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Ron Madden
08-18-2021, 09:25 AM
Reds
1. Jonathan India (R) 2B
2. Joey Votto (L) 1B
3. Nick Castellanos (R) RF
4. Mike Moustakas (L) 3B
5. Aristides Aquino (R) LF
6. Tyler Naquin (L) CF
7. Jose Barrero (R) SS
8. Tucker Barnhart (L) C
9. Tyler Mahle (R) P

Cubs
1. Rafael Ortega (L) CF
2. Frank Schwindel (R) 1B
3. Ian Happ (S) LF
4. Matt Duffy (R) 3B
5. David Bote (R) 2B
6. Michael Hermosillo (R) RF
7. Robinson Chirinos (R) C
8. Sergio Alcantara (S) SS
9. Adrian Sampson (R) P

KeefeCato
08-18-2021, 09:27 AM
I figured Barrero would get a start today. Lineup would be much better if Moose could get going. I have not given up on him like some has. He has missed a lot of time. Hard to step into a batter box against the best pitchers in the world when you have missed time. Hitters have to have timing.

RedsfaninMT
08-18-2021, 09:36 AM
Reds better whup on this pitcher. Sampson has an ERA almost touching 5...and that's in AAA.

CaiGuy
08-18-2021, 09:51 AM
Win, and yesterday is forgiven. Big difference in the quality of SP that they are going against.

Ron Madden
08-18-2021, 10:15 AM
The Cubs lineup has been added to the original post

kaldaniels
08-18-2021, 10:29 AM
Jose!

I’m trying to summon the spirit of Wally Pipp.

Boston Red
08-18-2021, 11:32 AM
Damn, the Cubs are bad. Got to win this one. GOT. TO.

mth123
08-18-2021, 12:05 PM
I like Barrero starting and like Aquino over Shogo even against a RHP. I'd switch Aquino and Naquin in the OF with Aquino in CF, but it isn't the biggest deal.

Ky Fried Redleg
08-18-2021, 12:31 PM
I like Barrero starting and like Aquino over Shogo even against a RHP. I'd switch Aquino and Naquin in the OF with Aquino in CF, but it isn't the biggest deal.

Disappointed in the Reds' performance last night. Bad fundamentals on display in the loss. Hoping for better today. Let's work around the two or three pop-ups we will get from the Six(teen) Million Dollar Man and score a bunch of runs today. Put the Scrubbies away early!!! Go Redlegs!!!

GAC
08-18-2021, 12:42 PM
Afternoon gents. Grillin' steaks

Powel Crosley
08-18-2021, 12:43 PM
Ian freaking Happ

GAC
08-18-2021, 12:43 PM
Happ crushes that to RF 1-0 Cubs

NC Reds
08-18-2021, 12:43 PM
I’d like to see Happ in the AL.

OldFashionedRed
08-18-2021, 12:44 PM
I'd like to see Reds pitchers stop fiddling with the edges of the plate, and then throwing it down the middle, waist-high.

GAC
08-18-2021, 12:45 PM
Helluva play up the middle by India!

OldFashionedRed
08-18-2021, 12:46 PM
Fantastic stop by India. And the throw was dead-center to Votto.

Sabo Fan
08-18-2021, 12:46 PM
I’ll bang this drum once more: Reds need to trade for Happ this off-season. Let him be part of the RF mix when Castellanos leaves. Even in a platoon role I’d like to see what he could do in GABP.

Tom Servo
08-18-2021, 12:47 PM
That was Happ's 13th HR at GABP, his next highest total at a ballpark is 6.

Kc61
08-18-2021, 12:48 PM
Mahle's developed really well, good starting pitcher, but GABP isn't a great fit for him.

Doesn't throw enough grounders, keeps the ball up in the zone. Still, like him, has pitched really well of late.

Ky Fried Redleg
08-18-2021, 12:48 PM
Can't say the Cubs are completely (HAPP)less. 1-0 Scrubs.

Redsfan5
08-18-2021, 12:49 PM
17575
Let’s go Redlegs


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GAC
08-18-2021, 12:49 PM
That was Happ's 13th HR at GABP, his next highest total at a ballpark is 6.

So why even pitch to him when he was 3-0? Defies logic IMO LOL

Tadasimha
08-18-2021, 12:50 PM
That was Happ's 13th HR at GABP, his next highest total at a ballpark is 6.

Babe Happ

OldFashionedRed
08-18-2021, 12:52 PM
"Well hit to right field". Caught 15-20 feet in front of the wall.

kaldaniels
08-18-2021, 12:54 PM
Nick has been falling back into last season’s pattern of swinging at those low breaking balls.

Hopefully just residual from his time off and he’ll adjust.

RedTeamGo!
08-18-2021, 12:55 PM
Trade Greene and Lodolo for Happ this offseason. Boom goes the dynamite.

On a serious note: not a great feeling today. (Might be the pain in my neck I woke up with)

mhs95_06
08-18-2021, 12:57 PM
2-0 pitch to Castellanos was well inside and a terrible call for a strike to get Sampson back in the AB to eventually get him!

Ky Fried Redleg
08-18-2021, 01:00 PM
Shocker! I would have thought Sadak would be a natural on the tennis court.

OldFashionedRed
08-18-2021, 01:00 PM
Shocker! I would have thought Sadak would be a natural on the tennis court.

Larkin would be fantastic as a color commentator in tennis.

kaldaniels
08-18-2021, 01:01 PM
Games on MLB Network if anyone wants a Sadak break.

Maldez
08-18-2021, 01:01 PM
I’ll bang this drum once more: Reds need to trade for Happ this off-season. Let him be part of the RF mix when Castellanos leaves. Even in a platoon role I’d like to see what he could do in GABP.

The guys a career .234 hitter and is hitting .186 this year....do we really need another Eugenio Suarez?

RedTeamGo!
08-18-2021, 01:02 PM
People always talk about extending Mahle. It’s been a hard pass for me from years and still haven’t changed my mind.

Tom Servo
08-18-2021, 01:02 PM
uhhhh this isn't good

Ky Fried Redleg
08-18-2021, 01:02 PM
2-0 pitch to Castellanos was well inside and a terrible call for a strike to get Sampson back in the AB to eventually get him!

#automatedballs&strikes

Maldez
08-18-2021, 01:02 PM
Mahle sucks today/

OldFashionedRed
08-18-2021, 01:02 PM
Anyone else think it looked funny when Barnhart grabbed that blocked ball, and instead it looked like he was picking up "87" (speed of the pitch). I don't know, I just thought it looked funny on telly.

Tom Servo
08-18-2021, 01:03 PM
I knew Mahle was real bad at GABP this year but man you're playing a glorified AAAA team, what are you doing here

Ky Fried Redleg
08-18-2021, 01:03 PM
Larkin would be fantastic as a color commentator in tennis.

Or Golf!!!

mhs95_06
08-18-2021, 01:03 PM
Bad Mahle! 1-2 to the lead-off hitter, then throws 3 straight not close, all outside, then a 2 run blast. Struggling, when Reds most need him!

TheBigLebowski
08-18-2021, 01:03 PM
Good Gahle Miss Mahle

Your boy’s tossin’ grapefruits

RedTeamGo!
08-18-2021, 01:06 PM
I knew Mahle was real bad at GABP this year but man you're playing a glorified AAAA team, what are you doing here

.857 OPS against at home. Insane. Literally should never pitch at GABP.

BCubb2003
08-18-2021, 01:06 PM
Sadak had a little bit of an edge to his tone talking about how beatable the Cubs should be.

KeefeCato
08-18-2021, 01:07 PM
They really need to reshuffle the rotation when possible. To make sure Mahle pitches road games as much as possible. He is money on the road. He is bad at home.

KronoRed
08-18-2021, 01:08 PM
Can't afford to lose to these yokels.

Kc61
08-18-2021, 01:08 PM
People always talk about extending Mahle. It’s been a hard pass for me from years and still haven’t changed my mind.

Reds might get a nice haul for Mahle. His overall numbers very good, the problems are at GABP, young, controllable.

But another approach is to keep working with him on whatever issues are affecting him at home.

It's a judgment call, I doubt Reds move him now, it would be out-of-the-box to trade a controllable starter who's not that expensive.

RedTeamGo!
08-18-2021, 01:08 PM
On the flip side: they should be able to score off of whatever Sampson is. If they can’t put up 4-5 against that dude they were never going to win this game.

Sabo Fan
08-18-2021, 01:08 PM
The guys a career .234 hitter and is hitting .186 this year....do we really need another Eugenio Suarez?

Buy low, sell high and all that jazz. Still fairly young and under team control for a few more years.

Including this year (which looks to be an outlier) his career OPS is .781. Sign me up for that from a 4th outfielder.

Ky Fried Redleg
08-18-2021, 01:09 PM
Sampson lays down a perfect bunch on first pitch. Yet Shogo can't bunt runners over?

mhs95_06
08-18-2021, 01:11 PM
A 2 out blooper for another nail in Mahle's high pitch count coffin!

Powel Crosley
08-18-2021, 01:11 PM
Jeez

RedTeamGo!
08-18-2021, 01:12 PM
Have to get Mahle out, he blows today. Awful.

Frank. Shwindel.

Ky Fried Redleg
08-18-2021, 01:12 PM
Amazing what a little bunt can do, isn't is baseball fans?

VR
08-18-2021, 01:12 PM
That throw by Naquin was pathetic.

KeefeCato
08-18-2021, 01:12 PM
Sampson lays down a perfect bunch on first pitch. Yet Shogo can't bunt runners over?

The bunt was not called for from the bench. The Reds do not bunt unless it is the pitcher.

Tom Servo
08-18-2021, 01:12 PM
Hoffman could do this

KronoRed
08-18-2021, 01:13 PM
Can Santillan go 5+?

Kc61
08-18-2021, 01:13 PM
Buy low, sell high and all that jazz. Still fairly young and under team control for a few more years.

Including this year (which looks to be an outlier) his career OPS is .781. Sign me up for that from a 4th outfielder.

Too expensive for Reds as backup outfielder. Maybe after Shogo is off the books. I could see them signing Happ to replace Cast if he leaves.

RedTeamGo!
08-18-2021, 01:13 PM
Amazing what a little bunt can do, isn't is baseball fans?

On the flip side, with how awful Mahle is today, if Sampson had swung away he may have hit a home run.

mhs95_06
08-18-2021, 01:15 PM
Time to have all plate appearances be concentrated and focused.

OldFashionedRed
08-18-2021, 01:16 PM
He can't throw anything for strikes, so he's just throwing them down the middle to avoid the walk. His numbers are starting to look more like JUNE. I say get him out.

I would have done this for the starting lineup:
1. India
2. Barrero
3. Votto
4. Castellanos
5. Aquino
6. Barnhart
7. Moustakas
8. Naquin
9. PITCHER

Tom Servo
08-18-2021, 01:17 PM
Mahle crapping himself just makes it more infuriating how the offense wasted a perfectly good pitching performance last night.

AG Slater
08-18-2021, 01:18 PM
Losing a series to a team that lost 12 in a row. Got rid of all their players. Priceless. Can't say they suck. This team has underperformed this series. Is that better?

OldFashionedRed
08-18-2021, 01:19 PM
I know people say that Moose just needs to get his timing down. His swing isn't even right.

Ky Fried Redleg
08-18-2021, 01:19 PM
Another CAN O' CORN for Big Mike!

OldFashionedRed
08-18-2021, 01:22 PM
Good, strong swings by Naquin. And one to finish it off! 5-1 Cubs.

Powel Crosley
08-18-2021, 01:23 PM
One down, five to go...

TheBigLebowski
08-18-2021, 01:23 PM
I know people say that Moose just needs to get his timing down. His swing isn't even right.

Careful. Lots of redzoners want to die on that hill

GAC
08-18-2021, 01:23 PM
Naquin Hr

bing
08-18-2021, 01:24 PM
One down, five to go...

Make it 10, just to be sure....

OldFashionedRed
08-18-2021, 01:24 PM
That kid can run. Love what he brings! He should have been in the #2 spot.

Ky Fried Redleg
08-18-2021, 01:24 PM
"The Renaissance of the Reds" ? John is a poet and don't know it.

GAC
08-18-2021, 01:24 PM
Barrero infield single

RedTeamGo!
08-18-2021, 01:25 PM
I’d pinch hit for Mahle here. Not remotely joking.

Tom Servo
08-18-2021, 01:25 PM
I’d have given serious consideration here to taking Mahle down for a PH

Powel Crosley
08-18-2021, 01:25 PM
I might have pinch hit for Mahle here.

GAC
08-18-2021, 01:25 PM
Barnhart single

KeefeCato
08-18-2021, 01:25 PM
I’d pinch hit for Mahle here. Not remotely joking.

Agree.

OldFashionedRed
08-18-2021, 01:26 PM
I’d pinch hit for Mahle here. Not remotely joking.

I agree. It's an automatic out.

bing
08-18-2021, 01:26 PM
Losing a series to a team that lost 12 in a row. Got rid of all their players. Priceless. Can't say they suck. This team has underperformed this series. Is that better?

It's the second inning...

Tom Servo
08-18-2021, 01:26 PM
Does Mahle have it it him to at least put up a few zeroes now?

mhs95_06
08-18-2021, 01:26 PM
Naquin Hr

High dewpoint and a warm west wind make that quick wristed liner carry over the fence to the bullpen for the first run, of many, the Reds need. Two hits following die on the vine of waiting until two outs to start the barrage!

KeefeCato
08-18-2021, 01:27 PM
Careful. Lots of redzoners want to die on that hill

Kind of like how a lot think Winker can hit LHP when the numbers say he can't.

KronoRed
08-18-2021, 01:27 PM
What's the point of carrying 914 pitchers if you can't pull the starter in the 2nd inning?

bing
08-18-2021, 01:27 PM
Does Mahle have it it him to at least put up a few zeroes now?

He's good now. Just needed to get an AB to really feel like he's in the game. All 0s from here on out.

RedTeamGo!
08-18-2021, 01:27 PM
This is what annoys me about Bell. His management style doesn’t change at all between games in April and mid August in a playoff chase. Mahle should have been pinch hit for there. He doesn’t have it today.

GAC
08-18-2021, 01:27 PM
I don't take Mahle out yet. He had a rough 2nd inning. Just don't give him much rope.

RedTeamGo!
08-18-2021, 01:29 PM
Careful. Lots of redzoners want to die on that hill

Pretty big difference between saying Moose is fat and is going to die of a heart attack if he eats another plate of ribs and saying “he’s swing doesn’t look right” but sure.

OldFashionedRed
08-18-2021, 01:29 PM
This is what annoys me about Bell. His management style doesn’t change at all between games in April and mid August in a playoff chase. Mahle should have been pinch hit for there. He doesn’t have it today.

He hands out participation trophies. All starters stay in until he gets his obligatory two double-switches a game. Feelings matter. Get'em next game!

RedTeamGo!
08-18-2021, 01:30 PM
I would bet anyone $100 right now Mahle doesn’t make it out this inning.

OldFashionedRed
08-18-2021, 01:30 PM
Another India clown move. Why do that?

GAC
08-18-2021, 01:31 PM
He can't keep leaving his pitches up like that though. ;)

LARKIN
08-18-2021, 01:31 PM
Relax guys. We got this one.

RedTeamGo!
08-18-2021, 01:31 PM
Another India clown move. Why do that?

To be fair: probably knew it is going to be only fielding chance for the rest of Mahle’s start today

BCubb2003
08-18-2021, 01:31 PM
Another India clown move. Why do that?

He’s a rookie. He’ll be as good as Brandon Phillips soon.

GAC
08-18-2021, 01:32 PM
I would bet anyone $100 right now Mahle doesn’t make it out this inning.

I don't get my SSi check till next week! LOL

kaldaniels
08-18-2021, 01:34 PM
Hmmm I just saw the Cubs DFA Winkler.

I don’t want him but find that interesting.

/yes I know, he jumped the shark

OldFashionedRed
08-18-2021, 01:34 PM
It's tempting to say that they HAVE to win this game, but they're all important games at this point in the season. The winning teams are doing just that.

Tom Servo
08-18-2021, 01:35 PM
This is what annoys me about Bell. His management style doesn’t change at all between games in April and mid August in a playoff chase. Mahle should have been pinch hit for there. He doesn’t have it today.
Like I said I’d have given serious consideration to it, but I get the argument for why you don’t. If the PH just makes an out and the pen comes in and continues the hit parade, what will you have accomplished other than blowing up your pen in a losing effort? You have to weigh these things.

bing
08-18-2021, 01:36 PM
It's tempting to say that they HAVE to win this game, but they're all important games at this point in the season. The winning teams are doing just that.

Didn't like all of the people in the Wild card chase lose yesterday? SD has lost a few in the last few days....

TheBigLebowski
08-18-2021, 01:36 PM
Pretty big difference between saying Moose is fat and is going to die of a heart attack if he eats another plate of ribs and saying “he’s swing doesn’t look right” but sure.

Yeah. That’s exactly what I said.

You’re the biggest hypocrite on this site.

And now you’re out of my plane of vision.

KeefeCato
08-18-2021, 01:37 PM
Nice bounce back from Mahle.

OldFashionedRed
08-18-2021, 01:37 PM
He’s a rookie. He’ll be as good as Brandon Phillips soon.

He is damn good, but is that really a rookie mistake?

kaldaniels
08-18-2021, 01:38 PM
Oooh are we doing a Moustakas is “so fat” bit today?

GAC
08-18-2021, 01:38 PM
Mahle out of inning with none scoring. Good job team!

mhs95_06
08-18-2021, 01:38 PM
He’s a rookie. He’ll be as good as Brandon Phillips soon.

I'm worried about his shoulder handicapping him.

Powel Crosley
08-18-2021, 01:39 PM
Props to Mahle for getting out of the inning.

RedTeamGo!
08-18-2021, 01:40 PM
Yeah. That’s exactly what I said.

You’re the biggest hypocrite on this site.

And now you’re out of my plane of vision.

I didn’t say you said that. A bunch of posters were calling him fat in that thread I assumed you were referring to and one even made a quip about him dying of a heart attack if he had another plate of ribs.

Calm down, Francis.

KeefeCato
08-18-2021, 01:40 PM
Oooh are we doing a Moustakas is “so fat” bit today?

I hope not. One poster has wore that out last few days.

bing
08-18-2021, 01:40 PM
Scoring 3 runs sounds about right in this inning. Probably one HR, then a few base hits.

OldFashionedRed
08-18-2021, 01:40 PM
Didn't like all of the people in the Wild card chase lose yesterday? SD has lost a few in the last few days....

Our sights shouldn't be on the last wild card spot. You aim for winning ALL of your games (not realistic, but surely you get my point), and when the bar is set high, things tend to turn out better than they would had you chose to set a lower bar. You strive to win, and if you don't win enough games for the division lead, then you make the top wildcard spot, and so on. That's my frustration with this club. Lack of focus.

RedTeamGo!
08-18-2021, 01:43 PM
Our sights shouldn't be on the last wild card spot. You aim for winning ALL of your games (not realistic, but surely you get my point), and when the bar is set high, things tend to turn out better than they would had you chose to set a lower bar. You strive to win, and if you don't win enough games for the division lead, then you make the top wildcard spot, and so on. That's my frustration with this club. Lack of focus.

Bro, they aren’t catching the Brewers. They need to win the WC.

Tom Servo
08-18-2021, 01:43 PM
Our sights shouldn't be on the last wild card spot. You aim for winning ALL of your games (not realistic, but surely you get my point), and when the bar is set high, things tend to turn out better than they would had you chose to set a lower bar. You strive to win, and if you don't win enough games for the division lead, then you make the top wildcard spot, and so on. That's my frustration with this club. Lack of focus.
I’m sure they’re focused I just wonder if they lack a killer edge. Castellanos said something to the effect yesterday of “does getting pissed off about this loss actually help us moving forward” and I feel like the answer should be yeah. It’s one thing to just get outplayed but the hitting performance yesterday was not up to snuff and now neither is Mahle’s performance today. You should be pissed off that you’re not playing better against these guys, even if you win the game or lose.

BCubb2003
08-18-2021, 01:44 PM
He is damn good, but is that really a rookie mistake?

I think so. Knowing when not to force a play. The injured shoulder is a good point too, though.

OldFashionedRed
08-18-2021, 01:45 PM
Bro, they aren’t catching the Brewers. They need to win the WC.

Not a bro, sorry. My point still stands. You aim for winning your games, and get the best spot you can get.

OldFashionedRed
08-18-2021, 01:47 PM
I’m sure they’re focused I just wonder if they lack a killer edge. Castellanos said something to the effect yesterday of “does getting pissed off about this loss actually help us moving forward” and I feel like the answer should be yeah. It’s one thing to just get outplayed but the hitting performance yesterday was not up to snuff and now neither is Mahle’s performance today. You should be pissed off that you’re not playing better against these guys, even if you win the game or lose.

That's actually what I was going for, but didn't want to deal with the "prove they don't have an edge" types. ��

TexasRedsFan
08-18-2021, 01:47 PM
Unbelievable. We may actually lose a series to the no name Cubs.

KeefeCato
08-18-2021, 01:47 PM
Not a bro, sorry. My point still stands. You aim for winning your games, and get the best spot you can get.

Pretty sure that is what they are trying to do.

kaldaniels
08-18-2021, 01:47 PM
Not a bro, sorry. My point still stands. You aim for winning your games, and get the best spot you can get.

I don’t understand why anyone should try to fool themselves into thinking we will catch Milwaukee.

Of course you try to win every game but we are talking about 2 different things here.

RedTeamGo!
08-18-2021, 01:48 PM
Not a bro, sorry. My point still stands. You aim for winning your games, and get the best spot you can get.

“Bro” is just another way of saying “dude” or “buddy” on whatever, I work in freight, just kind of how I talk, haha.

kaldaniels
08-18-2021, 01:49 PM
“Bro” is just another way of saying “dude” or “buddy” on whatever, I work in freight, just kind of how I talk, haha.

Oh. I thought you were implying he wears Axe body spray.

mhs95_06
08-18-2021, 01:49 PM
Time to have all plate appearances be concentrated and focused.

#4 and #5 hitters need to do this next inning after failing last time, giving Reds two outs before #6, #7, #8 took up the cause last time!

OldFashionedRed
08-18-2021, 01:50 PM
“Bro” is just another way of saying “dude” or “buddy” on whatever, I work in freight, just kind of how I talk, haha.

I also work in freight. Cheers. ��

RedTeamGo!
08-18-2021, 01:50 PM
Hahahaha is Arroyo making fun of Sadak with how he says hispanics names? Hahahahaha

OldFashionedRed
08-18-2021, 01:51 PM
Oh. I thought you were implying he wears Axe body spray.

Not a he, either. :laugh:

RedTeamGo!
08-18-2021, 01:52 PM
Not a he, either. :laugh:

Welcome aboard to the site, there is way too much sausage around here.

OldFashionedRed
08-18-2021, 01:53 PM
#4 and #5 hitters need to do this next inning after failing last time, giving Reds two outs before #6, #7, #8 took up the cause last time!

Putting the Barrero up there with India would have pushed the outs further down. If we were talking about playing a hot hand, I'd also wager putting Naquin in the #4 spot.

RedTeamGo!
08-18-2021, 01:53 PM
I also work in freight. Cheers. ��

Nice! TQL?

kaldaniels
08-18-2021, 01:54 PM
Hmm Garrett (basketball) and Schwindel went to SJU the same years. Wonder if they know each other.

OldFashionedRed
08-18-2021, 01:54 PM
Welcome aboard to the site, there is way too much sausage around here.

As long as it's flags at full mast, and no sword fighting. :lol:

OldFashionedRed
08-18-2021, 01:55 PM
Nice! TQL?

Don't want to say, sorry. I work in freight acceptance (and rejection).

Wonderful Monds
08-18-2021, 01:56 PM
Can’t lose a series to the Des Moines Cubs who just lost 11 straight coming in if you’re pretending to be a playoff team.

Redsfan5
08-18-2021, 01:56 PM
LeCure looks like My Name is Earl


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mhs95_06
08-18-2021, 01:56 PM
Moose, we are down 4, we don't need weak efforts at HRs!

BCubb2003
08-18-2021, 01:58 PM
Sam LeCure is Ted Lasso’s evil twin.

Tom Servo
08-18-2021, 01:58 PM
The Reds are no match for the mighty Sampson

Redsfan5
08-18-2021, 02:01 PM
LeCure looks like Earl Hickey


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mgbrown66
08-18-2021, 02:08 PM
Can’t lose a series to the Des Moines Cubs who just lost 11 straight coming in if you’re pretending to be a playoff team.

Iowa Cubs!

Tom Servo
08-18-2021, 02:09 PM
another bottom of the order rally snuffed out

OldFashionedRed
08-18-2021, 02:09 PM
No excuse for that. With two strikes, you defend the plate. Case closed.

Ky Fried Redleg
08-18-2021, 02:13 PM
This series may propel the Cubs to a 60-win season.

reds0922
08-18-2021, 02:14 PM
score 14 runs , change the line up , Votto 2 batter? could have batted him 3 or 4 and had Stevenson 4 or 5 to protect him.

reds0922
08-18-2021, 02:17 PM
All these 3rd strikes looking, cmon protect the plate.

Boston Red
08-18-2021, 02:19 PM
Not a good outing for Mahle, obviously, but at least he steadied himself and gave us a chance to get back in it.

BCubb2003
08-18-2021, 02:24 PM
Not a good outing for Mahle, obviously, but at least he steadied himself and gave us a chance to get back in it.

A brief blip that came at the wrong time, but it’s better than throwing him on the scrap heap.

TheBigLebowski
08-18-2021, 02:25 PM
Sam LeCure is Ted Lasso’s evil twin.

17576

Glad I’m not the only one who noticed that.

mhs95_06
08-18-2021, 02:26 PM
Not a good outing for Mahle, obviously, but at least he steadied himself and gave us a chance to get back in it.

And the Reds' offense dawdled too long and gave away their chance to get to Sampson!

Boston Red
08-18-2021, 02:26 PM
The great Manuel Rodriguez just mowed us down. Wow.

TheBigLebowski
08-18-2021, 02:26 PM
What the blue blazes are they doing out there?

mgbrown66
08-18-2021, 02:26 PM
The Cubs bullpen suddenly looks like the freaking Nasty Boys. WTF?

Alabama Red
08-18-2021, 02:27 PM
That guy just mowed em down.

Tom Servo
08-18-2021, 02:28 PM
Maybe the offense wants to make Mahle feel like this wasn’t his fault.

BluegrassRedleg
08-18-2021, 02:29 PM
This is a disgrace.


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Ky Fried Redleg
08-18-2021, 02:30 PM
Hope we can at least get a split with fighting Fish.

NatiRedGals
08-18-2021, 02:30 PM
Hoffman gotta go now since heath is gone

50YrRedsFan
08-18-2021, 02:32 PM
Just a pathetic display by the Reds yesterday and today.

mgbrown66
08-18-2021, 02:32 PM
Losing to the Bad News Bears. How long have I been asleep?

Ky Fried Redleg
08-18-2021, 02:32 PM
Alcantara has batted a robust .160 in his last 42 games. Great job, Hoffy !!!

Ky Fried Redleg
08-18-2021, 02:33 PM
Just a pathetic display by the Reds yesterday and today.

Why is that, do you think? I mean, surely there is some sense of urgency here... you would think.

JP321
08-18-2021, 02:34 PM
With Winker out, Votto and India kind of cooling off.... offense is pretty meh right now. Gotta get some guys going to keep pace

Roy Tucker
08-18-2021, 02:35 PM
Sleeping bats. Someone wake them up. Set an alarm clock or dump a bucket of cold water or something.

TheBigLebowski
08-18-2021, 02:36 PM
12 outs left. At least need 5.

Scored 14, 2, and today maybe 1 (gotta think they get at least one more).

5.666 (repeating, of course) runs per game, which sounds ok until you investigate where the stats are hoping you don’t look.

Boston Red
08-18-2021, 02:37 PM
Hoffman could do this

Proving it

Redsfan5
08-18-2021, 02:37 PM
17577
Wake up Bats


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Reds Fanatic
08-18-2021, 02:37 PM
With Winker out, Votto and India kind of cooling off.... offense is pretty meh right now. Gotta get some guys going to keep pace

Plus we have Moustakas batting cleanup. He has been awful batting .160 since his return.

JP321
08-18-2021, 02:40 PM
Plus we have Moustakas batting cleanup. He has been awful batting .160 since his return.

I'm a fan of Moose, but he is definitely struggling. Lucky for us SD is also losing to bad teams, so as bad as this 2 game stretch may seem, the Reds are still right there. Long way to go for that WC spot

BCubb2003
08-18-2021, 02:41 PM
This lineup is deep but thin, a powerhouse that can be shut down.

Alabama Red
08-18-2021, 02:41 PM
All the team had to do was beat bad teams to get the WC spot and they can’t score against the Cubs.

KeefeCato
08-18-2021, 02:41 PM
I'm a fan of Moose, but he is definitely struggling. Lucky for us SD is also losing to bad teams, so as bad as this 2 game stretch may seem, the Reds are still right there. Long way to go for that WC spot

I hated seeing the Cubs come here on a 11 game losing streak. Even bad teams rarely lose 14-15 games in a row.

Alabama Red
08-18-2021, 02:42 PM
I'm a fan of Moose, but he is definitely struggling. Lucky for us SD is also losing to bad teams, so as bad as this 2 game stretch may seem, the Reds are still right there. Long way to go for that WC spot
But we’re letting the Cardinals and Phillies stay alive.

KronoRed
08-18-2021, 02:42 PM
2 runs in 2 days....

JP321
08-18-2021, 02:43 PM
All the team had to do was beat bad teams to get the WC spot and they can’t score against the Cubs.

And SD could have gained ground by beating ARZ and COL... and they have gotten beat a lot. We just don't need to panic over a 2 game stretch. If we play Miami and it continues, might be different conversation

Roy Tucker
08-18-2021, 02:43 PM
Not to be trite, but this is why they play the games. You just don’t know what’s going to happen.

Ky Fried Redleg
08-18-2021, 02:44 PM
Less Moose... A lot less, please. He's lost at the plate.

JohnnyBench5
08-18-2021, 02:45 PM
Let's go Red Legs...need to pull one out of the fire!

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dakota42
08-18-2021, 02:45 PM
Man our offense has gone dead the past 2 days.

JP321
08-18-2021, 02:46 PM
Baseball is a tough and unpredictable game. We smacked Wheeler around the other day, and then Moore damn near no hit us. Sh*t happens

Tom Servo
08-18-2021, 02:46 PM
This is all because they cut Heath Hembree

KeefeCato
08-18-2021, 02:50 PM
Why has Hoffman thrown so many innings of late?

AG Slater
08-18-2021, 02:51 PM
It's the second inning...

What inning is it now? I'm waiting for all the people to say it's just one game just one series. Move on....

Tom Servo
08-18-2021, 02:52 PM
What inning is it now? I'm waiting for all the people to say it's just one game just one series. Move on....
If the seasons over that means you can stop posting.

GAC
08-18-2021, 02:54 PM
Game ain't over till the fat lady sings .... or Moose! ;)

forfreelin04
08-18-2021, 02:55 PM
They left all their runs on the field on Monday. Yeeeeesssh :thumbdown:

AG Slater
08-18-2021, 02:56 PM
Man our offense has gone dead the past 2 days.

2021 reds. Score 14 runs one game and 1 each of next 2

WildcatFan
08-18-2021, 03:04 PM
Went from Slater to Screech in a hurry.

mhs95_06
08-18-2021, 03:05 PM
Doolittle gets a strike call on a pitch 2+ ball widths outside!

mhs95_06
08-18-2021, 03:06 PM
Doolittle gets a strike call on a pitch 2+ ball widths outside!

Gets him on the next pitch, then promptly gets another one 1+ ball width outside, and then he Ks him for a gifted shutout inning!

Phoenix2
08-18-2021, 03:10 PM
Very discouraging as the Reds have been good at pounding the bad teams. This series the Cubs have nothing to play for, the Reds have everything to play for....and the Reds are infinitely more talented than this Cubs team on the field that came in on a 12 game slide. Yet going to lose the series. Dang. Gonna have to look inside and get angry that this happened and go on a winning streak.

OldFashionedRed
08-18-2021, 03:16 PM
I really don't understand how a club can have such a poor approach at the plate in such a crucial game. You don't need homeruns, you need baserunners. Swinging at balls in the dirt, taking pitches down broadway. Where does the blame come from? The lineup was put together poorly yet again, so there's that. But, is the rest on hitting coach House? Is it a chemistry thing? Adding these guys off the DL. Has that caused other players to feel pressure and start pressing at the plate? Is it Bell? The talent is there. Good, not great, starting pitching. Okay to good bullpen. Lots of power. Maybe their record is what they are.

Boss-Hog
08-18-2021, 03:17 PM
I don't think an explanation is necessary, but AG Slater is now gone.

RedTeamGo!
08-18-2021, 03:18 PM
Lol

redsfan9988
08-18-2021, 03:18 PM
Apparently having Suarez in the lineup does inspire the rest of the team to hit.

This seems like a blip. Let’s see how it goes against MIA. That said, the Cubs roster is sub-Pirates-level right now. I mean… these guys are playing for jobs - I get that. But thoroughly dominated by a staff that came in giving up like 8 runs/game.

Unfortunate.

OldFashionedRed
08-18-2021, 03:18 PM
If you're going to break that bat, then do it Moose. Slam it on that knee :laugh:

Redsfan5
08-18-2021, 03:19 PM
Moose needs to hit the gym
His swing is off


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Red Raindog
08-18-2021, 03:19 PM
Moose got old during his down time


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Wonderful Monds
08-18-2021, 03:20 PM
I don't think an explanation is necessary, but AG Slater is now gone.

At least his account died doing what it loved: being extremely annoying

Redsfan5
08-18-2021, 03:21 PM
I heard Slater hangs out with Sadek


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Alabama Red
08-18-2021, 03:22 PM
Key pieces of this team just haven’t shown up this season. Moose, Suarez and Garrett. Then Castillo was MIA for the first two months. Thank goodness Naquin, Farmer, India, Stephenson and Vlad have exceeded expectations.

CrackerJack
08-18-2021, 03:22 PM
I don't think an explanation is necessary, but AG Slater is now gone.

He seemed to be very emotionally distraught over pro sports, and maybe needs to re-evaluate the priorities in his life.

Wonderful Monds
08-18-2021, 03:22 PM
Apparently having Suarez in the lineup does inspire the rest of the team to hit.

This seems like a blip. Let’s see how it goes against MIA. That said, the Cubs roster is sub-Pirates-level right now. I mean… these guys are playing for jobs - I get that. But thoroughly dominated by a staff that came in giving up like 8 runs/game.

Unfortunate.

Maybe it’s like when you go blind and all your other senses become enhanced. I was wrong folks, run Geno out there everyday.

KeefeCato
08-18-2021, 03:22 PM
Apparently having Suarez in the lineup does inspire the rest of the team to hit.

This seems like a blip. Let’s see how it goes against MIA. That said, the Cubs roster is sub-Pirates-level right now. I mean… these guys are playing for jobs - I get that. But thoroughly dominated by a staff that came in giving up like 8 runs/game.

Unfortunate.

I go back to the 11 game losing streak heading into this series. Even bad teams rarely have losing streaks of more than a dozen. Ortega has killed RHP and there 1b is on fire. And of course Happ owns the Reds. Losing 2 of 3 stings though. I get not sweeping them. But you really need to win the series.

reds0922
08-18-2021, 03:24 PM
Its pretty much on Bell and the Crap line up, They score 14 runs, why not keep that line up , Batting Voto 2 cmon.(that one move had effects up and down the lineup. Having NO SHOWGO batting for Mahle , thats a joke , just trading outs, At least Suarez has a possibility of going yard. Bell has no "feel" for his team , especially true with the Bullpen but now hes managing to screw up the line up too.

TexasRedsFan
08-18-2021, 03:25 PM
Even the worst MLB teams manage to win 60 games and even the best teams usually lose at least 60. It's a long season and slumps and losses are gonna happen. Possible they let up and lost a little focus after Monday's blowout.

I just hope they can sweep the Marlins to help make up for this poor showing.

Larry Schuler
08-18-2021, 03:26 PM
This is on the fans. You can’t hit the ball with weak bones.

OldFashionedRed
08-18-2021, 03:26 PM
Damn, that was impressive. Barrero :eek:

TexasRedsFan
08-18-2021, 03:27 PM
Its pretty much on Bell and the Crap line up, They score 14 runs, why not keep that line up , Batting Voto 2 cmon.(that one move had effects up and down the lineup. Having NO SHOWGO batting for Mahle , thats a joke , just trading outs, At least Suarez has a possibility of going yard. Bell has no "feel" for his team , especially true with the Bullpen but now hes managing to screw up the line up too.

The biggest factor in this series is not having Winker in the lineup. If he's in there, I think they sweep easily. With Moose also terribly slumping, we are very weak from the left side.

757690
08-18-2021, 03:27 PM
In just one game it’s clear that Barrero would have been a big defensive improvement alone.

mhs95_06
08-18-2021, 03:28 PM
After a great DP, which gets a runner to 3rd with 2 out, the Cubs score like taking candy from a baby! Wilson gets his due from walking the first two batters!

OldFashionedRed
08-18-2021, 03:28 PM
Why was no one covering the bunt?

reds0922
08-18-2021, 03:30 PM
Man a bunt for a run,SHOGO were you watching??

WildcatFan
08-18-2021, 03:31 PM
I don't think an explanation is necessary, but AG Slater is now gone.

He was my friend, and I will miss him.

redsfan9988
08-18-2021, 03:33 PM
Reds opened at -370 today. Somebody made some money. Hopefully this will wake them from their slumber… a few notes:

Farmer at 3B; Barerro at SS. Pretty much every day

Just play Shogo in CF and Naquin in left. None of these OFers are going to hit. Might as well go for defense. Aquino can play LF v. Lefties - I think Shogo hits them reasonable well.

We need Winker back

Mahle wasn’t good today - dug an early hole - but these guys weren’t beating anybody today.

I feel like we are 1-89 with 0.2 R/g in day games over the last few years. Gotta get better sunglasses or something.

OldFashionedRed
08-18-2021, 03:35 PM
Reds have (team strikeouts):
20th worst 9.03 in 2021
21st worst 9.06 in 2020
27th worst 9.30 at home
25th worst 7.00 last 3 games

Ky Fried Redleg
08-18-2021, 03:38 PM
Sadak representing as PLATO.

Tom Servo
08-18-2021, 03:40 PM
Two solo HRs over two games at home is really bad against anybody, it’s downright awful against these Cubs.

TheBigLebowski
08-18-2021, 03:40 PM
Putrid. Wow

OldFashionedRed
08-18-2021, 03:43 PM
Tomorrow the lineup needs to be:

1. India (2B)
2. Barrero (SS)
3. Votto (1B)
4. Castellanos (RF)
5. Stephenson (C)
6. Akiyama (CF)
7. Naquin (LF)
8. Suarez (3B)
9. PITCHER

BENCH
1. Barnhart
2. Aquino
3. Moose

Ky Fried Redleg
08-18-2021, 03:45 PM
The same energy, effort, and lack of execution against the fish will result in a 1-3 series and 2-5 homestand.

reds0922
08-18-2021, 03:49 PM
Naquin is going to hit a 100% better than NO SHOWGO Aquino is almost a sure out but he has the possibility of going yard. Shogo offers ZILCH at the plate, many times he could have used his speed and put down a bunt and contribute to the team. He is either unwilling or cant learn to bunt, either way he brings nothing to the table and is pretty much a out waiting to happen.

OldFashionedRed
08-18-2021, 03:56 PM
Naquin is going to hit a 100% better than NO SHOWGO Aquino is almost a sure out but he has the possibility of going yard. Shogo offers ZILCH at the plate, many times he could have used his speed and put down a bunt and contribute to the team. He is either unwilling or cant learn to bunt, either way he brings nothing to the table and is pretty much a out waiting to happen.

IMO, a way around that is keep Shogo in for the early innings, for defense. This would allow the pitchers to get into their groove. If the offense doesn't score some runs by the 6th inning or so, then you take out Shogo and slide Naquin to CF. Slide Castellanos to LF and insert Aquino into RF. This keeps the bat out of Aquino's arms for most of the game, and allows Shogo to keep the game close with his defense. I don't think you want a bench of Moose and Shogo, with Launch Angle Barnhart your only option.

reds0922
08-18-2021, 03:56 PM
NO MORE SHOGO,put Farmer(not an outfielder) but would be better than either Aquino OR SHOGO , Farmer has been one of the Reds better hitters, has EARNED a spot, Put him at third and Barrero to short. Moose and Suarez stinking up the place but at least Suarez may hit one out every 20 or 30 at bats. If Moose ,Shogo and Aquino are ever in the same starting lineup thats like giving the opposition 4 almost automatic outs each time through the line up.

Ron Madden
08-18-2021, 03:57 PM
Whenever any team is not hitting it just looks like there is no energy or effort.

I believe this team always puts forth the effort.

NebraskaRed
08-18-2021, 04:17 PM
At least his account died doing what it loved: being extremely annoying

I don't know what I missed but I'm glad I missed it

Maldez
08-18-2021, 05:10 PM
Whenever any team is not hitting it just looks like there is no energy or effort.

I believe this team always puts forth the effort.

Yep, nobody laid down today...just a hit-less mess.

OldFashionedRed
08-18-2021, 05:18 PM
A vast improvement would be take a more aggressive approach at the plate with 2 strikes. I get taking pitches to work the count, but when you've got strikes start hacking. If you don't swing, you're not giving yourself a chance. The team strikeout totals I posted earlier bear that out.

Larry Schuler
08-18-2021, 05:26 PM
At least his account died doing what it loved: being extremely annoying

Does this ban protect against the AG Tau variant?

DocRed
08-18-2021, 06:27 PM
Absolutely pathetic job by this offense in the midst of a playoff chase...

kaldaniels
08-18-2021, 06:34 PM
I don't think an explanation is necessary, but AG Slater is now gone.

Good riddance.

I’m more of an AC Slater fan anyway.

elrojo
08-18-2021, 08:50 PM
Nothing like getting to the easy part of the schedule, is there?

Ky Fried Redleg
08-18-2021, 09:07 PM
Nothing like getting to the easy part of the schedule, is there?

It can be a trap, for sure. It's easy to lose a little focus, energy, and playoff atmosphere edge that good teams play with when they are contending for postseason baseball. The Reds had all of that in Philly but lacked it the last two games against the Cubs. They really need to recapture that edge they've been playing with. Need at least three against the fish.

KeefeCato
08-18-2021, 09:30 PM
It can be a trap, for sure. It's easy to lose a little focus, energy, and playoff atmosphere edge that good teams play with when they are contending for postseason baseball. The Reds had all of that in Philly but lacked it the last two games against the Cubs. They really need to recapture that edge they've been playing with. Need at least three against the fish.

Hopefully the home crowds will be bigger starting Fri. Crowds are always low during weekday/night games after school takes back up. But this year should be different this team has a very good shot at being a wildcard team. I thought the crowds were pretty bad. I am 3 hours away and in bad health. If I could I would be there often.

Ky Fried Redleg
08-18-2021, 10:02 PM
Hopefully the home crowds will be bigger starting Fri. Crowds are always low during weekday/night games after school takes back up. But this year should be different this team has a very good shot at being a wildcard team. I thought the crowds were pretty bad. I am 3 hours away and in bad health. If I could I would be there often.

I hope so, too. The crowds have been great at GABP this summer, for the most part. Not so much against the Cubs. The crowd energy and the Reds' energy the last two games were subpar. Hoping for a spirited, focused , winning weekend of baseball.