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Ron Madden
08-04-2021, 09:05 AM
Reds
1. Jonathan India (R) 2B
2. Jesse Winker (L) LF
3. Kyle Farmer (R) SS
4. Joey Votto (L) 1B
5. Tyler Stephenson (R) C
6. Eugenio Suarez (R) 3B
7. Aristides Aquino (R) RF
8. Shogo Akiyama (L) CF
9. Luis Castillo (R) P

Twins
1. Max Kepler (L) CF
2. Brent Rooker (R) LF
3. Jorge Polanco (S) SS
4. Luis Arraez (L) 3B
5. Miguel Sano (R) 1B
6. Trevor Larnach (L) RF
7. Nick Gordon (L) 2B
8. Ryan Jeffers (R) C
9. Charlie Barnes (L) P

Ron Madden
08-04-2021, 09:48 AM
We could sure use a winning streak right now.


Joel Luckhaupt of the Pawnee Lerpiss family
@jluckhaupt

Reds are now 8-9 since the All-Star break despite having scored 5+ runs in 12 of the 17 games. Last night was their 5th loss since the break when leading in the 7th inning or later, the most in baseball

Tom Servo
08-04-2021, 10:20 AM
the term "must win" is thrown out a lot, but...

Tom Servo
08-04-2021, 10:39 AM
Bobby Nightengale
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David Bell said Nick Castellanos will take BP on the field again today. "We might be a day away from seeing him back." #Reds

Ironman92
08-04-2021, 11:23 AM
Here to watch the onslaught

HammerTime
08-04-2021, 11:41 AM
Once again I'll ask.... Why is Sims not with the team yet?

Ron Madden
08-04-2021, 11:42 AM
Today is a fine day to start a winning streak.

mhs95_06
08-04-2021, 11:51 AM
We could sure use a winning streak right now.

Could have been 13-4 if we had a closing streak!

klw
08-04-2021, 11:54 AM
Once again I'll ask.... Why is Sims not with the team yet?

Gee what's the rush? Reds and urgency don't mix.

Bruce Berenyi
08-04-2021, 12:10 PM
yes lets score more runs than the o ther team and then bring in hembree or doolittle

Kc61
08-04-2021, 12:15 PM
Hoping we see Cast, Sims, Senzel and Moose all back during the upcoming Pirates series.

Seems like about time for all of them.

Get a win today and then call in the reinforcements.

Larry Schuler
08-04-2021, 12:23 PM
Tonight is Brach's time to shine as closer.

HammerTime
08-04-2021, 12:32 PM
Moose HR last night...

https://twitter.com/LouisvilleBats/status/1422958151041785862?s=20

VR
08-04-2021, 12:40 PM
Quick follow up from last night.....according to Umpire Scorecards, it was the game with the worst ball strike calls of the year, netting a +2.11 runs for the Twins.

Kc61
08-04-2021, 12:46 PM
Fine play by Suarez, 1-0 Twins.

Ironman92
08-04-2021, 12:46 PM
Nice play by Suarez

Ironman92
08-04-2021, 12:46 PM
Quick follow up from last night.....according to Umpire Scorecards, it was the game with the worst ball strike calls of the year, netting a +2.11 runs for the Twins.

Isn’t this the crew with O’nora?

KeefeCato
08-04-2021, 12:47 PM
Nice play by Geno. He makes some really good plays then boots the routine ones.

mhs95_06
08-04-2021, 12:47 PM
Quick follow up from last night.....according to Umpire Scorecards, it was the game with the worst ball strike calls of the year, netting a +2.11 runs for the Twins.

Makes sense from what we saw. Olympics using a lot of spatial electronics to judge in our out. When will MLB make it a more fair contest?

mhs95_06
08-04-2021, 12:49 PM
They say when the favorite in basketball falls behind, the basket shrinks up for them. I hope that same sort of thing does not happen against the lefty.

Kc61
08-04-2021, 12:49 PM
Even with the homer, I like Castillo in this ballpark. When he’s right, the combo on GBs and Ks works well. I would extend him.

Don’t feel that way about Mahle who might be better off in a bigger stadium. I’d consider trading him if a good offer materializes.

Base hit India!

Ironman92
08-04-2021, 12:50 PM
India .443 since June 1st

Love him leading off the lineup and on this team

Ironman92
08-04-2021, 12:50 PM
Not played well but stayed with it and finished well

VR
08-04-2021, 12:50 PM
Makes sense from what we saw. Olympics using a lot of spatial electronics to judge in our out. When will MLB make it a more fair contest?

Their last loss against the Mets netted a +1.57 advantage for NY, the 4th largest disparity this year (In ALL of MLB)

mhs95_06
08-04-2021, 12:51 PM
It is preached to not swing on balls out of the zone and when players do, the umps don't reward it.

Ironman92
08-04-2021, 12:51 PM
Farmer is an 0-4 or 1-5 from moving down the lineup some for me

Regulus
08-04-2021, 12:52 PM
It would be sweet to have Senzel and Castellanos available today to give Winker the day off against this lefty. He is under .200 vs. left-handers.

JFLegal
08-04-2021, 12:52 PM
farmer in the 3 hole can't last for much longer. he had a lucky month.

hopefully casty is back very soon.

KeefeCato
08-04-2021, 12:53 PM
They don't have anyone to do it right now. But Winker really needs to be platooned again. His numbers would look so much better

REDREAD
08-04-2021, 12:53 PM
India is such a good hitter. I know last season there was no minor leagues, but it's amazing he had zero hype in the minors.
Not calling anyone out, but it's just crazy how he flew under the radar for so long. Even at the beginning of the season, it didn't seem like he was a sure thing. Honestly, Senzel's injury was a huge blessing in disguise, as it gave India another shot at starting. I hope Senzel comes back healthy.. just saying, if he hadn't got hurt, India may have ridden the bench all year.

JFLegal
08-04-2021, 12:53 PM
India .443 since June 1st

Love him leading off the lineup and on this team

yeah, i love everything about him. great pick with the #5 overall pick of the 2018 draft. he will be a pillar of the reds for many years to come. absolute gamer and very good at his craft.

Kc61
08-04-2021, 12:55 PM
yeah, i love everything about him. great pick with the #5 overall pick of the 2018 draft. he will be a pillar of the reds for many years to come. absolute gamer and very good at his craft.

Barrero and India have the makings of a fine double play combo offensively and defensively. Young and controllable.

Catcher is in good shape.

Need to pin down CF to solidify up the middle.

KeefeCato
08-04-2021, 12:55 PM
I wish they could steal bases. India is fast. They don't even attempt to. Takes the DP away when successful.
They are terrible at preventing stolen bases and getting steals.

Kc61
08-04-2021, 12:56 PM
I wish they could steal bases. India is fast. They don't even attempt to. Takes the DP away when successful.
They are terrible at preventing stolen bases and getting steals.

India is pretty fast but the team is pretty slow. As Reds replace veterans they need to focus on good players with speed.

VR
08-04-2021, 12:57 PM
What the heck? I've now seen 3 balls inside the zone called balls for the Mets, and 2 outside the zone called strikes for Reds.

REDREAD
08-04-2021, 12:57 PM
yeah, i love everything about him. great pick with the #5 overall pick of the 2018 draft. he will be a pillar of the reds for many years to come. absolute gamer and very good at his craft.

Arguably, the best draft pick the Reds have had since..maybe Leake? Or if one thinks India is better than Leake.. man, I can't even think back that far.. Bruce or Votto ? (Maybe I'm missing someone) . Ty Stephenson is obviously also a great pick, but I would put India ahead of him at this point..

REDREAD
08-04-2021, 12:58 PM
India is pretty fast but the team is pretty slow. As Reds replace veterans they need to focus on good players with speed.

yep, they could definitely use some speed added in the OF, in particular (to help tighten up the defense).

Ironman92
08-04-2021, 12:58 PM
farmer in the 3 hole can't last for much longer. he had a lucky month.

hopefully casty is back very soon.

I’ll admit it’s not who he is but I don’t like the word lucky. He hit line drives and hit the ball where it was pitched and was perfect on defense. He’s been too good to use the word lucky IMO.

Kc61
08-04-2021, 01:00 PM
yep, they could definitely use some speed added in the OF, in particular (to help tighten up the defense).

I’m probably the last holdout who expects good things from Senzel.

He’s been very injury prone but he doesn’t have one major chronic issue (to my knowledge).

He’s a very good athlete, with speed, and if could just stay on the field I think he is one guy that adds needed skills.

I know virtually everyone has given up on him, and I get that.

REDREAD
08-04-2021, 01:00 PM
So Barnes has never hit in the majors or minors, and his first attempt is against Castillo :lol:
Life is just not fair.

VR
08-04-2021, 01:01 PM
Don't love grinding through pitches on a batter that has never had an at bat in the majors or minors.

Kc61
08-04-2021, 01:04 PM
yep, they could definitely use some speed added in the OF, in particular (to help tighten up the defense).

TJ Friedl could also add speed if there’s a place for him next year. Much younger than Shogo, probably speedier but just a guess. Shogo still a decent runner.

Need to peel away some of the DH types in exchange for athletes, if possible. See the Moose/Suarez thread.

Ironman92
08-04-2021, 01:04 PM
I wish they could steal bases. India is fast. They don't even attempt to. Takes the DP away when successful.
They are terrible at preventing stolen bases and getting steals.

He definitely was slowed up a decent bit for nearly 3 weeks with a less than perfect ankle issue. I’d be ok if he stole 10-15.

Winker/Votto/Suarez are 3 of the slowest everyday players around….Farmer below average speed. Barnhart and Stephenson the same.

Naquin average speed, AA has above average top end speed but Insticts/angles are bad putting him below avg. Shogo above average speed and if good enough to be a regular could steal 20-25…..but he’s not. Freeman and Schrock maybe best built to steal but neither would be great.

This team has no build to steal bases or really even run them well as a team.

Roy Tucker
08-04-2021, 01:06 PM
Votto’s look on that non-strike call was priceless

Ironman92
08-04-2021, 01:06 PM
What the heck? I've now seen 3 balls inside the zone called balls for the Mets, and 2 outside the zone called strikes for Reds.

Huh?

Kc61
08-04-2021, 01:07 PM
He definitely was slowed up a decent bit fir nearly 3 weeks with a less than perfect ankle issue. I’d be ok if he stole 10-15.

Winker/Votto/Suarez are 3 of the slowest everyday players around….Farmer below average speed. Barnhart and Stephenson the same.

Naquin average speed, AA has above average top end speed but Insticts/angles are bad putting him below avg. Shogo above average speed and if good enough to be a regular could steal 20-25…..but he’s not. Freeman and Schrock maybe best built to steal but neither would be great.

This team has no build to steal bases or really even run them well as a team.

Lack of speed costs the Reds defensively in the outfield. Also costs scoring baserunners on hits.

Not so worried about steals.

VR
08-04-2021, 01:09 PM
Huh?

Just terrible. Reds finally get a call on ball 2 to Votto.

JFLegal
08-04-2021, 01:11 PM
hey, finally a blooper drops in.

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geno has turned into mid-00s griffey in terms of his hustle, but whateves. now it looks like he might be nursing a pulled muscle in his leg or something.

Big Klu
08-04-2021, 01:13 PM
I’m probably the last holdout who expects good things from Senzel.

He’s been very injury prone but he doesn’t have one major chronic issue (to my knowledge).

He’s a very good athlete, with speed, and if could just stay on the field I think he is one guy that adds needed skills.

I know virtually everyone has given up on him, and I get that.

To be perfectly honest, I've never been super high on Senzel from the beginning. I've always wanted him to do well, but I guess I've never seen what others have. I always sort of thought that he was the #2 overall pick because it was a pretty lean draft year.

kaldaniels
08-04-2021, 01:14 PM
Bloop hit for Geno.

Gotta say as the thought just crossed my mind - I like him and I think he has a sincerely goofy/fun personality.

But he needs to be glad he’s in Cincinnati. Can you imagine how his schtick would play out in New York given his on-field performance? He’d get eaten alive.

VR
08-04-2021, 01:14 PM
It is weird to see Suarez average between .170 and .180 since June 12th. At least he's consistent. :help:

Ironman92
08-04-2021, 01:15 PM
Lack of speed costs the Reds defensively in the outfield. Also costs scoring baserunners on hits.

Not so worried about steals.

I’ll add it takes pressure off opposing defenses to make the play….knowing they don’t have to rush.

JFLegal
08-04-2021, 01:16 PM
reds seem to be lacking any sort of energy today. need something good to happen to get the wheels in motion.

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Bloop hit for Geno.

Gotta say as the thought just crossed my mind - I like him and I think he has a sincerely goofy/fun personality.

But he needs to be glad he’s in Cincinnati. Can you imagine how his schtick would play out in New York given his on-field performance? He’d get eaten alive.

i mean, he's less than 2 years removed from a 49-HR season.

REDREAD
08-04-2021, 01:19 PM
I’m probably the last holdout who expects good things from Senzel.

He’s been very injury prone but he doesn’t have one major chronic issue (to my knowledge).

He’s a very good athlete, with speed, and if could just stay on the field I think he is one guy that adds needed skills.

I know virtually everyone has given up on him, and I get that.

Yea, I haven't given up on Senzel, but lowered expecations.
Hopefully, he's a late bloomer.
I wonder if Cast leaves, if they will try him in RF and try to get a CF.. probably not, but that sure would help the defense (assuming a good glove CF was added)

kaldaniels
08-04-2021, 01:22 PM
reds seem to be lacking any sort of energy today. need something good to happen to get the wheels in motion.

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i mean, he's less than 2 years removed from a 49-HR season.


And he is on pace for around 30 this year. And on pace to be one of the worst everyday players in the league.

JFLegal
08-04-2021, 01:24 PM
And he is on pace for around 30 this year. And on pace to be one of the worst everyday players in the league.

right, my point is yankees fans aren't dumb. if a dude had just cracked 49 HRs for them in 2019 and was having a bad year this season (yet still on pace to hit 34 HRs) i don't think they would hate him.

Kc61
08-04-2021, 01:27 PM
To be perfectly honest, I've never been super high on Senzel from the beginning. I've always wanted him to do well, but I guess I've never seen what others have. I always sort of thought that he was the #2 overall pick because it was a pretty lean draft year.

Like I said, at this point I don’t expect anyone to agree. It’s been frustrating with Nick. But he’s a talented player IMO, he doesn’t seem to have a chronic type injury (like bad knees, e.g.), and I’m still hopeful he can be a solid starting player for them. Just needs continuous playing time, if he can stay on the field.

Bruce Berenyi
08-04-2021, 01:28 PM
the reason they lack energy is because their "bullpen: has blown countless leads so whats the point of getting a lead

JFLegal
08-04-2021, 01:29 PM
Like I said, at this point I don’t expect anyone to agree. It’s been frustrating with Nick. But he’s a talented player IMO, he doesn’t have a repeating type injury (like bad knees, etc.), and I’m still hopeful he can be a solid starting player for them. Just needs continuous playing time, if he can stay on the field.

maybe not a repeating "injury" but in addition to having a litany of injuries (minor or otherwise) isn't the virtigo issue perhaps a long-term problem?

JFLegal
08-04-2021, 01:31 PM
basically an intentional walk to winker cause the pitcher wanted to face farmer.

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and farm diggity makes them pay!

Kc61
08-04-2021, 01:31 PM
Yea, I haven't given up on Senzel, but lowered expecations.
Hopefully, he's a late bloomer.
I wonder if Cast leaves, if they will try him in RF and try to get a CF.. probably not, but that sure would help the defense (assuming a good glove CF was added)

That’s exactly what I hope Reds will do if Cast leaves.

JFLegal
08-04-2021, 01:31 PM
LMAO @ the fireworks. Hahahah.

REDREAD
08-04-2021, 01:32 PM
Farmer comes through again :)

Regulus
08-04-2021, 01:33 PM
Awesome. Shogo might be the only Red who has the speed to score on that hit.

SomeCallMeTim
08-04-2021, 01:33 PM
Farmer comes through again :)

https://media0.giphy.com/media/3g8LQijDZYjN6/giphy.gif

JFLegal
08-04-2021, 01:34 PM
vottomatic! 3-1 good guys!

BluegrassRedleg
08-04-2021, 01:34 PM
Two-run oppo gapper for Votto. Nice to see him deliver vs LHP.


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Ironman92
08-04-2021, 01:35 PM
If you ask me when Farmer hits….Votto copies, just better [emoji16]

The part of the lineup supposed to getting it done…..they are

BCubb2003
08-04-2021, 01:35 PM
Are doubles considered bangs?

SomeCallMeTim
08-04-2021, 01:35 PM
Two-run oppo gapper for Votto. Nice to see him deliver vs LHP.


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That was textbook oppo slugging.

JFLegal
08-04-2021, 01:36 PM
Are doubles considered bangs?

i'll bang for a double.

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crazy legs votto! 4-1 reds.

Kc61
08-04-2021, 01:37 PM
Reds team does well coming off tough losses. I give Bell credit for that.

Mitri
08-04-2021, 01:37 PM
Cool inning. All started with my boi Shogo.

BluegrassRedleg
08-04-2021, 01:37 PM
Runs without homers!!!
Runs without homers!!!
Runs without homers!!!


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Ironman92
08-04-2021, 01:37 PM
Votto is funny slow but with 2 outs got the necessary jump!

It’s like his stride just stomps down and doesn’t drive forward…..but he’s the offensive leader of this slow team

Sassy Sal
08-04-2021, 01:38 PM
Votto is funny slow but with 2 outs got the necessary jump!

It’s like his stride just stomps down and doesn’t drive forward…..but he’s the offensive leader of this slow team

Their LF has one of the worst arms in recent memory.

mhs95_06
08-04-2021, 01:40 PM
Nice inning! Without the aid of a HR, they knocked in, with 2 out, every runner they had in scoring position, plus one from 1st base.

SomeCallMeTim
08-04-2021, 01:41 PM
Two more offensive innings like that, and I maybe I can enjoy my supper…

BCubb2003
08-04-2021, 01:42 PM
Reds team does well coming off tough losses. I give Bell credit for that.

I guess they need more tough losses.

SomeCallMeTim
08-04-2021, 01:42 PM
Good play kid.

Now this way to the exit.

Tom Servo
08-04-2021, 01:45 PM
I believe between last year and this year Luis Arraez is about 15 for 15 against the Reds.

Ironman92
08-04-2021, 01:47 PM
Lazy effort buy Geno

SomeCallMeTim
08-04-2021, 01:47 PM
I believe between last year and this year Luis Arraez is about 15 for 15 against the Reds.

He is the AL equivalent or Ian Happ or Conner Joe.

Powel Crosley
08-04-2021, 01:47 PM
I feel like Suarez or maybe Winker could have had that if they sprinted.

HammerTime
08-04-2021, 01:48 PM
So I guess they have energy again now that they scored? Funny how that just went away.

mhs95_06
08-04-2021, 01:48 PM
Suarez didn't go aggressive after that foul pop like he did the other night, and that hit off the tarp may be why he looks a little gimpy.

SomeCallMeTim
08-04-2021, 01:48 PM
I feel like Suarez or maybe Winker could have had that if they sprinted.

The wanted Luis to get the K…

mhs95_06
08-04-2021, 01:48 PM
Their LF has one of the worst arms in recent memory.

Shogo pretty close!

Sassy Sal
08-04-2021, 01:50 PM
76 pitches for Luis. Who we gonna be running out today?

SomeCallMeTim
08-04-2021, 01:51 PM
Suarez didn't go aggressive after that foul pop like he did the other night, and that hit off the tarp may be why he looks a little gimpy.

If we could somehow harvest all of the working parts of Moose, Suarez, Senzel, we might have one heck of a 3rd baseman.

mhs95_06
08-04-2021, 01:51 PM
Nice job stranding the lead-off double, and preserving the 3 run lead they earned last inning!

KittyDuran
08-04-2021, 01:54 PM
Playing hooky again! [emoji48]
At least they’re in the lead! [emoji41]⚾️
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SomeCallMeTim
08-04-2021, 01:56 PM
Playing hooky again! [emoji48]
At least they’re in the lead! [emoji41]⚾️
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Great seats, hey buddy?


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Regulus
08-04-2021, 01:56 PM
Aquino has been making some contact the last few games. Maybe he's coming around.

BluegrassRedleg
08-04-2021, 01:59 PM
India keeps on keepin’ on.


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JFLegal
08-04-2021, 01:59 PM
akiyama sets the table. ROY knocks him in. very nice.

Ironman92
08-04-2021, 02:00 PM
Johnathan India is better than you and me

AG Slater
08-04-2021, 02:00 PM
Aquino has been making some contact the last few games. Maybe he's coming around.
Pitchers make contact too

Regulus
08-04-2021, 02:00 PM
Maybe it's just me, but it seems like a while since India's gone with a pitch to hit it opposite field. Pulling the outside pitch worked that time, though.

AG Slater
08-04-2021, 02:01 PM
Need Castillo to go a solid 6-7 innings or a 10 run lead to feel safe

JFLegal
08-04-2021, 02:01 PM
Johnathan India is better than you and me

i mean, speak for yourself.

ok, and also for me.

Bruce Berenyi
08-04-2021, 02:01 PM
do you think hembree or doolittle should close

JFLegal
08-04-2021, 02:02 PM
Playing hooky again! [emoji48]
At least they’re in the lead! [emoji41]⚾️
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how are you not moving down to better seats? lmao

KittyDuran
08-04-2021, 02:05 PM
Great seats, hey buddy?


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My actual seat(s) are behind home plate view level. But they’re in the sun. [emoji274]


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KittyDuran
08-04-2021, 02:05 PM
how are you not moving down to better seats? lmao

Not a sun worshiper…[emoji41]


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SomeCallMeTim
08-04-2021, 02:09 PM
My actual seat(s) are behind home plate view level. But they’re in the sun. [emoji274]


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I remember sitting in Riverfront that high up and getting a science lesson. I learned how slow the speed of sound is when I saw the ball hit and heard it a quarter second later…

SomeCallMeTim
08-04-2021, 02:10 PM
Not a sun worshiper…[emoji41]


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So that means your not a ra-ra-ra type of fan?

SomeCallMeTim
08-04-2021, 02:15 PM
Time for Votto to resume his inner Ruth…

KittyDuran
08-04-2021, 02:18 PM
So that means your not a ra-ra-ra type of fan?

I’m a intense fan but not ra-ra-sis-boom-bah type. Stay pretty quiet and by myself. BTW there is a great breeze up here in the last row. [emoji74]


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VR
08-04-2021, 02:18 PM
This ump is horrific.

VR
08-04-2021, 02:20 PM
Stephenson doesn't get a ball in the zone and strikes out. To other teams credit.....their catchers are so much better at framing pitchers than Barny and Stephenson.

VR
08-04-2021, 02:23 PM
Minaya hasn't come close to a pitch completely inside the zone.

SomeCallMeTim
08-04-2021, 02:24 PM
I’m a intense fan but not ra-ra-sis-boom-bah type. Stay pretty quiet and by myself. BTW there is a great breeze up here in the last row. [emoji74]


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For August it is a nice day to be at the park.

Most miserable Reds game I ever attended was a day game in August against the Cards. Over 95 degrees and Arroyo got destroyed. We left after 6.

SomeCallMeTim
08-04-2021, 02:25 PM
Still waiting to see a ball punished. I miss those shot.

HammerTime
08-04-2021, 02:27 PM
I think we have seen enough to realize now Aquino is a 4-5th OF. Ready for Cast to be back!

Ky Fried Redleg
08-04-2021, 02:28 PM
This ump is horrific.

It has become commonplace in MLB. So, so bad!!! Rampant inconsistent ball/strike calls. Helping to ruin the game. When do we get rid of the human ump?

mhs95_06
08-04-2021, 02:29 PM
The 3 righties the Reds had stacked against the rookie lefty did nothing(3 Ks) against the righty reliever with two on and no out after Farmer and Votto got on to set up the inning.

AG Slater
08-04-2021, 02:31 PM
The 3 righties the Reds had stacked against the rookie lefty did nothing(3 Ks) against the righty reliever with two on and no out after Farmer and Votto got on to set up the inning.

Yeah but you gotta have the right left matchup. Bell is obsessed with it

KeefeCato
08-04-2021, 02:32 PM
For August it is a nice day to be at the park.

Most miserable Reds game I ever attended was a day game in August against the Cards. Over 95 degrees and Arroyo got destroyed. We left after 6.

Last Reds game I attended was Arroyo's last game in the majors. I knew before the game it would be his last. Writing had been on the wall for a while. Dodgers knocked him out early.

BluegrassRedleg
08-04-2021, 02:32 PM
Unique yessiree


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RedTeamGo!
08-04-2021, 02:33 PM
How bout the Farm dawg?

Ky Fried Redleg
08-04-2021, 02:33 PM
How many combined strikeouts would Geno and Aquino have if both batted four times a game, every game over a 162 game season? I say 400+ .

HammerTime
08-04-2021, 02:33 PM
Another great start for Castillo!

RedTeamGo!
08-04-2021, 02:33 PM
How many combined strikeouts would Geno and Aquino have if both batted four times a game, every game over a 162 game season? I say 400+ .

450 easily

Moonlite Graham
08-04-2021, 02:37 PM
For those watching on MLB TV.....do you have sound right now?

Have checked other games and have no sound on those either.

VR
08-04-2021, 02:40 PM
Update. India=Good.

Ironman92
08-04-2021, 02:44 PM
I love the USA but my 2nd favorite country is quickly becoming India

AG Slater
08-04-2021, 02:45 PM
How many combined strikeouts would Geno and Aquino have if both batted four times a game, every game over a 162 game season? I say 400+ .

1,372,937

Ironman92
08-04-2021, 02:47 PM
how are you not moving down to better seats? lmao

While I agree I have taken in several of these games and a few times we have moved around every inning….yes the game is farther away but the breeze and the view are tremendous and it’s very relaxing…..so while I’d be down there in the good seats by now, I understand staying there also.

TheBigLebowski
08-04-2021, 02:50 PM
If they hold on and win this game, it’s pretty commendable. Lost the bad one yesterday and had to rebound for one of these 12:35 starts, and the Twins’ offense is pretty good despite their record.

JFLegal
08-04-2021, 02:50 PM
reds are gonna "AG" their way into a close game.

JFLegal
08-04-2021, 02:52 PM
nice work. 2 outs.

Ironman92
08-04-2021, 02:55 PM
Amir wasn’t “on”….stuff was wild around the zone BUT, he didn’t give in and miss in the middle.

Hopefully Brach is “on”….or at least lucky

HammerTime
08-04-2021, 02:59 PM
There is really no scenario you can put AG at this point. Throw strikes.

JFLegal
08-04-2021, 02:59 PM
nice work to get out of that jam by brach.

SomeCallMeTim
08-04-2021, 03:00 PM
nice work to get out of that jam by brach.

Brach in business…

Ironman92
08-04-2021, 03:00 PM
Good movement, good job

I’d leave him in. Get a guy warning up with 2 outs this half

KeefeCato
08-04-2021, 03:01 PM
Justin Wilson has been good in the past and has looked okay so far in his couple Reds games. Was horrible before joining the Reds. Garrett we know can't be trusted to get big outs.
Besides CF this teams biggest off-season need is a quality late inning left hander.

Kc61
08-04-2021, 03:03 PM
Amir Garrett is number 3 best (lowest) among MLB relievers this season in contact rate out of the zone.

However, within the zone, he’s in the top third of contact allowed by relievers.

This probably explains his problem, in part. He’s dependent on getting hitters to chase. So he’s probably reluctant to throw strikes, leading to walks, and what follows.

AG Slater
08-04-2021, 03:04 PM
It's probably been discussed but why doesn't Votto have the C captain on his jersey. Is Larkin the last guy to have it?

JFLegal
08-04-2021, 03:05 PM
tysteve big fly!

Ironman92
08-04-2021, 03:05 PM
“Hits that one fairly well”

No feel man

AG Slater
08-04-2021, 03:06 PM
Imagine having a manager that benches Stephenson more than he plays him

Ironman92
08-04-2021, 03:06 PM
Good inning

VR
08-04-2021, 03:07 PM
Going to be a fun few years coming up for Reds fans. What an amazing young core these guys have.

KeefeCato
08-04-2021, 03:07 PM
Amir Garrett is number 3 best (lowest) among MLB relievers this season in contact rate out of the zone.

However, within the zone, he’s in the top third of contact allowed by relievers.

This probably explains his problem, in part. He’s dependent on getting hitters to chase. So he’s probably reluctant to throw strikes, leading to walks, and what follows.

He relies solely on getting hitters to swing at his slider in the dirt. Good hitters are not going to do that.Garrett is all but done as a major leaguer if he doesn't come up with a quality pitch that he can throw for strikes.

TheBigLebowski
08-04-2021, 03:07 PM
Wish I could have seen that. Stupid weekday matinees

Ky Fried Redleg
08-04-2021, 03:08 PM
If they hold on and win this game, it’s pretty commendable. Lost the bad one yesterday and had to rebound for one of these 12:35 starts, and the Twins’ offense is pretty good despite their record.



This team has shown itself to have incredible resiliency and a very strong constitution. They have bounced from several very tough gut punches. I just hate to see the manager repeatedly poop on a team like this with his doo doo moves.

SomeCallMeTim
08-04-2021, 03:08 PM
Between India and Stephenson sometimes I just…just….

https://media2.giphy.com/media/3o7TKR1XkNdTPgVfYA/giphy.gif

Love watch these guys play the game.

RedTeamGo!
08-04-2021, 03:08 PM
Currently looking up recreational cannabis stores for my trip to Michigan in a couple weekends.

Ohio sucks.

Ky Fried Redleg
08-04-2021, 03:10 PM
TySteve and India--- my gosh what a duo of good looking young players!!!

KeefeCato
08-04-2021, 03:10 PM
It's probably been discussed but why doesn't Votto have the C captain on his jersey. Is Larkin the last guy to have it?

Pretty sure Lark was the last. I think Lou appointed him Captain. Maybe Pete did ? Seems like for whatever reason most managers don't do that anymore. I may be wrong but doesn't the Yankees always have one? Or did that go away when Jeter retired?

Cop-A-Freel
08-04-2021, 03:11 PM
Since relievers can't go over 3 outs under Bell, who comes in after Brach gets the first 2 outs of this inning?

JFLegal
08-04-2021, 03:12 PM
this effing bullpen. up by 5 and can't throw strikes.

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Currently looking up recreational cannabis stores for my trip to Michigan in a couple weekends.

Ohio sucks.

PM me.

REDREAD
08-04-2021, 03:13 PM
I'm so glad we have a 5 run lead, otherwise this game would be nerve racking.

Cop-A-Freel
08-04-2021, 03:13 PM
Man, I can't believe how bad these relievers are. You're up by 5!!! THROW IT DOWN THE MIDDLE!!!

Ironman92
08-04-2021, 03:13 PM
Well….our two relievers have shown no control BUT so far have avoided missing over the plate

But 2 walks in unacceptable to start a 6-1 inning, this is the big leagues

BluegrassRedleg
08-04-2021, 03:13 PM
Sooner or later, you gotta send a message by cutting these guys who continue to do this.

JFLegal
08-04-2021, 03:14 PM
brach thinks someone will hit a 5-run HR

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it's almost like giving away your closer for free and then signing a bunch of scrubs to fill up the bullpen was not a good strategy.

HammerTime
08-04-2021, 03:15 PM
5 run lead and you walk first two batters on 9 pitches. WTF are we doing.

Ironman92
08-04-2021, 03:15 PM
Almost missed in the middle but big movement and slightly off saved him

KeefeCato
08-04-2021, 03:15 PM
Since relievers can't go over 3 outs under Bell, who comes in after Brach gets the first 2 outs of this inning?

I get only 60 games last year and all of that. Trying to protect arms. But if a guy gets a out to end a inning on 3 pitches. You would think he could go another. Then just not be used for couple three games.
Of course he brings Brach back out and he can't throw strikes.so maybe this wasn't a good move.

JFLegal
08-04-2021, 03:15 PM
bell has ideas. it's all good.

SomeCallMeTim
08-04-2021, 03:15 PM
Natives are expressing our BP sentiments. well done.

Ironman92
08-04-2021, 03:16 PM
Brach survives on players going out of the zone on him and Twins have had 3 great plate approaches as Brach falls down the BO depth chart

JFLegal
08-04-2021, 03:16 PM
5 run lead and you walk first two batters on 9 pitches. WTF are we doing.

and the worst part is none one of us are surprised.

AG Slater
08-04-2021, 03:16 PM
Brach, Garrett, doolittle, hendrix, hembree.
Revolving door of suck

NebraskaRed
08-04-2021, 03:16 PM
Petition for MLB to limit every game to 5 innings.

BCubb2003
08-04-2021, 03:16 PM
It’s a dilemma isn’t it? Throw strikes but don’t get hit especially after you’ve walked a bunch.

Ironman92
08-04-2021, 03:17 PM
bell has ideas. it's all good.

He’s been perfect so far today, this 100% on Amir and Brach

TexasRedsFan
08-04-2021, 03:17 PM
I propose $10,000 fines for every walk with less than 2 outs, 7th or later. $25,000 if they happen at GABP. Maybe that would help them focus?

VR
08-04-2021, 03:18 PM
A little surprised to see Brach stay in after two walks. Alas, I'm no manager.

Ky Fried Redleg
08-04-2021, 03:18 PM
this effing bullpen. up by 5 and can't throw strikes.

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Like I said last night, if a reliever comes in and walks the first two batters , he should be a removed after the third batter every time . Make a it a team rule. Gotta make a statement to these relievers that you can't walk batters.

KeefeCato
08-04-2021, 03:18 PM
Lorenzen pitches the 9th.

dakota42
08-04-2021, 03:19 PM
I'm so sick of this crap.

NebraskaRed
08-04-2021, 03:19 PM
Still no outs

JFLegal
08-04-2021, 03:20 PM
wow, now just a 2 run game. this effing ownership/front office. (could have said "bullpen" ... but guess whose fault that is?)

WildcatFan
08-04-2021, 03:20 PM
Can I just point out real quick how wild it is that the Bally app hasn't updated a SINGLE commercial since the beginning of the season? It's the same 12-15 every single game.

CySeymour
08-04-2021, 03:20 PM
Like I said last night, if a reliever comes in and walks the first two batters , he should be a removed after the third batter every time . Make a it a team rule. Gotta make a statement to these relievers that you can't walk batters.

They have to by rule face 3 batters.

Cop-A-Freel
08-04-2021, 03:20 PM
If they lose this one, I'm calling it a season.

Redsfan5
08-04-2021, 03:20 PM
Doo-Little could have do that


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JFLegal
08-04-2021, 03:20 PM
against a scrub team like the twins no less.

RedTeamGo!
08-04-2021, 03:20 PM
this effing bullpen. up by 5 and can't throw strikes.

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PM me.

Haha I can easily get it in OH. Just saying the lack of legal recreational here is dumb as hell.

KeefeCato
08-04-2021, 03:21 PM
Cessa seems like too much of a pitch to contact guy to be a good reliever. Ground ball DP are great.But you need to K hitters as well

REDREAD
08-04-2021, 03:21 PM
ok, now the game is nerve racking.

NebraskaRed
08-04-2021, 03:21 PM
Reds relievers just need to do the George Costanza thing and assume that every instinct they have is wrong and do the opposite.

Kc61
08-04-2021, 03:21 PM
Reds still lacking in lights out relievers. Lorenzen and Givens are the hottest relievers, the closest.

Maybe Santillan would help. Sims and Antone too.

JFLegal
08-04-2021, 03:21 PM
They have to by rule face 3 batters.

that's why he said after the 3rd batter

Ironman92
08-04-2021, 03:21 PM
Stephenson set up outside corner and Cessa missed inside and low on a lefty and it also likely kept Votto from getting there (assuming Reds pitch to positioning which I’m not sure they do

This so far has been 100% on the relievers.

JFLegal
08-04-2021, 03:22 PM
Haha I can easily get it in OH. Just saying the lack of legal recreational here is dumb as hell.

cool, just making sure mi amigo

and legal recreational is so overrated. much cheaper and just as good getting from friends.

SomeCallMeTim
08-04-2021, 03:22 PM
ok, now the game is nerve racking.

It was for me the minute Castillo was pulled.

RedTeamGo!
08-04-2021, 03:22 PM
brach thinks someone will hit a 5-run HR

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it's almost like giving away your closer for free and then signing a bunch of scrubs to fill up the bullpen was not a good strategy.

Iggy wouldn’t have been used up 6-1 in the 8th though

BluegrassRedleg
08-04-2021, 03:22 PM
This is just a disgrace.

Mitri
08-04-2021, 03:23 PM
Reds still lacking in lights out relievers. Lorenzen and Givens are the hottest relievers, the closest.

Maybe Santillan would help. Sims and Antone too.

Yeah, I'd get Santillan up ASAP. Hopefully Sims will be activated tomorrow.

There are a bunch of easy cuts to make, Krall give me a call if you need help making a decision.

Ironman92
08-04-2021, 03:23 PM
Missed over the middle….rip to LF

JFLegal
08-04-2021, 03:23 PM
1-run game. absolute trainwreck.

AG Slater
08-04-2021, 03:23 PM
No lead is safe.

BluegrassRedleg
08-04-2021, 03:24 PM
Castillo gonna lose another W.

Roy Tucker
08-04-2021, 03:24 PM
I don’t want to watch this.

NebraskaRed
08-04-2021, 03:24 PM
How excited every team must be when the Reds go to their bullpen.

JFLegal
08-04-2021, 03:24 PM
against the twins!

Kc61
08-04-2021, 03:24 PM
Yeah, I'd get Santillan up ASAP. Hopefully Sims will be activated tomorrow.

There are a bunch of easy cuts to make, Krall give me a call if you need help making a decision.

Not worried about cuts at all. Just need more guys who miss bats. That’s why Hembree get so much prominence. He isn’t great but he can strike guys out.

This bullpen thing is just becoming absurd with this team.

REDREAD
08-04-2021, 03:24 PM
Let's hope we can get another DP from Donaldson

Ironman92
08-04-2021, 03:24 PM
Is he going to potentially pitch Lorenzen this inning and next? If no I don’t see the double switch.

Redsfan5
08-04-2021, 03:25 PM
Double Switch DA @ it again


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mhs95_06
08-04-2021, 03:25 PM
Good movement, good job

I’d leave him in. Get a guy warning up with 2 outs this half

I agree, but it didn't work out too well!

JFLegal
08-04-2021, 03:25 PM
let's be real. we're all hoping/praying the reds make the playoffs ... and it would be awesome.

but then there would be a 100% chance we would get our heads ripped off by one of the playoff teams who are actually good. does anyone think even if this team could sneak in the playoffs they could actually do damage? i don't. far too many holes.

at least they've kept the season interesting though. this game being a prime example. lol

JP321
08-04-2021, 03:25 PM
So Bell took the heat last night.. and I'm sure he will today. These guys just aren't executing

Jomama
08-04-2021, 03:25 PM
Remember, we were told that Brach was a "solid middle relief option" by a guy who knows everything. So it must be true.

Hamilton95
08-04-2021, 03:25 PM
Absolutely 0 reason to have hembree, brach, doolittle, garrett on the team. Santillan needs to come back up. Sims should be ready. And fill the last spot or two with a minor leaguer until Antone and Warren are ready. Those four guys are washed up.

Ironman92
08-04-2021, 03:25 PM
Cessa seems like too much of a pitch to contact guy to be a good reliever. Ground ball DP are great.But you need to K hitters as well

He was missing targets. When he can work the edges he’s solid but he missed badly on 2 pitches and both got him

SomeCallMeTim
08-04-2021, 03:26 PM
Castillo gonna lose another W.

This bullpen is like playing Jenga.

Slowly pulling out a block out until it crumbles.

Kc61
08-04-2021, 03:26 PM
I think Lorenzen has to get five outs here. I guess Givens will have to pitch if Mike can’t get through.

Ironman92
08-04-2021, 03:26 PM
WVreds boy is in the game

HammerTime
08-04-2021, 03:26 PM
So Bell took the heat last night.. and I'm sure he will today. These guys just aren't executing

He can't even put guys in with a 5 run lead. I'm not sure what people expect him to do.

Ironman92
08-04-2021, 03:27 PM
Lucky

Cop-A-Freel
08-04-2021, 03:27 PM
So Bell took the heat last night.. and I'm sure he will today. These guys just aren't executing

As we see more and more of this, Bell is harder to blame. If not 1 reliever can get guys out, what is he supposed to do?

Mitri
08-04-2021, 03:28 PM
let's be real. we're all hoping/praying the reds make the playoffs ... and it would be awesome.

but then there would be a 100% chance we would get our heads ripped off by one of the playoff teams who are actually good. does anyone think even if this team could sneak in the playoffs they could actually do damage? i don't. far too many holes.

at least they've kept the season interesting though. this game being a prime example. lol

This team has one massive hole. That's about it.

JFLegal
08-04-2021, 03:29 PM
This team has one massive hole. That's about it.

bullpen, defense, baserunning.

Redsfan5
08-04-2021, 03:29 PM
Sit down Donaldson


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Ironman92
08-04-2021, 03:29 PM
He can't even put guys in with a 5 run lead. I'm not sure what people expect him to do.

He’s been pin point today…..that Doolittle loss was awful and he didn’t have any feel the next time with Hembree either.

NatiRedGals
08-04-2021, 03:29 PM
I won't blame this one on bell but it does seem weird to me how sometimes he pulls people and other times he just waits cessa obviously didn't have it

Cop-A-Freel
08-04-2021, 03:29 PM
We keep hearing how good of a clubhouse the Reds have. I truly believe that to be the case. But you gotta believe that when the bull pen guys are around, it can get pretty awkward because of how bad they've been.

REDREAD
08-04-2021, 03:30 PM
bad umping helps us there lol

Ironman92
08-04-2021, 03:30 PM
Sadak with the jinx

Kc61
08-04-2021, 03:30 PM
Sadak sees benefits from the bad pen work of some. It may cause a re-shuffling. Just announce the game, sir.

Ironman92
08-04-2021, 03:30 PM
Bell’s heart rate up to 55

JFLegal
08-04-2021, 03:31 PM
what a goddamn disaster

NebraskaRed
08-04-2021, 03:31 PM
Getting 3 outs is the hardest thing in the world this inning.

mhs95_06
08-04-2021, 03:32 PM
Iggy wouldn’t have been used up 6-1 in the 8th though

6-4 in the 8th, yes!

Powel Crosley
08-04-2021, 03:32 PM
Of course Sadak jumping the gun again and Lorenzen immediately gives up a hit.

Ironman92
08-04-2021, 03:32 PM
Reds continue to pitch lefties there will continue to burn them

He threw the pitch where it was called….I’m not blaming Lorenzen there.

HammerTime
08-04-2021, 03:32 PM
He’s been pin point today…..that Doolittle loss was awful and he didn’t have any feel the next time with Hembree either.

I’ll give you the Doolittle one, but there just isn’t anyone else to use.

Mitri
08-04-2021, 03:32 PM
bullpen, defense, baserunning.

3rd in the NL in runs. Who needs baserunning?

They're above average defensively, almost sneaky about it. Senzel and Moose will help.

Only real hole is 5th starter and like, all of the bullpen. It's frustrating, but don't drag the rest of the team down with its failures.

Ironman92
08-04-2021, 03:33 PM
I’ll give you the Doolittle one, but there just isn’t anyone else to use.

That’s why when a reliever looks great in the 6th….you pitch him in the 7th

JFLegal
08-04-2021, 03:33 PM
and somehow ... the reds still lead by 1.

TheBigLebowski
08-04-2021, 03:34 PM
Are you pro-Brach people ready to repent? He needs to be released asap.

Ironman92
08-04-2021, 03:34 PM
Lorenzen was great….he pitched to edges, changed speeds, eye levels….he pitched.

The double was the fault of whoever thought the pitch should be thrown there.

NebraskaRed
08-04-2021, 03:34 PM
https://media.giphy.com/media/GrUhLU9q3nyRG/giphy.gif

All of us that inning.

SomeCallMeTim
08-04-2021, 03:35 PM
Great.

Now we only need 3 more outs. What could POSSIBLY go wrong?!?!??

TexasRedsFan
08-04-2021, 03:35 PM
If you're unable to go right at guys with a 5 run lead, you don't belong in the majors.

REDREAD
08-04-2021, 03:35 PM
Sadak sees benefits from the bad pen work of some. It may cause a re-shuffling. Just announce the game, sir.

yes, that was an irritating comment by Sadak..

westofyou
08-04-2021, 03:35 PM
Go cal state fullerton baseball!

Strikes Out Looking
08-04-2021, 03:35 PM
A little surprised to see Brach stay in after two walks. Alas, I'm no manager.

Nor is David Bell

Griffey012
08-04-2021, 03:36 PM
Redemption time for Hembree cause it seems like a fitting Bell move

SomeCallMeTim
08-04-2021, 03:36 PM
https://media.giphy.com/media/GrUhLU9q3nyRG/giphy.gif

All of us that inning.

https://media0.giphy.com/media/3PsAFhVjUSdzy/giphy.gif
This has been me all year after the 6th.

Ironman92
08-04-2021, 03:36 PM
6-7 insurance runs would make most of us feel moderately comfortable

Ironman92
08-04-2021, 03:37 PM
Great hitting by AA

Kc61
08-04-2021, 03:37 PM
Pretty good chance Sims joins the Reds by tomorrow.

Bell/Krall may not even ask if he’s ready.

HammerTime
08-04-2021, 03:37 PM
Once again I'll ask.... Why is Sims not with the team yet?

If he pitches today in AAA I may lose it.