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Ron Madden
08-16-2021, 03:10 PM
Reds
1. Jonathan India (R) 2B
2. Nick Castellanos (R) RF
3. Joey Votto (L) 1B
4. Kyle Farmer (R) SS
5. Eugenio Suarez (R) 3B
6. Aristides Aquino (R) LF
7. Tyler Naquin (L) CF
8. Tucker Barnhart (L) C
9. Wade Miley (L) P

Cubs
1. Matt Duffy (R) 3B
2. Frank Schwindel (R) 1B
3. Patrick Wisdom (R) LF
4. David Bote (R) 2B
5. Robinson Chirinos (R) C
6. Jason Heyward (L) RF
7. Johneshwy Fargas (R) CF
8. Sergio Alcantara (S) SS
9. Justin Steele (L) P

Wonderful Monds
08-16-2021, 03:13 PM
5. Eugenio Suarez (R) 3B


https://youtu.be/h0z6YNSwrZA

Wonderful Monds
08-16-2021, 03:16 PM
Also I know he’s been a trooper for a minute now, but Kyle Farmer: Cleanup Hitter is pretty wild

indy_dave00
08-16-2021, 03:20 PM
Day one of 10 with Jose Barrero sitting on the bench. Will he even start one game while up?

RedTeamGo!
08-16-2021, 03:22 PM
That lineup is ass my dude

redsfan9988
08-16-2021, 03:23 PM
Welp, the bench is stronger than the lineup today.

Who gets more hits today

A) Eugenio Suarez
B) Jose Barerro
C) Neither gets a hit

redsfan9988
08-16-2021, 03:27 PM
It’s all about chemistry. Watching Eugenio flop around at 3B will inspire Tucker Barnhart to hit better. It’s a proven fact.

KronoRed
08-16-2021, 03:28 PM
Welp, the bench is stronger than the lineup today.

Who gets more hits today

A) Eugenio Suarez
B) Jose Barerro
C) Neither gets a hit

D) Wade Miley

Coopdaddy67
08-16-2021, 03:34 PM
Also I know he’s been a trooper for a minute now, but Kyle Farmer: Cleanup Hitter is pretty wild

Yeah, he's been awful the past 7-10 days. Time to accept that he's back to a bench-quality player.

Ron Madden
08-16-2021, 03:37 PM
The Cubs lineup has been added to the original post

Ron Madden
08-16-2021, 03:53 PM
Charlie Goldsmith
@CharlieG__
David Bell says SS Jose Barrero, a top prospect, has developed a lot this year.
“He has put himself in a position where we believe he can help our major league team.”
“We’ll find a way to get him enough playing time."

traderumor
08-16-2021, 03:53 PM
Cubs lineup are fictitious names due to MLB licensing restrictions.

JohnnyBench5
08-16-2021, 03:56 PM
Go Redlegs!

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RedTeamGo!
08-16-2021, 04:11 PM
It’s so funny that all that is left of the Cubs core is Heyward

Ky Fried Redleg
08-16-2021, 04:14 PM
What's the likelihood of getting this one in tonight? It's been raining most of the day down my way. Raining pretty hard right now. What's the weather guys saying for the Queen City?

reds44
08-16-2021, 04:21 PM
What's the likelihood of getting this one in tonight? It's been raining most of the day down my way. Raining pretty hard right now. What's the weather guys saying for the Queen City?

Hasn’t rained in like 5 hours and there’s no forecast for rain

KeefeCato
08-16-2021, 04:22 PM
What's the likelihood of getting this one in tonight? It's been raining most of the day down my way. Raining pretty hard right now. What's the weather guys saying for the Queen City?

From what I see the weather looks bad all week. Could be a long week. Lots of delays/canceled games.

Ky Fried Redleg
08-16-2021, 04:23 PM
Hasn’t rained in like 5 hours and there’s no forecast for rain

Ty. That's good to hear.

Ky Fried Redleg
08-16-2021, 04:28 PM
From what I see the weather looks bad all week. Could be a long week. Lots of delays/canceled games.

Ty. That's bad to hear. Hoping the Reds can collect at least five wins this week.

Wonderful Monds
08-16-2021, 04:29 PM
Cubs are coming off an 11 game losing streak and throwing a rookie lefty I’ve never heard of against us.


This is a trap game for the Reds if I’ve ever seen one.

Ron Madden
08-16-2021, 04:32 PM
C. Trent Rosecrans
@ctrent
I wouldn't be surprised if we saw more days off for Kyle Farmer, who is playing with a sports hernia. He's playing well, but Barrero is a starting-level shortstop

indy_dave00
08-16-2021, 04:36 PM
Surprised Michael Lorenzen isn't in center field and batting 5th tonight vs a lefty. Then if needed to pitch Shogo moves to center.

Boston Red
08-16-2021, 04:42 PM
Cubs are coming off an 11 game losing streak and throwing a rookie lefty I’ve never heard of against us.


This is a trap game for the Reds if I’ve ever seen one.

I haven't heard of 2/3 of their lineup. In their current form, they may be worse than Baltimore.

JohnnyBench5
08-16-2021, 04:43 PM
Winker on IL

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Ironman92
08-16-2021, 04:45 PM
Also I know he’s been a trooper for a minute now, but Kyle Farmer: Cleanup Hitter is pretty wild

He’s showing wearing down signs of a long season and batting 4th right now doesn’t seem optimal…..but I’m feeling a big game and tonight he shall be an rbi stud

Ironman92
08-16-2021, 04:46 PM
Winker on IL

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Yuck

Roy Tucker
08-16-2021, 04:49 PM
Cubs are coming off an 11 game losing streak and throwing a rookie lefty I’ve never heard of against us.


This is a trap game for the Reds if I’ve ever seen one.

Don’t tempt the baseball gods. The vengeance they can wreak is biblical.

Just say I hope they play well ;)

RiverfrontRed
08-16-2021, 04:49 PM
It'd be great to see more of Stephenson.

Mitri
08-16-2021, 04:49 PM
Cubs are coming off an 11 game losing streak and throwing a rookie lefty I’ve never heard of against us.


This is a trap game for the Reds if I’ve ever seen one.

Sounds like a win to me.

RedsfaninMT
08-16-2021, 04:54 PM
The Baby Bears lineup brings to mind a line from Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid: Who are those guys?

Larry Schuler
08-16-2021, 04:57 PM
This feels like a game of hot potato. Will the Reds be holding the potato when the "Cubs finally win again" buzzer goes off?

50YrRedsFan
08-16-2021, 05:02 PM
Aquino and Suarez back to back in the lineup...rally killer

Big Klu
08-16-2021, 05:23 PM
The Baby Bears lineup brings to mind a line from Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid: Who are those guys?

I was thinking the two dock workers from Major League:

"Who are these ****ing guys?!"

https://y.yarn.co/967bd1fa-8abc-4e9f-b037-669f1a420429_screenshot.jpg

onehand
08-16-2021, 05:49 PM
Yeah, he's been awful the past 7-10 days. Time to accept that he's back to a bench-quality player.

Not ready to buy that... yet. Winker, Cast, Moose & others have all have some bad streaks this season. His defense has been above average, and the hits he's gotten are not flukey... he is probably just worn down.

JohnnyBench5
08-16-2021, 05:50 PM
Geno has gotten alot of mileage out of those pictures :)

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Ironman92
08-16-2021, 06:05 PM
Geno has gotten alot of mileage out of those pictures :)

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Stubbs rode them for 205 strikeouts in a season

Alabama Red
08-16-2021, 06:18 PM
Krall said yesterday we didn’t have a roster spot for Senzel but today one opens and they call up Jose. Seems today would have been a good day to use Senzel with Winker out. I wonder if the Reds have kind of given up on Senzel or at least starting to doubt him.

VR
08-16-2021, 06:21 PM
I'm very happy that we have two rookies that should be starting over two seasoned veterans. It's a good position to be in. Let's hope the off-season brings the guts to the front office to move some well respected vets and make room.

VR
08-16-2021, 06:23 PM
Krall said yesterday we didn’t have a roster spot for Senzel but today one opens and they call up Jose. Seems today would have been a good day to use Senzel with Winker out. I wonder if the Reds have kind of given up on Senzel or at least starting to doubt him.

That seems to be the opinion of everyone. But perhaps Nick hasn't been an angel in his injury/rehab process. We just never know what is going on behind the scenes.

mhs95_06
08-16-2021, 06:33 PM
Aquino and Suarez back to back in the lineup...rally killer

That's why Farmer is above them in the order, so we have 4 that are reasonably smart hitters before we get to those two before the two lefty on lefty match-ups. I'd rather have Barrero up than Senzel because I think he's in a better hitting groove, and he'll fit better with subbing and spelling Farmer as he can play SS.

okpanda
08-16-2021, 06:40 PM
Has there ever been a weirder cleanup hitter duo than Kyle Farmer vs. David Bote?

Ironman92
08-16-2021, 06:46 PM
Has there ever been a weirder cleanup hitter duo than Kyle Farmer vs. David Bote?

Ok…that seals it…..5 hits and 8 rbi combined for those two

AG Slater
08-16-2021, 06:52 PM
It is nice to see the Cubs right back where they belong. In the tank. Didn't even realize they lost 11 in a row.

davereds24
08-16-2021, 06:53 PM
It'd be great to see more of Stephenson.

Why would he not be starting tonight, is Tucker now Miley’s personal catcher?

KeefeCato
08-16-2021, 06:55 PM
It'd be great to see more of Stephenson.

Barnhart is Miley's personal catcher. Stinks because the Reds facing a LHP tonight could really use Stephenson's bat tonight.

KeefeCato
08-16-2021, 06:59 PM
Why would he not be starting tonight, is Tucker now Miley’s personal catcher?

He has been all season.

JohnnyBench5
08-16-2021, 07:00 PM
Play ball!

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KeefeCato
08-16-2021, 07:01 PM
That seems to be the opinion of everyone. But perhaps Nick hasn't been an angel in his injury/rehab process. We just never know what is going on behind the scenes.

Looks like Barrero has passed Senzel by in the pecking order. Wouldn't surprise me if they trade Senzel in the offseason. Maybe for another failed/always injured used to be prospect from another team. Both players get fresh starts with new teams type of trade.

Alabama Red
08-16-2021, 07:03 PM
Looks like Barrero has passed Senzel by in the pecking order. Wouldn't surprise me if they trade Senzel in the offseason. Maybe for another failed/always injured used to be prospect from another team. Both players get fresh starts with new teams type of trade.
If Cast leaves Naquin will play RF and Senzel in CF. Not the way I’d draw it up but with this cheap organization that’s how it will play out. NC’s salary will be pure profit to the Reds.

KeefeCato
08-16-2021, 07:05 PM
If Cast leaves Naquin will play RF and Senzel in CF. Not the way I’d draw it up but with this cheap organization that’s how it will play out. NC’s salary will be pure profit to the Reds.

Yes his salary will be low. I still could see a swap like I was saying. Failed prospect swap. New guy's salary would be low as well.

Alabama Red
08-16-2021, 07:06 PM
Yes his salary will be low. I still could see a swap like I was saying. Failed prospect swap. New guy's salary would be low as well.
It might be a good move for him. I’d like to see him stick with the Reds though just because he was drafted by the team.

goreds2
08-16-2021, 07:10 PM
https://sportige.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/Excuses-Cubs-fans-e1477760139666.jpg

Tadasimha
08-16-2021, 07:11 PM
...and this game is underway

mhs95_06
08-16-2021, 07:12 PM
Miley with a quality play for the 1st out.

AG Slater
08-16-2021, 07:13 PM
Even with losing 11 in a row GABP is still Wrigley Field south. Disgusting

Ironman92
08-16-2021, 07:13 PM
Schwindel and Johneshwy?

Who?

I know most of you enjoyed dismantling the Cubs World Champion team and I enjoyed beating them down this year but I’d rather beat the team we know.

Ironman92
08-16-2021, 07:14 PM
Even with losing 11 in a row GABP is still Wrigley Field south. Disgusting

Are you there?

KeefeCato
08-16-2021, 07:15 PM
That Schwindel kid has been tearing the cover off the ball.

membengal
08-16-2021, 07:15 PM
"Down goes Wisdom"

Look at Sadak sub-tweeting the game thread

coryfly
08-16-2021, 07:16 PM
Very efficient first PC wise for Miley.

JohnnyBench5
08-16-2021, 07:16 PM
Yes his salary will be low. I still could see a swap like I was saying. Failed prospect swap. New guy's salary would be low as well.Makes sense...hopefully we can get Cast to stay as well.

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AG Slater
08-16-2021, 07:17 PM
I was thinking they need to re-sign cast, but they are gonna need to save to pay Ty Steve and India. Hopefully India, Stephenson, Barrero could be the core of the future.

NebraskaRed
08-16-2021, 07:17 PM
Very efficient first PC wise for Miley.

Read this three times trying to figure out if you were making some joke about political correctness that was going over my head.

I am not a smart man.

mhs95_06
08-16-2021, 07:18 PM
Good 1st inning with Miley pitching around the 1 out double. Brantley says his change-up will be key tonight to use on the aggressive young hitters who are trying to prove they belong in the line-up. Already worked well for the 2nd out for two swings and misses.

AG Slater
08-16-2021, 07:18 PM
Are you there?

No way. I never go when they play the Cubs. They are everywhere when they come. Just going by the blue in the crowd and the applause from the double in first

JohnnyBench5
08-16-2021, 07:18 PM
Putting the jinx on Geno.....173 hitter...why is he playing?

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NebraskaRed
08-16-2021, 07:19 PM
India cannot be stopped.

mhs95_06
08-16-2021, 07:19 PM
I wonder what India's percent of time reaching base as the games lead-off hitter. It has got to be way up there!

Ironman92
08-16-2021, 07:20 PM
Feel he could’ve made it as that ball bounced softly and Heyward carrying away…….knowing Heyward is solid out there

JohnnyBench5
08-16-2021, 07:20 PM
Love me some India! Go Gators!

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Tadasimha
08-16-2021, 07:21 PM
Heyward must be looking around the locker room thinking "how the $%@& do I get out of here?"

AG Slater
08-16-2021, 07:21 PM
India OBP .395 before that hit

Ironman92
08-16-2021, 07:21 PM
No way. I never go when they play the Cubs. They are everywhere when they come. Just going by the blue in the crowd and the applause from the double in first

The problem is there isn’t 30,000 Reds fans

Ironman92
08-16-2021, 07:22 PM
Heyward must be looking around the locker room thinking "how the $%@& do I get out of here?"

I’d say he’s ok knowing his past memories and his insane contract

KeefeCato
08-16-2021, 07:24 PM
The problem is there isn’t 30,000 Reds fans

Guessing several schools are now back . Never have big weekday/night crowds when school in back in.

757690
08-16-2021, 07:24 PM
It’s looking like Castellanos won’t be as expensive to keep next year as we thought

mhs95_06
08-16-2021, 07:24 PM
Going to pitch around farmer to get to Suarez and AA?

Ironman92
08-16-2021, 07:24 PM
See a pitch or 2 Kyle so you don’t hit into a DP

Ironman92
08-16-2021, 07:25 PM
Damnit Kyle…..see pitches, now down 0-2

KeefeCato
08-16-2021, 07:25 PM
It’s looking like Castellanos won’t be as expensive to keep next year as we thought

He will sign for a pile of money somewhere.

Coopdaddy67
08-16-2021, 07:25 PM
Apparently Larkin hasn't been paying attention to Farmer at the plate the past 2 weeks or so...

Ironman92
08-16-2021, 07:25 PM
Should be 2-1

adkindo
08-16-2021, 07:26 PM
Going to pitch around farmer to get to Suarez and AA?

mistake....both will have big games today :)

Ironman92
08-16-2021, 07:26 PM
Apparently Larkin hasn't been paying attention to Farmer at the plate the past 2 weeks or so...

He said past month snd a half and overall he has

HammerTime
08-16-2021, 07:27 PM
I like Kyle Farmer and he’s done well for this team in a huge time of need but there is no scenario where he should bat 4th. Ever.

Ironman92
08-16-2021, 07:28 PM
Bally camera angle on check swing [emoji2359]

adkindo
08-16-2021, 07:28 PM
Jose Barrero sporting a short Jheri curl?

JFLegal
08-16-2021, 07:28 PM
i have defended geno until the end, but i'm done. i kept talking about him hitting 49 HRs 2 years ago. but he's turned himself into a joke.

Ironman92
08-16-2021, 07:29 PM
I like Kyle Farmer and he’s done well for this team in a huge time of need but there is no scenario where he should bat 4th. Ever.

Well Suarez should bat 8th so he’s just batting in front of him

mhs95_06
08-16-2021, 07:29 PM
Suarez lucky on that 2nd ball call!

membengal
08-16-2021, 07:29 PM
What, exactly, was our 5th place hitter looking for there on that 2-2 pitch?

Red Raindog
08-16-2021, 07:29 PM
Suarez doesn’t have a clue


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Ironman92
08-16-2021, 07:29 PM
It’s unbelievable

coryfly
08-16-2021, 07:30 PM
Just don't understand how they keep playing Saurez. Should just play the young guy. Can't be worse. If he has to play because of money then he should only bat 8th.

Sassy Sal
08-16-2021, 07:30 PM
Bally camera angle on check swing [emoji2359]

There's no reason this can't be judged by computer. I firmly believe it should be along with balls and strikes.

adkindo
08-16-2021, 07:30 PM
fooled Geno by throwing straight down the middle

Coopdaddy67
08-16-2021, 07:30 PM
He said past month snd a half and overall he has

Not really.

He had a massive July fueled by a 2-week stretch. Every other month he's been well under a .700 OPS.

JFLegal
08-16-2021, 07:30 PM
what was the worst moment of that horrible AB for geno? the first one where he swung (check swing called strike) at a ball that hit in front of the plate? Or the last one where he struck out on a pitch right down the middle?

i'm going with ... "yes."

BluegrassRedleg
08-16-2021, 07:30 PM
That’s what you should expect when you put your worst hitter in the 5 hole.


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AG Slater
08-16-2021, 07:31 PM
What, exactly, was our 5th place hitter looking for there on that 2-2 pitch?

Same thing Catellanos was looking for

KeefeCato
08-16-2021, 07:31 PM
24 first inning pitches for a guy who is new to starting. Steele may only go 3-4 innings. Hopefully a RH reliever will be brought in.

JFLegal
08-16-2021, 07:32 PM
no snark, does anyone have any clue what has happened to suarez? he used to be good. literally 2 years ago. not like 10 years ago. 2 years ago. now he completely sucks.

JohnnyBench5
08-16-2021, 07:33 PM
Geno backwards K....as Gomer says...Surprise, surprise, suprise!

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adkindo
08-16-2021, 07:33 PM
no snark, does anyone have any clue what has happened to suarez? he used to be good. literally 2 years ago. not like 10 years ago. 2 years ago. now he completely sucks.

only thing that makes any sense is he never returned to form after the shoulder injury in the swimming pool

KeefeCato
08-16-2021, 07:34 PM
no snark, does anyone have any clue what has happened to suarez? he used to be good. literally 2 years ago. not like 10 years ago. 2 years ago. now he completely sucks.

Went from being a guy with a plan at the plate to a guy looking to pull every pitch 500 feet. Either he changes his approach at the plate or he will be out of baseball very soon.

TheBigLebowski
08-16-2021, 07:36 PM
Johneshwy sounds like an adjective.

How was the movie?

Not bad. A little too johneshwy in parts, but watchable.

Sassy Sal
08-16-2021, 07:36 PM
no snark, does anyone have any clue what has happened to suarez? he used to be good. literally 2 years ago. not like 10 years ago. 2 years ago. now he completely sucks.

I think he just needs glasses.

Stray
08-16-2021, 07:36 PM
That's a bad strike 3 call in our favor

Red Raindog
08-16-2021, 07:37 PM
Generous strike given to Miley

If he gets that one more often the Cubs will have problems


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VR
08-16-2021, 07:37 PM
Someone PLEASE find the record for LOB in a season by a batter. Suarez may have passed it already.


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redsfan9988
08-16-2021, 07:37 PM
So far, Barerro is having a better game than Suarez.

Also, nice quick inning by Miley, there against Jason Heyward and… some other dudes.

Ironman92
08-16-2021, 07:38 PM
Just don't understand how they keep playing Saurez. Should just play the young guy. Can't be worse. If he has to play because of money then he should only bat 8th.

He is 2 more games played from being the #1 player on the team in plate appearances

adkindo
08-16-2021, 07:40 PM
Aquino can run

Ironman92
08-16-2021, 07:40 PM
Someone PLEASE find the record for LOB in a season by a batter. Suarez may have passed it already.


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He’d be on pace for 150 rbi if he was good

BCubb2003
08-16-2021, 07:40 PM
Is there a way for Suarez to go back to the minors and start over, working his way back? It would be awkward, but it looks like it’s time for the last resort.

TheBigLebowski
08-16-2021, 07:42 PM
Is there a way for Suarez to go back to the minors and start over, working his way back? It would be awkward, but it looks like it’s time for the last resort.

Kind of like a modern day Billy Madison but for baseball?

Ironman92
08-16-2021, 07:42 PM
Suarez runners on base during his plate appearances

1st 168
2nd 99
3rd 54

AG Slater
08-16-2021, 07:43 PM
I kind of think they play Suarez because he is Vottos guy.

HammerTime
08-16-2021, 07:43 PM
Someone PLEASE find the record for LOB in a season by a batter. Suarez may have passed it already.


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His RISP numbers are unbelievable.

podgejeff_
08-16-2021, 07:44 PM
Barnhart gets unlucky but he's been roping those doubles down the right line lately.

Sassy Sal
08-16-2021, 07:44 PM
Is there a way for Suarez to go back to the minors and start over, working his way back? It would be awkward, but it looks like it’s time for the last resort.

I'd also like to request Sadak give the spanish language name pronunciations a break.

TheBigLebowski
08-16-2021, 07:44 PM
Tucker smacked that. Miley’s got ducks on the pond, and I am 150% serious when I say I trust him more than Suarez or Aquino

Ironman92
08-16-2021, 07:44 PM
Suarez has driven in Joey Votto this year…

5 times

FIVE

SomeCallMeTim
08-16-2021, 07:44 PM
Here comes Miley.

Ribeye time!

JFLegal
08-16-2021, 07:45 PM
WTF was that?

NatiRedGals
08-16-2021, 07:45 PM
Naquin over Senzel got it

TheBigLebowski
08-16-2021, 07:45 PM
What the hell kind of stupid idea was that??

JFLegal
08-16-2021, 07:45 PM
safety squeeze? or did naquin not get the sign?

kaldaniels
08-16-2021, 07:45 PM
What the hell kind of stupid idea was that??

That’s on Naquin.

BluegrassRedleg
08-16-2021, 07:46 PM
#InfiniteSigh

Stray
08-16-2021, 07:46 PM
Miley swings the bat well enough that I don't really understand that at all.

Tadasimha
08-16-2021, 07:46 PM
Here comes Miley.

Ribeye time!

Have some salad

Redsfan5
08-16-2021, 07:46 PM
Naquin runs like winker


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JFLegal
08-16-2021, 07:46 PM
reds seem to blow a lot more chances than most teams. just via unforced errors.

TexasRedsFan
08-16-2021, 07:46 PM
Bunt was a stupid call there. Two runners already in scoring position and a pitcher who can swing the bat.

SomeCallMeTim
08-16-2021, 07:47 PM
If you can lay down a bunt that cleanly, how much harder is it to angle it toward 1st or 3rd?

TheBigLebowski
08-16-2021, 07:47 PM
That’s on Naquin.

Partially, but it’s mostly on whoever called for that.

NatiRedGals
08-16-2021, 07:47 PM
Glad krall kept the team chemistry by saying Senzel needs to learn more about baseball before returning Nauqin you're a MLB player

SomeCallMeTim
08-16-2021, 07:47 PM
Have some salad

We definitely got grass on the play…

TheBigLebowski
08-16-2021, 07:48 PM
What a ridiculous way to waste a scoring opportunity.

podgejeff_
08-16-2021, 07:48 PM
Welp.

At least Steele is 40something pitches through 2.

AG Slater
08-16-2021, 07:48 PM
Can't find individual records for LOB, but the Reds are 27th in LOB/ game in 2021. So that's not good. Im sure Suarez has inflated that quite a bit.

JFLegal
08-16-2021, 07:48 PM
yeah, just should have let miley swing away there. even though he fouled off the first pitch, he got a good swing on it.

reds just try and outsmart themselves too often.

podgejeff_
08-16-2021, 07:49 PM
yeah, just should have let miley swing away there. even though he fouled off the first pitch, he got a good swing on it.

reds just try and outsmart themselves too often.

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coryfly
08-16-2021, 07:50 PM
Can't find individual records for LOB, but the Reds are 27th in LOB/ game in 2021. So that's not good. Im sure Suarez has inflated that quite a bit.

Saurez has left 235 guys on base so far this year. Not sure how that compares to other bad players around the league. It would be tough to imagine many players having more than that because when players are this bad they don't play as much as he does.

NebraskaRed
08-16-2021, 07:50 PM
Jim Day's hair gets darker by the day

KeefeCato
08-16-2021, 07:51 PM
Glad krall kept the team chemistry by saying Senzel needs to learn more about baseball before returning Nauqin you're a MLB player

Naquin career OpS .761
Senzel career OPS .706

Neither are great. But I think we are overrating Senzel. I know I have.

mhs95_06
08-16-2021, 07:51 PM
Safety squeeze a good idea, but there is a big difference in hitter mentality on the execution of it vs. suicide squeeze. Need to get the ball away from the pitcher, more down the line, and it is not imperative that you at least foul it, or even offer at it!

HammerTime
08-16-2021, 07:53 PM
Naquin career OpS .761
Senzel career OPS .706

Neither are great. But I think we are overrating Senzel. I know I have.

We 100% know what Naquin is. There is a chance Senzel figures it out and improves. He’s also better on defense and more versatile

NatiRedGals
08-16-2021, 07:53 PM
Naquin career OpS .761
Senzel career OPS .706

Neither are great. But I think we are overrating Senzel. I know I have.

I'm just saying he was sent to triple a to work on baseball with that run naquin should be sent to triple a to work on baseball

KeefeCato
08-16-2021, 07:55 PM
We 100% know what Naquin is. There is a chance Senzel figures it out and improves. He’s also better on defense and more versatile

That is possible. But they are not going to DFA Naquin. What happens if they do that and Senzel goes down hurt in his first few games?

BCubb2003
08-16-2021, 07:55 PM
The only bunting I want to see is along the stands at GABP in October.

KeefeCato
08-16-2021, 07:56 PM
I'm just saying he was sent to triple a to work on baseball with that run naquin should be sent to triple a to work on baseball

Naquin has no options. So would have to DFA him. That is why Senzel is still down there he has Options. Plus he isn't playing well.

757690
08-16-2021, 07:57 PM
If the bunt had worked, no one would be saying it was a bad idea. The bunt wasn’t a bad idea. The execution was bad.

KeefeCato
08-16-2021, 07:58 PM
5-4-yesiree-3

mhs95_06
08-16-2021, 07:58 PM
5th change-up in a row gets Miley an inning ending DP. Suarez almost too slow to get it!

NatiRedGals
08-16-2021, 07:58 PM
If the bunt had worked, no one would be saying it was a bad idea. The bunt wasn’t a bad idea. The execution was bad.

I mean the bunt was bad but naquin baserunning still sucks

Mitri
08-16-2021, 07:58 PM
Miley leading the league in GIDPs since July tells you all that you need to know about picking up his options. Makes too much sense.

SomeCallMeTim
08-16-2021, 07:58 PM
Jim Day's hair gets darker by the day

At least they gave him a working mic with his Just for Men.

podgejeff_
08-16-2021, 07:58 PM
Miley pulls a Miley, easy DP.

mhs95_06
08-16-2021, 08:00 PM
I mean the bunt was bad but naquin baserunning still sucks

Not so much, you want to make them make the play and the runner on 2nd still gets to 3rd.

podgejeff_
08-16-2021, 08:00 PM
Castellanos pulls a Castellanos, hustles his way to production.

NebraskaRed
08-16-2021, 08:01 PM
Nicky Hustle

TheBigLebowski
08-16-2021, 08:01 PM
Great hustle

coryfly
08-16-2021, 08:02 PM
Great 0-2 hit there. Terrible pitch. Have to score some here.

NebraskaRed
08-16-2021, 08:03 PM
Votto now at 1,999 career hits

Let's hope number 2000 is a bomb

mhs95_06
08-16-2021, 08:03 PM
Even a dp gets a run! No K.

Roy Tucker
08-16-2021, 08:03 PM
Castellanos is like a Kentucky thoroughbred going first to third. Long strides.

coryfly
08-16-2021, 08:04 PM
Farmer really needs to deliver here.

Brutal.

HammerTime
08-16-2021, 08:04 PM
That is possible. But they are not going to DFA Naquin. What happens if they do that and Senzel goes down hurt in his first few games?

I don’t want him DFAd just not playing this much.

herbdizzle
08-16-2021, 08:04 PM
There's our everyday SS; Kyle Farmer leaving 2 guys OB with no outs in both ABs so far. This guy sucks so hard.

podgejeff_
08-16-2021, 08:04 PM
Farmer swings at something about helmet height.

mhs95_06
08-16-2021, 08:04 PM
Two ABs two bad swings at high fastballs!

membengal
08-16-2021, 08:04 PM
just going super duper having Farmer at clean-up. swell stuff from Bell.

TheBigLebowski
08-16-2021, 08:05 PM
This team stinks in these situations.

JFLegal
08-16-2021, 08:05 PM
farmer's luck appears to have run out. one of the worst ABs you will ever see right there.

SomeCallMeTim
08-16-2021, 08:05 PM
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The middle of our lineup courtesy of NASA.

757690
08-16-2021, 08:06 PM
Really hard to defend Farmer/Suarez at 4/5

Roy Tucker
08-16-2021, 08:06 PM
Farmer knew it as soon as he did it.

JFLegal
08-16-2021, 08:06 PM
suarez: can't hit lefties at all this year.

let's bat him 5th.

herbdizzle
08-16-2021, 08:07 PM
There's our regular 3B, Eugenio Suarez, striking out twice with 2 men OB with in his first 2 ABs. Great job Bell. What a freaking clown this guy is.

membengal
08-16-2021, 08:07 PM
I am gonna lose my mind over the Farmer/Suarez batting order situation. It was insane at the outset, it remains insane as it is unfolding.

Red Raindog
08-16-2021, 08:07 PM
Halfway to the sombrero


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JFLegal
08-16-2021, 08:07 PM
do the reds lead the league in getting runners on third and not getting them in?

mhs95_06
08-16-2021, 08:07 PM
Perfect pitch for oppo RBI! K!

TheBigLebowski
08-16-2021, 08:07 PM
People who wonder why so many despise Bell need look no further than this crap

Dawink
08-16-2021, 08:07 PM
I cannot believe Suarez struck out


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coryfly
08-16-2021, 08:07 PM
5-9 is about as bad as it gets in MLB. This lineup is absolutely brutal.

redsfan9988
08-16-2021, 08:07 PM
If Geno ignores the ball, maybe it will go away.

JFLegal
08-16-2021, 08:07 PM
that was pathetically pathetic.

HammerTime
08-16-2021, 08:07 PM
Absolutely pathetic.

NebraskaRed
08-16-2021, 08:07 PM
As predictable as it gets.

Tom Servo
08-16-2021, 08:07 PM
That was real bad.

TheBigLebowski
08-16-2021, 08:07 PM
I cannot stand David Bell.

RedsfaninMT
08-16-2021, 08:08 PM
farmer's luck appears to have run out. one of the worst ABs you will ever see right there.

Team chemistry dude! That's what I've been told on here today!

herbdizzle
08-16-2021, 08:08 PM
David Bell trying to prove a point batting Kyle Farmer and Eugenio Suarez 4th and 5th tonight that these two are his guys. Both come up back to back with 2 men on in successive times through and can't get 1 run in. Bell is a freaking joke on this.

Alabama Red
08-16-2021, 08:08 PM
I’m a big Farmer fan and thinks he’s extremely valuable but that was an awful at bat. Then Suarez goes and one ups him.

BluegrassRedleg
08-16-2021, 08:08 PM
You can't really fix this level of dumb. If your manager is this big an idiot, you just gotta hope you can overcome it.

JFLegal
08-16-2021, 08:08 PM
do the reds lead the league in getting runners on third and not getting them in?

for clarity, i meant getting a runner on third *with no outs* and not getting a run. reds have to lead MLB in that stat.

this time, it was "just" first and third no outs, instead of bases loaded no outs.

mgbrown66
08-16-2021, 08:08 PM
Suarez makes me sad

RedsBrick
08-16-2021, 08:09 PM
Talk about a line up that falls off the cliff after the top 3...this is it.

TySteve needs more ABs.

NCReds
08-16-2021, 08:09 PM
do the reds lead the league in getting runners on third and not getting them in?

With <2 outs…. Seems like it.

TexasRedsFan
08-16-2021, 08:09 PM
This lineup is scary without Winker in there. Scary for Reds, not opponent.

Roy Tucker
08-16-2021, 08:11 PM
Wow, you guys.

Cop-A-Freel
08-16-2021, 08:11 PM
Did Bell let the Cubs fill out the Reds lineup card for tonight? Suarez at 5 huh?

JFLegal
08-16-2021, 08:11 PM
hell of a play by farmer there.

podgejeff_
08-16-2021, 08:11 PM
Wow, you guys.

No kidding.

SomeCallMeTim
08-16-2021, 08:11 PM
5-9 is about as bad as it gets in MLB. This lineup is absolutely brutal.

We have no right to poke fun at the Cubs lineup.

If the Reds get this win which I am in doubt, it will only be because Miley go 7 shutout and the top 3 catch a solo shot…

757690
08-16-2021, 08:11 PM
My guess is LeCure is being groomed to replace Welsh next year.

coryfly
08-16-2021, 08:11 PM
Yeah, you simply have to find a way to get Stephenson in there with the rest of this lineup. Not sure how you work it out but you have to somehow. Maybe just try this game to see if Miley can work with him. IDK but you need to do something.

podgejeff_
08-16-2021, 08:11 PM
WOW Farmdawg go get it.

TheBigLebowski
08-16-2021, 08:11 PM
Kyle FREAKING Farmer

kaldaniels
08-16-2021, 08:12 PM
I’m a big Farmer fan and thinks he’s extremely valuable but that was an awful at bat. Then Suarez goes and one ups him.

The Farmer hot streak has been over for awhile.

End the madness. (Put him back in the super-sub role)

Red Raindog
08-16-2021, 08:12 PM
Not too shabby there Farmer


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JFLegal
08-16-2021, 08:12 PM
miley with 4 shutout innings. let's go!

coryfly
08-16-2021, 08:13 PM
That was a fantastic play by Farmer. Really good stuff.

Sucks for Miley as good as he looks that he is getting nothing to help him out in terms of runs.

Red Raindog
08-16-2021, 08:13 PM
My guess is LeCure is being groomed to replace Welsh next year.

I would vote for him in Larkin’s seat


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mhs95_06
08-16-2021, 08:14 PM
My guess is LeCure is being groomed to replace Welsh next year.

Maybe Larkin won't be back. Does his contract go past this season?

Ironman92
08-16-2021, 08:14 PM
Awful by Farmer

He was hot as anyone for about a month and at the very end of that Bell moved him to 3rd, he did well a couple games and then his at bats turned into constant 0-2 counts….so he moves him back down and now back up???

Dude is tired and not hitting well…..but you all just saw that play. We like the dude, we’re glad he’s here. But batting him 4th and not being creative enough to effing start Stephenson is just dumb or lazy….not sure which.

If Michael Lorenzen can play in CF….Stephenson could play some in LF

Dawink
08-16-2021, 08:14 PM
What is starting to concern me is that we cannot hit or score against left handed starters. I mean after the Matt Moore debacle it’s starting to look pretty bad for us against lefties.


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Redsin4
08-16-2021, 08:14 PM
The Farmer hot streak has been over for awhile.

End the madness. (Put him back in the super-sub role)

While I agree….the convo really shouldn’t even be farmer vs Barrero. The convo should be Suarez vs Barrero and that should be the easiest decision ever.

If they want to keep starter farmer then start him at 3B.

Suarez is the worst player in the entire MLB this year. And that’s not being hyperbolic.

Roy Tucker
08-16-2021, 08:15 PM
I think LeCure is really good at color.

indy_dave00
08-16-2021, 08:15 PM
Suarez is well on his way to a career for strikeouts in a season now standing at 144. On his season list 147 is next , then 1555 then 189 . Impressive he now has 144 strikeouts compared to 72 hit. His strikeout missing the ball completely average is now at .346 , truly is hard to believe. The 49 homers he his in 2019 has completely ruined his hitting approach.

Ironman92
08-16-2021, 08:16 PM
Did I miss earlier in the game where Miley bunted ….was it definitely said to be a suicide squeeze and Naquin treated as a safety?

Roy Tucker
08-16-2021, 08:16 PM
And this Cubs pitcher is pretty good.

Redsin4
08-16-2021, 08:17 PM
Per ESPN, Suarez dead last in WAR out of 974 batters!

Nine hundred and seventy four. Thats insane!

kaldaniels
08-16-2021, 08:17 PM
To give Farmer some serious due he’s really jacked upon seeing him in person.

On TV he looks rather doughy but he’s not.

coryfly
08-16-2021, 08:18 PM
We do struggle against lefties. Seem to at least. Great AB by Naquin though.

herbdizzle
08-16-2021, 08:18 PM
For all the people earlier on this board calling for Farmer to stay as the everyday SS, I hope you're watching this game. The guy sucks. He won the lottery for a month and now he's toast. Sadly Suarez sucks even worse.

FREE BARRERO!!

HammerTime
08-16-2021, 08:18 PM
Well scrape one across this inning.

herbdizzle
08-16-2021, 08:19 PM
Per ESPN, Suarez dead last in WAR out of 974 batters!

Nine hundred and seventy four. Thats insane!

-2.5 WAR and counting.

TheBigLebowski
08-16-2021, 08:19 PM
Did I miss earlier in the game where Miley bunted ….was it definitely said to be a suicide squeeze and Naquin treated as a safety?

Close. It wasn’t a traditional “suicide squeeze.” It’s called The Bozo Bell Maneuver. Have the hitter forcefully bunt directly at the P and make sure the runner on 3rd isn’t aware of it. We’re not quite sure why we need to use it, but my Lord, we have to call something.

membengal
08-16-2021, 08:20 PM
Did I miss earlier in the game where Miley bunted ….was it definitely said to be a suicide squeeze and Naquin treated as a safety?

i didn't hear it resolved any which way

kaldaniels
08-16-2021, 08:20 PM
For all the people earlier on this board calling for Farmer to stay as the everyday SS, I hope you're watching this game. The guy sucks. He won the lottery for a month and now he's toast. Sadly Suarez sucks even worse.

FREE BARRERO!!

I don’t think we’ll have to worry about that. I don’t think the FO will micro manage things but I imagine Bell has been told to get Jose a good bit of playing time.

mhs95_06
08-16-2021, 08:20 PM
Now the bunt for Miley.

JFLegal
08-16-2021, 08:21 PM
walks naquin ... then barnhart gets up there hacking at a ball in the dirt.

just let him walk you.

TheBigLebowski
08-16-2021, 08:21 PM
Davey is dialing up another suicide squeeze here. Without the runner on 3rd it should work better.

Tom Servo
08-16-2021, 08:21 PM
4 innings into the first game of the home stand and the mood here is already gloom and misery.

Naquin is actually doing some stuff the last few days maybe he’s gonna go on one of those Farmer-like improbable runs. One can hope.

Roy Tucker
08-16-2021, 08:21 PM
Gotta get that bunt down first or third. Not right at the pitcher.

JFLegal
08-16-2021, 08:22 PM
stupid. now you wear out miley by making him sprint to first and get naquin off the base paths. just let him hit!

a better plan would have been to have miley just stand up there until he either struck out or walked. worst case, you have naquin on first.

mhs95_06
08-16-2021, 08:22 PM
Miley with another bad bunt angle!

HammerTime
08-16-2021, 08:22 PM
Wtf are we doing?

Stray
08-16-2021, 08:22 PM
Just let Miley swing the bat

podgejeff_
08-16-2021, 08:23 PM
Wtf are we doing?

Bunting.

And striking out at inopportune times.

Stray
08-16-2021, 08:23 PM
India!

RedsBrick
08-16-2021, 08:23 PM
No pressure, India. Needs two HRs in this at bat...

EDIT: I'm clearly behind on my video.

JFLegal
08-16-2021, 08:23 PM
india big fly! hell yes!!!!

NC Reds
08-16-2021, 08:23 PM
Miley should have been allowed to swing the bat.

Thank you India.

Tom Servo
08-16-2021, 08:23 PM
India! :jump:

Roy Tucker
08-16-2021, 08:23 PM
There we go.