7-3-21 Reds vs Cubs 4:10pm

[Ron Madden]

Reds
1. Jonathan India (R) 2B
2. Jesse Winker (L) LF
3. Nick Castellanos (R) RF
4. Joey Votto (L) 1B
5. Tyler Stephenson (R) C
6. Tyler Naquin (L) CF
7. Eugenio Suarez (R) 3B
8. Kyle Farmer (R) SS
9. Tyler Mahle (R) P

Cubs
1. Joc Pederson (L) LF
2. Kris Bryant (R) 3B
3. Javier Baez (R) SS
4. Anthony Rizzo (L) 1B
5. Willson Contreras (R) C
6. Jason Heyward (L) RF
7. Ian Happ (S) 2B
8. Rafael Ortega (L) CF
9. Adbert Alzolay (R) P

[NatiRedGals]

Lopez should have went 0-5 he would have stayed in the lineup

[JFLegal]

let's go. let's fly another W redlegs!

[KeefeCato]

Big win last night. Win today and win the series.

[KeefeCato]

Lopez should have went 0-5 he would have stayed in the lineup

Have you jumped off the Shogo should start and onto the Lopez should start train?
Why not just enjoy the games sometimes?

[Ron Madden]

Charlie Goldsmith @CharlieG__

This is the first time the Reds have used this batting order all year.
With Tyler Stephenson starting against a right-handed pitcher, he’s hitting between Votto and Naquin.

[NatiRedGals]

Have you jumped off the Shogo should start and onto the Lopez should start train?
Why not just enjoy the games sometimes?

Hard to enjoy games when your manager doesn't put the best product on the field were 8 games back and we still don't put the best product on the field it gets old quickly and you saying just enjoy the game is one of the big reasons nothing will ever change we have accepted mediocrity

[KeefeCato]

Looks like Tyler will get back to back starts in KC. Mon and Tues night games and KC as of now are throwing back to back LHP against the Reds.

[Tony Cloninger]

This team sucks and Bell is a clown. I’m watching a real team on you tube. The 1972 WS. Those guys never made a mistake and always came through when it counted.

[DocRed]

Naquin has really struggled as of late, 1 for his last 18...his bWAR is now 0.0. Why play him if he has an injured wrist on top of that? I'd prefer Akiyama or Aquino there. Aquino's career splits are even against LHP and RHP anyways.

[NatiRedGals]

Naquin has really struggled as of late, 1 for his last 18...his bWAR is now 0.0. I'd prefer Aquino or Akiyama there.
With a line like that he has earned his playing time

[KeefeCato]

Hard to enjoy games when your manager doesn't put the best product on the field were 8 games back and we still don't put the best product on the field it gets old quickly and you saying just enjoy the game is one of the big reasons nothing will ever change we have accepted mediocrity
We can't change a thing about the lineup. For the record I would like to see Lopez play more as well. But certainly not Shogo. I would rather see Aquino get more starts over Naquin. One thing for sure a lineup with both shogo and Lopez in it lacks power. And whether we like it or not todays MLB is a power league.
My comment about enjoying the games. I will root for whatever lineup is put on the field. Not saying you don't. Suarez makes money Suarez was good in 2019 and back. He is on pace for 32 HRs as bad as he has been. I have no doubt in my mind that if Lopez played everyday for 5 years he would not hit 32.
Shogo may never hit 5 his whole career. HRs aren't everything but a HR guarantees you score .

[KeefeCato]

This team sucks and Bell is a clown. I’m watching a real team on you tube. The 1972 WS. Those guys never made a mistake and always came through when it counted.

You must be talking about Oakland then. Seems to me I remember a intentional walk to Bench or at least he thought it was going to be but instead took strike three. Mistake.

[AG Slater]

Lopez over Suarez. Let's strike

[Ron Madden]

We can't change a thing about the lineup. For the record I would like to see Lopez play more as well. But certainly not Shogo. I would rather see Aquino get more starts over Naquin. One thing for sure a lineup with both shogo and Lopez in it lacks power. And whether we like it or not todays MLB is a power league.
My comment about enjoying the games. I will root for whatever lineup is put on the field. Not saying you don't. Suarez makes money Suarez was good in 2019 and back. He is on pace for 32 HRs as bad as he has been. I have no doubt in my mind that if Lopez played everyday for 5 years he would not hit 32.
Shogo may never hit 5 his whole career. HRs aren't everything but a HR guarantees you score .

Good luck trying to discuss today's game with this bunch.
See ya after the game Keefe, ain't about to hang out with drama queens

[RedTeamGo!]

Can’t imagine how demoralizing this is for a young player. Just absurd.

[757690]

Can’t imagine how demoralizing this is for a young player. Just absurd.

I imagine Lopez is flying high over being a MLB player right now, and is not nearly as concerned with his playing time as so many here on this board.

[Tony Cloninger]

You must be talking about Oakland then. Seems to me I remember a intentional walk to Bench or at least he thought it was going to be but instead took strike three. Mistake.


I was really being facetious. The 72-73 Reds were big chokers. Going into 1975 they were Buffalo Bills/Atlanta Braves of the early 90s choking type. I know they did not have Griffey/Foster of 75. They did though have an in prime Perez/Bench and just as good Rose/Morgan. But Morgan disappointed big time in 72. He swung at times like Manny Sanguillen. Meaning he had no patience. Rose was the same way. Just lost patience. Credit to the A’s pitchers sure. Even Perez with his 10 hits seem to wilt with risp. They lost to an A’s team without Reggie. And who was the scouting reporter for how to pitch to Gene Tenace? Then Tolan pulls a hammy running in center in game 7.

Don’t even want to get into 1973 series. They did get unlucky when Concepcion got hurt and were forced to start Chaney and Crosby.

This team may be frustrating at times but it’s a team I thought would win 77 games due to the lack of pitching anyways.
I don’t like Bell much. Another wannabe analytical based manager without looking at much else it seems. If someone higher up is telling him to play Suarez at this point OK. If not then he’s obtuse. Time to see with your eyes also that maybe Aquino and Shogo could be more productive then a struggling Naquin.

[RedTeamGo!]

I wish one of the beat writers would actually do their job and ask Bell “can you please explain to the fanbase why you’ve decided to bench a rookie 2 games in a row after collecting 4 hits in his first career start for one of the worst hitters in mlb?”

[NebraskaRed]

Can’t imagine how demoralizing this is for a young player. Just absurd.

I'm all for starting Lopez over Geno, but I don't really think that Lopez thought he was going to be called up and immediately start more games than a veteran player is.

If he did believe that, he was delusional.

[RedTeamGo!]

I'm all for starting Lopez over Geno, but I don't really think that Lopez thought he was going to be called up and immediately start more games than a veteran player is.

If he did believe that, he was delusional.

I’m moreso referring to the getting 4 hits in his first game and then immediately being benched for one of the worst players in MLB.

[NebraskaRed]

I’m moreso referring to the getting 4 hits in his first game and then immediately being benched for one of the worst players in MLB.

Right, I don't think that's demoralizing for him. He got called up and is being given a chance to show what we can do. He'll get other chances (hopefully a lot more).

[Tony Cloninger]

Good luck trying to discuss today's game with this bunch.
See ya after the game Keefe, ain't about to hang out with drama queens


I’m considered more the King of Theatre.

[Tony Cloninger]

Right, I don't think that's demoralizing for him. He got called up and is being given a chance to show what we can do. He'll get other chances (hopefully a lot more).

I don’t think so either. I do think that after the ASB if things don’t improve in a hurry you might do more sit downs of Suarez.

[Kc61]

I support Bell’s lineup today. If you expect them to exile Suarez to the bench, not happening. Reds have in investment in him, his defense has been good, he’s had some better at bats. He recently just sat two games so no complaints.

Lopez will get opportunities. I doubt he’s demoralized, he probably never expected to be in the bigs when season began. He knows he’ll have to earn a starting spot, if that’s in the cards.

I like giving Tyler Steve an extra start against a RHP. Naquin, ok for now, but bat needs to get going. Looking forward to another good game and a Reds win.

[elrojo]

Yes, for World Series winners watch the '75 and '76 teams.

[TheBigLebowski]

Naquin has really struggled as of late, 1 for his last 18...his bWAR is now 0.0. Why play him if he has an injured wrist on top of that? I'd prefer Akiyama or Aquino there. Aquino's career splits are even against LHP and RHP anyways.

I would start giving Shogo his days. I refuse to believe he’s as feckless with the bat as he seems to be. I don’t think he’s going to become Tony Gwynn, but I think they need to give him a long, extended try as a CF and #2 hitter.

Nick SenzIL burped after shotgunning a barq’s red creme last night and blew out his esophagus, so he’ll be out of the picture.

[Wonderful Monds]

Right, I don't think that's demoralizing for him. He got called up and is being given a chance to show what we can do. He'll get other chances (hopefully a lot more).

I’m less concerned about Lopez specifically, I think he’s most likely a good bench guy. But Geno isn’t earning his playing time at the moment, he’s sucked and hasn’t been able to get his average over the Mendoza line for a seasons worth of PAs now. He’s more than earned the chance to spend a series or so on the bench.

I think a smart manager rides the hot hand until they cool down at the very least, and for now Lopez is clearly that guy. He was tearing up AAA, he comes up and gets 4 hits, that should earn him at least more start before he hits the bench so Eugenio Kingman can start again.

I mean if I were running the team, this would be the perfect time to give Geno a phantom DL stint over the ASB to clear his head and try to get out of the funk of being a sub major league caliber player for the last 162 games, and ride Lopez’s hot bat for a week or two.

[Wonderful Monds]

I would start giving Shogo his days. I refuse to believe he’s as feckless with the bat as he seems to be. I don’t think he’s going to become Tony Gwynn, but I think they need to give him a long, extended try as a CF and #2 hitter.

Nick SenzIL burped after shotgunning a barq’s red creme last night and blew out his esophagus, so he’ll be out of the picture.

I swear to god I remember this happening but I’ve never been able to find anything about in googling. In the early 00s, one of the Reds relievers I believe it was, went on the DL after getting pecked in the face by an ostrich at a charity calendar photo shoot at the Cincinnati Zoo. I remember it being one of Scott Sullivan or Williamson iirc.


I’m surprised Senzel never suffered the same injury. And he’d probably disintegrate if he did.

[RiverfrontRed]

Will Suarez get to the Mendoza line by the end of the season??

[RiverfrontRed]

Have you jumped off the Shogo should start and onto the Lopez should start train?
Why not just enjoy the games sometimes?

I'm on the Farmer shouldn't start train.

[Alf_Red_E]

I'm on the Farmer shouldn't start train.

You act like he is blocking someone

[757690]

You act like he is blocking someone

Yeah, the crime is that Farmer is the best starting SS option on the roster, not that he is starting

[TheBigLebowski]

I swear to god I remember this happening but I’ve never been able to find anything about in googling. In the early 00s, one of the Reds relievers I believe it was, went on the DL after getting pecked in the face by an ostrich at a charity calendar photo shoot at the Cincinnati Zoo. I remember it being one of Scott Sullivan or Williamson iirc.

I’m almost certain that was Williamson. I vaguely recall the same thing.


I’m surprised Senzel never suffered the same injury. And he’d probably disintegrate if he did.

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I'm on the Farmer shouldn't start train.

Farmer has been fantastic. Appreciate that guy. Invaluable to a good roster design.

[TNRED]

Will Suarez get to the Mendoza line by the end of the season??
He isn't concerned with the Mendoza line. He is focused on establishing the "Suarez line "

[Moose Herd]

Reds are second in the NL in RS/ G, but reading the first three pages of this game thread and you’d never know it.

[JaxRed]

Alright Tyler, lets keep the ball in the park today. (and no walks)

[NebraskaRed]

Reds are second in the NL in RS/ G, but reading the first three pages of this game thread and you’d never know it.

It feels like there's the same level of negativity here now as there was in 2016 when they were 30-53 on this date.

[CaiGuy]

Reds are second in the NL in RS/ G, but reading the first three pages of this game thread and you’d never know it.

Yeah, though I don't want to be labeled as a mediocre Reds empathizer eigther so I will say...why so much stress about the lineup, and lineup order of all things, when it is the bottom of the pitching staff killing this team?

The negative energy should be directed to calling for some better pitching.

[DocRed]

Whiny ass Cubs...stop your crying, You got plenty of favorable calls last night!!

[JFLegal]

lol @ dumbarsed bryant for arguing that strike 3.

[Wonderful Monds]

I was confused watching some replays, looks like every team in the league or home team or something is wearing hats with the same color scheme that we’re wearing right now, I thought it was just some ugly July 4th Reds hat.

[DocRed]

bleh 4 pitch walk...why?

[JFLegal]

and then mahle walks the unwalkable baez.

[Tom Servo]

Walking Baez seems suboptimal when Rizzo is behind him and you’re Tyler Mahle, the man often burned by LH sluggers

[Wonderful Monds]

Not a fan of the crowd reaction to that single tbh

[Wonderful Monds]

As much as I hate the Cardinals and their corny ass fans, they will never come close to getting on my nerves nearly as much as the lovable loser Cubs bandwagon.

[Reds]

this inning is mahle in a nutshell. has a chance to get out of it with a 10 pitch inning now he's over 20

[Reds Fanatic]

That pitch was close but a walk and bases loaded

[DocRed]

Another terrible effing ump today...wonderful

[JFLegal]

that was a goddamn strike. jeezus.

[JaxRed]

Alright Tyler, lets keep the ball in the park today. (and no walks)

Ohhhh Tyler.....

[Tom Servo]

Tyler what’s the strategy here my man

[Wonderful Monds]

🗣️ Stop all the walking

[JFLegal]

Tyler what’s the strategy here my man

not have the ump go full simple jack?

[DocRed]

Oh joy...

[Reds Fanatic]

27 pitches already

[JFLegal]

idiot home plate ump

[Reds Fanatic]

Big K

[JFLegal]

mahle gets out of it though!

[NebraskaRed]

Thank you, Heyward

[Wonderful Monds]

:explode:

[DocRed]

LOL now that's the Heyward we love! Man that wasn't even close. You could tell he wanted to swing by how jittery he. was in the box.

[TheBigLebowski]

Phew. He lucked out. 28 pitches thrown.

[DocRed]

Only 28 pitches!!! Yay!!

[JaxRed]

Swung at a pitch that would have walked in a run.

[CaiGuy]

Love to see the packed out GABP, but I wish there was less ugly blue color in the stands.

[KeefeCato]

Mahle is now going to need a couple 10 pitch innings or be out after 4 or 5 innings.

[Tom Servo]

Don’t get why the ump gets the blame, Mahle has a lot of those types of innings. At some point he needs to force the issue and get a decision in the AB without throwing 8-10 pitches

[Wonderful Monds]

Ah yes the ol “walk the bases full and almost walk in a run too but then strike the last guy out on a full count” gambit, truly brilliant stuff there from Mahle

[Reds]

im so over mahle going 5 innings and throwing 100 pitches. he has the tools just doesn't have confidence and consistency.

[KeefeCato]

Don’t get why the ump gets the blame, Mahle has a lot of those types of innings. At some point he needs to force the issue and get a decision in the AB without throwing 8-10 pitches

That issue is what is keeping him from being a top 10 pitcher.

[TheBigLebowski]

Some good friends of mine are at this game.

We live in FL, so it’s a bit of a trip. Family full of Cubs fans and they’ve never been to Chicago.

[CaiGuy]

Don’t get why the ump gets the blame, Mahle has a lot of those types of innings. At some point he needs to force the issue and get a decision in the AB without throwing 8-10 pitches

Yeah, I get that pitching nos hard, but from a fan's perspective the pitching scared approach is tough to watch. Hate the nibbling. Just throw na strike, especially with the bases empty.

[CaiGuy]

Some good friends of mine are at this game.

We live in FL, so it’s a bit of a trip. Family full of Cubs fans and they’ve never been to Chicago.

You may need to rethink your taste in friends.

[JaxRed]

8 pitches.

[TheBigLebowski]

You may need to rethink your taste in friends.

Good people who jumped on the bandwagon of a rather poor team.

Even named their dogs “Wrigley” and “Dawson” (Andre - not Leery).

[Reds Fanatic]

Another K for Mahle

[DocRed]

Man Ortega....

[CaiGuy]

Stephenson is great, but this is why I don't mind them keeping Barnhart in the mix for now.

[Big Klu]

How is that a wild pitch? Passed ball, for sure. It hit right in the pocket of the mitt.

[mhs95_06]

The most critical free 90(3rd to home) precipitated by the big lead possible due to the shift!

[Kc61]

Stephenson is great, but this is why I don't mind them keeping Barnhart in the mix for now.

All these little defensive plays add up.

As do the great plays made by opponents, like in the Atlanta series.

[TheBigLebowski]

I find it a lot more worthwhile to judge the Reds scoring by the mode. Not the mean. They score runs in bunches, but if you score 30 in a game you get the same win you’d get by a 1-0 score. Their normal output is not overly fantastic.

[CaiGuy]

I find it a lot more worthwhile to judge the Reds scoring by the mode. Not the mean. They score runs in bunches, but if you score 30 in a game you get the same win you’d get by a 1-0 score. Their normal output is not overly fantastic.

My guess is that all teams score runs in bunches and get shutout at times (just the typical ups and downs of the game), but I haved researched this.

[Moose Herd]

I find it a lot more worthwhile to judge the Reds scoring by the mode. Not the mean. They score runs in bunches, but if you score 30 in a game you get the same win you’d get by a 1-0 score. Their normal output is not overly fantastic.

Ok, you’ve made an assumption, why not go look at all 30 teams and rank where the Reds really rank.

[mhs95_06]

I find it a lot more worthwhile to judge the Reds scoring by the mode. Not the mean. They score runs in bunches, but if you score 30 in a game you get the same win you’d get by a 1-0 score. Their normal output is not overly fantastic.

How close is the median to the mode in judging worthily?

[Red Raindog]

Will Suarez get to the Mendoza line by the end of the season??

My Magic 8 Ball says

Not a chance


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[NatiRedGals]

June 24th was the last time naquin had a hit sheesh

[TheBigLebowski]

My guess is that all teams score runs in bunches and get shutout at times (just the typical ups and downs of the game), but I haved researched this.

Proximity bias, maybe. It just seems that there is a big disparity from their avg runs per game and the most frequent output

[NebraskaRed]

June 24th was the last time naquin had a hit sheesh

Him and Winker slumping at the same time is really hurting.

[TheBigLebowski]

Ok, you’ve made an assumption, why not go look at all 30 teams and rank where the Reds really rank.

Did you read what I wrote or did the weird words confuse you?

[Wonderful Monds]

I still don’t fully trust Mahle to be honest

[mhs95_06]

Middle, middle fastball doesn't work to Bryant!

[NatiRedGals]

Him and Winker slumping at the same time is really hurting.

True 1 for 18 naquin 4 for 20 winker

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Gonna say it im higher on winker then naquin

[TheBigLebowski]

How close is the median to the mode in judging worthily?

Avg/mean is just the sum of all runs scored and dividing by games played.

Mode is the value that has the most frequent occurrence.

Neither are perfect but my opinion is the mean/avg doesn’t correctly capture an accurate, reliable result.

[JaxRed]

Alright Tyler, lets keep the ball in the park today. (and no walks)

Oh, Tyler.....

[Moose Herd]

Proximity bias, maybe. It just seems that there is a big disparity from their avg runs per game and the most frequent output

A quick look at the last 20 games has them scoring 5+ runs in 11 of 20. Seems pretty good.

[NebraskaRed]

Sadak, I'm not sure that "click moment" is going to happen before Mahle is out of the game.

[TheBigLebowski]

A quick look at the last 20 games has them scoring 5+ runs in 11 of 20. Seems pretty good.

And that’s a sample within a sample.

I’m not dying on this hill. It was just a brief observation. I wouldn’t be shocked to find out I was wrong.

[mhs95_06]

The 1st time all-star went lackadaisical on defense and gave up a double. If Wink thought he'd be trying for 2nd he would have spun the other direction to throw.

[CaiGuy]

And that’s a sample within a sample.

I’m not dying on this hill. It was just a brief observation. I wouldn’t be shocked to find out I was wrong.

I don't know eigther, that was just my unscientific guess as a counterpoint as well.

[texasdave]

Sneaking Mahle through the alley.

[SomeCallMeTim]

Sadak, I'm not sure that "click moment" is going to happen before Mahle is out of the game.

Yeah, the only click was the sound of the ball off of Bryant bat…

[Kc61]

Most teams probably feast off the weaker pitchers and produce runs in a “lumpy” fashion.

But Reds have a top OPS, especially at home, considering the current state of hitting in MLB.

The issues are heavily on the run prevention side.

[Moose Herd]

And that’s a sample within a sample.

I’m not dying on this hill. It was just a brief observation. I wouldn’t be shocked to find out I was wrong.

In other words you wanted to knock the offense, while knowing they are second in the league in scoring and was hoping nobody would actually call you on it. Cool.

[TheBigLebowski]

I’m a Farmer guy, but that AB was horrifying.

[NebraskaRed]

He hasn't walked a batter because everyone is hacking away.

[TheBigLebowski]

In other words you wanted to knock the offense, while knowing they are second in the league in scoring and was hoping nobody would actually call you on it. Cool.

If I want to knock the offense I don’t need to trojan-horse it into a discussion.

I do feel the offense is extremely inconsistent and not the 2nd best in the league. Just an observation.

Now go back to your corner and keep to yourself. If I want your opinion on anything I’ll beat it out of you.

[NebraskaRed]

"What is Mahle's best pitch so far this game?"

"I don't think he's found it yet"

[VR]

I wonder if Mahle has just become K happy in the bigs. He's at the bottom of the league for P/IP. He's striking out 1.6/9 more batters than he did in the minors. He's also walking 1+ more per 9. Just seems to waste too many pitches trying to set up the K.

[SomeCallMeTim]

"What is Mahle's best pitch so far this game?"

"I don't think he's found it yet"

What is the average air speed of an unladen African swallow, Chris?

What is the meaning of life Barry?

[NebraskaRed]

What in the world was Castellanos swinging at there?

[Moose Herd]

If I want to knock the offense I don’t need to trojan-horse it into a discussion.

I do feel the offense is extremely inconsistent and not the 2nd best in the league. Just an observation.

Now go back to your corner and keep to yourself. If I want your opinion on anything I’ll beat it out of you.

They’ve scored 5+ runs/game in 48% of their games. Seems pretty consistent

[NebraskaRed]

VOTTO!

[Reds Fanatic]

Votto homers!

[JaxRed]

What in the world was Castellanos swinging at there?

If there was a guy on 1st, it might have been a pitchout.

[Stray]

Votto!

[mhs95_06]

I wonder if Mahle has just become K happy in the bigs. He's at the bottom of the league for P/IP. He's striking out 1.6/9 more batters than he did in the minors. He's also walking 1+ more per 9. Just seems to waste too many pitches trying to set up the K.

I'm thinking Mahle is getting a lot more of his pitches fouled off in the majors, compared to the minors.

[TheBigLebowski]

I didn’t think he got enough of that, but he certainly did

[Red Raindog]

What is the average air speed of an unladen African swallow, Chris?

What is the meaning of life Barry?

42 (for both questions)

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[KeefeCato]

NOT ELITE hits a BOMB 2-1

[Larkin Fan]

This Votto guy is pretty good.

[NebraskaRed]

Every Red not named Votto has no idea what to do with this pitcher.

[TheBigLebowski]

They’ve scored 5+ runs/game in 48% of their games. Seems pretty consistent

Checked bball reference.

In 81 games they’ve scored 2 or less 25 times.

I’ll assume your stat is correct about 5+.

It’s a disparity. Is it an outlier or in step with the rest of the league? I don’t know.

Wasn’t trying to start a war over this.

[Big Klu]

Updated Reds HR list (players in italics are active):

Reds 100-Home Run Club
1. Johnny Bench - 389
2. Frank Robinson - 324
3. Joey Votto - 306
4. Tony Pérez - 287
5. Adam Dunn - 270
6. Ted Kluszewski - 251
7. George Foster - 244
8. Jay Bruce - 233
9. Ken Griffey, Jr. - 210
10. Eric Davis - 203
11. Barry Larkin - 198
12. Brandon Phillips - 191
13. Vada Pinson - 186
14. Eugenio Suárez - 174
15. Wally Post - 172
16. Gus Bell - 160
17. Joe Morgan - 152
17. Pete Rose - 152
19. Lee May - 147
20. Dan Driessen - 133
21. Reggie Sanders - 125
22. Ernie Lombardi - 120
23. Sean Casey - 118
24. Frank McCormick - 110
25. Todd Frazier - 108
26. Dave Parker - 107
27. Chris Sabo - 104
28. Dave Concepción - 101

[NC Reds]

Bryant just got Farmed.

[Big Klu]

Bryant just got Farmed.

Plays a pretty good SS for a catcher.

[757690]

Even if the Reds lose this game, embarrassing Bryant by throwing him out on that play has made this game a victory for me.

[SomeCallMeTim]

Even if the Reds lose this game, embarrassing Bryant by throwing him out on that play has made this game a victory for me.

Are we sure Heineman isn’t available to PH today?

[Moose Herd]

Checked bball reference.

In 81 games they’ve scored 2 or less 25 times.

I’ll assume your stat is correct about 5+.

It’s a disparity. Is it an outlier or in step with the rest of the league? I don’t know.

Wasn’t trying to start a war over this.

Dodgers have scored 2 or less 22 times and scored 5+ 52% of the time. Not a bad difference really.

Not a war, but you made me curious.

[VR]

I'm thinking Mahle is getting a lot more of his pitches fouled off in the majors, compared to the minors.

He's at league average for FB%.....so don't think so.

[TheBigLebowski]

Dodgers have scored 2 or less 22 times and scored 5+ 52% of the time. Not a bad difference really.

Not a war, but you made me curious.

Exploring the question isn’t incendiary. I do want to know.

I can already tell, just on surface analysis, I was somewhat wrong.

[VR]

He's at league average for FB%.....so don't think so.

And for that to be the cause...batters would need to be fouling off at least 18 more 2 strike pitches than they did against him in the minors.

[SomeCallMeTim]

102 pitches thru 5.

Mahle is the anti-Miley.

[NC Reds]

Time to string some hits together.

[TheBigLebowski]

5 IP, 2 ER is not awful on a day he clearly didn’t have the good stuff.

Shows maturation as a P.

[JaxRed]

Doolittle....... I'd have rather seen Perez first. You can tell Bell doesn't have faith that he's a different pitcher since he came back.

[VR]

5 IP, 2 ER is not awful on a day he clearly didn’t have the good stuff.

Shows maturation as a P.

Only 1 earned. Would rather have 7 innings and only 4k's. Oh well....he continues to be on the edge of being dominant....but gotta get late into games to be that.

[NebraskaRed]

Tie game

[Banshee]

Welcome back Tyler!

[Red Raindog]

That was a big fly Mr. Naquin…..


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[TheBigLebowski]

Touch em all tyler

[Larkin Fan]

That ball got out of the park fast!

[757690]

It’s a 4 inning game now.

[KeefeCato]

Glad Naquin is in the lineup over Shogo. Shogo couldn't hit one that far if he hit it twice.

[NebraskaRed]

Sadak, come on man haha

[TheBigLebowski]

Only 1 earned. Would rather have 7 innings and only 4k's. Oh well....he continues to be on the edge of being dominant....but gotta get late into games to be that.

Oh, 1 was unearned? Didn’t see that.

[Larkin Fan]

I have never seen somebody get as excited about fly balls as Sadak does.

[757690]

Really thought Suarez took the lead with that one. Just missed it.

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Sadak, come on man haha

I thought it was gone and it was a few feet from the wall. Can’t blame Sadak on that one.

[Kc61]

Really thought Suarez took the lead with that one. Just missed it.

Not surprised someone thought that - the TV call for Suarez’ fly out was rather excited.

[VR]

Oh, 1 was unearned? Didn’t see that.

They changed the WP to a PB.

[Moose Herd]

I have never seen somebody get as excited about fly balls as Sadak does.

Tommy Thrall thought it might be gone too.

[NebraskaRed]

I thought it was gone and it was a few feet from the wall. Can’t blame Sadak on that one.

I feel comfortable blaming him for anything.

[VR]

Mahle. 5 IP. 102 pitches.

Alzolay. 5 IP. 54 pitches.

[TheBigLebowski]

Mahle. 5 IP. 102 pitches.

Alzolay. 5 IP. 54 pitches.

That’s a stat. Wow

If Mahle can become pitch-efficient he’s going to have a wonderful career.

[TheBigLebowski]

Doolittle.

Someone hold me.

[VR]

Doolittle.

Someone hold me.

Doolittle ERA with bases empty.....2.53
Doolittle ERA with runners on......A LOT

[TheBigLebowski]

The bullpen has been the star of this series thus far. Baseball is strange.

[DocRed]

Votto OPS now .814. With a hot week and a half could he get an AS at large spot? Probably not but fun to think about..

[JaxRed]

Two biggest holes in Reds offense are SS and CF. I know we can't afford him, but Bryant would look good in CF. (Ducks)

[Big Klu]

Sadak, come on man haha
I'm wondering if Sadak might be looking at the monitor when he's making his calls, because a lot of the time the cameraman seems to be fooled as well -- focusing halfway up the bleachers when the ball is only hit to the warning track.

[Alf_Red_E]

how does Winker get robbed by a short RF? I didn't get that one

[Wonderful Monds]

Jesse Stinker

[Alf_Red_E]

Jesse Stinker

very soon the complaints about his playing time will start

[TheBigLebowski]

Winker and Castellanos look outmatched today.

I think Jesse caught the home run fever Sanchez is plagued with.

[DocRed]

DooLittle a second inning? Alright well now you are really tempting fate...

[NebraskaRed]

I don't know what good it would do, but I bet Winker gets the day off tomorrow.

[DocRed]

Winker and Castellanos look outmatched today.

I think Jesse caught the home run fever Sanchez is plagued with.

Sanchez hit 2 balls really hard today.

[757690]

DooLittle a second inning? Alright well now you are really tempting fate...

Probably just in to face the lefty that leads off

[DocRed]

Wow awful defensive play by Doolittle and Votto

[757690]

Joey should have taken that one himself because Doolittle was late to the bag

[TheBigLebowski]

Can’t blow easy outs with that tomfoolery

[Moose Herd]

You know you’re having a good year when you have an OPS of 892 over the last week and it’s considered a “slump”

[Wonderful Monds]

Little league brain play there

[SomeCallMeTim]

Probably just in to face the lefty that leads off

That was unfortunate…

[JaxRed]

I'm not a big Doolittle fan but he was throwing the ball well. Not sure I'd have made that switch.

[DocRed]

Welp so much for that.....3 run HR coming up!

[mhs95_06]

I agree with Welsh, Votto should have gotten Doolittle the ball earlier so he didn't have to find the ball above his head with the glove at the same time he was trying to find the base with his foot. Lefty pitchers have a much harder time getting to the bag earlier.

[Coopdaddy67]

I'm not a big Doolittle fan but he was throwing the ball well. Not sure I'd have made that switch.

He almost surely wasn't going to be able to finish the inning given his pitch count, so it made sense.

Of course then Bryant flips one into RF. Yuck.

[Wonderful Monds]

Little league brain play there

And of course that guy is standing at 3rd now

[TheBigLebowski]

Not looking good

[757690]

Best hope is to get out of this one run down, then score big in the last 3 innings.

[TheBigLebowski]

That works

Now get the phillips and we’re golden

[Wonderful Monds]

These idiots know “Javy” isn’t at bat anymore right

[Coopdaddy67]

I agree with Welsh, Votto should have gotten Doolittle the ball earlier so he didn't have to find the ball above his head with the glove at the same time he was trying to find the base with his foot. Lefty pitchers have a much harder time getting to the bag earlier.

I think the problem was that Doolittle was trying to look at Votto and the bag at the same time. He took his eyes off Votto as he was racing to the bag too.

It was a tough play regardless.

[Big Klu]

3-6-yessiree-3!

[DocRed]

Wow! Nice play by Joey...damn Rizzo is slow

[TheBigLebowski]

That works

Now get the phillips and we’re golden

They should do what I say more often

[757690]

Best hope is to get out of this one run down, then score big in the last 3 innings.

Or that.

[Mitri]

Nice play Joseph!

[Moose Herd]

Best hope is to get out of this one run down, then score big in the last 3 innings.

That wasn’t the best hope.

[Wonderful Monds]

Hell yeah that makes up for that fartbrained play a few batters ago

[RedsBaron]

I was really being facetious. The 72-73 Reds were big chokers. Going into 1975 they were Buffalo Bills/Atlanta Braves of the early 90s choking type. I know they did not have Griffey/Foster of 75. They did though have an in prime Perez/Bench and just as good Rose/Morgan. But Morgan disappointed big time in 72. He swung at times like Manny Sanguillen. Meaning he had no patience. Rose was the same way. Just lost patience. Credit to the A’s pitchers sure. Even Perez with his 10 hits seem to wilt with risp. They lost to an A’s team without Reggie. And who was the scouting reporter for how to pitch to Gene Tenace? Then Tolan pulls a hammy running in center in game 7.

Don’t even want to get into 1973 series. They did get unlucky when Concepcion got hurt and were forced to start Chaney and Crosby.



The 1972 and 1973 didn't win it all but calling them chokers is a bit much. The '72 BRM rallied to defeat a Pirates team in the NLCS. Pittsburgh was the defending world champions and may have been even better in 1972 than they were in 1971. Yes, the Reds lost the World Series to the A's but Oakland was hardly a pushover-those A's won three straight World Series. As for 1973 the Reds rallied from what, 10 1/2 games behind LA, to win the NL West over the Dodgers before having the misfortune to face a terrific Mets pitching staff amidst rioting "fans" in NYC. I was bitterly disappointed in both 1972 and 1973, but some of those Reds players you called chokers were clutch, as Rose, Perez, Morgan and Bench all proved in 1975 and 1976.

[KeefeCato]

Come on O gets some runs. Shut them idiot Cub fans up.

[Stray]

That's a really nice defensive play by Votto. Got that to 2nd quick.

[SomeCallMeTim]

Well that was a pleasant surprise.

Let’s win this.

Well look who’s up…..!!!

[757690]

Old Abner has done it again.

[Moose Herd]

TyDouble

[TheBigLebowski]

whooo

[Stray]

here we go!

[DocRed]

So who can still go today? Cionel, Osich and Hembree? Would Bell allow AG, Warren or Brach go 3 days in row?

[Wonderful Monds]

Let’s go Stephen Tylerson!

[KeefeCato]

Lets GO get these guys in.

[Alf_Red_E]

Come on O gets some runs. Shut them idiot Cub fans up.

Seek and ye shall find... Ask and it will be answered

[JaxRed]

And Joey actually looks at the 3b coach as he runs to third. (So many look back and slow themselves down)

[SomeCallMeTim]

Where do I get my Ty Steph fan club card?

[Mitri]

Tyler is a beast.

[Wonderful Monds]

Whew man that’s a rough lineup of hitters after Stephenson

[DocRed]

Think Ross is making a bonehead move allowing Alzolay to still pitch with a full pen of his best arms rested

[Wonderful Monds]

Prove me wrong, Eugenio “the human windmill” Suarez

[Mitri]

Geno Snorez! Bout time haha

[JaxRed]

No I would not go on contact with Joey on third.

[Coopdaddy67]

Prove me wrong, Eugenio “the human windmill” Suarez

He did.

[KeefeCato]

GENO

[DocRed]

How does Typer not score there?

[Alf_Red_E]

Aye Eee Aye Eee Oh

and sometimes Y

[Moose Herd]

How does Typer not score there?

He’s big boned

[Wonderful Monds]

How does Typer not score there?

Too busy with the keyboardin’

[KeefeCato]

How does Typer not score there?

He was busy typing.

[SomeCallMeTim]

Prove me wrong, Eugenio “the human windmill” Suarez

He did! He did!!!!

Shocked me…

[Wonderful Monds]

Yeah I would’ve pinch hit with Lopez for Farmer and then pinch hit for the pitcher there with Aquino or whatever, that would’ve actually been going for the throat.

[Coopdaddy67]

How does Typer not score there?

He wasn't going to run on Heyward anyway.

[DocRed]

Suarez has hit the ball hard in all 3 AB's.

[SomeCallMeTim]

How does Typer not score there?

Probably had to make sure it wasn’t caught. It did carry a bit…

[Alf_Red_E]

very important to throw strikes here

[DocRed]

Contreras loafing it...

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Ugh...I'd leave Hendrix in.

[Alf_Red_E]

12 freaking pitches??? No wonder the pen is burned up...

Tinkers got tink

[DocRed]

Heyward is a leftie but Happ and Ortega are both switch hitters. So what's the point??

[KeefeCato]

Contreras loafing it...

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Ugh...I'd leave Hendrix in.

Same here. If they are going good leave them in. I would have went Perez over Osich as well. Perez has a strike out pitch.

[Big Klu]

No I would not go on contact with Joey on third.

The contact play makes sense if runners are on 2nd and 3rd. If Suarez had hit a grounder and Votto had gone on contact and was thrown out at the plate, the Reds would still have a runner at 3rd as Stephenson would have advanced.

[Alf_Red_E]

Heyward is a leftie but Happ and Ortega are both switch hitters. So what's the point??

It's not like he was struggling... could have at least waited for him to allow a hit

[DocRed]

And now Osich must face 3 RHB...career .886 OPS with RHB. Joy...

[Alf_Red_E]

dammit throw strikes

[KeefeCato]

And now Osich must face 3 RHB...

Hopefully just two.

[Wonderful Monds]

I don’t think leaving in Hendrix in was the answer because he sucks, but uh, yeah now Osich is facing three RHHs

[Coopdaddy67]

Heyward is a leftie but Happ and Ortega are both switch hitters. So what's the point??

Happ has significantly more power from the left side.

Ortega is a lefty.

[DocRed]

Happ is worse from the right....so

[Red Raindog]

Same here. If they are going good leave them in. I would have went Perez over Osich as well. Perez has a strike out pitch.

Osich found one

Thankfully


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[TheBigLebowski]

Osich looks like he’s been in a donnybrook or two behind a bowling alley.

[Kc61]

Osich isn an experienced guy, he’s not going to choke in this spot.

Throws grounders. But the trade off his he doesn’t miss many bats. Glad he got the strikeout for the second out.

[M2]

It's not like he was struggling... could have at least waited for him to allow a hit

I'd rather have the Reds bringing in relievers with the bases empty.

[Wonderful Monds]

The three batter minimum rule would make a guy like Pat Venditte super valuable, if he didn’t suck that is

[Stray]

3 more outs to go. Lets get some insurance to make them less stressful.

[TheBigLebowski]

OSICH is amazing

[Red Raindog]

My shocked face is on right now


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[VR]

More dead cat bounce from Osich. Let's enjoy it.....because he will crash hard back to earth.

[Wonderful Monds]

What’re you chirping for, Happ

[SomeCallMeTim]

My shocked face is on right now


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[Kc61]

Osich may have avoided a trip to AAA with that outing.

With Hoffman coming up soon.