6-27-21 Reds vs Braves 1:10pm

[Ron Madden]

Reds
1. Jonathan India (R) 2B
2. Joey Votto (L) 1B
3. Nick Castellanos (R) RF
4. Tyler Stephenson (R) C
5. Eugenio Suarez (R) 3B
6. Aristides Aquino (R) LF
7. Kyle Farmer (R) SS
8. Scott Heineman (R) CF
9. Tyler Mahle (R) P


Braves
1. Ronald Acuna Jr. (R) RF
2. Freddie Freeman (L) 1B
3. Ozzie Albies (S) 2B
4. Austin Riley (R) 3B
5. Dansby Swanson (R) SS
6. Abraham Almonte (S) LF
7. Guillermo Heredia (R) CF
8. Kevan Smith (R) C
9. Kyle Muller (R) P

[UPRedsFan]

Reds
1. Jonathan India (R) 2B
2. Joey Votto (L) 1B
3. Nick Castellanos (R) RF
4. Tyler Stephenson (R) C
5. Eugenio Suarez (R) 3B
6. Aristides Aquino (R) LF
7. Kyle Farmer (R) SS
8. Scott Heineman (R) CF
9. Tyler Mahle (R) P

Shogo could at least make contact and maybe take a walk and play better defense.
Heineman does not hit left handers any better than he does not hit right handers.

[BillDoran]

Shogo could at least make contact and maybe take a walk and play better defense.
Heineman does not hit left handers any better than he does not hit right handers.

Bell appears to have zero confidence in Shogo. Seems to get PA only as a last resort. There never seemed to be a plan to get him acclimated after injury delayed his start.

I thought he looked good to close out last season. It's a bummer, because he'll be back next year for $8 million. Hope he gets a chance to prove himself, but with the lack of play as the obvious CF replacement for Senzel, it doesn't seem in the cards.

[Ron Madden]

The Reds will start RHP Tyler Mahle (7-2, 3.56 ERA) in the finale. With Castillo struggling in the first two months and Sonny Gray injured, Mahle emerged as the Reds most effective starting pitcher.

With seven wins, Mahle has already matched his single-season career high when he went 7-9 in 2018. Mahle also ranks fifth in the National League in strikeouts per nine innings (11.26).

Mahle is 0-0 with a 4.91 ERA in two career starts against Atlanta.

LHP Kyle Muller (0-1, 5.40) is making his second start of the season for Atlanta. The Braves decided to go with a spot starter to give two extra days of rest to Charlie Morton, who will start Tuesday against the New York Mets.

In Monday's 4-2 win over the Mets, Muller earned a no decision after allowing one run on one hit in four innings. He struck out three and walked two.
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[Kc61]

Bell appears to have zero confidence in Shogo. Seems to get PA only as a last resort. There never seemed to be a plan to get him acclimated after injury delayed his start.

I thought he looked good to close out last season. It's a bummer, because he'll be back next year for $8 million. Hope he gets a chance to prove himself, but with the lack of play as the obvious CF replacement for Senzel, it doesn't seem in the cards.

Bell is very focused on L/R matchups. He is never going to start Shogo against a lefty. He isn’t even starting Naquin against the lefty.

Next year, with some changes in the OF, and perhaps a DH rule, it’s possible Shogo will get more reps.

Shogo is a good defensive OFer (especially in LF) which is one unfortunate aspect of his being on the bench. Reds’ pitchers need more help from the OF defensively.

[davereds24]

Hopefully Mahle can be pitch efficient today. Going to be a hot one.

[VR]

Clearly the game Heineman goes off.

[Ron Madden]

Charlie Goldsmith
@CharlieG__
Bell says he decided it was best for Jesse Winker to not be in the starting lineup today so he had more time to recover.

“Hopefully he’ll be available in game, pinch-hit, something like that."


Bobby Nightengale
@nightengalejr

Antone said an MRI showed no damage to his elbow ligament. He’s shut down from throwing right now.

Antone says the goal in his mind is returning the day after the All-Star break. It’s a different injury than his last trip on the IL.

David Bell said everything went as expected in Sonny Gray's rehab start yesterday. They'll talk with him today before determining the next step.

[JFLegal]

ron, muller is a lefty, fyi.

oh, maybe he bats right? not sure.

[KeefeCato]

I am not even going to say Bell. I will say whoever is making out this lineup lose the L R LR obsession. Especially when the guy can't hit against any handed pitcher.
Let's win this series.

[Indymoon]

When does Farmer get a day off?

I know many oppose but India at SS for a even a game or two opens up possibilities. Do positions really make that much difference in today’s game with all the shifting of IFs?

[KeefeCato]

Hard to believe but this Friday's game will be game 81.

[Mitri]

When does Farmer get a day off?

I know many oppose but India at SS for a even a game or two opens up possibilities. Do positions really make that much difference in today’s game with all the shifting of IFs?

Once Schrock is up I think we’ll see Geno get starts at SS with Farmer sitting. At least I hope.

[Reds Freak]

Let's root for pitch-efficient Mahle today and not the Mahle who needs 95 pitches to get through four innings.

[Reds]

Bell is doing shogo dirty.

[podgejeff_]

So Acuna has trouble laying off low and away?

[JaxRed]

Mahle got Acuna swinging. A lot of balls out of the zone. Easy grounder from Freeman and flyball from Albies. Nice inning.

[mhs95_06]

Acuna looking like Suarez going for that low outside slider!

[mhs95_06]

After Freeman blasted first pitches to him in the first two games, hasn't been successful the last 2 games.

[Reds Freak]

Let's root for pitch-efficient Mahle today and not the Mahle who needs 95 pitches to get through four innings.

12 pitches in the first. That's a good start.

[podgejeff_]

Nice easy inning for Mahle. Good sign.

[NebraskaRed]

Heineman and Mahle almost have the same batting average.

[RedsfaninMT]

Let's root for pitch-efficient Mahle today and not the Mahle who needs 95 pitches to get through four innings.

12 in the top half will do just fine!

[podgejeff_]

Man Acuna can run.

[JaxRed]

Reds go very quietly in the first. My pick for impact hitter today is Aquino

[mhs95_06]

Reds win the pitch count battle 12-19 in the first. But the battle to get the Reds starter out is way more important for the Braves to get to the Reds bullpen so they can score lots of runs. On the other hand, the Reds challenge is to get as many runs off the lefty starter before he goes out, however early or late that may be.

[JFLegal]

great defensive positioning there.

[mhs95_06]

Riley with smart hitting!

[JaxRed]

Reds win the pitch count battle 12-19 in the first. But the battle to get the Reds starter out is way more important for the Braves to get to the Reds bullpen so they can score lots of runs. On the other hand, the Reds challenge is to get as many runs off the lefty starter before he goes out, however early or late that may be.

I disagree. Better for us to get the lefty out. We never seem to hit lefties.

[NebraskaRed]

Looks like he's out but not sure they'll overturn this.

[JaxRed]

He's going to be out.

[NebraskaRed]

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[mhs95_06]

OS, good for the pitch count!

[WildcatFan]

I’m glad he’s out, but that’s the dumbest thing about replay to me, out because a piece of a cleat barely coming off the bag for 1/128 of a second.

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Jeez I thought that ball was going to my side of the river.

[BCubb2003]

I’m glad he’s out, but that’s the dumbest thing about replay to me, out because a piece of a cleat barely coming off the bag for 1/128 of a second.

Yes, for that fraction of a second, none of his molecules appeared to be mingling with the molecules of the base.

[JaxRed]

Nah he was totally off the bag. Totally legit. What is bogus is waiting 90 seconds when it was obvious after 5 seconds.

[WildcatFan]

Really we’re all star dust and all molecules are in contact with all other molecules, so “safe” and “out” are insufficient to describe the state of an outcome. Schrodinger’s Out, if you will.

[podgejeff_]

Really we’re all star dust and all molecules are in contact with all other molecules, so “safe” and “out” are insufficient to describe the state of an outcome. Schrodinger’s Out, if you will.

I believe you just articulated the reasoning behind most replay decisions. It's probably why it takes so long.

[JaxRed]

Suarez goes down flailing. Didn't even swing. He flailed.


Edit: More flailing by Aquino

[podgejeff_]

Let the pitching duel between Mahle and some guy commence!

[mhs95_06]

Classic case of the "climbing the ladder" strategy on Suarez, every pitch was higher than the succeeding pitch, with the 5th one, another fastball above the zone finishing the job.

[Kc61]

Reds 20th in MLB hitting against lefties with a .697 OPS. Better than is was earlier in season, but no great shakes.

Since Bell likes to platoon, he might consider whether some of his RHHs are the best guys for the job. Not seeing too many “lefty mashers” this year.

[JaxRed]

Mahle hiits Heredia. Another lead off man on...

[Kc61]

Of today’s position players, Suarez this year has the lowest OPS againt lefties, .524 OPS. He used to mash lefties. Heineman .564, Votto .588 OPS against lefties this year, some small samples Reds don’t face lefties that often.

[mhs95_06]

Very nice spliiter to K the back-up catcher.

[WildcatFan]

Of today’s position players, Suarez this year has the lowest OPS againt lefties, .524 OPS. He used to mash lefties. Heineman .564, Votto .588 OPS against lefties this year, some small samples Reds don’t face lefties that often.

And Shogo is, I assume, not allowed to even come to the ballpark when a lefty pitches.

[mhs95_06]

Could have gotten thru the 3rd facing only 9 batters, if only Votto would would just step over a couple steps and cover 1st when the runner takes 3 steps and the pitcher doesn't put the bat on the ball! Ends up costing at least 2 runs so far!

[Kc61]

And Shogo is, I assume, not allowed to even come to the ballpark when a lefty pitches.

.540 OPS against lefties in US major leagues, career. This year 2 hits in 8 PAs (7ABs) against them.

[BluegrassRedleg]

C’mon, Mahle. Jesus. Those two pitches to Acuna and Freeman??? You worked harder against the freakin’ pitcher.


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[BCubb2003]

Two-out runs get on my nerves.

[JaxRed]

Opening hit batter costs us....

[WildcatFan]

What is Larkin talking about

[NebraskaRed]

Havoc Heineman

[JaxRed]

Heineman lines a hard single.....

[Stray]

As expected, Heineman has our first hit of the game

[SomeCallMeTim]

Now he can get picked off dozing on 2nd…

[JaxRed]

Why so anxious to swing? That might have been ball 4

Edit.... got it on next pitch

[NebraskaRed]

First hit Heineman, first walk Mahle.

We all predicted that.

[Larry Schuler]

Sadak yelling the 3-0 call.

[JaxRed]

Nice rehab assignment from Hoffman today. 4 innings, 2 hits, 0 runs, 0 walks, 6 K's.

[mhs95_06]

India very disappointed that 3-1 pitch hit his bat for an out.

[NebraskaRed]

Nice rehab assignment from Hoffman today. 4 innings, 2 hits, 0 runs, 0 walks, 6 K's.

He'll look good in the bullpen

[coryfly]

I hate taking 3-0 there. That’s the best pitch you will see and your chance to do damage.


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[SomeCallMeTim]

Need an oppo hit…


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[Kc61]

Nice rehab assignment from Hoffman today. 4 innings, 2 hits, 0 runs, 0 walks, 6 K's.

Reds will probably re-insert Hoffman into the rotation. Pitched four innings, doesn’t look like they are prepping him for the bullpen.

[markusarrow]

Dammit Votto you are not all that anymore......

[mhs95_06]

India very disappointed that 3-1 pitch hit his bat for an out.

And you can see why as Votto was eaten up by the lefty to end the threat.

[TheBigLebowski]

Great AB by Joey.

[Kc61]

At some point Reds should begin to platoon Votto at first.

He needs the days off and doesn’t hit lefties much anymore.

[Stray]

What's the latest on Winker?

[mhs95_06]

At some point Reds should begin to platoon Votto at first.

He needs the days off and doesn’t hit lefties much anymore.

The one pitch he got wood on looked like it was an accident!

[BluegrassRedleg]

Hard to tell Reds are playing at home today from the crowd reactions.


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[JaxRed]

Reds will probably re-insert Hoffman into the rotation. Pitched four innings, doesn’t look like they are prepping him for the bullpen.

They are prepping him for rotation. But I'm not sure that's where he'll go. Easy to go bullpen once your ready to start. Not easy to go to rotation if you are in the pen. I personally would leave either Gutierrez or Santillan there (depending on who is hotter).

Hard to tell what Reds will do.

[Alf_Red_E]

There are at least some reinforcements on the way...

[TheBigLebowski]

They are prepping him for rotation. But I'm not sure that's where he'll go. Easy to go bullpen once your ready to start. Not easy to go to rotation if you are in the pen. I personally would leave either Gutierrez or Santillan there (depending on who is hotter).

Hard to tell what Reds will do.

It would be incredibly foolish to have him bump Santillan or Vlad from their spot unless they begin to struggle Hoffman is not an improvement over anyone. BP.

[NebraskaRed]

71 pitches in the 4th inning. Let's hope he can make it into the 6th.

[JaxRed]

Hoffman walked too many in majors. 39/27 ratio. This time in AAA he's 9/1. If he's learned to throw strikes that's huge.

[mhs95_06]

It would be incredibly foolish to have him bump Santillan or Vlad from their spot unless they begin to struggle Hoffman is not an improvement over anyone. BP.

Hoffman does have options, doesn't he?

[Kc61]

They are prepping him for rotation. But I'm not sure that's where he'll go. Easy to go bullpen once your ready to start. Not easy to go to rotation if you are in the pen. I personally would leave either Gutierrez or Santillan there (depending on who is hotter).

Hard to tell what Reds will do.

Just knowing the Reds’ typical moves, I expect Hoffman will start, Vlad will go to long relief (next in line to start) and Santillan back to AAA rotation. This assumes both Gray and Hoffman back.

But you’re correct, hard to tell this year with the bullpen issues.

[TheBigLebowski]

Hoffman does have options, doesn't he?

Shame we don’t

[JaxRed]

Hoffman does have options, doesn't he?

No.

[JaxRed]

Just knowing the Reds’ typical moves, I expect Hoffman will start, Vlad will go to long relief (next in line to start) and Santillan back to AAA rotation. This assumes both Gray and Hoffman back.

But you’re correct, hard to tell this year with the bullpen issues.

We're both guessing..... but my guess is if Hoffman goes to rotation, both Gutierrez and Santillan go back to AAA to start.

[JaxRed]

Reds continue to go quietly.

[mhs95_06]

After 4 innings, 71 and 73 pitches for the two starters.

[markusarrow]

Team is boring to watch even when your not just check in here and there.....

[BCubb2003]

The Reds need to do more of that going that the fans are always suggesting.

[TheBigLebowski]

This team sure likes to be stymied by garden variety, inconsequential lefties.

It’s really frustrating.

[Kc61]

We're both guessing..... but my guess is if Hoffman goes to rotation, both Gutierrez and Santillan go back to AAA to start.

We’re on the same wave length, however. The Reds will not lightly convert any of these guys to the bullpen. I’m guessing Vlad in long relief as a temporary stop.

Veteran starting pitching is very expensive. IMO Reds don’t make conversions to bullpen lightly. Only when the string is running out.

[mhs95_06]

Can't be more lucky than a purpose pitch hitting the bat for a strike.

[markusarrow]

Time to nail tht bastard next time....

[TheBigLebowski]

And that’s game.

[JFLegal]

mahle is getting shown up by a scrub rookie. good times.

*ocuna obviously not who i'm talking about.

[BluegrassRedleg]

Just absolute idiotic location. Again. To a guy who will swing at anything.


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[mhs95_06]

Can't be more lucky than a purpose pitch hitting the bat for a strike.

Un-nerved Mahle instead of Acuna!

[JFLegal]

And that’s game.

"thanks for coming to the park and giving us money that we will not spend to improve our bullpen."

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Un-nerved Mahle instead of Acuna!

yep, he has no killer instinct. i like mahle, but he just lacks that grit. he's decent. he'll never be a true top-of-rotation pitcher.

[WildcatFan]

117.4mph

[JFLegal]

Just absolute idiotic location. Again. To a guy who will swing at anything.


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and was already ticked off. just very poor pitching by mahle there.

[KeefeCato]

Time to nail tht bastard next time....

WHY?

[Alf_Red_E]

WHY?

Well someone ought to call the commish for all the flexing and taunting at least

[Alf_Red_E]

Mahle putting on batting gloves... don't kid yourself

fooled me... Does ANYONE think Mahle has anything left in the tank?

[Stray]

This guy is doing his best to walk everyone this inning. So far only Farmer would take it.

[JaxRed]

If I was Brave's manager, I would not mix and match righties and lefties. I would throw lefty after lefty.

[Stray]

Threw Heineman 5 balls. Strikeout lol.

[Larry Schuler]

Do we know whether Heineman is on the payroll for every other team in MLB?

[JaxRed]

I wonder if they pinch hit after wild pitch

So Barry will decide after the fact whether he likes Mahle staying in....

[Stray]

By my count he threw like maybe 4 or 5 strikes that inning. And struck out the side.

[traderumor]

Lefty killer Heinemann came into 2 for 22. Kinda makes you shake your head that Bell is considered an "analytics" heavy manager. Or someone hacked his computer and are feeding him bogus stats.

[REDREAD]

I would have probably pinch hit for Mahle there. Man in scoring position, 2 outs.
I realize the bats off the bench aren't so good, and the bullpen guys we use from behind aren't very good either, but I try to get that run in.

[TheBigLebowski]

No runs, 1 hit and 9 strikeouts in 5 innings.

Against something called “Kylefuller.”

[Alf_Red_E]

I don't understand NOT wanting to take advantage of 'man in scoring position, 2 out, pitcher's turn at the plate...
.
When will you want to use Wink?

[TheBigLebowski]

That’s just terrible.

[Alf_Red_E]

94 pitches... kept him in long enough to turn an acceptable day into a bad one.

THATs how much Bell hates his own bullpen

[JaxRed]

I would have probably pinch hit for Mahle there. Man in scoring position, 2 outs.
I realize the bats off the bench aren't so good, and the bullpen guys we use from behind aren't very good either, but I try to get that run in.

I would have also.

[KeefeCato]

I don't understand NOT wanting to take advantage of 'man in scoring position, 2 out, pitcher's turn at the plate...
.
When will you want to use Wink?

Doubt Wink is used.

[NebraskaRed]

94 pitches... kept him in long enough to turn an acceptable day into a bad one.

THATs how much Bell hates his own bullpen

Can you blame him?

[KeefeCato]

If they had a bullpen Mahle would have been hit for there. I still think he should have been.

[JaxRed]

With win percentage pretty low, I'd be getting a look at Cionel Perez, to see if his recent success at throwing strikes carries over. He'd be my first out of the bullpen.

[Redsfan5]

It’s Go Time!


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[Alabama Red]

I can’t believe we didn’t put up some runs against that guy. Some of the pitches they were swinging at were ridiculous. The Braves bullpen is awful so maybe there’s still a chance.

[Alf_Red_E]

With win percentage pretty low, I'd be getting a look at Cionel Perez, to see if his recent success at throwing strikes carries over. He'd be my first out of the bullpen.

His entire career is 'hey I figured it out yesterday'... he has no control, and no one can fix him

[Tom Servo]

I can’t believe we didn’t put up some runs against that guy. Some of the pitches they were swinging at were ridiculous. The Braves bullpen is awful so maybe there’s still a chance.
Rookie left-handers, the Reds long-time kryptonite

[Kc61]

Braves outfield is far superior to Reds’ defensively.

Reds’ infield has improved since Suarez came off shorstop. But the OF needs a DH rule or two.

[TheBigLebowski]

I can’t believe we didn’t put up some runs against that guy. Some of the pitches they were swinging at were ridiculous. The Braves bullpen is awful so maybe there’s still a chance.

Their starter was awful and we got nothing on him.

[Indymoon]

Terrible call on check swing just before Braves HR and the swing was almost identical to Heneman just inning before that 1b ump called swing.

[AG Slater]

Picked a hell of a game to go to. 1 hit and it shoulda been an error. They suck

[Alf_Red_E]

Braves outfield is far superior to Reds’ defensively.

Reds’ infield has improved since Suarez came off shorstop. But the OF needs a DH rule or two.

Maybe next year with the new CBA, Winker is DH, Naquin moves to LF, Senzel for CF

[Tom Servo]

Picked a hell of a game to go to. 1 hit and it shoulda been an error. They suck
you really gotta start enjoying a day at the ballpark more man lol

[mhs95_06]

I don't understand NOT wanting to take advantage of 'man in scoring position, 2 out, pitcher's turn at the plate...
.
When will you want to use Wink?

Batting 6th, 7th, 8th, or 9th the 3rd time thru the line-up.

[Alabama Red]

To me it looks like Cast has started chasing more balls out of the zone. Has anybody else noticed that?

[markusarrow]

Pass lol

[KeefeCato]

Rookie left-handers, the Reds long-time kryptonite

Pretty much any rookie pitcher.

[Alf_Red_E]

Pretty much any rookie pitcher.

Lots or rookies look good the first few times out... including our own

[Wonderful Monds]

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[NebraskaRed]

The Art of War has a great inning.

[Kc61]

Nice work by Warren.

[KeefeCato]

So now next time Warren will be brought into a close game and walk the park.

[Alabama Red]

Warren has been good everywhere he has pitched on pro ball. Seattle didn’t really advance him quickly and then let him go. He should probably stick with the Reds this time.

[Kc61]

Warren has been good everywhere he has pitched on pro ball. Seattle didn’t really advance him quickly and then let him go. He should probably stick with the Reds this time.

Very low HR/9 allowed in minor leagues.

[NebraskaRed]

Me watching that Naquin AB

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[mhs95_06]

Bell waited until after the P had reached his 3 batter minimum to put Winker up!

[Alf_Red_E]

Batting Winker last inning would not upset the lineup.

[REDREAD]

smart move to walk winker to get the heineman.

[TheBigLebowski]

I’d complain more about Hiney Man, but he’s the most productive hitter on the team. With 1 hit.

[Stray]

I'll take any LH OFer on our team vs a lefty before Heineman.

[Red Raindog]

I wonder if Doolittle understands any runs that score will be on his record and will not be inherited runners


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[KeefeCato]

I’d complain more about Hiney Man, but he’s the most productive hitter on the team. With 1 hit.

Every team has a Heineman. Problem is they don't platoon them. They are last guy off the bench.

[JaxRed]

Good spot for Doolittle to pitch. Lowest on my bullpen depth chart. I'd have Perez next. We wasted Warren in a game that was already probably gone.

[KeefeCato]

what little shot they had of winning. Do-nothing will probably end the chance.

[KeefeCato]

Nearly every pitch he throws screams hit me.

[REDREAD]

Dollittle SLAMS THE DOOR SHUT :lol:

[JaxRed]

Josh Naylor of Indians hurt on really ugly play....

[KeefeCato]

Still in slam range get some guys on base.

[757690]

That’s about the best outcome from Doolittle, a few batters reach, but no runs score.

[KeefeCato]

I wanted the Reds to sign Greene. Ugly numbers very small sample size.

[JaxRed]

Is the shift on for Votto this time?

[SomeCallMeTim]

Picked a hell of a game to go to. 1 hit and it shoulda been an error. They suck

Ask management for a refund.

[Stray]

Josh Naylor of Indians hurt on really ugly play....

I wish I hadn't seen that replay on Twitter.

[KeefeCato]

I wish I hadn't seen that replay on Twitter.

I refuse to look. I am guessing broken leg.

[JaxRed]

This was not Castellanos' day...

[LARKIN]

Pretty punchless today but still proud that these guys are in the hunt in late June.

[Alabama Red]

This was not Castellanos' day...
He got himself out swing at balls nowhere close to the strike zone.

[KeefeCato]

Pretty punchless today but still proud that these guys are in the hunt in late June.

With all the holes in this roster 38-38 is a miracle.

[JaxRed]

OK, Perez. I was calling for you. Throw strikes.

[JaxRed]

Generous strike 3 call...

[JaxRed]

Geez Barry.....

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Another strikeout.

[JaxRed]

Outstanding inning by Perez. Hope e survives the sticky stuff inspection.

[757690]

Perez looks like a different pitcher, throwing strikes, totally in control. Let’s hope this sticks.

[KeefeCato]

Perez and Warren could be really good if they could throw strikes in high leverage games. Lot easier to do that when pressure isn't on as much.

[TheBigLebowski]

One of the worst games of the season. Embarrassing display.

[757690]

Well that was no fun.

Let’s go beat the Phillies!

[markusarrow]

Disgusting

[KeefeCato]

Thank you scrub Heineman if not for the bloop would have been a 5 pitcher no hitter.

[Tom Servo]

We’re bad again. Can’t win if you can’t score.

[JaxRed]

Thank you scrub Heineman if not for the bloop would have been a 5 pitcher no hitter.

Except for that other hit.

[Big Klu]

Thank you scrub Heineman if not for the bloop would have been a 5 pitcher no hitter.

You forgot that Mike Freeman also had a hit.

[KeefeCato]

Except for that other hit.

Opps forgot . Scrub Freeman got a hit.

[mhs95_06]

Thank you scrub Heineman if not for the bloop would have been a 5 pitcher no hitter.

1st six spots in the order: 0/23 1 BB
Last 3 spots in the order: 2/6 3 BB

[Ron Madden]

Sometimes you just get beat.
It happens.

[Bruce Berenyi]

what esoteric profundity

[Tony Cloninger]

This was a must win and that sucked again. How can you suck this bad almost every time or so it seems. Incredibly bad display. No effort. No fire. Against a pitcher who’s barely pitched at all. You can’t do better this? So hard.

[50YrRedsFan]

8th time the Reds have been shutout this year.

[LARKIN]

This was a must win and that sucked again. How can you suck this bad almost every time or so it seems. Incredibly bad display. No effort. No fire. Against a pitcher who’s barely pitched at all. You can’t do better this? So hard.


Unfortunately I think the fact we keep losing once we get around 500 probably shows us what this team really is. Good for what we are used to, but a middling, just sub 500 club.
There are some nice parts and some intriguing guys for the future, but just no cohesion.
If you are going to run a defense out there like this one, along with the bullpen, you better have a consistent offense like the Dodgers. We do not have that. Yes, some of the #s are good, but there are a lot of holes up and down the lineup who simply are overmatched 70% of the time at this level.

[gagliano]

what esoteric profundity

LOL...reds credo should be: "if i had some bacon, i could have bacon and eggs...if i had some eggs"🤣

[Bruce Berenyi]

yes 20,000 posts of wisdom,, including sometimes you just get beat,, and were good again were bad again

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tony cloninger is right,, the reds should have started kelly paris at shortstop

[CrosleyVet]

I think they should seriously look at Votto and Suarez going forward, They are simply over matched. Also bringing in people like Heilamann and Freeman insn't going to work. The pitching is coming along but the offense is so inconsistent.

[757690]

I think they should seriously look at Votto and Suarez going forward, They are simply over matched. Also bringing in people like Heilamann and Freeman insn't going to work. The pitching is coming along but the offense is so inconsistent.

I agree on Suarez, but Votto has been solid all year, between a .750-.800 OPS. He just needs to sit against most lefties. His L/R splits are extreme.

[NC-Red]

I reiterate this offense is really bad. Only reason why it isn’t complained about more is how historically dreadful the bullpen is. Offense is only a half step ahead of last season where it didn’t score a run in two playoff games. I hope Castellanos and Winker move onto other teams and don’t waste away in Cincinnati

[Tony Cloninger]

Unfortunately I think the fact we keep losing once we get around 500 probably shows us what this team really is. Good for what we are used to, but a middling, just sub 500 club.
There are some nice parts and some intriguing guys for the future, but just no cohesion.
If you are going to run a defense out there like this one, along with the bullpen, you better have a consistent offense like the Dodgers. We do not have that. Yes, some of the #s are good, but there are a lot of holes up and down the lineup who simply are overmatched 70% of the time at this level.


I picked them to go 77-85 I think
So I am coming out ok in this and looking forward to winning the annual 1000$ best record pick RZ award.

[Tony Cloninger]

I reiterate this offense is really bad. Only reason why it isn’t complained about more is how historically dreadful the bullpen is. Offense is only a half step ahead of last season where it didn’t score a run in two playoff games. I hope Castellanos and Winker move onto other teams and don’t waste away in Cincinnati


Yet once again IPhone is your friend and they are 1-2 in BA/OBP/SLG. 2-3 in. runs scored. It’s not the offense that has held them back. With the non production of Suarez and Moose that’s a very good offense

[KeefeCato]

Love how certain people never post after a win. Only after a loss. I would find another hobby or another team. Yes I moan and groan when they lose. But I can and do enjoy myself when they win.

[Big Klu]

tony cloninger is right,, the reds should have started kelly paris at shortstop

I went to a game in 1983 that Kelly Paris started at SS. (5/29/83 vs. the Pirates)

Looking back at the box score, he had a good game -- 1-for-3 with an RBI and 2 runs scored, before being lifted in the ninth inning for PH Wayne Krenchicki.

[DocRed]

Red's bats were pathetic this series..

[Bruce Berenyi]

if you told m e you were AT a game with Neil Fiala I would have fALLEN OFF MY CHAIR

[NC-Red]

Love how certain people never post after a win. Only after a loss. I would find another hobby or another team. Yes I moan and groan when they lose. But I can and do enjoy myself when they win.

The Reds haven't won anything in 26 years. You must be moaning and groaning a lot