7-18-21 Reds vs Brewers 1:10 pm

[Ron Madden]

Reds
1. Jonathan India (R) 2B
2. Jesse Winker (L) LF
3. Joey Votto (L) 1B
4. Tyler Naquin (L) RF
5. Eugenio Suarez (R) 3B
6. Tucker Barnhart (L) C
7. Shogo Akiyama (L) CF
8. Mike Freeman (L) SS
9. Sonny Gray (R) P


Brewers
1. Jace Peterson (L) 2B
2. Luis Urias (R) 3B
3. Christian Yelich (L) LF
4. Willy Adames (R) SS
5. Rowdy Tellez (L) 1B
6. Tyrone Taylor (R) RF
7. Jackie Bradley Jr. (L) CF
8. Manny Pina (R) C
9. Corbin Burnes (R) P

[KeefeCato]

really need this one.

[WrongVerb]

Freeman's starting!

[goreds2]

Would have liked to have seen Suarez in the number 7 slot so we could stack the left handed hitters.

[TheBigLebowski]

I think I read that Lorenzen hurt his hamstring last night. Is that really true?

[Flyer Guy]

When do the Reds retaliate for the Brewers taking our MVP out of the series?

[WrongVerb]

I think I read that Lorenzen hurt his hamstring last night. Is that really true?

It's just like trading for a reliever!

[KeefeCato]

In my 47 years of following this team. This season has been one of the most enjoyable. This team has fought and entertained us from day 1. Despite the injuries and bullpen warts they are still in the race.
At the start of the season on July 18 if anyone had told you they would be 4 games over .500 and 6 games out of first. I think everyone would have said sign me up for that.

[Ron Madden]

There was a time that I looked forward to participating in game threads. Now there's no way I can do that and enjoy the game at the same time.

I can take it when the opinions of others differ from my own.

I just can't enjoy a game thread where some declare the game is over the very moment the Reds fall behind, constantly post things that aren't true and spew hate.

There's going to be failure, it's part of the game. It isn't easy to play major league baseball, these players are trying to do everything they can to succeed.

Sure, every now and then a player needs to be DFA'd but there's no reason to say he's a clown, garbage, trash, a scrub, or a mental midget!

Now I just post the lineups and come back in the 9th inning or after the game. I'd probably get banned from RZ for cussing a guy out if I hung around while he's posting his nonsense. Hope the home team wins, and hope everyone enjoys the game.

[AG Slater]

Such a weak lineup. 2 decent hitters one of which is struggling. What pitcher would be afraid of Votto, Naquin, Suarez in the middle of the lineup?

[TheBigLebowski]

Such a weak lineup. 2 decent hitters one of which is struggling. What pitcher would be afraid of Votto, Naquin, Suarez in the middle of the lineup?

I pitched a bit at the JUCO level. I wouldn’t be excited to see them. But I wasn’t that good.

[KeefeCato]

There was a time that I looked forward to participating in game threads. Now there's no way I can do that and enjoy the game at the same time.

I can take it when the opinions of others differ from my own.

I just can't enjoy a game thread where some declare the game is over the very moment the Reds fall behind, constantly post things that aren't true and spew hate.

There's going to be failure, it's part of the game. It isn't easy to play major league baseball, these players are trying to do everything they can to succeed.

Sure, every now and then a player needs to be DFA'd but there's no reason to say he's a clown, garbage, trash, a scrub, or a mental midget!

Now I just post the lineups and come back in the 9th inning or after the game. I'd probably get banned from RZ for cussing a guy out if I hung around while he's posting his nonsense. Hope the home team wins, and hope everyone enjoys the game.

It has got really bad. I have several blocked but that doesn't really do much good. When someone responds to there comments then there posts can been seen. I still think if everyone ignored them and stopped responding they would go away in time. They do it for look at me attention. It really does ruin things for the folks who like to participate and root on the team with fellow Reds fans.

[KeefeCato]

Lopez optioned to AAA for Gray off the IL.

[JaxRed]

There was a time that I looked forward to participating in game threads. Now there's no way I can do that and enjoy the game at the same time.

I can take it when the opinions of others differ from my own.

I just can't enjoy a game thread where some declare the game is over the very moment the Reds fall behind, constantly post things that aren't true and spew hate.

There's going to be failure, it's part of the game. It isn't easy to play major league baseball, these players are trying to do everything they can to succeed.

Sure, every now and then a player needs to be DFA'd but there's no reason to say he's a clown, garbage, trash, a scrub, or a mental midget!

Now I just post the lineups and come back in the 9th inning or after the game. I'd probably get banned from RZ for cussing a guy out if I hung around while he's posting his nonsense. Hope the home team wins, and hope everyone enjoys the game.

I'll be posting all by myself here.... https://redsintelligence.com/smforum/index.php?topic=22.0

Feel free to join. If you are not one of the problems

[membengal]

There was a time that I looked forward to participating in game threads. Now there's no way I can do that and enjoy the game at the same time.

I can take it when the opinions of others differ from my own.

I just can't enjoy a game thread where some declare the game is over the very moment the Reds fall behind, constantly post things that aren't true and spew hate.

There's going to be failure, it's part of the game. It isn't easy to play major league baseball, these players are trying to do everything they can to succeed.

Sure, every now and then a player needs to be DFA'd but there's no reason to say he's a clown, garbage, trash, a scrub, or a mental midget!

Now I just post the lineups and come back in the 9th inning or after the game. I'd probably get banned from RZ for cussing a guy out if I hung around while he's posting his nonsense. Hope the home team wins, and hope everyone enjoys the game.

It's not just you, Ron. This speaks for me as well.

[AG Slater]

It has got really bad. I have several blocked but that doesn't really do much good. When someone responds to there comments then there posts can been seen. I still think if everyone ignored them and stopped responding they would go away in time. They do it for look at me attention. It really does ruin things for the folks who like to participate and root on the team with fellow Reds fans.

We get it everyone is blocked. You just post to talk to yourself. Votto isn't good

[AG Slater]

17456

[NebraskaRed]

17457

[KeefeCato]

17457

Does it seem weird watching the game at 10 am your time?

[NebraskaRed]

Does it seem weird watching the game at 10 am your time?

Always

[Wonderful Monds]

We get it everyone is blocked. You just post to talk to yourself. Votto isn't good

At what point does this start becoming excessive player criticism, this stuff is genuinely starting to ruin the game threads

[RichRed]

Sonny, yesterday my life was filled with rain
Sonny, you smiled at me and really eased the pain
Now the dark days are done, and the bright days are here
My Sonny one shines so sincere
Sonny one so true, I love you

[NebraskaRed]

Jace Peterson, MVP candidate, apparently

[KeefeCato]

Man I wish the Reds had a running game.

[RichRed]

Let’s get a bunch of hits and runs while keeping the other team from doing same. Win, Reds!

[traderumor]

Uraias will not have a hit for a week after this series.

[NebraskaRed]

Willy Adames/Willie Aames.

Think about it.

[HammerTime]

It has got really bad. I have several blocked but that doesn't really do much good. When someone responds to there comments then there posts can been seen. I still think if everyone ignored them and stopped responding they would go away in time. They do it for look at me attention. It really does ruin things for the folks who like to participate and root on the team with fellow Reds fans.

While I guess technically not breaking any rules it’s 100% ruining the threads and they should ban their IP address. Just simply miserable trolls.

[mhs95_06]

Good play by Sonny, but on the first pinch I'd like to see them concentrate on tagging the guy coming 1st to 3rd!

[NebraskaRed]

Not good.

[757690]

Not so Sunny in Cincinnati so far this inning.

[HammerTime]

Hunker down and limit the damage. Lot of innings left.

[757690]

Téllez was the perfect K or DP candidate. Hitting him there was a huge mistake

[AG Slater]

Get the brooms out

[Boss-Hog]

At what point does this start becoming excessive player criticism, this stuff is genuinely starting to ruin the game threadsWe've given one of the folks a temporary vacation and the other frequent offenders aren't far behind if it continues.

[mhs95_06]

The hazards of pitching around a guy to load the bases. Rowdy stuck his elbow guard into the pitch to get the run. Need a rule that if the ball hits you on a protective device when you did not try to move away from the pitch, it is dead and just a ball.

[Alf_Red_E]

At the game last night, my step son said "they look like cub scouts"...

yeah, I guess they do.

[NebraskaRed]

I like Larkin, but it does make me laugh when he says the most obvious things:

"What you wanna do here is limit the damage"

[dakota42]

Good job limiting the damage.

[HammerTime]

Great bounce back.

[Alf_Red_E]

The hazards of pitching around a guy to load the bases. Rowdy stuck his elbow guard into the pitch to get the run. Need a rule that if the ball hits you on a protective device when you did not try to move away from the pitch, it is dead and just a ball.

There already is a rule that you have to try to get out of the way.

[Coopdaddy67]

Great job getting out of the inning.

Gray had to waste a lot of energy in the 1st though, which was less than ideal.

[Alf_Red_E]

I like Larkin, but it does make me laugh when he says the most obvious things:

"What you wanna do here is limit the damage"

SOMEONE should tell Larkin that if the side of the ball 'is on the black' of the strike zone, it's NOT a gift strike

[NebraskaRed]

Mike Freeman hits a home run today.

My predictions are never wrong (they're always wrong).

[Alf_Red_E]

Mike Freeman hits a home run today.

My predictions are never wrong (they're always wrong).

I don't regret a single day of my first marriage... I regret all of them

[coryfly]

Tough inning but at least he only allowed the one run. If he settles down then things should be fine until the bullpen shows up.

Scoring a bunch of runs is probably the key to salvaging something in this series.

[mhs95_06]

Burnes figured if India swung at ball 4 on the 3-1 count, he would do the same on the 3-2, but he didn't! Lead-off man on.

[coryfly]

That was awful. Ball was too low to even be considered a strike.

[NebraskaRed]

How in the world was that a strike

[HammerTime]

I’d like to see India run a bit more.

[Alf_Red_E]

Tough inning but at least he only allowed the one run. If he settles down then things should be fine until the bullpen shows up.

Scoring a bunch of runs is probably the key to salvaging something in this series.

Or just score more than the other team... I think that's a sound strategy... I'm definitely PRO-Runs

[mhs95_06]

Ump gives a strike to Burnes on the 1-0 on a low one, forcing Winker to swing at the next one putting him in an unwarranted 1-2 count, then ultimately Ks him unjustly.

[coryfly]

Winker swinging for the fences with two strikes.

[Alf_Red_E]

Jesse with his circa 2019 5 run bomb swing

[dakota42]

Jesse really having a rough time right now.

[NebraskaRed]

Jeff Passan
@JeffPassan

The Mets are down 6-0 in the first. Luis Rojas has been ejected. They are on the verge of being swept by the Pirates.

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Senzel and Blandino will come off the IL by the time Burnes throws 3 more pitches.

[mhs95_06]

SOMEONE should tell Larkin that if the side of the ball 'is on the black' of the strike zone, it's NOT a gift strike

The black is not in the box. The white is 17" across and the black does not count as part of the plate. It is just for illustrative purposes!

[TheBigLebowski]

Winker: 1-14 last week, .172 over the last month, 2 HR.

I really thought he’d progressed past these extended dry spells. Everyone will slump from time to time, but he’s been worse than Suarez over the last month.

Nearly impossible for a team to withstand 2 key players being so bad at the same time.

[Alf_Red_E]

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Senzel and Blandino will come off the IL by the time Burnes throws 3 more pitches.

We have missed Blandino's bullpen help... 'it's like trading for another pitcher'

[mhs95_06]

Jesse with his circa 2019 5 run bomb swing

That is why he's in his slump now. All-Star has gone to his head like 50 hrs has gone to Geno's.

[WildcatFan]

Votto roped that.

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Naquin did not.

[AG Slater]

Votto roped that.

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Naquin did not.

Agree yeah he roped it well. Burns might throw a no no vs this lineup

[mhs95_06]

India does his job, but the ump didn't, and that and hero swings torpedoed the scoring prospect that was initiated by India!

[Alf_Red_E]

India does his job, but the ump didn't, and that and hero swings torpedoed the scoring prospect that was initiated by India!

With regards to Votto's out... sometimes you just have to tip your cap to your opponent

[NebraskaRed]

Nice K of the struggling Pina

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"Elves work hard...in Santa's shop"

[powersackers]

Anyone else’s Audio all robotic on the feed from Bally Sports?


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[Coopdaddy67]

The Brewers have had at least 4 perfect swinging bunts the past two days. Yuck.

[coryfly]

Anyone else’s Audio all robotic on the feed from Bally Sports?


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Mine sounds like normal.

[Alabama Red]

I honestly think if I had a spring training to practice up I could go 3 for 52. If I guessed fastball on every pitch and swung at the first three pitches it would almost be impossible to not get a couple of hits. You’d just have to get used to the speed of the pitches and the pitcher would provide the power. Going 3 for 52 is just historically awful.

[Coopdaddy67]

Anyone else’s Audio all robotic on the feed from Bally Sports?

Yes, can't decide if it's an improvement or not though.

[Alf_Red_E]

Freeman!!!

Shogo should have talked him up

[powersackers]

Yes, can't decide if it's an improvement or not though.

Reboot box fixed it.


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[Alf_Red_E]

Putting on excessive eyeblack is kinda like KISS... it doesn't make the music better

[HammerTime]

I honestly think if I had a spring training to practice up I could go 3 for 52. If I guessed fastball on every pitch and swung at the first three pitches it would almost be impossible to not get a couple of hits. You’d just have to get used to the speed of the pitches and the pitcher would provide the power. Going 3 for 52 is just historically awful.

No you wouldn’t.

[Coopdaddy67]

At least the Reds aren't the Mets...

https://twitter.com/BarstoolHubbs/status/1416815605404028935

Edit: This was supposed to be in the general thread, but I'm an idiot, so enjoy it anyway.

[gagliano]

We get it everyone is blocked. You just post to talk to yourself. Votto isn't good

Amen

[RollyInRaleigh]

Sadak is insufferable.


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[TheBigLebowski]

Definitely a lot of bad luck in this series and losing Nick for almost all of it was the worst blow. But they have to find a way to salvage this series with a win. Somehow.

[gagliano]

Sonny, yesterday my life was filled with rain
Sonny, you smiled at me and really eased the pain
Now the dark days are done, and the bright days are here
My Sonny one shines so sincere
Sonny one so true, I love you

Whrn i was a kid, i thought the song said "one stroke through"...he stabbed her with a sword lol

[Alabama Red]

No you wouldn’t.

The worst batting average in history is 168 and that was in 2018. The previous record was 170 from before WW1. It took over 100 years to break the record. All you would need is a couple of bloopers and a slow roller in the right spot.

[NebraskaRed]

Geno had no chance there but boy did he not even try to run it out.

[TheBigLebowski]

At least the Reds aren't the Mets...

https://twitter.com/BarstoolHubbs/status/1416815605404028935

Edit: This was supposed to be in the general thread, but I'm an idiot, so enjoy it anyway.

I was watching that. Truly a bizarre play.

If he tossed the ball to a fan, even if it was fair and the play wasn’t dead, shouldn’t play be stopped? Were the Mets supposed to infiltrate the crowd and take the ball back by force?

[Alf_Red_E]

No you wouldn’t.

People frequently underestimate the eye acuity and fast twitch muscles necessary to hit a ball. even if they could eliminate the thinking part of hitting.

I can very easily sit comfortably in my chair and judge what I cannot do

[Alf_Red_E]

Freeman AGAIN that is saving a base

[powersackers]

People frequently underestimate the eye acuity and fast twitch muscles necessary to hit a ball. even if they could eliminate the thinking part of hitting.

I can very easily sit comfortably in my chair and judge what I cannot do

I’m 44. Haven’t played since HS. Went to Louisville Slugger museum earlier this month. Hit 19/20 in their batting cage. I think it’s about 60mph.


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[NebraskaRed]

If the Reds don't make it to the postseason this year, sticking with Geno and Garrett will be one of the things every beat writer points to as one of the reasons.

[Alabama Red]

People frequently underestimate the eye acuity and fast twitch muscles necessary to hit a ball. even if they could eliminate the thinking part of hitting.

I can very easily sit comfortably in my chair and judge what I cannot do

It’s not impossible to hit a baseball especially when you eliminate the decision making. MLB pitchers throw the ball around the strike zone so it narrows the hitting area. Just with dumb luck and a little skill your going to make contact on some of the 106 pitches. You just have to have to get a few to fall in.

[Sassy Sal]

Freeman AGAIN that is saving a base

That ball to Suarez sure looked like a major league error to me.

[Alf_Red_E]

I’m 44. Haven’t played since HS. Went to Louisville Slugger museum earlier this month. Hit 19/20 in their batting cage. I think it’s about 60mph.


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I couldn't hit my son's little league 35 mph machines... Luckily the one Dads-n-Lads game we had, I got a hit

[REDREAD]

I think I read that Lorenzen hurt his hamstring last night. Is that really true?

He had some kind of injury running the bases. I am not sure if it is hamstring or not. As far as I know, there's no update.
He was play CF, BTW.

[AG Slater]

I honestly think if I had a spring training to practice up I could go 3 for 52. If I guessed fastball on every pitch and swung at the first three pitches it would almost be impossible to not get a couple of hits. You’d just have to get used to the speed of the pitches and the pitcher would provide the power. Going 3 for 52 is just historically awful.

Are you talking about Suarez?

[coryfly]

Bell said it was a hamstring injury of some sort for Lorenzen. Said the worst part about it was all the fancy double switch opportunities they would now miss with big Mike out of the lineup.

[AG Slater]

If the Reds don't make it to the postseason this year, sticking with Geno and Garrett will be one of the things every beat writer points to as one of the reasons.

I agree with you. Bells loyalty is great for the bad individual players, but bad for the team

[Tom Servo]

I like the Reds strategy so far in this one, taking early leads wasn’t working. They’re playing 3D chess

[Alabama Red]

Are you talking about Suarez?

The catcher for the Brewers.

[NebraskaRed]

is this an episode of Sonny Gray's butt-talk?

[WildcatFan]

Butt shot!

[gagliano]

Are you talking about Suarez?

50 home runs or bust!

[Alabama Red]

Gray has settled down and will probably get 6 innings. Maybe 7 if he has a 10 or so pitch inning.

[AG Slater]

50 home runs or bust!

.175/.261/.632

[Alabama Red]

Winker can’t catch a break.

[Coopdaddy67]

Votto hit it a touch lighter and at a slightly lower angle. Success!

[Wonderful Monds]

Definitely feel better about the lineup with one of Cast or Votto hitting cleanup than Naquin

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Was Joey hitting the deck for the throwing lane for the 2B there?

[coryfly]

Saurez continues to guess wrong.

[traderumor]

Suarez lost again :(

[coryfly]

Votto really hitting the ball hard but Winker and Naquin not really giving them much against Burnes. Not sure the best chance right now isn't to have Tucker run in to one.

[mhs95_06]

Burnes carves up Geno again. Two ABs, each with 4 pitches and 3 strikes for the Ks. 1st AB actually all 4 were strikes, but one not called.

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[NebraskaRed]

It's kinda impressive how Geno can find the right time to hit a home run or a big double in order to make it seem like he might be turning a corner, but then of course he never does.

[REDREAD]

Was Joey hitting the deck for the throwing lane for the 2B there?

That's what Larkin said on the replay (to avoid getting hit by the throw)

[Alabama Red]

Definitely feel better about the lineup with one of Cast or Votto hitting cleanup than Naquin

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Was Joey hitting the deck for the throwing lane for the 2B there?

Naquin has not been good recently. With Winker in a slump, Cast out, and Freeman/Suarez/Naquin/Akiyama in the lineup a shutout seems likely.

[BluegrassRedleg]

Barry Larkin, Grunt Analyst


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[NebraskaRed]

It's grunt and butt talk on today's episode of "What are we talking about?"

[Wonderful Monds]

Learned today that Jason Lane converted from the OF to pitching, and got called up to pitch for the Pads in 2014, 7 years after his last appearance before that in 2007.

[Wonderful Monds]

Sonny didn’t want any of Adames there

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Rowdy Tellez looks exactly like the guy that just delivered my Jimmy Johns sandwich

[kaldaniels]

I like how we seem to have entered into sincere “I could hit better than this” territory.

You can’t count on that take every year.

[mhs95_06]

Sonny didn’t want any of Adames there

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Rowdy Tellez looks exactly like the guy that just delivered my Jimmy Johns sandwich

Now that a base is open, drill Rowdy and miss the elbow guard and hit the ribs!

[mhs95_06]

Sonny's last 3 back door breaking balls haven't had enough break to catch the zone and get the Ks, being walks instead.

[Tom Servo]

I like the Reds strategy so far in this one, taking early leads wasn’t working. They’re playing 3D chess
I did not mean getting this far behind.

Tyrone freaking Taylor, the new Bill Hall.

[TheBigLebowski]

That’ll do it.

What an ugly, frustrating series.

[Wonderful Monds]

Wheels are coming off the team, man


Runs are gonna be scarce against Burnes and the bullpen, not feeling good about this one. Looking down the barrel of a sweep.

[goreds2]

Is it time to “Nick” someone after the Brewers “Nicked” our best player out of the series?

[Wonderful Monds]

4 more innings left, but if they don’t manage to come back, this is a sweep that likely could’ve been avoided with any sense of urgency by the FO

[traderumor]

Tellez seeing a 3-2 curveball is not good baseball.

[faffy42]

The reds organization disappointing their fans yet again. How can you get excited about an organization that fails year after year after year. Excitement and hope for this team lasts for about a week at most during any season.

[redsfan9988]

Man I’m looking forward to Wade Miley’s next start. Gray has been pitching for my entire life. I feel like it’s 17 minutes between pitches.

[BluegrassRedleg]

Lucy will always get Charlie Brown to fall for it.


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[mhs95_06]

Game.

[Wonderful Monds]

The reds organization disappointing their fans yet again. How can you get excited about an organization that fails year after year after year. Excitement and hope for this team lasts for about a week at most during any season.

The frustrating thing is all they need bare minimum is a couple decent relievers, probably one of the cheapest commodities you can acquire in baseball. They got a good later inning guy last for all of Josh VanMeter, all they had to do was add a couple mil to the payroll and they could have a respectable bullpen.

[NebraskaRed]

When JBJ gets to you like that, you probably should have been taken out of the game.

[REDREAD]

The mighty Jackie Bradley Jr strikes again..:(

[Alabama Red]

Just a miserable outing from Gray. He had settled down and had an opportunity for a great start and it fell apart.

[redsfan9988]

This Brewers team is for real, man. They pitch, and even though half of their offensive guys wouldn’t make a high school varsity team, they field it well and come up with big hits. If Yelich gets going, they’ll win the NL.

[Sassy Sal]

I've seen enough. This post ASG performance seems familiar.

[traderumor]

You walk Rowdy, you deserve a big inning and a sweep.

[Wonderful Monds]

Hate to be one of those guys, but that kinda feels like the ballgame.


This series was a big ol dick punch.

[Coopdaddy67]

The sad thing is that Bell almost certainly wanted to take him out before they scored, but he knew he had no better option in the bullpen.

I'd have left him in too.

[NebraskaRed]

Go into the break on a big ol high, you just gotta know they were gonna come out of the break on a big ol low.

[redsfan9988]

This inning will never end. I’m going to take a trip to Geneva, come back, and it will still be the top of the 5th. Maybe I’m losing my attention span, or maybe it’s just an insanely frustrating series that I was looking forward to for four days, but I feel like this is taking forever.

[coryfly]

You walk Rowdy, you deserve a big inning and a sweep.

Yeah, I didn’t understand not just going right at him.


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[REDREAD]

Yea, time to clean up the basement.. I'll still have the app running, but Im not going to sit and watch with 100% of my attention.

[Alabama Red]

I hate to be negative but this is just an around 500 team. Too many holes and inconsistent players to be a playoff team.

[The Operator]

Been working on a remodel project today and following on GameCast.

Looked down at my phone and saw it got to 3-0 and JBJ was up. I thought to myself “Crap, you know he’s gonna do something” and well here we are.

The guy had a .171 batting average and The Reds cannot retire him with any consistency whatsoever. It’s mind boggling lol

[Wonderful Monds]

Archie Bradley has a 3.28 ERA for the Phils at this point btw. All they had to do was not be appalling cheap asses and they probably have at least 2-3 more wins right now, if not more.



This organization, or I guess I should say ownership, doesn’t deserve the support fans have been showing the last few weeks.

[redsfan9988]

Finally. Jimmy Carter was President when that inning started.

[REDREAD]

Archie Bradley has a 3.28 ERA for the Phils at this point btw. All they had to do was not be appalling cheap asses and they probably have at least 2-3 more wins right now, if not more.



This organization, or I guess I should say ownership, doesn’t deserve the support fans have been showing the last few weeks.

And while I have no proof.. Maybe if they kept Archie, it would have been less strain on Antone and Simms, and they wouldn't have gotten hurt.. Maybe not, but it would have been nice to have a decent reliever to share the load.
Archie was projected to make 4 million in arb. Dolittle and Bedrosion got 3 million combined to stink...

[NebraskaRed]

17458

[mhs95_06]

Sonny just couldn't get the 3rd out in the 5th. His last four hitters faced all reached safely with each succeeding one doing more damage than the one before!

[Red Buckeye]

Guess I'll be using my credit with the Reds next season. What a monumental letdown.

It feels like baseball success will never be found in Cincinnati. What a Whooping the Brwwers are putting on the Reds this year.

Blown leads in the 1st two games. No fight today. The team has conceded the season this weekend.

[The Operator]

Archie Bradley has a 3.28 ERA for the Phils at this point btw. All they had to do was not be appalling cheap asses and they probably have at least 2-3 more wins right now, if not more.



This organization, or I guess I should say ownership, doesn’t deserve the support fans have been showing the last few weeks.

That’s the most frustrating part. The fans are showing up far better than I ever expected. There is no excuse for this level of inaction. I’ve said it before and I keep coming back to it. I honestly think Castellini is worse than Carl Lindner. At least we knew what we were getting with Carl. But Castellini talks like he’s George Steinbrenner then spends like he’s Jeff Loria.

So incredibly frustrating considering this is a playoff caliber team with even an average bullpen.

[Tom Servo]

Archie Bradley has a 3.28 ERA for the Phils at this point btw. All they had to do was not be appalling cheap asses and they probably have at least 2-3 more wins right now, if not more.
Look at the K/BB.

I'm upset with the state of this bullpen but idk, it is what it is. Mahle played a big part in this series going the way it did too. Just a brutal, what, 45 hours or so? Nothing went right.

[RollyInRaleigh]

I’m 44. Haven’t played since HS. Went to Louisville Slugger museum earlier this month. Hit 19/20 in their batting cage. I think it’s about 60mph.


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I was fortunate to have my wife send me to Reds Fantasy camp 20 years ago. I was 40 and hadn’t played an organized game of baseball in nearly 20 years. The first guy I faced was a regular at the camp who trained and threw in the 80 mph range. My first at bat against him, I lined one by his ear right back up the middle. If you’ve played and are in some semblance of shape, it comes back quite quickly. If you’re outta shape and never played past Little League, it’s probably not gonna happen. I was still able to swing the bat and make solid contact a couple of years ago when I was a Varsity Assistant Coach at Brownsburg High School in Indiana.


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[faffy42]

Yep. The bullpen has been the biggest culprit this year. Just wish the excitement could linger for the reds, like maybe for a month!! Imagine that. Energy was buzzing big time before the all star break...and now same ol buzz kill.

[Alabama Red]

That’s the most frustrating part. The fans are showing up far better than I ever expected. There is no excuse for this level of inaction. I’ve said it before and I keep coming back to it. I honestly think Castellini is worse than Carl Lindner. At least we knew what we were getting with Carl. But Castellini talks like he’s George Steinbrenner then spends like he’s Jeff Loria.

So incredibly frustrating considering this is a playoff caliber team with even an average bullpen.

After this weekend it’s probably too late to do anything. The wildcard is a long shot and the Brewers are just a better team. In a week or so when we’re 10 games out it will be time to sell.

[757690]

Archie Bradley has a 3.28 ERA for the Phils at this point btw. All they had to do was not be appalling cheap asses and they probably have at least 2-3 more wins right now, if not more.



This organization, or I guess I should say ownership, doesn’t deserve the support fans have been showing the last few weeks.

Bradley has a 5.44 FIP. He really hasn’t be better than what the Reds currently have.

[Wonderful Monds]

Look at the K/BB.

I'm upset with the state of this bullpen but idk, it is what it is. Mahle played a big part in this series going the way it did too. Just a brutal, what, 45 hours or so? Nothing went right.

Not great for sure, but Bradley has a track record and he’s getting the results at the end of the day. I think he was one worth hanging onto. As much as Mahle and Gray stunk it up, you might be able to pull those guys earlier when they’re struggling if the pen affords you a quicker hook.

[goreds2]

Still only in the 5th inning.

[NebraskaRed]

Here comes Freeman's home run.

Ok, he struck out, but that's almost like a home run.

[Wonderful Monds]

Still only in the 5th inning.

True, but Burnes has allowed one hit and the Brewers pen is pretty nails. Would be pretty surprised if they come back in this one.

[Tom Servo]

You might think people would get tired of predicting that the season is over after literally 2 straight months of doing so but I guess here we are.

Yes the One Thing We Didn't Want to Happen appears to be happening. But there's more baseball to be played. One thing these guys have shown is that ass-whooping sweeps (Arizona, San Francisco, San Diego) don't crush their spirit nearly the way they do to Redszone, who declared the season over after each of them along with basically every other game they lost. Play better, win more games, and for the love of god get some bullpen reinforcement.

[The Operator]

Somehow this year’s inaction bothers me even worse than when they refused to replace Ryan Ludwick after his injury in 2013 and then doubled down on that cheapness and let Marlon Byrd go to The Pirates when they could have blocked it at the very least.

Castellini talks the talk but when it comes down to it, he’s just another Lindner.

[Wonderful Monds]

Bradley has a 5.44 FIP. He really hasn’t be better than what the Reds currently have.

He’s definitely going have a better than 5ish K/9 at the end of the year, he’s getting it done before his numbers normalize to their regular levels, I think he’ll be alright at the end of the day and better than anyone else in the Reds pen at the moment.

[NebraskaRed]

If they do anything at all (and that's a big IF), I just worry they'll wait to the last minute and wind up with a meaningless move that changes nothing.

[Wonderful Monds]

If they do anything at all (and that's a big IF), I just worry they'll wait to the last minute and wind up with a meaningless move that changes nothing.

I imagine they’ll pick up the corpse of Joakim Soria at 3:59 on the 31st, at which point we may have settled back down around .500 and be 10 or so back in the standings.

[redsfan9988]

You might think people would get tired of predicting that the season is over after literally 2 straight months of doing so but I guess here we are.

Yes the One Thing We Didn't Want to Happen appears to be happening. But there's more baseball to be played. One thing these guys have shown is that ass-whooping sweeps (Arizona, San Francisco, San Diego) don't crush their spirit nearly the way they do to Redszone, who declared the season over after each of them along with basically every other game they lost. Play better, win more games, and for the love of god get some bullpen reinforcement.

I agree with this. It’s hard to describe how excited I was for this series, and how disappointed I am by it’s progression. That said, 7 games out with a cupcake schedule. We lost the only guy in the lineup who’s hitting in game 1. Castellanos will be back and they’ll play better.

[Tom Servo]

He’s definitely going have a better than 5ish K/9 at the end of the year, he’s getting it done before his numbers normalize to their regular levels, I think he’ll be alright at the end of the day and better than anyone else in the Reds pen at the moment.
WM you know i love you but at a certain point this sounds similar to '76 explaining why Garrett is actually good. Yeah Bradley's ERA is fine but a 5.1 BB/9 and 5.1 K/9 absolutely sucks. The Reds were still being cheap and stupid to let him go, but he's not pitching well at all and is much more likely to fall off a cliff than regain previous form.

[Wonderful Monds]

I think they do need a serious shot in the lineup either way, especially if regression doesn’t stop biting Winker in the ass

[KronoRed]

I imagine they’ll pick up the corpse of Joakim Soria at 3:59 on the 31st, at which point we may have settled back down around .500 and be 10 or so back in the standings.

But...guys might come back from being injured, it's like winning the lottery!

[TheBigLebowski]

Even if you get a couple decent BP arms, there’s still too much inherent flaw for this team to compete for anything.Winker us spiraling, Suarez is a lost cause, Mike Moustakas still hasn’t gotten over that hideous heel disfigurement he incurred while dancing The Charleston on hot lava coals and daggers made out of Valeryian steel, SenzIL will return to the DL as soon he is activated due to what began as a friendly game of Twister but quickly elevated to a full scale battle royale, etc.

I’d be pretty happy if they ended the year with a winning record but that seems a bit of a longshot.

[KronoRed]

I would actually find it somewhat understandable if they didn't do anything for the pen but at least found some bats.

Instead I expect them to do neither, a big middle finger to the fans.

[AG Slater]

Back to 4th place very soon. Cards and Cubs in striking distanc

[NebraskaRed]

What if they brought back Marlon Byrd and Ryan Ludwick

[AG Slater]

You might think people would get tired of predicting that the season is over after literally 2 straight months of doing so but I guess here we are.

Yes the One Thing We Didn't Want to Happen appears to be happening. But there's more baseball to be played. One thing these guys have shown is that ass-whooping sweeps (Arizona, San Francisco, San Diego) don't crush their spirit nearly the way they do to Redszone, who declared the season over after each of them along with basically every other game they lost. Play better, win more games, and for the love of god get some bullpen reinforcement.

You seriously need to put down the Red Kool-Aid. Wake up this team isn't a playoff team

[Wonderful Monds]

WM you know i love you but at a certain point this sounds similar to '76 explaining why Garrett is actually good. Yeah Bradley's ERA is fine but a 5.1 BB/9 and 5.1 K/9 absolutely sucks. The Reds were still being cheap and stupid to let him go, but he's not pitching well at all and is much more likely to fall off a cliff than regain previous form.

Hey I mean that could definitely be the case, but I’d rather gamble on Bradley bouncing back than wishing on the Hendrixes of the world. Bradley could be toast, but I don’t think it’s far out of the realm of possibility that he bounces back either. He’s only 20 something innings post injury and this is the first season he’s pitched poorly. It’s not like AG where he has a career track record of being a pretty mediocre, Bradley has been a pretty consistently decent to good reliever his whole career.

A 1:1 K/BB sitting at 5 per 9 is obviously bad, I just think it’s possible if not likely he has more in the tank, at least more so than the other jabronis we’re running out on the mound.

[NebraskaRed]

You seriously need to put down the Red Kool-Aid. Wake up this team isn't a playoff team

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[Tom Servo]

What if they brought back Marlon Byrd and Ryan Ludwick
I'd settle for a Nick Castellanos. I think most baseball analysts would give you a slight mulligan on a series like this after losing your best hitter after his 2nd AB.

[Alabama Red]

Even if you get a couple decent BP arms, there’s still too much inherent flaw for this team to compete for anything.Winker us spiraling, Suarez is a lost cause, Mike Moustakas still hasn’t gotten over that hideous heel disfigurement he incurred while dancing The Charleston on hot lava coals and daggers made out of Valeryian steel, SenzIL will return to the DL as soon he is activated due to what began as a friendly game of Twister but quickly elevated to a full scale battle royale, etc.
It’s a clear sell situation after this series. Even if a miracle happens and they make the playoffs can they win a World Series? We’ve got some young talent but our roster isn’t set up to move salary so the option is to move Cast, Miley and Tucker. I think those 3 could get us some close to ready players. When you’re tied down with Akiyama, Votto, Moose and Suarez it’s going to take a few years to get in position to win.
I’d be pretty happy if they ended the year with a winning record but that seems a bit of a longshot.

[NebraskaRed]

I'd settle for a Nick Castellanos. I think most baseball analysts would give you a slight mulligan on a series like this after losing your best hitter after his 2nd AB.

Yeah, but that's not as funny as re-signing Byrd.

[redsfan9988]

Time for optimism! The Mets without DeGrom are basically the Rockies. We have Mahle, Castillo, and Gray going against the Cards. Let’s get 5 of 6 and have a winning home stand. That’s 53-46 with plenty of winnable series’ coming up in August and September. Barrero will be up soon. Maybe Greene/Lodolo. Where we are now is mighty disappointing considering the high going in to the break, but in an overall sense, we’re not far off.
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[Tom Servo]

Time for optimism! The Mets without DeGrom are basically the Rockies. We have Mahle, Castillo, and Gray going against the Cards. Let’s get 5 of 6 and have a winning home stand. That’s 53-46 with plenty of winnable series’ coming up in August and September. Barrero will be up soon. Maybe Greene/Lodolo. Where we are now is mighty disappointing considering the high going in to the break, but in an overall sense, we’re not far off.
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Yeah nobody wants to hear it obviously but given what we've seen from this team this is pretty much equally as likely to happen as the backbreaking streak that end the season. That's why they play the game.

[Reds Fanatic]

Leadoff hit for India

[Tom Servo]

Leadoff hit for India
It begins

[NebraskaRed]

It begins

It ends

[Reds Fanatic]

It is time to get Winker out of the 2nd spot. He is batting the .168 the last month

[redsfan9988]

It ends

lol

[NebraskaRed]

It is time to get Winker out of the 2nd spot. He is batting the .168 the last month

I don't know. The Reds have this habit of sticking with the same thing over and over and hoping something will change.

It seems to have worked out well.

Sorry, I meant not well.

[Wonderful Monds]

Welp, it’s poolside time for me folks. Maybe a couple of rally Twisted Teas in absence will turn this ship around.

[NebraskaRed]

The Mets might come back and win this game against the Pirates, but either way their bullpen is getting a workout. I'm not sure who is starting for them tomorrow or whether it's a bullpen day.

[Wonderful Monds]

Damn can’t even load the cooler up fast enough to miss Cionel Perez do his thing

[Todd Gack]

It is time to get Winker out of the 2nd spot. He is batting the .168 the last month
Can we retroactively un-All Star him? Dude has been garbage since selected.

[KronoRed]

Castellanos is going to set himself a new career high for walks if nobody else discovers how to get on base.

[Bushman]

Hate this! Man, what a difference 3 days can make. From contenders to pretenders. Pretty sorry effort by the Reds IMO. If you're not disappointed, then somethings wrong.

[dsterry]

How is Cionel Perez still on this roster?

[NC-Red]

Lol at how despicably bad this team is. Cannot believe it took all of you this series to realize it. The faster this team sells then the better

[NebraskaRed]

Reds are just 11 HBPs away from tying this game up.

[alexad]

How is Cionel Perez still on this roster?

Exactly my thoughts!!!!!! When was the last time he pitched not giving up a run??


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[WildcatFan]

How is Cionel Perez still on this roster?

Their best four relievers are hurt and the FO refuses to go get more.

[alexad]

Winker needs to take a few days off. Or put him in the 5 hole. Mix it up.


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[NebraskaRed]

Lol at how despicably bad this team is. Cannot believe it took all of you this series to realize it. The faster this team sells then the better

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[Tony Cloninger]

North Canada must be a really miserable place to live.

Anyways. Now that this season is over I’m going to read more. The Unbearable Lightness of Being sounds appropriate.

[NebraskaRed]

I started watching the Cardinals-Giants game and they just removed Wade LeBlanc from the game right before he was going to face LaMonte Wade.

Jerks.

[Tony Cloninger]

Can we retroactively un-All Star him? Dude has been garbage since selected.

What happened to him. I mean sure 340 was probably a long shot but to hit like German Barranca for a month. I mean Juan Castro could do better right now. Juan Castro.

I still see them taking 2 out if 3 from the Mets. But if they get swept then it’s 2914 all over again. And Bob better not sit in his hands. You either buy or sell.

[CaiGuy]

Lol at how despicably bad this team is. Cannot believe it took all of you this series to realize it. The faster this team sells then the better

You and Slater, etc Al are like the Reds front office... don't add anything.

[Billy_Bearcat]

I still see them taking 2 out if 3 from the Mets. But if they get swept then it’s 2914 all over again. And Bob better not sit in his hands. You either buy or sell.

This FO has always been a wait and see organization during the season. I fully expect them to do nothing more than wait for injured players to return.

[traderumor]

There are many that just do not have the temperament to follow an MLB team closely.

[NebraskaRed]

If I were Bell, I would have stuck with Perez until his arm fell off. Why waste anyone else today?

[Jomama]

What happened to him. I mean sure 340 was probably a long shot but to hit like German Barranca for a month. I mean Juan Castro could do better right now. Juan Castro.

I still see them taking 2 out if 3 from the Mets. But if they get swept then it’s 2914 all over again. And Bob better not sit in his hands. You either buy or sell.

Winker is a streaky hitter. He is a lifetime 283 hitter so he is just reverting to the mean. Now Suarez is a whole other issue.

[JaxRed]

That was Perez's first earned run since his callup on 26 June

[NebraskaRed]

That was Perez's first earned run since his callup on 26 June

But he's barely pitched in that time.

[Tony Cloninger]

There are many that just do not have the temperament to follow an MLB team closely.

It’s like the tortoise and the hare. In a world of social media instant gratification. No wonder baseball is not popular with these Gen Z millennial fresh punk kids!

[CaiGuy]

There are many that just do not have the temperament to follow an MLB team closely.

Bingo, they are too into right now, today.

There was a guy last season in a game thread complaining about the Castellanos signing after an ugly ab. It was like the 3rd game of the season.

The same guy is probably calling for an ill-advised extension now. And will cry when he leaves.

They are probably better suited not follow the NFL.

[CaiGuy]

It’s like the tortoise and the hare. In a world of social media instant gratification. No wonder baseball is not popular with these Gen Z millennial fresh punk kids!

Dude, it's boomers coming here whining about baseball all the time. Millennials aren't trolling the game threads.

[gagliano]

Bradley has a 5.44 FIP. He really hasn’t be better than what the Reds currently have.

He may have a 5.15 FIP but he also has a 1.12 SPOOT

[NebraskaRed]

Might as well let Doolittle pitch the ninth.

[traderumor]

I want the Reds to be a contender, but when you get some perspective, and have gone through midseason strikes and a pandemic, that there is a team on the field to b$?!h about is a good thing.

[Tony Cloninger]

Winker is a streaky hitter. He is a lifetime 283 hitter so he is just reverting to the mean. Now Suarez is a whole other issue.

I always looked at him as a potential.300 plus hitter who was having his breakout season. An all fields hitter with power who can be better. But sure based on what you stated than this makes sense it would happen.

Suarez after that AB yesterday when he refused to adjust and again is just about the home run. He needs to go. He can figure it out somewhere else.

[SomeCallMeTim]

Three day wrap up:

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[gagliano]

If they do anything at all (and that's a big IF), I just worry they'll wait to the last minute and wind up with a meaningless move that changes nothing.

Like bench saurez the day after they are eliminated

[Tony Cloninger]

Dude, it's boomers coming here whining about baseball all the time. Millennials aren't trolling the game threads.

Don’t dude me bro. Boomers can barely turn on a computer. It’s Gen Z/Millies that are the problem. With their loud music and hurt feelings.

[KeefeCato]

Anyone else sick of seeing Burnes messing with his 1988 mullet after each pitch?

[AG Slater]

It’s like the tortoise and the hare. In a world of social media instant gratification. No wonder baseball is not popular with these Gen Z millennial fresh punk kids!

The old man talking about the next generation. It's a never ending loop

[NebraskaRed]

I predicted that Freeman would hit a home run, and he met my challenge by striking out 3 times.

[Jomama]

I always looked at him as a potential.300 plus hitter who was having his breakout season. An all fields hitter with power who can be better. But sure based on what you stated than this makes sense it would happen.

Suarez after that AB yesterday when he refused to adjust and again is just about the home run. He needs to go. He can figure it out somewhere else.

And there is still time for Winker to turn it around this season. I also looked at him to have the potential to put up near Votto-like numbers, and hopefully he will have that break out year yet. He'll get hot again.

[traderumor]

When I saw the lineups, on paper I thought we should take this game. Does baseball ever work that way? Here's to a nice slump in the Brewers future.

[traderumor]

The old man talking about the next generation. It's a never ending loop

There's a reason for that. You will understand it one day, grasshopper.

[Tony Cloninger]

The old man talking about the next generation. It's a never ending loop

Sorry Skater but I’m way too cool to be old. It’s the next generation I’m worried about.

[Tom Servo]

Bingo, they are too into right now, today.

There was a guy last season in a game thread complaining about the Castellanos signing after an ugly ab. It was like the 3rd game of the season.

The same guy is probably calling for an ill-advised extension now. And will cry when he leaves.

They are probably better suited not follow the NFL.
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[TheBigLebowski]

In the game threads in which the Reds are playing poorly/losing, there’s always a group that levies criticism at the players and front office. Then, just as predictable, a certain group of posters who levy criticism at the first group.

Group 1 generally waves bye bye to logic and rationality rather quickly, firing managers at the drop of a hat and declaring every hitter as washed up after one strikeout and demoting pitchers who surrender runs.

Group Ii quickly follows suit, criticizing those fans rather heavily, insulting the other group’s knowledge and intellect while lamenting days past - a calmer, quieter time which saw everyone posting only positive, saccharine takes about how hard the guys tried and how hard baseball is. Only Pepperidge Farms remembers ever seeing a sports team’s website which is bursting at the seams with logic and calm.

Some days we actually get treated to watching two firebrands who abandon dialectic entirely and continue the debate out of doors.

You can set your watch to it.

It’s like watching a war fought between 2 equally unsavory sides. Regardless of who is victorious, there are no winners.

[Tom Servo]

Adames has certainly terrorized Reds pitching, that alone has me wishing RTG’s dream of him with us had come true.

[traderumor]

In the game threads in which the Reds are playing poorly/losing, there’s always a group that levies criticism at the players and front office. Then, just as predictable, a certain group of posters who levy criticism at the first group.

Group 1 generally waves bye bye to logic and rationality rather quickly, firing managers at the drop of a hat and declaring every hitter as washed up after one strikeout and demoting pitchers who surrender runs.

Group Ii quickly follows suit, criticizing those fans rather heavily, insulting the other group’s knowledge and intellect while lamenting days past - a calmer, quieter time which saw everyone posting only positive, saccharine takes about how hard the guys tried and how hard baseball is. Only Pepperidge Farms remembers ever seeing a sports team’s website which is bursting at the seams with logic and calm.

Some days we actually get treated to watching two firebrands who abandon dialectic entirely and continue the debate out of doors.

You can set your watch to it.

It’s like watching a war fought between 2 equally unsavory sides. Regardless of who is victorious, there are no winners.

and then there's the one who thinks they need to smugly mock both factions with condescending eloquence

[Tony Cloninger]

I would like to apply to Group 4. The one that knows it all. Has all the answers. And tells the others to do as they’re told.

[TheBigLebowski]

and then there's the one who thinks they need to smugly mock both factions with condescending eloquence

And Group 2 checks in. Right on time.

[Tony Cloninger]

and then there's the one who thinks they need to smugly mock both factions with condescending eloquence


It’s classic Gerald from South Park. Smug Alert!

I’m here for the jokes and to make people smile. The laughter. Does anyone remember laughter.

[traderumor]

And Group 2 checks in. Right on time.

because you are above it all, right? I would say Group 3 is the worst of them all.

[TheBigLebowski]

because you are above it all, right? I would say Group 3 is the worst of them all.

I neither said nor implied it. I have a lot of regrettable moments in these threads. It was just a casual observation of very predictable behavior.

[CaiGuy]

In the game threads in which the Reds are playing poorly/losing, there’s always a group that levies criticism at the players and front office. Then, just as predictable, a certain group of posters who levy criticism at the first group.

Group 1 generally waves bye bye to logic and rationality rather quickly, firing managers at the drop of a hat and declaring every hitter as washed up after one strikeout and demoting pitchers who surrender runs.

Group Ii quickly follows suit, criticizing those fans rather heavily, insulting the other group’s knowledge and intellect while lamenting days past - a calmer, quieter time which saw everyone posting only positive, saccharine takes about how hard the guys tried and how hard baseball is. Only Pepperidge Farms remembers ever seeing a sports team’s website which is bursting at the seams with logic and calm.

Some days we actually get treated to watching two firebrands who abandon dialectic entirely and continue the debate out of doors.

You can set your watch to it.

It’s like watching a war fought between 2 equally unsavory sides. Regardless of who is victorious, there are no winners.

I see two groups as well, but I see them differently.

One group comes to talk about Reds baseball...the great, the good, the bad, the ugly. And we all know we usually get the later..none is revealing any hidden truth. Some are positive and upbeat, some are pessimistic. They often disagree. But they all know and enjoy baseball. They can usually back up their opinions. They are not always positive about everything, or negative

Then there is the 2nd group who come to vent, troll, and instigate. They often make comments that are not rooted in fact. When they get called out or proven wrong, they get angry or defensive. They disappear when things do go well. The only things they can add are "the Reds suck," or "why do you all waste your time on the Reds" or dumb crap like that. They don't know baseball well enough to add to the discussion.

They are best ignored.

[mhs95_06]

An interception thrown by Rowdy as he sails the throw over the head of the intended receiver!

[Powder River]

Oh my how times change…. Feeling so good about this team before the AS break. Now, not so much. FWIW, the lineup does seem very different without Cast batting third.

[TheBigLebowski]

I see two groups as well, but I see them differently.

One group comes to talk about Reds baseball...the great, the good, the bad, the ugly. And we all know we usually get the later Some are positive and upbeat, some are pessimistic. They often disagree. But they all know and enjoy baseball. They can usually back up their opinions. They are not always positive about everything, or negative

Then there is the 2nd group who come to vent, troll, and instigate. They often make comments that are not rooted in fact. When they get called out or proven wrong, they get angry or defensive. They disappear when things do go well. The only things they can add are "the Reds suck," or "why do you all waste your time on the Reds" or dumb crap like that. They don't know baseball well enough to add to the discussion.

They are best ignored.

I would agree the 2nd group is probably the better place to be.

As I said above, I do not mean to condescend to anyone. I’m far from perfect in these threads.

The solution is simple. The Reds have to commit to never losing again. Then we’ll all get along.

[adkindo]

at least we know Winker is still able to hit

[mhs95_06]

A good sign that Winker gets a solid hit on the left side of 2B!

[NebraskaRed]

Geno, man.

[CaiGuy]

Just two slams and a blast away.

[mhs95_06]

Just 1 slam will do it, once we get the five hitters who are on the field now across the plate!

[NebraskaRed]

After Castellanos was removed the game on Friday, the Brewers outscored the Reds 25-6 for the rest of the series.

[Tony Cloninger]

Group 4 meeting. Honey Jack and Coke. Lots of fun. Topics include stealing bases will help you manufacture runs and make the BA great again.

[Tom Servo]

Winker has obviously been in a slump but I don’t think he looked particularly bad at the plate this series, he hammered several balls that were loud outs.

[mhs95_06]

With that little rally in the 9th, that was stoked by the interception, and that prevented a complete game shut-out, but netted no runs, the Reds ended with 5 players getting one hit, while the Brewers had 5 players who got 2 hits.

[Ron Madden]

I guess I coulda picked a better game to go off on my earlier rant. ;)

[Tony Cloninger]

With that little rally in the 9th, that was stoked by the interception, and that prevented a complete game shut-out, but netted no runs, the Reds ended with 5 players getting one hit, while the Brewers had 5 players who got 2 hits.


So they lost again then. What a terrible organization. Can’t believe I stopped drinking to watch this.

[Bruce Berenyi]

your rants are about as valuable as this teams bullpen