8-10-21 Reds @ Braves 7:20pm

[Ron Madden]

Reds
1. Jonathan India (R) 2B
2. Tyler Stephenson (R) C
3. Nick Castellanos (R) RF
4. Joey Votto (L) 1B
5. Aristides Aquino (R) LF
6. Kyle Farmer (R) SS
7. Eugenio Suarez (R) 3B
8. Shogo Akiyama (L) CF
9. Sonny Gray (R) P

Braves
1. Ozzie Albies (S) 2B
2. Jorge Soler (R) RF
3. Freddie Freeman (L) 1B
4. Austin Riley (R) 3B
5. Dansby Swanson (R) SS
6. Adam Duvall (R) LF
7. Joc Pederson (L) CF
8. Stephen Vogt (L) C
9. Drew Smyly (L) P

[reds44]

Bell is the second coming of Dusty lol

[Alabama Red]

I’d take my chances with Winker vs. a lefty instead of Shogo. I haven’t seen anything about Winker being hurt so I assume it’s the lefty pitcher.

[Ron Madden]

The Braves have a tough lineup, even without Acuna.

[reds44]

I’d take my chances with Winker vs. a lefty instead of Shogo. I haven’t seen anything about Winker being hurt so I assume it’s the lefty pitcher.

Shogo over Winker isn’t the problem. Moose sitting for a third day in a row so we can get a guy with a .553 OPS against lefties this year simply because he is a right is brain dead managing.

[Ironman92]

During his prime years Andruw Jones was the best center fielder I have ever seen…..so today we shall win and party at Andruw Jones’s house.

[KeefeCato]

Good time to give Winker a breather. Braves throwing another LHP Thursday. I hope Moose gets to play Thursday. This is already the 3rd straight game he has sat. Don't wanna see him lose his timing. After Thursday it may be a long time before they face another LHP. Maybe rest Joey Thursday with Moose at 1B.

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During his prime years Andruw Jones was the best center fielder I have ever seen…..so today we shall win and party at Andruw Jones’s house.

He fell off the cliff harder than Suarez has. He went from Allstar to nothing overnight.

[KeefeCato]

Shogo over Winker isn’t the problem. Moose sitting for a third day in a row so we can get a guy with a .553 OPS against lefties this year simply because he is a right is brain dead managing.

I am not going to get on Bell for Suarez playing. 90% sure Bell has no say in making the lineup out. Few managers do anymore.

[Ironman92]

Good time to give Winker a breather. Braves throwing another LHP Thursday. I hope Moose gets to play Thursday. This is already the 3rd straight game he has sat. Don't wanna see him lose his timing. After Thursday it may be a long time before they face another LHP. Maybe rest Joey Thursday with Moose at 1B.

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He fell off the cliff harder than Suarez has. He went from Allstar to nothing overnight.

He cashed in and after a life of baseball prep….he enjoyed life too much, was the toast of town and just let himself go a good bit. Suarez has a long way to go to get to what Andruw Jones accomplished on the ball field.

[JP321]

So I was ok with Moose getting a day at end of Pirates series.. and maybe even yesterday, but 3 days in a row? I don't give a rip what Geno makes a year, he isn't producing and if you want to give yourself the best chance to win, you play Moose until he gives you a reason not to

[Tom Servo]

Shogo over Winker isn’t the problem. Moose sitting for a third day in a row so we can get a guy with a .553 OPS against lefties this year simply because he is a right is brain dead managing.
I hate it too but I do understand it. It's an easier sell to Suarez on a platoon than an unceremonious benching, and I imagine it comes directly from the front office.

[Redsland]

Tonight is the third of my three roadies for the year. The first was Hoffman’s washout in DC, the second was the 12-inning heartbreaker in Minnesota. So I’m due for a win. Go me!

[reds44]

I hate it too but I do understand it. It's an easier sell to Suarez on a platoon than an unceremonious benching, and I imagine it comes directly from the front office.

Moose not playing for 3 days in a row, 1 game which there was a DH and the opposing team had a bullpen day, is stupid. If you know he’s not playing Monday and Tuesday he should have played Sunday against the righty.

[redsfan9988]

What’s the over/under? Unless it’s 9.5 or something, I’m over all the way.

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It is 9.5. Also, it went from EVEN to Braves -115 after the Reds lineup was posted…

[Rantly]

I am not going to get on Bell for Suarez playing. 90% sure Bell has no say in making the lineup out. Few managers do anymore.

Source?

Maybe Moose has had a setback with his heel?

[Ironman92]

Source?

Maybe Moose has had a setback with his heel?

Maybe Suarez has the pics of Bell like Drew Stubbs and Corey Patterson had of Dusty Baker

[reds44]

Maybe Suarez has the pics of Bell like Drew Stubbs and Corey Patterson had of Dusty Baker

Prolly not

[Strikes Out Looking]

Source?

Maybe Moose has had a setback with his heel?

David Bell is the heel in my version of the WWE.

[Tom Servo]

Reds lineup aside I’d probably pitch around Freeman this entire series. Make Riley or Duvall beat you.

[Ironman92]

Reds lineup aside I’d probably pitch around Freeman this entire series. Make Riley or Duvall beat you.

Never disagree with making someone other than Freeman beating you….but must note that Riley is hot as fire and leading MLB in rbi also since ASB

[DocRed]

Would love to know how Moose is feeling right about now...he's only gotten on base 5 times in 2 games since his return.

[TexasRedsFan]

The Braves have a tough lineup, even without Acuna.

I think so too. Soler was a good pickup for them.

[KeefeCato]

Source?

Maybe Moose has had a setback with his heel?

Moose may have had a setback. If so they are keeping it hush hush.
As for source. Pretty easy. Just Google mlb mangers no longer in charge of lineups. All kinds of stories about it.

[SomeCallMeTim]

Tonight is the third of my three roadies for the year. The first was Hoffman’s washout in DC, the second was the 12-inning heartbreaker in Minnesota. So I’m due for a win. Go me!

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[kaldaniels]

As President of the Jesse Winker Fan Club I hate to say it but he may be a platoon(ish) guy.

His numbers are abysmal vs lefties and there’s no other way to put it. I like to give guys time to work through all that but he’s not getting better.

Would sitting him vs lefties mess up his timing etc which would in turn sink his performance vs righties? Something to consider.

[Wonderful Monds]

Completely inexcusable that Moose is riding the bench for Suarez. Whoever’s responsibility it is, Bell, front office, probably a combination.


Totally and completely absurd.

[Ironman92]

As President of the Jesse Winker Fan Club I hate to say it but he may be a platoon(ish) guy.

His numbers are abysmal vs lefties and there’s no other way to put it. I like to give guys time to work through all that but he’s not getting better.

Would sitting him vs lefties mess up his timing etc which would in turn sink his performance vs righties? Something to consider.

I believe it would

[Ironman92]

Completely inexcusable that Moose is riding the bench for Suarez. Whoever’s responsibility it is, Bell, front office, probably a combination.


Totally and completely absurd.

….but in no way surprising

[Wonderful Monds]

As President of the Jesse Winker Fan Club I hate to say it but he may be a platoon(ish) guy.

His numbers are abysmal vs lefties and there’s no other way to put it. I like to give guys time to work through all that but he’s not getting better.

Would sitting him vs lefties mess up his timing etc which would in turn sink his performance vs righties? Something to consider.

Yeah I didn’t realize it had gotten that bad again. Looked like it was turning the corner last year, but that was also just only 40 PA vs LHP

[kaldaniels]

Yeah I didn’t realize it had gotten that bad again. Looked like it was turning the corner last year, but that was also just only 40 PA vs LHP

I’ll put it this way. His OPS was so low I had to trace up to the top of the column to make sure I was looking at the right stat.

[Wonderful Monds]

….but in no way surprising

I actually am surprised. At the very least at this being the third day in a row. Unless Moose actually is having a setback as speculated, there’s no good reason for this whatsoever. I really thought they’d be smarter than this.

[Ky Fried Redleg]

Reds lineup aside I’d probably pitch around Freeman this entire series. Make Riley or Duvall beat you.

Agree, agree, and agree. But , you know, they probably won't. Seems like he always gets pitches and usually does damage.

[Alabama Red]

As President of the Jesse Winker Fan Club I hate to say it but he may be a platoon(ish) guy.

His numbers are abysmal vs lefties and there’s no other way to put it. I like to give guys time to work through all that but he’s not getting better.

Would sitting him vs lefties mess up his timing etc which would in turn sink his performance vs righties? Something to consider.
He was a top prospect and they platooned him early in his career which should have never happened. Maybe with that development he would be better because he is bad against lefties now.

[SomeCallMeTim]

As President of the Jesse Winker Fan Club I hate to say it but he may be a platoon(ish) guy.

His numbers are abysmal vs lefties and there’s no other way to put it. I like to give guys time to work through all that but he’s not getting better.

Would sitting him vs lefties mess up his timing etc which would in turn sink his performance vs righties? Something to consider.

This is a case where I do think the math supports the decision.

But at the same time, the Reds have had a .170 combined hitter batting anywhere from 4-6 for 4 months.

They made the right move putting India at the top, not sure other why other things can’t be on a trial basis.

[wvreds]

Moose must be injured… again.

The offensive Sean Marshall

[AG Slater]

No Moose again? Still convinced Suarez has dirt on Bell. Left or not bull****

[AG Slater]

Reds gotta go minimum 3-3 vs Phil's and Braves to keep hope alive. Big week

[AG Slater]

Source?

Maybe Moose has had a setback with his heel?

No source he just can't take any team criticism from anyone. I think he's employed by the Reds

[NebraskaRed]

I've gotten used to skipping the first 3 pages or so of a game thread.

[Ironman92]

I actually am surprised. At the very least at this being the third day in a row. Unless Moose actually is having a setback as speculated, there’s no good reason for this whatsoever. I really thought they’d be smarter than this.

Batted Suarez 4th and 5th almost the entire time he was one of the worst hitters in the game….I’m not surprised at all

[Ky Fried Redleg]

The Reds just looked "out of sorts" from the get-go yesterday against the Guardians. Whatever the reason, if any, hopefully we will come out laser focused tonight.

[Kc61]

Reds suddenly facing a number of lefty starters; no off-days during August stretch drive; tough decisions on playing or resting players.

I’m sure it’s getting much focus by Bell and others and I can’t second guess the judgments. No perfect solution.

My concern is the middle infielders, Farmer and India, who hardly ever get a rest. I’d like to see that happen soon.

[wvreds]

After what we have seen this season (and most of last year) I would
gladly take Moose vs a LH than Suarez who is detrimental at the plate and in the field.

[JFLegal]

it took exactly one pitch for the umpire to make a freakin terrible ball/strike call. clearly a ball, called a strike.

[JFLegal]

2-0 pitch to stephenson was also a ball, called a strike. jackass ump.

so, stephenson strikes out because of that 2-0 pitch. if it goes 3-0 as it should have, no way he strikes out.

[JP321]

Hate when we face lefties... we seem so incompetent against them

[Tadasimha]

A very quick top of the first for Smyly; get your boys back in the box as quickly, Sonny!

[mhs95_06]

All the Reds outs on the 77 mph curveball. Turned out one of the few they took, the last of the inning was in the zone!

[Redsland]

Just met TySteve’s high school coach, sister, and brother in law. They all joked that the rest of the family was up in the box.

[davereds24]

hammard

[Wonderful Monds]

What’s the xBA on that hit? I only caught the end of that one falling in, but that looked catchable if someone called for it

[Griffey012]

What’s the xBA on that hit? I only caught the end of that one falling in, but that looked catchable if someone called for it

Well it was hammered according to Sadak…

[Tom Servo]

That's why I'd generally rather pitch to Riley than Freeman.

[NebraskaRed]

Votto with a big double.

[Tom Servo]

Votto gets the benefit of the doubt and then laces a double.

[mhs95_06]

Ump missed strike 3 to Votto and he hammers the next pitch for a double.

[Larkin Fan]

Votto is elite.

[JP321]

Runs may be at a premium tonight for Reds.. gotta take advantage

[Tom Servo]

The Punisher!!! :jump:

2-0 Good guys

[TheBigLebowski]

Big pun got rid of wun

[mgbrown66]

Holy punisher Batman!

[Larkin Fan]

I had a feeling that the Punisher would punish one tonight.

[JP321]

Big swing... finally AA bombs one

[mhs95_06]

90 mph fastball in the wrong place after two curves to AA!

[RedsfaninMT]

Guess I was a day early on my request!

[757690]

Aquino had been struggling, so it’s nice to see him back on track. His third good game in row.

[Falls City Beer]

And Bruce Berenyi rejoiced!

[AG Slater]

Good AB Suarez

[TheBigLebowski]

Suarez is awful. He cannot play regularly. I don’t care what they pay him.

[Tom Servo]

Moustakas could have done that.

[mgbrown66]

Jesus. No way Moose has ever looked that lost in the box. Wtf Bell? Suarez needs AA at bats.

[AG Slater]

Barrero just got an in the park Homer for the Bats.

[Kc61]

Aquino had been struggling, so it’s nice to see him back on track. His third good game in row.

He can play against lefties.

That’s his role.

[JP321]

Sad at bat by Geno.. he just, has lost all sense of how to hit

[AG Slater]

Jesus. No way Moose has ever looked that lost in the box. Wtf Bell? Suarez needs AA at bats.

Literally swing at a pitch that bounced 2 ft in front of home plate

[757690]

He can play against lefties.

That’s his role.

He hits righties about the same as lefties. .838 OPS vs .819 OPS

[50YrRedsFan]

Good AB Suarez

not!

[Big Klu]

Aquino has tied Mariano Duncan and José Peraza for 13th place among players of Hispanic heritage on the Reds all-time home run list.

1. Tony Pérez [🇨🇺] - 287
2. Eugenio Suárez [🇻🇪] - 180
3. Dave Concepción [🇻🇪] - 101
4. Leo Cárdenas [🇨🇺] - 72
5. Edwin Encarnación [🇩🇴] - 71
6. Wily Mo Peña [🇩🇴] - 54
7. César Gerónimo [🇩🇴] - 44
8. Felipe López [🇵🇷] - 41
9. Bo Díaz [🇻🇪] - 39
10. Javier Valentín [🇵🇷] - 34

11. Nick Castellanos [🇺🇸/🇨🇺] - 33
12. César Cedeño [🇩🇴] - 30
13. Mariano Duncan [🇩🇴] - 28
13. José Peraza [🇻🇪] - 28
13. Aristides Aquino [🇩🇴] - 28
16. José Guillén [🇩🇴] - 27
17. Juan Castro [🇲🇽] - 25
18. Ramón Hernández [🇻🇪] - 24
19. Eduardo Pérez [🇺🇸/🇵🇷] - 23
20. Yasiel Puig [🇨🇺] - 22

21. Alex Ochoa [🇺🇸/🇨🇺] - 20
22. Luis Quiñones [🇵🇷] - 19
22. Benito Santiago [🇵🇷] - 19
22. D'Angelo Jiménez [🇩🇴] - 19
22. Alex González [🇻🇪] - 19
26. Juan Encarnación [🇩🇴] - 16
27. Jerry Hairston, Jr. [🇺🇸/🇲🇽] - 14
28. Miguel Cairo [🇻🇪] - 13
29. Roberto Kelly [🇵🇦] - 12
29. Freddy Galvis [🇻🇪] - 12

31. José Iglesias [🇨🇺] - 11
32. Rubén Rivera [🇵🇦] - 10
33. Tony Fernández [🇩🇴] - 8
34. Jacob Cruz [🇺🇸/🇲🇽] - 7
35. Carmelo Martínez [🇵🇷] - 6
35. Bronson Arroyo [🇺🇸/🇨🇺] - 6
35. Kristopher Negrón [🇺🇸/🇵🇷] - 6

38. Dolf Luque [🇨🇺] - 5
38. Héctor Cruz [🇵🇷] - 5
38. Rubén Mateo [🇩🇴] - 5
38. Édgar Rentería [🇨🇴] - 5
38. Juan Francisco [🇩🇴] - 5
38. Yonder Alonso [🇨🇺] - 5
38. Brayan Peña [🇨🇺] - 5
38. Iván DeJesús, Jr. [🇵🇷] - 5
38. Dilson Herrera [🇨🇴] - 5

47. Juan Samuel [🇩🇴] - 4
47. Adam Rosales [🇺🇸/🇲🇽] - 4
47. Orlando Cabrera [🇨🇴] - 4
47. Ramón Cabrera [🇻🇪] - 4
51. Rafael Almeida [🇨🇺] - 3
51. Tony González [🇨🇺] - 3
51. Dave Martinez [🇺🇸/🇵🇷] - 3
51. Roberto Petagine [🇻🇪] - 3
51. Jolbert Cabrera [🇨🇴] - 3

56. Elio Chacón [🇻🇪] - 2
56. Chico Ruiz [🇨🇺] - 2
56. Pat Corrales [🇺🇸/🇲🇽] - 2
56. Julián Javier [🇩🇴] - 2
56. Alex Treviño [🇲🇽] - 2
56. José Rijo [🇩🇴] - 2
56. Rubén Sierra [🇵🇷] - 2
56. Melvin Nieves [🇵🇷] - 2
56. Guillermo García [🇩🇴] - 2
56. Ray Olmedo [🇻🇪] - 2
56. Dioner Navarro [🇻🇪] - 2
56. Ramón Santiago [🇩🇴] - 2
56. Alex Blandino [🇺🇸/🇳🇮] - 2

69. Armando Marsans [🇨🇺] - 1
69. Manuel Cueto [🇨🇺] - 1
69. Arturo DeFreites [🇩🇴] - 1
69. Sam Mejías [🇩🇴] - 1
69. Rafael Landestoy [🇩🇴] - 1
69. Mario Soto [🇩🇴] - 1
69. Leo García [🇩🇴] - 1
69. Freddie Benavides [🇺🇸/🇲🇽] - 1
69. Wilton Guerrero [🇩🇴] - 1
69. Jorge Cantú [🇺🇸/🇲🇽] - 1
69. Willy Taveras [🇩🇴] - 1
69. Chris Dominguez [🇺🇸/🇨🇺] - 1
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69. Tony Cruz [🇺🇸/🇨🇺] - 1
69. Gabriel Guerrero [🇩🇴] - 1

[Kc61]

He hits righties about the same as lefties. .838 OPS vs .819 OPS

.212 BA against RHP this year. 305 OBP against RHP this year.

AA should play against lefties only.

[Tom Servo]

can't tell if India added a little color to his hair or if it's just naturally light in some parts

[TheBigLebowski]

Great pitch

[TheBigLebowski]

Excellent job Sonny

[VR]

Shoulda thrown to first and then got Swanson. Oh well, bang bang.

[Wonderful Monds]

Has Sonny really won 2 games in a row? I thought at least one of his starts last week was a big botch job

[Rantly]

Moustakas could have done that.

Hope I’m wrong but the fact Bell (or the front office) sat Suarez and played Moose his first 2 games eligible and now he (or the front office) sat Moose for three straight tells me Moose heel is not feeling good. Hopefully it’s not just the RH/LH matchup.

[NebraskaRed]

Has Sonny really won 2 games in a row? I thought at least one of his starts last week was a big botch job

4 runs v. the Pirates but still won

[Tom Servo]

thank god so far for Votto and Aquino because everyone so far is just flailing at Smyly.

[Tom Servo]

bleh, Cast should be blasting this guy around the ballpark

[TheBigLebowski]

Smyly is making these guys look horrible. Exception being AA/JV

[podgejeff_]

Just got here, how's Sonny look?

[VR]

Just got here, how's Sonny look?

Very good.

[mhs95_06]

Going to have to hit the curve. Smyly tried the FB and AA showed as did the hitters following that they have not slowed down their swings enough to do anything with the curve.

[TheBigLebowski]

Sonny is dealing

[mhs95_06]

Sonny didn't throw any curves until he warmed up for the 2nd time thru with a curve to the P, then got the lead-off hitter with curves.

[Tom Servo]

Sonny very sharp so far

[TheBigLebowski]

Best he’s looked in ages

[NebraskaRed]

Sonny K. Gray

The "K" is for all the Ks

[Ky Fried Redleg]

My gosh...Sonny says just call me Cy!!!

[NebraskaRed]

Matthew Kaminski Musical keyboard
@bravesorganist


#Braves vs #Reds
“Kashmir” for India
“Dream On” for Tyler
“Darling Nikki” for Nick
“Mr. Roboto” for Votto
“Aqualung” for Aquino
“Farmer in the Dell” cod Farmer
“I Dream of Genie” for Eugenio
“Wake Me Up Before I Go Go” for Shogo
“Sesame St.” for Sonny Gray

[Ky Fried Redleg]

If we could add a couple more, I'd feel pretty good about us taking this one.

[Griffey012]

Sonny looked very sharp early against Pitt as well. Hopefully he holds up better this time around.

[mhs95_06]

AA, don't expect any fastballs!

[mhs95_06]

AA, don't expect any fastballs!

AA could have hammered that first curve, up in the zone and out over the plate!

[Tadasimha]

Those song choices are brilliant

[bing]

Get'em fellas!

[Ky Fried Redleg]

@NebraskaRed ,

** "Mr Roboto" - one of my least favorite songs from a great decade. Right up there with Manilow's" Copacabana."

** I think Genie could handle a slider better than Geno.

[podgejeff_]

Is Freeman a future HOF?

[Tom Servo]

good AB from Farmer, bad result

[Mitri]

Time to bring up Barrero :evil:

[Kc61]

Farmer with a number of DP grounders of late.

Needs a rest.

That’s why Senzel is playing shortstop tonight at AAA.

[Fil3232]

2 things, related:

1) why is Barrero yielding time at SS to Senzel in AAA?
2) will the Reds be willing to make the decision to go with Barrero if Farmer turns back into the back of his baseball card?

[Mitri]

2 things, related:

1) why is Barrero yielding time at SS to Senzel in AAA?
2) will the Reds be willing to make the decision to go with Barrero if Farmer turns back into the back of his baseball card?

Seems like they just aren't going with Barrero this season. It's dumb, but Farmer's 2nd half play sort of got in the way.

[HammerTime]

Tejay Antone making quick work of some yougins right now.

[Tom Servo]

Two out walks aren't ideal

[HammerTime]

Tejay Antone making quick work of some yougins right now.

1 IP 2 Ks 12 pitches...

[NebraskaRed]

Duvall gets his revenge

[Red Raindog]

That’s a mistake pitch to Duvall


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[Tom Servo]

Yerp and there's the 2 run bomb and now its a tied game. Walks haunt.

[mhs95_06]

Terrible pitch, hanging breaker middle, middle -- gave up the Reds advantage on one bad pitch, same as Smyly did to AA!

[TheBigLebowski]

He needed that 2 run lead to stick. This team isn’t hitting anything else tonight.

[JCM11]

Two out walk then a bomb on a cement mixer. Our SP just isn't playoff caliber.

[Tom Servo]

Kind of a Mahle like game from Sonny so far, getting strikeouts but running a lot of full counts and really needs quicker outs.

[mgbrown66]

Been a weird stretch for Sonny. Looks like Scherzer one second and then the wheels just fall off.

[JP321]

Two out walk then a bomb on a cement mixer. Our SP just isn't playoff caliber.

Our SP is hardly my concern to be honest. How many games have they given us a lead and another unit has come in to lose it

[podgejeff_]

I put this more on the offense than Gray. The Braves have a decent offense.

Our offense needs to do more against Drew "I'm the definition of league average" Smyly.

[traderumor]

Gray lost his focus with his little chuckle after schooling Riley.

[Tom Servo]

I put this more on the offense than Gray. The Braves have a decent offense.

Our offense needs to do more against Drew "I'm the definition of league average" Smyly.
I'm not gonna get on Sonny too much until his line is done but that really was a bad pitch, and the two out walk beforehand shouldn't have happened either. Just don't give Duvall anything on a tee and that's what Sonny did.

[dakota42]

Geno can't get a break at all.

[Kc61]

Braves always seem to have a good defensive outfield.

[TheBigLebowski]

Lot of Jim Edmonds in that “diving grab”

[traderumor]

So you want to see Winker play CF? Watch Joc Pederson.

[Kc61]

Geno can't get a break at all.

Somehow I don’t think the problem is a lack of breaks.

[TheBigLebowski]

Winker without a bat would be a tougher out than Akiyama

[Tom Servo]

Braves always seem to have a good defensive outfield.
Joc Pederson rates out poorly in the OF, I'd say that was more of a blind squirrel situation.

[podgejeff_]

Joc Pederson rates out poorly in the OF, I'd say that was more of a blind squirrel situation.

That dive looked like a broken bone waiting to happen.

[mgbrown66]

That dive looked like a broken bone waiting to happen.

Family board

[podgejeff_]

Winker without a bat would be a tougher out than Akiyama

Dude can glove, though.

[KeefeCato]

Nice catch by Shogo. Though he should never start against a LHP. Though I don't think Winker or Naquin should either. Someone has to start I guess.

[JCM11]

Another two out walk(on 4 pitches) to bring up Freeman; really? Does Gray just lose all focus with two outs or what?

[Tom Servo]

another 2 out walk, no bueno

[KeefeCato]

Another two out walk(on 4 pitches) to bring up Freeman; really? Does Gray just lose all focus with two outs or what?

I don't think he loses focus. It is just not a easy game. Not going to throw strikes all the time.

[KeefeCato]

will Freeman end up with better stats than Chipper?

[podgejeff_]

Great job by Gray there.

[JCM11]

Big pitch to get out of the 5th with a tie game. Top of the order needs to do something here.

[Tadasimha]

Got him!

[JP321]

If Gray can give you one more inning without runs, he has done his job

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Reds offense needs to wake up and help him out

[Tom Servo]

will Freeman end up with better stats than Chipper?
Freddie's still got a lot of ground to make up, ask me again in 5 years.

[podgejeff_]

will Freeman end up with better stats than Chipper?

I go with Chipper overall but it's probably ends up close. Probably due to Chipper playing 3b.

[Tom Servo]

third time through now against Smyly, really need to do something

[redsfan9988]

Why stick with Smyly here a third time through the order? Their bullpen is decent isn’t it?

[JP321]

We need Nick to come up with something this inning

[64red]

For the amount of time Sadak has been around the game, you would think that it wouldn’t surprise him when the runner takes off 3-2 with 2 outs. Yet, he always seems to be caught off guard.

[redsfan9988]

will Freeman end up with better stats than Chipper?

I think Chipper’s peak was a bit better too. Freeman will have to play a long time to approach most of the counting stats.

[BluegrassRedleg]

ATL organist just played "Darling Nikki" for Castellanos. :laugh:

[Tom Servo]

India-Stephenson-Castellanos 0 for 8 with one walk against Smyly, that's your problem.

[mhs95_06]

Is Votto the last batter for Smyly?

[mhs95_06]

India-Stephenson-Castellanos 0 for 8 with one walk against Smyly, that's your problem.

I was surprised Castellanos didn't go oppo with that shift!

[VR]

Payback for Votto's last at bat.

[mhs95_06]

Payback for Votto's last at bat.

They were both in the zone.

[JP321]

Well... Reds are begging Braves for bullpen at this point. They can't touch Smyly

[TheBigLebowski]

2 hits in 6 innings. Granted, it’s our semi-pro adult beer league team we’re sending up there, but this is still pitiful.

[redsfan9988]

We are the 2021 Reds against RHP and the 2020 Reds against LHP.

Smyly has been better lately to his credit, but he’s got very fringy stuff held together with papier-mâché a duct tape. We should have been able to hit him. I am decidedly pessimistic about a bullpen battle with this club.

[VR]

They were both in the zone.

Yep. And he wasn't going to get two of them to go his way.

[redsfan9988]

Hembree wasting no time

[JP321]

Not sure I like pulling Gray, unless he called for it

[davereds24]

Hembree hasn't been relegated to mop up duty yet? We need Antone back asap

[redsfan9988]

Same story for Hembree. Lacking fastball command so he has to pump sliders until he hangs one. Gotta get the fastball over.

[Redsfan5]

Come on


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[TheBigLebowski]

Hembree looks great.

[Tom Servo]

this could get out of hand in a hurry

[JP321]

Hembree has zero faith in his stuff

[mgbrown66]

I can’t wait until this hembree is no longer gainfully employed by the Reds

[RedTeamGo!]

Lol Hembree why

[mhs95_06]

Not sure I like pulling Gray, unless he called for it

Seemed like the right time to me.

[JFLegal]

sonny "5-inning" gray.

[Mitri]

Hebree is shot. Pull him immediately. Bring up Santillan.

[Larkin Fan]

Garrett is our best rescue option???

[redsfan9988]

Fastball looked much better against Duvall. Nice slider to finish him. Gotta have Garrett come up big here.

[Sassy Sal]

I can’t wait until this hembree is no longer gainfully employed by the Reds

That seems a tad harsh.

[George Foster]

I'm late to the game? Why is Gray out after 5 innings?

[Mitri]

Yes - good call Bell.

[Tom Servo]

Hebree is shot. Pull him immediately. Bring up Santillan.
Yeah they really gotta get Big Tony back up here

[mgbrown66]

Out of the frying pan and into the dumpster fire!!!

[KeefeCato]

Will they hit for Pederson?

[Tom Servo]

I'm late to the game? Why is Gray out after 5 innings?
Labored tremendously in the 4th and 5th.

[Redsfan5]

Bell finally doesn’t leave dude in till to late


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[podgejeff_]

I'm late to the game? Why is Gray out after 5 innings?

Nobody really knows.

[redsfan9988]

Garrett is our best rescue option???

Lefties are up now… you have Garrett, Doolittle or Wilson (who threw 20 pitches yesterday). Bro… it is what it is. Hopefully a GIDP

[davereds24]

I'm late to the game? Why is Gray out after 5 innings?

His line looked good, but he was fighting himself.

[JP321]

Like this from Bell.. make Braves make a move. Amir with a chance to earn a bigger role with situations like this

[JFLegal]

sonny has been trash ever since the crackdown on sticky stuff.

[Mitri]

Labored tremendously in the 4th and 5th.

Yeah, he looked very sharp even an out or two into the 4th.

I still think Sonny is okay, just been a rough season health-wise and he's never had time to get it all straight.

[George Foster]

Labored tremendously in the 4th and 5th.

We got to get more out of him. We're in a divisional race. 5 innings ain't getting it done.

[KeefeCato]

Like this from Bell.. make Braves make a move. Amir with a chance to earn a bigger role with situations like this

The days of Amir earning a bigger role are over. Sad truth is the Reds have no good LH reliever.

[JP321]

sonny has been trash ever since the crackdown on sticky stuff.

I hope I'm wrong, but I wonder what Antone is gonna look like without it. His breaking stuff was filthy

[mhs95_06]

Garrett is our best rescue option???

The 6th not the time for the best option. Hembree upset, but you can't walk a righty with none out and man on first. He thought Bell would let him fool around and try to sneak out of it like he used to in the 9th when the bullpen wasn't nearly as strong as now, which isn't saying that much.

[Mitri]

Man, 5 innings and two runs isn't that bad fellas. Give Sonny a little credit.

[Kingspoint]

Not sure I like pulling Gray, unless he called for it

Only 89 pitches, but 8 K's and a solid 5th inning. You let him pitch another inning.

[Coopdaddy67]

Garrett wasn't anywhere close that AB.

[JFLegal]

AG sucks

[mgbrown66]

Who would have seen a walk coming?

[podgejeff_]

Not optimal.

[mhs95_06]

Shades of Bill Bray, bring him in to face a lefty and he walks him!

[KeefeCato]

Man, 5 innings and two runs isn't that bad fellas. Give Sonny a little credit.

Yeah they aren't facing the Pirate lineup.

[Larkin Fan]

The 6th not the time for the best option. Hembree upset, but you can't walk a righty with none out and man on first. He thought Bell would let him fool around and try to sneak out of it like he used to in the 9th when the bullpen wasn't nearly as strong as now, which isn't saying that much.

To be clear, I wasn't calling for our best option from the bullpen. Garrett just isn't the guy to get Hembree out of this mess.

[Tom Servo]

AG sucks
Everyone is trash and everyone sucks, got it.

[George Foster]

Man, 5 innings and two runs isn't that bad fellas. Give Sonny a little credit.

6-7 innings I agree. 5 innings is not considered a good outing. Mediocre at best.

[Kingspoint]

Labored tremendously in the 4th and 5th.

You call that laboring in the 5th?

[redsfan9988]

Only 89 pitches, but 8 K's and a solid 5th inning. You let him pitch another inning.

He’s spent 40% of the season on the IL and the wheels launched off of him after 80 pitches in his last start. I’m okay with it. Trust the bullpen lol

[JFLegal]

team is falling apart right in front of us. getting your ass beat by a team like the guardians who have already thrown in the towel was a bad sign.

[Coopdaddy67]

Terrific slider for strike #2. Need a few more, Amir.

[mhs95_06]

Only 89 pitches, but 8 K's and a solid 5th inning. You let him pitch another inning.
Solid, but edgy!

[TheBigLebowski]

Stupid is as stupid does.

Can’t bring Amir into any leveraged spots.

[podgejeff_]

by a team like the guardians

God that's so weird to read.

[KeefeCato]

team is falling apart right in front of us. getting your ass beat by a team like the guardians who have already thrown in the towel was a bad sign.

Man it was one game. They will also lose again this season to the Pirates and the Marlins.

[redsfan9988]

Oh man full count and he has to throw a FB…

[Coopdaddy67]

Absolutely brutal.

[Red Raindog]

Hembree looks to need a visit to the IL

Amir needs to just go


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[Kilgore_Trout]

No bueno.

[mhs95_06]

You call that laboring in the 5th?

yes

[VR]

Is MLB.com broken for anyone else?

[REDREAD]

I am so tired of Garrett.. He needs to be cut.

[JFLegal]

that is hard to do right there. and AG just pulled it off.

we suck again.

[podgejeff_]

Is MLB.com broken for anyone else?

Yes, it is.

[Redsfan5]

Not major league level pitcher


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[757690]

Another night when Garrett has lost his release point. This is when he’s painful to watch.

[BluegrassRedleg]

How has this clown not been released?

[Tom Servo]

You call that laboring in the 5th?
It took him 19 pitches and a sliding catch to get 3 outs, so yes.

[Kingspoint]

So, replace Gray with pitchers who give up a single and three walks to five batters from the bottom half of the lineup.

[RedTeamGo!]

team is falling apart right in front of us. getting your ass beat by a team like the guardians who have already thrown in the towel was a bad sign.

Lol, they won the 5 games before that one. Grow up.

[George Foster]

Scared to throw a strike... doesn't trust it. 5-41

[Red Raindog]

Is MLB.com broken for anyone else?

Works for me


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[Ironman92]

Just surprised they took out Sonny and then bring in Hembree. That doesn’t seem to be the math to best get through the 6th without trailing.

[Larkin Fan]

This is horrible.

[Wonderful Monds]

team is falling apart right in front of us. getting your ass beat by a team like the guardians who have already thrown in the towel was a bad sign.

Not sure if you’ve forgotten this already, but they won 10 of 12 or whatever it was immediately prior to that

[JP321]

And someone said earlier our SP wasn't playoff caliber.. what is our bullpen?

[redsfan9988]

Yeah, Amir isn’t very good. I was really hopeful we’d grab a low-cost, innings-eating SP at the deadline. It’s gonna be a struggle with Mahle and Gray going 5 innings every outing. We just don’t have enough arms. Maybe Santillan? Or Greene out of the pen?

[JFLegal]

zero accountability. you have a pitcher with a 6.48 ERA throwing in a high-lev situation in August. how much of a sample size do you need to realize this guy completely sucks? remember, key word there is "august." it's not april.

a good organization would never allow a guy like AG to stay on the roster this long.

[Kingspoint]

Just surprised they took out Sonny and then bring in Hembree. That doesn’t seem to be the math to best get through the 6th without trailing.

Perfect case of a Manager outthinking himself.

[coryfly]

Not major league level pitcher


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He isn't really a pitcher. More just a thrower. However, the rule with Garrett is to not place him in high leverage spots. He isn't capable of really handling it.

[Monster Man]

Garrett sucks, but just another horrible managerial move by Bell. He just can’t help himself with his lefty/lefty BS tinkering with the bullpen.

[RedTeamGo!]

Scared to throw a strike... doesn't trust it. 5-41

He’s not scared to throw a strike. AG has absolutely no idea where the ball is going when he releases it. Zero. He just goes up there and throws. The literal worst pitcher on the roster to use in a situation like this. Bell is a fool.

[JFLegal]

what a joke

[TheBigLebowski]

Ok, I resisted for a while, but Garrett has to go. He’s painfully bad. Wretched.

[George Foster]

0-2 again... Fastball up

[Redsfan5]

zero accountability. you have a pitcher with a 6.48 ERA throwing in a high-lev situation in August. how much of a sample size do you need to realize this guy completely sucks? remember, key word there is "august." it's not april.

a good organization would never allow a guy like AG to stay on the roster this long.

Are u available to manage


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[MrRedSkull]

Garrett is not the guy to go to with RISP. It’s a given that he’s gonna walk the first batter he faces, bare minimum. Gets so old watching the same crap RPs walk hitters at the worst possible times. Idc about the 20 pitches yesterday, Wilson was still the better option here.

[reds44]

The best thing to happen to David Bell is castellini going cheap in the off-season. It took all the heat off him for 4 months.

[Tom Servo]

Perfect case of a Manager outthinking himself.
Sonny could have told him "I'm done", or could have gone out there and gotten blasted. He was clearly scuffling after getting two outs in the 4th.

[KeefeCato]

Perfect case of a Manager outthinking himself.

How do we know that Gray didn't say I am done?