5-29-21 Reds @ Cubs 2:20pm

[Ron Madden]

Reds
1. Eugenio Suarez (R) SS
2. Jesse Winker (L) LF
3. Nick Castellanos (R) RF
4. Tyler Naquin (L) CF
5. Tyler Stephenson (R) C
6. Max Schrock (L) 3B
7. Jonathan India (R) 2B
8. Luis Castillo (R) P
9. Alex Blandino (R) 1B

Cubs
1. Joc Pederson (L) LF
2. Kris Bryant (R) 1B
3. Javier Baez (R) SS
4. Ian Happ (S) CF
5. Willson Contreras (R) C
6. Rafael Ortega (L) RF
7. David Bote (R) 3B
8. Eric Sogard (L) 2B
9. Zach Davies (R) P

[NatiRedGals]

���� but thanks for always being on time Ron!

[Strikes Out Looking]

Did David Bell once have bad sushi? Just trying to figure out his outright dislike of Shugo- two days ago he humiliated him by pinch hitting for him during a pinch hitting appearance. The guy is a contact hitter with a high OBP. He needs to play more than once a week to get his timing back.

And Tyler "the pumpkin" Naquin can sit for a while.

[757690]

We’ve now reached the point where Kyle Farmer is getting scheduled days off.

[Moose Herd]

Did David Bell once have bad sushi? Just trying to figure out his outright dislike of Shugo- two days ago he humiliated him by pinch hitting for him during a pinch hitting appearance. The guy is a contact hitter with a high OBP. He needs to play more than once a week to get his timing back.

And Tyler "the pumpkin" Naquin can sit for a while.


Naquin has a .797 OPS in May, that's not much of a pumpkin.

[DocRed]

Schrock, Blandino and Farmer....it's like picking the lesser of evils at this point. Can't wait for Votto and Moose to get back. Zero updates on Moose lately makes me think he is gonna be a while.

[DocRed]

Did David Bell once have bad sushi? Just trying to figure out his outright dislike of Shugo- two days ago he humiliated him by pinch hitting for him during a pinch hitting appearance. The guy is a contact hitter with a high OBP. He needs to play more than once a week to get his timing back.

And Tyler "the pumpkin" Naquin can sit for a while.

I'm a Shogo fan but its hard to hit a guy that has zero power and isn't hitting.

[KeefeCato]

Is there a strong wind blowing in again?

[SomeCallMeTim]

Schrock, Blandino and Farmer....it's like picking the lesser of evils at this point. Can't wait for Votto and Moose to get back. Zero updates on Moose lately makes me think he is gonna be a while.

It’s the infield version of the triumvirate of Redus, Milner, and Householder is what it is…. Sad.

[KeefeCato]

I don't get the constant calls for Shogo to play. I used to be one of them myself. But with what Naquin has done he has won the CF job. Shogo will not have 10 HRs in his career. He wouldn't hit 10 is he played every day for 3 years.
He is a okay 4th/5th OFer. Anyway you look at him he was a bad signing for a supposed cash strapped Reds team.

[Moose Herd]

I don't get the constant calls for Shogo to play. I used to be one of them myself. But with what Naquin has done he has won the CF job. Shogo will not have 10 HRs in his career. He wouldn't hit 10 is he played every day for 3 years.
He is a okay 4th/5th OFer. Anyway you look at him he was a bad signing for a supposed cash strapped Reds team.

The Reds aren't "cash strapped", they are cheap. There's a difference.

[KeefeCato]

The Reds aren't "cash strapped", they are cheap. There's a difference.

That is why I said supposed to be. No MLB owner is cash strapped.

[NebraskaRed]

I'm a Shogo fan but its hard to hit a guy that has zero power and isn't hitting.

It makes sense to start Naquin more, but how can we say that Shogo isn't hitting when he barely gets any chances?

I mean yeah, he literally isn't hitting because he never plays.

[757690]

It’s the infield version of the triumvirate of Redus, Milner, and Householder is what it is…. Sad.

Just to be precise, it was Hurdle, Milner and Householder. Redus came a few years later.

[KeefeCato]

Just to be precise, it was Hurdle, Milner and Householder. Redus came a few years later.

Hurdle only last the first couple of months.

[JaxRed]

Hurdle only last the first couple of months.

He carried that grudge forever.....

[Mitri]

I don't get the constant calls for Shogo to play. I used to be one of them myself. But with what Naquin has done he has won the CF job. Shogo will not have 10 HRs in his career. He wouldn't hit 10 is he played every day for 3 years.
He is a okay 4th/5th OFer. Anyway you look at him he was a bad signing for a supposed cash strapped Reds team.

There's more to baseball than hitting home runs. Not saying it's all Naquin does, but it's the thing you've repeatedly used to defend playing him over Shogo.

Akiyama plays better OF than anyone not named Senzel, sees a lot of pitches, and I think he could get on base at a respectable clip if given some steady play. Naquin has more power for sure but I wouldn't start him every day like Bell has.

[Kc61]

I understand why Bell is doing it - and he’s in a tough spot - but Suarez leading off and playing shortstop is quite a doubleheader.

[Rantly]

It’s the infield version of the triumvirate of Redus, Milner, and Householder is what it is…. Sad.

...and Duane Walker for added flexibility

[Kc61]

I still think Redus is going to have a big year.

[Rantly]

Just to be precise, it was Hurdle, Milner and Householder. Redus came a few years later.
Milner’s first “full” year in 1982, Redus 1983, to be precise :)

[Moose Herd]

Suarez has a .170 BABip, and that play didn't help it.

[TexasRedsFan]

Bell, PLEASE stop trying to be LaRussa Jr. with the pitcher hitting 8th. :bang:

[NebraskaRed]

David Bote, History's Greatest Monster

[Moose Herd]

David Bote, History's Greatest Monster

Maybe they'll trade him mid inning before he gets to hit.

[REDREAD]

There's more to baseball than hitting home runs. Not saying it's all Naquin does, but it's the thing you've repeatedly used to defend playing him over Shogo.

Akiyama plays better OF than anyone not named Senzel, sees a lot of pitches, and I think he could get on base at a respectable clip if given some steady play. Naquin has more power for sure but I wouldn't start him every day like Bell has.

I think Shogo has more range than Naquin, but Naquin has a much better arm. If there is a defensive value gap, it's not as much as it appears (I am not saying either one is definitely better, it's hard to quantify).

Naquin has a 838 OPS. He's earn the starting job.
Shogo has had 188 ABs, and a cumulative 628 OPS. He's had his chances, he's going to have to perform off the bench to earn more playing time, just like all the other bench guys.

[Moose Herd]

I kind of forgot Castillo was pitching today. Career 4.15 ERA at Wrigley.

[REDREAD]

I still think Redus is going to have a big year.

IIRC, Redus had a pretty decent career overall. He had a few good years with the Pirates after he left the Reds.
Milner was a good glove guy in CF.. back then, more emphasis was on defense.
Neither was a plus starting player, but they had relatively successful careers.
Much better than Walker and Householder.. I know you are just joking, this was not meant to start an argument.

[KeefeCato]

I kind of forgot Castillo was pitching today. Career 4.15 ERA at Wrigley.

I remember when Castillo pitching used to be a good thing.

[KeefeCato]

IIRC, Redus had a pretty decent career overall. He had a few good years with the Pirates after he left the Reds.
Milner was a good glove guy in CF.. back then, more emphasis was on defense.
Neither was a plus starting player, but they had relatively successful careers.
Much better than Walker and Householder.. I know you are just joking, this was not meant to start an argument.

Does Redus still hold the minor league record for average in a season? He hit something crazy like .430 on season. I think it was at Billings.

[texasdave]

Free Game of the Day on MLB.com.

57 and sunny. Wind blowing in from right.

[BCubb2003]

Gold Glove shortstop.

[REDREAD]

Nice save by India on that throw.

[NebraskaRed]

Much better first inning than last time for Castillo

[REDREAD]

Does Redus still hold the minor league record for average in a season? He hit something crazy like .430 on season. I think it was at Billings.

yea, I remember that, and getting so excited about him. Pretty impressive achievement. Not sure if it is still a record or not.

[NebraskaRed]

David Waldstein
@DavidWaldstein

TWO MILLION RUNS!!
Josh Donaldson scores on a double by Nelson Cruz for the Twins. That is run No. 2,000,000 in MLB history — unless someone else did it Shushing face. #2MillonRuns

[757690]

Milner’s first “full” year in 1982, Redus 1983, to be precise :)

I stand corrected. I thought Redus came in 1984, but in 1983 there was a Reds OF of Redus, Milner and Householder. Cedeno was supposed to be in there, but he was terrible as a Reds. Of course, he got good again when traded to the Cardinals

[KeefeCato]

yea, I remember that, and getting so excited about him. Pretty impressive achievement. Not sure if it is still a record or not.

Householder is the first prospect I can ever remember getting hyped. I think Milner would have had a better career if not for the drugs. Pretty sure he was on the IL a bunch because he was snorting and they may have hid that fact.

[DocRed]

Efing Naquin....3-0 and stints on a low pitch. WTF???

[NebraskaRed]

Naquin...come on

https://media.giphy.com/media/SWoRKslHVtqEasqYCJ/giphy.gif

[757690]

Naquin needs a 12 step program for that low inside pitch

[KeefeCato]

Bob Watson beat Concepcion by a step for 1 Mil.

[phlbilly]

That’s as about as bad as an at bat as you can have leading off an inning.

[texasdave]

Gary Redus hit .462 at Billings. It is the short-season, Minor League record.
The full-season, Minor League record is .452 by Bill Krieg in 1895.
The post_WW II record for a full season is held by Neal Cobb at .432.

Cobb compiled a lifetime .329 average down on the farm, and never sniffed the majors.

[KeefeCato]

Looking like Stephenson is needing that day off he is getting tomorrow.

[KeefeCato]

Is anyone beside Garcia in AA hitting? I know Alf Rod is only one hitting in AAA. I would like to see Payton off the 40 man and someone from the minors up. I mean they couldn't be worse than Payton.

[Moose Herd]

Is anyone beside Garcia in AA hitting? I know Alf Rod is only one hitting in AAA. I would like to see Payton off the 40 man and someone from the minors up. I mean they couldn't be worse than Payton.

He's had, what, 15 plate appearances? People really get worked up about backups.

[Rantly]

I stand corrected. I thought Redus came in 1984, but in 1983 there was a Reds OF of Redus, Milner and Householder. Cedeno was supposed to be in there, but he was terrible as a Reds. Of course, he got good again when traded to the Cardinals

Yep, Cedeno was sooo disappointing!

[NebraskaRed]

He's had, what, 15 plate appearances? People really get worked up about backups.

But what does Payton offer that makes his spot on the roster worth it?

[Tom Servo]

for gods sake

[NebraskaRed]

Good lord, Geno

[Reds Fanatic]

Wow what an awful throw by Geno

[texasdave]

Nice throw. LOL.

[KeefeCato]

He's had, what, 15 plate appearances? People really get worked up about backups.

He sucks the eye test tells me that. Possibly the work hitter on a MLB roster. If not he is bottom 5. Why not try to have a stronger bench?

[REDREAD]

I can't wait until the Suarez at SS experiment is over.

[Tom Servo]

Poor Luis.

[KeefeCato]

Suarez is just horrible no matter what position he plays. It was okay when he was hitting 49 HRs.

[Tom Servo]

so it’s gonna be a clown show type of game I guess

[JaxRed]

That play was practically Pirate-like

[UKWhoDey]

What the hell is this circus?!?!?! Are we the Pittsburgh Pirates?!?!?!

[WildcatFan]

I can't wait until the Suarez at SS experiment is over.

You could play Suarez at free safety and he still has to make that throw.

[757690]

I can't wait until the Suarez at SS experiment is over.

I really thought it was over. I have no idea why it’s still going.

[BUTLER REDSFAN]

I guess the wind is blowing in towards the 3rd base bag

[Monster Man]

Just a pitiful display of defense by an unfocused team.

[Tom Servo]

You could play Suarez at free safety and he still has to make that throw.
He was like 5 feet away from the 3B that was mind bogglingly bad

[KeefeCato]

so it’s gonna be a clown show type of game I guess

And you are there right? Sucks setting through that at home much less around a bunch of Cub fans.

[NebraskaRed]

The story of the 2021 Cincinnati Reds is quickly becoming one about a team that just squanders opportunity after opportunity.

They had so many chances to win yesterday and blew it.

Castillo is pitching pretty well today and the defense is blowing it.

[BUTLER REDSFAN]

Knothole...bad news bears...any other names?

[757690]

If the Reds aren’t doing pre-game infield workouts every game, they need to start. And if they are doing it, they clearly are doing it wrong.

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Knothole...bad news bears...any other names?

Keystone Reds.

[BUTLER REDSFAN]

Keystone cops? 3 stooges?

[Tom Servo]

And you are there right? Sucks setting through that at home much less around a bunch of Cub fans.
Yes, Cubs fans and a lot of flies. Equally annoying.

[BUTLER REDSFAN]

Is Leslie Nielsen somewhere on the field?

[REDREAD]

Is the wind in Chicago blowing in hard, like it was yesterday?
I hope not, because if it is, going to be hard for the Reds to get the 2 solo shots to tie it.

[DocRed]

Some bad luck and awful fielding for Castillo but he's not missing bats and that s what happens when ou don't miss bats...

[Moose Herd]

Chris Welch isn't bad at play by play, but I don't understand why they've continued the "color commentator does a couple of innings of play by play" thing now that Marty is gone. I know why they did it when he was around, he's old and probably needed a nap, but Tommy Thrall isn't 110 or whatever Marty was.

[REDREAD]

Man if Davies gets that call that struck out Blandino all day, it's going to be tough.

[RiverRat13]

Chris Welch isn't bad at play by play, but I don't understand why they've continued the "color commentator does a couple of innings of play by play" thing now that Marty is gone. I know why they did it when he was around, he's old and probably needed a nap, but Tommy Thrall isn't 110 or whatever Marty was.Marty did it when he was young, too.

[Kc61]

Some bad luck and awful fielding for Castillo but he's not missing bats and that s what happens when ou don't miss bats...

With this team it is.

[REDREAD]

Chris Welch isn't bad at play by play, but I don't understand why they've continued the "color commentator does a couple of innings of play by play" thing now that Marty is gone. I know why they did it when he was around, he's old and probably needed a nap, but Tommy Thrall isn't 110 or whatever Marty was.

Agreed. They should have never let Marty take off 3 innings per game, it was a bad precedent.
Calling 9 innings of baseball is really not that strenuous. Not sure why they need so long of a break.

[REDREAD]

Marty did it when he was young, too.

Yep, apparently Marty had to be asked multiple times to stop reading while the game was going on.
He would bring books to his job, to catch up on reading..

[Kc61]

Castillo is throwing 49% ground balls. It’s low for him, he’s a K/GB pitcher. But it’s still a healthy percentage.

Perhaps not the best day to use this defensive infield configuration.

[Wonderful Monds]

The story of the 2021 Cincinnati Reds is quickly becoming one about a team that just squanders opportunity after opportunity.

They had so many chances to win yesterday and blew it.

Castillo is pitching pretty well today and the defense is blowing it.

They play like a team that’s deservedly 5 under .500

[KeefeCato]

Agreed. They should have never let Marty take off 3 innings per game, it was a bad precedent.
Calling 9 innings of baseball is really not that strenuous. Not sure why they need so long of a break.

I always thought it was so Nuxhall could do play by play for a few innings.

[757690]

two good AB’s from Suarez today

[KeefeCato]

2nd hard hit ball by Geno.

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STOP WITH THE BUNTING JESSE PLEASE.

[JaxRed]

He's thrown 3 pitches out of zone and count is 0-2

[NebraskaRed]

Yes, let's keep starting Naquin instead of Shogo

[coryfly]

Couldn't Shogo be better than Naquin if he got some consistent playing time?

[texasdave]

If you're keeping track of these things, that's 15 scoreless innings in a row for the team from the Queen City.

[REDREAD]

I always thought it was so Nuxhall could do play by play for a few innings.

Maybe that's what it started as, but IIRC, even when Joe was here, Marty would take off his headphones, completely check out and chill.. Every once in a while, you could hear him goofing off with someone else in the background.
Then when Joe left, again.. IIRC.. Marty started asking for more breaks.
I think it started off with Joe only doing one inning by himself. By the time Marty retired, he was only doing 6 innings, getting 3 innings off.

[DocRed]

Yes, let's keep starting Naquin instead of Shogo

Swings at ball four way out of the zone on a 3-0 count and argues a a clear strike 3 that he takes.

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Castillo implosion coming in 3-2-1.....

[NebraskaRed]

https://media.giphy.com/media/l2Je5IMLrZSbFD63S/giphy.gif

[REDREAD]

Couldn't Shogo be better than Naquin if he got some consistent playing time?

Doubtful, Shogo has almost zero power in his swing.
Shogo does have a good eye, he will take the walk if the pitcher gives it to him, but against pitchers that can throw strikes, he often gets overpowered or makes weak contact at best.
Whoever scouted or crunched the numbers and recommended signing Shogo should be fired.

[texasdave]

Sub-optimal start to this inning. Walk. HBP.

[KeefeCato]

Doubtful, Shogo has almost zero power in his swing.
Shogo does have a good eye, he will take the walk if the pitcher gives it to him, but against pitchers that can throw strikes, he often gets overpowered or makes weak contact at best.
Whoever scouted or crunched the numbers and recommended signing Shogo should be fired.

Agree. Not sure why other don't see this.

[DocRed]

Bote hurt....uhoh. Looks like a dislocation.

[NebraskaRed]

Oh man they killed Bote

[Moose Herd]

Bote hurt....uhoh. Looks like a dislocation.

yikes

[Tom Servo]

Could really use a strikeout about now

[DocRed]

What are they reviewing?

[JaxRed]

Couldn't Shogo be better than Naquin if he got some consistent playing time?

No.

[NebraskaRed]

What's the review?

[DocRed]

That's a BAD play by Castillo, ball beat Sogard but Castillo was not on the base.

[JaxRed]

They should call runner out at first. He deliberately reached out to hit fielder.

[Mitri]

Blandino the tank, taking out Sogard.

[coryfly]

Doubtful, Shogo has almost zero power in his swing.
Shogo does have a good eye, he will take the walk if the pitcher gives it to him, but against pitchers that can throw strikes, he often gets overpowered or makes weak contact at best.
Whoever scouted or crunched the numbers and recommended signing Shogo should be fired.

Didn't he have the same average last year that Tyler does this year? No doubt Shogo has no power (none at all) but defensively he is better and he walks more. Obviously, Naquin has more power though so you have the chance for the homers you will never have with Shogo.

[REDREAD]

ok, the umps got that review right :)

[DocRed]

Blandino the tank, taking out Sogard.

Blandino strikes me as the kind of guy that is a lot tougher than you think he is. Stealthy Assassin type..

[NebraskaRed]

Good job avoiding disaster there

[Mitri]

Blandino strikes me as the kind of guy that is a lot tougher than you think he is. Stealthy Assassin type..

He was definitely into some sort of martial art at a young age.

[REDREAD]

Didn't he have the same average last year that Tyler does this year? No doubt Shogo has no power (none at all) but defensively he is better and he walks more. Obviously, Naquin has more power though so you have the chance for the homers you will never have with Shogo.

Shogo has a weak arm, Naquin has a very good arm. That evens out the fact that Shogo might have more range.
Shogo is basically Willy Taveras, without the ELITE running speed.

[TheBigLebowski]

I can’t imagine many people think this team has any realistic shot at contending. I would love to see them be proactive and start moving players with value NOW - not at the deadline. At least move some and then see what they can do with the rest at the deadline.

There’s nothing constructive or useful about sending these same guys out every day to play baseball like a fart.

[NebraskaRed]

Thanks, Ortega!

[KeefeCato]

Thanks, Ortega!

Salsa man

[Kc61]

Reds haven’t scored all series, they might have pinch hit for Castillo with the RISP.

[Moose Herd]

I can’t imagine many people think this team has any realistic shot at contending. I would love to see them be proactive and start moving players with value NOW - not at the deadline. At least move some and then see what they can do with the rest at the deadline.

There’s nothing constructive or useful about sending these same guys out every day just go watch them fart all over the field.

I think you need to wait for Moose, Votto, and Miley to get off the IL and see what they can do for a few weeks before making the selling decision, also, teams need to want to be buying NOW and not at the deadline.

[Tom Servo]

Starting to think we’re gonna have a second straight shut out

[DocRed]

Shogo has a weak arm, Naquin has a very good arm. That evens out the fact that Shogo might have more range.
Shogo is basically Willy Taveras, without the ELITE running speed.

I'd take Wally Tavares in a heartbeat. Not sure Shogo will ever get close to that level I'm afraid.

[NebraskaRed]

Redszone? More like ShogoHateZone

Or something.

[texasdave]

Reds should petition MLB for new scoring rules. They get a runner on 3rd, that's 3/4s of a run. With as many clown rules as Manfred has approved during his tenure, he just might go for it.

[NebraskaRed]

Reds should petition MLB for new scoring rules. They get a runner on 3rd, that's 3/4s of a run. With as many clown rules as Manfred has approved during his tenure, he just might go for it.

10 men left on base = 1 run

[traderumor]

MLB teams have injuries. You don't get a pass as a GM and field manager for having nothing major league ready in your system to take a look at and fill in when those injuries come. And you do not get a pass for deciding to go with your third baseman as shortstop. And you do not get a pass when you have players failing to cover first twice in one game and pitchers not being able to get a bunt down.

[TheBigLebowski]

I think you need to wait for Moose, Votto, and Miley to get off the IL and see what they can do for a few weeks before making the selling decision, also, teams need to want to be buying NOW and not at the deadline.

Let’s think about that for a sec. Votto/Miley/Moustakas are not the difference from this team and contending. The Reds will still be stricken with an inherent vice.

[NebraskaRed]

Great job with the top of the order

[DocRed]

I'd honestly think of taking Castillo out at this point to preserve his "good start vibes" or let him go one more inning and take him out if anyone reaches. A confident Castillo is probably the only shot we have of finishing above .500 this year irrespective of if we win today or not. Antone hasn't pitched in some time too...

[Mitri]

Shogo has a weak arm, Naquin has a very good arm. That evens out the fact that Shogo might have more range.
Shogo is basically Willy Taveras, without the ELITE running speed.

Shogo's arm is just fine. Doubtful it is even marginally better than Naquin's.

[Moose Herd]

Let’s think about that for a sec. Votto/Miley/Moustakas are not the difference from this team and contending. The Reds will still be stricken with an inherent vice.

In this division, they might be. It's not a good group of teams.

[DocRed]

Wow...Davies out at 64 pitches and no runs?

[NebraskaRed]

Time for the Cubs bullpen to have a bad day

[Flyer Guy]

Defense is pitching. I find it inconceivable that Reds Management made the conscious decision to play a season in the major leagues without a competent defensive shortstop.

[Moose Herd]

Time for the Cubs bullpen to have a bad day

It has to happen some time.

[DocRed]

nm...

[Kc61]

In this division, they might be. It's not a good group of teams.

Two of them are several games over .500. A third is at .500.

[DocRed]

Defense is pitching. I find it inconceivable that Reds Management made the conscious decision to play a season in the major leagues without a competent defensive shortstop.

No clue why they haven't brought AlfRod up. At the very least he could be a defensive sub late in games.

[TheBigLebowski]

In this division, they might be. It's not a good group of teams.

I don’t think you’re wrong, per se. You never know what will happen, especially in baseball. But someone else mentioned it earlier, and it’s true. A team has to have a decent contingency plan in place - this year more so than ever. Injuries, for whatever reason, have been up across the board. It’s an issue for everyone.

The Cubs are as average as they’re ever going to be and they’re still several games above .500. The Brewers arguably have the best 2 starters in the entire NL. St Louis is nor a perfect team by any means but they’re better than us.

The convergence of events that would have to take place for this team to stay in contention are staggering. They need to get ahead of it and do what needs to be done.

[Tom Servo]

that was pretty pitiful Cast

[757690]

Keegan Thompson is warming up for the Cubs. I’m assuming he’s funny.

[JaxRed]

Don't know if it will work but smart pinch hit here.

[DocRed]

Nice AB by Heineman. That's impressive to take that pitch. I was sure he was gonna get wrung up there by the strike happy ump.

[CaiGuy]

Man Cast really missed a big chance there. Had a chance to feast on the wild loogy and chases.

Now they are loaded.

[DocRed]

Don't know if it will work but smart pinch hit here.

Honestly I was gonna say it was questionable as Naquin OPS is .793 vs LHP this year and Heineman is so inexperienced. Glad I was wrong though.

[BluegrassRedleg]

And, of course, Cap’n Double Play is coming to the plate.


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[JaxRed]

And I'd pinch hit Tucker here.... this is possibly the ballgame...

[DocRed]

If we can somehow get Castillo the win here that would be massive. Not holding my breath though with this team...

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Ya Boi!!!

[Reds Fanatic]

Big hit by Stephenson. Tie game

[coryfly]

Big time from Stephenson there. Let's take the lead now.

[AG Slater]

Nice hit there from Stephenson. Now Bell will put Perez out there or some other chump to give the lead back

[JaxRed]

And I'd pinch hit Tucker here.... this is possibly the ballgame...

Thanks goodness we didn't pinch hit!!

[757690]

A hit by schrock would be huge right now

[BluegrassRedleg]

Haha. Way to go Cap!


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[coryfly]

Feel like you have to run on contact here and try and force something. Worse case you still have a runner at third with two outs.

[AG Slater]

We will we will schrock you

[Moose Herd]

I don’t think you’re wrong, per se. You never know what will happen, especially in baseball. But someone else mentioned it earlier, and it’s true. A team has to have a decent contingency plan in place - this year more so than ever. Injuries, for whatever reason, have been up across the board. It’s an issue for everyone.

The Cubs are as average as they’re ever going to be and they’re still several games above .500. The Brewers arguably have the best 2 starters in the entire NL. St Louis is nor a perfect team by any means but they’re better than us.

The convergence of events that would have to take place for this team to stay in contention are staggering. They need to get ahead of it and do what needs to be done.


OK, you're ready to give up. I'm not. Do we fight now, because you need to know, I'm pretty wiry.

[DocRed]

Schrock it!!

[DocRed]

Billy Hamilton would have scored on that..

[AG Slater]

Rock out with your shrock out

[REDREAD]

Starting to think we’re gonna have a second straight shut out

thanks for jinxing the cubs :)

[klw]

And, of course, Cap’n Double is coming to the plate.


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[TheBigLebowski]

Can’t say I’m not excited about TySteve’s long term prospects.

[REDREAD]

Redszone? More like ShogoHateZone

Or something.

It's not hate.
Just like no one really hates Shrock , C Perez, etc.. They are all just not good.
Shogo shouldn't get a free pass, no one else gets a free pass.

[AG Slater]

Leadoff walk and Garrett warming up should I turn my tv off?

[JaxRed]

Can’t say I’m not excited about TySteve’s long term prospects.

Ahhh the old double negative....

[REDREAD]

Shogo's arm is just fine. Doubtful it is even marginally better than Naquin's.

Not true.
Notice how the Reds don't play Shogo in RF?
When Naquin was with the Indians, his throwing speed from the OF was clocked at over 100 MPH. Maybe he's lost some of that, but his throwing arm is superior to Shogo's arm.

[SomeCallMeTim]

Can’t say I’m not excited about TySteve’s long term prospects.

He’s bonafide.

[TheBigLebowski]

Ahhh the old double negative....

I didn’t say what you thought I didn’t.

[NebraskaRed]

It's not hate.
Just like no one really hates Shrock , C Perez, etc.. They are all just not good.
Shogo shouldn't get a free pass, no one else gets a free pass.

Oh, I was just joking.

The thing with Shogo, for me, is that he actually did get good last year after he adjusted to major league pitching. I don't think it's fair to discount that.

He has not had any consistent playing time this season, so I'm not sure it's fair to say that we know what he can and can't do.

What I saw in the second half of last year was that he was getting good with consistent playing time. That's what I know about Shogo.

[coryfly]

Castillo cannot give this lead back here. Would be pretty devastating for him and the team I would think.

[Fil3232]

Really disappointing B6 for Luis there

[AG Slater]

Well he isn't good so it's not very surprising. Reds have lost almost every game he starts.

[coryfly]

Good outing but an extremely disappointing start to the bottom of the sixth. Just sort of not very tough mentally for Castillo at times.

[REDREAD]

Oh, I was just joking.

The thing with Shogo, for me, is that he actually did get good last year after he adjusted to major league pitching. I don't think it's fair to discount that.

He has not had any consistent playing time this season, so I'm not sure it's fair to say that we know what he can and can't do.

What I saw in the second half of last year was that he was getting good with consistent playing time. That's what I know about Shogo.

Ok, sorry, I did not realize that you were joking.
I can respect your opinion, but I disagree. I am going to save the rest of my argument for the ORG, not out of rudeness, it's just everyone here is pretty entrenched on their Shogo opinion and I've said what I want to say..

[AG Slater]

Brantley said " I like my chances here" I had to laugh at that

[REDREAD]

Come on Garrett, pull yourself together.

Wow, great break for the Reds, doesn't count as HBP

[AG Slater]

Here comes a brawl in 3...2...1.. only thing Garrett is good for

[TexasRedsFan]

That actually wasn't called a HBP? Wow. Take advantage of that!

[JaxRed]

He’s bonafide.

Actually I'm pretty concerned that he's just a guy.....

[coryfly]

Amir very lucky. Have to take advantage of it.

[NebraskaRed]

It would be funny if your last name was Wisdom and you were kinda dumb

[TexasRedsFan]

Here comes a brawl in 3...2...1.. only thing Garrett is good for

He's pretty good at throwing the ball into the ground too.

[coryfly]

No balls in the zone there.

[DocRed]

Garret being Garrett....awful

[757690]

Amir doesn’t seem to have the touch on his slider today

[NebraskaRed]

Garrett kept throwing it down and Wisdom figured him out.

[AG Slater]

Just a bit outside. In this case 2 in the ground. Reds just have endless guys who can't play baseball at the highest level.

[TheBigLebowski]

OK, you're ready to give up. I'm not. Do we fight now, because you need to know, I'm pretty wiry.

If I’m mistaken I apologize, but I thought the language and tone I used was non-intractable.

[AG Slater]

He would be great at horseshoes

[coryfly]

Yeah, it just made no sense to keep throwing the same thing he was seeing over and over there. That isn't how good pitching works.

[JaxRed]

Hoffman yells from the dugout...."Fake an injury!!'

[Coopdaddy67]

Garrett's gotten two huge gifts this inning. He better not blow it...

[coryfly]

Dude just isn't mentally tough enough for these spots anymore. Used to be. Not anymore.

[NebraskaRed]

Completely on Garrett. Throwing the same pitch over and over and over isn't fooling them.

[BluegrassRedleg]

That’s all that piss ant was going to do, and Garrett let him get away with it.


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[Red Raindog]

Watching most of these pitchers is torture


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[TheBigLebowski]

Ole Count On Ag never leaves the bullpen without a big tank of petroleum and a lighter.

[AG Slater]

Bell is loyal to his guys I give him credit for that. Players probably like him for that. Wonder if Brantley still likes our chances

[traderumor]

this is ugly baseball. Four walks this inning, the D gifted the other two runs. What a disaster of a squad.

[NebraskaRed]

I'd love to have Garrett make a video where he watches those two walks and explains his thinking.

[Smjjaz]

That little s&$t was never going to swing, and AG was too pigheaded to just challenge him with heat. Unbelievable!

[DocRed]

Garrett is really lucky that home plate ump made an awful call on that HBP. Should be 4-2 right now with none out and bases still loaded. Just an awful awful appearance by Garrett.

[TexasRedsFan]

I'd love to have Garrett make a video where he watches those two walks and explains his thinking.

He'd just blame one of his other personalities.

[AG Slater]

Like that Baez taunted him actually. He deserves it.

[SomeCallMeTim]

Dude just isn't mentally tough enough for these spots anymore. Used to be. Not anymore.

Yep. They are mocking him and deservedly so.

[NebraskaRed]

Antone throws strikes and....gets an out.

[KeefeCato]

Like that Baez taunted him actually. He deserves it.

I don't. Baez is a trash talking POS. He is the one who set Garrett off last time running his trap from the dugout. Runs on the field gets nothing.

[TexasRedsFan]

This one's likely over. And we probably won't have Antone for tomorrow. Just great.

[Pokeyosu]

Seven walks total this inning. Most in any inning in baseball this year.

[Fil3232]

This is a bad baseball team right now. We need help and health.

[Tony Cloninger]

Good outing but an extremely disappointing start to the bottom of the sixth. Just sort of not very tough mentally for Castillo at times.

I looked to see they tied it and then sure enough this pitcher can’t see it through.

Screw Bell’s EGBOK approach. Some of these players don’t respond to nice.

[NebraskaRed]

Castellanos bobbled that ball because he was mentally going over the list of teams he'd like to play for later this season.

[Coopdaddy67]

Antone needs to get the final out and then come out of the game so he's available tomorrow.

[BluegrassRedleg]

Just a daily ish show. We’re the suckers for showing up to watch this garbage that Castellini has produced.


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[traderumor]

The Javy chant, perfect clown of a player for the Cubs fans, soul mates even.

[TheBigLebowski]

This is a bad baseball team right now. We need help and health.

There isn’t enough realistic help out there that would make this a winning team.

Too many fundamental flaws with this group.

[AG Slater]

Add 2 more to Castillo's ERA.

[Tony Cloninger]

This one's likely over. And we won't have Antone for tomorrow. Just great.

I’m pretty sure he can handle throwing 12 pitches today and coming back tomorrow.

[REDREAD]

That little s&$t was never going to swing, and AG was too pigheaded to just challenge him with heat. Unbelievable!

I honestly think Garrett was just unable to throw a strike when he wanted to in that appearance.

[KeefeCato]

Add 2 more to Castillo's ERA.

5 inns 2 er. It went down

[Larkin Fan]

I honestly think Garrett was just unable to throw a strike when he wanted to in that appearance.

Just that appearance?

[NebraskaRed]

5 innings with 2 ER was good to see from Castillo.

The 4 walks were not.

[AG Slater]

I don't. Baez is a trash talking POS. He is the one who set Garrett off last time running his trap from the dugout. Runs on the field gets nothing.
Yeah my problem is how can someone have a mouth like Garrett and not have any ability to back anything up

[Gunner44]

#firecastellini

We need to get this trending

[REDREAD]

This one's likely over. And we probably won't have Antone for tomorrow. Just great.

If they pull Antone out now, he's probably available tomorrow.
He didn't pitch yesterday.

[Kc61]

This announcer is going to give Suarez an MVP award soon.

[Bushman]

Not really sure why Garrett still gets called on. Dude is way off right now, yet is still given every opportunity to fail, which he always obliges.

[REDREAD]

Just that appearance?

True, I was trying to be kind to him. He's had a bad year for sure. I wasn't defending him.

[NebraskaRed]

Reds: "We gotta get these runs back. We can win this"

Also Reds: "Just gonna swing wildly at every pitch no matter what it is"

[wally post]

Just once I'd like to see Castillo get to first base in time to catch a thrown ball from an infielder. (referencing the freaky double play that erased a safe call at first - yeah, Castillo was late again)

[texasdave]

Just once I'd like to see Castillo get to first base in time to catch a thrown ball from an infielder. (referencing the freaky double play that erased a safe call at first - yeah, Castillo was late again)

He does get over late a lot. But, man, does he look good with those dreadlocks flowing.

[NebraskaRed]

Good move to take Antone out.

[Kc61]

The Reds need to hire an expert in constructing a ballclub without much money.

Probably somebody from the Tampa front office group.

Make him head of baseball ops and let him do his job with minimal interference.

[REDREAD]

Hendrix has been a very pleasant surprise this year.

Sorry for saying that, the HR was my fault

[NebraskaRed]

One of the biggest issues here is that Blandino, Farmer, Schrock, and some others just aren't starters.

Yes, this team had some big players go on the IL, but they replaced them with nobody that could produce at a major league level.

[Kc61]

Hendrix has been a very pleasant surprise this year.

Sorry for saying that, the HR was my fault

5.40 ERA. Not that pleasant.

[texasdave]

They should probably call this game after 7, and agree to play 11 innings tomorrow.

[Kc61]

One of the biggest issues here is that Blandino, Farmer, Schrock, and some others just aren't starters.

Yes, this team had some big players go on the IL, but they replaced them with nobody that could produce at a major league level.

Because good backups are a “luxury.” And the Reds don’t do luxury.

[REDREAD]

One of the biggest issues here is that Blandino, Farmer, Schrock, and some others just aren't starters.

Yes, this team had some big players go on the IL, but they replaced them with nobody that could produce at a major league level.

yep, that's what happens when they field a team on less than a shoe string budget.
Last year, we had some depth to cover injuries.
This year? Players that have no business being in the big leagues.

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5.40 ERA. Not that pleasant.

He's had more good appearances than bad ones, IMO.
He's been a competent middle reliever, which is an upgrade from the yahoos he replaced.

[Tony Cloninger]

Hendrix has been just about like any other Reds reliever they have developed. Bad. It used to be that was what they were good at. Either developing or finding good relievers. Bowden was good at that. No longer.

[NebraskaRed]

Not to say that Heineman or Shogo is any kind of solution, but at least give them a chance. Bell keeps running out the same people every day and it obviously ain't cutting it.

[wally post]

I honestly think Garrett was just unable to throw a strike when he wanted to in that appearance.

Bell didn't notice. He was busy making plans for later substitutions.

[JaxRed]

Give Herndrix another inning. Needs the work.

[Coopdaddy67]

The Reds need to hire an expert in constructing a ballclub without much money.

Probably somebody from the Tampa front office group.

Make him head of baseball ops and let him do his job with minimal interference.

If they wanted to go in that direction, they should have targeted Bloom before he went to Boston.

The real issue with the Reds is that they refuse to run their organization like small market teams, but don't want to spend money like the bigger markets. That's not a winning formula over the long run.

I don't see that changing before Castellini exits.

[NebraskaRed]

Wait, are we beating up on Hendrix now?

Some of you think a player should be a superstar in their first 30 games in the big leagues or else they're straight garbage.

[Tony Cloninger]

The Reds need to hire an expert in constructing a ballclub without much money.

Probably somebody from the Tampa front office group.

Make him head of baseball ops and let him do his job with minimal interference.


Would that not require them to trade the popular players that Bob likes and people want to come out and see. What about all those promotions and bobble heads. That’s not cheap either. That’s important too. Bob sees baseball as a business that marketing and promotions matter more than developing. Just conjecture based on the way he talks and runs this organization.

[Kc61]

He's had more good appearances than bad ones, IMO.
He's been a competent middle reliever, which is an upgrade from the yahoos he replaced.

Looking at Hendrix’ numbers I can buy that. His FIP and xFIP are pretty good. He’s walked way too many.

I’d rather give Hendrix opportunities than the scrap heap guys. I’ll give you that.

[NebraskaRed]

Castellanos is thinking about putting on his old Cubs jersey and going into their dugout to see if anyone would notice.

[REDREAD]

Looking at Hendrix’ numbers I can buy that. His FIP and xFIP are pretty good. He’s walked way too many.

I’d rather give Hendrix opportunities than the scrap heap guys. I’ll give you that.

Yes, he's still a work in progress, I will give you that.
He does have some outings where his control isn't as sharp as we'd like it, hopefully he can improve there.

[NebraskaRed]

So far, Reds have scored 10 runs in 6 games this week.

[TexasRedsFan]

Castellanos is thinking about putting on his old Cubs jersey and going into their dugout to see if anyone would notice.

Doubt anyone would blame him if he tried. He's just wasted on this ball club.

[Tony Cloninger]

Wait, are we beating up on Hendrix now?

Some of you think a player should be a superstar in their first 30 games in the big leagues or else they're straight garbage.


No and yes. Not giving up on him. It would be nice if they threw strikes though. In the 45 years following this team I’ve never seen it struggle to even develop relievers. Let’s check that. Develop anything much of anything anymore. At the same time while everyone seems to have a handful or reliable relievers. This team brings up guys who can’t throw strikes.

[SomeCallMeTim]

There isn’t enough realistic help out there that would make this a winning team.

Too many fundamental flaws with this group.

#firedavidbell