6-30-21 Reds vs Padres 7:10pm

[Ron Madden]

Reds
1. Jonathan India (R) 2B
2. Jesse Winker (L) LF
3. Nick Castellanos (R) RF
4. Joey Votto (L) 1B
5. Alejo Lopez (S) 3B
6. Tucker Barnhart (L) C
7. Kyle Farmer (R) SS
8. Shogo Akiyama (L) CF
9. Vladimir Gutierrez (R) P

Padres
1. Tommy Pham (R) LF
2. Fernando Tatis Jr. (R) SS
3. Jake Cronenworth (L) 2B
4. Manny Machado (R) 3B
5. Trent Grisham (L) CF
6. Wil Myers (R) RF
7. Jurickson Profar (S) 1B
8. Victor Caratini (S) C
9. Joe Musgrove (R) P

[mth123]

The Rookie with 2 PAs and no power hitting 5th. I'm glad he's in the line-up, but after Votto that is one weak hitting group.

[757690]

Congratulations to Alejo Lopez for his first MLB start!

[LARKIN]

Even with two of the best hitters in the league, this lineup is not very good at all. 5-8 looks like a Louisville special.

[Ironman92]

All capable of going 2/4 and all the top 4 are capable of going 0-4

Let’s win

[RedTeamGo!]

Even with two of the best hitters in the league, this lineup is not very good at all. 5-8 looks like a Louisville special.

Aren’t they like a top 5 lineup in MLB so far this year?

[markusarrow]

I think so actually...

[KeefeCato]

Happy for Lopez.

[AG Slater]

The Rookie with 2 PAs and no power hitting 5th. I'm glad he's in the line-up, but after Votto that is one weak hitting group.

** After Castellano's. I'd bat Lopez ahead of Votto or move Lopez to the 2 hole and move Winker and Cast down

[Strikes Out Looking]

Moving Lopez would screw up Bell's plug and play OCD based lineup. It can't be two RR or two LL next to each other because somehow that would give away the Reds advantage.

[CySeymour]

** After Castellano's. I'd bat Lopez ahead of Votto or move Lopez to the 2 hole and move Winker and Cast down

I don't really disagree, however I am just as happy for Winker and Castellanos to get more plate appearances.

[Moose Herd]

I know *****ing about the lineup is standard procedure, but Jesus Christ, it's enough already.

Reds are scoring 4.97 Runs/Game which is second in the NL behind the Dodger. And they've been even better in June (5.07 R/G).


The Reds are on pace to score the most runs as a team, since 2005. They have a great offense.


Some of you need to relax, because I think you're going to have a heart attack before we get to August.

[TexasRedsFan]

Is Naquin banged up and needing rest? If not, I'm surprised Shogo gets another start unless they're showcasing him for a trade.

[Mitri]

I know *****ing about the lineup is standard procedure, but Jesus Christ, it's enough already.

Reds are scoring 4.97 Runs/Game which is second in the NL behind the Dodger. And they've been even better in June (5.07 R/G).


The Reds are on pace to score the most runs as a team, since 2005. They have a great offense.


Some of you need to relax, because I think you're going to have a heart attack before we get to August.

Some of us have been here for 15, nearly 20 years. Complaining about the lineups is A RZ pastime. We’ll ***** about every game if we want to.

[AG Slater]

I don't really disagree, however I am just as happy for Winker and Castellanos to get more plate appearances.

Yeah I agree with the plate appearances. Am I the only one who gets excited when Winker and Cast hit and then immediately feel dread for the rest of the lineup?

[NebraskaRed]

Is Naquin banged up and needing rest? If not, I'm surprised Shogo gets another start unless they're showcasing him for a trade.

He's been dealing with a sore wrist for the past few days.

[JFLegal]

any chance this game actually gets played tonight?

[LARKIN]

Aren’t they like a top 5 lineup in MLB so far this year?

I know for a fact that this lineup hasn’t played one game together, so no. Do you think that’s a solid 5-8?

[CaiGuy]

They aren't all in there tonight, but besides the big two, Votto, Naquin, Barnhart, Stephenson, and India have been about average or better at the plate this year. And of course Moustakas when healthy. Aquino is solid off the bench.

The thinness of the lineup is way overstated.

They aren't a .500 team because they are "only" scoring the 2nd most runs in the league. It's because they give up even more than they score.

If you want to see a thin lineup, look at the much heralded Milwaukee.

[NebraskaRed]

https://twitter.com/CharlieG__/status/1410341986658308096?s=20


Charlie Goldsmith
@CharlieG__

I haven’t seen this before.

Usually, Reds players just take ground balls off a fungo bat. Today, Alejo Lopez and Mike Freeman are taking live grounders at third in a soft-toss setup, which is more game like.

[CySeymour]

I know for a fact that this lineup hasn’t played one game together, so no. Do you think that’s a solid 5-8?

Defensively it's pretty good. A run saved is as good as a run scored.

[Ron Madden]

Lance McAlister @LanceMcAlister

Reds have a winning record or .500 vs 12 of the 15 teams they have played this year.
Losing record vs Diamondbacks, Giants and Padres

Reds 39-39

2-16 vs AZ-SF-SD
37-23 vs rest MLB

Run differential
-55 vs AZ-SF-SD (64-119)
+52 vs rest MLB (324-272)

[KeefeCato]

Yeah I agree with the plate appearances. Am I the only one who gets excited when Winker and Cast hit and then immediately feel dread for the rest of the lineup?

You have made it clear you think Votto should give back his money to the front office.

[Kc61]

I posted on this earlier today.

Using Lopez instead of Suarez a few times a week makes good sense. Suarez has 320 PAs in the first half season, too many given his struggles at the plate.

I’m glad Bell made that move for tonight. I couldn’t care less where Lopez hits in the batting order.

[AG Slater]

Brewers have won 8 straight and are now 15 games over. No way this team is gonna catch them . Sellers

[RedsfaninMT]

The Rookie with 2 PAs and no power hitting 5th. I'm glad he's in the line-up, but after Votto that is one weak hitting group.

Yeah, Eugenio with the golden sombrero last night wasn't providing a whole lotta production from the 6 slot either.

[Moose Herd]

Brewers have won 8 straight and are now 15 games over. No way this team is gonna catch them . Sellers

I mean, I guess it’s possible the Brewers never lose again.

[RollyInRaleigh]

Some of us have been here for 15, nearly 20 years. Complaining about the lineups is A RZ pastime. We’ll ***** about every game if we want to.

Exactly...


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[REDREAD]

The Rookie with 2 PAs and no power hitting 5th. I'm glad he's in the line-up, but after Votto that is one weak hitting group.

Yea, they should have at least put Tyler Stephenson in instead of Barnhart if they were going to play Lopez and Shogo.
5-9 hitters very weak indeed, and Musgrove is a good pitcher.

[REDREAD]

Aren’t they like a top 5 lineup in MLB so far this year?

I don't want to read his mind, but the lineup is a lot less scary without Suarez, Naquin, and Stephenson in it.
And yea, I know Suarez is having a bad year, but at least he has power.

[REDREAD]

7:45 estimated start time.

[Reds Fanatic]

Leadoff walk to Pham

[Coopdaddy67]

The delay gave me time to put a homemade pizza in the oven, so that's a positive to start the night.

[Reds Fanatic]

Gutierrez strikes out Tatis

[Reds Fanatic]

Good inning for Gutierrez

[NebraskaRed]

"Ball" 4 for India

[NebraskaRed]

Yes!

[CySeymour]

Funk blast!!!

[NatiRedGals]

We deserved a crappy call going our way

[AG Slater]

Wink and Cast backs are so tired of carrying this team

[NebraskaRed]

Wink and Cast backs are so tired of carrying this team

Turning something positive into a negative, hmm?

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Reds need a triple this inning to complete the cycle after a walk, single, homerun, and now a double.

[AG Slater]

Reds should extend Vottos contract. Guy can hit

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Turning something positive into a negative, hmm?

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Reds need a triple this inning to complete the cycle after a walk, single, homerun, and now a double.

No. It was positive. They have been that damn good. Take them off this team and they are very bad. There's a reason they both will be in AS game

[KeefeCato]

Not elite Doubles off the CF wall.

[NatiRedGals]

Lopez took more then pitch I already like him

[NebraskaRed]

That was a good AB!

[757690]

Musgrove not fooling anyone. Another hot shot off the bat of Lopez for a productive out

[757690]

Musgrove not doing so well without the sticky stuff

[markusarrow]

Brewers are on fire dam....

[AG Slater]

Farmer hasn't been too bad for the Reds. Much better than Suarez. His defense is effecient also

[REDREAD]

well, that was a nice start.

[Stray]

Lotta good at bats that inning.

[KeefeCato]

Musgrove not doing so well without the sticky stuff

That thought crossed my mind as well.

[mbgrayson]

Musgrove threw 37 pitches in one inning. He is not going to be around long at that rate.....

[UKWhoDey]

Dirty Nick and the Boys all business tonight. Loving it. Let's go Reds

[KeefeCato]

Farmer hasn't been too bad for the Reds. Much better than Suarez. His defense is effecient also

As bad as Suarez has been his OPS is still higher than Farmers.

[NatiRedGals]

Lol

[757690]

That was fast

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Back to back rally killers, so that’s good, right?

[NebraskaRed]

Man, what the heck happened between innings?

[Mitri]

C'mon Vlad. As good as the top 6 of this lineup is, the bottom 3 should be automatic.

[AG Slater]

As bad as Suarez has been his OPS is still higher than Farmers.

You guys are truly obsessed with ops. Let's just base everyone's production on ops.

[Kc61]

As bad as Suarez has been his OPS is still higher than Farmers.

But Farmer can play shortstop.

[Moose Herd]

You guys are truly obsessed with ops. Let's just base everyone's production on ops.

It’s a decent stat that includes pretty much everything a fan might need to know. Its in common use now, they even slap it on the tv now, and the Jumbotron

[NebraskaRed]

Musgrove up to 57 pitches by the end of the 2nd.

[Redsfan5]

Come on


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[Banshee]

1st to 10 wins?

[JFLegal]

never fails when jim day interviews parents. bad things happen.

[TheBigLebowski]

They’re gonna blow this one too.

[757690]

Guys who throws lots of strikes + GABP = Lots of Home Runs

[Tom Servo]

Gutierrez was a prime candidate to see that HR/9 jump up, not an ideal time for it though.

I think the Padres have him approximately ten million home runs against the Reds this season.

[TheBigLebowski]

Glad Vlad off the bump. He’s a batting tee tonight.

[JFLegal]

barnhart is calling an awful game. tatis is stting on the curve ball on the first pitch, barnhart calls a curve. 0-2 count on the next guy, barnhart calls for a fastball in the zone, and vlad gives up a single. how about make him go fishing there?

[Mitri]

Put down the cell phone Mrs. Lopez, enjoy the moment. Jeesh.

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Don't you know you're being interviewed by Mr. Jim Day?!

[JFLegal]

Put down the cell phone Mrs. Lopez, enjoy the moment. Jeesh.

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Don't you know you're being interviewed by Mr. Jim Day?!

she was enjoying it man. she was video recording it because she thought it was so cool.

but jim day should never be allowed to interview parents while the reds are pitching. they ALWAYS give up runs when he does that.

[Redsfan5]

Mrs Lopez17409


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[Banshee]

Pads' hitting rockets off of Vladi.

[RedTeamGo!]

Who knew throwing 92 mph fastballs down the heart of the plate against major leaguers is not sustainable. I, for one, am shocked!

[NebraskaRed]

4 runs isn't going to cut it so I suggest they score runs.

[Kc61]

Vlad simply gives up too much contact. Few MLB starters succeed with K rates around 7 especially at places like GABP. Usually ground ball guys with low walk rates.

[JFLegal]

1k ribbies

[NebraskaRed]

Safe to say that Votto has Musgrove figured out.

[TheBigLebowski]

He obliterated that. Man oh man.

[Bob Sheed]

This might turn into a high scoring game if they keep it up. :lol:

[KeefeCato]

Not Elite Hits a HR

[Redsfan5]

Vottomatic 1000


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[SomeCallMeTim]

Brewers are on fire dam....

10-3 since the Reds sweep in Milwaukee. Was it something we said?

[757690]

I hope Pete has the over for tonight

[RedTeamGo!]

We need to bench Votto

[markusarrow]

Nice way to get 1000 congrats Votto...

[Larkin Fan]

Congrats on RBI #1000, Mr. Votto.

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10-3 since the Reds sweep in Milwaukee. Was it something we said?

More like something we did!

[Tom Servo]

Votto :clap:

[RedsfaninMT]

Votto OPS now at .800!

[Big Klu]

Just got home. Castellanos has tied César Cedeño for 11th place among players of Hispanic heritage on the Reds all-time home run list.

1. Tony Pérez [🇨🇺] - 287
2. Eugenio Suárez [🇻🇪] - 174
3. Dave Concepción [🇻🇪] - 101
4. Leo Cárdenas [🇨🇺] - 72
5. Edwin Encarnación [🇩🇴] - 71
6. Wily Mo Peña [🇩🇴] - 54
7. César Gerónimo [🇩🇴] - 44
8. Felipe López [🇵🇷] - 41
9. Bo Díaz [🇻🇪] - 39
10. Javier Valentín [🇵🇷] - 34

11. César Cedeño [🇩🇴] - 30
11. Nick Castellanos [🇺🇸/🇨🇺] - 30
13. Mariano Duncan [🇩🇴] - 28
13. José Peraza [🇻🇪] - 28
15. José Guillén [🇩🇴] - 27
16. Juan Castro [🇲🇽] - 25
16. Aristides Aquino [🇩🇴] - 25
18. Ramón Hernández [🇻🇪] - 24
19. Eduardo Pérez [🇺🇸/🇵🇷] - 23
20. Yasiel Puig [🇨🇺] - 22

21. Alex Ochoa [🇺🇸/🇨🇺] - 20
22. Luis Quiñones [🇵🇷] - 19
22. Benito Santiago [🇵🇷] - 19
22. D'Angelo Jiménez [🇩🇴] - 19
22. Alex González [🇻🇪] - 19
26. Juan Encarnación [🇩🇴] - 16
27. Jerry Hairston, Jr. [🇺🇸/🇲🇽] - 14
28. Miguel Cairo [🇻🇪] - 13
29. Roberto Kelly [🇵🇦] - 12
29. Freddy Galvis [🇻🇪] - 12

31. José Iglesias [🇨🇺] - 11
32. Rubén Rivera [🇵🇦] - 10
33. Tony Fernández [🇩🇴] - 8
34. Jacob Cruz [🇺🇸/🇲🇽] - 7
35. Carmelo Martínez [🇵🇷] - 6
35. Bronson Arroyo [🇺🇸/🇨🇺] - 6
35. Kristopher Negrón [🇺🇸/🇵🇷] - 6

38. Dolf Luque [🇨🇺] - 5
38. Héctor Cruz [🇵🇷] - 5
38. Rubén Mateo [🇩🇴] - 5
38. Édgar Rentería [🇨🇴] - 5
38. Juan Francisco [🇩🇴] - 5
38. Yonder Alonso [🇨🇺] - 5
38. Brayan Peña [🇨🇺] - 5
38. Iván DeJesús, Jr. [🇵🇷] - 5
38. Dilson Herrera [🇨🇴] - 5

47. Juan Samuel [🇩🇴] - 4
47. Adam Rosales [🇺🇸/🇲🇽] - 4
47. Orlando Cabrera [🇨🇴] - 4
47. Ramón Cabrera [🇻🇪] - 4
51. Rafael Almeida [🇨🇺] - 3
51. Tony González [🇨🇺] - 3
51. Dave Martinez [🇺🇸/🇵🇷] - 3
51. Roberto Petagine [🇻🇪] - 3
51. Jolbert Cabrera [🇨🇴] - 3

56. Elio Chacón [🇻🇪] - 2
56. Chico Ruiz [🇨🇺] - 2
56. Pat Corrales [🇺🇸/🇲🇽] - 2
56. Julián Javier [🇩🇴] - 2
56. Alex Treviño [🇲🇽] - 2
56. José Rijo [🇩🇴] - 2
56. Rubén Sierra [🇵🇷] - 2
56. Melvin Nieves [🇵🇷] - 2
56. Guillermo García [🇩🇴] - 2
56. Ray Olmedo [🇻🇪] - 2
56. Dioner Navarro [🇻🇪] - 2
56. Ramón Santiago [🇩🇴] - 2
56. Alex Blandino [🇺🇸/🇳🇮] - 2

69. Armando Marsans [🇨🇺] - 1
69. Manuel Cueto [🇨🇺] - 1
69. Arturo DeFreites [🇩🇴] - 1
69. Sam Mejías [🇩🇴] - 1
69. Rafael Landestoy [🇩🇴] - 1
69. Mario Soto [🇩🇴] - 1
69. Leo García [🇩🇴] - 1
69. Freddie Benavides [🇺🇸/🇲🇽] - 1
69. Wilton Guerrero [🇩🇴] - 1
69. Jorge Cantú [🇺🇸/🇲🇽] - 1
69. Willy Taveras [🇩🇴] - 1
69. Chris Dominguez [🇺🇸/🇨🇺] - 1
69. Arismendy Alcántara [🇩🇴] - 1
69. Tony Cruz [🇺🇸/🇨🇺] - 1
69. Gabriel Guerrero [🇩🇴] - 1

[KeefeCato]

We need to bench Votto

Don't forget he is a over payed. Heard that in last nights thread.

[Big Klu]

Congratulations to Joey Votto on his 1000th RBI! #notelite


Updated Reds HR list (players in italics are active):

Reds 100-Home Run Club
1. Johnny Bench - 389
2. Frank Robinson - 324
3. Joey Votto - 305
4. Tony Pérez - 287
5. Adam Dunn - 270
6. Ted Kluszewski - 251
7. George Foster - 244
8. Jay Bruce - 233
9. Ken Griffey, Jr. - 210
10. Eric Davis - 203
11. Barry Larkin - 198
12. Brandon Phillips - 191
13. Vada Pinson - 186
14. Eugenio Suárez - 174
15. Wally Post - 172
16. Gus Bell - 160
17. Joe Morgan - 152
17. Pete Rose - 152
19. Lee May - 147
20. Dan Driessen - 133
21. Reggie Sanders - 125
22. Ernie Lombardi - 120
23. Sean Casey - 118
24. Frank McCormick - 110
25. Todd Frazier - 108
26. Dave Parker - 107
27. Chris Sabo - 104
28. Dave Concepción - 101

[AG Slater]

Congrats to Votto . Yes slater has been hard on his last couple of seasons , but it takes a real ball player to get to 1000 RBI. Well done sir

[Moose Herd]

Votto OPS now at .800!

Batting average and spunk only in this thread please.

[NebraskaRed]

Votto OPS now at .800!

I was told by someone on here that Votto shouldn't start more than 1 game a week, at most.

[AG Slater]

Congratulations to Joey Votto on his 1000th RBI! #notelite


Updated Reds HR list (players in italics are active):

Reds 100-Home Run Club
1. Johnny Bench - 389
2. Frank Robinson - 324
3. Joey Votto - 305
4. Tony Pérez - 287
5. Adam Dunn - 270
6. Ted Kluszewski - 251
7. George Foster - 244
8. Jay Bruce - 233
9. Ken Griffey, Jr. - 210
10. Eric Davis - 203
11. Barry Larkin - 198
12. Brandon Phillips - 191
13. Vada Pinson - 186
14. Eugenio Suárez - 174
15. Wally Post - 172
16. Gus Bell - 160
17. Joe Morgan - 152
17. Pete Rose - 152
19. Lee May - 147
20. Dan Driessen - 133
21. Reggie Sanders - 125
22. Ernie Lombardi - 120
23. Sean Casey - 118
24. Frank McCormick - 110
25. Todd Frazier - 108
26. Dave Parker - 107
27. Chris Sabo - 104
28. Dave Concepción - 101

Fitting that Lark is 11th. Goat

[Big Klu]

We need to bench Votto


Votto OPS now at .800!

#notelite

[AG Slater]

I was told by someone on here that Votto shouldn't start more than 1 game a week, at most.

Guy must be an idiot

[AG Slater]

#notelite

He isn't elite anymore to be fair. He was at one point. His BA is still .250 or below. Oh hold on but his ops. Forgot that's the only stat that matters although it can be drastically changed by a few walks

[Wonderful Monds]

He isn't elite anymore to be fair. He was at one point. His BA is still .250 or below. Oh hold on but his ops. Forgot that's the only stat that matters although it can be drastically changed by a few walks

Breaking news: walks are good

[RedTeamGo!]

He isn't elite anymore to be fair. He was at one point. His BA is still .250 or below. Oh hold on but his ops. Forgot that's the only stat that matters although it can be drastically changed by a few walks

His batting average is .256 now and climbing.

[Roy Tucker]

It’s pouring rain up here in Mason.

[markusarrow]

Liking this pitcher with some nasty stuff out there...

[Tom Servo]

need more runs

[JFLegal]

shogo has no clue up there.

[BluegrassRedleg]

Jesus, Shogo.

[NebraskaRed]

For a second, I think Vlad thought he had hit it out.

[KeefeCato]

He isn't elite anymore to be fair. He was at one point. His BA is still .250 or below. Oh hold on but his ops. Forgot that's the only stat that matters although it can be drastically changed by a few walks

BA LOL.

[RedsfaninMT]

He isn't elite anymore to be fair. He was at one point. His BA is still .250 or below. Oh hold on but his ops. Forgot that's the only stat that matters although it can be drastically changed by a few walks

If you think AVG is a better indicator of success than OPS well then, that explains a lot

[Roy Tucker]

I hope they hurry up and get 5 innings in. Rain is coming.

[JFLegal]

struckout again, and he's got no game.

hey-ey, shogo gives fleas ... a bad name.

[Big Klu]

I mentioned this on a previous thread, but it was after the game was over so not many people saw it. This was the complete Reds all-time home run list for players of Hispanic heritage when I went to my first Reds game on April 5, 1982 (Opening Day):


1. Tony Pérez [🇨🇺] - 277
2. Dave Concepción [🇻🇪] - 81
3. Leo Cárdenas [🇨🇺] - 72
4. César Gerónimo [🇩🇴] - 44
5. Dolf Luque [🇨🇺] - 5
5. Héctor Cruz [🇵🇷] - 5
7. Rafael Almeida [🇨🇺] - 3
7. Tony González [🇨🇺] - 3
9. Elio Chacón [🇻🇪] - 2
9. Chico Ruiz [🇨🇺] - 2
9. Pat Corrales [🇺🇸/🇲🇽] - 2
9. Julián Javier [🇩🇴] - 2
13. Armando Marsans [🇨🇺] - 1
13. Manuel Cueto [🇨🇺] - 1
13. Arturo DeFreites [🇩🇴] - 1
13. Sam Mejías [🇩🇴] - 1


Yes, a pitcher was fifth on the list!

[NebraskaRed]

Boy do I not like people chanting "overrated" at Tatis. It's dumb. And a bad look.

[KeefeCato]

I mentioned this on a previous thread, but it was after the game was over so not many people saw it. This was the complete Reds all-time home run list for players of Hispanic heritage when I went to my first Reds game on April 5, 1982 (Opening Day):


1. Tony Pérez [����] - 277
2. Dave Concepción [����] - 81
3. Leo Cárdenas [����] - 72
4. César Gerónimo [����] - 44
5. Dolf Luque [����] - 5
5. Héctor Cruz [����] - 5
7. Rafael Almeida [����] - 3
7. Tony González [����] - 3
9. Elio Chacón [����] - 2
9. Chico Ruiz [����] - 2
9. Pat Corrales [����/����] - 2
9. Julián Javier [����] - 2
13. Armando Marsans [����] - 1
13. Manuel Cueto [����] - 1
13. Arturo DeFreites [����] - 1
13. Sam Mejías [����] - 1


Yes, a pitcher was fifth on the list!

Was that Soto vs. Bird Reds vs, Cubs? or am I thinking of a different opener?

[Ironman92]

For a second, I think Vlad thought he had hit it out.

Tell Barry I said hi

[RedsfaninMT]

I mentioned this on a previous thread, but it was after the game was over so not many people saw it. This was the complete Reds all-time home run list for players of Hispanic heritage when I went to my first Reds game on April 5, 1982 (Opening Day):


1. Tony Pérez [����] - 277
2. Dave Concepción [����] - 81
3. Leo Cárdenas [����] - 72
4. César Gerónimo [����] - 44
5. Dolf Luque [����] - 5
5. Héctor Cruz [����] - 5
7. Rafael Almeida [����] - 3
7. Tony González [����] - 3
9. Elio Chacón [����] - 2
9. Chico Ruiz [����] - 2
9. Pat Corrales [����/����] - 2
9. Julián Javier [����] - 2
13. Armando Marsans [����] - 1
13. Manuel Cueto [����] - 1
13. Arturo DeFreites [����] - 1
13. Sam Mejías [����] - 1


Yes, a pitcher was fifth on the list!

I saw that last night and my thought then was the same as I have now...damn you're young! I'm truly sorry you're not old enough to remember "The Machine!"

[coryfly]

Boy do I not like people chanting "overrated" at Tatis. It's dumb. And a bad look.

I always hate the overrated chant. I have never even understood how it makes sense as a slight anyway.

[JFLegal]

jeez, we better not gift another game away to the pads.

[Ironman92]

Boy do I not like people chanting "overrated" at Tatis. It's dumb. And a bad look.

It’s really really dumb….but I imagine those doing it are too

[JFLegal]

great defensive play by vlad

[KeefeCato]

It’s really really dumb….but I imagine those doing it are too

Probably the same idiots that WOO

[Roy Tucker]

Tatis isn’t overrated. He is the real deal.

[JFLegal]

I hope they hurry up and get 5 innings in. Rain is coming.

doesn't matter any longer. game will be resumed if it's postponed. rule changed.

[Big Klu]

Was that Soto vs. Bird Reds vs, Cubs? or am I thinking of a different opener?

Yes, that's the game!


Clint Hurdle's pinnacle of his career as a Red -- throwing Bill Buckner out at the plate twice from LF.

Alex Treviño was intentionally walked! (Because Rafael Landestoy was on deck as a PH...)

John McNamara was ejected.

It was Ryne Sandberg's first game as a Cub. (He played 3B and batted 7th.)

[Bob Sheed]

Osich, it's Osich...

[Roy Tucker]

doesn't matter any longer. game will be resumed if it's postponed. rule changed.

I wondered about that. Thanks.

[Bushman]

Game has a feel that this is gonna get pissed away.

EDIT: Welp, told ya.

[GADawg]

i'll take the Padres manager if they decide to have a MLB managers royal rumble

[KeefeCato]

I don't think this is a good spot for a pitch to contact pitcher to come into.

[markusarrow]

Pouring in florence heading to the park....

[KeefeCato]

Yes, that's the game!


Clint Hurdle's pinnacle of his career as a Red -- throwing Bill Buckner out at the plate twice from LF.

Alex Treviño was intentionally walked! (Because Rafael Landestoy was on deck as a PH...)

John McNamara was ejected.

It was Ryne Sandberg's first game as a Cub. (He played 3B and batted 7th.)

Where did those 39 years go?

[coryfly]

Probably a good move to get him out. Even most of the outs have been absolute rockets. Not sure who is a good option to bring in though.

[NebraskaRed]

Ah well...

[coryfly]

Well, seems that bringing him in wasn't what was called for.

[JFLegal]

screw this front office and ownership for blowing this game. the bullpen didn't blow it. ownership did. because a good team wouldn't even have something called josh osich on their roster.

clown factory.

[Roy Tucker]

Hum.

[Ironman92]

Probably the same idiots that WOO

Jorts and boots amuck

[Bob Sheed]

"No need to trade, we're going to see what we have in-house."

[kaldaniels]

Bullpen is ass.

[mhs95_06]

Front door breaking ball didn't work -- grrand slam and 2 run deficit!

[AG Slater]

O**** for osich

[coryfly]

Just two teams on very different levels in a lot of ways.

[BluegrassRedleg]

Parade out the clowns, you get a circus.

[JFLegal]

Bullpen is ass.

ownership and front office is worse. guess who is responsible for putting a bunch of minor league pitchers in the reds' bullpen?

[Puff]

Well that sucked.

[RiverRat13]

The Padres are our daddies...

[kaldaniels]

ownership and front office is worse.

Taint.

[TheBigLebowski]

That’s all for me. This God-forsaken franchise. Soooooooo tired of this ****

[markusarrow]

come on rain

[Redsfan5]

Can the ball elf pitch


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[GADawg]

outside of the Brewers it seems like every team i watch doesn't know what they're getting when the bullpen door opens up

[mhs95_06]

Well, seems that bringing him in wasn't what was called for.

It was with what we have, BUT it didn't work!

[REDREAD]

They’re gonna blow this one too.

I hope that was not prophetic.. :(
Although with 1/3 of the regulars out, Vlad starting, Musgrove starting (even though he ended up stinking), bullpen used heavy yesterday.. and it just being the padres.. I didn't have a good feeling before the game began.
Will be nice tomorrow.. whoever is starting will be better than the 2 rookies.

[KeefeCato]

Bullpen is ass.

It is for sure. Put so is that joke of a ball park. So sick of the fence scraper HRs. That would not be out anywhere else. I know it plays the same for both teams though.

[Roy Tucker]

Balls are jumping.

[AG Slater]

Padres are the Reds daddys

[JFLegal]

sucks being a fan of this horrible franchise. screw castellini, the williams' and everyone else who is responsible for this disaster. you all suck and do not deserve our loyalty.

[kaldaniels]

Balls are jumping.

Shut up Sadak.

[mhs95_06]

outside of the Brewers it seems like every team i watch doesn't know what they're getting when the bullpen door opens up

And how many in a row have they won?

[Big Klu]

I saw that last night and my thought then was the same as I have now...damn you're young! I'm truly sorry you're not old enough to remember "The Machine!"

I was 12 in 1982. I was only 5 and 6 years old for the 1975 & '76 World Champions. I remember that they were good, and I knew who some of the players were at that age, but I don't really remember the team on the field. I have watched the World Series games since then (I have the 1975 Series on DVD), and I love watching them -- I really appreciate them as a team. But I have no first-hand memories of them. My earliest first-hand memories of the Reds are of Pete's 44-game hitting streak in 1978.

That's why I say that "my team" is the 1990 team. I respect and venerate the BRM, but I lived and died with the 1990 team.

[JFLegal]

oh, another scrub named austin goudreau is warming up!

this franchise keeps urinating on its fans. good times.

[TheBigLebowski]

Osich is the best choice we had in the 5th with a 2 run lead. Joel Freaking Osich. What a bad joke.

[GADawg]

wasn't Profar supposed to be a superstar?

[AG Slater]

Osich is the best choice we had in the 5th with a 2 run lead. Joel Freaking Osich. What a bad joke.

Give him a chance now guys. He threw one bad pitch. He could be a useful lefty

[JFLegal]

best 1-2 punch in recent memory with wink/cast. very good lineup overall. good starting rotation.

all that was missing was good bullpen. and this idiot front office decides to throw feces at the wall.

[Roy Tucker]

Shut up Sadak.

Nothing worse than jumping balls.

[757690]

Barnhart saves us from more Osich

[JFLegal]

Osich is the best choice we had in the 5th with a 2 run lead. Joel Freaking Osich. What a bad joke.

you weren't impressed with his over 5 ERA in triple-A this year?

[KeefeCato]

wasn't Profar supposed to be a superstar?

Yes.

[AG Slater]

I take it back.now if the game gets called he lost us the game

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you weren't impressed with his over 5 ERA in triple-A this year?

Lol

[Ironman92]

Nothing worse than jumping balls.

I’ll go with busted balls

[JFLegal]

no doubt amanda knows her way around a kitchen!

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oh, just in time for a rain delay so everyone can reflect on this team blowing a 4-0 lead at home. good times.

[JFLegal]

i blame the reds' ownership group for the weather too. because, frankly they don't get enough blame in general.

winker in a hurry to get to the rain delay?

[Big Klu]

Nothing worse than jumping balls.

I think Bon Scott sang a song about that.

[REDREAD]

It is for sure. Put so is that joke of a ball park. So sick of the fence scraper HRs. That would not be out anywhere else. I know it plays the same for both teams though.

yep, Carl Lindner's grand plan was to make the GAB a bandbox to sell tickets to watch Jr break the Aaron HR record.. then his flunkies kept trotting Jr out as a PH when he was still hurt and ruined him.. Pretty much summarizes Linder's legacy.

[JFLegal]

ha, he tried to quick-pitch cast but he gets an infield single.

[757690]

Tatis making Suarez look like Concepcion

[DocRed]

Bell is an ijit

[JFLegal]

how slow is votto? my god no way that should have been a DP.

[Ironman92]

Tatis making Suarez look like Concepcion

Suarez offense making himself look like Concepcion

[NebraskaRed]

Votto is the worst. Bench him.

[Big Klu]

Tatis making Suarez look like Concepcion

I foresee a move to the OF in Tatis' future -- probably in the next three years.

[Griffey012]

Does David Bell actually watch the game he is managing? Just jumping into the thread but it seemed totally predictable the 3rd time through was going to be a rough go for Vlad tonight based on the consistent loud contact in the innings prior.

[Tom Servo]

When's the last time a team so thoroughly owned the Reds like the Padres have this season? At least the Reds won a game against SF and ARI this year.


Does David Bell actually watch the game he is managing? Just jumping into the thread but it seemed totally predictable the 3rd time through was going to be a rough go for Vlad tonight based on the consistent loud contact in the innings prior.Bullpen was overworked last night due to a similar start from Santillan. Not really any good choices here.

[Bob Sheed]

Does David Bell actually watch the game he is managing? Just jumping into the thread but it seemed totally predictable the 3rd time through was going to be a rough go for Vlad tonight based on the consistent loud contact in the innings prior.

O**** didn't really do any better...

[AG Slater]

When's the last time a team so thoroughly owned the Reds like the Padres have this season? At least the Reds won a game against SF and ARI this year.

Bullpen was overworked last night due to a similar start from Santillan. Not really any good choices here.

Phillies from about 2008-2012

[JFLegal]

a team has beaten you 5 games in a row. you get up 4-0 on them.

and you still piss it away.

good times. would be great to follow a team with some grit.

or a good ownership group. ok, i'd take the latter for sure.

[Coopdaddy67]

Does David Bell actually watch the game he is managing? Just jumping into the thread but it seemed totally predictable the 3rd time through was going to be a rough go for Vlad tonight based on the consistent loud contact in the innings prior.

I'm sure he does. He probably looked down at his bullpen, got sick to his stomach and said a prayer.

[REDREAD]

And now the crown jewel of last offseason.. Cionel Perez.. Bell just punting the game now. I know the bullpen was used yesterday, but we're only down 2 runs.

[KeefeCato]

He should have brought Perez in over Osich. Yes Perez may have walked in two runs. But he could have gotten strikeouts that were needed. Osich pitch to contact pitcher with bases loaded not a good combo.

[REDREAD]

Does David Bell actually watch the game he is managing? Just jumping into the thread but it seemed totally predictable the 3rd time through was going to be a rough go for Vlad tonight based on the consistent loud contact in the innings prior.

I hate to defend Bell, but the bullpen was used heavily yesterday. They really needed Vlad to go 5 innings.
But I Agree, it was obvious Vlad was going to implode.

[Roy Tucker]

I think they need to get the fans out of the stands.

[Bob Sheed]

gg, this rain will be here a while.

[JFLegal]

and there's the weather delay.

[NebraskaRed]

And now the crown jewel of last offseason.. Cionel Perez.. Bell just punting the game now. I know the bullpen was used yesterday, but we're only down 2 runs.

I don't know, with it raining like it is, best to use someone you don't care about losing.

[Big Klu]

No, John Sadak. The hand of God touching down was what happened in Xenia in 1974.

[757690]

So is this an official game with the new rules?

[kaldaniels]

I look like Captain Hindsight here but at the time I wouldn’t have taken Vlad out.

[JFLegal]

I think they need to get the fans out of the stands.

i think they need to get this ownership group out of town.

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So is this an official game with the new rules?

no. it will be picked up where it left off, either tonight (unlikely) or tomorrow, or whenever.

[757690]

No, John Sadak. The hand of God touching down was what happened in Xenia in 1974.

While that was a tragedy, I was a kid living nearby and had a blast picking up all the softball size hail after that. We had a freezer full of them for awhile.

[Monster Man]

Sadak is so annoying. Please tell me he’s on a one year deal. I thought Georgie boy Grande was the worst, but not sure anymore.

[MrRedSkull]

no doubt amanda knows her way around a kitchen!

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oh, just in time for a rain delay so everyone can reflect on this team blowing a 4-0 lead at home. good times.

I’ve known Amanda since 1983. She was a year ahead of me in school. I have nothing bad to say about her. But, I do agree with your take on the front office. Idk what more they need to see to make a move. How many games has the bullpen blown & singlehandedly lost? It’s enough that the Reds would be in first place rn with just an average pen, IMO. They’re obviously good enough to compete; it’s criminal that the FO does nothing while watching this crap on a nightly basis.

[REDREAD]

So is this an official game with the new rules?

If they don't finish the game tonight, they will resume tomorrow, finish it, then the regularly scheduled game will be 7 innings, which would really help the Reds.

[BluegrassRedleg]

Cincinnati, OH: The new rain forest

[Redsfan5]

It’s all over but the crying


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[Tom Servo]

I look like Captain Hindsight here but at the time I wouldn’t have taken Vlad out.
Result probably would have been about the same anyway might as well have used less pitchers.

[BluegrassRedleg]

While that was a tragedy, I was a kid living nearby and had a blast picking up all the softball size hail after that. We had a freezer full of them for awhile.

My grandfather was driving from Dayton to Wilmington that afternoon. Just narrowly missed it.

[Roy Tucker]

No, John Sadak. The hand of God touching down was what happened in Xenia in 1974.

I’d never seen a greenish-yellow sky before. One look at that told you it was going to be really bad.

[Griffey012]

When's the last time a team so thoroughly owned the Reds like the Padres have this season? At least the Reds won a game against SF and ARI this year.

Bullpen was overworked last night due to a similar start from Santillan. Not really any good choices here.

Yeah, I guess I have to backtrack on that. He was pretty stuck. Didn’t realize management helped him out by adding Goudeau to the mix. They really gotta pick up the shuttle speed in times like these. I know the options stink but dang.

Also, try a dang opener.

[Tony Cloninger]

Time to post in the Iglesias tracker thread. Dear Bob C you’ll never believe what happened to me during the season of 2021.

[TheBigLebowski]

If they don't finish the game tonight, they will resume tomorrow, finish it, then the regularly scheduled game will be 7 innings, which would really help the Reds.

Yeah. Gives us time to fix the bullpen.

[WrongVerb]

While that was a tragedy, I was a kid living nearby and had a blast picking up all the softball size hail after that. We had a freezer full of them for awhile.

All three hubbub about that tornado is what steered me into meteorology. I was not-quite-4 when it struck. Still have a distinct memory about that day too.

[Ironman92]

I foresee a move to the OF in Tatis' future -- probably in the next three years.

Probably so but shoulder injury has to affect his throwing and most errors have been on throws.

That Castellanos ball took a big hop and hit his outreached glove weirdly…..not sure many make that play and get Castellanos out. Gueeing 1/3 of SS don’t get to that ball….on other end once Castellanos reached not sure how many SS could’ve finished that DP with a throw like that.

He’s not Jose Iglesias or Andrelton Simmons but feel he can still play the position as years go on.

[Monster Man]

All three hubbub about that tornado is what steered me into meteorology. I was not-quite-4 when it struck. Still have a distinct memory about that day too.

I grew up in Xenia and watched the tornado from our basement window. It’s something that you’ll never forget.

[Tony Cloninger]

a team has beaten you 5 games in a row. you get up 4-0 on them.

and you still piss it away.

good times. would be great to follow a team with some grit.

or a good ownership group. ok, i'd take the latter for sure.



Only John Wayne had true grit.

[mhs95_06]

Don't wait around, come back and start at 4pm tomorrow, get another less than mediocre pitcher up from Louisville for the day, and see what happens with two less innings to cover in the full game tomorrow.

[DocRed]

This team stinks

[Big Klu]

Are we sure that this game gets suspended if it is not resumed? Everything I'm finding on the internet indicates that it is an official game.

https://www.mlb.com/glossary/rules/regulation-game

[REDREAD]

Yeah. Gives us time to fix the bullpen.

:) I was thinking it would be 2 less bullpen innings to cover tomorrow.
The 7 inning games really favor the Reds.. especially if the starter can go 6.

[Bruce Berenyi]

sometimes you get beat what profound words of wisdom might as well print that every day

[REDREAD]

Are we sure that this game gets suspended if it is not resumed? Everything I'm finding on the internet indicates that it is an official game.

https://www.mlb.com/glossary/rules/regulation-game

hmm.. maybe I'm wrong. I assumed they were all suspended now.

[Big Klu]

From MLB.com:

Prior to the 2020 season, if a game was terminated early due to weather before becoming official, the results up to the point of the termination did not count and the game was started over at a later date. But as part of MLB's health and safety protocols during the COVID-19 pandemic, all games cut short due to weather before becoming official were resumed at a later date, rather than started over from scratch, during the 2020 campaign.

The rules below remained in place.

If a regulation game is terminated early due to weather, the results are considered final if the home team is leading. If the home team is trailing, the results are considered final if the game is not in the midst of an inning when the visiting team has taken the lead.

https://www.mlb.com/glossary/rules/regulation-game

[jimbroznan]

If they don't finish the game tonight, they will resume tomorrow, finish it, then the regularly scheduled game will be 7 innings, which would really help the Reds.

A game is considered a regulation game -- also known as an "official game" -- once the visiting team has made 15 outs (five innings) and the home team is leading, or once the home team has made 15 outs regardless of score.
f a regulation game is terminated early due to weather, the results are considered final if the home team is leading. If the home team is trailing, the results are considered final if the game is not in the midst of an inning when the visiting team has taken the lead.

If a regulation game is terminated early due to weather and the game is either tied or in the midst of an inning in which the visiting team has taken the lead, it becomes a suspended game that will be completed at a later date from the point of termination.
https://www.mlb.com/glossary/rules/regulation-game

So they have played 5 innings it should be considered a final score.

[BluegrassRedleg]

I’d never seen a greenish-yellow sky before. One look at that told you it was going to be really bad.

Been through three of them now fairly close to where I lived. That's how it has looked every time. It's really eerie.

[Roy Tucker]

“For he who fights and runs away May live to fight another day; But he who is in battle slain Can never rise and fight again.“ — Oliver Goldsmith

[Redsfan6272]

Like to see some Reds fan bring in a sign "If you dont want to win Bob, Please sell, Reds fans are tired of waiting!"

[SomeCallMeTim]

When's the last time a team so thoroughly owned the Reds like the Padres have this season? At least the Reds won a game against SF and ARI this year.

Bullpen was overworked last night due to a similar start from Santillan. Not really any good choices here.

San Diego is asking the Reds:

Who’s your Padre?

[Coopdaddy67]

Like to see some Reds fan bring in a sign "If you dont want to win Bob, Please sell, Reds fans are tired of waiting!"

It would probably get taken away.

[BluegrassRedleg]

Braves with a 20 spot

[Roy Tucker]

It would probably get taken away.

Not probably. It would. Reds don’t tolerate that stuff.

[Ironman92]

Game will resume at 12:35

[NatiRedGals]

Just curious I wasn't watching should that inning have even started reds to seem the king of not stopping the game then blowing it and losing it also Perez still sucks

[texasdave]

For those who don't get to see the Reds on television that often, their game against the Brewers on Friday, July, 9th, will be on Youtube.

[PuffyPig]

Just curious I wasn't watching should that inning have even started reds to seem the king of not stopping the game then blowing it and losing it also Perez still sucks

It’s in the hands of the umpires once the game starts.


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[NatiRedGals]

It’s in the hands of the umpires once the game starts.


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Thanks puff just seems like this game shouldn't have even started

[mhs95_06]

Game will resume at 12:35

AM or PM?

[Ironman92]

AM or PM?

Yes

[VR]

Phone died and i missed the 5th. Curious question though. If Bell knew the rules, and also knew a massive weather front was imminent....why wouldn't he treat the 5th like the 9th?
Like I said, I wasn't following.....but from what I heard it did sound like everyone knew heavy rain was coming. Thanks.

[JFLegal]

Phone died and i missed the 5th. Curious question though. If Bell knew the rules, and also knew a massive weather front was imminent....why wouldn't he treat the 5th like the 9th?
Like I said, I wasn't following.....but from what I heard it did sound like everyone knew heavy rain was coming. Thanks.

because the rules have changed and games don't get called after 5 innings. have to play a full 9.

[NatiRedGals]

because the rules have changed and games don't get called after 5 innings. have to play a full 9.

Not true If a regulation game is terminated early due to weather, the results are considered final if the home team is leading. If the home team is trailing, the results are considered final if the game is not in the midst of an inning when the visiting team has taken the lead

[Griffey012]

Phone died and i missed the 5th. Curious question though. If Bell knew the rules, and also knew a massive weather front was imminent....why wouldn't he treat the 5th like the 9th?
Like I said, I wasn't following.....but from what I heard it did sound like everyone knew heavy rain was coming. Thanks.

They haven’t built the weather forecast into the algorithms that dictate Bell’s moves yet. I say this as someone who still plays baseball for fun and builds algorithms

[AG Slater]

They haven’t built the weather forecast into the algorithms that dictate Bell’s moves yet. I say this as someone who still plays baseball for fun and builds algorithms
Is the storm a righty or lefty?

[BluegrassRedleg]

Better name for Cincinnati in 2021: New Seattle or East Seattle?

[757690]

game called. Reds lose 7-5 :(

[Tom Servo]

game called. Reds lose 7-5 :(
https://uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/mourning-nod.gif

if they just hadn't given up a freakin grand slam...

[NatiRedGals]

Hahahahahahaha I can't cant believe bell didnt know the rules

[Griffey012]

Wait so why was this not suspended?

[NatiRedGals]

Wait so why was this not suspended?

Back to the old rules after 5 innings games over