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Ron Madden
06-18-2021, 04:27 PM
Reds
1. Jonathan India (R) 2B
2. Jesse Winker (L) LF
3. Nick Castellanos (R) RF
4. Tyler Naquin (L) CF
5. Joey Votto (L) 1B
6. Eugenio Suarez (R) 3B
7. Tucker Barnhart (L) C
8. Kyle Farmer (R) SS
9. Tony Santillan (R) P


Padres
1. Tommy Pham (R) LF
2. Fernando Tatis Jr. (R) SS
3. Trent Grisham (L) CF
4. Manny Machado (R) 3B
5. Eric Hosmer (L) 1B
6. Wil Myers (R) RF
7. Jake Cronenworth (L) 2B
8. Victor Caratini (S) C
9. Chris Paddack (R) P

redsfan9988
06-18-2021, 04:31 PM
If getting your lineup to the press quickly was a Manager-of-the-Year category, David Bell would at least get some down-ballot votes.

This is the best lineup we have right now. Santillan is going to need some support - let’s get an early lead. Paddock is mediocre.

goreds2
06-18-2021, 04:45 PM
My Reds and 76ers last games were heart breaking losses. Hopefully they both bounce back with a win tonight!

Ron Madden
06-18-2021, 04:55 PM
The Padres lineup has been added to the original post

KeefeCato
06-18-2021, 04:57 PM
Hopefully they forget last night. Wipe it from there minds.

Ironman92
06-18-2021, 05:05 PM
I love they are playing the Padres but that 10:10 start and I’m leaving early morning for the beach….might get 3 innings in

Go Reds

Ron Madden
06-18-2021, 05:06 PM
Hopefully they forget last night. Wipe it from there minds.

Unlike some here in RedsZone I think the players understand the ebb and flow of a 162 game season. They'll be alright.

AG Slater
06-18-2021, 05:21 PM
Move Suarez to 8th or Bench. He has had almost a full season of production batting under .200

757690
06-18-2021, 05:53 PM
My Reds and 76ers last games were heart breaking losses. Hopefully they both bounce back with a win tonight!

Oh man, I feel for you if you’re a Sixer fan. Btw, here is recap of that 76’s-Hawks game


https://youtu.be/7asw5Vd8lIY

SomeCallMeTim
06-18-2021, 06:15 PM
Hopefully they forget last night. Wipe it from there minds.

As a long time sports and Reds fan I have always despised the term “moral victory”.

But last nights game showed fight and they overcame when they were down to their last pitch…that kind of resilience you do want to hold on to.

Now, Blowing a 7 run lead like they had in StL? That is what you block out. Fortunately they won and it didn’t cause any brain damage! Or not as much… [emoji2957]

podgejeff_
06-18-2021, 06:19 PM
As a long time sports and Reds fan I have always despised the term “moral victory”.

But last nights game showed fight and they overcame when they were down to their last pitch…that kind of resilience you do want to hold on to.

Now, Blowing a 7 run lead like they had in StL? That is what you block out. Fortunately they won and it didn’t cause any brain damage! Or not as much… [emoji2957]

Agreed completely. Last night's end result wasn't good, but we had two rookies and a team leader will us back into that game. If we show that kind of fight every game we're a problem for the rest of baseball.

*BaseClogger*
06-18-2021, 08:21 PM
Move Suarez to 8th or Bench. He has had almost a full season of production batting under .200

Bell wants to have a RH hitter batting sixth to avoid three lefties in a row and your only other choice is Kyle Farmer, whose career line looks a lot like Suarez's recent struggles. Might as well go with the guy who has a reputation and can take the pitcher deep...

TexasRedsFan
06-18-2021, 08:23 PM
I'm worried that last night's implosion fired up the Padres and poor Santillan may get ambushed early, but hope not.

The top of the 9th rally last night was awesome. Hopefully that enthusiasm carries over and we get a big enough pad that even our pen can't blow.

Ron Madden
06-18-2021, 08:41 PM
Mark Sheldon
@m_sheldon

The #reds are wearing USS Cincinnati caps during BP today. Members of the submarine’s crew will be at a game this weekend. They will be signed and sold to benefit the Reds Community Fund. @ Petco Park https://instagram.com/p/CQSAZiZBpgw/

Tom Servo
06-18-2021, 09:18 PM
Less worried about any spillover from last night, more concerned about Chris Paddack who seems dangerous despite a 4.14 ERA. He's another guy who doesn't allow too many walks so the Reds might be swinging into quick outs again if they aren't squaring some balls up.

davereds24
06-18-2021, 09:38 PM
Very cool with the hats. Too bad MLB won't allow them to wear em for a game.

Bob Sheed
06-18-2021, 09:56 PM
Bauer pitching for the Dodgers tonight.

I've been watching him more closely since the gunk ban.

Tom Servo
06-18-2021, 10:17 PM
Winker jobbed on a called strike 3, it was ball 4.

JFLegal
06-18-2021, 10:17 PM
Winker jobbed on a called strike 3, it was ball 4.

not even close. my god, when is this madness gonna end.

Reds Fanatic
06-18-2021, 10:18 PM
Castellanos with a 2 out hit

JFLegal
06-18-2021, 10:18 PM
Winker jobbed on a called strike 3, it was ball 4.

not even close. my god, when is this madness gonna end.

Ironman92
06-18-2021, 10:19 PM
Did Tatis hit about 12 feet with his glove on that? Geesh

JaxRed
06-18-2021, 10:23 PM
That didn't take long

JFLegal
06-18-2021, 10:23 PM
jfc, ump doesn't know what he's doing and now a leadoff HR. i'm sure this one will end well.

Tom Servo
06-18-2021, 10:24 PM
But Chris Welsh told me not to worry about the Padres hitting the long ball again tonight :/

Puff
06-18-2021, 10:24 PM
Well sh*t fire

BluegrassRedleg
06-18-2021, 10:24 PM
These next three days will be painful.

NC-Red
06-18-2021, 10:24 PM
Are the Reds really about to be 4 game swept? Definitely has the feel of it and would undo all of the progress made in the last 10 days

Ironman92
06-18-2021, 10:25 PM
Well sh*t fire

You’ll burn your ass

JFLegal
06-18-2021, 10:25 PM
These next three days will be painful.

can't be more painful than last night.

Reds Fanatic
06-18-2021, 10:25 PM
Nice pitch right on the corner

Ironman92
06-18-2021, 10:25 PM
Lord this place is dramatic

mhs95_06
06-18-2021, 10:26 PM
not even close. my god, when is this madness gonna end.

Didn't miss by more than a half inch! Remember any part of the ball touches the box, its a strike.

JFLegal
06-18-2021, 10:26 PM
can we get this dbag ump to give santillan a K on a ball 4 feet outside like he did for paddack?

KeefeCato
06-18-2021, 10:26 PM
Is there a game going on? All I see is the smoke show behind home plate.

Reds Fanatic
06-18-2021, 10:28 PM
Another good pitch another strike out looking

JFLegal
06-18-2021, 10:28 PM
atta boy santillan.

membengal
06-18-2021, 10:28 PM
Nice little comeback from Santillian after Pham.

JaxRed
06-18-2021, 10:29 PM
Is there a game going on? All I see is the smoke show behind home plate.

Bit of an ice queen

Reds Fanatic
06-18-2021, 10:29 PM
Machado doubles to center

membengal
06-18-2021, 10:30 PM
Nice little comeback from Santillian after Pham.

Or not.

wally post
06-18-2021, 10:33 PM
I'm wondering if Santillan is having trouble with the grip on the ball tonight. That said, I'm not one to query about this. Glad he got out of the inning.

NebraskaRed
06-18-2021, 10:33 PM
Or not.

Or...yes?

Tom Servo
06-18-2021, 10:33 PM
Didn't go so badly, needs some quicker outs the next few frames though.

membengal
06-18-2021, 10:34 PM
Or...yes?

We're back!

NebraskaRed
06-18-2021, 10:34 PM
Didn't go so badly, needs some quicker outs the next few frames though.

He gave up one run! Game's over. Series is over.

KeefeCato
06-18-2021, 10:34 PM
3 rockets off of Tony.

Tom Servo
06-18-2021, 10:36 PM
you know maybe we wouldn't have this issue with umpires if there were a few of them under AARP age.

coryfly
06-18-2021, 10:37 PM
Got rocked pretty good. Needs to start getting ahead. Can't live in the majors getting behind every batter.

goreds2
06-18-2021, 10:42 PM
you know maybe we wouldn't have this issue with umpires if there were a few of them under AARP age.

https://torontoguardian.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/Baseball-umpire-194.jpg

Stray
06-18-2021, 10:45 PM
How long does it take to put on the protective equipment?

Wonderful Monds
06-18-2021, 10:45 PM
Just turned on the game after hitting the deck from the tornado stuff here, I see we’ve somehow maimed another ump

Roy Tucker
06-18-2021, 10:51 PM
You can get your AARP card at 50.

TheBigLebowski
06-18-2021, 10:51 PM
Suarez is lost up there.

mhs95_06
06-18-2021, 10:53 PM
Suarez is lost up there.

No more than Votto or Barnhart. Change-up is the killer.

Wonderful Monds
06-18-2021, 10:53 PM
It’s to the point where I’d honestly just rather see Geno’s AB’s play out like this:


https://youtu.be/WUTVmuqviqE

Tom Servo
06-18-2021, 10:53 PM
Less worried about any spillover from last night, more concerned about Chris Paddack who seems dangerous despite a 4.14 ERA. He's another guy who doesn't allow too many walks so the Reds might be swinging into quick outs again if they aren't squaring some balls up.
https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/914/422/cb7.jpg

Something about the Chris Paddack, Logan Webb, and Luke Weavers of the baseball world...

NC-Red
06-18-2021, 10:56 PM
Stats don't reflect it but the Padres definitely have a better offense than the Reds. If the Reds didn't play in GABP their offense would be average or maybe worse. Padres actually can put the ball in play and don't strike out near as much

757690
06-18-2021, 10:57 PM
This 4 game series could end up really ugly.

TheBigLebowski
06-18-2021, 10:57 PM
No more than Votto or Barnhart. Change-up is the killer.

You’re saying Suarez is performing at the same level as Votto or even Barnhart?

coryfly
06-18-2021, 10:57 PM
That is just a 2-0 a major league pitcher can't throw.

Wonderful Monds
06-18-2021, 10:57 PM
Dammit.

One of the stranger looking home runs I’ve ever seen in my life, especially in Petco

redsfan9988
06-18-2021, 10:57 PM
Welp... it’s either gonna be a shoot-out or we’re gonna lose 14-0

Tom Servo
06-18-2021, 10:58 PM
Not sure “give up a HR to start each inning” is a winning strategy

TheBigLebowski
06-18-2021, 10:58 PM
It’s to the point where I’d honestly just rather see Geno’s AB’s play out like this:


https://youtu.be/WUTVmuqviqE

Right now that video accurately captures the experience of watching him hit.

mhs95_06
06-18-2021, 10:59 PM
You’re saying Suarez is performing at the same level as Votto or even Barnhart?

In that inning vs that pitcher, yes.

NebraskaRed
06-18-2021, 10:59 PM
Maybe one day the Reds will learn how to play well on the west coast.

Tom Servo
06-18-2021, 10:59 PM
Stats don't reflect it but the Padres definitely have a better offense than the Reds. If the Reds didn't play in GABP their offense would be average or maybe worse. Padres actually can put the ball in play and don't strike out near as much
They strike out more than the Reds batters and have a lower batting average. They do walk more but that’s it.

BluegrassRedleg
06-18-2021, 10:59 PM
Rocket shots all night long.

mhs95_06
06-18-2021, 11:00 PM
Not sure “give up a HR to start each inning” is a winning strategy

0-2 pitch was at least 15" lower than the borderline high strike Barnhart wanted.

redsfan9988
06-18-2021, 11:01 PM
Also... this game is going to last the rest of our lives. We’ve already had a long delay and neither of these pitchers is in any hurry. At all. Is it too soon to bring in Wade Miley?

TheBigLebowski
06-18-2021, 11:02 PM
In that inning vs that pitcher, yes.

I was speaking on a macro level. Not referring to one solitary AB.

TheBigLebowski
06-18-2021, 11:07 PM
Ok Redlegs. Let’s score. In bunches.

Big Klu
06-18-2021, 11:07 PM
It's OK, Jim Day. An honest mistake. There have been five ships named USS Cincinnati in the history of the U.S. Navy. The current one is, in fact, a combat ship. However, the previous one (the fourth one) was a Los Angeles-class nuclear attack submarine active from 1978 to 1996. It was the same class as USS Dallas, the American sub in the Tom Clancy novel and film, The Hunt for Red October.

Tom Servo
06-18-2021, 11:09 PM
6 HRs in 11 innings for SD, just 1 for us.

Gotta pump those numbers up…

TheBigLebowski
06-18-2021, 11:09 PM
My boy Farmer! I think I’m his only fan.

Wonderful Monds
06-18-2021, 11:11 PM
Man if the 3B is playing that close and he looks this bad bunting, he’s probably better off just swinging away


And as I say that he gets the sac down

redsfan9988
06-18-2021, 11:12 PM
Tony Santillan is the oldest-looking 24-year-old I’ve ever seen. It’s not even close. He looks like CC Sabathia circa 2018...

TheBigLebowski
06-18-2021, 11:14 PM
There we go JW

Ironman92
06-18-2021, 11:14 PM
Good effort despite knowing the game and series is already over

Wonderful Monds
06-18-2021, 11:15 PM
Wrong again, Sadak lol

JaxRed
06-18-2021, 11:15 PM
Saw that Breakfast at Tiffany's reference coming before he said it....

Ironman92
06-18-2021, 11:15 PM
Tony Santillan is the oldest-looking 24-year-old I’ve ever seen. It’s not even close. He looks like CC Sabathia circa 2018...

Greg Oden says hi

Tom Servo
06-18-2021, 11:15 PM
Tony Santillan is the oldest-looking 24-year-old I’ve ever seen. It’s not even close. He looks like CC Sabathia circa 2018...
I remember from when the Reds drafted him to when he got to Single A he looked like he went from age 18 to age 28

JaxRed
06-18-2021, 11:16 PM
Greg Oden says hi

From his latest hospital bed

Ironman92
06-18-2021, 11:17 PM
From his latest hospital bed

He ain’t fitting in no hospital bed

Big Klu
06-18-2021, 11:18 PM
Greg Oden says hi

Greg Oden looked like Robert Parish's older brother when he was drafted out of Ohio State.

redsfan9988
06-18-2021, 11:18 PM
Man this dude’s change up is giving the Reds hitters ALL kinds of problems. If I were Paddack, I throw about 55 more of them tonight.

TheBigLebowski
06-18-2021, 11:21 PM
Two pitches in a row right in the middle of the zone. To Tatis.

Terrible.

AG Slater
06-18-2021, 11:22 PM
These Padres are loving seeing Santillan pitching. Let's hope Gray is back sooner than later

757690
06-18-2021, 11:22 PM
Maybe the Reds should employ and “opener” to pitch to the first batter of each inning, when Santillan pitches.

TheBigLebowski
06-18-2021, 11:23 PM
Nice pick by Joey Bag of Donuts

redsfan9988
06-18-2021, 11:24 PM
We should walk Machado to set up the double play.... I don’t want to pitch to him here

TheBigLebowski
06-18-2021, 11:24 PM
Who here thinks the Pads are getting their money’s worth out of Machado?

Ironman92
06-18-2021, 11:24 PM
Nice read and catch by Naquin even though people act like he’s current Adam Dunn in CF

Ironman92
06-18-2021, 11:25 PM
Who here thinks the Pads are getting their money’s worth out of Machado?

Against the Reds this series they are

Tom Servo
06-18-2021, 11:26 PM
Need more runs

mhs95_06
06-18-2021, 11:28 PM
Nice read and catch by Naquin even though people act like he’s current Adam Dunn in CF

Yes, that's two liners that had a fade back toward him that could have given him problems, but were handled well. And Brantley complemented him on his great accurate throw to 2B on an earlier double that was a hair late to get the runner.

757690
06-18-2021, 11:28 PM
I have always felt the biggest difference between a solid MLB pitcher and the fringe pitchers is the latter throws a few more terds per game. Tony is providing evidence of that tonight.

Ironman92
06-18-2021, 11:28 PM
Need more runs

Why? So we can loose closer

(I spelled it incorrectly because it seems right in this sense)

Ironman92
06-18-2021, 11:29 PM
Yes, that's two liners that had a fade back toward him that could have given him problems, but were handled well. And Brantley complemented him on his great accurate throw to 2B on an earlier double that was a hair late to get the runner.

Well joeboob from RZ who never played or understands OF says he sucks, so all else is moo.

Ironman92
06-18-2021, 11:32 PM
Suarez missing his pitch

Tom Servo
06-18-2021, 11:33 PM
Suarez weakly fouls off a first pitch fastball right down the middle. Jeez.

mhs95_06
06-18-2021, 11:33 PM
Well joeboob from RZ who never played or understands OF says he sucks, so all else is moo.

Due to the difference in arms, I'd rather have him in CF than Akiyama. Senzel runs balls down better than both, but can't stay healthy out there.

redsfan9988
06-18-2021, 11:34 PM
Paddack is going to strike out Geno with a change up... right now.

Ironman92
06-18-2021, 11:35 PM
Suarez weakly fouls off a first pitch fastball right down the middle. Jeez.

Chris Davis? What a good comparison? Suarez was a great hitter an now can’t do anything other than sometimes running into one

Tom Servo
06-18-2021, 11:35 PM
Geno tries to GIDP but lucks into an infield hit

TheBigLebowski
06-18-2021, 11:35 PM
There’s some luck. We’re overdue for that.

Ironman92
06-18-2021, 11:36 PM
As a baseball fan I wish Paddock would’ve been out of the way….as a Reds fan, thanks pitch

BCubb2003
06-18-2021, 11:36 PM
Watching a ballgame and “Swan Lake” breaks out.

Reds Fanatic
06-18-2021, 11:38 PM
No one paying attention so Votto takes 3rd

Ironman92
06-18-2021, 11:38 PM
That was great video lol

San Diego fans being shown REALLY getting into the wave and you see Joey “Bolt” Votto ambling at his top speed to 3rd lol

The Operator
06-18-2021, 11:40 PM
I guess I didn’t realize just how bad The Diamondbacks were. 20-50? 14 straight losses? Yikes.

That makes those two series’ we had with them that much worse. They’re 15-49 against everyone other than The Reds. Ouch.

Tom Servo
06-18-2021, 11:40 PM
That was great video lol

San Diego fans being shown REALLY getting into the wave and you see Joey “Bolt” Votto ambling at his top speed to 3rd lol
yeah the camera really only caught it by accident lol

TheBigLebowski
06-18-2021, 11:40 PM
Freaking shorten your swing and make contact. Horrible ab

Ironman92
06-18-2021, 11:41 PM
He missed target by 3 feet and catcher made it look worse….tough on ump. Even a robot would agree.

Reds Fanatic
06-18-2021, 11:42 PM
Big hit by Farmer. 3-2

TheBigLebowski
06-18-2021, 11:42 PM
My boy Farmer!!

The Operator
06-18-2021, 11:42 PM
Farmer!

3-2 ballgame

redsfan9988
06-18-2021, 11:42 PM
Farmer with a nice clutch hit. 2 for 2

I PH for Santillan here.

Tom Servo
06-18-2021, 11:42 PM
everyone's favorite, farm dog

Reds Fanatic
06-18-2021, 11:42 PM
Shogo hitting for Santillan

The Operator
06-18-2021, 11:43 PM
They’re taking down Santillan for Shogo? Really?

Reds Fanatic
06-18-2021, 11:43 PM
Reds bullpen needing to go 6 innings against this lineup could get very ugly

TheBigLebowski
06-18-2021, 11:44 PM
Only got 3 IP from Tony. I’ve not been terribly impressed by him. Thus far

mhs95_06
06-18-2021, 11:44 PM
Change-up gets Tucker this time in a key AB, needing to get Votto in, after the curve ball(same speed as change-up but breaking the other way) got him last time, but Votto and Suarez do better this 2nd time thru, and Farmer gets a hit both times, this time key in picking up tucker's failure.

NC-Red
06-18-2021, 11:44 PM
Reds bullpen needing to go 6 innings against this lineup could get very ugly

The bullpen is tired, this move makes 0 sense

Reds Fanatic
06-18-2021, 11:44 PM
Only got 3 IP from Tony. I’ve not been terribly impressed by him. Thus far

Yes hopefully Gray is back soon

NC-Red
06-18-2021, 11:45 PM
Shogo just looks overmatched vs MLB pitching. Definitely not the same as Japan

Tom Servo
06-18-2021, 11:45 PM
They’re taking down Santillan for Shogo? Really?
Don't think things were going to get much better for Santillan.

Big Klu
06-18-2021, 11:45 PM
Larry Rothschild was also the bullpen coach for the 1990 World Champion Reds.

The Operator
06-18-2021, 11:45 PM
Jeezus Shogo

coryfly
06-18-2021, 11:45 PM
Only got 3 IP from Tony. I’ve not been terribly impressed by him. Thus far

Yeah, I don't think he has looked great in either start really.



Man, 9 SOs already. Offense isn't terrible but they have so many games where they just SO over and over it seems.

JaxRed
06-18-2021, 11:46 PM
Not the best at bat Shogi has had....

The Operator
06-18-2021, 11:46 PM
Don't think things were going to get much better for Santillan.

Agreed, just not sure that Shogo was any better of a bet to get a hit there.

TheBigLebowski
06-18-2021, 11:46 PM
For the love of kobe beef…he looked like an inebriated 16 year old boy trying to hit a gold ball.

Stray
06-18-2021, 11:46 PM
Gonna need 6 innings from the bullpen tonight. Luckily I have plenty of beer in the fridge.

AG Slater
06-18-2021, 11:46 PM
Anyone think the Reds could deal Moustakas for a bullpen arm?

Griffey012
06-18-2021, 11:46 PM
I don’t think Goudeau playing with fire is much different than Santillan playing with fire at this point. I’m fine with then pinch hit there.

Tom Servo
06-18-2021, 11:46 PM
I can't get upset with Shogo, he's still got limited MLB experience and gets like just 1 PA every few days or so. If he's going to exclusively be a pinch hitter you might as well use Logan Morrison in that spot since he's a veteran.

Gunner44
06-18-2021, 11:46 PM
What a waste of a start. Like the BP is any better than Santillan. I know Bell has no BP options, but this is all on him, win or lose.

AG Slater
06-18-2021, 11:47 PM
The Shogo experiment has been a failure. It was worth a shot ( I guess)

TheBigLebowski
06-18-2021, 11:47 PM
Anyone think the Reds could deal Moustakas for a bullpen arm?

Nah. Not a good one.

Wonderful Monds
06-18-2021, 11:47 PM
What a waste of a start. Like the BP is any better than Santillan. I know Bell has no BP options, but this is all on him, win or lose.

wot

Ironman92
06-18-2021, 11:48 PM
Paddock T-62nd in strikeouts to start the day but apparently was playing with his Nolan Ryan baseball cards today.

VR
06-18-2021, 11:48 PM
Just tuning in. Was Santillan hurt? Or just that bad? Or Bell over-managing?

The Operator
06-18-2021, 11:48 PM
Anyone think the Reds could deal Moustakas for a bullpen arm?

Not until he’s healthy, and even then, there’s that contract to think about.

Big Klu
06-18-2021, 11:48 PM
What does Brantley say about waiting for Goudeau?

Reds Fanatic
06-18-2021, 11:48 PM
Myers homers again

coryfly
06-18-2021, 11:48 PM
Throw freaking strikes to get ahead of hitters for goodness sake.

The Operator
06-18-2021, 11:49 PM
Well that didn’t take long

Ironman92
06-18-2021, 11:49 PM
Good pitch….nothing big league about it. I know Myers has never ever had a hit before against the Reds

mhs95_06
06-18-2021, 11:49 PM
I thought Shogo might be able to handle the change-up and get the tying run in, but after two 96 mph fastballs to get ahead the 2nd change-up got him after laying off the first one. Paddack using Trevor Hoffman tricks throwing multiple change-ups in a row. I saw Hoffman throw 5 in a row in the same AB.

Tom Servo
06-18-2021, 11:49 PM
Just tuning in. Was Santillan hurt? Or just that bad? Or Bell over-managing?
He was barely scraping by with just a run allowed per inning, so it was pretty poor. Your call on whether it was the right time to take him down for a PH. I don't really have a problem with it.

BluegrassRedleg
06-18-2021, 11:49 PM
Even Will F. Myers looks like a MLB player against this cast of clowns.

Stray
06-18-2021, 11:49 PM
I can't get upset with Shogo, he's still got limited MLB experience and gets like just 1 PA every few days or so. If he's going to exclusively be a pinch hitter you might as well use Logan Morrison in that spot since he's a veteran.

Yeah, he gets his 1 random AB and strikes out and everyone acts like he's the worst player on the roster. The Shogo thing here is really weird.

Tom Servo
06-18-2021, 11:49 PM
6 HRs in 11 innings for SD, just 1 for us.

Gotta pump those numbers up…
I meant for the Reds.

TheBigLebowski
06-18-2021, 11:50 PM
The Life Aquatic With Steve Goudeau came to the mount, took out a match and farted on it.

lnn6574
06-18-2021, 11:50 PM
This bullpen.


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The Operator
06-18-2021, 11:51 PM
Batting practice

Reds Fanatic
06-18-2021, 11:51 PM
Like I said 6 innings of this bullpen Ugly

TheBigLebowski
06-18-2021, 11:51 PM
This guy is a complete (butt)hole. Shouldn’t be anywhere near a MLB roster.

adkindo
06-18-2021, 11:52 PM
I find it hard to believe that we do not have guys in the minors that would be better than some of these garbage pitchers we bring out of the bullpen.

Wonderful Monds
06-18-2021, 11:53 PM
The Life Aquatic With Steve Goudeau came to the mount, took out a match and farted on it.

I think I’d rather have Wes Anderson or Bill Murray in our pen than most of the guys out there right now

coryfly
06-18-2021, 11:54 PM
Yeah, just so many bad arms on the team. Just a lot of crappy options to choose from.

The Operator
06-18-2021, 11:54 PM
I hope I wind up looking stupid for saying this.

But last night’s game left me with a very “2012 Game 3” bad taste in my mouth. Like you just knew the momentum had changed and the slumping Padres were waking up and streaking Reds were about to be humbled.

I hope I wind up looking like a chicken little here. The lack of bullpen help over the offseason is just so criminal. So many winnable games have slipped away in the latter innings this year. This team has all the other pieces to compete.

Griffey012
06-18-2021, 11:54 PM
Goudeau might be one of the stranger rostered players I can remember.

mhs95_06
06-18-2021, 11:55 PM
What a waste of a start. Like the BP is any better than Santillan. I know Bell has no BP options, but this is all on him, win or lose.

I disagree, you need runs and there were two on and he got a hitter up there to have a chance to tie or go ahead. Santillan didn't have it, maybe one of your lowest tier relievers can start to make a good impression and steal a game!

The Operator
06-18-2021, 11:55 PM
And now a walk

Nobody out

The Operator
06-18-2021, 11:56 PM
Goudeau might be one of the stranger rostered players I can remember.

Yea, I’m perplexed here too. Doesn’t throw hard, not a lot of movement, not particularly great control or location from what I can tell.

At least some of the other guys have some heat and life on the fastball, struggle as they may.

Tom Servo
06-18-2021, 11:57 PM
I hope I wind up looking stupid for saying this.

But last night’s game left me with a very “2012 Game 3” bad taste in my mouth. Like you just knew the momentum had changed and the slumping Padres were waking up and streaking Reds were about to be humbled.

I hope I wind up looking like a chicken little here. The lack of bullpen help over the offseason is just so criminal. So many winnable games have slipped away in the latter innings this year. This team has all the other pieces to compete.
I get the feeling but who is even left from the 2013 team, just Votto? As much as it seems like we’re cursed I can’t really bring myself to believe such things.

So far this is just reminding me more of the Colorado series that started off looking like a possible drubbing by the Rockies but turned into a series split. The Padres are obviously a better team but the Reds aren’t chopped liver, soft bullpen underbelly aside.

Gunner44
06-18-2021, 11:57 PM
I see your side. Butt Shogo hasn't shown much. Wasn't like we had a starter with an off day getting a pinch hit.... This bullpen is horrendous. I have zero faith in anyone besides Antone and Sims.

JaxRed
06-18-2021, 11:59 PM
I disagree, you need runs and there were two on and he got a hitter up there to have a chance to tie or go ahead. Santillan didn't have it, maybe one of your lowest tier relievers can start to make a good impression and steal a game!

My only question was whether Aquino was the better choice but Bell went righty/lefty. I have no problem with that. Just didn't work.

Wonderful Monds
06-19-2021, 12:00 AM
Goudeau might be one of the stranger rostered players I can remember.

Is it because of the ironic nature of his name and its literary reference and the way it parallels waiting this bullpen to try to pull a decent game out of its ass?



Or just because he sucks probably, I’m guessing that’s it actually

Reds Fanatic
06-19-2021, 12:00 AM
Bases loaded for Tatis.

adkindo
06-19-2021, 12:00 AM
get him out of there

The Operator
06-19-2021, 12:00 AM
This seems less than optimal

NC-Red
06-19-2021, 12:00 AM
Took out the SP to bat Shogo lol….

The Operator
06-19-2021, 12:01 AM
I almost wonder if David Bell is making a point here lol

This is the bullpen you give me? Here’s what happens

Stray
06-19-2021, 12:01 AM
I'll be surprised if he doesn't give up a grand slam here

BluegrassRedleg
06-19-2021, 12:01 AM
fetal position

Ironman92
06-19-2021, 12:01 AM
The 5.5 hole seems appropriate in San Diego

Reds Fanatic
06-19-2021, 12:01 AM
5-2 on a Tatis single

coryfly
06-19-2021, 12:01 AM
Feel like leaving him in there was basically just giving up on the game.

Wonderful Monds
06-19-2021, 12:01 AM
Bases loaded for Tatis.

You what what’d be hilarious, is if they just tossed one up there to him underhand

The Operator
06-19-2021, 12:01 AM
5-2

Kc61
06-19-2021, 12:02 AM
So Reds managed to be in position for Goudeau to face Tatis with the bases loaded.

NC-Red
06-19-2021, 12:02 AM
4 game swept. Just pathetic. This is why you can’t take this team seriously, just a garbage team playing in a weak division

Tom Servo
06-19-2021, 12:02 AM
Think the idea was Goudeau giving you multi innings no matter what. Turns out he wasn’t any better than Santillan.

Wonderful Monds
06-19-2021, 12:02 AM
fetal position

More like fecal position with this bullpen

Big Klu
06-19-2021, 12:03 AM
I get the feeling but who is even left from the 2013 team, just Votto? As much as it seems like we’re cursed I can’t really bring myself to believe such things.

So far this is just reminding me more of the Colorado series that started off looking like a possible drubbing by the Rockies but turned into a series split. The Padres are obviously a better team but the Reds aren’t chopped liver, soft bullpen underbelly aside.

Reds Top Ten Seniority List (Reds debut date in parentheses):

1. Joey Votto (9/4/07)
2. Tucker Barnhart (4/3/14)
3. Michael Lorenzen (4/29/15)
4. Eugenio Suarez (6/11/15)
5. Brandon Finnegan (9/11/15)
6. Amir Garrett (4/7/17)
7. Jesse Winker (4/14/17)
8. Luis Castillo (6/23/17)
9. Tyler Mahle (8/27/17)
10. Alex Blandino (4/10/18)

The Operator
06-19-2021, 12:03 AM
This about like watching that Tanner Rainey outing a few years back, except this guy has about 10 less mph on his fastball.

Griffey012
06-19-2021, 12:03 AM
Who pitches with Blandino hurt?

Wonderful Monds
06-19-2021, 12:03 AM
4 game swept. Just pathetic. This is why you can’t take this team seriously, just a garbage team playing in a weak division

Dang they must be exhausted playing 36 innings in the last 24 hours!

davereds24
06-19-2021, 12:03 AM
I wonder how Castellini can watch something like this with a straight face.

Ironman92
06-19-2021, 12:04 AM
I almost wonder if David Bell is making a point here lol

This is the bullpen you give me? Here’s what happens

Seems unlikely but a thought

davereds24
06-19-2021, 12:04 AM
Who pitches with Blandino hurt?

Farmer has to be able to

VR
06-19-2021, 12:04 AM
Goooodow had a 4.81 career earnie in the minors. What part of that makes you think he should be in the bigs?

adkindo
06-19-2021, 12:05 AM
Who pitches with Blandino hurt?

I vote Aquino

mhs95_06
06-19-2021, 12:05 AM
My only question was whether Aquino was the better choice but Bell went righty/lefty. I have no problem with that. Just didn't work.

Change-up and curve would have wiped Aquino out!

JaxRed
06-19-2021, 12:05 AM
Wow. A pitcher from George Mason University died from complications from his Tommy John surgery. Blood clot.

Wonderful Monds
06-19-2021, 12:05 AM
I wonder how Castellini can watch something like this with a straight face.

http://mrwgifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/Jeff-Daniels-and-Jim-Carrey-Cry-and-Wipe-Their-Tears-With-Money-In-Dumb-and-Dumber.gif

The Operator
06-19-2021, 12:05 AM
I wonder how Castellini can watch something like this with a straight face.

I doubt he’s even watching. He’s sleeping like a baby on his king size mattress made of thousand dollar bills.

Big Klu
06-19-2021, 12:05 AM
Who pitches with Blandino hurt?

Freeman. He already has one pitching appearance this season.

Stray
06-19-2021, 12:06 AM
Cannot believe that didn't go worse than it did.

adkindo
06-19-2021, 12:06 AM
I think we were lucky given the possible outcome of that inning

The Operator
06-19-2021, 12:06 AM
Seems unlikely but a thought

I feel like Joe Maddon did something like that a few years back with The Cubs. Just let his bullpen take an absolute beating after the front office failed to get any help at the deadline.

I could be remembering wrong though.

Tom Servo
06-19-2021, 12:07 AM
I’m not gonna get on anybody too much because last night was a kick in the nuts and this game sucks too so far but I mean from the start of this one we threw out a guy who was like #8 on the depth chart going into the season. We’re down several players, including our top starter (no offense to Miley) and top bullpen guy. There’s no reason to overreact.

The Operator
06-19-2021, 12:08 AM
http://mrwgifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/Jeff-Daniels-and-Jim-Carrey-Cry-and-Wipe-Their-Tears-With-Money-In-Dumb-and-Dumber.gif

You win. Lol

Gunner44
06-19-2021, 12:08 AM
Like this 17378

Gif nor quote worked lol. Very similar to the reds bullpen

The Operator
06-19-2021, 12:09 AM
I’m not gonna get on anybody too much because last night was a kick in the nuts and this game sucks too so far but I mean from the start of this one we threw out a guy who was like #8 on the depth chart going into the season. We’re down several players, including our top starter (no offense to Miley) and top bullpen guy. There’s no reason to overreact.

Yea, they’re missing Sonny and Antone bad. Last night’s game doesn’t slip away with a healthy Antone. Tonight’s game looks a lot different with a healthy Sonny.

Ugh

KeefeCato
06-19-2021, 12:10 AM
I’m not gonna get on anybody too much because last night was a kick in the nuts and this game sucks too so far but I mean from the start of this one we threw out a guy who was like #8 on the depth chart going into the season. We’re down several players, including our top starter (no offense to Miley) and top bullpen guy. There’s no reason to overreact.

Usually the people who overreact. Are the ones rushing to post when the Reds might or do blow a late lead.

adkindo
06-19-2021, 12:11 AM
Wow. A pitcher from George Mason University died from complications from his Tommy John surgery. Blood clot.

I guess that is a risk with any surgery. Rare, but always a risk.

adkindo
06-19-2021, 12:12 AM
I’m not gonna get on anybody too much because last night was a kick in the nuts and this game sucks too so far but I mean from the start of this one we threw out a guy who was like #8 on the depth chart going into the season. We’re down several players, including our top starter (no offense to Miley) and top bullpen guy. There’s no reason to overreact.

Even at 100% health, our bullpen is not good if it has to be relied on for more than 2 innings per game over a series most of the season.

Reds Fanatic
06-19-2021, 12:14 AM
11 Ks for Paddack

texasdave
06-19-2021, 12:14 AM
Joey Votto hasn't been caught stealing since April 7, 2017.

Tom Servo
06-19-2021, 12:16 AM
Even at 100% health, our bullpen is not good if it has to be relied on for more than 2 innings per game over a series most of the season.
I'm feeling good about Antone, Sims, and Brach. Hembree in some spots and maybe Art Warren has got something. There's a lot of bad in there too but it isn't unsalvageable, at least with some creativity. If in August they're still relying on Garrett et al than yeah we're boned.

BluegrassRedleg
06-19-2021, 12:16 AM
They've made Paddack look like the second coming of Tom Seaver tonight.

The Operator
06-19-2021, 12:19 AM
Winker robs Hosmer and has some words for the Padre fans! Awesome

Big Klu
06-19-2021, 12:19 AM
Good catch by Winker!

BluegrassRedleg
06-19-2021, 12:19 AM
Hahaha. Winker talkin' a little smack after taking that HR away.

RedTeamGo!
06-19-2021, 12:19 AM
So we thinking “Sell?” Again?

The Operator
06-19-2021, 12:21 AM
Man this guy is batting practice lol

mhs95_06
06-19-2021, 12:21 AM
Good catch by Winker!

Fan should have out high pointed Winker on the catch!

Fil3232
06-19-2021, 12:21 AM
I can’t take any Goudeau tossing BP. We have to have somebody better on the 40 man

Griffey012
06-19-2021, 12:22 AM
Goudeau is what I imagine I would look like throwing to major league hitters. Where is Big Sal?

Stray
06-19-2021, 12:22 AM
So we thinking “Sell?” Again?

I'm thinking "For the love of God please improve this bullpen".

mhs95_06
06-19-2021, 12:22 AM
Joey Votto hasn't been caught stealing since April 7, 2017.

How many steals in that time, I'm guessing 4!

757690
06-19-2021, 12:23 AM
It seems the Padre hitters have been waiting for Goudeau to pitch to them all season long.

coryfly
06-19-2021, 12:23 AM
This game is just a byproduct of terrible pitchers pitching baseballs. Last night with the bullpen was as well but that was the game that really just still stings. Games like this will happen when you have to start players who really shouldn't start at this level due to injury.

This guy now is just getting rocked. It's like watching a JV pitcher try and get out the varsity guys.

The Operator
06-19-2021, 12:23 AM
Goudeau is what I imagine I would look like throwing to major league hitters. Where is Big Sal?

Yea, hard to understand shipping Big Sal out if you’re gonna use a guy like this.

REDREAD
06-19-2021, 12:24 AM
This guy is a complete (butt)hole. Shouldn’t be anywhere near a MLB roster.

Didn't they say that Colorado DFAed him (Goodeau) ? I think that's what I heard. Their bullpen is as bad or worse than ours.. I know, he might be better than C Perez, but this really shows how neglected the bullpen is this year.

coryfly
06-19-2021, 12:25 AM
Yea, hard to understand shipping Big Sal out if you’re gonna use a guy like this.

Yeah, unless I'm not remembering correctly Romano was way better than what we have here.

Tom Servo
06-19-2021, 12:25 AM
Goudeau is what I imagine I would look like throwing to major league hitters. Where is Big Sal?
https://i.imgur.com/XFqHtXEh.jpg

coryfly
06-19-2021, 12:26 AM
Hey, no runs that inning. Thanks Winker.

Stray
06-19-2021, 12:27 AM
That he only gave up 2 runs in 2 innings and this game isn't out of reach is a massive win.

Hamilton95
06-19-2021, 12:28 AM
When is the last time the Reds have robbed a home run???

texasdave
06-19-2021, 12:28 AM
The five Padre hitters that have led off an inning have: homered, homered, doubled (and scored), homered and been robbed of a homer.:beerme:

REDREAD
06-19-2021, 12:29 AM
I wonder how Castellini can watch something like this with a straight face.17379

Griffey012
06-19-2021, 12:29 AM
https://i.imgur.com/XFqHtXEh.jpg

Ha. Not far off but I feel like Sal at least went after hitters results be damned. I’d much rather watch that than Goudeau nibbling

Stray
06-19-2021, 12:29 AM
The five Padre hitters that have led off an inning have: homered, homered, doubled (and scored), homered and been robbed of a homer.

I'm no expert, but this sounds bad.

(for us)

Big Klu
06-19-2021, 12:31 AM
25 players have pitched for the Reds so far this season. 11 of them have an ERA of 5.00 or higher.

mhs95_06
06-19-2021, 12:32 AM
Both Reds pitchers so far have averaged one earned run per inning. That puts them on par with Garrett's 9.3 ERA. No other relievers on current roster are over 6 ERA.

The Operator
06-19-2021, 12:33 AM
Suarez having “another slump” per Sadak.

I’m not sure you can say the first slump ever stopped when the batting average never got above .190, John.

Wonderful Monds
06-19-2021, 12:34 AM
The five Padre hitters that have led off an inning have: homered, homered, doubled (and scored), homered and been robbed of a homer.:beerme:

Hey, things are looking up then

Tom Servo
06-19-2021, 12:35 AM
Suarez having “another slump” per Sadak.

I’m not sure you can say the first slump ever stopped when the batting average never got about .190, John.
Yeah everyone remotely connected to the Reds organization has frankly been way too nice about it, he's playing awful. You can still hope he'll stop being awful, but it will take WEEKS of good performance not just one or two decent games.

Big Klu
06-19-2021, 12:35 AM
Both Reds pitchers so far have averaged one earned run per inning. That puts them on par with Garrett's 9.3 ERA. No other relievers on current roster are over 6 ERA.

It puts them on par for that number for this game. Santillan's ERA for the season is now 4.70, and Goudeau's is currently 4.00.

The Operator
06-19-2021, 12:36 AM
Yeah everyone remotely connected to the Reds organization has frankly been way too nice about it, he's playing awful. You can still hope he'll stop being awful, but it will take WEEKS of good performance not just one or two decent games.

Yea. I mean I know he’s beloved and everything. We all love him too.

But he’s stinking up the joint and they keep running him out there on a daily basis and way too high in the lineup.

mhs95_06
06-19-2021, 12:36 AM
25 players have pitched for the Reds so far this season. 11 of them have an ERA of 5.00 or higher.

And we must have gotten rid of about half of them. At least management is trying. Good relievers, even just serviceable ones, don't grow on trees!

757690
06-19-2021, 12:40 AM
Wait, I’m confused. Why didn’t the first Padre hitter of the inning get an extra base hit?