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Ron Madden
08-15-2021, 10:03 AM
Reds
1. Jonathan India (R) 2B
2. Jesse Winker (L) LF
3. Nick Castellanos (R) RF
4. Joey Votto (L) 1B
5. Mike Moustakas (L) 3B
6. Tyler Naquin (L) CF
7. Kyle Farmer (R) SS
8. Tucker Barnhart (L) C
9. Sonny Gray (R) P


Phillies
1. Jean Segura (R) 2B
2. J.T. Realmuto (R) C
3. Bryce Harper (L) RF
4. Didi Gregorius (L) SS
5. Andrew McCutchen (R) LF
6. Brad Miller (L) 1B
7. Ronald Torreyes (R) 3B
8. Odubel Herrera (L) CF
9. Aaron Nola (R) P

Kc61
08-15-2021, 10:24 AM
Strong lineup for Reds today against RHP.

KeefeCato
08-15-2021, 11:33 AM
Win the series and continue to be no more than 2 and a half back.
Thank you Dbacks. For a good weekend. Apparently they only win against the Reds and Padres.

Ky Fried Redleg
08-15-2021, 11:38 AM
Really need to get this finale today. A 3-4 trip seems much more tolerable than 2-5. Get back home and clean up on a couple of deplorables.

You know, one needs to look no further than yesterday to see why many of us love baseball more than any other game and why I spent so many summers with a transistor held up to my ear or my butt perched in front of a TV set for three or fours at a time. Matt Moore, a guy who pitched for the Fukuoka Softbank Hawks last season and hadn't won a game as a starter in the majors since 2018, pitched six no-hit innings against a Reds' offense that has been pretty potent this season. Last night, a guy by the name of Tyler Gilbert pitches a no-hitter in his first major league start last night against a good Padres lineup . Gilbert pitched in 2019 for a team named the Little Pigs and spent last summer climbing around in attics working as an electrician. Folks, THAT's why we're so addicted to this game called baseball!!! YOU JUST NEVER KNOW ...

Alf_Red_E
08-15-2021, 11:45 AM
Strong lineup for Reds today against RHP.

I especially like where Suarez is... on the bench

Ky Fried Redleg
08-15-2021, 11:51 AM
Win the series and continue to be no more than 2 and a half back.
Thank you Dbacks. For a good weekend. Apparently they only win against the Reds and Padres.


Gotta hand it to the D-Backs. They have seemed really engaged and have played with a lot of energy this weekend. Only about 15 or 16 thousand fans in the stands but the team has competed hard.

Ironman92
08-15-2021, 12:24 PM
I hope they are more willing to go oppo today on the outer portion fastballs.

Pretty big game

AG Slater
08-15-2021, 12:29 PM
Need a mostly Sonny day today. No clouds

KeefeCato
08-15-2021, 12:50 PM
Happy to see Wink back. Will Antone and Senzel return tomorrow?

Monster Man
08-15-2021, 12:58 PM
Mike Freeman was DFA’ed. No problem with that move, but why is Doolittle still in this team?

Ky Fried Redleg
08-15-2021, 12:58 PM
I hope they are more willing to go oppo today on the outer portion fastballs.

Pretty big game

Maybe TySteve needs to assume the role of batting coach for a week or so.

KeefeCato
08-15-2021, 12:58 PM
Happy to see Wink back. Will Antone and Senzel return tomorrow?

No for Senzel as he was optioned to Louisville.

Ky Fried Redleg
08-15-2021, 01:03 PM
Mike Freeman was DFA’ed. No problem with that move, but why is Doolittle still in this team?

No earthly idea.... He can talk to the animals, maybe? :confused:

mhs95_06
08-15-2021, 01:04 PM
Mike Freeman was DFA’ed. No problem with that move, but why is Doolittle still in this team?

So if Farmer tears his ACL today, Senzel or Suarez will be the shortstop in the wildcard game?

Monster Man
08-15-2021, 01:09 PM
So if Farmer tears his ACL today, Senzel or Suarez will be the shortstop in the wildcard game?

I’d much rather have Senzel on this team instead of Shogo. Big Bob has to justify the millions they’re paying him, I guess.

CaiGuy
08-15-2021, 01:09 PM
My strategy would be to win the series today.

NebraskaRed
08-15-2021, 01:09 PM
India!

NCReds
08-15-2021, 01:10 PM
0-2 count. India says, I don’t care. 1-0 good guys!

mhs95_06
08-15-2021, 01:10 PM
Nola let that 3rd fastball come back too much over the middle!

CaiGuy
08-15-2021, 01:11 PM
Cool, just don't give up any runs and this one should be in the bag.

NebraskaRed
08-15-2021, 01:11 PM
Apparently Winker didn't feel like he needed to see any pitches after taking the last couple days off haha

NebraskaRed
08-15-2021, 01:13 PM
Cast tossed.

The ump show continues.

dakota42
08-15-2021, 01:13 PM
Idiot ump.

Ky Fried Redleg
08-15-2021, 01:14 PM
Umps almost making the game unwatchable. Terrible. Replace 'em with robots.

Monster Man
08-15-2021, 01:14 PM
Cast tossed.

The ump show continues.

MLB home plate umpires are a joke. Pathetic

NCReds
08-15-2021, 01:15 PM
Those weren’t good calls by any means. But this is not the game you want your best bat thrown out of the game in the opening inning.

NebraskaRed
08-15-2021, 01:15 PM
Put Geno in right field. Do it.

TheBigLebowski
08-15-2021, 01:16 PM
How freaking ridiculous

Big Klu
08-15-2021, 01:16 PM
Cast tossed.

The ump show continues.

Maybe Nick told the umpire that if he would take off the sunglasses, he might be able to see that pitch.

reds44
08-15-2021, 01:17 PM
i mean that was probably a ball to castellanos but it was really close lol

NebraskaRed
08-15-2021, 01:17 PM
The top of that inning was the best of the times and the blurst of times.

traderumor
08-15-2021, 01:19 PM
I think we should implement electric dog collars that give the ump a slight jolt each time they miss a ball and strike based on the computer zone. Oughta clean things up.

KeefeCato
08-15-2021, 01:21 PM
Tucker's errorless streak is good and all. But lets face it. Few teams try to steal anymore and when they do half the time they get such a good jump and Tucker only throws through about half the time.
Most Catcher errors come on bad throws to 2nd base.

NebraskaRed
08-15-2021, 01:22 PM
https://twitter.com/MLB/status/1426957163323342849?s=20

Yes

Reds Fanatic
08-15-2021, 01:22 PM
1-2-3 inning for Gray

Big Klu
08-15-2021, 01:22 PM
Sadak and Welch were interrupted by the Castellanos ejection, but they were talking about who had hit the 10 leadoff home runs in 1987. The answer is:

Kal Daniels - 8
Tracy Jones - 1
Barry Larkin - 1

Daniels hit .348 as the leadoff hitter in the first inning, and Jones hit .361.

Ky Fried Redleg
08-15-2021, 01:23 PM
I think we should implement electric dog collars that give the ump a slight jolt each time they miss a ball and strike based on the computer zone. Oughta clean things up.

I'm onboard with that. Technology is good.

KeefeCato
08-15-2021, 01:26 PM
https://twitter.com/MLB/status/1426957163323342849?s=20

Yes

He should win it. Not a banner year for NL rookies helps him a lot. Cause if any big market team had a good rookie then I doubt India would get picked.

NebraskaRed
08-15-2021, 01:26 PM
Moose with a very slow swing to strikeout.

mhs95_06
08-15-2021, 01:27 PM
I think we should implement electric dog collars that give the ump a slight jolt each time they miss a ball and strike based on the computer zone. Oughta clean things up.

That will make it worse unless the umps are over ruled.

Roy Tucker
08-15-2021, 01:28 PM
Reds need to not let the home plate ump get in their heads. He sucks, move on.

BCubb2003
08-15-2021, 01:30 PM
Reds need to not let the home plate ump get in their heads. He sucks, move on.

Swing away, boys.

Ky Fried Redleg
08-15-2021, 01:31 PM
Was this joker trained at the CB Bucknor school of umpiring? Clown.

Bruce Berenyi
08-15-2021, 01:32 PM
ray charles

Ky Fried Redleg
08-15-2021, 01:33 PM
Moose with a very slow swing to strikeout.

Twinkies and HoHos increasing his girth and reducing his bat speed.

mhs95_06
08-15-2021, 01:34 PM
I believe that 3rd strike to Naquin was accurate. The overhead camera showed it over the plate. The box is only two dimensions on the front edge of the plate. The true strikezone covers the whole volume over the plate from the knees to the top. Other video sources do a much better job of displaying it more correctly. I believe the pitch broke into the volume over the back corner.

NebraskaRed
08-15-2021, 01:36 PM
Shogo and Naquin are out there trying to one up each other.

BCubb2003
08-15-2021, 01:36 PM
Phillies uniforms have that happy round script but the colors are deep and rich with gravitas. I wish the Reds red in the home uniforms was deeper.

Ky Fried Redleg
08-15-2021, 01:38 PM
This home plate ump clown almost makes a old fella miss Eric "Yokozuna" Gregg. Almost... but not quite.

NebraskaRed
08-15-2021, 01:41 PM
That was a really good hit by Gray

Reds Fanatic
08-15-2021, 01:44 PM
India’s 2nd hit today

dakota42
08-15-2021, 01:46 PM
It really sucks not having Nick up there.

NebraskaRed
08-15-2021, 01:46 PM
2 ABs, 3 pitches for Winker today.

dakota42
08-15-2021, 01:47 PM
This ump is just pathetic.

TheBigLebowski
08-15-2021, 01:47 PM
This can’t continue.

NebraskaRed
08-15-2021, 01:48 PM
Shogo for MVP

Reds Fanatic
08-15-2021, 01:48 PM
Shogo doubles. 3-0 Reds

Red Raindog
08-15-2021, 01:48 PM
Shogogogo


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Fil3232
08-15-2021, 01:48 PM
Huge hit! Shogo is on fire

TheBigLebowski
08-15-2021, 01:48 PM
Take that jackass umps

traderumor
08-15-2021, 01:48 PM
That will make it worse unless the umps are over ruled.

classical conditioning

JFLegal
08-15-2021, 01:49 PM
how great was that!

Big Klu
08-15-2021, 01:49 PM
Well, if they're going to call that a strike, I guess you have to swing at it.

Domo arigato, Mr. Akiyama!

Sassy Sal
08-15-2021, 01:49 PM
Good for Shogo! This ump is a total disgrace btw.

TheBigLebowski
08-15-2021, 01:49 PM
How are these umps getting worse and worse? They’ve been so horrible this season.

NCReds
08-15-2021, 01:50 PM
Wow. An absolutely beautiful piece of hitting by Akiyama. Didn’t let the ump get to him in a 1-2 count, and then takes a pitch off the plate (that would’ve been called a strike) the other way for a 2-run double. That is one of the best ab’s I’ve seen this season.

TexasRedsFan
08-15-2021, 01:50 PM
Hopefully a bust out game for Shogo!

Ky Fried Redleg
08-15-2021, 01:52 PM
Take that you Cory Hart Sunglasses Futhermucker!!!

Big Klu
08-15-2021, 01:53 PM
How are these umps getting worse and worse? They’ve been so horrible this season.

I think with pitchers throwing harder and with more movement than ever before, umpires just can't physically see the ball anymore -- through no fault of their own.

BCubb2003
08-15-2021, 01:55 PM
I think with pitchers throwing harder and with more movement than ever before, umpires just can't physically see the ball anymore -- through no fault of their own.

Meanwhile we can see them better than ever.

klw
08-15-2021, 01:55 PM
https://blogs.fangraphs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/VottoPop2.gif.opt_.gif

Ky Fried Redleg
08-15-2021, 01:56 PM
I've always felt if Shogo got more playing time he would be productive.

Ky Fried Redleg
08-15-2021, 01:58 PM
I believe that 3rd strike to Naquin was accurate. The overhead camera showed it over the plate. The box is only two dimensions on the front edge of the plate. The true strikezone covers the whole volume over the plate from the knees to the top. Other video sources do a much better job of displaying it more correctly. I believe the pitch broke into the volume over the back corner.

Thanks , Dr. Sagan.

Regulus
08-15-2021, 02:00 PM
This plate ump is bird poop

mhs95_06
08-15-2021, 02:00 PM
Could have used that aggressiveness to 2nd on a bunt by Suarez yesterday.

TheBigLebowski
08-15-2021, 02:01 PM
I think with pitchers throwing harder and with more movement than ever before, umpires just can't physically see the ball anymore -- through no fault of their own.

I’m sure that factors, but what I’ve noticed is they miss
low strikes frequently on both sides of the plate. Hard and off speed stuff.

I can understand missing low dead-center fastballs. Those would be hard to call. Tough to know exactly where the pitch is when it crosses.

mhs95_06
08-15-2021, 02:02 PM
Thanks , Dr. Sagan.

Chris Welsh made the same point a couple minutes ago.

Big Klu
08-15-2021, 02:03 PM
Meanwhile we can see them better than ever.

That's because we are watching on high-definition TV's. Live and in person, it might be another matter.

If the umpires could see the ball that well, then they might be playing instead of umpiring.

Ky Fried Redleg
08-15-2021, 02:04 PM
Chris Welsh made the same point a couple minutes ago.

Yep, you did well. Btw, Carl Sagan is one of my heroes. :thumbup:

BCubb2003
08-15-2021, 02:05 PM
That's because we are watching on high-definition TV's. Live and in person, it might be another matter.

If the umpires could see the ball that well, then they might be playing instead of umpiring.

Exactly. I wonder, why couldn’t the umps wear enhanced glasses? Job-specific equipment?

Tadasimha
08-15-2021, 02:08 PM
Yep, you did well. Btw, Carl Sagan is one of my heroes. :thumbup:

17556

mhs95_06
08-15-2021, 02:09 PM
Moose rolling!

TheBigLebowski
08-15-2021, 02:10 PM
I think the new strike zone overlay and the Digital tracking we see of the pitch on TV makes the missed calls seem a little more egregious. 10 years ago we might not have reacted so viscerally to missed calls.

mhs95_06
08-15-2021, 02:10 PM
Exactly. I wonder, why couldn’t the umps wear enhanced glasses? Job-specific equipment?

Just give them a buzzer that vibrates when the ball goes thru the zone!

adkindo
08-15-2021, 02:11 PM
started watching late....saw Nick was ejected....but why was Winker taken out?

TheBigLebowski
08-15-2021, 02:11 PM
started watching late....saw Nick was ejected....but why was Winker taken out?

He was?

Big Klu
08-15-2021, 02:12 PM
started watching late....saw Nick was ejected....but why was Winker taken out?

No word yet, but I would assume that his back tightened up.

TheBigLebowski
08-15-2021, 02:12 PM
Kyle just uttered a few country curse words

DocRed
08-15-2021, 02:13 PM
Wow... that overhead shows just how much Farmer is crowding the plate. Why in the world doesn't he wear pads on his arms??

TheBigLebowski
08-15-2021, 02:14 PM
And we didn’t score there why??

Tadasimha
08-15-2021, 02:14 PM
Time to break this one wide open - or not

DocRed
08-15-2021, 02:15 PM
Wow....gonna come up empty with bases loaded and no outs.

NCReds
08-15-2021, 02:15 PM
Are you serious? Why did he not tag up on that?

JFLegal
08-15-2021, 02:15 PM
barnhart with a massive fail there. need tysteve starting most games at catcher. now reds might not even score after getting bases loaded with no outs.

NebraskaRed
08-15-2021, 02:15 PM
And we didn’t score there why??

Because there's no way Moose would have made it.

DocRed
08-15-2021, 02:16 PM
Just awful..

BluegrassRedleg
08-15-2021, 02:16 PM
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TheBigLebowski
08-15-2021, 02:16 PM
Because there's no way Moose would have made it.

Yeah, he’d probably still be chugging in.

Well, if they lose, remember this inning.

NebraskaRed
08-15-2021, 02:16 PM
Big, big missed opportunity there.

mhs95_06
08-15-2021, 02:16 PM
That prospective big inning evaporated pretty quickly!

JFLegal
08-15-2021, 02:16 PM
i was just about to say just strike out so you don't ground into a DP.

and he grounds into a DP.

that's all on barnhart though. what a weak AB. he needs to be benched. can't even frame a pitch to save his life. and stephenson is already far, far better than him offensively.

BluegrassRedleg
08-15-2021, 02:17 PM
I think you just witnessed today’s turning point.


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BCubb2003
08-15-2021, 02:17 PM
Wow....gonna come up empty with bases loaded and no outs.

Bases loaded, no outs, 8 and 9 batters up.

DocRed
08-15-2021, 02:17 PM
This team is really shooting itself in the foot. First Cast gets himself tossed early and now coming up empty with bases loaded and nobody out. Not good...bad feeling about this inning.

JFLegal
08-15-2021, 02:18 PM
oh well, we all would have taken 3-0 reds entering bottom of the 4th entering the game. let's go.

NCReds
08-15-2021, 02:21 PM
Yeah, he’d probably still be chugging in.

Well, if they lose, remember this inning.

Still should have noticed that the catch was made on his knees. No way possible that throw was gonna be made

TexasRedsFan
08-15-2021, 02:21 PM
I’m ready to move on from Barnhardt. I know he’s good defensively, but he’s also the second biggest rally killer after Geno.

JFLegal
08-15-2021, 02:22 PM
and a triple for realmuto. what a massive momentum change that was for the reds to not score in the bottom half. awful.

BluegrassRedleg
08-15-2021, 02:22 PM
Yep. And so it begins.


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DocRed
08-15-2021, 02:22 PM
...well here we go. Bad half inning followed by another bad half inning

JFLegal
08-15-2021, 02:23 PM
3-1.

TheBigLebowski
08-15-2021, 02:23 PM
Interesting stat:

We all would have loved to have had Gregorius at the beginning of the season.

Didi WAR 2021: -0.3
Farmer WAR 2021: 0.8

JFLegal
08-15-2021, 02:24 PM
i could definitely tell on winker's second AB he tweaked his back.

mhs95_06
08-15-2021, 02:24 PM
Nice job, after the aggressive route that didn't pay off, by Shogo in moving away from the ball to be in position to get the carom and make it close at 3rd. Tucker Barnhart is no Bryce Harper at getting a run in from 3rd with none out!

JFLegal
08-15-2021, 02:24 PM
now this terrible ump is squeezing sonny. gmafb.

TexasRedsFan
08-15-2021, 02:25 PM
Interesting stat:

We all would have loved to have had Gregorius at the beginning of the season.

Didi WAR 2021: -0.3
Farmer WAR 2021: 0.8

Yep, I was one calling for Didi. Glad the FO ignored me.

DocRed
08-15-2021, 02:26 PM
Come on Gray...

mhs95_06
08-15-2021, 02:26 PM
i could definitely tell on winker's second AB he tweaked his back.

Was it on the swing that hit the ball that looked like it may be a homer?

Roy Tucker
08-15-2021, 02:26 PM
Home cooking.

I think umps get intimidated by the Philly crowd.

JFLegal
08-15-2021, 02:27 PM
Was it on the swing that hit the ball that looked like it may be a homer?

yes. it was the way he jogged back to the dugout. as someone with a bad back myself, i could tell.

DocRed
08-15-2021, 02:27 PM
Cutch is hunting for a pitch here....be careful :X

traderumor
08-15-2021, 02:27 PM
Gray starting to look like a long reliever. Running out of gas early in his starts.

BCubb2003
08-15-2021, 02:28 PM
Home cooking.

I think umps get intimidated by the Philly crowd.

And that offends me, because it’s their actual job to be professional and not do that.

DocRed
08-15-2021, 02:29 PM
GREAT pitch by Sonny to get Cutch

DocRed
08-15-2021, 02:30 PM
I have no clue why MLB doesn't go to Robo Umps. Pro tennis in a lot of events has gotten rid of all of the linesmen in tournaments to call the lines. Stupid unions...

Big Klu
08-15-2021, 02:30 PM
Cutch is hunting for a pitch here....be careful :X

And...he didn't find it.

DocRed
08-15-2021, 02:31 PM
Damn Umps!!@#!@#

JFLegal
08-15-2021, 02:31 PM
i want to fight this ump.

he's either on the take. or even more terrible at his job than his colleagues, which would be amazing. either is very bad.

BluegrassRedleg
08-15-2021, 02:32 PM
Twice in that AB hit the MFing strike zone for balls. After this ass clown threw out our 3 hole hitter on an awful pitch.


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TheBigLebowski
08-15-2021, 02:32 PM
Have a bad feeling about this AB.

DocRed
08-15-2021, 02:33 PM
Yikes. close. Finally got out Torreyes the Reds killer!!

TheBigLebowski
08-15-2021, 02:34 PM
Good gracious that was more exciting than it needed to be

CaiGuy
08-15-2021, 02:34 PM
Y'all crack me up. They are leading, but the will lose because the pitcher hit into a double play after the 8th hitter flee out?

JFLegal
08-15-2021, 02:34 PM
what a play by votto! and thanks brad miller for not hustling/not sliding.

momentum right back to the reds.

Kc61
08-15-2021, 02:36 PM
Gray starting to look like a long reliever. Running out of gas early in his starts.

Interesting take. Sonny’s gone more than 5.0 innings six times this season. Would like to see that happen a bit more often.

I’d guess today, to win this series, Reds will use the whole bullpen if necessary. Hopefully Sonny comes out strong in the fifth.

mhs95_06
08-15-2021, 02:36 PM
what a play by votto! and thanks brad miller for not hustling/not sliding.

momentum right back to the reds.

Very good breakdown by Welsh on that play. Farmer had a long way to go on that one!

SomeCallMeTim
08-15-2021, 02:37 PM
Good gracious that was more exciting than it needed to be

Trying to count which I’ve had more of this year:

Sighs of relief or sighs of grief.

Wonderful Monds
08-15-2021, 02:38 PM
Goddamn Johnathan India

HammerTime
08-15-2021, 02:38 PM
Absolutely fantastic at bat from India.

TheBigLebowski
08-15-2021, 02:38 PM
Go FLORIDA GATOR BASEBALL

BluegrassRedleg
08-15-2021, 02:38 PM
Maybe two runs there if Sonny Gray had just struck out.


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traderumor
08-15-2021, 02:38 PM
Interesting take. Sonny’s gone more than 5.0 innings six times this season.

I’d guess today, to win this series, Reds will use the whole bullpen if necessary. Hopefully Sonny comes out strong in the fifth.

talking about effectiveness, seems like a pattern developing of unhittable early to falling off a cliff

Red Raindog
08-15-2021, 02:38 PM
India is a joy to watch


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BCubb2003
08-15-2021, 02:39 PM
His name is Jonathan but they call him ROY.

mhs95_06
08-15-2021, 02:39 PM
Gray was trying to clear the bases to un-clog them with the DP for the top of the order next inning!

Big Klu
08-15-2021, 02:39 PM
Reports of India's demise were premature.

KeefeCato
08-15-2021, 02:39 PM
Interesting take. Sonny’s gone more than 5.0 innings six times this season. Would like to see that happen a bit more often.

I’d guess today, to win this series, Reds will use the whole bullpen if necessary. Hopefully Sonny comes out strong in the fifth.

Sonny is not really any different than most SP these days. Most are becoming 5 inning pitchers. The ones who go deep into games like 7 innings on average break the bank.

Wonderful Monds
08-15-2021, 02:39 PM
For all the angst about Senzel getting optioned today, it’s wild how much India remains to be everything we’d all hoped Nick would be, while Nick himself can’t even play himself onto the roster


Like that is a really dumb move by the Reds, but that’s a major indictment on Senzel that he’s even allowed it to be that close that it’s even a question to begin with

Wonderful Monds
08-15-2021, 02:40 PM
Aquino with an average below the Suarez line the last 17 games :yikes:

DocRed
08-15-2021, 02:40 PM
Geezus now India....doesnt looks serious though.

Reds Fanatic
08-15-2021, 02:41 PM
Ugh now India’s hurt what a nightmare this is turning into

CaiGuy
08-15-2021, 02:41 PM
talking about effectiveness, seems like a pattern developing of unhittable early to falling off a cliff

That's basically every starting pitcher now, though I do get expecting more out of a solid talent like Gray.

He hasn't seemed 100% to me.

BluegrassRedleg
08-15-2021, 02:41 PM
We’re not gonna have anyone left in this one. We’ll have relief pitchers hitting later on.


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Big Klu
08-15-2021, 02:42 PM
His name is Jonathan but they call him ROY.

Call me...Roy.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/c2/d3/ba/c2d3ba59d5fe20488e5b4f3af69ef2b3.jpg

Reds Fanatic
08-15-2021, 02:42 PM
India’s staying but I did not like the way he was moving that shoulder

DocRed
08-15-2021, 02:42 PM
Jack one AA!!

CaiGuy
08-15-2021, 02:43 PM
I really dislike this short bench. They need to pick a pitcher to cut bait on and get Senzel up.

Wonderful Monds
08-15-2021, 02:44 PM
Is Shogo Akiyama the most feared Reds 3 hole hitter ever?

TheBigLebowski
08-15-2021, 02:45 PM
For all the angst about Senzel getting optioned today, it’s wild how much India remains to be everything we’d all hoped Nick would be, while Nick himself can’t even play himself onto the roster


Like that is a really dumb move by the Reds, but that’s a major indictment on Senzel that he’s even allowed it to be that close that it’s even a question to begin with

He should be up here if he’s healthy, but as you said, it’s asinine that it even has to be discussed.

Guess he can’t be called a total bust, but he’s in the same zip code.

DocRed
08-15-2021, 02:45 PM
I really dislike this short bench. They need to pick a pitcher to cut bait on and get Senzel up.

I'd bring up Barrero before Senzel. Pretty much any competent infielder should be able to play OF at least as well as our current ones do.

NCReds
08-15-2021, 02:45 PM
Is Shogo Akiyama the most feared Reds 3 hole hitter ever?

By far

CaiGuy
08-15-2021, 02:45 PM
Is Shogo Akiyama the most feared Reds 3 hole hitter ever?

Pitch to him at your own risk.

DocRed
08-15-2021, 02:45 PM
Phillies Keystone cops!! That should have been Torreyes all the way...but ball hog Didi seemingly called him off then proceeded to drop it.

Kc61
08-15-2021, 02:46 PM
We’re not gonna have anyone left in this one. We’ll have relief pitchers hitting later on.


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Yeah, I don’t love this 14 pitcher business. Hoffman can eat innings, just use him heavily in mop up situations. If he gets too fatigued, then bring up someone else. Reds could use the extra position player, especially in the infield.

TheBigLebowski
08-15-2021, 02:46 PM
Another missed calp

DocRed
08-15-2021, 02:47 PM
Gotta try to pull that SHogo....uggh

RedsBrick
08-15-2021, 02:47 PM
Make it happen, Joey.

Kc61
08-15-2021, 02:48 PM
I'd bring up Barrero before Senzel. Pretty much any competent infielder should be able to play OF at least as well as our current ones do.

Senzel’s very versatile defensively with experience all over the field. But Reds seem wedded to this current group right now.

DocRed
08-15-2021, 02:50 PM
Gotta make em pay here!!! 6 LOB in 2 inning would be a killer

Kc61
08-15-2021, 02:50 PM
Bases loaded again for Reds. Girardi coming out for a pitching change. Probably a lefty to face Moose.

Tadasimha
08-15-2021, 02:50 PM
Nola wanted nothing to do with JDV

RedsBrick
08-15-2021, 02:51 PM
...may he falter.

SomeCallMeTim
08-15-2021, 02:51 PM
Time to
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DocRed
08-15-2021, 02:51 PM
Senzel’s very versatile defensively with experience all over the field. But Reds seem wedded to this current group right now.

He might be versatile but he's not going to play over India, Moose/Suarez, Winker or Cast. So what does it matter then? The only position he is gonna play is CF in reality. He might very well get called up if Winker hits the IL so we'll see I guess...even then he prol only platoons with AA vs LHP and Akiyama/Naquin vs RHP.

Tadasimha
08-15-2021, 02:52 PM
Falter? I barely know 'er

BluegrassRedleg
08-15-2021, 02:52 PM
LHP entering game. That will do to it… unless Benavides uses one of his two remaining bats on the bench. Don’t think you can afford to do that. But can you afford to cling to a 3-1 lead with this bullpen?


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BluegrassRedleg
08-15-2021, 02:53 PM
I liked how Sadak got all excited about the walk, then Welsh had to remind him why it happened and why it’s probably not good news for the Reds


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TheBigLebowski
08-15-2021, 02:53 PM
They have to get 1. This guy isn’t koufax.

DocRed
08-15-2021, 02:53 PM
Falter....own your name!

BluegrassRedleg
08-15-2021, 02:55 PM
Pathetic


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DocRed
08-15-2021, 02:55 PM
Damn...Moose. Swings at balls and takes strikes.

NebraskaRed
08-15-2021, 02:55 PM
Moose...

RedsBrick
08-15-2021, 02:55 PM
Nice effort moose...

JFLegal
08-15-2021, 02:55 PM
moose and barnhart battling it out for "worst AB of the game."

TheBigLebowski
08-15-2021, 02:55 PM
That’s about all the Moustakas I can stomach. He’s done

JFLegal
08-15-2021, 02:56 PM
just make him throw a strike.

NebraskaRed
08-15-2021, 02:56 PM
Can't bring Senzel up, too many guys are playing too well right now

RollyInRaleigh
08-15-2021, 02:56 PM
How do you take that...


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SomeCallMeTim
08-15-2021, 02:57 PM
Was he even ready for the pitch.

As if he couldn’t be bothered up there.

AG Slater
08-15-2021, 02:57 PM
Injury bug has hurt the Reds all season. Now India and Winker hurting at the most crucial part of season

DocRed
08-15-2021, 02:57 PM
elfin ump

JFLegal
08-15-2021, 02:57 PM
oh this idiot ump. should be 3-1, not 2-2. with the bases loaded, kinda big.

Monster Man
08-15-2021, 02:57 PM
Moose has been a huge disappointment and a waste of contract dollars. Overweight and overpaid

AG Slater
08-15-2021, 02:57 PM
Can't bring Senzel up, too many guys are playing too well right now

If you pay em you gotta play em- Nick Kroll

TheBigLebowski
08-15-2021, 02:58 PM
This is a heist

DocRed
08-15-2021, 02:58 PM
Chris Welsh "Bird poop"

JFLegal
08-15-2021, 02:58 PM
reds should have scored a run right there. this guy is a clown.

Tom Servo
08-15-2021, 02:58 PM
Moose has been a huge disappointment and a waste of contract dollars. Overweight and overpaid
ok

Kc61
08-15-2021, 02:58 PM
Couple of rough called strikes this inning to Moose and Naquin.

JFLegal
08-15-2021, 02:58 PM
they score anyway! 4-1 redlegs.

Tom Servo
08-15-2021, 02:58 PM
nice job Naquin!

Reds Fanatic
08-15-2021, 02:58 PM
Naquin walks in a run. 4-1 Reds

DocRed
08-15-2021, 02:58 PM
WOw...GREAT AB by Naquin!!!! Those aren't easy pitches for a LHB to take

Kc61
08-15-2021, 02:58 PM
He faltered.

RedsBrick
08-15-2021, 02:58 PM
I'll take it.

TheBigLebowski
08-15-2021, 02:59 PM
Good. He wanted to ring him up.

mhs95_06
08-15-2021, 02:59 PM
All that ruckus by Castellanos pays off!

CaiGuy
08-15-2021, 02:59 PM
Reds have led all game and this thread is misery lol. So many blocked posts.

Tadasimha
08-15-2021, 02:59 PM
Nice patient AB, Tyler. Worked the walk and a run

JFLegal
08-15-2021, 02:59 PM
very nice patience by naquin to draw FIVE balls on that AB. for a usual free-swinger like him, seriously impressive.

Reds Fanatic
08-15-2021, 02:59 PM
India immediately going to see the trainer. This is not good at all

DocRed
08-15-2021, 02:59 PM
India.....not looking good. Moose to 2nd and Suarez to 3B may be coming

JFLegal
08-15-2021, 02:59 PM
aaaaand now it looks like india jammed up his shoulder pretty good.

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almost would be nice to have jose barrero on the team right now instead one of the pitchers like doolittle, AG, etc.

Alabama Red
08-15-2021, 03:00 PM
Umpire just took the bat out of farmers hand. This guy has been awful and should be embarrassed.

mhs95_06
08-15-2021, 03:00 PM
I had higher expectations for Farmer's AB vs. the captive lefty!

NebraskaRed
08-15-2021, 03:00 PM
Senzel went out and found a witch this morning and cursed this team.

KeefeCato
08-15-2021, 03:01 PM
Figures the injury bug hitting again. This could very well mean both Winker and India out for a while.

JFLegal
08-15-2021, 03:02 PM
india is a gamer. staying in.

DocRed
08-15-2021, 03:02 PM
Wow...India back out there! Man I love this kid. No idea how injured he is but I guarantee he lobbied to stay out there. Old school player....which is a rarity these days.

Reds Fanatic
08-15-2021, 03:02 PM
India staying in. I am really surprised

HammerTime
08-15-2021, 03:02 PM
Can't bring Senzel up, too many guys are playing too well right now

No question he should be on the roster over Aquino and/or Naquin.

DocRed
08-15-2021, 03:03 PM
Senzel went out and found a witch this morning and cursed this team.

He drank some rum and sacrificed a Chick'n...

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I still think its a positive that we got Nola out of the game.

KeefeCato
08-15-2021, 03:04 PM
No question he should be on the roster over Aquino and/or Naquin.

He should be here over Doolittle or Garrett first. Tired of 4 man bench just DFA one of those pitchers.

DocRed
08-15-2021, 03:05 PM
No question he should be on the roster over Aquino and/or Naquin.

Why? His career numbers are way worse than either of them. .824, .761 and .704 OPS. Who should be on this team? Senzel is a better defender than Naquin though...I'll give you that.

DocRed
08-15-2021, 03:08 PM
Well...here we go. It was fun leading this game!

mhs95_06
08-15-2021, 03:08 PM
He should be here over Doolittle or Garrett first. Tired of 4 man bench just DFA one of those pitchers.

Today we got a couple candidates for the IL to avoid DFAing anyone!

CaiGuy
08-15-2021, 03:09 PM
Why? His career numbers are way worse than either of them. .824, .761 and .704 OPS. Who should be on this team? Senzel is a better defender than Naquin though...I'll give you that.

I bring him up as a Supersub. He is a better defender than those guys at multiple positions. Move a pitcher to make room, this short bench stinks.

Probably play him in CF against LH, for example.

DocRed
08-15-2021, 03:09 PM
4-5 soon. Sonny gray meltdown coming....

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I bring him up as a Supersub. He is a better defender than those guys at multiple positions. Move a pitcher to make room, this short bench stinks.

Probably play him in CF against LH, for example.

I don't have a problem with that. DooDooNothing should have been off this team in May.

mhs95_06
08-15-2021, 03:10 PM
Too bad that DP didn't get turned!

KeefeCato
08-15-2021, 03:11 PM
Figured Gray sat for almost 30 minutes.

BluegrassRedleg
08-15-2021, 03:11 PM
Watch what these guys do with bases loaded.


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RedTeamGo!
08-15-2021, 03:12 PM
Ugh, Gray is just not very good this year.

DocRed
08-15-2021, 03:12 PM
Damn...sonny can't find the plate. Probably walks in a run and gets pulled here. I HOPE

KeefeCato
08-15-2021, 03:13 PM
Damn...sonny can't find the plate. Probably walks in a run and gets pulled here. I HOPE

And I don't have much confidence in Sims throwing strikes either. He gets behind in the count walks a batter or two then throws a center cut meatball to the next batter.

RedsBrick
08-15-2021, 03:14 PM
Lol. Fans booing the TO. Harper called it.

Wonderful Monds
08-15-2021, 03:14 PM
Sonny plz

DocRed
08-15-2021, 03:15 PM
Breaking pitch off the plate please!!!

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Awful...

dakota42
08-15-2021, 03:16 PM
Sonny doesn't have it this season.:cry:

Tom Servo
08-15-2021, 03:16 PM
not ideal

Kc61
08-15-2021, 03:16 PM
Don’t you have to make a pitching change at this point?

BluegrassRedleg
08-15-2021, 03:16 PM
Not even competitive there. Scared to death.


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DocRed
08-15-2021, 03:17 PM
I don't get it...something like 6 straight fastballs by Sonny to Harper?

CaiGuy
08-15-2021, 03:17 PM
Don’t you have to make a pitching change at this point?

It's a shame they don't have a really good lefty for this spot.

DocRed
08-15-2021, 03:18 PM
Don’t you have to make a pitching change at this point?

Lesser of 2 evils I guess....

Kc61
08-15-2021, 03:18 PM
It's a shame they don't have a really good lefty for this spot.

Yes, big weakness.

AG Slater
08-15-2021, 03:18 PM
Need a dp ball

KeefeCato
08-15-2021, 03:18 PM
It's a shame they don't have a really good lefty for this spot.

I don't know that he would be any good or not. He can't be worse than Doolittle or Garrett. But they don't give Wilson a chance in close games.

RedTeamGo!
08-15-2021, 03:19 PM
Sonny doesn't have it this season.:cry:

Wrong side of 30 and always hurt. Not ideal moving forward.

George Foster
08-15-2021, 03:19 PM
Geez....

DocRed
08-15-2021, 03:19 PM
I'll take it...if we somehow come out of this inning leading. But man Sonny has been passed by Vlad in effectiveness....sad.