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Ron Madden
09-04-2021, 02:47 PM
Reds
1. Jonathan India (R) 2B
2. Tyler Stephenson (R) C
3. Nick Castellanos (R) RF
4. Joey Votto (L) 1B
5. Eugenio Suarez (R) 3B
6. Kyle Farmer (R) SS
7. Aristides Aquino (R) LF
8. Delino DeShields (R) CF
9. Tyler Mahle (R) P

Tigers
1. Robbie Grossman (S) RF
2. Jonathan Schoop (R) 2B
3. Miguel Cabrera (R) 1B
4. Jeimer Candelario (S) 3B
5. Eric Haase (R) LF
6. Harold Castro (L) SS
7. Dustin Garneau (R) C
8. Derek Hill (R) CF
9. Matthew Boyd (L) P

KeefeCato
09-04-2021, 02:49 PM
Mahle needs a good home start.

Powel Crosley
09-04-2021, 03:16 PM
We going to get this one in tonight?

klw
09-04-2021, 03:27 PM
I haven't been following too closely this week. Is Cabrera hurt? He didn't even get in last night's blowout.

TheBigLebowski
09-04-2021, 03:33 PM
We going to get this one in tonight?

Bad weather expected?

TheBigLebowski
09-04-2021, 03:40 PM
I want to make it clear I do not care for this lineup.

1. It contains Aquino.
2. DeShields starting and hitting 8th.
3. Lefty/Lefty for Votto at cleanup and Suarez at .175 “protecting” him.
4. 7/8/9 is a freaking black hole.


Boyd’s a lefty who misses a lot of bats. Mahle has been excessively flammable at home.

Regardless of the lineup, this team as a whole is not hitting.

Baseball often makes no sense, so the Reds will win by 18 tonight.

NebraskaRed
09-04-2021, 03:49 PM
I'm going to go out on a limb and predict that the Tigers will not score 15 (or more) runs this game.

Powel Crosley
09-04-2021, 03:58 PM
Bad weather expected?

The game may or may not start on time, but it's definitely going to rain later. If it doesn't start on time, I'd guess postponed.

Flyer Guy
09-04-2021, 03:58 PM
Reds facing another lefty tonight. Can the Reds score runs?

Ky Fried Redleg
09-04-2021, 04:27 PM
More Cowbell( I mean Cabrera) ...less Aquino.

WrongVerb
09-04-2021, 04:36 PM
Wife and I taking in the game tonight. Section 416.

KeefeCato
09-04-2021, 05:06 PM
Wife and I taking in the game tonight. Section 416.

Hopefully the rain stays away till after the game.

Ironman92
09-04-2021, 06:15 PM
I had no idea it was going to rain….it’s been perfect here all day with no humidity

WrongVerb
09-04-2021, 06:45 PM
Hopefully the rain stays away till after the game.

Looks like it's going to move through and then they can get the game in.

NatiRedGals
09-04-2021, 06:48 PM
Lol again

Kc61
09-04-2021, 07:10 PM
Time to get back on track.

These are home games, need to win the game and the series.

JFLegal
09-04-2021, 07:11 PM
Time to get back on track.

These are home games, need to win the game and the series.

mahle is bad at home. reds can't hit lefties.

so, let's do the opposite and win this one.

JFLegal
09-04-2021, 07:12 PM
that first pitch was a strike. because of that awful call, mahle is forced to groove one on the next pitch and gives up a ground rule double.

Red Raindog
09-04-2021, 07:13 PM
Horrible path by Nick it looked like to me


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Ironman92
09-04-2021, 07:13 PM
Took a perfect angle to get it and Castellanos a little off

mhs95_06
09-04-2021, 07:14 PM
Bad sign, ump calls a ball on one in Mahle's critical up and in zone, then next pitch he gets more of the plate and line drive ground rule double!

mhs95_06
09-04-2021, 07:16 PM
Runner holds 2nd on a grounder to the right side of 2nd. Guess he thought India may get to it in the air.

Larkin Fan
09-04-2021, 07:20 PM
India is channeling his inner Brandon Phillips.

Ironman92
09-04-2021, 07:20 PM
Wonder if he’s safe with a foot longer stretch?

mhs95_06
09-04-2021, 07:21 PM
There is the disadvantage for the Tigers, not getting the run when the Reds missed the DP.

JFLegal
09-04-2021, 07:25 PM
mahle leads MLB "by a wide margin" (per sadak) in 3-2 counts.

the great nibbler.

JFLegal
09-04-2021, 07:27 PM
24-pitch inning ... but mahle gets a huge K with the bases loaded to end the frame

Ironman92
09-04-2021, 07:27 PM
That was the longest 1/2 inning ever early in a game to be scoreless

Red Raindog
09-04-2021, 07:28 PM
That was painful to watch Mahle labor through the inning but thankfully he got out of it


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mhs95_06
09-04-2021, 07:30 PM
Ump wronged the Tiger pitcher on the first pitch just like Mahle!

Ironman92
09-04-2021, 07:31 PM
Over/under this game ending 11:19:24

mhs95_06
09-04-2021, 07:36 PM
Great last pitch to Castellanos.

Ironman92
09-04-2021, 07:36 PM
Tip your cap to that pitch to get Nick

Ironman92
09-04-2021, 07:36 PM
Good swing by Joe

mhs95_06
09-04-2021, 07:37 PM
Productive out by Votto.

dakota42
09-04-2021, 07:40 PM
So many wasted chances lately.

Ironman92
09-04-2021, 07:40 PM
Give an F to the middle of the lineup there

NebraskaRed
09-04-2021, 07:40 PM
40-something pitches total in that inning and nobody scored.

mhs95_06
09-04-2021, 07:40 PM
Geno couldn't survive being robbed of a ball call on the first pitch! another great pitch on the 3-2 count.

Mitri
09-04-2021, 07:43 PM
Bruce Berenyi popping up in the tv feed.

NebraskaRed
09-04-2021, 07:44 PM
Sadak was convinced that was a home run.

mhs95_06
09-04-2021, 07:44 PM
Mahle gets the first batter in spite of losing the strike he threw on the 3rd pitch to the umpire!

NatiRedGals
09-04-2021, 07:46 PM
I know I say lol past two days but you can't take team in a post season race to put geno farmer AA and a Deshields who wasn't playing baseball a week ago and expect to win. I know winker is hurt but there's rookies I'd rather live and die by then these guys who proven there not good other then farmer who's been decent enough I guess but sure would love to see lopez and Jose in the lineup

Ironman92
09-04-2021, 07:46 PM
Sadak was convinced that was a home run.

His instincts remind me of a young Andruw Jones……like age 4

NatiRedGals
09-04-2021, 07:47 PM
Sadak was convinced that was a home run.

I can't watch TV broadcasts because he talks to loud and to much and can't judge a ball the mlbtv with radio broadcast is a godsend

NebraskaRed
09-04-2021, 07:47 PM
Good inning by Mahle.

Ky Fried Redleg
09-04-2021, 07:50 PM
Reds are just not fundamentally sound. How many times to we see a first and second , no out and they don't move the runner over to third with less than two out ? Too often it takes a two out hit to get a runner home. Too many uppercut swings looking to pull a big blast instead of going with the pitch and serving to the opposite field. The approach has not been good for a long time.

gagliano
09-04-2021, 07:51 PM
Reds are just not fundamentally sound. How many times to we see a first and second , no out and they don't move the runner over to third with less than two out ? Too often it takes a two out hit to get a runner home. Too many uppercut swings looking to pull a big blast instead of going with the pitch and serving to the opposite field. The approach has not been good for a long time.

The softball swing is here to say. Ugh.

NebraskaRed
09-04-2021, 07:52 PM
Brewers already 4-0 over Cards in the 2nd.

Stray
09-04-2021, 07:52 PM
Was that strike 3 call on Farmer as bad as it looks on gameday?

NebraskaRed
09-04-2021, 07:52 PM
Was that strike 3 call on Farmer as bad as it looks on gameday?

Yes

mhs95_06
09-04-2021, 07:53 PM
Ump strikes again as Farmer called out on a pitch that was more than a full ball's width away from the zone.

Red Raindog
09-04-2021, 07:53 PM
Was that strike 3 call on Farmer as bad as it looks on gameday?

Maybe worse


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Ironman92
09-04-2021, 07:53 PM
Effing terrible….

Bell’s heart rate up to 53 I imagine

Ironman92
09-04-2021, 07:53 PM
Was that strike 3 call on Farmer as bad as it looks on gameday?

3 inches off plate

NebraskaRed
09-04-2021, 07:54 PM
Good AB by Aquino

mhs95_06
09-04-2021, 07:54 PM
Reds are just not fundamentally sound. How many times to we see a first and second , no out and they don't move the runner over to third with less than two out ? Too often it takes a two out hit to get a runner home. Too many uppercut swings looking to pull a big blast instead of going with the pitch and serving to the opposite field. The approach has not been good for a long time.

Only when the ball accidentally hits the bat do we get the runners advanced so far tonight.

Ironman92
09-04-2021, 07:56 PM
Deshields looks like Phillip Ervin up there

kaldaniels
09-04-2021, 07:57 PM
From tee-ball to MLB I’m never a fan of the coach’s son.

Ky Fried Redleg
09-04-2021, 07:58 PM
Did they say an Amir Garrett signed jersey??? Wow, that'll be mighty valuable when Amir reaches Cooperstown oneday. :rolleyes:

kaldaniels
09-04-2021, 07:59 PM
Did they say an Amir Garrett signed jersey??? Wow, that'll be mighty valuable when Amir reaches Cooperstown oneday. :rolleyes:

I’ll take “Things the PR department would like to take back” for $500, Alex.

NebraskaRed
09-04-2021, 07:59 PM
Boyd up to 45 pitches already

Ky Fried Redleg
09-04-2021, 08:00 PM
One of these days Mahle is gonna hit the ball out of the ballpark. I'd bet on it.

NebraskaRed
09-04-2021, 08:03 PM
One of these days Mahle is gonna hit the ball out of the ballpark. I'd bet on it.

He just might. His was one of the best ABs so far today.

Ky Fried Redleg
09-04-2021, 08:05 PM
I’ll take “Things the PR department would like to take back” for $500, Alex.

:laugh:

Ky Fried Redleg
09-04-2021, 08:07 PM
He just might. His was one of the best ABs so far today.

He actually puts a good swing on the ball and has some pop in his bat. He's gonna barrel one up fair one of these days. May not be this year but I bet he homers next season.

Ironman92
09-04-2021, 08:09 PM
There’s your respect Miggy [emoji2359]

NebraskaRed
09-04-2021, 08:12 PM
I know that having a reliever pitch the first inning is something that nobody really does now, but it really couldn't hurt with Mahle. Especially at home.

Larry Schuler
09-04-2021, 08:16 PM
Reds leading the second wild card and not letting go of it. Playoff fireworks coming to the “Neopolitan City” aka Cincy aka Sincinnati aka Cincinnati, Ohio. Just keep doing what you’re doing, WC, and you got this.

gagliano
09-04-2021, 08:17 PM
Reds leading the second wild card and not letting go of it. Playoff fireworks coming to the “Neopolitan City” aka Cincy aka Sincinnati aka Cincinnati, Ohio. Just keep doing what you’re doing, WC, and you got this.

Next time try breaking the prozacs in half

NebraskaRed
09-04-2021, 08:17 PM
At least the Reds waited until the third inning to fall behind.

Billy_Bearcat
09-04-2021, 08:18 PM
At least the Reds waited until the third inning to fall behind.

Is this like 6 games in a row they start from behind?

Kc61
09-04-2021, 08:19 PM
They should plot out the rest of the season avoiding Mahle at GABP.

KeefeCato
09-04-2021, 08:19 PM
Team is a hot mess right now. Deal Mahle in the offseason, Win for him and the Reds. He can't pitch in GABP. He may win a Cy Young pitching for another team.

JP321
09-04-2021, 08:19 PM
The Reds seem cooked.. they aren't doing anything well

Ironman92
09-04-2021, 08:20 PM
Consistently sucking on a ball 3 inches outside doesn’t mean you don’t suck

Righties will have to hack at that if they get to two strikes…..but not before unless they are really leaning oppo

Maldez
09-04-2021, 08:20 PM
Slip slidin' away....

Ironman92
09-04-2021, 08:20 PM
Exactly the pitch….EXACTLY

REDREAD
09-04-2021, 08:21 PM
I know I say lol past two days but you can't take team in a post season race to put geno farmer AA and a Deshields who wasn't playing baseball a week ago and expect to win. I know winker is hurt but there's rookies I'd rather live and die by then these guys who proven there not good other then farmer who's been decent enough I guess but sure would love to see lopez and Jose in the lineup

As far as Deshields goes.. he's a 667 career OPS, which is not great, but he's a lot better than Shogo. It's an upgrade.
So then the question becomes Naquin or Aquino? I'd probably go with Naquin, even though it's Left on left, just because he's an overall better player.. But kind of hard to fault Bell for trying to put as many righties as he can in the lineup.. nothing has really worked vs LH pitching for the Reds this year.. I'm not that enamored with Lopez enough to play him in LF. Now if you meant to rip Krall for assembling this roster, you have a great point. Or if you want to criticize the Reds for not teaching Ty Stevenson LF a lot earlier.. that's a point as well (I have not heard if they are continuing with that plan or not, does anyone know?)

Ironman92
09-04-2021, 08:22 PM
He was going to make it but shouldn’t matter


Hey guise….oppo works

Ky Fried Redleg
09-04-2021, 08:23 PM
Did he actually serve that up with a two strike count? Good gracious, is our water seeking its true level?


Second and third, less than two out. Let's try this AGAIN. Get AT LEAST one of these in.

mhs95_06
09-04-2021, 08:23 PM
Will they take the lefty out after Joey's 2nd AB tonight?

TheBigLebowski
09-04-2021, 08:24 PM
This is depressing

REDREAD
09-04-2021, 08:24 PM
Team is a hot mess right now. Deal Mahle in the offseason, Win for him and the Reds. He can't pitch in GABP. He may win a Cy Young pitching for another team.

Plus the Reds would get to hit against Mahle when his new team visits the Reds.. :)

REDREAD
09-04-2021, 08:25 PM
Votto comes through.. Reds score with a guy on 3rd and 1 out :)

NebraskaRed
09-04-2021, 08:26 PM
Votto is Mr. Talkative after that hit

Kc61
09-04-2021, 08:26 PM
Reds have become totally station to station. They can’t run, they hold the runner at third constantly.

And now, Suarez.

REDREAD
09-04-2021, 08:27 PM
Hopefully Geno can get the SF.

- - - Updated - - -


Hopefully Geno can get the SF.

And he does! :)

Ironman92
09-04-2021, 08:28 PM
Lol at Miggy

Ky Fried Redleg
09-04-2021, 08:29 PM
Reds have become totally station to station. They can’t run, they hold the runner at third constantly.

And now, Suarez.

Yeah, station to station ball makes a guy like me who grew up watching 70's Reds very sad.

REDREAD
09-04-2021, 08:29 PM
Is it just me, or does it sound like there's more Tiger fans at the GAB than Reds fans?

NebraskaRed
09-04-2021, 08:30 PM
That was almost a miraculous throw to first, but not quite.

REDREAD
09-04-2021, 08:30 PM
ok, Bell is a genius for starting Aquino :lol:

Ironman92
09-04-2021, 08:30 PM
[emoji95] [emoji95][emoji95][emoji95]

NebraskaRed
09-04-2021, 08:30 PM
Hell yes

TheBigLebowski
09-04-2021, 08:31 PM
Like I’ve always said - Aquino is a great player

Ky Fried Redleg
09-04-2021, 08:31 PM
I'll be doggone ; he finally ran into one !!!!

JFLegal
09-04-2021, 08:31 PM
that was good. liked that a lot.

NebraskaRed
09-04-2021, 08:32 PM
Not to be debbie downer, but we got at least 2 more innings of Mahle to get through. Hopefully he can avoid more home runs.

mhs95_06
09-04-2021, 08:32 PM
Will they take the lefty out after Joey's 2nd AB tonight?

Should have continued with last night's strategy! Maybe they didn't do it because it was only the 3rd inning tonight.

Kc61
09-04-2021, 08:32 PM
Bell needs to manage to hold this lead. Not saying Mahle comes out, but no more Miley pitching to Goldschmidt situations here.

BluegrassRedleg
09-04-2021, 08:33 PM
It's alive!!!

Ky Fried Redleg
09-04-2021, 08:33 PM
delete

Big Klu
09-04-2021, 08:34 PM
Aquino has tied César Cedeño for 12th place among players of Hispanic heritage on the Reds all-time home run list.


1. Tony Pérez [🇨🇺] - 287
2. Eugenio Suárez [🇻🇪] - 183
3. Dave Concepción [🇻🇪] - 101
4. Leo Cárdenas [🇨🇺] - 72
5. Edwin Encarnación [🇩🇴] - 71
6. Wily Mo Peña [🇩🇴] - 54
7. César Gerónimo [🇩🇴] - 44
8. Felipe López [🇵🇷] - 41
9. Nick Castellanos [🇺🇸/🇨🇺] - 40
10. Bo Díaz [🇻🇪] - 39

11. Javier Valentín [🇵🇷] - 34
12. César Cedeño [🇩🇴] - 30
12. Aristides Aquino [🇩🇴] - 30
14. Mariano Duncan [🇩🇴] - 28
14. José Peraza [🇻🇪] - 28
16. José Guillén [🇩🇴] - 27
17. Juan Castro [🇲🇽] - 25
18. Ramón Hernández [🇻🇪] - 24
19. Eduardo Pérez [🇺🇸/🇵🇷] - 23
20. Yasiel Puig [🇨🇺] - 22

21. Alex Ochoa [🇺🇸/🇨🇺] - 20
22. Luis Quiñones [🇵🇷] - 19
22. Benito Santiago [🇵🇷] - 19
22. D'Angelo Jiménez [🇩🇴] - 19
22. Alex González [🇻🇪] - 19
26. Juan Encarnación [🇩🇴] - 16
27. Jerry Hairston, Jr. [🇺🇸/🇲🇽] - 14
28. Miguel Cairo [🇻🇪] - 13
29. Roberto Kelly [🇵🇦] - 12
29. Freddy Galvis [🇻🇪] - 12

31. José Iglesias [🇨🇺] - 11
32. Rubén Rivera [🇵🇦] - 10
33. Tony Fernández [🇩🇴] - 8
34. Jacob Cruz [🇺🇸/🇲🇽] - 7
35. Carmelo Martínez [🇵🇷] - 6
35. Bronson Arroyo [🇺🇸/🇨🇺] - 6
35. Kristopher Negrón [🇺🇸/🇵🇷] - 6

38. Dolf Luque [🇨🇺] - 5
38. Héctor Cruz [🇵🇷] - 5
38. Rubén Mateo [🇩🇴] - 5
38. Édgar Rentería [🇨🇴] - 5
38. Juan Francisco [🇩🇴] - 5
38. Yonder Alonso [🇨🇺] - 5
38. Brayan Peña [🇨🇺] - 5
38. Iván DeJesús, Jr. [🇵🇷] - 5
38. Dilson Herrera [🇨🇴] - 5

47. Juan Samuel [🇩🇴] - 4
47. Adam Rosales [🇺🇸/🇲🇽] - 4
47. Orlando Cabrera [🇨🇴] - 4
47. Ramón Cabrera [🇻🇪] - 4
51. Rafael Almeida [🇨🇺] - 3
51. Tony González [🇨🇺] - 3
51. Dave Martinez [🇺🇸/🇵🇷] - 3
51. Roberto Petagine [🇻🇪] - 3
51. Jolbert Cabrera [🇨🇴] - 3

56. Elio Chacón [🇻🇪] - 2
56. Chico Ruiz [🇨🇺] - 2
56. Pat Corrales [🇺🇸/🇲🇽] - 2
56. Julián Javier [🇩🇴] - 2
56. Alex Treviño [🇲🇽] - 2
56. José Rijo [🇩🇴] - 2
56. Rubén Sierra [🇵🇷] - 2
56. Melvin Nieves [🇵🇷] - 2
56. Guillermo García [🇩🇴] - 2
56. Ray Olmedo [🇻🇪] - 2
56. Dioner Navarro [🇻🇪] - 2
56. Ramón Santiago [🇩🇴] - 2
56. Alex Blandino [🇺🇸/🇳🇮] - 2

69. Armando Marsans [🇨🇺] - 1
69. Manuel Cueto [🇨🇺] - 1
69. Arturo DeFreites [🇩🇴] - 1
69. Sam Mejías [🇩🇴] - 1
69. Rafael Landestoy [🇩🇴] - 1
69. Mario Soto [🇩🇴] - 1
69. Leo García [🇩🇴] - 1
69. Freddie Benavides [🇺🇸/🇲🇽] - 1
69. Wilton Guerrero [🇩🇴] - 1
69. Jorge Cantú [🇺🇸/🇲🇽] - 1
69. Willy Taveras [🇩🇴] - 1
69. Chris Dominguez [🇺🇸/🇨🇺] - 1
69. Arismendy Alcántara [🇩🇴] - 1
69. Tony Cruz [🇺🇸/🇨🇺] - 1
69. Gabriel Guerrero [🇩🇴] - 1

Kc61
09-04-2021, 08:34 PM
Brewers up 4 on Cards so this one becomes even more important. Want to pick up another game over Cardinals.

Larry Schuler
09-04-2021, 08:38 PM
Next time try breaking the prozacs in half

Did you doubt this team for a second?

Ky Fried Redleg
09-04-2021, 08:38 PM
Bell needs to manage to hold this lead. Not saying Mahle comes out, but no more Miley pitching to Goldschmidt situations here.

That was an abomination. One of the worst decisions of the season.

Ironman92
09-04-2021, 08:39 PM
Wow….great cutoff

Lost some air on it lol

Kc61
09-04-2021, 08:39 PM
Not sure why Mahle threw a meatball to the pitcher with two strikes there.

Just throw him breaking pitches.

Baserunner with two outs. Strikes out Grossman, ok ends inning.

GullyFoyle
09-04-2021, 08:42 PM
Mahle looked like he just gave up a homer when Boyd got that hit … wasn’t happy at all.


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Ky Fried Redleg
09-04-2021, 08:45 PM
Off subject, but that Western & Southern commercial with Glen Campbell music... Gosh, Campbell was good. What a musician!

Kc61
09-04-2021, 08:49 PM
Mahle looked like he just gave up a homer when Boyd got that hit … wasn’t happy at all.


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He should have been unhappy. Boyd an AL pitcher seldom hits. Two strikes on him. Threw him a straight pitch in the zone.

GullyFoyle
09-04-2021, 08:49 PM
Cabrera playing with India’s hair [emoji23]

Kc61
09-04-2021, 08:50 PM
That was an abomination. One of the worst decisions of the season.

Still annoys me several days later, agree.

GullyFoyle
09-04-2021, 08:50 PM
He should have been unhappy. Boyd an AL pitcher seldom hits. Two strikes on him. Threw him a straight pitch in the zone.

That was my point … he knew he screwed up.

NebraskaRed
09-04-2021, 08:51 PM
"Might be close to the end of the road for Boyd"

I know what he meant, but the very somber tone to Sadak's voice sounded like he was announcing Boyd's impending death.

NebraskaRed
09-04-2021, 08:53 PM
Charlie Goldsmith
@CharlieG__

Today in RedZilla news: a few of the giveaway balls don’t make it over the net, and Miguel Cabrera helps collect them so they can get distributed to the fans.

Big Klu
09-04-2021, 08:56 PM
I would guess that Miguel Cabrera is probably pretty well-liked among opposing fans.

PuffyPig
09-04-2021, 08:59 PM
Bradley just gave up 3 runs, Phillies now trail 3-2.


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Kc61
09-04-2021, 08:59 PM
Gotta get someone throwing. Mahle third time through the order with two baserunners.

Sims is throwing, two outs.

Now bags loaded, I’d take Mahle out and go with Sims.

Bell sticks with Mahle. 0-2, now full count.

Red Raindog
09-04-2021, 09:06 PM
It appears to me Mahle can’t stop nibbling when he gets ahead of the count


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Coopdaddy67
09-04-2021, 09:07 PM
Brutal.

Red Raindog
09-04-2021, 09:07 PM
Please get him out


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NebraskaRed
09-04-2021, 09:08 PM
Of course.

Redsfan5
09-04-2021, 09:08 PM
Bell can’t figure it out


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Kc61
09-04-2021, 09:08 PM
Sims should be in this game. India bails Mahle out, though a one run game.

Coopdaddy67
09-04-2021, 09:09 PM
India!

Ironman92
09-04-2021, 09:09 PM
Screw you you jackwagon umpire

NebraskaRed
09-04-2021, 09:09 PM
Our boy ROY

JP321
09-04-2021, 09:10 PM
Pretty sure this ump has called that ball 4 to walk in a run a strike all night

BCubb2003
09-04-2021, 09:11 PM
India’s slide, spin and throw reminds me of Concepcion inventing the bounce throw to first.

NebraskaRed
09-04-2021, 09:14 PM
Padres down 2-0 vs. Astros
Phillies down 3-4 vs. Marlins
Cards down 4-0 vs. Brewers

This would obviously be a very good game for the Reds to win

PuffyPig
09-04-2021, 09:19 PM
Phillies lose 3-2, Bradley the goat.


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PuffyPig
09-04-2021, 09:19 PM
I would guess that Miguel Cabrera is probably pretty well-liked among opposing fans.

And opposing players too.


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PuffyPig
09-04-2021, 09:20 PM
Pretty sure this ump has called that ball 4 to walk in a run a strike all night

He generally had, but it may have been a little more outside than the other ones.


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Maldez
09-04-2021, 09:22 PM
Aquino has tied César Cedeño for 12th place among players of Hispanic heritage on the Reds all-time home run list.


1. Tony Pérez [🇨🇺] - 287
2. Eugenio Suárez [🇻🇪] - 183
3. Dave Concepción [🇻🇪] - 101
4. Leo Cárdenas [🇨🇺] - 72
5. Edwin Encarnación [🇩🇴] - 71
6. Wily Mo Peña [🇩🇴] - 54
7. César Gerónimo [🇩🇴] - 44
8. Felipe López [🇵🇷] - 41
9. Nick Castellanos [🇺🇸/🇨🇺] - 40
10. Bo Díaz [🇻🇪] - 39

11. Javier Valentín [🇵🇷] - 34
12. César Cedeño [🇩🇴] - 30
12. Aristides Aquino [🇩🇴] - 30
14. Mariano Duncan [🇩🇴] - 28
14. José Peraza [🇻🇪] - 28
16. José Guillén [🇩🇴] - 27
17. Juan Castro [🇲🇽] - 25
18. Ramón Hernández [🇻🇪] - 24
19. Eduardo Pérez [🇺🇸/🇵🇷] - 23
20. Yasiel Puig [🇨🇺] - 22

21. Alex Ochoa [🇺🇸/🇨🇺] - 20
22. Luis Quiñones [🇵🇷] - 19
22. Benito Santiago [🇵🇷] - 19
22. D'Angelo Jiménez [🇩🇴] - 19
22. Alex González [🇻🇪] - 19
26. Juan Encarnación [🇩🇴] - 16
27. Jerry Hairston, Jr. [🇺🇸/🇲🇽] - 14
28. Miguel Cairo [🇻🇪] - 13
29. Roberto Kelly [🇵🇦] - 12
29. Freddy Galvis [🇻🇪] - 12

31. José Iglesias [🇨🇺] - 11
32. Rubén Rivera [🇵🇦] - 10
33. Tony Fernández [🇩🇴] - 8
34. Jacob Cruz [🇺🇸/🇲🇽] - 7
35. Carmelo Martínez [🇵🇷] - 6
35. Bronson Arroyo [🇺🇸/🇨🇺] - 6
35. Kristopher Negrón [🇺🇸/🇵🇷] - 6

38. Dolf Luque [🇨🇺] - 5
38. Héctor Cruz [🇵🇷] - 5
38. Rubén Mateo [🇩🇴] - 5
38. Édgar Rentería [🇨🇴] - 5
38. Juan Francisco [🇩🇴] - 5
38. Yonder Alonso [🇨🇺] - 5
38. Brayan Peña [🇨🇺] - 5
38. Iván DeJesús, Jr. [🇵🇷] - 5
38. Dilson Herrera [🇨🇴] - 5

47. Juan Samuel [🇩🇴] - 4
47. Adam Rosales [🇺🇸/🇲🇽] - 4
47. Orlando Cabrera [🇨🇴] - 4
47. Ramón Cabrera [🇻🇪] - 4
51. Rafael Almeida [🇨🇺] - 3
51. Tony González [🇨🇺] - 3
51. Dave Martinez [🇺🇸/🇵🇷] - 3
51. Roberto Petagine [🇻🇪] - 3
51. Jolbert Cabrera [🇨🇴] - 3

56. Elio Chacón [🇻🇪] - 2
56. Chico Ruiz [🇨🇺] - 2
56. Pat Corrales [🇺🇸/🇲🇽] - 2
56. Julián Javier [🇩🇴] - 2
56. Alex Treviño [🇲🇽] - 2
56. José Rijo [🇩🇴] - 2
56. Rubén Sierra [🇵🇷] - 2
56. Melvin Nieves [🇵🇷] - 2
56. Guillermo García [🇩🇴] - 2
56. Ray Olmedo [🇻🇪] - 2
56. Dioner Navarro [🇻🇪] - 2
56. Ramón Santiago [🇩🇴] - 2
56. Alex Blandino [🇺🇸/🇳🇮] - 2

69. Armando Marsans [🇨🇺] - 1
69. Manuel Cueto [🇨🇺] - 1
69. Arturo DeFreites [🇩🇴] - 1
69. Sam Mejías [🇩🇴] - 1
69. Rafael Landestoy [🇩🇴] - 1
69. Mario Soto [🇩🇴] - 1
69. Leo García [🇩🇴] - 1
69. Freddie Benavides [🇺🇸/🇲🇽] - 1
69. Wilton Guerrero [🇩🇴] - 1
69. Jorge Cantú [🇺🇸/🇲🇽] - 1
69. Willy Taveras [🇩🇴] - 1
69. Chris Dominguez [🇺🇸/🇨🇺] - 1
69. Arismendy Alcántara [🇩🇴] - 1
69. Tony Cruz [🇺🇸/🇨🇺] - 1
69. Gabriel Guerrero [🇩🇴] - 1

Where the heck would you get such information?

NebraskaRed
09-04-2021, 09:29 PM
Lucas "The" Sims looked pretty good there.

Alf_Red_E
09-04-2021, 09:30 PM
Just got here... was anyone else screaming for Mahle to be pulled at around 80 pitches like after the hit or after the walk... I was

kaldaniels
09-04-2021, 09:32 PM
Can’t believe of the Joses, Peraza had more homers as a Red than Guillen.

Just a perception thing I suppose.

PuffyPig
09-04-2021, 09:35 PM
Just got here... was anyone else screaming for Mahle to be pulled at around 80 pitches like after the hit or after the walk... I was

Historically Mahle gets stronger at this stage. I think most felt that the time to pull him was either before or after the walk that brought in the 4th run.


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PuffyPig
09-04-2021, 09:37 PM
Houser pitching into the 9th vs. the Cards. He seemed to be hitting a wall before, the Cards seemed to be the perfect remedy for his woes. And saves the Brewers back end bullpen for tomorrow.


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Ironman92
09-04-2021, 09:37 PM
India bomb coming

Ky Fried Redleg
09-04-2021, 09:39 PM
God, I love Schrock. Just wish he played more. Gives professional ABs.

NebraskaRed
09-04-2021, 09:39 PM
India bomb coming

A straight up in the air bomb

Big Klu
09-04-2021, 09:39 PM
Where the heck would you get such information?

Did my own research.

NebraskaRed
09-04-2021, 09:39 PM
Padres have taken the lead, 4-2

Kc61
09-04-2021, 09:40 PM
Just got here... was anyone else screaming for Mahle to be pulled at around 80 pitches like after the hit or after the walk... I was

I didn’t scream it. But I did post it before Mahle walked in the run.

I’ve seen Mahle finish strong, but I’ve seen the opposite too. These days he throws too many pitches early which often seals his fate as a five inning pitcher.

PuffyPig
09-04-2021, 09:40 PM
Where the heck would you get such information?

I believe that would come from insane fan FCB who keeps a running total of of the number of bell peppers each Cardinal players eats each even number day.

But of course that is not the info you asked for us it?


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Big Klu
09-04-2021, 09:42 PM
Can’t believe of the Joses, Peraza had more homers as a Red than Guillen.

Just a perception thing I suppose.

Peraza played four seasons for the Reds (2016-19); Guillen only played two (2002-03).

Mitri
09-04-2021, 09:43 PM
Delino is pretty smooth out there. He's got that going for him.

KeefeCato
09-04-2021, 09:44 PM
Pretty sure Deshields Jr. is really Phil Ervin.

PuffyPig
09-04-2021, 09:48 PM
Lorenzen can likely go another inning, only 9 pitches.


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Mitri
09-04-2021, 09:52 PM
Pretty sure Deshields Jr. is really Phil Ervin.

Ervin couldn't play LF as well as Delino plays center.

KeefeCato
09-04-2021, 09:54 PM
Ervin couldn't play LF as well as Delino plays center.

True but Phil has been working on his game and came back under a different name.

JFLegal
09-04-2021, 09:54 PM
Pretty sure Deshields Jr. is really Phil Ervin.

seems racist imo.

/s

KeefeCato
09-04-2021, 09:56 PM
seems racist imo.

/s

I thought only the people who wanted Garrett released was.

Ironman92
09-04-2021, 09:57 PM
Farmer really good or really bad here

Wanting good Farmer

Ironman92
09-04-2021, 09:57 PM
Pretty sure Deshields Jr. is really Phil Ervin.

2 steps faster and way smoother in CF

Ironman92
09-04-2021, 09:58 PM
So close

Ironman92
09-04-2021, 09:59 PM
I’m buying

DocRed
09-04-2021, 10:00 PM
Not sure I love the move. Aquino generally doesn't have split differences and he has had a good game...oh well hope gets a hit.

DocRed
09-04-2021, 10:01 PM
Not sure I love the move. Aquino generally doesn't have split differences and he has had a good game...oh well hope gets a hit.

Glad to be wrong!!

Ironman92
09-04-2021, 10:01 PM
The flip chart worked

Redsfan5
09-04-2021, 10:01 PM
Love that guy!


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TheBigLebowski
09-04-2021, 10:01 PM
Naquin baby

KeefeCato
09-04-2021, 10:02 PM
Fastest I have seen Geno run all season.

PuffyPig
09-04-2021, 10:02 PM
Bell pushed the right button there,

AA having a good game is an exceptionally small sample size and can be ignore plus Naquin has been by far the better hitter this year. Bell saw no LH warming up, took the gift match up.


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RedTeamGo!
09-04-2021, 10:03 PM
I thought only the people who wanted Garrett released was.

I saw a a tweet recently from a former RZer that Cincinnati won’t get behind Barrero because he isn’t a “scrappy white guy” like Farmer.

Apparently this person has never heard of Concepcion or Larkin, lol

KeefeCato
09-04-2021, 10:04 PM
2 steps faster and way smoother in CF

I know. Was saying they look like exactly a like in the face.

Ironman92
09-04-2021, 10:05 PM
Fastest I have seen Geno run all season.

With a secondary lead he still didn’t get home before Naquin got to 3rd

JFLegal
09-04-2021, 10:05 PM
triple your pleasure, tyler.

PuffyPig
09-04-2021, 10:05 PM
I recently saw a a tweet recently from a former RZer that Cincinnati won’t get behind Barrero because he isn’t a “scrappy white guy” like Farmer.

Apparently this person has never heard of Concepcion or Larkin, lol

Or Cardenas. When was the last time the Reds had a good white SS?


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KeefeCato
09-04-2021, 10:05 PM
With a secondary lead he still didn’t get home before Naquin got to 3rd

No he didn't. Someone posted here the other day how hard Geno plays. He does not play hard. He jogs to 1b when he grounds out. Castellanos plays hard Geno does not.

Ironman92
09-04-2021, 10:07 PM
I know. Was saying they look like exactly a like in the face.

Elbows are different tho

Kc61
09-04-2021, 10:07 PM
Bell pushed the right button there,

AA having a good game is an exceptionally small sample size and can be ignore plus Naquin has been by far the better hitter this year. Bell saw no LH warming up, took the gift match up.


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Aquino has a 44% strikeout rate against RHP this year.

OPS against RHP this year is .667.

Naquin was obvious IMO.

DocRed
09-04-2021, 10:11 PM
Bad play by Naquin...he was the only one that had a shot at it. Unless DD Jr called him off then bad play by him...

Ironman92
09-04-2021, 10:11 PM
Man Deshields was flying on that ball and then let up….Naquin held up earlier than expected.

Hard to say…..but I’d Deshields called it Naquin did the right thing.

Don’t know.

PuffyPig
09-04-2021, 10:12 PM
When I see a double like that, I always remember that Hamilton would have caught that in his back pocket.


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DocRed
09-04-2021, 10:12 PM
Aquino has a 44% strikeout rate against RHP this year.

OPS against RHP this year is .667.

Naquin was obvious IMO.

The result was great and because of that was there right call but I'm not sure I would call it obvious. His career OPS is .786 vs LHP and .786 vs RHP.

GullyFoyle
09-04-2021, 10:13 PM
If I had to guess from their reactions, neither called it … and both might have had a chance.

mhs95_06
09-04-2021, 10:13 PM
DeShields wasn't shy about calling Castellanos off in earlier games, but he was, and it cost him, on the gap shot in LCF with Naquin coming over. But Lorenzen gets his 2nd zero of the evening.

Kc61
09-04-2021, 10:14 PM
The result was great and because of that was there right call but I'm not sure I would call it obvious. His career OPS is .786 vs LHP and .786 vs RHP.

Aquino was a different hitter in 2019 when he was red hot. He’s fanned 44% of his PAs against RHP this season. 44%.

You cannot leave him up there, sorry, just don’t agree.

Kc61
09-04-2021, 10:20 PM
India was #5 pick in the draft, he’s not unheralded.

But, man, can this kid play. He is really something.

Ironman92
09-04-2021, 10:23 PM
Out….the slide always takes the foot longer so the ankle doesn’t snap

Miggy like a cat

DocRed
09-04-2021, 10:24 PM
NO WALKS

PuffyPig
09-04-2021, 10:24 PM
Bad luck there, instead of another run, a DP.

But the Reds had some good fortune before, it tends to even out.


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DocRed
09-04-2021, 10:27 PM
It's painful to think how much better this team would be with a real closer like Raisel. I hope that Castellini and company are kicking themselves for that move...they sure as hell deserve it.

Ironman92
09-04-2021, 10:28 PM
We need an out

Kc61
09-04-2021, 10:29 PM
It's painful to think how much better this team would be with a real closer like Raisel. I hope that Castellini and company are kicking themselves for that move...they sure as hell deserve it.

On this, we firmly agree.

Ron Madden
09-04-2021, 10:30 PM
REDS WIN!!!

Kc61
09-04-2021, 10:31 PM
Nice job Givens, Reds win.

One of the biggest wins of the year, need tomorrow’s game as well.

Big win!

REDREAD
09-04-2021, 10:31 PM
Nice to get the win, nice game to watch. :)

DocRed
09-04-2021, 10:31 PM
Good bounce back by Mychal....I'm still not convinced he is the guy though.

Larry Schuler
09-04-2021, 10:32 PM
Reds leading the second wild card and not letting go of it. Playoff fireworks coming to the “Neopolitan City” aka Cincy aka Sincinnati aka Cincinnati, Ohio. Just keep doing what you’re doing, WC, and you got this.

^ Perhaps your elders know what they’re talking about when they tell you to believe in the wishbone C.

Tom Servo
09-04-2021, 10:32 PM
We’re good again! :beerme:

mhs95_06
09-04-2021, 10:32 PM
Welsh with a high pitching comment about Schrock, saying Givens struck out Schoop on the same pitch that Schrock struck him out on last night!

Ky Fried Redleg
09-04-2021, 10:36 PM
Nice bounce back win tonight. Really, REALLY needed this one!!!

TheBigLebowski
09-04-2021, 10:41 PM
This was a critical win. Against a lefty, down 3 runs at that

Ron Madden
09-04-2021, 10:48 PM
This team is resilient and relentless.

They don't give up as easily as some of their fans do.

JFLegal
09-04-2021, 11:04 PM
good, good, good win. let's get another tomorrow.

Mitri
09-04-2021, 11:27 PM
Big win. Still not sure they’re out of the muck. A win tomorrow would help.

Tom Servo
09-05-2021, 02:16 AM
I said yesterday it felt like the Reds don't have many games where they come back from down several runs to win. ESPN says before this one the Reds were 1-46 when trailing by 3+ runs.

Maldez
09-05-2021, 09:19 AM
Did my own research.

You must be retired....I can't imagine the time that must have taken.