zone, and he can be wild in the zone with the fastball and change - which makes him susceptible to getting barreled. That, in combination with the fact that he's already walked the world by the time we get to that point... doesn't bode well. His stuff can play (as a #4-type starter) if he commands better. TBH, though, his repertoire reminds me a bit of Lucas Sims's when he was starting. Maybe send him to Louisville to prep as a short reliever,. If he can squeeze 96-97 out of his FB in short bursts (Like Sims), and learn to command a bit better - he could be a decent reliever.

I mean... the guy was a flyer we got for Robert Stephenson. It's not like we're invested in him as a long-term cog in the rotation. Let's squeeze some value out of him that doesn't involve him walking 15 Nationals...

[RedTeamGo!]

Blaming Derek Johnson is one of the dumbest things ever posted on RZ

Please quote where someone blamed Derek Johnson. I certainly have not. I asked why he gets a pass. Totally different.

[TheBigLebowski]

I think it is.

The suggestion is that a great pitching coach can turn turds into studs.

If that was anywhere close to being true, such a pitching coach would be the highest paid man in baseball.


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It’s a very results based, molar form of analysis, and again - I do not think he’s the issue. But it’s a topic that at least bears some sort of evaluation.

[RedTeamGo!]

I think it is.

The suggestion is that a great pitching coach can turn turds into studs.

If that was anywhere close to being true, such a pitching coach would be the highest paid man in baseball.


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Since DJ was hired every time the reds traded for or picked up a turd many reds fans said “DJ is a pitching whisperer. He has a high spin rate, DJ must see something in him.”

I’ve simply been asking recently: perhaps that is not the case, and we have also seen Luis Castillo go from being one of the best pitchers in the NL to the literal worst under his watch. I simply would like to know why DJ is getting a pass.

[Ron Madden]

LOL

Jesse Dougherty
@dougherty_jesse
There is a nude streaker at Nationals Park who just climbed into the tarp roller.

[redsfan9988]

Since DJ was hired every time the reds traded for or picked up a turd many reds fans said “DJ is a pitching whisperer. He has a high spin rate, DJ must see something in him.”

I’ve simply been asking recently: perhaps that is not the case, and we have also seen Luis Castillo go from being one of the best pitchers in the NL to the literal worst under his watch. I simply would like to know why DJ is getting a pass.

I think Castillo is either tipping his pitches or he's just too predictable. He's never has next-level command. He misses inside the zone all the time. Always has. His ability to change speeds and cut his fastball at high velocity has allowed him to succeed despite mediocre command, but now that's come crashing down. I think he needs to develop his slider and use it early and often to keep guys off his fastball. Set up the FB/CH combo by generating early strikes with the slider.

As for Johnson... I'm pleased with his overall results to this point. It's not like we have a stable of high-priced FA starters who are stumbling. I think he's done a nice job with Gray, Mahle, and Miley and is solid in whatever capacity a pitching coach can be.

[KeefeCato]

LOL

Takes all kinds.

[757690]

LOL


Jesse Dougherty
@dougherty_jesse
There is a nude streaker at Nationals Park who just climbed into the tarp roller.


Be aware that I’ll be the guy on the first base side in the red Johnny Bench jersey tonight! :-)

It seems Redsland had one too many Port City lagers

[JFLegal]

no worries about derek johnson. he just somehow inherited luis castillo ... and now castillo completely sucks. i think we should only praise the pitching coach when things go well and ignore it when he turns a borderline ace (#2 at worst) into what we're seeing this year.

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what's the deal with this game? we playing baseball tonight? i hope not.

[Tony Cloninger]

Blaming Derek Johnson is one of the dumbest things ever posted on RZ

Oh you haven’t seen my whole posting history. Feel free to browse.

[JFLegal]

usual rules apply, or has MLB effed that up too? if this game gets rained out tonight, it's like nothing ever happened, right? at least as far as tonight is concerned.

[Tony Cloninger]

Derek Johnson coached this franchise’s only Cy Young winner. So if he gets blamed for Hoffman, he should get credit for Bauer.

(For the record, I am for neither)


As always I blame those who voted for Kodos.

[Bob Sheed]

As always I blame those who voted for Kodos.

I, for one, welcome our new insect overlords.

[Bruce Berenyi]

hire guy hoffman instead

[kaldaniels]

Sadak and Welsh bickering like a married couple, lol

“I told you that pear was washed!”

[JFLegal]

looks like the rain has moved out of our nation's capital.

[KeefeCato]

Game will end later than a west coast game.

[Ron Madden]

Bobby Nightengale @nightengalejr
Nats Park videoboard: "We continue to see isolated scattered lightning behind the departing line of storms. We remain in a delay until storms pass."

[JFLegal]

call it! lol

[JFLegal]

radar is showing everything has passed. but who knows.

[mhs95_06]

Rather than finishing it tomorrow afternoon ahead of the regular game, they want to get it in tonight.

[Ron Madden]

Bobby Nightengale @nightengalejr
Nats Park videoboard: "We continue to see isolated scattered lightning behind the departing line of storms. We remain in a delay until storms pass."


Logan Morris @Loganity
Sounds like they could play??

Whistling Batter @WhistlingBatter
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“we are also still trying to get the naked guy out of the tarp roll, but let’s call it ‘lightning’”

[Coopdaddy67]

Looks like it's going to get suspended. They're taking equipment out of the bullpens.

[Tony Cloninger]

Good call.

[mhs95_06]

So how many innings for each game tomorrow?

[JFLegal]

how is it suspended if it's under 5 innings? should just be a re-start (unless they changed the rules).

[757690]

So how many innings for each game tomorrow?

If they make them both 7 inning games, that really helps the Reds.

[JFLegal]

i might be off with my verbiage. i take "suspended" to mean the game would be picked up where it left off. unless they changed the rules, it should be like nothing happened tonight.

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If they make them both 7 inning games, that really helps the Reds.

also wiping out a 3-0 deficit for the reds would not suck.

[JFLegal]

oh christ, new rule that all games can be picked up where they left off.

so much for this crapshow being wiped from the books. looks like game will be picked up tomorrow with reds losing 3-0 in the top of the 5th.

[Reds Fanatic]

So how many innings for each game tomorrow?

I think the suspended game they have to play the full game

[JFLegal]

balls. 3-0 game will be resumed at 2 tomorrow. then a 7-inning game tomorrow night.

[Reds Fanatic]

Suspended game resumes at 2:05 tomorrow and regular game at 7:05

[JFLegal]

I think the suspended game they have to play the full game

yes, they do.

[JFLegal]

and regular game at 7:05

7-inning game for the nightcap.

[mbgrayson]

"Cincinnati Reds
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Tonight's Reds-Nationals game at Nationals Park has been suspended after 3 1/2 innings. The game will resume at 2:05 p.m. ET tomorrow and be played to nine innings. Thursday's regularly scheduled game is scheduled for 7:05 p.m. ET and will be played to seven innings."

[757690]

Not the worst. This gives the Reds 5 innings to come back in game one, and a 7 inning game helps the Reds considering their pen problems.

[REDREAD]

Not the worst. This gives the Reds 5 innings to come back in game one, and a 7 inning game helps the Reds considering their pen problems.

Agreed, having 2 less innings for the bullpen to pitch tomorrow really helps the Reds.
Maybe overnight they can trade for Romano and let him finish game 1 :)

[Ron Madden]

Bobby Nightengale @nightengalejr

Reds will play 2.5 games in a 24-hour stretch, beginning with the resumption of their suspended game tomorrow.

Dave Martinez said that the Nationals and Reds will get a 27th player for the night game tomorrow, but not the suspended one beginning at 2:05 p.m.

Tonight's suspended game will be 9 innings once it's completed. Tomorrow's regularly scheduled game will be 7 innings.

[BluegrassRedleg]

Am I “misremembering” this, or didn’t they used to just wipe out games that were rained out before the 5th and start from fresh?


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[BluegrassRedleg]

I kinda thought they’d wipe out today and play two 7s tomorrow.


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[Ron Madden]

Am I “misremembering” this, or didn’t they used to just wipe out games that were rained out before the 5th and start from fresh?


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They changed the rules

[KronoRed]

I actually like that rule, wiping out games in progress always seemed wrong.

[757690]

According to Twitter, both teams will get a 27th player for the 7 inning game, but not the completed one.

[Hamilton95]

usual rules apply, or has MLB effed that up too? if this game gets rained out tonight, it's like nothing ever happened, right? at least as far as tonight is concerned.

MLB has ****ed that one up.

[Big Klu]

According to Twitter, both teams will get a 27th player for the 7 inning game, but not the completed one.

Why do you need a 27th player if you're cutting two innings off the length of the game?

[Tony Cloninger]

I, for one, welcome our new insect overlords.

Oh Kent Brockman you really did a hot take on that call.

[Daniel Dravot]

The continued presence of Suarez and Castillo in the order is the embodiment of Einstein’s definition of insanity.

Castillo is fooling nobody, while Suarez is being fooled by everybody.

The only thing worse than being bad is being mediocre.

[PuffyPig]

The continued presence of Suarez and Castillo in the order is the embodiment of Einstein’s definition of insanity.

Castillo is fooling nobody, while Suarez is being fooled by everybody.

The only thing worse than being bad is being mediocre.

It’s not like they are holding back Babe Ruth and Nolan Ryan to play these guys. They Reds are already littered with injuries.

For the Reds to have any chance, these guys need to produce.


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[757690]

Why do you need a 27th player if you're cutting two innings off the length of the game?

Because they will have just played a 5 inning game earlier in the day. The teams will be playing 12 innings overall.

[REDREAD]

Am I “misremembering” this, or didn’t they used to just wipe out games that were rained out before the 5th and start from fresh?


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I am not sure what point they switched over.. But this suspended game thing .. where they just continue where they left off, seems to be the norm now.
I can't even remember when the last time they wiped out a game and started over was.. I Remember, years ago, they would just "call" the game before 9 innings and declare a winner, but that's been a long time too.. Marty used to always say stuff like "well, at least the game is now official" when rain was threatening.. but even most of those, I don't remember many actually being called (since I was a kid).

[cumberlandreds]

Because they will have just played a 5 inning game earlier in the day. The teams will be playing 12 innings overall.

They should just put ghost runners on to start the first inning of each game. Then the first team to lead after that inning wins and we all go home early. :)

[KeefeCato]

Sorry double post.

[KeefeCato]

Can anyone else ever remember two teammates who were really good in the past, but then both fall off the cliff as fast as Castillo and Suarez has? There has been a bunch of players that went from really good to bad fast but I can't think of two teammates. We are not counting any player who got injured. Because neither of these guys are.
Are Castillo and Suarez both 10 years older than they say they are? Doubtful but they are playing like 40 year old vets who are at the end of the line.

[Big Klu]

Can anyone else ever remember two teammates who were really good in the past, but then both fall off the cliff as fast as Castillo and Suarez has?

Thelma and Louise.

https://i1.wp.com/dennisghurst.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/Thelma-and-Louise-ending-..-May-7-2019.jpg?fit=602%2C401&ssl=1

[Alf_Red_E]

Can anyone remember the last time a guy was at the very bottom of the league in BA and yet leads the team in plate appearances and is moved to lead off because he's going to start hitting sometime?

Never in my life as a Reds fan, doubt even the Cubs were dumb enough to try that.

[DocRed]

Can anyone remember the last time a guy was at the very bottom of the league in BA and yet leads the team in plate appearances and is moved to lead off because he's going to start hitting sometime?

Never in my life as a Reds fan, doubt even the Cubs were dumb enough to try that.

Well not exactly...but Francisco Lindor has the most PA's for the Met's and his OPS is worse than Suarez's at .565, BA a bit better at .185. He's still hitting 2nd in their lineup.

[DocRed]

No TV for game 1 I assume?

[Ron Madden]

We'll keep this thread open and use it for the resumption of last night's suspended game.

First Pitch scheduled for 2:05pm

[KeefeCato]

No TV for game 1 I assume?

Bally App has game listed no pregame. Says 2pm.

[cumberlandreds]

Can anyone remember the last time a guy was at the very bottom of the league in BA and yet leads the team in plate appearances and is moved to lead off because he's going to start hitting sometime?

Never in my life as a Reds fan, doubt even the Cubs were dumb enough to try that.

Enzo Hernandez probably did for the Padres in 1971. He had 512 AB's but only 12 RBI and OPS's 545. His BA was 222 which is far better than Suarez's current average.

[KeefeCato]

Enzo Hernandez probably did for the Padres in 1971. He had 512 AB's but only 12 RBI and OPS's 545. His BA was 222 which is far better than Suarez's current average.

He was a rookie that year and was never any good. I am talking a pair of teammates like Suarez and Castillo who were really good and dropped off to terrible fast. Without being old or injured.

[Ron Madden]

Bally App has game listed no pregame. Says 2pm.

Game is on and about to start now.

[cumberlandreds]

Cionel Perez is starting the first game. God help us all............

[KeefeCato]

Already down and Bell goes with Perez. Why not Hembree or Feliz?

[cumberlandreds]

Looks like extreme social distancing in Nats Park.

[cumberlandreds]

He was a rookie that year and was never any good. I am talking a pair of teammates like Suarez and Castillo who were really good and dropped off to terrible fast. Without being old or injured.

I was answering Alfred_E's question. I have no idea about what you asked. I'm sure there has been at some point in baseball history. Just don't know who.

[757690]

Perez looking sharp so far…

[KeefeCato]

You would think Josh Bell would just give up switch hitting. Perez showing how good he could be on the rare games when he throws strikes.

[757690]

Easy inning for Perez. When he throws strikes, he’s quite effective.

[cumberlandreds]

Miracles never cease. Easy inning for Perez.

Also a different umpiring crew from last night.

[cumberlandreds]

Shogo makes an appearance,PHing for Perez.

[DocRed]

Nice hit by Geno

[cumberlandreds]

Suarez liking that leadoff spot, a single for him.

[klw]

Nice to see a single for Suarez!


Curious as to using Perez for one inning? Why not give Brach another inning? Why not bring up someone who could go multiple innings? Surely they knew the game situation and had a plan. Enquiring minds want to know.

[DocRed]

Bonehead decision by Winker. Not the first time he's done that...

[cumberlandreds]

Wink why?

[KeefeCato]

WHY JESSE WHY? Casty coming up as tying run just insane.

[757690]

Winker’s believing his own headlines about his increased speed.

[elrojo]

Right. No fine is big enough for the bonehead play, especially because he is a repeat offender.

[JaxRed]

Key thing I want to see from Hendrix here is no walks....

[cumberlandreds]

Hendrix with a perfect inning.

[Tom Servo]

Nats offense looks a lot worse when Hoffman isn't walking everybody. Can the offense now make any hay against their bullpen?

[CaiGuy]

I don't usually believe in bullpen prospects (as opposed to converted starters), but all Hendrix has done as a pro is dominate.

Dude looks really solid to my untrained eye.

[JaxRed]

I don't usually believe in bullpen prospects (as opposed to converted starters), but all Hendrix has done as a pro is dominate.

Dude looks really solid to my untrained eye.

I think he just need to ensure he throws strikes.

[Tom Servo]

offense across the board in MLB is brutal right now

[Ron Madden]

C. Trent Rosecrans @ctrent

So, it seemed to me that the #Reds had made a lot of outs on the bases this year. So, I looked it up. Winker’s play was the 12th, one less than MLB average. Only 6 teams have fewer. Yankees have 23, Giants lead NL with 18

Oh, and they’re third in NL, 5th in MLB in OBP, so.. yeah, I anticipated your retort

Now, that number doesn’t include caught stealing and pick off numbers. There they are terrible.
Only 3 teams have been picked off more (4)

[CaiGuy]

I think he just need to ensure he throws strikes.

Yeah, 76 walks in 176 innings in the mostly low minors isn't the best sign.

[KeefeCato]

offense across the board in MLB is brutal right now

It really is. Seems a couple times a week you see a high scoring game. I think that has more to do with how bad the last couple bullpen arms are for each team. Rather than great hitting.
Also it makes what Castellanos and Winker are doing even more impressive.

[JaxRed]

Garcia with a soft triple. Could use a K here.

[Tom Servo]

Hit em where they ain't

4-0 Nats

[Ron Madden]

Getting blooped to death

[Joeyjection19]

It's been a blast seeing how quickly the Reds can destroy Sadak's optimism.

[Ron Madden]

It's been a blast seeing how quickly the Reds can destroy Sadak's optimism.

He seems pretty upbeat to me

[JaxRed]

Goudeau was a starter in AAA. Like to see him bring this one home. Don't burn the pen.

[klw]

Does Bell know he can make a pitching change without making it a double switch?

[Tom Servo]

Does Bell know he can make a pitching change without making it a double switch?
where's the fun in that?

[KeefeCato]

Does Bell know he can make a pitching change without making it a double switch?

Pretty sure he thinks it is against the rules. I would love for the Reds to have a base stealing threat like Turner.

[NebraskaRed]

Does Bell know he can make a pitching change without making it a double switch?

The sad thing is that the double switch no longer gives him the thrill that he needs. He's researching the elusive quintuple switch.

[klw]

C. Trent Rosecrans @ctrent

So, it seemed to me that the #Reds had made a lot of outs on the bases this year. So, I looked it up. Winker’s play was the 12th, one less than MLB average. Only 6 teams have fewer. Yankees have 23, Giants lead NL with 18

Oh, and they’re third in NL, 5th in MLB in OBP, so.. yeah, I anticipated your retort

Now, that number doesn’t include caught stealing and pick off numbers. There they are terrible.
Only 3 teams have been picked off more (4)

In addition to 4th in the league in being caught stealing the Reds have the fewest stolen bases and are the only team with more CS than SB.
https://www.mlb.com/stats/team/caught-stealing

[Ron Madden]

Does Bell know he can make a pitching change without making it a double switch?

Yes but the Reds need at least 5 runs now with just 3 innings to go. Stephenson made the last out so it makes sense to move the pitchers spot in the batting order as far away as possible

[KeefeCato]

Taking out Stephenson's bat for Schrock. Just insanity. Not going to matter though 5-0 now.

[NebraskaRed]

Petition to force MLB TV to stop airing that Allstate "Let's make lots of money" commercial.

[CaiGuy]

Time to roll this one over and go for the rubber game.

[BluegrassRedleg]

9 outs left, down 5, yeah, let's bunt.

[KeefeCato]

That looks like a nice park in DC. I was by it once but never saw a game there.

[Joeyjection19]

Petition to force MLB TV to stop airing that Allstate "Let's make lots of money" commercial.

Only as long as it's not replaced with the "I hope dinosaurs like salmon" Buick (or whatever) commercial.

[Tom Servo]

Its so cool how Farmer is quickly rising the ranks of most PAs for the Reds this season behind Winker/Castellanos/Suarez.

[BluegrassRedleg]

That looks like a nice park in DC. I was by it once but never saw a game there.

It's nice. Definitely recommend it, if you get a chance.

[BCubb2003]

Today I learned, walks will haunt 80% of the time.

[Strikes Out Looking]

That looks like a nice park in DC. I was by it once but never saw a game there.

It's a nice park - however if you to a game that is in the day or when the sun is still up, check the seat location. It can be awful in direct sunlight in the summer.

[DocRed]

Nice AB by India

[Tom Servo]

The results aren't quite there but I feel like India's PAs are looking good these days, he's got a pretty good idea up there. Just needs to barrel some more balls.

[NebraskaRed]

Maybe the Reds could invest in a weather machine that could create huge thunderstorms any time they want to suspend a game because they're facing a good starter.

Well, that's mostly any starter they face.

[Ron Madden]

Back to Back singles for Geno and Da Wink

[CaiGuy]

On the other hand, they could finally win the Rainey trade with a six-spot here.

[Ron Madden]

RBI single Castellanos

[NebraskaRed]

Tanner Rainey really helping out his old team

[Tom Servo]

perhaps the comeback is on...

[757690]

Within slam range

[Ron Madden]

Naquin bloop single loads the bases

[Tom Servo]

Payton stinks.

[NebraskaRed]

God Payton sucks

[TexasRedsFan]

Thanks Bell for giving away an out. Why is Payton on the roster again?

[757690]

What happened to Mike Freeman? He has to be better than Payton or Schrock

[CaiGuy]

At least he didn't make contact there (or couldn't)

[Big Klu]

Its so cool how Farmer is quickly rising the ranks of most PAs for the Reds this season behind Winker/Castellanos/Suarez.

In 1989, Luis Quiñones was fourth on the club in PA's -- behind Todd Benzinger, Eric Davis and Paul O'Neill.

In 1993, Jeff Branson was sixth on the club in PA's -- behind Chris Sabo, Reggie Sanders, Joe Oliver, Barry Larkin, and Hal Morris.
(Larkin had only 28 more PA's than Branson, and Morris had only nine more.)

Injuries are a bear to deal with.