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Ron Madden
08-09-2021, 03:35 PM
Reds
1. Jonathan India (R) 2B
2. Jesse Winker (L) LF
3. Nick Castellanos (R) RF
4. Joey Votto (L) DH
5. Tyler Stephenson (R) 1B
6. Kyle Farmer (R) SS
7. Eugenio Suarez (R) 3B
8. Aristides Aquino (R) CF
9. Tucker Barnhart (L) C
SP Luis Castillo (R)


Indians
1. Myles Straw (R) CF
2. Amed Rosario (R) SS
3. Jose Ramirez (S) 3B
4. Franmil Reyes (R) DH
5. Harold Ramirez (R) LF
6. Bradley Zimmer (L) RF
7. Wilson Ramos (R) C
8. Owen Miller (R) 1B
9. Andres Gimenez (L) 2B
SP Sam Hentges (L)

RedsfaninMT
08-09-2021, 03:39 PM
I do believe it's time for Aquino to run into one.

Kc61
08-09-2021, 03:42 PM
Bell with the correct lineup IMO. Votto gets a semi-break, righties get to face the LHH.

Another lefty tomorrow, guessing Tyler catches, Joey back to first and somebody else gets the “semi-rest” of the DH spot. Maybe a middle infielder.

RiverfrontRed
08-09-2021, 03:42 PM
I do believe it's time for Aquino to run into one.

He's due.

klw
08-09-2021, 03:47 PM
Bell with the correct lineup IMO. Votto gets a semi-break, righties get to face the LHH.

Another lefty tomorrow, guessing Tyler catches, Joey back to first and somebody else gets the “semi-rest” of the DH spot. Maybe a middle infielder.

Don't they play the Braves tomorrow? Therefore no DH tomorrow.

VR
08-09-2021, 03:47 PM
Hentges has a 7.86 earnie. In his 8 starts, the longest he has gone is 5 innings. His overal WHIP is 2+. Hitters have a .340 average against him.

Pedal to the metal kind of day.

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Don't they play the Braves tomorrow? Therefore no DH tomorrow.

Yep.

KeefeCato
08-09-2021, 03:54 PM
Bell with the correct lineup IMO. Votto gets a semi-break, righties get to face the LHH.

Another lefty tomorrow, guessing Tyler catches, Joey back to first and somebody else gets the “semi-rest” of the DH spot. Maybe a middle infielder.
Possibly Moose at 3b Suarez DH tomorrow. Since Moose will have sat twice. Nvmd. NO DH Tomorrow.

Rojo Rijo
08-09-2021, 04:07 PM
Possibly Moose at 3b Suarez DH tomorrow. Since Moose will have sat twice. Nvmd. NO DH Tomorrow.

No DH tomorrow, only 1 game wit h Cleveland. Tomorrow starts a 3 game series in Atlanta

Kc61
08-09-2021, 04:08 PM
Yes, sorry about that. No DH tomorrow. I was trying to get somebody some rest, but I guess the schedule makers didn’t cooperate.

Tyler Steve catches tomorrow and we’ll see what else.

DocRed
08-09-2021, 04:09 PM
I'm surprised Bell went with Tucker instead of Moose. Moose has already said in an interview that he is a terrible bench player. I woulda put Moose in and let Tyler catch. Unless the thought is that this pitcher won't last more than a few inning...then you could put Moose in vs a RHP. Moose career OPS vs LHP is a respectable .713 compared to .770 vs RHP

Ironman92
08-09-2021, 04:11 PM
I hope we keep it going. The Bleh Indians feel like the type we might go cold on as we are all getting pretty excited and the baseball gods aren’t always fair.

I’ll gladly be wrong.

Tadasimha
08-09-2021, 04:13 PM
This lineup looks capable of monster numbers against this pitcher - so a tight 1-0 game is what will probably happen. Prove me wrong, Reds!

Ironman92
08-09-2021, 04:22 PM
If they continue their good approaches they’ll hit….

redsfan9988
08-09-2021, 04:38 PM
Predictions!

India homers and reaches twice
Stephenson has 2 hits and at least 1 is xbh
Castillo dominates. 7 IP 1 R
Farmer goes 0fer for the first time in a while
The Guardians are on the decline, and look disinterested in a one-off game
Reds win 7-1

Ironman92
08-09-2021, 04:43 PM
Predictions!

India homers and reaches twice
Stephenson has 2 hits and at least 1 is xbh
Castillo dominates. 7 IP 1 R
Farmer goes 0fer for the first time in a while
The Guardians are on the decline, and look disinterested in a one-off game
Reds win 7-1

Farmer 2-4…..if 0’fer you get 46% of the blame

NC-Red
08-09-2021, 04:56 PM
Please smash these stupid F**Ks

Alf_Red_E
08-09-2021, 05:06 PM
Recent outcomes have proven the success of my 'Score more than the opposition' strategy.

After all, if IS the biggest game of the year... and we have been waiting months for this opportunity against the Galaxies

RollyInRaleigh
08-09-2021, 05:18 PM
Weather looks not so good...


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Ironman92
08-09-2021, 05:46 PM
Won’t be starting on time I assume…maybe closer to 8

KeefeCato
08-09-2021, 06:04 PM
Won’t be starting on time I assume…maybe closer to 8

Figures. Finally get a 6pm scheduled start and it rains.

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Brewers and Cubs game weather doesn't look great either.

Ironman92
08-09-2021, 06:12 PM
Guess I was wrong….but bad weather is close. Stopping the game early would benefit Cleveland and their bullpen day as a starter

coryfly
08-09-2021, 06:12 PM
On base machine starts the game off right.


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Tadasimha
08-09-2021, 06:12 PM
Leadoff 4 pitch walk for India

membengal
08-09-2021, 06:17 PM
i did NOT realize that was a 6:00 start. Ooops.

coryfly
08-09-2021, 06:18 PM
Great swing from Votto.


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SomeCallMeTim
08-09-2021, 06:21 PM
All aboard the Votto train.

Express line to the playoffs.

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BUTLER REDSFAN
08-09-2021, 06:21 PM
Just for the record.

I hate the phrase BASE KNOCK.....ARGH......

Tadasimha
08-09-2021, 06:23 PM
Just for the record.

I hate the phrase BASE KNOCK.....ARGH......

All your base knocks belong to us

Ironman92
08-09-2021, 06:25 PM
That guy looks not fun for lefties….fortunately hot Joey doesn’t see lefty/righty

Ironman92
08-09-2021, 06:25 PM
Here come the Luckindians….can’t beat em

JP321
08-09-2021, 06:26 PM
Castillo in a jam already... and not really much he can do about it

TheBigLebowski
08-09-2021, 06:28 PM
Nice toss Big Pun

VR
08-09-2021, 06:31 PM
Not good footwork there at all by India.

JP321
08-09-2021, 06:32 PM
India finally got caught with his footwork on DP ball

VR
08-09-2021, 06:32 PM
Castillo in a jam already... and not really much he can do about it

A whole lot of activity....first and third with no outs. Only 1 run, and importantly.....only 14 pitches to get through it.

Ironman92
08-09-2021, 06:32 PM
Horse crap….would’ve been easy DP on slow Reyes but runner off 1st runs well and India couldn’t get his foot off bag before he got there.

Nothing dirty about it in any way.

NC-Red
08-09-2021, 06:33 PM
Here come the Luckindians….can’t beat em

Nope, they absolutely own Cincinnati for a reason. They can have a worse team and still out perform the Reds. I don’t expect much from the Reds offense today either

VR
08-09-2021, 06:34 PM
Horse crap….would’ve been easy DP on slow Reyes but runner off 1st runs well and India couldn’t get his foot off bag before he got there.

Nothing dirty about it in any way.

Nah, totally clean. We've been so fortunate to have India play second the way he has. A rookie mistake once in a while is expected....and you know he'll grind to get better at it.

mhs95_06
08-09-2021, 06:37 PM
Not able to see the game tonight! Apparently isn't showing a re-scheduled rain out. It is on Bally Sports?

coryfly
08-09-2021, 06:38 PM
Not able to see the game tonight! Apparently isn't showing a re-scheduled rain out. It is on Bally Sports?

Yeah.


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TheBigLebowski
08-09-2021, 06:38 PM
Suarez is painful to watch.

Even these Cleveland announcers see he’s HR or nothing each ab.

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Not able to see the game tonight! Apparently isn't showing a re-scheduled rain out. It is on Bally Sports?

I’m watching on my hulu account.

mhs95_06
08-09-2021, 06:39 PM
Horse crap….would’ve been easy DP on slow Reyes but runner off 1st runs well and India couldn’t get his foot off bag before he got there.

Nothing dirty about it in any way.

Brantley said the runner coming in trapped India's left foot on the slide, not allowing him to step and throw to first. I wonder if that was intended by the runner.

BCubb2003
08-09-2021, 06:40 PM
Tucker has the heart of a barn.

NC-Red
08-09-2021, 06:41 PM
Lack of base running speed is a real thing for the Reds. Just no speed anywhere

TheBigLebowski
08-09-2021, 06:41 PM
Suarez went into the box, farted 3 times and left. Next 2 hitters with clean singles.

He’s a black hole.

Ironman92
08-09-2021, 06:42 PM
Not able to see the game tonight! Apparently isn't showing a re-scheduled rain out. It is on Bally Sports?

It’s on Bally… I have spectrum

TheBigLebowski
08-09-2021, 06:43 PM
Lack of base running speed is a real thing for the Reds. Just no speed anywhere

Suarez makes a pretty quick beeline back to the dugout. May be more efficient than fast.

Ironman92
08-09-2021, 06:43 PM
Brantley said the runner coming in trapped India's left foot on the slide, not allowing him to step and throw to first. I wonder if that was intended by the runner.

It was so fast….I highly doubt it. India’s foot was where the runner’s foot was trying to get.

NC-Red
08-09-2021, 06:44 PM
Suarez makes a pretty quick beeline back to the dugout. May be more efficient than fast.

Yes but our leadoff guy just got out on a double play and wasn’t close. Just no speed anywhere. Indians have 3 times the speed the Reds have

redsfan9988
08-09-2021, 06:45 PM
India GIDP… it took my drunk a** 30 seconds to figure out why Castillo wasn’t batting. I went in to a panic. Is he hurt? Oh no!

Guess I have to get used to it for next year.

AG Slater
08-09-2021, 06:47 PM
Let's hope this isn't spring time Castillo. I like Summer Castillo much better

Red Raindog
08-09-2021, 06:50 PM
Suboptimal


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coryfly
08-09-2021, 06:50 PM
Game sets up great for the Reds. Crappy pitcher versus Castillo. Sucks to come out like this but at least it is early.


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NC-Red
08-09-2021, 06:51 PM
I remember people told me earlier this season that the Indians don’t own the Reds. I beg to differ, they own the Reds moreso than any team in the NL. They just take this rivalry much more serious and it shows

dakota42
08-09-2021, 06:52 PM
Castillo not good tonight.

mhs95_06
08-09-2021, 06:53 PM
Suarez went into the box, farted 3 times and left. Next 2 hitters with clean singles.

He’s a black hole.

He's still in the Norwood Lateral Zone between I71 and I75.

AG Slater
08-09-2021, 06:54 PM
I remember people told me earlier this season that the Indians don’t own the Reds. I beg to differ, they own the Reds moreso than any team in the NL. They just take this rivalry much more serious and it shows

They have for a while

NC-Red
08-09-2021, 06:54 PM
Castillo not good tonight.

Wouldn’t matter who we pitch. Cleveland would hammer them like they always do

AG Slater
08-09-2021, 06:55 PM
He's still in the Norwood Lateral Zone between I71 and I75.

Yeah but Moose is a lefty guys come on. Gotta play the guy who whiffs every AB

Banshee
08-09-2021, 06:55 PM
Castillo not a mudder confirmed.

Mitri
08-09-2021, 06:55 PM
This Cleveland team is sort of annoying and punky. I'd like to see more inside pitches and hard slides back at them.

They better grind out a win here.

SomeCallMeTim
08-09-2021, 06:59 PM
Lets hope the winds of lead changes are a blowin…

AG Slater
08-09-2021, 07:01 PM
I also have spectrum and it's super choppy and freezing in this game.

NC-Red
08-09-2021, 07:04 PM
If the Indians played in the NL central they would have just as good if not a better record than the Reds. Their team is just built better with a better owner

KeefeCato
08-09-2021, 07:07 PM
If the Indians played in the NL central they would have just as good if not a better record than the Reds. Their team is just built better with a better owner

Then go root for them.

BCubb2003
08-09-2021, 07:09 PM
Jonathan Guardia.

coryfly
08-09-2021, 07:10 PM
Leadoff on again. Reds looking like a team that just flew in. Can't pitch or field it seems.

membengal
08-09-2021, 07:10 PM
We look like clowns out there tonight. Almost literally.

Red Raindog
08-09-2021, 07:10 PM
This is not looking very good tonight


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dakota42
08-09-2021, 07:11 PM
The Reds better get it together or it will be a blow out.

AG Slater
08-09-2021, 07:11 PM
Get Castillo outta this game while they can keep it within striking distance

NC-Red
08-09-2021, 07:11 PM
Then go root for them.

Ummm no, they are my most hated team. However, what I speak is the truth.

BCubb2003
08-09-2021, 07:11 PM
Franchester Reyes.

RedTeamGo!
08-09-2021, 07:11 PM
Well, I suppose Castillo was due for a stinker

Ky Fried Redleg
08-09-2021, 07:12 PM
These are not your grand daddy's Guardians ....

SomeCallMeTim
08-09-2021, 07:12 PM
Castillo being spring Castillo. Missing up in the zone.

Larkin Fan
08-09-2021, 07:12 PM
I do believe it's time for Aquino to run into one.

By "one", did you mean a wall?

NC-Red
08-09-2021, 07:12 PM
Until the Reds can start beating Cleveland more consistently they will continue to be the laughing stock of Ohio. Cleveland’s fan base mocks and looks down on Cincinnati and for good reason

Tom Servo
08-09-2021, 07:13 PM
Until the Reds can start beating Cleveland more consistently they will continue to be the laughing stock of Ohio. Cleveland’s fan base mocks and looks down on Cincinnati and for good reason
Nobody cares man

RedTeamGo!
08-09-2021, 07:13 PM
If the Indians played in the NL central they would have just as good if not a better record than the Reds. Their team is just built better with a better owner

Better owner????!! LOL

I agree Cast is terrible, but I don’t think you understand how despised Dolan is for being insanely cheap in the city of cleveland. There have been multiple occasions where they were on the cusp after a very good season and they trade away excellent players.

JP321
08-09-2021, 07:13 PM
Game certainly not over, but you aren't going to play great baseball every night. Tonight seems like one of those nights

RedTeamGo!
08-09-2021, 07:14 PM
Until the Reds can start beating Cleveland more consistently they will continue to be the laughing stock of Ohio. Cleveland’s fan base mocks and looks down on Cincinnati and for good reason

I live in Cleveland, you legit have no clue what you are talking about. The only thing that is a laughingstock is your posts on this subject.

BCubb2003
08-09-2021, 07:14 PM
Not La Piedra Hall of Fame.

KeefeCato
08-09-2021, 07:15 PM
Until the Reds can start beating Cleveland more consistently they will continue to be the laughing stock of Ohio. Cleveland’s fan base mocks and looks down on Cincinnati and for good reason
Most Cleveland and Reds fans couldn't care less about this made up rivalry or the stupid made up Ohio cup. Most think interleague play sucks.

redsfan9988
08-09-2021, 07:16 PM
Until the Reds can start beating Cleveland more consistently they will continue to be the laughing stock of Ohio. Cleveland’s fan base mocks and looks down on Cincinnati and for good reason

Oh no! I certainly wouldn’t want Cleveland sports fans to think less of me!

membengal
08-09-2021, 07:18 PM
Someone putting pins in a Reds voodoo doll tonight?

dakota42
08-09-2021, 07:19 PM
This is a sorry effort so far.

mhs95_06
08-09-2021, 07:19 PM
Once you take the force off, need to try for the out at home.

Tom Servo
08-09-2021, 07:19 PM
Pitches up in the zone + lots of contact is not a recipe for success for Luis

mhs95_06
08-09-2021, 07:20 PM
How much is the wet weather affecting Castillo?

Mitri
08-09-2021, 07:22 PM
I would just politely pull Castillo. Go to the bullpen. They shouldn't even be playing in this rain.

KeefeCato
08-09-2021, 07:22 PM
Do they even have Hoffman up yet?

Tony Cloninger
08-09-2021, 07:23 PM
Until the Reds can start beating Cleveland more consistently they will continue to be the laughing stock of Ohio. Cleveland’s fan base mocks and looks down on Cincinnati and for good reason

I wish you were stock I could bet on to come in here and be miserable. Sylvia Plath had more fun writing than you.

Mitri
08-09-2021, 07:23 PM
At this point I'll be glad to get out of this game without an injury.

KeefeCato
08-09-2021, 07:24 PM
At this point I'll be glad to get out of this game without an injury.

I am worried something is wrong with Luis now.

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Bring Hoffman out next inning.

Tom Servo
08-09-2021, 07:25 PM
I would just politely pull Castillo. Go to the bullpen. They shouldn't even be playing in this rain.
Problem is it means going to Hoffman

WildcatFan
08-09-2021, 07:25 PM
One ball out of the infield that inning. Unfun.

Mitri
08-09-2021, 07:26 PM
Problem is it means going to Hoffman

Good point. Not my favorite pitcher.

KeefeCato
08-09-2021, 07:26 PM
Problem is it means going to Hoffman

I am not sure he would do much worse the way things are going for Castillo tonight.

Red Raindog
08-09-2021, 07:26 PM
I am worried something is wrong with Luis now.

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Bring Hoffman out next inning.

I’m sitting here feeling like Hoffman actually started this game and not Castillo


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NC-Red
08-09-2021, 07:27 PM
I live in Cleveland, you legit have no clue what you are talking about. The only thing that is a laughingstock is your posts on this subject.

They consistently have better teams than the Reds do and actually have won postseason games. Something the Reds haven’t done since 1995

WildcatFan
08-09-2021, 07:27 PM
I would very much like to see Moose in next time Suarez’s spot comes around.

KeefeCato
08-09-2021, 07:27 PM
Castillo clearly doesn't have it. No sense in him throwing a pile of pitches. Give him a breather and hope the bats come to life.

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They consistently have better teams than the Reds do and actually have won postseason games. Something the Reds haven’t done since 1995

Not one Reds fan here doesn't know that fact. Yet every time you come in here you love to bring it up.

SomeCallMeTim
08-09-2021, 07:29 PM
I would very much like to see Moose in next time Suarez’s spot comes around.

Probably won’t risk Moose on a slippery field. May PH, but not sure I’d risk it.

NC-Red
08-09-2021, 07:29 PM
This isn’t an NL central team the Reds are playing anymore, Reds are actually gonna have to earn their runs vs playing tee ball like they did vs the Bucs

Ky Fried Redleg
08-09-2021, 07:29 PM
Well, at least we can count on the Cubs and Marlins to help us out tonight. :rolleyes:

Tom Servo
08-09-2021, 07:31 PM
I would very much like to see Moose in next time Suarez’s spot comes around.
Yeah I wish they’d pull the pull all together on starting Suarez other than for rest purposes, I don’t see the point in a platoon when Moose can hit lefties.

KeefeCato
08-09-2021, 07:32 PM
This isn’t an NL central team the Reds are playing anymore, Reds are actually gonna have to earn their runs vs playing tee ball like they did vs the Bucs

OHHH The BIG BAD AL Central is sooo tough. One team with a winning record.

SomeCallMeTim
08-09-2021, 07:32 PM
Well, at least we can count on the Cubs and Marlins to help us out tonight. :rolleyes:

Cubs will just be happy not to be facing the Sox.

NC-Red
08-09-2021, 07:33 PM
Reds players just can’t get under these pitches well enough to drive them out. Ramos had no issue though

BluegrassRedleg
08-09-2021, 07:33 PM
This has the feel of "one of those nights."

NC-Red
08-09-2021, 07:34 PM
OHHH The BIG BAD AL Central is sooo tough. One team with a winning record.

AL Central definitely sucks but they are still better than the NL central.

Falls City Beer
08-09-2021, 07:34 PM
OHHH The BIG BAD AL Central is sooo tough. One team with a winning record.

I think Cleveland is a better team than their record.

KeefeCato
08-09-2021, 07:34 PM
Reds players just can’t get under these pitches well enough to drive them out. Ramos had no issue though

But Ramos has always been a NL East guy up till a few days ago. So much for AL Central.

Ky Fried Redleg
08-09-2021, 07:35 PM
Folks, it kinda feels like one of those nights. Balls almost out of the park but caught at the fence, etc. , etc.

bgknck44
08-09-2021, 07:35 PM
So happy you can block people on here.

BluegrassRedleg
08-09-2021, 07:36 PM
I think Cleveland is a better team than their record.

They've been no-hit twice, haven't they? 21st in runs scored, 15th in runs allowed.

Larkin Fan
08-09-2021, 07:38 PM
Is Bell asleep?

WildcatFan
08-09-2021, 07:39 PM
Yea go get him.

NC-Red
08-09-2021, 07:39 PM
Would any Red have scored from first base on that double like that Indians player just did? I highly doubt it. Lack of team speed is a real thing

Tom Servo
08-09-2021, 07:39 PM
Luis and the Reds

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NC-Red
08-09-2021, 07:40 PM
Don’t care what the records say, Cleveland is a much better team than Cincinnati once again.

Tom Servo
08-09-2021, 07:40 PM
Don’t care what the records say, Cleveland is a much better team than Cincinnati once again.
Moron.

Larkin Fan
08-09-2021, 07:40 PM
Wow.

Ironman92
08-09-2021, 07:40 PM
I hate to sound like the Debbie downers from April-June but this game it isn’t working. We are on opposite ends of the luck spectrum, Castillo not controlling the zone. Defense can’t finish plays and to top it off, my worry….our plate approaches haven’t been good.

Winker on, Castellanos up 2-1 and swings at ball 3 and then again at ball for a strikeouts out when he would’ve been on base ….should’ve been 1st and 2nd no outs for Votto

Then Stephenson a tremendous AB and ump screws him bad.

Larkin Fan
08-09-2021, 07:41 PM
Now Bell comes out.

WildcatFan
08-09-2021, 07:41 PM
Good lord Jose Ramirez rakes.

Tom Servo
08-09-2021, 07:42 PM
When your starter gives up 8 runs you're probably gonna lose, small miscues or not.

I understand sending Luis out for the fourth but run #6 should have been the end of the line.

Ironman92
08-09-2021, 07:43 PM
Ok Luis…..get ready for the next start and get back going.

Brach, Doolittle and Naquin should pitch this game out

TheBigLebowski
08-09-2021, 07:43 PM
So this turned ugly fast.

Tadasimha
08-09-2021, 07:43 PM
Moron.

He actually wants them to be bad - the opposite of a front runner

WildcatFan
08-09-2021, 07:43 PM
I wanted the Ohio Cup so bad I’m shaking.

Wonderful Monds
08-09-2021, 07:43 PM
Yeah they’re getting stomped, whatever it happens, I think I’m more annoyed by platooning Geno with Moose tonight. I understood him sitting yesterday, I don’t really have any patience for it all past that.

If Bell continues to play Suarez even just against LHP, I question his will to do what it takes to win.

Ironman92
08-09-2021, 07:44 PM
Well Jeff……can you give us 3-4 innings?

Ky Fried Redleg
08-09-2021, 07:44 PM
It's called baseball , folks. Don't even try to figure this game out. You just never know...

TheBigLebowski
08-09-2021, 07:45 PM
8 ER for Luis in 3.1 IP.

Please do not let this be the return of bad Luis.

WildcatFan
08-09-2021, 07:45 PM
It's called baseball , folks. Don't even try to figure this game out. You just never know...

You’ve been a nice addition to the board, kudos.

Griffey012
08-09-2021, 07:45 PM
This feels extra weird because the reds have been ahead or at least close almost every inning lately

Tadasimha
08-09-2021, 07:46 PM
This lineup looks capable of monster numbers against this pitcher - so a tight 1-0 game is what will probably happen. Prove me wrong, Reds!

This really wasn't what I meant, guys!

Baseball, oy

KeefeCato
08-09-2021, 07:46 PM
Ok Luis…..get ready for the next start and get back going.

Brach, Doolittle and Naquin should pitch this game out

Not going to see Brach.

Tony Cloninger
08-09-2021, 07:48 PM
So happy you can block people on here.

No blocking is no fun. Feel their pain. Let their anger flow through you like a bad burrito.

RedTeamGo!
08-09-2021, 07:48 PM
Bell is such an idiot for leaving Castillo in that long.

NC-Red
08-09-2021, 07:49 PM
Moron.

They’ve out scored the Reds 17-3 in the last two meetings. That isn’t a coincidence

Sassy Sal
08-09-2021, 07:49 PM
Well, these game are going to happen once in a while. However, I don't think they will be doing this novel travel routine again.

Strikes Out Looking
08-09-2021, 07:49 PM
Yeah they’re getting stomped, whatever it happens, I think I’m more annoyed by platooning Geno with Moose tonight. I understood him sitting yesterday, I don’t really have any patience for it all past that.

If Bell continues to play Suarez even just against LHP, I question his will to do what it takes to win.

If Brach can have an impinged shoulder, I'm sure there is a diagnosis to put Geno on the DL for 10 days, let Schrock be the back up and play Moose everyday.

Tom Servo
08-09-2021, 07:50 PM
Bell is such an idiot for leaving Castillo in that long.
Can't burn through your bullpen when you've got no off days for two weeks.

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They’ve out scored the Reds 17-3 in the last two meetings. That isn’t a coincidence
You're the "Cleveland is our biggest rival" guy, right? I'm standing by my reply.

RedTeamGo!
08-09-2021, 07:51 PM
Can't burn through your bullpen when you've got no off days for two weeks.

Why is Hoffman on the team? For a game like tonight. Should have entered bottom 4

mhs95_06
08-09-2021, 07:51 PM
I hate to sound like the Debbie downers from April-June but this game it isn’t working. We are on opposite ends of the luck spectrum, Castillo not controlling the zone. Defense can’t finish plays and to top it off, my worry….our plate approaches haven’t been good.

Winker on, Castellanos up 2-1 and swings at ball 3 and then again at ball for a strikeouts out when he would’ve been on base ….should’ve been 1st and 2nd no outs for Votto

Then Stephenson a tremendous AB and ump screws him bad.

Yes, changes to plate approaches are most worrisome. Have got to get in the correct mindset and will yourselves to stay there with the temptation to try to slug it!

NC-Red
08-09-2021, 07:51 PM
Bell is such an idiot for leaving Castillo in that long.

Can’t blame Bell for Castillo being a garbage pitcher.

Ky Fried Redleg
08-09-2021, 07:51 PM
You’ve been a nice addition to the board, kudos.

Thank you so much. I really appreciate that. I'm glad I found you guys. Most knowledgable baseball fans I've ever encountered(minus anyone who think the Guardians are a much better team than the Reds...lol).

mhs95_06
08-09-2021, 07:52 PM
Why is Hoffman on the team? For a game like tonight. Should have entered bottom 4

Had to wait for the rain to pass. Couldn't afford to bring him in and then have a delay.

WildcatFan
08-09-2021, 07:52 PM
If Brach can have an impinged shoulder, I'm sure there is a diagnosis to put Geno on the DL for 10 days, let Schrock be the back up and play Moose everyday.

SUAREZ: Shoot it to me straight, Doc. I need to know.

KREMCHEK: There’s no easy way to say this, son. It’s….it’s bad vibes.

AG Slater
08-09-2021, 07:53 PM
Such a waste of a game.

Tom Servo
08-09-2021, 07:53 PM
Why is Hoffman on the team? For a game like tonight. Should have entered bottom 4
Yeah but what if Sonny gets blasted or hurt tomorrow and has to leave early, then what do you do?

Like I said I think should have yanked Castillo after run #6, but as Big Klu is fond of saying this isn't a video game. Sometimes you need innings and outs from guys, I don't think Bell is a moron for hoping Castillo could finish 4 damn innings.

Tony Cloninger
08-09-2021, 07:53 PM
What this team needs on a day like this is Dr. Spaceman.

Wonderful Monds
08-09-2021, 07:54 PM
Can’t blame Bell for Castillo being a garbage pitcher.

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/399/667/664.jpg

kaldaniels
08-09-2021, 07:54 PM
Yeah but what if Sonny gets blasted or hurt tomorrow and has to leave early, then what do you do?

Like I said I think should have yanked Castillo after run #6, but as Big Klu is fond of saying this isn't a video game. Sometimes you need innings and outs from guys, I don't think Bell is a moron for hoping Castillo could finish 4 damn innings.

Just got here. So that’s how it’s going…

Ky Fried Redleg
08-09-2021, 07:54 PM
They’ve out scored the Reds 17-3 in the last two meetings. That isn’t a coincidence

In statistics, we call that a very small sample size, my friend. NOT statistically significant!!! Just sayin'...

redsfan9988
08-09-2021, 07:55 PM
One of those nights. Their trash lineup won’t score 8 runs in the next 4 games. Win 2 of 3 in ATL and Philly and all will be forgiven. 4-3 is fine for this trip and it’s still on the table.

WildcatFan
08-09-2021, 07:56 PM
Thank you so much. I really appreciate that. I'm glad I found you guys. Most knowledgable baseball fans I've ever encountered(minus anyone who think the Guardians are a much better team than the Reds...lol).

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Boston Red
08-09-2021, 07:57 PM
We could still put up a couple of crooked number and make this thing interesting. 15 outs to get still.

Tom Servo
08-09-2021, 07:57 PM
India leadoff double the comeback is on!!

redsfan9988
08-09-2021, 07:57 PM
Well, these game are going to happen once in a while. However, I don't think they will be doing this novel travel routine again.

I would say that’s the textbook definition of a coincidence.

Ky Fried Redleg
08-09-2021, 08:00 PM
We could still put up a couple of crooked number and make this thing interesting. 15 outs to get still.

This team has shown that it doesn't give up. SO I'm not going to.

Tom Servo
08-09-2021, 08:00 PM
oh Blake Parker's still around. good for him.

Sassy Sal
08-09-2021, 08:02 PM
I would say that’s the textbook definition of a coincidence.

Maybe. Or maybe not.

coryfly
08-09-2021, 08:03 PM
Good smack by Winker. Bad pitching and bad defense has been a problem but some luck/breaks haven't helped much either.

Tom Servo
08-09-2021, 08:05 PM
I would say that’s the textbook definition of a coincidence.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/iOj_Xq4RUqI/maxresdefault.jpg

There is no such thing as a coincidence.

NC-Red
08-09-2021, 08:05 PM
For being such a good hitter Castellanos has some God awful plate discipline. He could go to the school of Votto on taking more pitches

WildcatFan
08-09-2021, 08:05 PM
Here they come.

NC-Red
08-09-2021, 08:07 PM
In statistics, we call that a very small sample size, my friend. NOT statistically significant!!! Just sayin'...

Ok well go check the overall record between these two teams then. There’s your large sample size!

Tadasimha
08-09-2021, 08:07 PM
Here they come.

Couple more next couple innings and it's got potential

Ironman92
08-09-2021, 08:14 PM
Down 8-1 in the 4th….go to Jeff Hoffman

Going to the 14th inning…..go to Jeff Hoffman

This is exactly the reason he’s on the squad. Fortunately they are good enough to rarely need him. If he can get them to the 8th that will be huge.

Ironman92
08-09-2021, 08:16 PM
Dang….he just struck out Rogers Hornsby

coryfly
08-09-2021, 08:16 PM
Yeah, Hoffman doing exactly what he is needed to do. Doing more actually.

Kc61
08-09-2021, 08:18 PM
This kind of game is exactly why I think Reds will hold onto Jeff Hoffman.

Reds have a pretty tough week ahead, at Atlanta and Philly. Need to save the pen tonight as much as possible.

NC-Red
08-09-2021, 08:22 PM
Lol…..

Ironman92
08-09-2021, 08:22 PM
This is awful. No luck at all.

Ironman92
08-09-2021, 08:26 PM
Dang….now gets out Stan Musial

Ironman92
08-09-2021, 08:28 PM
Gets Frank Thomas on a long fly out

Ironman92
08-09-2021, 08:31 PM
Hoffman shuts down Paul Molitor to end the inning

Tadasimha
08-09-2021, 08:33 PM
Dang….he just struck out Rogers Hornsby


Dang….now gets out Stan Musial


Gets Frank Thomas on a long fly out


Hoffman shuts down Paul Molitor to end the inning

:laugh::confused:

Big Klu
08-09-2021, 08:34 PM
Gets Frank Thomas on a long fly out

https://sabr.org/sites/default/files/frank%20thomas%20pit.png

VR
08-09-2021, 08:36 PM
Just saw on the twitter that Castillo's ERA with Barnhart in his career is close to 6.....with all others it's close to 3.

VR
08-09-2021, 08:39 PM
Just saw on the twitter that Castillo's ERA with Barnhart in his career is close to 6.....with all others it's close to 3.

21
Barny: 6.13
TSteve:2.18

20
Barny: 5.33
Casali: 2.01

19
Barny: 3.66
Casali:3.10

18
Barny: 5.24
Casali: 2.30

Pretty crazy.

VR
08-09-2021, 08:42 PM
21
Barny: 6.13
TSteve:2.18

20
Barny: 5.33
Casali: 2.01

19
Barny: 3.66
Casali:3.10

18
Barny: 5.24
Casali: 2.30

Pretty crazy.

Prolly close to 5 something and 2 something....but still. Wow.

Moonlite Graham
08-09-2021, 08:42 PM
Thats not crazy....thats four years of data that cant be ignored for future starts.

Ironman92
08-09-2021, 08:44 PM
Took Hoffman out why?

Larkin Fan
08-09-2021, 08:45 PM
This is one of those games...

Ironman92
08-09-2021, 08:45 PM
471 ft

Sassy Sal
08-09-2021, 08:46 PM
Took Hoffman out why?

To give Wilson a chance to give up a deeeep one. Much success.

Ironman92
08-09-2021, 08:47 PM
To give Wilson a chance to give up a deeeep one. Much success.

Gotta get work in!!!!!!!!

Sassy Sal
08-09-2021, 08:50 PM
Gotta get work in!!!!!!!!

I think we are getting a better idea of where he fits into the bullpen anyway. :/

Rantly
08-09-2021, 08:51 PM
21
Barny: 6.13
TSteve:2.18

20
Barny: 5.33
Casali: 2.01

19
Barny: 3.66
Casali:3.10

18
Barny: 5.24
Casali: 2.30

Pretty crazy.

Wow, telling stats!

Tony Cloninger
08-09-2021, 08:51 PM
So stats don’t lie about Barnhart catching Castillo. Yet here we are with a chaw chewing traditionalist at the helm doing just that? Next you’re gonna tell me he looks good in spandex?

Hoffman has been great out if the bullpen.

adkindo
08-09-2021, 08:57 PM
losing sucks

NC-Red
08-09-2021, 08:58 PM
Indians have a deeper lineup than the Reds. Reds are better 1-6 but as a whole the Indians have a more impressive lineup that can also run. Reds have nobody who can run the base paths and make pitchers fear them

VR
08-09-2021, 09:03 PM
Indians have a deeper lineup than the Reds. Reds are better 1-6 but as a whole the Indians have a more impressive lineup that can also run. Reds have nobody who can run the base paths and make pitchers fear them

Just a tough game. 8 hits for the Reds, 10 for the Indians. Lots of line outs for the Reds. Indians run down the ball on the track, Reds don't. Indians turn the DP on the liner to first, Reds don't.

JFLegal
08-09-2021, 09:03 PM
pretty pathetic performace by the reds against a team that has already given up for the season.

and just when you think luis castillo has it figured out, he proves you otherwise.

awful loss.

Ironman92
08-09-2021, 09:06 PM
Quicker bat???? Jose Ramirez or Tyler Naquin

Pls b honest

JFLegal
08-09-2021, 09:18 PM
Quicker bat???? Jose Ramirez or Tyler Naquin

Pls b honest

naquin is still on the team?

Ironman92
08-09-2021, 09:18 PM
I hope we keep it going. The Bleh Indians feel like the type we might go cold on as we are all getting pretty excited and the baseball gods aren’t always fair.

I’ll gladly be wrong.

Well…sadly it happened. I will vow the rest of the way to keep it positive.

Ironman92
08-09-2021, 09:20 PM
Predictions!

India homers and reaches twice
Stephenson has 2 hits and at least 1 is xbh
Castillo dominates. 7 IP 1 R
Farmer goes 0fer for the first time in a while
The Guardians are on the decline, and look disinterested in a one-off game
Reds win 7-1

As president of the Farmer Fan Club….you need to do better. Kyle Farmer is a top 10 MLB hitter and not what we saw tonight. 2 hits tomorrow

Larkin Fan
08-09-2021, 09:21 PM
I think what ticks me off the most is that we will never have a chance to beat the 'Indians' again.

BluegrassRedleg
08-09-2021, 09:22 PM
They were due for a stinker. Haven't been outright beaten all night in about 2 1/2 weeks. Just don't let this spiral into the rest of the week.

NC-Red
08-09-2021, 09:22 PM
Haven’t had the Ohio Cup since 2014. That is just downright pathetic

Larkin Fan
08-09-2021, 09:23 PM
I am chalking tonight up to just being baseball. It happens to the best of teams.

NC-Red
08-09-2021, 09:23 PM
I think what ticks me off the most is that we will never have a chance to beat the 'Indians' again.

Which is why games against them are of the utmost importance. This organization doesn’t seem to care for State pride

Ron Madden
08-09-2021, 09:25 PM
Well, that was just one of those games where not much goes right. All ya can do is go and beat the Braves tomorrow.

Larkin Fan
08-09-2021, 09:26 PM
Which is why games against them are of the utmost importance. This organization doesn’t seem to care for State pride

Oh good gawd.

BluegrassRedleg
08-09-2021, 09:30 PM
Eff state pride; it's one of 50 opportunities remaining. Nothing more, nothing less.

Rantly
08-09-2021, 09:32 PM
Which is why games against them are of the utmost importance. This organization doesn’t seem to care for State pride

OK

JFLegal
08-09-2021, 09:35 PM
the guardians are bragging on twitter about "winning" the "ohio cup."

first of all, that's not a real thing.

secondly, 3-3 is not winning, you NE ohio eff-faces.

Ron Madden
08-09-2021, 09:35 PM
Indians have a deeper lineup than the Reds. Reds are better 1-6 but as a whole the Indians have a more impressive lineup

LOL, that's silly

JFLegal
08-09-2021, 09:36 PM
want to shut up a cleveland fan real quick? bring up the "guardians" thing.

prepare yourself to watch them get triggered.

mgbrown66
08-09-2021, 09:39 PM
Woof.

Tony Cloninger
08-09-2021, 09:49 PM
Which is why games against them are of the utmost importance. This organization doesn’t seem to care for State pride

You live in North Canada. Why do you care?

Ky Fried Redleg
08-09-2021, 10:00 PM
pretty pathetic performace by the reds against a team that has already given up for the season.

and just when you think luis castillo has it figured out, he proves you otherwise.

awful loss.



Shhhhh it happens .... Let's go get two of three X 2 and we'll be fine .

gagliano
08-09-2021, 10:03 PM
https://sabr.org/sites/default/files/frank%20thomas%20pit.png

Original ny met. Aka "the big donkey"

Ky Fried Redleg
08-09-2021, 10:15 PM
LOL, that's silly

I agree. Sillier than silly. I'd take the Reds all day, every day in a best of seven series against the Guardians.

RollyInRaleigh
08-10-2021, 10:57 AM
Eff state pride; it's one of 50 opportunities remaining. Nothing more, nothing less.

Just eliminate inter league play. The novelty has worn off...I’ve always hated it.


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KeefeCato
08-10-2021, 01:15 PM
Just eliminate inter league play. The novelty has worn off...I’ve always hated it.


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Yes ship Houston back to the Nl or Ship Milwaukee back to the AL. Whichever. And end stupid interleague play.

SomeCallMeTim
08-10-2021, 01:21 PM
Just eliminate inter league play. The novelty has worn off...I’ve always hated it.


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I don’t understand the hate for interleague. It just doesn’t bother me. I like the way they rotate. NFL has been doing it like that between the NFC/AFC.

Its only 10% of the season. And outside of the “rival” series, your division play the same teams.

Now if your arguement is that it hurts playoff chances (wild card) by playing a tougher AL division than your other NL competitors, then that might have some merit. But its all cyclical. This year the Cards, Cubs, Pirates are all down and the Reds are beneficiaries of that. If the Padres don’t make it they can make the argument that the Reds had a much softer intradivision schedule.

Besides, interleague is a absolute requirement if you keep 15 team leagues. How do propose fixing that? Are you good with having a 5 of 16 shot vs a 5 of 15 shot at the playoffs when the Astros were in the NL?

Ky Fried Redleg
08-10-2021, 02:03 PM
You know, you'd think me being a baseball purist(and an old fart) that I would find interleague play revolting. But it really has never really bothered me. I've always kinda liked seeing us to get to play some of the teams we rarely see. I mean, I could take it or leave it. Wouldn't bother me either way. However, some of the more recent changes--- 7 inning games, 3 batter min., "Manfred Man," etc... --- I HATE!

Ironman92
08-10-2021, 02:09 PM
You know, you'd think me being a baseball purist(and an old fart) that I would find interleague play revolting. But it really has never really bothered me. I've always kinda liked seeing us to get to play some of the teams we rarely see. I mean, I could take it or leave it. Wouldn't bother me either way. However, some of the more recent changes--- 7 inning games, 3 batter min., "Manfred Man," etc... --- I HATE!

I like the 3 batter minimum rule….we’d be seeing 7-8 pitchers a game before too long

Ky Fried Redleg
08-10-2021, 02:26 PM
I like the 3 batter minimum rule….we’d be seeing 7-8 pitchers a game before too long


I can definitely understand your thinking. Of course, I grew up accustomed to watching four and five hour games. I went to a DH once that lasted 9 hrs. (First game went 16 or 18 innings) I could watch(or listen) to baseball all day.