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Ron Madden
09-08-2021, 03:09 PM
Reds
1. Jonathan India (R) 2B
2. Tyler Naquin (L) CF
3. Nick Castellanos (R) RF
4. Joey Votto (L) 1B
5. Mike Moustakas (L) 3B
6. Kyle Farmer (R) SS
7. Tucker Barnhart (L) C
8. Max Schrock (L) LF
9. Vladimir Gutierrez (R) P

Cubs
1. Rafael Ortega (L) CF
2. Frank Schwindel (R) 1B
3. Ian Happ (S) LF
4. Willson Contreras (R) C
5. Patrick Wisdom (R) 3B
6. Jason Heyward (L) RF
7. David Bote (R) 2B
8. Sergio Alcantara (S) SS
9. Alec Mills (R) P

Ky Fried Redleg
09-08-2021, 03:22 PM
I would like to see David do whatever it took to get both Schrock and Stephenson in the lineup everyday. Honestly, I have confidence in those two regardless of who's on the mound. We REALLY need to win this series. GO REDS!!!

KeefeCato
09-08-2021, 03:24 PM
Big game. But at this point they all are.

Kc61
09-08-2021, 03:39 PM
I would like to see David do whatever it took to get both Schrock and Stephenson in the lineup everyday. Honestly, I have confidence in those two regardless of who's on the mound. We REALLY need to win this series. GO REDS!!!

Stephenson will play against Lester and Happ in Cards series.

Mitri
09-08-2021, 03:43 PM
Big game. But at this point they all are.

Yeah. They need to win a series if they're serious about talking playoffs.

Alf_Red_E
09-08-2021, 03:44 PM
I have examined the standings and found that if you watched the Reds play 1,000 games and they won 529 of them that you too might think the odds of winning is 50-50 on any given game.

(Regardless of how bad of a fan people think I am).

Alf_Red_E
09-08-2021, 04:11 PM
Big game. But at this point they all are.

You can't control what happened yesterday, nor can you control what might happen tomorrow.

Making today the biggest game of the year

Tom Servo
09-08-2021, 04:17 PM
win a series for once!

Ron Madden
09-08-2021, 04:30 PM
Wednesday marks the rubber match of the three-game set and is also the final meeting of the teams this year. Cincinnati leads 11-7 through the first 18 games of the season series.

Reds RHP Vladimir Gutierrez (9-6, 4.17 ERA) makes his 19th start as a rookie. He has a 1.33 WHIP, 3.3 BB/9 and 6.9 K/9 through 99 1/3 IP.

Gutierrez has allowed 2 or fewer earned runs in 12 of his 18 outings. The Reds are 7-3 on the road in his starts.
He has not made it out of the fourth inning in either of his last two starts and has an ERA of 11.37 in those 6 1/3 innings.

Cubs RHP Alec Mills (6-6, 4.25 ERA) makes his 16th start and 28th appearance. He has a 1.41 WHIP, 2.4 BB/9 and 6.7 K/9 through 95 1/3 IP.

He is 0-2 with a 5.68 ERA in 12 2/3 innings pitched against the Reds across two starts and one relief appearance.
The Cubs are 6-9 this season when he starts.
https://sportsbookwire.usatoday.com/2021/09/08/cincinnati-reds-at-chicago-cubs-odds-expert-picks-and-prediction-2/

OldFashionedRed
09-08-2021, 04:50 PM
If Gutierrez keeps the badly-timed walks and HR's down, we should win.

Alf_Red_E
09-08-2021, 04:56 PM
If Gutierrez keeps the badly-timed walks and HR's down, we should win.

In the category of not letting the best hitter beat you, a few well placed walks (Happ) might be the best strategy...

Aside from the out scoring your opponent strategy which I have never seen fail.

Kc61
09-08-2021, 06:02 PM
The number that has saved Vlad, as a low strikeout, pitch-to-contact starter, is his 15.7% LD rate. It’s quite low and perhaps not sustainable.

All Reds other starters have LD rates considerably higher (generally good as a group, around 20% with Miley 23.5%).

Hopefully, Vlad will keep that low LD rate going for tonight and the rest of this season.

JP321
09-08-2021, 07:50 PM
Nick seems to be expanding the strike zone a lot lately. Gotta get him back to locking in and driving the ball

TheBigLebowski
09-08-2021, 07:51 PM
Do Not Pitch To Happ. Period.

mhs95_06
09-08-2021, 07:52 PM
Our guy with a .465 on base percentage in the first inning does his typical good job of leading off, but after the next 2 batters there were 3 outs!

coryfly
09-08-2021, 07:54 PM
Our guy with a .465 on base percentage in the first inning does his typical good job of leading off, but after the next 2 batters there were 3 outs!

Yeah, basically two double play balls.

coryfly
09-08-2021, 07:56 PM
Team if flipping brain dead. Guy continues to kill you and you just serve one up to him? Pitch around him and make him chase or put him on. Just stupid baseball.

Red Raindog
09-08-2021, 07:56 PM
The scouting reports are hapless


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TheBigLebowski
09-08-2021, 07:56 PM
^#*+^#{ idiots. Freaking idiots.

BluegrassRedleg
09-08-2021, 07:56 PM
What an absolute effing joke.

OldFashionedRed
09-08-2021, 07:56 PM
Fantastic start by Gutierrez.

dakota42
09-08-2021, 07:56 PM
Do Not Pitch To Happ. Period.

Of course they don't listen.

JP321
09-08-2021, 07:57 PM
U can't throw it down the middle to him.. that's just poor location. But Reds do that a lot to Happ

coryfly
09-08-2021, 07:57 PM
No outs and an 0-1 count and you do that dumb ****. How do they not have a plan before the game to pitch around him in that situation? It's inexcusable.

TheBigLebowski
09-08-2021, 07:58 PM
How do we attack Happ, Coach?

Fastball belt high down the pipe.

Really?

Yeah.


Morons. Total morons.

BluegrassRedleg
09-08-2021, 07:58 PM
Team if flipping brain dead. Guy continues to kill you and you just serve one up to him? Pitch around him and make him chase or put him on. Just stupid baseball.

You act like this is a playoff race or something. Wait a minute...

Roy Tucker
09-08-2021, 07:58 PM
Just walk him the rest of the year.

BCubb2003
09-08-2021, 08:00 PM
We’ve been blaming Bob Castellini but it turns out the Reds are owned by Ian Happ.

Kc61
09-08-2021, 08:01 PM
C’mon. Vlad has poise. Looks polished.

JP321
09-08-2021, 08:02 PM
Moose hits more pop ups than Willie Mays Hays

klw
09-08-2021, 08:04 PM
Do Not Pitch To Happ. Period.

He has 21 homers on the year. Surprisingly 7 have come against the Reds. I am surprised that the number isn't higher.

coryfly
09-08-2021, 08:07 PM
Just not a difficult play there. Abysmal to make an error on that.

Ironman92
09-08-2021, 08:08 PM
That’s how good Farmer is….has he missed one all year? Wrigley I field does suck and everyone outside of Darwin Barney is susceptible

OldFashionedRed
09-08-2021, 08:09 PM
Just not a difficult play there. Abysmal to make an error on that.

I know he was hurt and it takes awhile to shake off the pizzas and burgers, but can't the guy ever be aggressive? I mean, show some fire out there?

coryfly
09-08-2021, 08:10 PM
Good pitch to get him right there.

Ky Fried Redleg
09-08-2021, 08:10 PM
Moose pops em up ; Happ pops em out .

Mousse 16 M
Happ 4M

Kc61
09-08-2021, 08:11 PM
Miley last night and Vlad tonight seem to be throwing a bit harder than usual.

More velocity.

Sounds like a plan.

miamiredskin
09-08-2021, 08:11 PM
Can't stand it. No way a real competitor allows Happ to beat you. I wouldn't watch myself play if I were that clueless.

Kc61
09-08-2021, 08:13 PM
Moose pops em up ; Happ pops em out .

Mousse 16 M
Happ 4M

Bryce Harper has a $330 million contract. He’s struck out 108 times this year.

Tom Servo
09-08-2021, 08:14 PM
Moose pops em up ; Happ pops em out .

Mousse 16 M
Happ 4M
He literally only pops them out against the Reds though.

coryfly
09-08-2021, 08:14 PM
Even if they get Mills out here now Vlad has to start at the top of the order rather than star at the 8 spot because of terrible fundamental baseball stuff that continues to plague this team.

Kc61
09-08-2021, 08:15 PM
C’mon Vlad just strike out the pitcher.

Thank you.

Ironman92
09-08-2021, 08:18 PM
Happ

Career vs Brewers 3 HR .614 OPS


Maybe watch some video of how they pitch him…..just a thought

Career vs Reds 22 HR 1.090 OPS

Mutaman
09-08-2021, 08:18 PM
Bryce Harper has a $330 million contract. He’s struck out 108 times this year.


Bobby Bonilla only gets paid 1.9 million this year. Of course he hasn't played since 2001.

Ironman92
09-08-2021, 08:18 PM
He literally only pops them out against the Reds though.

16 against Cardinals

Ironman92
09-08-2021, 08:20 PM
Their infield is trash

BluegrassRedleg
09-08-2021, 08:21 PM
It's Only Schrock & Roll But I Like It

Ironman92
09-08-2021, 08:21 PM
Their infield is trash

But that was all Schrock lol

BCubb2003
09-08-2021, 08:21 PM
Bobby Bonilla only gets paid 1.9 million this year. Of course he hasn't played since 2001.

Give the guy a break. He’s a retiree on a fixed income.

TheBigLebowski
09-08-2021, 08:22 PM
This team cannot hit starting pitching. Remove modifiers “good,” “junkball,” “lefty,” “quality,” “major league,” “living,” and “high school.” They’re just getting whipped by everyone.

Kc61
09-08-2021, 08:22 PM
Schrock gets a bloop hit after recognizing that there is a playing area on the non-pull side of the baseball field.

coryfly
09-08-2021, 08:23 PM
My boy Mills is averaging like 10 pitches an inning and completely dominating. Pretty frustrating.

TheBigLebowski
09-08-2021, 08:25 PM
Clueless against a forensic accountant named Herschel.

Are these guys vaping before games? Eating goofballs?

coryfly
09-08-2021, 08:30 PM
Well, can't pitch around him now. Not a great spot for a walk.

coryfly
09-08-2021, 08:34 PM
That was a terrible call and Vlad was really lucky. Really poor job throwing strikes here.

coryfly
09-08-2021, 08:37 PM
Well, he isn't going to last very long but at least hasn't allowed more than the one run so far.

Ironman92
09-08-2021, 08:41 PM
We gonna win this game

TheBigLebowski
09-08-2021, 08:43 PM
So bad.

Red Raindog
09-08-2021, 08:45 PM
Votto’s funk is over


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BluegrassRedleg
09-08-2021, 08:45 PM
BANG BANG

Ironman92
09-08-2021, 08:45 PM
We gonna win this game

Prophet

coryfly
09-08-2021, 08:45 PM
Heck yeah. Votto still getting it done.

TheBigLebowski
09-08-2021, 08:45 PM
Oh thank you Joseph. Do it 2 more times tonight.

OldFashionedRed
09-08-2021, 08:46 PM
Now THAT is how you know Votto is hitting well, when he's powering opposite field.

George Foster
09-08-2021, 08:46 PM
Some goober just threw back a home run ball from a future HOF'er....

BluegrassRedleg
09-08-2021, 08:47 PM
Phils down 3-1
Cards up 3-1
Padres up 1-0

TheBigLebowski
09-08-2021, 08:48 PM
Some goober just threw back a home run ball from a future HOF'er....

Such a stupid tradition. I’d keep each and every one.

podgejeff_
09-08-2021, 08:50 PM
Bobby Bonilla only gets paid 1.9 million this year. Of course he hasn't played since 2001.

You know we're still paying Bronson Arroyo $1.3 million this year? And we're paying Griffey 3.5 through 2024.

The Griffey one is less surprising than the Arroyo to me, for some reason.

Ky Fried Redleg
09-08-2021, 08:50 PM
Some goober just threw back a home run ball from a future HOF'er....

Cubs' fans... They think differently than most.

BluegrassRedleg
09-08-2021, 08:52 PM
Thought the Marlins pitcher was thought to be the main challenger to India for ROY?

PuffyPig
09-08-2021, 08:52 PM
This team cannot hit starting pitching. Remove modifiers “good,” “junkball,” “lefty,” “quality,” “major league,” “living,” and “high school.” They’re just getting whipped by everyone.

Well, they are easily second in the NL in runs scored, so they must be at least OK LOL.

I can’t image that are scoring all their runs off of relievers.


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coryfly
09-08-2021, 08:53 PM
Such a stupid tradition. I’d keep each and every one.

Yeah, last night a kid caught one from one of our guys and was thrilled even though he was a Cubs fan. Kid was fired up.

PuffyPig
09-08-2021, 08:53 PM
Thought the Marlins pitcher was thought to be the main challenger to India for ROY?

Injuries have hurt his chances.


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KeefeCato
09-08-2021, 08:57 PM
Injuries have hurt his chances.


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He wasn't injured. Was out almost a month on family medical emergency leave. Just came back this week.

RiverfrontRed
09-08-2021, 08:58 PM
Is there a bigger waste of a Reds uniform that Moustakas?? At least Suarez hits a timely home run now and then.

George Foster
09-08-2021, 08:58 PM
Dare I say Reds zone is in a little offensive funk too with less than 80 posts in the 5th inning.

DocRed
09-08-2021, 09:00 PM
Time to blow Mills up...

mhs95_06
09-08-2021, 09:00 PM
Some goober just threw back a home run ball from a future HOF'er....

Are you sure it was the HR ball. Those guys bring junk balls with them and then throw the junk back and keep the genuine HR ball!

coryfly
09-08-2021, 09:00 PM
Is there a bigger waste of a Reds uniform that Moustakas?? At least Suarez hits a timely home run now and then.

He is also better at third base. Awful at SS but solid at third IMO. Maybe I'm mistaken there though. Both of them are pretty bad though.

George Foster
09-08-2021, 09:03 PM
Are you sure it was the HR ball. Those guys bring junk balls with them and then throw the junk back and keep the genuine HR ball!

Not 100% sure but the guy that caught it hesitated....the mob shamed him and he threw a ball back. I would say it was the HR ball.

Ky Fried Redleg
09-08-2021, 09:04 PM
Big win if we can find some way to get this one. Might add another game to the lead over the Phils. Can't afford to lose this series.

OldFashionedRed
09-08-2021, 09:04 PM
Dare I say Reds zone is in a little offensive funk too with less than 80 posts in the 5th inning.

May have something to do with the team not winning, and not getting blown out. There's a truce :lol:

George Foster
09-08-2021, 09:06 PM
Simmons made the hall and people are debating Votto?

BluegrassRedleg
09-08-2021, 09:08 PM
Brantley nailed why interleague play is good IMO. I would have loved to see the George Bretts and Rod Carews in person or more often on TV back in the day.

JP321
09-08-2021, 09:09 PM
Gutierrez is gassed

George Foster
09-08-2021, 09:09 PM
Don't walk the 8th hitter to lead off the inning... just a thought

Ky Fried Redleg
09-08-2021, 09:10 PM
Time to blow Mills up...

A guy that looks just like this Mills guy blew up our chemistry lab two years ago.

BCubb2003
09-08-2021, 09:11 PM
Simmons made the hall and people are debating Votto?

If Larry Walker shares the honor with all Canadians, does that mean Votto is in the Hall of Fame now?

DocRed
09-08-2021, 09:14 PM
Great play by Moose! That was not an easy play when playing so shallow

OldFashionedRed
09-08-2021, 09:14 PM
Gutierrez is gassed

Sorry, he needs to throw into the 6th-7th inning here. At some point they need to stop bailing halfway thru the game.

Ironman92
09-08-2021, 09:14 PM
Some goober just threw back a home run ball from a future HOF'er....

Well the Cubs fans berate you and bully you until it happens….and sadly is almost the same in the outfield at GABP

Throwing the ball back is meaningless and idiotic and what’s dumber are the drunk ass part time kinda baseball fans yelling and booing a kid to throw a HR ball back.

George Foster
09-08-2021, 09:14 PM
Brantley nailed why interleague play is good IMO. I would have loved to see the George Bretts and Rod Carews in person or more often on TV back in the day.

Only if every team in the division plays the same interleague teams the same number of games. White Sox played the Cubs 6 games. Cleveland had to play the Reds. Not exactly fair in my opinion. I understand your reasoning but it sucks to have to play a good team 6 times when your division rival plays a bad team.

Mitri
09-08-2021, 09:14 PM
Moose is still a gamer. Kind of tired of the chatter here demeaning the guy.

TheBigLebowski
09-08-2021, 09:14 PM
Nice play Mous.

NOW HIT

OldFashionedRed
09-08-2021, 09:15 PM
Great play by Moose! That was not an easy play when playing so shallow

And to throw pivoting away from second.

mhs95_06
09-08-2021, 09:15 PM
Nice footwork by Moose to start the DP that overcomes the lead-off walk to the 8th hitter!

OldFashionedRed
09-08-2021, 09:15 PM
Moose is still a gamer. Kind of tired of the chatter here demeaning the guy.

Demeaning? I must have missed people calling him names.

Rantly
09-08-2021, 09:16 PM
Is there a bigger waste of a Reds uniform that Moustakas?? At least Suarez hits a timely home run now and then.

Didn’t he get a big hit last night to make it 3-1 in the eighth?
and a nice pick to start the DP

TheBigLebowski
09-08-2021, 09:16 PM
Well, they are easily second in the NL in runs scored, so they must be at least OK LOL.

I can’t image that are scoring all their runs off of relievers.


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Clearly I was referring to the Reds team in an absolute, undeniable funk at the plate.

Mitri
09-08-2021, 09:16 PM
Demeaning? I must have missed people calling him names.

Yeah, guess you missed it. Lotta trash on this board lately.

OldFashionedRed
09-08-2021, 09:18 PM
Yeah, guess you missed it. Lotta trash on this board lately.

If people are talking about his stats, that's not trash. That's facts. If people are saying that is way out of shape, who could argue that?

dakota42
09-08-2021, 09:18 PM
We have to win with the Padres up 8-0.

TheBigLebowski
09-08-2021, 09:19 PM
SDP up 8-0 in the 3rd. We’ve scored 9 runs THIS WEEK.

Roy Tucker
09-08-2021, 09:20 PM
So, I watching the game from a bar and I thought it said Votto hit a 2 run HR. Did I just misread what the screen said?

Tom Servo
09-08-2021, 09:20 PM
If people are saying that is way out of shape, who could argue that?
Probably because he literally looks the same as he always has, funny how he only became a fat worthless slob once he went into a slump.

TheBigLebowski
09-08-2021, 09:21 PM
3 up 3 down yadda yadda yadda

coryfly
09-08-2021, 09:22 PM
So, I watching the game from a bar and I thought it said Votto hit a 2 run HR. Did I just misread what the screen said?

The tv had a runner on first still I think. Didn't register the DP for some reason.

JP321
09-08-2021, 09:22 PM
Nick is just getting himself out. He has swung at the same type of pitch 3 times, and same result

OldFashionedRed
09-08-2021, 09:23 PM
How is a starting pitcher, when you have a bullpen like we do, coming out after 85 pitches after FIVE INNINGS?

Kc61
09-08-2021, 09:24 PM
Nick is just getting himself out. He has swung at the same type of pitch 3 times, and same result

Needs to go to RF. Nick is at his best going oppo much of the time.

Mitri
09-08-2021, 09:26 PM
Nasty pitch by Santillan there to K Happ.

coryfly
09-08-2021, 09:26 PM
Yeah, not sure I would pull Vlad. I like Santillan though.

Ironman92
09-08-2021, 09:29 PM
Great work!

We are going to win

George Foster
09-08-2021, 09:30 PM
Time for a Cub error....

Ironman92
09-08-2021, 09:31 PM
Time for a Cub error....

Screw that….we are winning with hits

DocRed
09-08-2021, 09:31 PM
This O needs to wake up already....

Ironman92
09-08-2021, 09:36 PM
Yeah Sadak…Votto’s HR pumped up Santillan to get throw the next inning [emoji2359]

DocRed
09-08-2021, 09:37 PM
Painful......

Tom Servo
09-08-2021, 09:37 PM
:sleep:

TheBigLebowski
09-08-2021, 09:38 PM
“Rowan Wick throws a lot of pitches - 17 per inning.”

Reds: Work him for 10 over 4 batters.

mhs95_06
09-08-2021, 09:41 PM
A break from the ump for the first out!

TheBigLebowski
09-08-2021, 09:41 PM
Brantley tip-toeing into Thom Territory by suggesting he doesn’t like rap and it should be obvious due to his voice.

DocRed
09-08-2021, 09:45 PM
Sanitillan has looked great and hasn't pitched for 5 innings. I'd leave him in there....this is a very important game to win.

TheBigLebowski
09-08-2021, 09:47 PM
Lauren Shehadi is hot. Go Florida Gator College of Journalism.

forfreelin04
09-08-2021, 09:49 PM
Lauren Shehadi is hot. Go Florida Gator College of Journalism.

100%

Roy Tucker
09-08-2021, 09:49 PM
Castellanos almost always swings at the first pitch. The rest of the Reds almost always take.

PuffyPig
09-08-2021, 09:50 PM
Mets lose.


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forfreelin04
09-08-2021, 09:51 PM
Surprised only 9 pages in this game thread.

I've noticed the Reds overall have a lot less pep. We can look back at these last few games and safely say it was not the bullpen

TheBigLebowski
09-08-2021, 09:52 PM
Geeeeez. That had to leave.

forfreelin04
09-08-2021, 09:52 PM
So close!! India with a double off the middle of the IVY in right center

TheBigLebowski
09-08-2021, 09:52 PM
Surprised only 9 pages in this game thread.

I've noticed the Reds overall have a lot less pep. We can look back at these last few games and safely say it was not the bullpen

Nope. Hitting. Hitting. Hitting.

BluegrassRedleg
09-08-2021, 09:53 PM
Don't need a dang homer, Sadak.

forfreelin04
09-08-2021, 09:54 PM
First pitch was an absolute hanger. Swung at next one..didn't hang as much.

OldFashionedRed
09-08-2021, 09:54 PM
Where do you guys get the salary numbers? I find it interesting that the Reds still owe money to guys that haven't been in the big leagues for years.

Roy Tucker
09-08-2021, 09:54 PM
India stranded.

George Foster
09-08-2021, 09:54 PM
As Freddie Fender would say.."wasted days and wasted nights."

Kc61
09-08-2021, 09:54 PM
Reds just seem pull happy like last season.

Tom Servo
09-08-2021, 09:54 PM
The Pirates scored 19 runs in their last 3 games against the Cubs. So far through 2 games and 8 innings of a third we've got 8.

The Pirates also won 2 out of 3 against the Tigers.

The Reds just seem worn out.

Bob Sheed
09-08-2021, 09:54 PM
NyQuil strikes again.

TheBigLebowski
09-08-2021, 09:55 PM
8 innings and 1 run against Alec Mills and Rowan Wick. Pretty sure they were characters on Days of Our Lives.

People wonder why there’s not much action in the game thread. This is not enjoyable baseball to watch.

forfreelin04
09-08-2021, 09:56 PM
Don't need a dang homer, Sadak.

I wonder; will he ever see a Shogo homer?

forfreelin04
09-08-2021, 09:58 PM
The Pirates scored 19 runs in their last 3 games against the Cubs. So far through 2 games and 8 innings of a third we've got 8.

The Pirates also won 2 out of 3 against the Tigers.

The Reds just seem worn out.

Off day tomorrow. I think the pressure is also a factor.

Sometimes you gotta win games when you ain't at your best. Long season... especially after 2020 being so short.

Roy Tucker
09-08-2021, 09:58 PM
Seeing the American Airlines logo on the Wrigley bricks reminds me of how many times I’ve flown in and out of O’Hare.

Kc61
09-08-2021, 09:59 PM
Reds keep hitting easy outs into the shift. That makes them look lethargic.

BluegrassRedleg
09-08-2021, 09:59 PM
Well done, Cessa.

Let's go, Redlegs. We gotta finish them now.

forfreelin04
09-08-2021, 09:59 PM
Cessa pitches a perfect 8th.

Big boppers for the Reds coming to the plate

George Foster
09-08-2021, 10:00 PM
Nick needs to bust out of it here!

M2
09-08-2021, 10:00 PM
8 innings and 1 run against Alec Mills and Rowan Wick. Pretty sure they were characters on Days of Our Lives.

People wonder why there’s not much action in the game thread. This is not enjoyable baseball to watch.

Unless you like pitching.

OldFashionedRed
09-08-2021, 10:00 PM
"Nick Castellanos......Joey Votto.......

.................................................. .........due up". :laugh:

Mitri
09-08-2021, 10:00 PM
Cessa is a gem. Can't believe the Yanks gave him away.

George Foster
09-08-2021, 10:00 PM
Reds bullpen has been steller tonight

Roy Tucker
09-08-2021, 10:01 PM
Unless you like pitching.

There is good pitching and there is bad hitting.

coryfly
09-08-2021, 10:01 PM
If they keep playing they eventually have to score.

OldFashionedRed
09-08-2021, 10:01 PM
Off day tomorrow. I think the pressure is also a factor.

Sometimes you gotta win games when you ain't at your best. Long season... especially after 2020 being so short.

I know. What in the world shall they ever do from October to February?

Mitri
09-08-2021, 10:02 PM
Unless you like pitching.

Lots of great defense tonight too (and last night).

Ky Fried Redleg
09-08-2021, 10:03 PM
As Freddie Fender would say.."wasted days and wasted nights."

If we don't score here in the ninth, we may be rememberinfg Freddy's words... "before the next teardrop falls."

M2
09-08-2021, 10:03 PM
There is good pitching and there is bad hitting.

Sure, and sometimes there's both.

OldFashionedRed
09-08-2021, 10:03 PM
Good Lord, if that guy gets his fingers in the way of that... :eek:

forfreelin04
09-08-2021, 10:04 PM
I know. What in the world shall they ever do from October to February?

I get it. They can rest then. But 162 is a grind

podgejeff_
09-08-2021, 10:04 PM
Where do you guys get the salary numbers? I find it interesting that the Reds still owe money to guys that haven't been in the big leagues for years.

https://www.spotrac.com/mlb/cincinnati-reds/payroll/

Ironman92
09-08-2021, 10:05 PM
“Rowan Wick throws a lot of pitches - 17 per inning.”

Reds: Work him for 10 over 4 batters.

Reds have drilled that exact approach for 20 years

BluegrassRedleg
09-08-2021, 10:05 PM
Pull into the shift when a free baserunner was there with a bunt to third.

Ironman92
09-08-2021, 10:06 PM
Lauren Shehadi is hot. Go Florida Gator College of Journalism.

Those legs

George Foster
09-08-2021, 10:06 PM
Can't blame this on left handed pitching

forfreelin04
09-08-2021, 10:06 PM
"The New Guy" flies out. Wind blowing in.

Fil3232
09-08-2021, 10:06 PM
It’s crazy how much this does feel like last October all of a sudden

BluegrassRedleg
09-08-2021, 10:06 PM
MOUSTAKAS!!!! (routinely flies out to right field)

TheBigLebowski
09-08-2021, 10:06 PM
Unless you like pitching.

I would put this more in the “awful hitting” bucket.

You don’t buy a ticket to Waveland to watch Alec Mills and Tony Santillan.

Ironman92
09-08-2021, 10:08 PM
No pitches up and away to drive oppo HR, nothing center cut and no down and in to lefties

Good luck

OldFashionedRed
09-08-2021, 10:09 PM
I get it. They can rest then. But 162 is a grind

IMO, when you are in contention for a wildcard you should be EAGER to get to the plate, to pitch, to put the other teams away. It's a mindset thing.

Roy Tucker
09-08-2021, 10:09 PM
Sure, and sometimes there's both.

Yeah. Like most things, there is one side and there is another and the truth lies somewhere inbetween.

But Reds hitters seem to let the pitchers dictate the count.

OldFashionedRed
09-08-2021, 10:09 PM
MOUSTAKAS!!!! (routinely flies out to right field)

LMAO, that was a little embarassing.

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https://www.spotrac.com/mlb/cincinnati-reds/payroll/

Thanks, Podge.

forfreelin04
09-08-2021, 10:11 PM
IMO, when you are in contention for a wildcard you should be EAGER to get to the plate, to pitch, to put the other teams away. It's a mindset thing.

They do look eager at the plate. Swinging at a lot of early pitches.

Maybe they all had some bad Giordanos for the late night dinner yesterday.

Ky Fried Redleg
09-08-2021, 10:12 PM
MOUSTAKAS!!!! (routinely flies out to right field)

Moose's nickname should be "CAN 'O CORN ."

George Foster
09-08-2021, 10:13 PM
Having a pitcher friendly umpire has attributed to the 1-1 game..

Ironman92
09-08-2021, 10:14 PM
Having a pitcher friendly umpire has attributed to the 1-1 game..

Having baseball friendly hitters has helped too

coryfly
09-08-2021, 10:15 PM
Great job by Givens. Let's try to do this scoring runs thing.

M2
09-08-2021, 10:15 PM
I would put this more in the “awful hitting” bucket.

You don’t buy a ticket to Waveland to watch Alec Mills and Tony Santillan.

Tony Santillan is down to a 2.70 ERA as a reliever. Think he might be good at it.

Roy Tucker
09-08-2021, 10:15 PM
Nice inning by Givens.

Ironman92
09-08-2021, 10:15 PM
See that bad hop Farmer got….

Now he gonna be big late again

Mitri
09-08-2021, 10:15 PM
Santillan-Cessa-Givens is my kind of bullpen sequencing. Those are my dudes.

BluegrassRedleg
09-08-2021, 10:16 PM
Bullpen seems more focused when we aren't scoring.

mhs95_06
09-08-2021, 10:16 PM
Have got to score the free runner this inning, and hopefully the Cubs will mess up and it'll be a multi run inning.

Ironman92
09-08-2021, 10:16 PM
Santillan-Cessa-Givens is my kind of bullpen sequencing. Those are my dudes.

They all deliver their pitches differently…..that’s big to me.

George Foster
09-08-2021, 10:17 PM
Have got to score the free runner this inning, and hopefully the Cubs will mess up and it'll be a multi run inning.

With the way we're not hitting. Sac bunt him to 3rd hope for a fly ball or a ball hit to the right side.

Ironman92
09-08-2021, 10:17 PM
Wait….is Deshields faster than Moose? It’s close

mhs95_06
09-08-2021, 10:17 PM
Farmer a complete bust on that one pitch AB.

BluegrassRedleg
09-08-2021, 10:18 PM
Utterly pathetic AB. Jesus Christ.

Ironman92
09-08-2021, 10:18 PM
Farmer with a Heisey

Mitri
09-08-2021, 10:18 PM
Can we please just extend Givens? Trading him for Lorenzen over the next 2 years or so would be a boost.

TheBigLebowski
09-08-2021, 10:18 PM
First pitch. Soft IF fly. Good Lord.

George Foster
09-08-2021, 10:18 PM
With the way we're not hitting. Sac bunt him to 3rd hope for a fly ball or a ball hit to the right side.

Oh well...

Bob Sheed
09-08-2021, 10:18 PM
Yawner pops out.

BluegrassRedleg
09-08-2021, 10:18 PM
I mean, effin' A, what the hell was that, Farmer? Approached that like it was the third inning of a game in May.

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Somebody PLEASE show us a professional effing AB.

coryfly
09-08-2021, 10:20 PM
Not sure what the approach is but swinging at anything close doesn't seem to be working lately. They really make it easy on pitchers at times.

TheBigLebowski
09-08-2021, 10:20 PM
May as well have DeShields steal 3rd and home.

OldFashionedRed
09-08-2021, 10:20 PM
Am I correct in reading that Suarez & Moose are owed the following:

Suarez
2021 10.5M
2022 11M
2023 11M
2024 11M
2025 15M

Moose
2021 14M
2022 16M
2023 18M
2024 20M

For the math challenged (totals per year)
2021 24.5M
2022 27M
2023 29M
2024 34M
2025 15M

Yikes!

Ironman92
09-08-2021, 10:21 PM
Yeah….I’m having Deshields try to steal 3rd

Playadlc
09-08-2021, 10:21 PM
Feel good with Schrock here.

Bob Sheed
09-08-2021, 10:21 PM
Barnfart breaks wind for out number 2.

Ironman92
09-08-2021, 10:21 PM
Am I correct in reading that Suarez & Moose are owed the following:

Suarez
2021 10.5M
2022 11M
2023 11M
2024 11M
2025 15M

Moose
2021 14M
2022 16M
2023 18M
2024 20M

For the math challenged (totals per year)
2021 24.5M
2022 27M
2023 29M
2024 34M
2025 15M

Yikes!

I just care that they are sucking

Mitri
09-08-2021, 10:21 PM
Farmer's OPS is nearing sub-.700 again...UGH

coryfly
09-08-2021, 10:22 PM
Surely he isn't going to pitch Brach next inning.

OldFashionedRed
09-08-2021, 10:22 PM
I just care that they are sucking

Well....if they spent their money more wisely (or more, period) maybe what would be over there wouldn't (what you said) ;)

George Foster
09-08-2021, 10:23 PM
Farmer's OPS is nearing sub-.700 again...UGH

He won last night's game...

Ironman92
09-08-2021, 10:23 PM
At least our remaining schedule is easy!!!

Roy Tucker
09-08-2021, 10:23 PM
Hum.

mhs95_06
09-08-2021, 10:23 PM
75% chance to lose now.

BluegrassRedleg
09-08-2021, 10:23 PM
Well, that was something.

TheBigLebowski
09-08-2021, 10:23 PM
Nice AB Shrek. You’re learning how things are done here, kid.

Bob Sheed
09-08-2021, 10:24 PM
Schlep schleps another AB for out number 3.

Mitri
09-08-2021, 10:24 PM
He won last night's game...

Yes, and I love him for those moments. But I'd prefer Farmer in a part-time role. That's just me though.

George Foster
09-08-2021, 10:24 PM
75% chance to lose now.

Tell us how you really feel...:laugh:

WVRedsFan
09-08-2021, 10:24 PM
Surely he isn't going to pitch Brach next inning.

Yep. Bombs away dream baby.

Kc61
09-08-2021, 10:24 PM
Schrock swung at pitch in the dirt for strike three.

Not sure what’s going on with this offense but it isn’t pretty.

mhs95_06
09-08-2021, 10:24 PM
Once Tucker and Schrock got to 2 strikes, they were set for the out of zone breaking ball K!

RedsFanInMS
09-08-2021, 10:25 PM
This is so frustrating. No approach. None.

forfreelin04
09-08-2021, 10:25 PM
If your the Cubs, is the bunt not worth consideration? It's opens up the opportunity for a sac fly. Granted your counting on the one batter. But it puts pressure on a pitcher for sure.

Ironman92
09-08-2021, 10:25 PM
Well....if they spent their money more wisely (or more, period) maybe what would be over there wouldn't (what you said) ;)

Not sure what to about it here in the 10th inning……they are in the big leagues so there able to help us win on occasion, be it paying to play or making Trout money.

There are dozens of players making insane salaries on the front seat of the struggle bus and dozens making near league minimum raking daily.

davereds24
09-08-2021, 10:25 PM
Brad Brach lmao

TheBigLebowski
09-08-2021, 10:25 PM
Brach. This is our version of a white flag.

Ironman92
09-08-2021, 10:26 PM
75% chance to lose now.

You typed 98% incorrectly

mhs95_06
09-08-2021, 10:26 PM
Good situation for Brach, an earned run is unlikely!

OldFashionedRed
09-08-2021, 10:26 PM
Farmer's OPS is nearing sub-.700 again...UGH

He's 29-125 (.232) in the past 5-6 weeks. It's sort of close to his averages on the year. Next year they need to give Barrero the position, or sign a SS.

coryfly
09-08-2021, 10:26 PM
I was going to say I would probably walk Wisdom. GUess not.

TheBigLebowski
09-08-2021, 10:26 PM
I’d walk him and set up the DP

Ironman92
09-08-2021, 10:27 PM
Why did we remove Givens?

Doesn’t matter ….offense lost this one

Roy Tucker
09-08-2021, 10:27 PM
Brach isn’t a miss-bats kind of pitcher.

OldFashionedRed
09-08-2021, 10:27 PM
The Reds offense did this to themselves.

George Foster
09-08-2021, 10:27 PM
Gas on a fire

BluegrassRedleg
09-08-2021, 10:27 PM
&#*&@!^@!*^T#*&@#&^(@#(&*

TheBigLebowski
09-08-2021, 10:27 PM
And on cue, Brach barfs his special kind of suck pitch hanging over the plate.

Kc61
09-08-2021, 10:27 PM
He's 29-125 (.232) in the past 5-6 weeks. It's sort of close to his averages on the year. Next year they need to give Barrero the position, or sign a SS.

Glad somebody mentioned that Barrero should play shortstop. I hadn’t read that before on RedsZone.

Bob Sheed
09-08-2021, 10:27 PM
Brad Barf, barfing it all up again, as usual.

George Foster
09-08-2021, 10:27 PM
Why did we remove Givens?

Doesn’t matter ….offense lost this one

He pitched last night too

mhs95_06
09-08-2021, 10:27 PM
I agree with Brantley, an IBB is a good 1st batter strategy in a tie game in the bottom half of an extra inning.

Ironman92
09-08-2021, 10:27 PM
This works every time….so it’s exciting

OldFashionedRed
09-08-2021, 10:28 PM
No way out of this one. Would take an absolute miracle.

coryfly
09-08-2021, 10:28 PM
I’d walk him and set up the DP

Think anyone with any sense would.

Roy Tucker
09-08-2021, 10:28 PM
5 man infield is a desperate move. But what the hell, it might work.

TheBigLebowski
09-08-2021, 10:28 PM
Bell coming out with new gloves for the guys. They’re gonna play cricket instead of just walking the bases loaded.

coryfly
09-08-2021, 10:29 PM
Should load the bases here.

OldFashionedRed
09-08-2021, 10:29 PM
He pitched last night too

If 5-inning Gutierrez could have thrown another inning, and at least 90+ pitches, it might be a different story.

RedTeamGo!
09-08-2021, 10:29 PM
Brach here is a fireable offense IMHO

WVRedsFan
09-08-2021, 10:29 PM
Satellite went out-maybe a good thing.

Tom Servo
09-08-2021, 10:29 PM
and there's the roar I hear from Wrigley which tells me the game is over

TexasRedsFan
09-08-2021, 10:29 PM
Why not just walk Heyward and set up the force at home?

phlbilly
09-08-2021, 10:29 PM
What a joke

Tom Servo
09-08-2021, 10:30 PM
oh it was a HR to boot. Terrible.

Playadlc
09-08-2021, 10:30 PM
Why would you not load the bases?