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Ron Madden
08-22-2021, 09:24 AM
Reds
1. Tyler Naquin (L) LF
2. Tyler Stephenson (R) C
3. Nick Castellanos (R) RF
4. Joey Votto (L) 1B
5. Kyle Farmer (R) SS
6. Mike Moustakas (L) 3B
7. Jose Barrero (R) 2B
8. Shogo Akiyama (L) CF
9. Vladimir Gutierrez (R) P

Marlins
1. Miguel Rojas (R) SS
2. Jazz Chisholm Jr. (L) 2B
3. Jesus Aguilar (R) 1B
4. Jesus Sanchez (L) RF
5. Lewis Brinson (R) CF
6. Isan Diaz (L) 3B
7. Sandy Leon (S) C
8. Bryan De La Cruz (R) LF
9. Sandy Alcantara (R) P

Alf_Red_E
08-22-2021, 10:29 AM
I was wondering when JI would get a day off to rest

Ron Madden
08-22-2021, 10:39 AM
Charlie Goldsmith @CharlieG__

David Bell says this is just a day off for Jonathan India. “Just simply staying ahead of it. Who knows, maybe this is the last one."

JFLegal
08-22-2021, 11:06 AM
i like "who knows, maybe this is the last one."

Larry Schuler
08-22-2021, 11:06 AM
I woke up early today to get some extra hours of always believing in. I’m hoping the rest of this beautiful city did the same for our boys.

JCM11
08-22-2021, 11:07 AM
Votto isn't going to get much to hit with Kyle Farmer protecting him. Should at least have Stephenson batting after him.

Big Klu
08-22-2021, 11:19 AM
Jonathan Pipp

Kc61
08-22-2021, 11:38 AM
Votto isn't going to get much to hit with Kyle Farmer protecting him. Should at least have Stephenson batting after him.

Farmer has a ten game hit streak and hit safely in 25 of his last 27 games. He’s at .696 OPS in August, but well over .900 for the second half and about league average for the season (95 wRC+, 100 league ave.). 803 OPS with RISP. Votto should get some pitches to hit.

Wonderful Monds
08-22-2021, 11:45 AM
Farmer has a ten game hit streak and hit safely in 25 of his last 27 games. He’s at .696 OPS in August, but well over .900 for the second half and about league average for the season (95 wRC+, 100 league ave.). 803 OPS with RISP. Votto should get some pitches to hit.

A hit streak doesn’t really mean a whole lot if you’re still OPSing in the low 700s during that span. He’s been an adequate hitter for a SS, but that’s still not the guy you want protecting Votto.

Tadasimha
08-22-2021, 11:49 AM
Lineup is tied together nicely

Mitri
08-22-2021, 12:07 PM
A hit streak doesn’t really mean a whole lot if you’re still OPSing in the low 700s during that span. He’s been an adequate hitter for a SS, but that’s still not the guy you want protecting Votto.

I’d flip Naquin and Farm Dawg with India getting a rest. Not a ton of options when Da Wink is missing.

Ironman92
08-22-2021, 12:20 PM
Votto isn't going to get much to hit with Kyle Farmer protecting him. Should at least have Stephenson batting after him.

Then he can walk and Kyle can drive them in for the win.

Kc61
08-22-2021, 12:39 PM
A hit streak doesn’t really mean a whole lot if you’re still OPSing in the low 700s during that span. He’s been an adequate hitter for a SS, but that’s still not the guy you want protecting Votto.

A hit streak means the guy is hitting with some consistency. Farmer, though no longer a hot hitter, has maintained consistency and has continued to be productive in key spots.

The negativity about Farmer on here is disappointing since he has contributed so much to the Reds this year.

KeefeCato
08-22-2021, 12:46 PM
Farmer has a ten game hit streak and hit safely in 25 of his last 27 games. He’s at .696 OPS in August, but well over .900 for the second half and about league average for the season (95 wRC+, 100 league ave.). 803 OPS with RISP. Votto should get some pitches to hit.

Barrero is starting today. So have to find something else to complain about. Today is it Votto's protection.

TheBigLebowski
08-22-2021, 12:56 PM
Kyle Farmer may well be one of the most underappreciated Reds ever.

He’s going to go 6-5 today. In his last AB he’s going to HR and Run Forrest Run around the bases twice. It’s not explicitly forbidden.

KeefeCato
08-22-2021, 12:58 PM
Get the Sweep!!!

TheBigLebowski
08-22-2021, 12:59 PM
A hit streak means the guy is hitting with some consistency. Farmer, though no longer a hot hitter, has maintained consistency and has continued to be productive in key spots.

The negativity about Farmer on here is disappointing since he has contributed so much to the Reds this year.

It’s not disappointing - it’s downright insulting. I know I can be a bit off base with my criticism sometimes, but I’ll yield when it’s obvious I’m wrong.

KeefeCato
08-22-2021, 01:06 PM
It’s not disappointing - it’s downright insulting. I know I can be a bit off base with my criticism sometimes, but I’ll yield when it’s obvious I’m wrong.

The Reds would not be where they are right now without Farmer.

Ironman92
08-22-2021, 01:09 PM
Barrero is starting today. So have to find something else to complain about. Today is it Votto's protection.

Reds won the past two games with Farmer hitting behind Votto

KeefeCato
08-22-2021, 01:16 PM
Reds won the past two games with Farmer hitting behind Votto

Yes they did. But some are not happy unless complaining about something. Last several days it was Barrero needs to start. So had to switch to something else today.

KeefeCato
08-22-2021, 01:18 PM
Pretty amazing that Aguilar leads the league in RBI's playing for the Marlins. They do run a lot though. So hitters are getting on in front of him and stealing to get in scoring position.

Kc61
08-22-2021, 01:19 PM
Vlad with one of his more impressive innings.

757690
08-22-2021, 01:20 PM
Larkin has improved on one major area of announcing. He’s not trying to fill every empty space with some comment. He allows for organic moments of silence and allows the viewer to just watch the game.

Tadasimha
08-22-2021, 01:20 PM
An efficient first for Vlad

JFLegal
08-22-2021, 01:22 PM
naquin is on fire

Big Klu
08-22-2021, 01:22 PM
Knock-ann!

Tadasimha
08-22-2021, 01:22 PM
You ain't seen nothing like the Mighty Naquin

757690
08-22-2021, 01:22 PM
Naquin says to India… “Hold My Beer”

GAC
08-22-2021, 01:23 PM
I like Naquin :D

Ky Fried Redleg
08-22-2021, 01:23 PM
TyNaq...HOLY SHEEAT!!!

KeefeCato
08-22-2021, 01:24 PM
How about Naquin? Picking up for Winker being out. Folks the 2021 Cincinnati Reds are a Team. Guys keep picking each other up.

GAC
08-22-2021, 01:24 PM
******** NFL Network blacking out my pre-season game. Bull****!

JFLegal
08-22-2021, 01:25 PM
How about Naquin? Picking up for Winker being out. Folks the 2021 Cincinnati Reds are a Team. Guys keep picking each other up.

gotta love it. some years just feel special. this is one of those.

JFLegal
08-22-2021, 01:26 PM
votto rips a single.

Ironman92
08-22-2021, 01:27 PM
Man Joey got a nice pitch to hit

Larry Schuler
08-22-2021, 01:27 PM
Votto’s skeletal structure was solid on that swing.

podgejeff_
08-22-2021, 01:28 PM
Note Lite

Ironman92
08-22-2021, 01:28 PM
Man they had the 2nd baseman as far over as I’ve seen. Farmer got robbed.

Ky Fried Redleg
08-22-2021, 01:29 PM
Baseballs looking like beachballs to Naquin and Votto .

Ky Fried Redleg
08-22-2021, 01:30 PM
Man Joey got a nice pitch to hit

I really can't understand why Joey gets a pitch anywhere near the plate.

Ironman92
08-22-2021, 01:30 PM
Baseballs looking like beachballs to Naquin and Votto .

Yeah….well Suarez and Moose think they are swinging at beach balls

podgejeff_
08-22-2021, 01:31 PM
Moose nearly made Sportscenter there.

Ironman92
08-22-2021, 01:31 PM
I really can't understand why Joey gets a pitch anywhere near the plate.

Because he has very few caught stealings in his long career

Ironman92
08-22-2021, 01:32 PM
Moose with a great effort [emoji122][emoji122][emoji122]

Ironman92
08-22-2021, 01:33 PM
Day you moron

Big Klu
08-22-2021, 01:33 PM
votto rips a single.

I've never seen anything like it. Anything he wants to do, he does. Home run, triple, single...

You sure you've never heard of him before?

https://lifevsfilm.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/sportswriter.jpg

Kc61
08-22-2021, 01:33 PM
Man they had the 2nd baseman as far over as I’ve seen. Farmer got robbed.

Seems like Farmer and some others are losing hits with defense playing up the middle. RHHs. Adjustment time.

Big Klu
08-22-2021, 01:34 PM
Yeah….well Suarez and Moose think they are swinging at beach balls

No, they are swinging with pool noodles.

Ky Fried Redleg
08-22-2021, 01:37 PM
Yeah….well Suarez and Moose think they are swinging at beach balls

Very true. Maybe they need to find a beach somewhere . LOL

Ironman92
08-22-2021, 01:38 PM
Seems like Farmer and some others are losing hits with defense playing up the middle. RHHs. Adjustment time.

He goes oppo a lot….that was SS land for sure and he smoked it

Big Klu
08-22-2021, 01:39 PM
Honestly, Suárez looks better at the plate than Moustakas does right now.

Looks better in the field, too.

Ironman92
08-22-2021, 01:40 PM
Naquin has 17 HR, 65 RBI and an .808 OPS

Ky Fried Redleg
08-22-2021, 01:40 PM
Moose < Mario Mendoza soon?

Ironman92
08-22-2021, 01:42 PM
To be fair this guy is no slouch on the mound

mhs95_06
08-22-2021, 01:42 PM
Shogo should have some chances to see if he can catch up with mph over 94 today!

Big Klu
08-22-2021, 01:42 PM
Moose < Mario Mendoza soon?

After the 2nd inning strikeout, he currently sits at .202.

Ky Fried Redleg
08-22-2021, 01:42 PM
Honestly, Suárez looks better at the plate than Moustakas does right now.

Looks better in the field, too.

Agree. And you would as well, BK.

Ky Fried Redleg
08-22-2021, 01:44 PM
To be fair this guy is no slouch on the mound

Has good stuff.

KeefeCato
08-22-2021, 01:45 PM
I would have started Aquino over Shogo. 100 MPH Fastball pitcher. With those two Bell needs to forget LH RH stuff. Shogo should start against avg. fastball/junk ball pitchers. Aquino should start against hard throwers.

Tom Servo
08-22-2021, 01:47 PM
I would have started Aquino over Shogo. 100 MPH Fastball pitcher. With those two Bell needs to forget LH RH stuff. Shogo should start against avg. fastball/junk ball pitchers. Aquino should start against hard throwers.
ehh I get the thinking but I really don't need to see extra AA at-bats, I'll take Shogo in CF and use Aquino off the bench later.

JFLegal
08-22-2021, 01:47 PM
great job in that AB by vlad to come back and get the K.

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then gets a ground out on the next pitch. very nice.

GAC
08-22-2021, 01:48 PM
Moose' timing is just way off. 2+ months on DL can do that.

JFLegal
08-22-2021, 01:48 PM
only 33 pitches through 3 innings for vlad.

Ironman92
08-22-2021, 01:48 PM
I would have started Aquino over Shogo. 100 MPH Fastball pitcher. With those two Bell needs to forget LH RH stuff. Shogo should start against avg. fastball/junk ball pitchers. Aquino should start against hard throwers.

There are certainly SO many factors besides lefty/righty

KeefeCato
08-22-2021, 01:48 PM
Vlad will face the Marlins again in his next start.

Tom Servo
08-22-2021, 01:48 PM
I still categorize myself as bearish on Vlad's longterm rotation prospects but when he's got it working he's definitely fun to watch. Certainly a pitcher more than a thrower, just a guy throwing everything and the kitchen sink to try and get outs.

TheBigLebowski
08-22-2021, 01:48 PM
Vlad’s brought the good stuff today

podgejeff_
08-22-2021, 01:48 PM
Vlad ate his Wheaties today.

JFLegal
08-22-2021, 01:49 PM
which is huge since there is an excellent chance all of givens, lorenzen, cessa and santillan are not available today.

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I still categorize myself as bearish on Vlad's longterm rotation prospects but when he's got it working he's definitely fun to watch. Certainly a pitcher more than a thrower, just a guy throwing everything and the kitchen sink to try and get outs.

there seems something deceptive about his delivery that breaks the analytics.

Ky Fried Redleg
08-22-2021, 01:49 PM
This Gutz guy is an impressive rookie. Conducts his business like a veteran.

Monster Man
08-22-2021, 01:50 PM
Moose' timing is just way off. 2+ months on DL can do that.

Gaining weight and looking out of shape doesn’t help either. Stuck with his big contract for two more years.

Tom Servo
08-22-2021, 01:50 PM
Gaining weight and looking out of shape doesn’t help either. Stuck with his big contract for two more years.
Okay

Bruce Berenyi
08-22-2021, 01:50 PM
i was wrong about aa, but shogo is the worst hitter of all he couldnt hit the ground if he was tossed out of airplane

GAC
08-22-2021, 01:51 PM
Sadak injured jogging?

TheBigLebowski
08-22-2021, 01:52 PM
Alcantara just hit 100 and no one even noticed. Crazy how many guys can do that now.

KeefeCato
08-22-2021, 01:53 PM
ehh I get the thinking but I really don't need to see extra AA at-bats, I'll take Shogo in CF and use Aquino off the bench later.

They have to go get a starting OFer next year. Castellanos is gone. I still view Naquin as a good 4th OFer starting a couple times a week player.
Do they give the SS job next year to Farmer and make Barrero the CFer? I wouldn't, but I guess it is a option. OF is going to be weak next season rolling with Winker and a bunch of backups.

Ironman92
08-22-2021, 01:54 PM
Jesus scoops

Monster Man
08-22-2021, 01:54 PM
Okay

Okay what? You’re happy with an injury-prone out of shape player with a 64 million dollar contact?

Ironman92
08-22-2021, 01:54 PM
Alcantara just hit 100 and no one even noticed. Crazy how many guys can do that now.

He averages 98 mph

mhs95_06
08-22-2021, 01:54 PM
only 33 pitches through 3 innings for vlad.

With that being on pace for a 99 pitch perfecto, and it feeling like 93F, he conserved his energy as much as possible in his AB!

TheBigLebowski
08-22-2021, 01:54 PM
I didn’t know Miley threw a hissy fit yesterday.

JFLegal
08-22-2021, 01:54 PM
don't like these quick ABs. this is a good pitcher. how bout trying to get his pitch count up? way too many guys hacking at the first pitch.

Tadasimha
08-22-2021, 01:55 PM
Alcantara settling in now; that early run looking key

JFLegal
08-22-2021, 01:55 PM
Sadak injured jogging?

yes, tripped and fell on both elbows, and broke both elbows.

KeefeCato
08-22-2021, 01:56 PM
Alcantara just hit 100 and no one even noticed. Crazy how many guys can do that now.

I think Day said that since June he has hit 100 plus more than any pitcher in the majors.

GAC
08-22-2021, 01:56 PM
Why is everyone so sure Castellanos is gone after this season? I don't

mhs95_06
08-22-2021, 01:57 PM
Sadak injured jogging?

Seems like he must have tripped on a curb or something, and came down full weight, half on each arm extended, and neither elbow was able to maintain structure!

JFLegal
08-22-2021, 01:57 PM
where the hell did the 0-1 pitch miss?

TheBigLebowski
08-22-2021, 01:58 PM
Why is everyone so sure Castellanos is gone after this season? I don't

They don’t think it’s the way it’s gonna be, but it do

Ky Fried Redleg
08-22-2021, 01:58 PM
Gaining weight and looking out of shape doesn’t help either. Stuck with his big contract for two more years.

You will get flak for that but, you're right, it doesn't help. He's going to the dish not expecting success. You can see it in his demeanor and his swing.

KeefeCato
08-22-2021, 01:58 PM
Why is everyone so sure Castellanos is gone after this season? I don't

He 100% will take the money and run. Only way he stays in Cincinnati is if the Reds overpay.

JFLegal
08-22-2021, 01:58 PM
Why is everyone so sure Castellanos is gone after this season? I don't

well, he will definitely opt out IMO. then it's a question of what the reds will offer him. might take 5-years, $100M.

Kc61
08-22-2021, 01:58 PM
Assuming Reds will try to rest both Givens and Lorenzen today. Certainly Givens.

If this games stays close it might be in the hands of secondary relievers.

Alabama Red
08-22-2021, 01:58 PM
They have to go get a starting OFer next year. Castellanos is gone. I still view Naquin as a good 4th OFer starting a couple times a week player.
Do they give the SS job next year to Farmer and make Barrero the CFer? I wouldn't, but I guess it is a option. OF is going to be weak next season rolling with Winker and a bunch of backups.
If cast thinks the organization is committed to winning he may stay. I think the Reds shouldn’t pick up the option in Gray and use that savings for Cast. The Reeds are about to have a really cheap starting rotation over the next few years. VG, HG, TM, NL and someone else. They could maybe even keep Castillo when he is out of control. The Reds will have to pay up for Cast and with Moose and Suarez stuck with the team Gray is expendable.

Tadasimha
08-22-2021, 01:59 PM
Cancel the press conference

TheBigLebowski
08-22-2021, 01:59 PM
I think Day said that since June he has hit 100 plus more than any pitcher in the majors.

Had no idea

Tom Servo
08-22-2021, 01:59 PM
Okay what? You’re happy with an injury-prone out of shape player with a 64 million dollar contact?
He’s always been a big guy and I’m not concerned about his contract. Stop pocket watching and get your own bread up, player

GAC
08-22-2021, 01:59 PM
Don't care much for Day as an announcer.

JFLegal
08-22-2021, 01:59 PM
Assuming Reds will try to rest both Givens and Lorenzen today. Certainly Givens.

If this games stays close it might be in the hands of secondary relievers.

lorezen for sure too. he had a multi-inning save last night. can't see bringing him back the next day, especially with his lack of innings this year.

Alabama Red
08-22-2021, 02:00 PM
Vlad’s hat even has tattoos.

Kc61
08-22-2021, 02:00 PM
well, he will definitely opt out IMO. then it's a question of what the reds will offer him. might take 5-years, $100M.

Cast likely opts out and a DH likely added. So Reds may have two spots to fill, likely outfielders.

I’d like to see one hitter and one CFer. If Castellanos can be the hitter, all the better.

JFLegal
08-22-2021, 02:01 PM
man, almost a great play by barrero. still a good play.

Ky Fried Redleg
08-22-2021, 02:01 PM
You’re happy with an injury-prone out of shape player with a 64 million dollar contact?

No, not in the least!!!

GAC
08-22-2021, 02:01 PM
Nice play Barrero

JFLegal
08-22-2021, 02:02 PM
Cast likely opts out and a DH likely added. So Reds may have two spots to fill, likely outfielders.

I’d like to see one hitter and one CFer. If Castellanos can be the hitter, all the better.

"likely"? i would say he will definitely opt out.

Monster Man
08-22-2021, 02:03 PM
He’s always been a big guy and I’m not concerned about his contract. Stop pocket watching and get your own bread up, player

Okay, paying an out of shape, injury-prone, “big” guy currently batting .202 is acceptable. Got it!

Bruce Berenyi
08-22-2021, 02:04 PM
yes its acceptable because he is not a jabroni

mhs95_06
08-22-2021, 02:04 PM
man, almost a great play by barrero. still a good play.

That play will help Barrero learn the proper play is to take a quick dart throw to 2nd for the force and an opportunity for a DP, rather than chase a tag from that far away and give up the DP chance!

Alabama Red
08-22-2021, 02:05 PM
Okay, paying an out of shape, injury-prone, “big” guy currently batting .202 is acceptable. Got it!

The Reds will get rid of either Suarez or Moose this off-season and they’ll have to eat the contract. We just have too many players and the pieces don’t fit together.

KeefeCato
08-22-2021, 02:05 PM
Cast likely opts out and a DH likely added. So Reds may have two spots to fill, likely outfielders.

I’d like to see one hitter and one CFer. If Castellanos can be the hitter, all the better.

Offence is really going to need Moose and Suarez to bounce back next season. With the weak OF. Unless someone is added. I expect we will see one of Moose or Suarez at DH a bunch. I see Winker in LF way more than at DH next year. For the simple fact of how weak the OF may be.

JFLegal
08-22-2021, 02:06 PM
JFC

GAC
08-22-2021, 02:07 PM
The Reds are not going to eat Moose or Suarez' contract.

mhs95_06
08-22-2021, 02:07 PM
yes its acceptable because he is not a jabroni

If its un-acceptible what can the Reds do about it that?

podgejeff_
08-22-2021, 02:07 PM
The Reds will get rid of either Suarez or Moose this off-season and they’ll have to eat the contract. We just have too many players and the pieces don’t fit together.

Nah. They'll keep them both.

Ironman92
08-22-2021, 02:07 PM
Pitching outside during extreme shifts is dumb

mhs95_06
08-22-2021, 02:08 PM
That RBI single down the line looked like a double breaking putt before it got to Moose! A DP would have saved that run!

podgejeff_
08-22-2021, 02:08 PM
Cool catch by Barrero.

Tom Servo
08-22-2021, 02:08 PM
Pitching outside during extreme shifts is dumb
Yeah Vlad kinda brought that one on himself

mhs95_06
08-22-2021, 02:09 PM
Pitching outside during extreme shifts is dumb

Unless the hitters are logically challenged!

Kc61
08-22-2021, 02:09 PM
The Reds are not going to eat Moose or Suarez' contract.

They certainly will try to find a way to move a large contract. Even if Suarez and Moose were playing ok, they are redundant, especially with guys like Barrero, India and Farmer available. I agree Reds won’t simply eat those contracts but they will be looking for creative deals.

Ironman92
08-22-2021, 02:09 PM
Great catch Jose….I’m impressed with his defense for sure. He showed two great things in 1 inning

OF get you ass in there smh

KeefeCato
08-22-2021, 02:10 PM
This is the one game in the series that the pitching matchup tilted towards the Marlins. Got to find a way to run up Alcantara's pitch count.

Tadasimha
08-22-2021, 02:10 PM
Time to get that one back and a few more!

adkindo
08-22-2021, 02:10 PM
The Reds are not going to eat Moose or Suarez' contract.

they should at least eat some of Moose's contract to dump him if possible

Ironman92
08-22-2021, 02:10 PM
Yeah Vlad kinda brought that one on himself

He miss the target? I’ll admit I didn’t see where Stephenson was set up

podgejeff_
08-22-2021, 02:11 PM
They certainly will try to find a way to move a large contract. Even if those two are playing ok, they are redundant, especially with guys like Barrero, India and Farmer available. I agree Reds won’t simply eat those contracts but they will be looking for creative deals.

I have faith in Moose returning to form. He's not the guy we're seeing right now.

Geno? I think Bob would probably stop any talk of trading him for multiple reasons. Someone needs to take him to the Joey Votto school of hitting adjustments.

Honestly, can we just make Votto a player-manager hitting coach?

Bruce Berenyi
08-22-2021, 02:11 PM
moose = dead weight

KeefeCato
08-22-2021, 02:12 PM
Great catch Jose….I’m impressed with his defense for sure. He showed two great things in 1 inning

OF get you ass in there smh

I see him as a typical young SS. He will make eye popping plays in a season. Make plays that no one else on the team could make. But will be among the league leaders in errors his first few seasons.

TheBigLebowski
08-22-2021, 02:13 PM
Nice hittin’ Nick

mhs95_06
08-22-2021, 02:13 PM
Nah. They'll keep them both.

Correct, and whether they do or not, they won't be able to afford getting another well paid outfielder if Castellanos leaves for more green pastures.

KeefeCato
08-22-2021, 02:14 PM
Correct, and whether they do or not, they won't be able to afford getting another well paid outfielder if Castellanos leaves for more green pastures.

May have to look at dealing Gray for OF help. A good OFer in his contract year.

Ky Fried Redleg
08-22-2021, 02:15 PM
Assuming Reds will try to rest both Givens and Lorenzen today. Certainly Givens.

If this games stays close it might be in the hands of secondary relievers. :eek:

Ironman92
08-22-2021, 02:16 PM
Nasty

podgejeff_
08-22-2021, 02:17 PM
Unlucky.

RedTeamGo!
08-22-2021, 02:17 PM
Farm Dawg smoked that ball, good play by Aguilar.

Tom Servo
08-22-2021, 02:18 PM
booooo

KeefeCato
08-22-2021, 02:18 PM
I would like to see Joey get a day off next Sunday in Miami. Last one for the stretch run.

Ironman92
08-22-2021, 02:18 PM
Farmer should be 2/2

Tadasimha
08-22-2021, 02:20 PM
Impale 'em uno-dos-tres, Vlad

RedTeamGo!
08-22-2021, 02:21 PM
I would like to see Joey get a day off next Sunday in Miami. Last one for the stretch run.

Yeah, that’s a good day for a day off. However, I just want to point out that pitch he struck out on was absolute filth. 90mph that broke right before got to the plate. Only way to hit that pitch is to close your eyes and guess correctly.

Ky Fried Redleg
08-22-2021, 02:24 PM
The Reds are not going to eat Moose or Suarez' contract.

If they don't eat Moose's contract, they need to make it a mandate that he stop eating "In and Out" cheeseburgers(according to Mike that's one of his favorite food pleasures and his favorite burger).


If the Reds' don't eat his contract, I'd love to see a healthy, fit, svelt-looking Moose in '22. For 64 M , he at least oes the club that much.

KeefeCato
08-22-2021, 02:26 PM
Anyone else watching on the APP? Does your picture go out at the end of each half inning today? I have to restart as soon as the 3rd out happens.

RedTeamGo!
08-22-2021, 02:27 PM
If they don't eat Moose's contract, they need to make it a mandate that he stop eating "In and Out" cheeseburgers(according to Mike that's one of his favorite food pleasures and his favorite burger).

I honestly don’t get the “omg he’s soooo fat” stuff. He looks exactly the same as he has the last few years. He’s got a big ass and legs, always has.

TheBigLebowski
08-22-2021, 02:28 PM
He lives

he lives

podgejeff_
08-22-2021, 02:28 PM
And just like that, Moose takes the lead. Like everyone expected here.

KeefeCato
08-22-2021, 02:28 PM
When Antone comes back who goes on IL? Don't think they are going to DFA Doolittle or Garrett. I will pick Garrett cause he hasn't pitched in a while.

Tom Servo
08-22-2021, 02:28 PM
Moose! :jump:

Tadasimha
08-22-2021, 02:29 PM
My Big Fat Greek Homerun!

podgejeff_
08-22-2021, 02:29 PM
https://media4.giphy.com/media/PjOHE76srQkzWbRN7Y/giphy-downsized-large.gif

GAC
08-22-2021, 02:29 PM
Moose! No doubter too

KeefeCato
08-22-2021, 02:29 PM
MOOSE SAYS STEP BACK ALL YOU NON BELIEVERS. I have not had enough at bats to get my swing back yet.

Ky Fried Redleg
08-22-2021, 02:29 PM
Who said that Moose as fat? He's no Mario Mendoza just yet!!!!

Ironman92
08-22-2021, 02:30 PM
I know the answer is “because it helps the chances of us winning this game” but I’m not sure if I like that Moose HR because it helps our chances of winning today or so some people on this thread will settle the f down.

SomeCallMeTim
08-22-2021, 02:30 PM
Or long national 3B nightmare is over…[emoji849][emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787]

https://media4.giphy.com/media/McmG2xY1ic369InI6M/giphy.gif

Ky Fried Redleg
08-22-2021, 02:30 PM
My Big Fat Greek Homerun!

LMAO

Kc61
08-22-2021, 02:30 PM
Good for Moose.

BTW did losing weight help Suarez’ hitting? Senzel’s hitting when he seemed to get thinner for CF?

Moose just needs reps, missed a lot of time.

RedTeamGo!
08-22-2021, 02:31 PM
Moose is an absolute unit

podgejeff_
08-22-2021, 02:31 PM
I know the answer is “because it helps the chances of us winning this game” but I’m not sure if I like that Moose HR because it helps our chances of winning today or so some people on this thread will settle the f down.

Will never happen.

The Reds are 11 games above 500 and on track for possibly the playoffs. And you've got people still criticizing every level of this organization like we're the Pirates.

RedTeamGo!
08-22-2021, 02:31 PM
People are acting like Moose is late career John Kruk. Guarantee Moose can squat like a billion lbs and bench 350.

Big Klu
08-22-2021, 02:32 PM
Who said that Moose as fat? He's no Mario Mendoza just yet!!!!

.208 now.

KeefeCato
08-22-2021, 02:33 PM
Good for Moose.

BTW did losing weight help Suarez’ hitting? Senzel’s hitting when he seemed to got thinner for CF?

Moose just needs reps, missed a lot of time.

Yeah being heavy sure didn't hurt Da Meat hook from hitting. Fielder , Panda among others. If you can hit you can hit. Your weight has nothing to do with your hitting.

mhs95_06
08-22-2021, 02:33 PM
Vlad with much bunting improvement since his first game!

Ironman92
08-22-2021, 02:34 PM
Good bunt by Gutierrez

Tom Servo
08-22-2021, 02:34 PM
I honestly don’t get the “omg he’s soooo fat” stuff. He looks exactly the same as he has the last few years. He’s got a big ass and legs, always has.
When you slump it’s because you’re a fat lazy overpaid piece of crap, obviously. Redszone the premier place for Reds discussion!

KeefeCato
08-22-2021, 02:36 PM
When you slump it’s because you’re a fat lazy overpaid piece of crap, obviously. Redszone the premier place for Reds discussion!

And on Tues there will be at least 5 posts complaining about Barrero being back on the bench. Today it was Votto's lineup protection.

Ironman92
08-22-2021, 02:37 PM
When you slump it’s because you’re a fat lazy overpaid piece of crap, obviously. Redszone the premier place for Reds discussion!

Moose uses Naquin’s arm for a bat

mhs95_06
08-22-2021, 02:41 PM
When you slump it’s because you’re a fat lazy overpaid piece of crap, obviously. Redszone the premier place for Reds discussion!

Yeah, just ask Alejo Lopez who had a 4/5, then slumped to 1/10 and thats the last he saw a MLB field.

Monster Man
08-22-2021, 02:41 PM
When you slump it’s because you’re a fat lazy overpaid piece of crap, obviously. Redszone the premier place for Reds discussion!

He’s been in a slump since he became a Cincinnati Red. I can only wish that I’ll be an enlightened Reds fan like you someday.

Kc61
08-22-2021, 02:41 PM
Thank you, Marlins.

Big Klu
08-22-2021, 02:41 PM
1-yessiree-3!

podgejeff_
08-22-2021, 02:41 PM
Great, great defense by Vlad there.

He's just staying so efficient.

Ky Fried Redleg
08-22-2021, 02:41 PM
Will never happen.

The Reds are 11 games above 500 and on track for possibly the playoffs. And you've got people still criticizing every level of this organization like we're the Pirates.

I love being 11 over, but 11 over or 30 over, some criticisms are still valid. Like the criticism concerning our anemic production from the 3b position.

Ironman92
08-22-2021, 02:42 PM
Wow…Gutierrez playing an all-around game

podgejeff_
08-22-2021, 02:42 PM
He’s been in a slump since he became a Cincinnati Red. I can only wish that I’ll be an enlightened Reds fan like you someday.

Moose OPS'd .799 last year.

Tom Servo
08-22-2021, 02:43 PM
He’s been in a slump since he became a Cincinnati Red. I can only wish that I’ll be an enlightened Reds fan like you someday.
Keep trying kid maybe you’ll get there someday

mhs95_06
08-22-2021, 02:44 PM
Vlad with a Leake like, gold glove worthy, cat like move to get to that bunt in the air for the DP!

Kc61
08-22-2021, 02:44 PM
Lodolo - one inning, three Ks today.

Hmmm.

Wonder if Reds are thinking of adding a lefty reliever from AAA.

Ironman92
08-22-2021, 02:45 PM
This ump hates Stephenson

SomeCallMeTim
08-22-2021, 02:45 PM
Ho hum.

ANOTHER quality start by Vlad.

I don’t need advanced stats to see a gamer. Love what he has brought to this team!

SomeCallMeTim
08-22-2021, 02:45 PM
Lodolo - one inning, three Ks today.

Hmmm.

Wonder if Reds are thinking of adding a lefty reliever from AAA.

https://media4.giphy.com/media/3o7TKTDn976rzVgky4/giphy.gif

GAC
08-22-2021, 02:45 PM
Moose OPS'd .799 last year.

Yeah. Last year, which was an abbreviated year to begin with, was his first season with the Reds. LOL

Ironman92
08-22-2021, 02:47 PM
This guy is filthy this inning

mhs95_06
08-22-2021, 02:48 PM
This ump hates Stephenson

That 2nd K was on a perfect pitch, taking advantage of knowing Tyler likes to often take pitches oppo.

Ironman92
08-22-2021, 02:49 PM
Why do I think a vision test between Votto and Juan Soto would be Interesting?

KeefeCato
08-22-2021, 02:49 PM
Lodolo - one inning, three Ks today.

Hmmm.

Wonder if Reds are thinking of adding a lefty reliever from AAA.

That would be a good move. They badly need a LH reliever.

Ironman92
08-22-2021, 02:50 PM
Was that a 94 mph splitter? Holy crap

mhs95_06
08-22-2021, 02:51 PM
I cannot believe these Marlins are playing 3 infielders on the left side on Farmer!

RedTeamGo!
08-22-2021, 02:51 PM
Miguel Cabrera - HR (500)

Ironman92
08-22-2021, 02:51 PM
Several nasty pitches that inning

podgejeff_
08-22-2021, 02:52 PM
Sandy Alcantara is going to be a great pitcher for the Yankees next year.

KeefeCato
08-22-2021, 02:52 PM
Wonder if the Reds could try sending the Marlins Jeff Hoffman for Alcantara? I mean it is worth a shot. It worked once getting Castillo.

TheBigLebowski
08-22-2021, 02:52 PM
Maybe Alcantara is done now

RedTeamGo!
08-22-2021, 02:54 PM
Wonder if the Reds could try sending the Marlins Jeff Hoffman for Alcantara? I mean it is worth a shot. It worked once getting Castillo.

Simon actually had MLB success. It would be more like trading Gray for Alcantara.

Ky Fried Redleg
08-22-2021, 02:55 PM
Moose OPS'd .799 last year.


To be fair, though, that is before his BMI hit 32.8 .

podgejeff_
08-22-2021, 02:55 PM
Simon actually had MLB success. It would be more like trading Gray for Alcantara.

You mean Straily.

Ironman92
08-22-2021, 02:55 PM
Cabrera hit #500

podgejeff_
08-22-2021, 02:55 PM
To be fair, though, that is before his BMI hit 32.8 .

It's almost like he's been injured.

KeefeCato
08-22-2021, 02:55 PM
Simon actually had MLB success. It would be more like trading Gray for Alcantara.

Straily for Castillo.

RedTeamGo!
08-22-2021, 02:56 PM
You mean Straily.

Haha you’re right, got my fleeces mixed up. My comp basically remains, though. Straily had quite a bit of success that season before he was traded to the Marlins.

Still can’t believe they got Castillo for Dan Straily, lol.

podgejeff_
08-22-2021, 02:58 PM
Haha you’re right, got my fleeces mixed up. My comp basically remains, though. Straily had quite a bit of success that season before he was traded to the Marlins.

Still can’t believe they got Castillo for Dan Straily, lol.

Neither can all 12 of the Marlins fans.

I should probably calm down before I get called out for disrespecting Florida baseball.

mhs95_06
08-22-2021, 03:02 PM
Ouch! Needed to get Vlad thru the 8th with one run!

Tom Servo
08-22-2021, 03:02 PM
damn…gotta field that Jose

TheBigLebowski
08-22-2021, 03:03 PM
Great 1-1 pitch

Wonderful Monds
08-22-2021, 03:04 PM
Gaining weight and looking out of shape doesn’t help either. Stuck with his big contract for two more years.


Okay what? You’re happy with an injury-prone out of shape player with a 64 million dollar contact?


You will get flak for that but, you're right, it doesn't help. He's going to the dish not expecting success. You can see it in his demeanor and his swing.


moose = dead weight

lmao

TheBigLebowski
08-22-2021, 03:04 PM
Superb, Vladdy Daddy

GAC
08-22-2021, 03:04 PM
Solid 7 innings young man

podgejeff_
08-22-2021, 03:04 PM
Take a bow Gutierrez.

BluegrassRedleg
08-22-2021, 03:04 PM
Well done, young Gutierrez. [emoji482]


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Tom Servo
08-22-2021, 03:05 PM
Vlad :clap:

Tadasimha
08-22-2021, 03:05 PM
Vlad The Impaler finishes strong!

redsfan9988
08-22-2021, 03:05 PM
What a job by Guttius Maximus. At what point does he enter the ROY conversation?

KeefeCato
08-22-2021, 03:05 PM
Vlad The Impaler finishes strong!

They may run him back out to at least start the 8th.

Wonderful Monds
08-22-2021, 03:05 PM
To be fair, though, that is before his BMI hit 32.8 .

The Moose weight thing is really one of the dumbest dead horses that’s been beaten here in a long time, you might have to go back to BadFundamentals inventing stats to whine about Adam Dunn not hitting sac flies to find the next dumbest one.

Kc61
08-22-2021, 03:06 PM
Very good outing for Vlad, I assume that’s it for him.

Bullpen has to come through.

Go to a different look, throw some pitches by these guys to get a win.

Big Klu
08-22-2021, 03:06 PM
Vladimir Gutierrez is a nice pitcher to have in the #5 slot in the rotation.

SomeCallMeTim
08-22-2021, 03:08 PM
Vlad, the innings Impaler!

https://media2.giphy.com/media/xTiTnk7cRvop40CYLu/giphy.gif

Mitri
08-22-2021, 03:08 PM
Vlad. Stepping up big all season. Incredible.

podgejeff_
08-22-2021, 03:08 PM
The Moose weight thing is really one of the dumbest dead horses that’s been beaten here in a long time, you might have to go back to BadFundamentals inventing stats to whine about Adam Dunn not hitting sac flies to find the next dumbest one.

The way many on this board thought of Adam Dunn continues to be my reference point of when to walk away from so many baseball-related arguments.

VR
08-22-2021, 03:09 PM
He'd have to put another coupla starts like this together (for ROY).....but man, what a very pleasant surprise for the rotation this year, and moving forward. Ranking in the top 10 in the majors in p/ip is very exciting to me. Gives the manager such flexibility to manage the game and pen when your starter can go 7 or 8 or more if needed.

mhs95_06
08-22-2021, 03:10 PM
They may run him back out to at least start the 8th.

Bell needs to go unconventional again in the interest of the bullpen and not hit for Vlad and send him back out there.

Tom Servo
08-22-2021, 03:11 PM
Santillan should be available after just 5 pitches yesterday, I trust him at least

VR
08-22-2021, 03:12 PM
Terrible strike 3 call.

SomeCallMeTim
08-22-2021, 03:12 PM
101? So fast the Ump didn’t see it

Larkin Fan
08-22-2021, 03:12 PM
Santillan should be available after just 5 pitches yesterday, I trust him at least

In Santillan we trust.

Kc61
08-22-2021, 03:12 PM
Santillan should be available after just 5 pitches yesterday, I trust him at least

Maybe Sims and Santillan.

Larkin Fan
08-22-2021, 03:13 PM
Terrible strike 3 call.

I honestly don't think the ump could see it based on how fast it was.

podgejeff_
08-22-2021, 03:13 PM
I honestly don't think the ump could see it based on how fast it was.

It's like they invent new reasons to be replaced by robots.

Roy Tucker
08-22-2021, 03:15 PM
Alcantra doesn’t need any extra help.

GAC
08-22-2021, 03:15 PM
It's like they invent new reasons to be replaced by robots.

Robot wouldn't have seen it either. lol

Larkin Fan
08-22-2021, 03:15 PM
Robot wouldn't have seen it either. lol

"Cannot compute. Cannot compute."

GAC
08-22-2021, 03:16 PM
Jim Day - Akiyama still looking for that first HR. Lmao

VR
08-22-2021, 03:17 PM
At least Moose and Shogo ensured Alcantara is done for the day with extended ab's. (I would assume)

Larkin Fan
08-22-2021, 03:18 PM
Alcantara is pretty good. Wonder if we can convince the Marlins to deal him to us for a Straily type, a la Castillo?

Tadasimha
08-22-2021, 03:19 PM
Shogo battling, still think more regular playing time helps his bat. Good teammate seems like, in the game and cheering when not playing.

Tom Servo
08-22-2021, 03:20 PM
Uh oh, Sims in

Tadasimha
08-22-2021, 03:20 PM
Alcantara is pretty good. Wonder if we can convince the Marlins to deal him to us for a Straily type, a la Castillo?

Gosh, this conversation seems familiar

Larkin Fan
08-22-2021, 03:20 PM
Gosh, this conversation seems familiar

Did I miss an earlier convo? Just got home from work and hadn't read the whole thread.

mhs95_06
08-22-2021, 03:20 PM
Shogo never caught up with the fastball, or any other pitch, but in 3 plate appearances saw 19 pitches and drew a walk!

SomeCallMeTim
08-22-2021, 03:21 PM
Uh oh, Sims in

https://media1.giphy.com/media/uq6ILNBI6g3As/giphy.gif

KeefeCato
08-22-2021, 03:21 PM
Did I miss an earlier convo?

I said the Reds should offer up Jeff Hoffman.

Tadasimha
08-22-2021, 03:21 PM
Did I miss an earlier convo?conversation? Just got home from work and hadn't read the whole thread.

Yep. Back up a page or two

Tom Servo
08-22-2021, 03:21 PM
please do not walk the leadoff man Sims

thank you

Roy Tucker
08-22-2021, 03:21 PM
I remember Gary Nolan.

Big Klu
08-22-2021, 03:22 PM
Uh oh, Sims in

Hold on to your butts.

https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/51b3dc8ee4b051b96ceb10de/1592327186675-EZD6DHONWNXQ2TV7915A/the-fun-story-behind-samuel-l-jacksons-classic-jurassic-park-line-hold-on-to-you-butts-social.jpg?format=1500w&content-type=image%2Fjpeg

Larkin Fan
08-22-2021, 03:22 PM
I said the Reds should offer up Jeff Hoffman.

I like your thinking.

Big Klu
08-22-2021, 03:23 PM
Jim Day - Akiyama still looking for that first HR. Lmao

Fearless prediction:

Shogo Akiyama's first major-league home run will be of the inside-the-park variety.

Tom Servo
08-22-2021, 03:23 PM
please do not walk the second man up Sims

thank you

Bruce Berenyi
08-22-2021, 03:24 PM
gary nolan number 38 was my favorite

Big Klu
08-22-2021, 03:25 PM
gary nolan number 38 was my favorite

See, #38 works for him.

It doesn't work for a talented middle infielder.

KeefeCato
08-22-2021, 03:25 PM
gary nolan number 38 was my favorite

Just wish Nolan and Gullett would have stayed healthy.